Re: Stus-List LF38 Fuel Tank Replacement

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

Ditto.

And by the way, the tank Matt is talking about, I believe is a spherical Monel 
tank, which can take 3#  and probably more.

A large flat tank like the rest of us have will be destroyed by 7# of pressure. 
 The safety valves on large RIBs are set at 2.5# pressure, and they are 
spherical.

1# of pressure will be plenty to check with soapy water, but from the sounds of 
things, yours is most likely leaking on the bottom, for a number of reasons, 
but mostly that is where the water and bacteria eat through them.

 

Bill Coleman

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Matt Wolford 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 3:57 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: wolf...@erie.net
Subject: Re: Stus-List LF38 Fuel Tank Replacement

 

I just had my 44-year old tank pressure tested to the original manufacturer’s 
specs.  FYI, the industry standard at the time (stamped on the tank) was 3 psi.

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List LF38 Fuel Tank Replacement

 

Thanks for all the options...knowing them is half the battle.  I checked with 
the Yard 

... they suggested removing all fuel and trying a pressure test at no more than 
7psi.  Off to get half a dozen 5 gallon Jerry cans :-(

Spencer Johnson

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Stus-List (no subject)

[Larry via CnC-List]

I am hoping I can post a photo! I have never tried before!
I have a 38-ft MK
From the photo you can clearly see the main track for the Genoa. But I have two 
smaller tracks. 
One on the cabin forward of the handrail and one far back, on a small ledge on 
the side of the companionway. I am new to sailing and boat ownership, 5 years. 
Nobody I know, knows what these tracks are for! Does anyone have a similar 
setup or know what they are for! I suspect the forward maybe for a stay sail or 
storm jib?



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Re: Stus-List (no subject)

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

Welcome Larry,
I don't think the email server can handle pics but you got away with it.

My understanding is the following:
The long Genoa track is for the #1s and #2 if you have those.  155% down to 
120%.  It is the track you will use most of the time and has an adjustable car. 
 The short track inside of this on the cockpit coaming is to sheet those same 
genoas in lighter wind when you want more curve, and sheeting to the longer 
track makes the sail too flat.   The forward track is for smaller headsails 
like a #3, #4, 110% down to storm jib. 

Google "Barberhauler"  and you will see some ways to change the lead without 
undoing the usual sheets.

Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C&C 34R, Pasadena Md

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Re: Stus-List (no subject)

[Shawn Wright via CnC-List]

An interesting post, as I am considering how and where to install the long
tracks I got to upgrade our 35mk2. So the small inner track allows one to
trim the genoa with more curve by bringing it inboard in lighter wind?
Currently, my genoa uses a block on the toerail, and the jib uses the
factory track, which is almost at the cockpit coaming. So by moving the
genoa sheet to the track, I should be able to get more curve? I will have
to try this. I can see the lifelines might be an issue though, as they can
be when running closehauled with the genoa on the toerail.

--
Shawn Wright
shawngwri...@gmail.com
S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto


On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 9:13 AM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Welcome Larry,
> I don't think the email server can handle pics but you got away with it.
>
> My understanding is the following:
> The long Genoa track is for the #1s and #2 if you have those.  155% down
> to 120%.  It is the track you will use most of the time and has an
> adjustable car.  The short track inside of this on the cockpit coaming is
> to sheet those same genoas in lighter wind when you want more curve, and
> sheeting to the longer track makes the sail too flat.   The forward track
> is for smaller headsails like a #3, #4, 110% down to storm jib.
>
> Google "Barberhauler"  and you will see some ways to change the lead
> without undoing the usual sheets.
>
> Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C&C 34R, Pasadena Md
>
> 
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Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 172, Issue 72

[Luke Wolbrink via CnC-List]

My understanding is the the small tracks (my 35-3 only has the rear ones)
are to help you get really tight sheeting angles when trying to point.
Functionally, I've never used them and typically point higher than most of
the competition even with the big #1 genoa. The forward ones as you note
are probably for a #3 or storm sail to sheet with. You might also be able
to pull off something funky with inhauling from a lead up there but if
you're really just cruising I'm not sure that the effort would worth it.

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> To: 
> Cc:
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> Date: Thu, 21 May 2020 10:31:46 -0400
> Subject: Re: Stus-List LF38 Fuel Tank Replacement
>
> Ditto.
>
> And by the way, the tank Matt is talking about, I believe is a spherical
> Monel tank, which can take 3#  and probably more.
>
> A large flat tank like the rest of us have will be destroyed by 7# of
> pressure.  The safety valves on large RIBs are set at 2.5# pressure, and
> they are spherical.
>
> 1# of pressure will be plenty to check with soapy water, but from the
> sounds of things, yours is most likely leaking on the bottom, for a number
> of reasons, but mostly that is where the water and bacteria eat through
> them.
>
>
>
> Bill Coleman
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Matt
> Wolford via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 20, 2020 3:57 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* wolf...@erie.net
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List LF38 Fuel Tank Replacement
>
>
>
> I just had my 44-year old tank pressure tested to the original
> manufacturer’s specs.  FYI, the industry standard at the time (stamped on
> the tank) was 3 psi.
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *ssjohnson
> via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 20, 2020 3:11 PM
> *To:* CnC-List@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* ssjohnson 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List LF38 Fuel Tank Replacement
>
>
>
> Thanks for all the options...knowing them is half the battle.  I checked
> with the Yard
>
> ... they suggested removing all fuel and trying a pressure test at no more
> than 7psi.  Off to get half a dozen 5 gallon Jerry cans :-(
>
> Spencer Johnson
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Larry 
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Thu, 21 May 2020 08:21:37 -0700
> Subject: Stus-List (no subject)
> I am hoping I can post a photo! I have never tried before!
> I have a 38-ft MK
> From the photo you can clearly see the main track for the Genoa. But I
> have two smaller tracks.
> One on the cabin forward of the handrail and one far back, on a small
> ledge on the side of the companionway. I am new to sailing and boat
> ownership, 5 years. Nobody I know, knows what these tracks are for! Does
> anyone have a similar setup or know what they are for! I suspect the
> forward maybe for a stay sail or storm jib?
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Gel coat

[Shawn Wright via CnC-List]

Not strictly related to exterior gelcoat (all mine has been painted), but I
have been amazed at the colour variations of the gelcoat on the interior
liners. Here are a few examples. One shows the area behind the portlight
trim pieces in the salon, and the other shows beneath two different head
labels that I just peeled off. The lower label was for a Raritan head,
which I assume was original given the lighter gelcoat, and the upper was
for a different brand (forget which), and now, there's a third label for
the current Jabsco head on the lower teak cabinet (ugh... I'm afraid to
remove that one!)

https://photos.app.goo.gl/6L4bvNjLJE9WyBSR9

--
Shawn Wright
shawngwri...@gmail.com
S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto


On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 9:06 AM Jeremy Dinsel via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> There’s a video on the YouTube channel “Boat Works Today” where Andy shows
> how to match gel coat color using a matrix of colors blended together. It’s
> rather complex but he does a great job of explaining the steps.
>
> I think this is the video. If not or if you’re interest, check out the
> rest of the videos in the eight part series. https://youtu.be/MxzCZ-5lMxY
>
> -j
>
> On May 19, 2020, at 06:46, Gerald Fennessey 
> wrote:
>
> 
> I did and its not even close match.
> They sent me the color I requested but it was a qt. of base white not tint
> was added. Then they replaced that with a gal of purple and replaced
> that with another gal of white.
> This has not been  fun.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dennis C. via CnC-List 
> To: CnClist 
> Cc: Dennis C. 
> Sent: Mon, May 18, 2020 7:30 pm
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Gel coat
>
> It will be a different color due to fading.
>
> Rent or buy one or both of the gelcoat color books here:
>
> https://www.fibreglast.com/category/colorgelcoat
>
> Match the swatches by holding them at different spots on the boat during
> different light conditions.  Order the best match.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
> On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 1:42 PM Gerald Fennessey via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I have a 1985 C&C 35 mk3 does anyone know  what color the deck gelcoat
> is?  Its off white but having
> hard time matching.
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> Gerry Fennessey
> Fianna
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Re: Stus-List Gel coat

[Nate Flesness via CnC-List]

Supposedly many 1980's C&C's (like my 1908 30-1) had a little yellow and a
little brown added to the white.
That's from listers years ago, I've not tried it.
YRMV

Nate

On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 1:42 PM Gerald Fennessey via CnC-List <
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> I have a 1985 C&C 35 mk3 does anyone know  what color the deck gelcoat
> is?  Its off white but having
> hard time matching.
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> Gerry Fennessey
> Fianna
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Stus-List Butyl tape

[cscheaffer via CnC-List]

I'm rebedding deck hardware and bought Butyl Tape but I'm not convinced this is 
best for me.  Butyl has a cult following but it was not chosen by C&C during 
the build except for the hull deck joint.  I like 3M 4200 and 4000uv.  Anybody 
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Re: Stus-List Butyl tape

[Jeremy Dinsel via CnC-List]

Yes? I’ve used it on all of the deck bolts along the toe rail. Any single one 
that leaks gets a little wrap of butyl tape and then tightened back into place 
(I don’t turn the screw, just tighten the nut). It seems to squeeze into the 
space very well. This has held up for a season or two. Will it hold longer? I 
suppose only time will tell. (It does clean up well and easily.)

I do use 3M 4200 on other projects including winch bolts. Given that they’re 
very similar to a toe rail bolt, I do find myself wondering why. 

-j

> On May 21, 2020, at 20:45, cscheaffer  wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm rebedding deck hardware and bought Butyl Tape but I'm not convinced this 
> is best for me.  Butyl has a cult following but it was not chosen by C&C 
> during the build except for the hull deck joint.  I like 3M 4200 and 4000uv.  
> Anybody have opinions on Butyl being better?
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List Butyl tape

[Russ & Melody via CnC-List]

If I may paraphrase expert COVID advice:
Always use butyl tape/caulk where appropriate, if not then use 3M 
4200. In all other cases 4000 UV or 5200 is best.


I trust this will serve you best.

Humble servant regards, Russ



At 08:45 PM 5/21/2020, you wrote:
I'm rebedding deck hardware and bought Butyl Tape but I'm not 
convinced this is best for me.  Butyl has a cult following but it 
was not chosen by C&C during the build except for the hull deck 
joint.  I like 3M 4200 and 4000uv.  Anybody have opinions on Butyl 
being better?





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