Re: Stus-List Backstay adjuster- is there too much of a good thing?

[Jeffrey Nelson via CnC-List]

If the mast is on the deck it's too much.  :-)

If you have block and tackle on your split backstay, I'd be surprised if 
1 human could pull it beyond the limits.
If you have a hydraulic backstay, there's like a pressure guage which 
would give you a number.


Here's a link to discussion on Sailing Anarchy
http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?/topic/143630-how-much-backstay-is-too-much/

Cheers,
   Jeff Nelson
   Muir Caileag
   C&C 30
   Armdale Y.C.

On 5/10/2020 10:55 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List wrote:
I have a split backstay with a car that pulls the two arms together to 
tighten the forestay.  I am in the process of fine tuning the rig and 
as the last step will adjust the turnbuckles on the backstays to set a 
neutral (backstay off) position.  My question is, do I have to worry 
about the possibility of setting it up so that I can apply too much 
tension through the backstay?  In other words, is it possible to do 
damage to the rig by applying too much backstay?  If so, how would I 
know what is too much?  Thanks- Dave


S/V Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT



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Re: Stus-List Drywall sander

[Jeffrey Nelson via CnC-List]

Did a search on Youtube and found a few pages worth:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=drywall+sanding+machine

Including some reviews...
https://youtu.be/4dKlP-3lKuM

https://youtu.be/5iUrcWlG7VM

Cheers,
   Jeff Nelson
   Muir Caileag
   C&C 30
   Armdale Y.C.

On 5/10/2020 4:37 PM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List wrote:


Digging a little more, I see there is a Full Circle pad,

https://www.amazon.com/Full-Circle-International-R360-Interchangeable/dp/B000WQL5CO?th=1

that is not supposed to flip.  Also offered as a flex air tool, with a 
hose to suck the dust, but then I am up to $140.


I can’t believe that I can’t find even one YouTube Video with someone 
using one of these power drywall sanders –


And now to buy one, delivery isn’t until June.

Bill Coleman

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*Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List

*Sent:* Tuesday, May 05, 2020 8:50 AM
*To:* 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com'
*Cc:* Hoyt, Mike
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Drywall sander

Bill

That looks nice but is a LOT more expensive than the other option you 
were using.  I also use the drywall sander on a stick and once it is 
against the surface it does not flip over any longer.  Is great for a 
light wet sand after applying new coat of bottom paint.


Mike Hoyt

Persistence

1987 Frers 33 #16

Halifax, NS

www.hoytsailing.com

*From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Bill 
Coleman via CnC-List

*Sent:* May 4, 2020 10:29 PM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Cc:* Bill Coleman 
*Subject:* Stus-List Drywall sander

I was sanding the bottom this weekend with a drywall sander pad on a 
stick. And it was sure a lot easier than holding a sander over my 
head. And that crocus cloth material for sanding really holds up well 
and doesn't gum up. But the pad kept flipping over and was annoying at 
times . And I was wondering if there was a more professional pad, so I 
googled, and found rotary Sanders with vacuum. Does anyone know anyone 
using something like this?


https://www.all-wall.com/Categories/Porter-Cable-Sander-Pro-Packs/Porter-Cable-Drywall-Sander.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjw-r71BRDuARIsAB7i_QOr7GremTf5Gg_bJREva54MMWijKE2TqJHv47VHFN1WRojtsSKUR78aAnq2EALw_wcB

Bill Coleman


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Re: Stus-List Drywall sander

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

Thanks Jeff,

 

I did see those videos and reviews, it’s just that I just couldn’t find anyone 
using a 7800 long sander on a boat bottom. 

Like someone else said, there is a significant difference between sanding 
drywall and bottom paint, and I was just curious if someone had scratched the 
surface in the boat field, no pun intended. 

 

Bill Coleman.

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey 
Nelson via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 8:05 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Jeffrey Nelson
Subject: Re: Stus-List Drywall sander

 

Did a search on Youtube and found a few pages worth:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=drywall+sanding+machine

Including some reviews...
https://youtu.be/4dKlP-3lKuM

https://youtu.be/5iUrcWlG7VM



Cheers,
   Jeff Nelson
   Muir Caileag
   C&C 30
   Armdale Y.C.

On 5/10/2020 4:37 PM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List wrote:

Digging a little more, I see there is a Full Circle pad, 

https://www.amazon.com/Full-Circle-International-R360-Interchangeable/dp/B000WQL5CO?th=1

that is not supposed to flip.  Also offered as a flex air tool, with a hose to 
suck the dust, but then I am up to $140. 

I can’t believe that I can’t find even one YouTube Video with someone using one 
of these power drywall sanders – 

And now to buy one, delivery isn’t until June.  

 

Bill Coleman

 

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via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 8:50 AM
To: 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com'
Cc: Hoyt, Mike
Subject: Re: Stus-List Drywall sander

 

Bill

 

That looks nice but is a LOT more expensive than the other option you were 
using.  I also use the drywall sander on a stick and once it is against the 
surface it does not flip over any longer.  Is great for a light wet sand after 
applying new coat of bottom paint.

 

Mike Hoyt

Persistence

1987 Frers 33 #16

Halifax, NS

www.hoytsailing.com

 

From: CnC-List   
 On Behalf Of Bill Coleman via CnC-List
Sent: May 4, 2020 10:29 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bill Coleman   
Subject: Stus-List Drywall sander

 

I was sanding the bottom this weekend with a drywall sander pad on a stick. And 
it was sure a lot easier than holding a sander over my head. And that crocus 
cloth material for sanding really holds up well and doesn't gum up. But the pad 
kept flipping over and was annoying at times . And I was wondering if there was 
a more professional pad, so I googled, and found rotary Sanders with vacuum. 
Does anyone know anyone using something like this?

 

https://www.all-wall.com/Categories/Porter-Cable-Sander-Pro-Packs/Porter-Cable-Drywall-Sander.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjw-r71BRDuARIsAB7i_QOr7GremTf5Gg_bJREva54MMWijKE2TqJHv47VHFN1WRojtsSKUR78aAnq2EALw_wcB

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Re: Stus-List Drywall sander

[Jeffrey Nelson via CnC-List]

Ah, Sorry mis-understood.  Well, if I get one to finish the drywall on 
my cottage, I'll take it down to the boat and make you
a video.   I've used drywall sanding screen on my boat bottom with a 
pole sander (manual) for a few years.  Found it way

better than just regular sandpaper to get the bulk off.

Cheers,
   Jeff Nelson
   Muir Caileag
   C&C 30
   Armdale Y.C.

On 5/11/2020 9:46 AM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List wrote:


Thanks Jeff,

I did see those videos and reviews, it’s just that I just couldn’t 
find anyone using a 7800 long sander on a boat bottom.


Like someone else said, there is a significant difference between 
sanding drywall and bottom paint, and I was just curious if someone 
had scratched the surface in the boat field, no pun intended.


Bill Coleman.






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Stus-List Spilled Epoxy

[Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List]

I need help. I spilled epoxy resin on my brand new upholstery, and it went
unnoticed for several days, so it has soaked into the new foam also. The
area is about 6 sq inches. My question is what do I use to remove the resin
with out damaging the foam?
I am not to worried about the fabric as I sewed it myself and have plenty
left over.
Thanks in advance
Doug

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sv Rebecca Leah
C&C LandFall 39
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Stus-List Spilled Epoxy

[Robert Abbott via CnC-List]

Douglas:

I have no first hand advice but from what you have stated, epoxy dried 
on upholstery for several days..I think you have two options...live with 
it or get new foam and upholstery.   I don't know of another solution.


Maybe greater minds than me can chime in.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - #277
Halifax, N.S.




On 5/11/2020 8:41 PM, Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List wrote:
I need help. I spilled epoxy resin on my brand new upholstery, and it 
went unnoticed for several days, so it has soaked into the new foam 
also. The area is about 6 sq inches. My question is what do I use to 
remove the resin with out damaging the foam?
I am not to worried about the fabric as I sewed it myself and have 
plenty left over.

Thanks in advance
Doug

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253-208-1412
Port Orchard YC, WA
sv Rebecca Leah
C&C LandFall 39

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Re: Stus-List Spilled Epoxy

[Graham Collins via CnC-List]

I'd guess you are out of luck, but were I you I'd ask whomever made the 
resin the question.  Any cleanup instructions on the can?


Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C&C 35-III #11

On 2020-05-11 8:41 p.m., Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List wrote:
I need help. I spilled epoxy resin on my brand new upholstery, and it 
went unnoticed for several days, so it has soaked into the new foam 
also. The area is about 6 sq inches. My question is what do I use to 
remove the resin with out damaging the foam?
I am not to worried about the fabric as I sewed it myself and have 
plenty left over.

Thanks in advance
Doug

--
Douglas Mountjoy
253-208-1412
Port Orchard YC, WA
sv Rebecca Leah
C&C LandFall 39

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Re: Stus-List Spilled Epoxy

[Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List]

Thanks Graham, Didn't think of that. Doug Mountjoysv Rebecca Leah C&C Landfall 
39Port Orchard yacht club
 Original message From: Graham Collins via CnC-List 
 Date: 5/11/20  17:23  (GMT-08:00) To: Doug Mountjoy via 
CnC-List  Cc: Graham Collins 
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Spilled Epoxy 
I'd guess you are out of luck, but were I you I'd ask whomever
  made the resin the question.  Any cleanup instructions on the can?

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C&C 35-III #11
On 2020-05-11 8:41 p.m., Doug Mountjoy
  via CnC-List wrote:


  
  
I need help. I spilled epoxy resin on my brand new
  upholstery, and it went unnoticed for several days, so it has
  soaked into the new foam also. The area is about 6 sq inches.
  My question is what do I use to remove the resin with out
  damaging the foam?
 I am not to worried about the fabric as I sewed it myself
  and have plenty left over. 

Thanks in advance
Doug


  -- 
  

  

  

  

  Douglas Mountjoy
253-208-1412
  
  Port Orchard YC, WA

sv Rebecca Leah
  
  C&C LandFall 39

  

  

  

  
  
  
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Re: Stus-List Spilled Epoxy

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Denatured alcohol will breakdown epoxy resin. But it may take a lot if soaking 
and blotting. 
Good luck. 
Chuck B
C&C41
Tenacious 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2020, at 8:28 PM, Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks Graham, 
> Didn't think of that. 
> 
> 
> 
> Doug Mountjoy
> sv Rebecca Leah 
> C&C Landfall 39
> Port Orchard yacht club
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Graham Collins via CnC-List 
> Date: 5/11/20 17:23 (GMT-08:00)
> To: Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List 
> Cc: Graham Collins 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Spilled Epoxy
> 
> I'd guess you are out of luck, but were I you I'd ask whomever made the resin 
> the question.  Any cleanup instructions on the can?
> 
> Graham Collins
> Secret Plans
> C&C 35-III #11
> On 2020-05-11 8:41 p.m., Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List wrote:
>> I need help. I spilled epoxy resin on my brand new upholstery, and it went 
>> unnoticed for several days, so it has soaked into the new foam also. The 
>> area is about 6 sq inches. My question is what do I use to remove the resin 
>> with out damaging the foam?
>> I am not to worried about the fabric as I sewed it myself and have plenty 
>> left over. 
>> Thanks in advance
>> Doug
>> 
>> -- 
>> Douglas Mountjoy
>> 253-208-1412
>> Port Orchard YC, WA
>> sv Rebecca Leah
>> C&C LandFall 39
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Spilled Epoxy

[James Hesketh via CnC-List]

Might just be easiest to wrap that section of foam in a large plastic
garbage bag and put it back into the cover that way.

Jim Hesketh
C&C 26 Whisper
Miami, Fl
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Re: Stus-List Spilled Epoxy

[Russ & Melody via CnC-List]

Hi Doug,

I routinely clean the epoxy tools with acetone. But I don't believe 
your foam will stand up to it, maybe a little test patch. The fabric 
might be okay.


If the foam cushion is symmetrical then how about removing it from 
the fabric cover and "spilling" a bit o' hardener on the area, then 
rotate installation so that part of the foam is on the bottom. If we 
were talking about a Microsoft product you would sell it as an 
anti-wear "feature".


Cheers, Russ
ex-Sweet, 35 mk-1



At 04:41 PM 5/11/2020, you wrote:
I need help. I spilled epoxy resin on my brand new upholstery, and 
it went unnoticed for several days, so it has soaked into the new 
foam also. The area is about 6 sq inches. My question is what do I 
use to remove the resin with out damaging the foam?
I am not to worried about the fabric as I sewed it myself and have 
plenty left over.

Thanks in advance
Doug

--
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253-208-1412
Port Orchard YC, WA
sv Rebecca Leah
C&C LandFall 39



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Re: Stus-List Spilled Epoxy

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

If you're talking about epoxy resin that hasn't been mixed with hardener,
white vinegar works as a solvent.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 6:54 PM Russ & Melody via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi Doug,
>
> I routinely clean the epoxy tools with acetone. But I don't believe
> your foam will stand up to it, maybe a little test patch. The fabric
> might be okay.
>
> If the foam cushion is symmetrical then how about removing it from
> the fabric cover and "spilling" a bit o' hardener on the area, then
> rotate installation so that part of the foam is on the bottom. If we
> were talking about a Microsoft product you would sell it as an
> anti-wear "feature".
>
>  Cheers, Russ
>  ex-Sweet, 35 mk-1
>
>
>
> At 04:41 PM 5/11/2020, you wrote:
> >I need help. I spilled epoxy resin on my brand new upholstery, and
> >it went unnoticed for several days, so it has soaked into the new
> >foam also. The area is about 6 sq inches. My question is what do I
> >use to remove the resin with out damaging the foam?
> >I am not to worried about the fabric as I sewed it myself and have
> >plenty left over.
> >Thanks in advance
> >Doug
> >
> >--
> >Douglas Mountjoy
> >253-208-1412
> >Port Orchard YC, WA
> >sv Rebecca Leah
> >C&C LandFall 39
>
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Re: Stus-List Spilled Epoxy

[MAURICE POULIN via CnC-List]

If removal of epoxy fails, you could do what is called a dutchman in 
woodworking but using foam. You basically cut out the affected foam and replace 
it with a piece of new foam material. 3m fabric spray adhesive works really 
well on foam. Best of luck

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> Le 11 mai 2020 à 22:57, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List  a 
> écrit :
> 
> If you're talking about epoxy resin that hasn't been mixed with hardener, 
> white vinegar works as a solvent.
> 
> Alan Bergen
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
> Rose City YC
> Portland, OR
> 
>> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 6:54 PM Russ & Melody via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Hi Doug,
>> 
>> I routinely clean the epoxy tools with acetone. But I don't believe 
>> your foam will stand up to it, maybe a little test patch. The fabric 
>> might be okay.
>> 
>> If the foam cushion is symmetrical then how about removing it from 
>> the fabric cover and "spilling" a bit o' hardener on the area, then 
>> rotate installation so that part of the foam is on the bottom. If we 
>> were talking about a Microsoft product you would sell it as an 
>> anti-wear "feature".
>> 
>>  Cheers, Russ
>>  ex-Sweet, 35 mk-1
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> At 04:41 PM 5/11/2020, you wrote:
>> >I need help. I spilled epoxy resin on my brand new upholstery, and 
>> >it went unnoticed for several days, so it has soaked into the new 
>> >foam also. The area is about 6 sq inches. My question is what do I 
>> >use to remove the resin with out damaging the foam?
>> >I am not to worried about the fabric as I sewed it myself and have 
>> >plenty left over.
>> >Thanks in advance
>> >Doug
>> >
>> >--
>> >Douglas Mountjoy
>> >253-208-1412
>> >Port Orchard YC, WA
>> >sv Rebecca Leah
>> >C&C LandFall 39
>> 
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