Stus-List engine oil filters and Car talk

[Paul E via CnC-List]

Hi,

Some time ago I went from faithfully using Yanmar engine oil filters to the 
equivalent Fram filters.  The main reason was convince, these were available in 
stock at a local(Tallahassee) auto parts store and at the local Tractor Supply 
store.  Well, now these filters are now no longer locally in stock.  They are 
still available, but need to be special ordered. 

 I started looking at common online sources, and found some reasonably prices, 
but it only made sense to order in quantities to defray shipping costs.  And 
while filters were available on Amazon Prime (i.e. free 2nd day shipping), the 
prime price was always inflated.   I was listening to a NPR rerun of Car Talk 
(or “Ka Tark” as I learned growing up south of Boston ) when I was searching 
for filters.  I’m not  sure which, either Click or Clack mentioned their 
“buddies at RockAuto.com ” as a source for auto parts.   
So I checked them out. They sell filters by the case of 6, and at a great 
price.  A case of six Premium Guard(Fram equivs) for the Yanmar 3QM30 was 
$8.10.  That is $1.35 each(i.e., the price your mechanic buys filters).   A 
case delivered was $15.09 ($8.10+$6.99)[shipping for 2 case was $1 more].  So I 
ordered a case. 

I have one of these filters on the engine now, and I plan to replace mid-cycle 
and dissect, not because I’m concerned but curious, and the fact that I have a 
bunch of filters(you can only keep so many aboard). 


-
Paul E.
1981 C&C Landfall 38 
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

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Re: Stus-List engine oil filters and Car talk

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Fram filters are notoriously low quality. I avoid them like the plague. Even 
with my minimal budget I still go for the highest quality filters for my engine.
Andy

Andrew Burton
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Middletown, RI 
USA02842

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> On Nov 3, 2018, at 11:27, Paul E via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Some time ago I went from faithfully using Yanmar engine oil filters to the 
> equivalent Fram filters.  The main reason was convince, these were available 
> in stock at a local(Tallahassee) auto parts store and at the local Tractor 
> Supply store.  Well, now these filters are now no longer locally in stock.  
> They are still available, but need to be special ordered. 
> 
>  I started looking at common online sources, and found some reasonably 
> prices, but it only made sense to order in quantities to defray shipping 
> costs.  And while filters were available on Amazon Prime (i.e. free 2nd day 
> shipping), the prime price was always inflated.   I was listening to a NPR 
> rerun of Car Talk (or “Ka Tark” as I learned growing up south of Boston ) 
> when I was searching for filters.  I’m not  sure which, either Click or Clack 
> mentioned their “buddies at RockAuto.com” as a source for auto parts.   So I 
> checked them out. They sell filters by the case of 6, and at a great price.  
> A case of six Premium Guard(Fram equivs) for the Yanmar 3QM30 was $8.10.  
> That is $1.35 each(i.e., the price your mechanic buys filters).   A case 
> delivered was $15.09 ($8.10+$6.99)[shipping for 2 case was $1 more].  So I 
> ordered a case. 
> 
> I have one of these filters on the engine now, and I plan to replace 
> mid-cycle and dissect, not because I’m concerned but curious, and the fact 
> that I have a bunch of filters(you can only keep so many aboard). 
> 
> 
> -
> Paul E.
> 1981 C&C Landfall 38 
> S/V Johanna Rose
> Fort Walton Beach, FL
> 
> http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/
> 
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Re: Stus-List engine oil filters and Car talk

[Morgan Ellis via CnC-List]

I agree with Andrew on this one. In the past I was have issues with race
engine and was changing filters often and cutting them open to try to
identify where the wear was coming from. In doing this we cut open several
different makes of filter. Fran were the absolute worst! Since then I only
buy Donaldson filters, as they were head and shoulders above all others in
terms of construction and quality inside.

Morgan Ellis
SV Meandher
30MkII
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Stus-List cleaning off rust

[Bev Parslow via CnC-List]

The nuts and bolts between the transmission and the shaft are quite rusty. How 
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Re: Stus-List cleaning off rust

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Any reason to not just replacing them?

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD



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> The nuts and bolts between the transmission and the shaft are quite rusty.
> How can I get the rust off?
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Re: Stus-List engine oil filters and Car talk

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I retired from the company that owned Fram. I wouldn’t buy them. 

Dennis C.

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> On Nov 3, 2018, at 11:59 AM, Morgan Ellis via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I agree with Andrew on this one. In the past I was have issues with race 
> engine and was changing filters often and cutting them open to try to 
> identify where the wear was coming from. In doing this we cut open several 
> different makes of filter. Fran were the absolute worst! Since then I only 
> buy Donaldson filters, as they were head and shoulders above all others in 
> terms of construction and quality inside.
> 
> Morgan Ellis
> SV Meandher 
> 30MkII
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Re: Stus-List cleaning off rust

[John Irvin via CnC-List]

Soak them in rust remover.

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The nuts and bolts between the transmission and the shaft are quite rusty. How 
can I get the rust off?
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Re: Stus-List engine oil filters and Car talk

[Bill Dakin via CnC-List]

Nothing but Wix for my diesel.

Bill Dakin

> On Nov 3, 2018, at 10:27 AM, Paul E via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Some time ago I went from faithfully using Yanmar engine oil filters to the 
> equivalent Fram filters.  The main 

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Re: Stus-List cleaning off rust

[svrebeccaleah via CnC-List]

New bolts. If their that rusty replace them. Cheap insurance. 


Doug Mountjoy Sv Rebecca Leah LH39Port Orchard YC wa.
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 Date: 11/3/18  09:20  (GMT-08:00) To: 
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cleaning off rust 
The nuts and bolts between the transmission and the shaft are quite rusty. How 
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Re: Stus-List engine oil filters and Car talk

[svrebeccaleah via CnC-List]

I second the vote for WIX available at your local NAPA store. 


Doug Mountjoy Sv Rebecca Leah LH39Port Orchard YC wa.
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Re: Stus-List cleaning off rust

[Bruno Lachance via CnC-List]

Get good quality graded hardware. Some people here might know for which one you 
should go.

Maybe check buckalgonquin website.

Bruno Lachance
Bécassine, 33mkII
New Richmond, Qc, Canada

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Le 3 nov. 2018 à 13:19, svrebeccaleah via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> a écrit :

New bolts. If their that rusty replace them. Cheap insurance.



Doug Mountjoy
Sv Rebecca Leah
LH39
Port Orchard YC wa.

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Subject: Stus-List cleaning off rust

The nuts and bolts between the transmission and the shaft are quite rusty. How 
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Re: Stus-List engine oil filters and Car talk

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

I've cut apart quite a few different filters from various manufacturers.
Most of the high end filters are just slightly different from one another.
Consistently favorable qualities are:
High density synthetic filter media
Silicone gaskets and anti-drain back
Metal media cap
Coil spring for bypass device
Thicker can and base plate.

Some of these features are hard to identify without an autopsy.  But you
know it when you see it.

Cheap filters tend to have
Low density paper media and glued on paper end caps
Leaf spring bypass
Rubber components
Thin can materials

I have had good luck with Amsoil, and Purolator Pur1 filters.  There are
lots of other good ones and lots of bad, but Fram does stand out as being
on the bad side.  You have 6 opportunities to do a dissection Paul, let us
know what you find.

Manufacturers that provide their own specifications make shopping easier.
I like to find thread and gasket dimensions and then search for the largest
possible filter that will still fit the allowed space.  I also compare
filter media dimensions.

Wix, Donaldson, Amsoil all have online references which help you to cross
reference and find the best solution.

Filter comparison article:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GWN2wLUqfJ8QbUdxd1z8Jo2L24V2RVQIXLxN0ASuiXxe7ydOlpi8QCpiliBaQa2u449_fyFXE2LXfU8U/view?usp=drivesdk

Yanmar filter for QH, HM, GM, YM series engines including Yanmar
cross-references and dimensions.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WY-pDhUDtrCXF_4p2grjp_wBiNDq3y6YDQvZ-UGLZHlReYRL1b6BFY-q_-OC2Wyl0GSm_adnVOQl-x7J/view?usp=drivesdk

The Fleetguard  FL3812 cross references to a Amsoil EA15K20.
https://www.amsoil.com/AmsoilLookups/MasterFilterCrossRef.aspx

https://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/filters-and-by-pass-systems/oil/amsoil-ea-oil-filters/?Code=EA15K20

 Looking at the spec chart you could probably gain a little volume/filter
media square inches by moving to a EA15K13
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yk6IzUYWWzaPy2DDNRx5Ak5wyM0PB5TL/view?usp=drivesdk

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Sat, Nov 3, 2018, 11:59 AM Morgan Ellis via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

> I agree with Andrew on this one. In the past I was have issues with race
> engine and was changing filters often and cutting them open to try to
> identify where the wear was coming from. In doing this we cut open several
> different makes of filter. Fran were the absolute worst! Since then I only
> buy Donaldson filters, as they were head and shoulders above all others in
> terms of construction and quality inside.
>
> Morgan Ellis
> SV Meandher
> 30MkII
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Re: Stus-List engine oil filters and Car talk

[Wade Glew via CnC-List]

Will Napa be able to tell me which Wix filter will fit my 2GMF Yanmar?
Wade
Oh Boy C&C 33 MKII

On Sat, Nov 3, 2018, 12:20 svrebeccaleah via CnC-List  I second the vote for WIX available at your local NAPA store.
>
>
>
> Doug Mountjoy
> Sv Rebecca Leah
> LH39
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Re: Stus-List engine oil filters and Car talk

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Probably.  Or you can just look it up ahead of time.

http://www.wixfilters.com/Lookup/Applications.aspx?Section=8
Off road, Yanmar, marine engine, model

Takes you here #51358:
http://www.wixfilters.com/Lookup/PartDetails.aspx?Part=36412

Or this one which is slightly bigger volume but same gasket and thread
size. #51344
http://www.wixfilters.com/Lookup/PartDetails.aspx?Part=33685

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD


On Sat, Nov 3, 2018, 1:27 PM Wade Glew via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Will Napa be able to tell me which Wix filter will fit my 2GMF Yanmar?
> Wade
> Oh Boy C&C 33 MKII
>
> On Sat, Nov 3, 2018, 12:20 svrebeccaleah via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
>
>> I second the vote for WIX available at your local NAPA store.
>>
>>
>>
>> Doug Mountjoy
>> Sv Rebecca Leah
>> LH39
>> Port Orchard YC wa.
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Re: Stus-List engine oil filters and Car talk

[Sam Salter via CnC-List]

Yanmar 2GM20F:

Lub oil: Wix 51334 (NAPA 51334) / Fram PH3593A / Purolator L14459
Primary fuel strainer: Wix 33166 / Baldwin BF825

sam
C$C 26  Liquorice 
Ghost Lake  Alberta 

On Nov 3, 2018, at 11:26 AM, Wade Glew via CnC-List  
wrote:

Will Napa be able to tell me which Wix filter will fit my 2GMF Yanmar?
Wade
Oh Boy C&C 33 MKII 

> On Sat, Nov 3, 2018, 12:20 svrebeccaleah via CnC-List  wrote:
> I second the vote for WIX available at your local NAPA store. 
> 
> 
> 
> Doug Mountjoy 
> Sv Rebecca Leah 
> LH39
> Port Orchard YC wa.
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Re: Stus-List engine oil filters and Car talk

[Russ & Melody via CnC-List]

Thanks Josh. Nice set o' links (filed for future reference).

Whenever I buy oil filters I ask the parts 
counter guy, "What have you got that isn't Fram"


I like Mann and Baldwin as good replacements. 
Amsoil isn't common in Western Canada.


Interestingly, you do not get cleaner oil by 
changing a filter frequently. The old one works 
really well right up until it the media gets saturated. :)


Cheers, Russ
ex-Sweet 35 mk-1

At 10:25 AM 11/3/2018, you wrote:
I've cut apart quite a few different filters 
from various manufacturers.  Most of the high 
end filters are just slightly different from one 
another.  Consistently favorable qualities are:

High density synthetic filter media
Silicone gaskets and anti-drain back
Metal media cap
Coil spring for bypass device
Thicker can and base plate.

Some of these features are hard to identify 
without an autopsy.  But you know it when you see it.


Cheap filters tend to have
Low density paper media and glued on paper end caps
Leaf spring bypass
Rubber components
Thin can materials

I have had good luck with Amsoil, and Purolator 
Pur1 filters.  There are lots of other good 
ones and lots of bad, but Fram does stand out as 
being on the bad side.  You have 6 
opportunities to do a dissection Paul, let us know what you find.


Manufacturers that provide their own 
specifications make shopping easier.  I like to 
find thread and gasket dimensions and then 
search for the largest possible filter that will 
still fit the allowed space.  I also compare filter media dimensions.


Wix, Donaldson, Amsoil all have online 
references which help you to cross reference and find the best solution.


Filter comparison article:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GWN2wLUqfJ8QbUdxd1z8Jo2L24V2RVQIXLxN0ASuiXxe7ydOlpi8QCpiliBaQa2u449_fyFXE2LXfU8U/view?usp=drivesdk

Yanmar filter for QH, HM, GM, YM series engines 
including Yanmar cross-references and dimensions.Â

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WY-pDhUDtrCXF_4p2grjp_wBiNDq3y6YDQvZ-UGLZHlReYRL1b6BFY-q_-OC2Wyl0GSm_adnVOQl-x7J/view?usp=drivesdk

The Fleetguard  FL3812 cross references to a Amsoil EA15K20.
https://www.amsoil.com/AmsoilLookups/MasterFilterCrossRef.aspx

https://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/filters-and-by-pass-systems/oil/amsoil-ea-oil-filters/?Code=EA15K20

 Looking at the spec chart you could probably 
gain a little volume/filter media square inches by moving to a EA15K13

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yk6IzUYWWzaPy2DDNRx5Ak5wyM0PB5TL/view?usp=drivesdk

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Sat, Nov 3, 2018, 11:59 AM Morgan Ellis via 
CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
I agree with Andrew on this one. In the past I 
was have issues with race engine and was 
changing filters often and cutting them open to 
try to identify where the wear was coming from. 
In doing this we cut open several different 
makes of filter. Fran were the absolute worst! 
Since then I only buy Donaldson filters, as they 
were head and shoulders above all others in 
terms of construction and quality inside.


Morgan Ellis
SV MeandherÂ
30MkII
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Stus-List Shrink-Wrapping Painted Boats

[Randy Stafford via CnC-List]

Listers-

Have you heard anything to the effect that painted boats shouldn’t be 
shrink-wrapped because that might cause blistering?  I’d like to shrink-wrap 
Grenadine this winter, but obviously wouldn’t want to damage her paint job.

Thanks,
Randy Stafford
S/V Grenadine
C&C 30-1 #7
Ken Caryl, CO
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Stus-List Plans for Boat Tents

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Hi Listers,

I remember seeing discussion / photos of temporary tents people had built over 
their boats for winter - some kind of frame structure over the whole boat and 
stands/trailer, covered by tarps or plastic, with enough headroom and room on 
the sides to do projects on the boat under the tent.

Does someone on the list have plans / pictures / descriptions of such things?

Thanks,
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thank you for this Josh
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On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 12:51 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Probably.  Or you can just look it up ahead of time.
>
> http://www.wixfilters.com/Lookup/Applications.aspx?Section=8
> Off road, Yanmar, marine engine, model
>
> Takes you here #51358:
> http://www.wixfilters.com/Lookup/PartDetails.aspx?Part=36412
>
> Or this one which is slightly bigger volume but same gasket and thread
> size. #51344
> http://www.wixfilters.com/Lookup/PartDetails.aspx?Part=33685
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 3, 2018, 1:27 PM Wade Glew via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
>> Will Napa be able to tell me which Wix filter will fit my 2GMF Yanmar?
>> Wade
>> Oh Boy C&C 33 MKII
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 3, 2018, 12:20 svrebeccaleah via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
>>
>>> I second the vote for WIX available at your local NAPA store.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Doug Mountjoy
>>> Sv Rebecca Leah
>>> LH39
>>> Port Orchard YC wa.
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On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 12:55 PM Sam Salter via CnC-List <
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> Yanmar 2GM20F:
>
> Lub oil: Wix 51334 (NAPA 51334) / Fram PH3593A / Purolator L14459
> Primary fuel strainer: Wix 33166 / Baldwin BF825
>
> sam
> C$C 26  Liquorice
> Ghost Lake  Alberta
>
> On Nov 3, 2018, at 11:26 AM, Wade Glew via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> Will Napa be able to tell me which Wix filter will fit my 2GMF Yanmar?
> Wade
> Oh Boy C&C 33 MKII
>
> On Sat, Nov 3, 2018, 12:20 svrebeccaleah via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
>
>> I second the vote for WIX available at your local NAPA store.
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List Shrink-Wrapping Painted Boats

[Jim Reinardy via CnC-List]

  
  
  

Our boat came with a canvas winter cover that attaches at the toe rail. 
 The previous owner told me that he was concerned about blistering if he had 
extended it to the topsides.
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On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 2:53 PM -0500, "Randy Stafford via CnC-List" 
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Listers-

Have you heard anything to the effect that painted boats shouldn’t be 
shrink-wrapped because that might cause blistering?  I’d like to shrink-wrap 
Grenadine this winter, but obviously wouldn’t want to damage her paint job.

Thanks,
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C&C 30-1 #7
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Re: Stus-List Shrink-Wrapping Painted Boats

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You heard right. Shrink wrap only to the toerail. The paint should be covered 
only with a breathable fabric if anything.
Andy

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> On Nov 3, 2018, at 16:09, Jim Reinardy via CnC-List  
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> 
> Our boat came with a canvas winter cover that attaches at the toe rail.  The 
> previous owner told me that he was concerned about blistering if he had 
> extended it to the topsides.
> 
> Jim Reinardy
> C&C 30-2 “Firewater”
> Milwaukee, WI
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> On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 2:53 PM -0500, "Randy Stafford via CnC-List" 
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>> Listers-
>> 
>> Have you heard anything to the effect that painted boats shouldn’t be 
>> shrink-wrapped because that might cause blistering?  I’d like to shrink-wrap 
>> Grenadine this winter, but obviously wouldn’t want to damage her paint job.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Randy Stafford
>> S/V Grenadine
>> C&C 30-1 #7
>> Ken Caryl, CO
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Re: Stus-List engine oil filters and Car talk

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Yeah Russ,

I forgot about Mann and Baldwin.  IIRC Mann has a real nice cross-reference
website too.  One thing that I have never been able to completely replicate
in an aftermarket filter is the bypass valve pressure of an OEM Yanmar
filter.  ~20 psi!  ~10 psi seems to be the norm.

Josh



On Sat, Nov 3, 2018, 2:36 PM Russ & Melody via CnC-List <
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>
> Thanks Josh. Nice set o' links (filed for future reference).
>
> Whenever I buy oil filters I ask the parts counter guy, "What have you got
> that isn't Fram"
>
> I like Mann and Baldwin as good replacements. Amsoil isn't common in
> Western Canada.
>
> Interestingly, you do not get cleaner oil by changing a filter frequently.
> The old one works really well right up until it the media gets saturated. :)
>
> Cheers, Russ
> ex-* Sweet *35 mk-1
>
> At 10:25 AM 11/3/2018, you wrote:
>
> I've cut apart quite a few different filters from various manufacturers.Â
> Most of the high end filters are just slightly different from one
> another.  Consistently favorable qualities are:
> High density synthetic filter media
> Silicone gaskets and anti-drain back
> Metal media cap
> Coil spring for bypass device
> Thicker can and base plate.
>
> Some of these features are hard to identify without an autopsy.  But you
> know it when you see it.
>
> Cheap filters tend to have
> Low density paper media and glued on paper end caps
> Leaf spring bypass
> Rubber components
> Thin can materials
>
> I have had good luck with Amsoil, and Purolator Pur1 filters.  There are
> lots of other good ones and lots of bad, but Fram does stand out as being
> on the bad side.  You have 6 opportunities to do a dissection Paul, let us
> know what you find.
>
> Manufacturers that provide their own specifications make shopping
> easier.  I like to find thread and gasket dimensions and then search for
> the largest possible filter that will still fit the allowed space.  I also
> compare filter media dimensions.
>
> Wix, Donaldson, Amsoil all have online references which help you to cross
> reference and find the best solution.
>
> Filter comparison article:
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GWN2wLUqfJ8QbUdxd1z8Jo2L24V2RVQIXLxN0ASuiXxe7ydOlpi8QCpiliBaQa2u449_fyFXE2LXfU8U/view?usp=drivesdk
>
> Yanmar filter for QH, HM, GM, YM series engines including Yanmar
> cross-references and dimensions.Â
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WY-pDhUDtrCXF_4p2grjp_wBiNDq3y6YDQvZ-UGLZHlReYRL1b6BFY-q_-OC2Wyl0GSm_adnVOQl-x7J/view?usp=drivesdk
>
> The Fleetguard  FL3812 cross references to a Amsoil EA15K20.
> https://www.amsoil.com/AmsoilLookups/MasterFilterCrossRef.aspx
>
>
> https://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/filters-and-by-pass-systems/oil/amsoil-ea-oil-filters/?Code=EA15K20
>
> Â Looking at the spec chart you could probably gain a little volume/filter
> media square inches by moving to a EA15K13
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yk6IzUYWWzaPy2DDNRx5Ak5wyM0PB5TL/view?usp=drivesdk
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
> On Sat, Nov 3, 2018, 11:59 AM Morgan Ellis via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
> I agree with Andrew on this one. In the past I was have issues with race
> engine and was changing filters often and cutting them open to try to
> identify where the wear was coming from. In doing this we cut open several
> different makes of filter. Fran were the absolute worst! Since then I only
> buy Donaldson filters, as they were head and shoulders above all others in
> terms of construction and quality inside.
>
> Morgan Ellis
> SV MeandherÂ
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Re: Stus-List engine oil filters and Car talk

[Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List]

 Anyone have experience with the NAPA Gold filters?  I've heard from car people 
that they're very good.RonWild CheriC&C 30-1STL

On Saturday, November 3, 2018, 12:20:24 PM CDT, svrebeccaleah via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 I second the vote for WIX available at your local NAPA store. 


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Re: Stus-List engine oil filters and Car talk

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

NAPA will usually tell you who made their filters.  They also often have a
dissected or cross sectional view available at the counter.  My assessment
is that they are a high quality filter though I have no imperical data.

Josh

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> Anyone have experience with the NAPA Gold filters?  I've heard from car
> people that they're very good.
> Ron
> Wild Cheri
> C&C 30-1
> STL
>
>
> On Saturday, November 3, 2018, 12:20:24 PM CDT, svrebeccaleah via CnC-List
>  wrote:
>
>
> I second the vote for WIX available at your local NAPA store.
>
>
>
> Doug Mountjoy
> Sv Rebecca Leah
> LH39
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Re: Stus-List engine oil filters and Car talk

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I’ve used the NAPA Gold filters on my 3QM for years; they seem to work well.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
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> On Nov 3, 2018, at 4:40 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> NAPA will usually tell you who made their filters.  They also often have a 
> dissected or cross sectional view available at the counter.  My assessment is 
> that they are a high quality filter though I have no imperical data. 
> 
> Josh 
> 
> On Sat, Nov 3, 2018, 5:03 PM Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> Anyone have experience with the NAPA Gold filters?  I've heard from car 
> people that they're very good.
> Ron
> Wild Cheri
> C&C 30-1
> STL
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Re: Stus-List engine oil filters and Car talk

[svrebeccaleah via CnC-List]

They can if you have the number of your current filter. I don't remember what 
was installed on my 3qm30. Before I installed the remote filter. Access on the 
LF38 was horrible. 


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 Original message From: Wade Glew via CnC-List 
 Date: 11/3/18  10:26  (GMT-08:00) To: 
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engine oil filters and Car talk 
Will Napa be able to tell me which Wix filter will fit my 2GMF Yanmar?WadeOh 
Boy C&C 33 MKII 
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Stus-List Winch grease

[Chris Graham via CnC-List]

I’m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering if there 
was a preferred machine oil and grease? The Lewmar grease seems expensive and 
I’d have to order it. 
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

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Lubriplate, maybe mixed with a little marvel mystery oil.

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> 
> I’m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering if 
> there was a preferred machine oil and grease? The Lewmar grease seems 
> expensive and I’d have to order it. 
> 
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

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I use white lithium grease on the bearings, light machine oil on the pawls.

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I’m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering if there 
was a preferred machine oil and grease? The Lewmar grease seems expensive and 
I’d have to order it.

Chris

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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

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I have white lithium grease. Is it waterproof? Chris 


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I use white lithium grease on the bearings, light machine oil on the pawls.

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I’m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering if there 
was a preferred machine oil and grease? The Lewmar grease seems expensive and 
I’d have to order it. 
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

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I was going to suggest Braycote 601EF but since it is going for $626 US 
for a 2 oz tube, you could buy new winches for about he same money.  
Luckily, I ended up with a 1 oz tube when I retired.


Neil Schiller
1983 C&C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC

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I’m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering 
if there was a preferred machine oil and grease? The Lewmar grease 
seems expensive and I’d have to order it.


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Re: Stus-List engine oil filters and Car talk

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Here is an OEM parts supplier.  You can get the part number and then use
any of the cross-reference links to double check me.
http://marinedieselparts.com/store/yanmar.htm

Josh

On Sat, Nov 3, 2018, 1:27 PM Wade Glew via CnC-List  Will Napa be able to tell me which Wix filter will fit my 2GMF Yanmar?
> Wade
> Oh Boy C&C 33 MKII
>
> On Sat, Nov 3, 2018, 12:20 svrebeccaleah via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
>
>> I second the vote for WIX available at your local NAPA store.
>>
>>
>>
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>> Sv Rebecca Leah
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

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Practical Sailor did an article on which winch greases performed best.  FEB
2016

If you currently subscribe then you can view the article here:
https://www.practical-sailor.com/issues/37_70/features/Winch-Grease-Corrosion-Tests_12090-1.html

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

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> I’m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering if
> there was a preferred machine oil and grease? The Lewmar grease seems
> expensive and I’d have to order it.
>
> Chris
>
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

[Chris Graham via CnC-List]

Nuts. I no longer have a subscription. Chris 

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Practical Sailor did an article on which winch greases performed best.  FEB 2016
If you currently subscribe then you can view the article 
here:https://www.practical-sailor.com/issues/37_70/features/Winch-Grease-Corrosion-Tests_12090-1.html

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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

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I use the Lewmar grease. Use it sparingly. I do all winches (ten) on my
boat every year, and a tube of Lewmar grease lasts me for years.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR


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> I’m performing maintenance on my Barient 18 winches and was wondering if
> there was a preferred machine oil and grease? The Lewmar grease seems
> expensive and I’d have to order it.
>
> Chris
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Re: Stus-List Winch grease

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I may just order a tube. Chris


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I use the Lewmar grease. Use it sparingly. I do all winches (ten) on my boat 
every year, and a tube of Lewmar grease lasts me for years.  

Alan Bergen35 Mk III ThirstyRose City YCPortland, OR


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