Re: Stus-List Toe Rail Cleat

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Another great quote/aphorism:

"Good judgement comes from experience.  Experience comes from bad judgement.”

:^)

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Jun 28, 2018, at 9:03 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Well as they say, "There is no better teacher than that of experience."  
> Maybe I'll learn my lesson!
> 
> Josh 

___

Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use PayPal 
to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

Re: Stus-List Toe Rail Cleat

[Catherine & Michael via CnC-List]

We have been trying to figure out how to tie off at mid-ship using the
gunwale steel angle as well.



Our relatively inexpensive solution has been working well for us this
season.



We purchased 4 sets of 24” long non-stretch UV protected line, tied a
stopper knot with the two loose ends creating a loop, and put the loop
section through the space in the gunwale steel angle near mid-ship.  We
then inserted a stainless steel thimble and whipped the remaining section
of the loop to keep the SS thimble in place.   We put two on each side (one
for a forward spring, and one for an aft spring). Total assembly was
between $10 and $20 for all four connection points.



So far, we have not had it get stuck on rigging or the dock, and has been a
great solution for docks that have cleats at the beginning and end.


We had also purchased long breast lines which go from the boat to the cleat
at the dock, form a loop through these small loops noted above, and back to
the cleat on the dock.  Double Feature is that we can easily tie the
bowline to the stern line if single-handing the boat.  The downside to this
arrangement is that you don't have a spring line at mid ship if you need it
to stop the boat while docking (unless you add an extra temporary line or
tie bow/stern lines together).


Link to Photos:
https://poopdeck.smugmug.com/General-Sharing-Folder/CC-List-Toe-Rail-Tie-Off-Emailed-June-29-2018/n-ZBZRTG


Cheers,

Catherine Kierans & Michael Egberts
theegbertsfam...@gmail.com
C&C 33 MKII

On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 7:47 AM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Another great quote/aphorism:
>
> "Good judgement comes from experience.  Experience comes from bad
> judgement.”
>
> :^)
>
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
>
> On Jun 28, 2018, at 9:03 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Well as they say, "There is no better teacher than that of experience."
>  Maybe I'll learn my lesson!
>
> Josh
>
>
>
> ___
>
> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each
> and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list -
> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>
>
>
___

Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use PayPal 
to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

Stus-List Amazing USCG rescue - Anybody else see this?

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1739506892791962&id=11980054663
___

Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use PayPal 
to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

Re: Stus-List Centre board

[T Sutton via CnC-List]

FWIW I do the opposite, I put the board down after lift in and it stays down 
most the time.  I might try raising it if I'm not trying to point but mostly 
if I am approaching shallow water.  I'm on Lake Huron so it's clean fresh 
water and although I've had the boat only 4 years I have had the inspection 
plate off which gives limited access to the pendant and sheave and it all 
appears to be fine.  I find it a huge advantage and peace of mind when 
heading to the North Channel and being able to reduce my draft by 2 feet.


Tom S
33 Mk II KC/B

-Original Message- 
From: Danny Haughey

Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2018 11:46 AM
To: Persuasion37 via CnC-List
Subject: Re: Stus-List Centre board

I probably set my CB down 3 or 4 times a year.  It really helps pointing
and stiffens the boat.  we don't go very far currently but I'm assuming
when we start to venture further it will see more use.

Danny
Tartan 40 (ex viking 33 owner)
Mattapoisett, MA


On 6/28/2018 11:20 AM, Persuasion37 via CnC-List wrote:
To all you keel/centre board owners, I’m wondering how many of you 
actually use the centre board?


Some of you may recall that the pendant let go somewhere in the Bahamas in 
14/15.  Fortunately the board was jammed up inside and had been for a 
number of years.  Upon my return to Canada I removed the board and it has 
been in my garage ever since.  Long story short it is repaired and I am 
ready to re-install the board.  I’m thinking of just pinning the board in 
the up position.  I have all the hardware but I’ve only had the board 
deployed 3 times in 12 years.  This should also relieve any maintenance 
issues.  Any thoughts?


Thanks in advance for the feedback.

Mike
PERSUASION
C&C 37 K/CB
Long Sault
___

Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each 
and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - 
use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray







___

Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use PayPal 
to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

Re: Stus-List Centre board

[Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List]

I use our board virtually every time we go out, and this is due to the fact 
that western Florida is so shallow that there's no way I can get to my slip 
with the board down except maybe at a high tide.  Certainly, it MUST be up when 
were in the slip, as low-low tides will cause the boat to touch bottom even 
with the board up.
And, when daysailing, the light air down here tends to make me want to point 
relatively high, as our C&C 37/40+ gets the most speed in light air when were 
sailing almost on the nock, and we've found that having the board down 
substantively reduces the rocking of the boat when large fishing boats go 
speeding past us to get to deeper water (which happens a lot as we get close to 
John's Pass).
I've not had the boat out of the water other than the initial survey (I've 
owned the boat about 16 months and the bottom is not yet ready for repainting). 
 I'm curious about pulling the plate to check out the centerboard cable.  I 
understand I may not see much, but of course if I found a broken strand or two 
in the wire, I'd put replacing the cable on the "emergency' list.
For those of you who know this boat, is there any downside to trying to pull 
the plate?  Can it be done in the water?  

Sorry, I just can't envision it in my head at the moment...
Thanks!
 Bruce Whitmore
1994 C&C 37/40+ "Astralis"Madeira Beach, FL
(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net


  From: T Sutton via CnC-List 
 To: Persuasion37 via CnC-List  
Cc: T Sutton 
 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 11:01 AM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Centre board
   
FWIW I do the opposite, I put the board down after lift in and it stays down 
most the time.  I might try raising it if I'm not trying to point but mostly 
if I am approaching shallow water.  I'm on Lake Huron so it's clean fresh 
water and although I've had the boat only 4 years I have had the inspection 
plate off which gives limited access to the pendant and sheave and it all 
appears to be fine.  I find it a huge advantage and peace of mind when 
heading to the North Channel and being able to reduce my draft by 2 feet.

Tom S
33 Mk II KC/B

-Original Message- 
From: Danny Haughey
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2018 11:46 AM
To: Persuasion37 via CnC-List
Subject: Re: Stus-List Centre board

I probably set my CB down 3 or 4 times a year.  It really helps pointing
and stiffens the boat.  we don't go very far currently but I'm assuming
when we start to venture further it will see more use.

Danny
Tartan 40 (ex viking 33 owner)
Mattapoisett, MA


On 6/28/2018 11:20 AM, Persuasion37 via CnC-List wrote:
> To all you keel/centre board owners, I’m wondering how many of you 
> actually use the centre board?
>
> Some of you may recall that the pendant let go somewhere in the Bahamas in 
> 14/15.  Fortunately the board was jammed up inside and had been for a 
> number of years.  Upon my return to Canada I removed the board and it has 
> been in my garage ever since.  Long story short it is repaired and I am 
> ready to re-install the board.  I’m thinking of just pinning the board in 
> the up position.  I have all the hardware but I’ve only had the board 
> deployed 3 times in 12 years.  This should also relieve any maintenance 
> issues.  Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks in advance for the feedback.
>
> Mike
> PERSUASION
> C&C 37 K/CB
> Long Sault
> ___
>
> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each 
> and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - 
> use PayPal to send contribution --  https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>




___

Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use PayPal 
to send contribution --  https://www.paypal.me/stumurray



   ___

Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use PayPal 
to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

Re: Stus-List Amazing USCG rescue - Anybody else see this?

[John Christopher via CnC-List]

Yeah, amazing read... 150 miles left in their journey to port. Feel bad for the 
couple and hats off to the USCG... from Canada 


/John

> On Jun 29, 2018, at 10:02 AM, Josh Muckley  wrote:
> 
> https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1739506892791962&id=11980054663
___

Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use PayPal 
to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

Stus-List CnC 35 MkII forstay length

[Garry Cross via CnC-List]

 Hi, fellow MkII owners. Does anybody have the actual length of the
forstay.
I just got a new one and it is 47' 7.5 in pin to pin I don't think that is
long enough with a 47' J dimension and 15' I. This measurement with the
adjuster roughly 3/4 open.

Thanks.

Garry Cross
35MkII, Second Chance
___

Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use PayPal 
to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

Re: Stus-List Centre board

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Bruce,

If you mean the plate below your floorboards, do not open it while in the water 
— it’s below the water line and you will sink the boat. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 








On Jun 29, 2018, at 12:10 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I use our board virtually every time we go out, and this is due to the fact 
that western Florida is so shallow that there's no way I can get to my slip 
with the board down except maybe at a high tide.  Certainly, it MUST be up when 
were in the slip, as low-low tides will cause the boat to touch bottom even 
with the board up.

And, when daysailing, the light air down here tends to make me want to point 
relatively high, as our C&C 37/40+ gets the most speed in light air when were 
sailing almost on the nock, and we've found that having the board down 
substantively reduces the rocking of the boat when large fishing boats go 
speeding past us to get to deeper water (which happens a lot as we get close to 
John's Pass).

I've not had the boat out of the water other than the initial survey (I've 
owned the boat about 16 months and the bottom is not yet ready for repainting). 
 I'm curious about pulling the plate to check out the centerboard cable.  I 
understand I may not see much, but of course if I found a broken strand or two 
in the wire, I'd put replacing the cable on the "emergency' list.

For those of you who know this boat, is there any downside to trying to pull 
the plate?  Can it be done in the water?  

Sorry, I just can't envision it in my head at the moment...

Thanks!
 
Bruce Whitmore
1994 C&C 37/40+ "Astralis"
Madeira Beach, FL
(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net


From: T Sutton via CnC-List 
To: Persuasion37 via CnC-List  
Cc: T Sutton 
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Centre board

FWIW I do the opposite, I put the board down after lift in and it stays down 
most the time.  I might try raising it if I'm not trying to point but mostly 
if I am approaching shallow water.  I'm on Lake Huron so it's clean fresh 
water and although I've had the boat only 4 years I have had the inspection 
plate off which gives limited access to the pendant and sheave and it all 
appears to be fine.  I find it a huge advantage and peace of mind when 
heading to the North Channel and being able to reduce my draft by 2 feet.

Tom S
33 Mk II KC/B

-Original Message- 
From: Danny Haughey
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2018 11:46 AM
To: Persuasion37 via CnC-List
Subject: Re: Stus-List Centre board

I probably set my CB down 3 or 4 times a year.  It really helps pointing
and stiffens the boat.  we don't go very far currently but I'm assuming
when we start to venture further it will see more use.

Danny
Tartan 40 (ex viking 33 owner)
Mattapoisett, MA


On 6/28/2018 11:20 AM, Persuasion37 via CnC-List wrote:
> To all you keel/centre board owners, I’m wondering how many of you 
> actually use the centre board?
>
> Some of you may recall that the pendant let go somewhere in the Bahamas in 
> 14/15.  Fortunately the board was jammed up inside and had been for a 
> number of years.  Upon my return to Canada I removed the board and it has 
> been in my garage ever since.  Long story short it is repaired and I am 
> ready to re-install the board.  I’m thinking of just pinning the board in 
> the up position.  I have all the hardware but I’ve only had the board 
> deployed 3 times in 12 years.  This should also relieve any maintenance 
> issues.  Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks in advance for the feedback.
>
> Mike
> PERSUASION
> C&C 37 K/CB
> Long Sault
> ___
>
> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each 
> and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - 
> use PayPal to send contribution --  https://www.paypal.me/stumurray 
> 
>




___

Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use PayPal 
to send contribution --  https://www.paypal.me/stumurray 




___

Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use PayPal 
to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray


___

Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use PayPal 
to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

Re: Stus-List Centre board

[Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List]

Yeah, I kind of thought about as much, but as I said, I couldn't really picture 
where it was in my mind.
Thanks!  Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net


  From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Edd Schillay 
 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 12:30 PM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Centre board
   
Bruce,
If you mean the plate below your floorboards, do not open it while in the water 
— it’s below the water line and you will sink the boat. 

All the best,
Edd

Edd M. SchillayStarship EnterpriseC&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-BCity Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log


 



On Jun 29, 2018, at 12:10 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
 wrote:
I use our board virtually every time we go out, and this is due to the fact 
that western Florida is so shallow that there's no way I can get to my slip 
with the board down except maybe at a high tide.  Certainly, it MUST be up when 
were in the slip, as low-low tides will cause the boat to touch bottom even 
with the board up.
And, when daysailing, the light air down here tends to make me want to point 
relatively high, as our C&C 37/40+ gets the most speed in light air when were 
sailing almost on the nock, and we've found that having the board down 
substantively reduces the rocking of the boat when large fishing boats go 
speeding past us to get to deeper water (which happens a lot as we get close to 
John's Pass).
I've not had the boat out of the water other than the initial survey (I've 
owned the boat about 16 months and the bottom is not yet ready for repainting). 
 I'm curious about pulling the plate to check out the centerboard cable.  I 
understand I may not see much, but of course if I found a broken strand or two 
in the wire, I'd put replacing the cable on the "emergency' list.
For those of you who know this boat, is there any downside to trying to pull 
the plate?  Can it be done in the water?  

Sorry, I just can't envision it in my head at the moment...
Thanks!
 Bruce Whitmore
1994 C&C 37/40+ "Astralis"Madeira Beach, FL
(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net


  From: T Sutton via CnC-List 
 To: Persuasion37 via CnC-List  
Cc: T Sutton 
 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 11:01 AM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Centre board
  
FWIW I do the opposite, I put the board down after lift in and it stays down 
most the time.  I might try raising it if I'm not trying to point but mostly 
if I am approaching shallow water.  I'm on Lake Huron so it's clean fresh 
water and although I've had the boat only 4 years I have had the inspection 
plate off which gives limited access to the pendant and sheave and it all 
appears to be fine.  I find it a huge advantage and peace of mind when 
heading to the North Channel and being able to reduce my draft by 2 feet.

Tom S
33 Mk II KC/B

-Original Message- 
From: Danny Haughey
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2018 11:46 AM
To: Persuasion37 via CnC-List
Subject: Re: Stus-List Centre board

I probably set my CB down 3 or 4 times a year.  It really helps pointing
and stiffens the boat.  we don't go very far currently but I'm assuming
when we start to venture further it will see more use.

Danny
Tartan 40 (ex viking 33 owner)
Mattapoisett, MA


On 6/28/2018 11:20 AM, Persuasion37 via CnC-List wrote:
> To all you keel/centre board owners, I’m wondering how many of you 
> actually use the centre board?
>
> Some of you may recall that the pendant let go somewhere in the Bahamas in 
> 14/15.  Fortunately the board was jammed up inside and had been for a 
> number of years.  Upon my return to Canada I removed the board and it has 
> been in my garage ever since.  Long story short it is repaired and I am 
> ready to re-install the board.  I’m thinking of just pinning the board in 
> the up position.  I have all the hardware but I’ve only had the board 
> deployed 3 times in 12 years.  This should also relieve any maintenance 
> issues.  Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks in advance for the feedback.
>
> Mike
> PERSUASION
> C&C 37 K/CB
> Long Sault
> ___
>
> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each 
> and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - 
> use PayPal to send contribution --  https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>




___

Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use PayPal 
to send contribution --  https://www.paypal.me/stumurray



   ___

Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use PayPal 
to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray


___

Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
every one is greatly a

Stus-List Sling Decals

[Stu via CnC-List]

Is this what you had in mind for sling decals.  These are approx.  – 1” x 
2.25”.  Marine grade vinyl available in red, blue or black.

Haven’t figured out a shipped price yet.  What would you pay for 4?



Stu

---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
https://www.avg.com
___

Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use PayPal 
to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

Stus-List Weird - Marine Vendor Websites Down

[Randy Stafford via CnC-List]

This morning I’m trying to look into ramshorn reefing hooks for Grenadine, and 
all of defender.com , rigrite.com , 
and westmarine.com  websites are unresponsive.  Only  
jamestowndistributors.com  is responsive.  
What the heck?

Cheers,
Randy___

Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use PayPal 
to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Weird - Marine Vendor Websites Down

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Only West is down right this second.

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Randy 
Stafford via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 1:14 PM
To: cnc-list
Cc: Randy Stafford
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Weird - Marine Vendor Websites Down

This morning I’m trying to look into ramshorn reefing hooks for Grenadine, and 
all of defender.com, rigrite.com, and 
westmarine.com websites are unresponsive.  Only  
jamestowndistributors.com is responsive.  
What the heck?

Cheers,
Randy
___

Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use PayPal 
to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

Re: Stus-List Weird - Marine Vendor Websites Down

[Gary Russell via CnC-List]

Defender is working for me, at the moment.
Gary
S/V Kaylarah

~~~_/)~~


On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 1:14 PM, Randy Stafford via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> This morning I’m trying to look into ramshorn reefing hooks for Grenadine,
> and all of defender.com, rigrite.com, and westmarine.com websites are
> unresponsive.  Only  jamestowndistributors.com is responsive.  What the
> heck?
>
> Cheers,
> Randy
>
> ___
>
> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each
> and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list -
> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>
>
>
___

Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use PayPal 
to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

Re: Stus-List Weird - Marine Vendor Websites Down

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

They work fine for me.  Does your wife have a smirk on her face?  Does your
computer have "parental controls".  :)

Dennis C.

On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 12:14 PM, Randy Stafford via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> This morning I’m trying to look into ramshorn reefing hooks for Grenadine,
> and all of defender.com, rigrite.com, and westmarine.com websites are
> unresponsive.  Only  jamestowndistributors.com is responsive.  What the
> heck?
>
> Cheers,
> Randy
>
> ___
>
> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each
> and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list -
> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>
>
>
___

Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use PayPal 
to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

Re: Stus-List Weird - Marine Vendor Websites Down

[Randy Stafford via CnC-List]

That’s a great theory Dennis :)  Must be a problem with my ISP (Comcast, 
Denver).  I still can’t get to any of those sites.  I’ll try via AT&T cellular 
network.

> On Jun 29, 2018, at 11:19 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> They work fine for me.  Does your wife have a smirk on her face?  Does your 
> computer have "parental controls".  :)
> 
> Dennis C.
> 
> On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 12:14 PM, Randy Stafford via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> This morning I’m trying to look into ramshorn reefing hooks for Grenadine, 
> and all of defender.com , rigrite.com 
> , and westmarine.com  websites 
> are unresponsive.  Only  jamestowndistributors.com 
>  is responsive.  What the heck?
> 
> Cheers,
> Randy
> 
> ___
> 
> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
> every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use 
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ___
> 
> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
> every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use 
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
> 

___

Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use PayPal 
to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

Re: Stus-List Amazing USCG rescue - Anybody else see this?

[David Knecht via CnC-List]

Very powerful and emotional story.  Never having been offshore, I can only 
imagine what it would be like to be in that situation.  It did not sound like 
the boat was in danger of sinking.  What options did they realistically have?  
Is there a way to ride out a situation like that?  I wonder also if the only 
thing you can do in those conditions is go downwind keeping the waves at their 
stern.  If you had a bit of sail and tried to reach or beat, what would happen? 
 Dave

Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT



> On Jun 29, 2018, at 10:02 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1739506892791962&id=11980054663
>  
> ___
> 
> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
> every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use 
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
> 

___

Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use PayPal 
to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

Re: Stus-List Sling Decals

[Wade Glew via CnC-List]

Are you making these Stu?
Wade
33 Mk II
Oh boy

On Jun 29, 2018 11:56, "Stu via CnC-List"  wrote:

Is this what you had in mind for sling decals.  These are approx.  – 1” x
2.25”.  Marine grade vinyl available in red, blue or black.

Haven’t figured out a shipped price yet.  What would you pay for 4?

[image: sling_decals]

Stu


Virus-free.
www.avg.com

<#m_-7428324240045864656_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
___

Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and
every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use
PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
___

Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use PayPal 
to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

Re: Stus-List Sling Decals

[Neil Andersen via CnC-List]

I’d buy some to give to my customers

Neil Andersen
20691 Jamieson Rd
Rock Hall, MD 21661

From: CnC-List  on behalf of Wade Glew via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 1:52:29 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Wade Glew
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sling Decals

Are you making these Stu?
Wade
33 Mk II
Oh boy

On Jun 29, 2018 11:56, "Stu via CnC-List" 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Is this what you had in mind for sling decals.  These are approx.  – 1” x 
2.25”.  Marine grade vinyl available in red, blue or black.

Haven’t figured out a shipped price yet.  What would you pay for 4?

[sling_decals]

Stu

[https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-green-avg-v1.png]
 Virus-free. 
www.avg.com
___

Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use PayPal 
to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray


___

Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use PayPal 
to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

Re: Stus-List Sling Decals

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Not sure what I want.  Was looking for ideas.  Those are nice, however.

Dennis C.

On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 11:56 AM, Stu via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Is this what you had in mind for sling decals.  These are approx.  – 1” x
> 2.25”.  Marine grade vinyl available in red, blue or black.
>
> Haven’t figured out a shipped price yet.  What would you pay for 4?
>
> [image: sling_decals]
>
> Stu
>
>
> 
>  Virus-free.
> www.avg.com
> 
> <#m_-673970162500423675_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>
> ___
>
> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each
> and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list -
> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>
>
>
___

Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use PayPal 
to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

Re: Stus-List Weird - Marine Vendor Websites Down

[Michael Brown via CnC-List]

I have this in from an American customer who is having similar problems.




> Comcast is in the middle of a major outage in many parts of the country, 
> especially the Northeast. 
> If you have clients with problems, best to see if Comcast is involved.


Michael Brown
Windburn
C&C 30-1



From: Randy Stafford  

This morning I?m trying to look into ramshorn reefing hooks for Grenadine, and 
all of defender.com , rigrite.com , 
and westmarine.com  websites are unresponsive.  Only  
jamestowndistributors.com  is responsive.  
What the heck? 
 
Cheers, 
Randy 
___

Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use PayPal 
to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

Re: Stus-List Amazing USCG rescue - Anybody else see this?

[Edward Levert via CnC-List]

I too have no appreciable offshore experience but it sounds a little bit of
get home itis. 17 years cruising and these were the worse sea conditions
experienced? No storm sails, sea anchor or warps? Did not heave to? Content
to move at 5kts downwind in huge seas? Make for an alternate safe harbor
even though it puts you further from home?

But we were not there. Life saved is worth more than all the Monday morning
quarterbacking we can come up with.

Ed Levert
Briar Patch
C&C 34
New Orleans La



On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 12:50 PM David Knecht via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Very powerful and emotional story.  Never having been offshore, I can only
> imagine what it would be like to be in that situation.  It did not sound
> like the boat was in danger of sinking.  What options did they
> realistically have?  Is there a way to ride out a situation like that?  I
> wonder also if the only thing you can do in those conditions is go downwind
> keeping the waves at their stern.  If you had a bit of sail and tried to
> reach or beat, what would happen?  Dave
>
> Aries
> 1990 C&C 34+
> New London, CT
>
>
> On Jun 29, 2018, at 10:02 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>
> https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1739506892791962&id=11980054663
> ___
>
> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each
> and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list -
> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>
>
> ___
>
> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each
> and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list -
> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>
>
___

Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use PayPal 
to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

Re: Stus-List checking fire extinguishers & Lifeslings

[Persuasion37 via CnC-List]

Al

You may be looking at the wrong standard.

From Transport Canada Marine
All extinguishers should be visually inspected each month, and serviced once a 
year. All carbon dioxide extinguishers should be weighed annually. Dry chemical 
extinguishers should occasionally be turned upside down and shaken.

A hydrostatic test should be performed:

every 12 years for pressure type extinguishers

every 5 years for carbon dioxide and water extinguishers

after discharge for any extinguisher 5 years old or older
There is a requirement for yearly certification under the Canada safety code.

Mike
PERSUASION
C&C 37 K/CB
Long Sault

> On Jun 28, 2018, at 8:04 PM, Alan Liles via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Canadian regulations require fire extinguishers to be recertified yearly. 
> It's probably a good thing but I always complain about the cost. 
> 
> Al Liles
> SV Elendil
> Vancouver BC
> 
> 
>> On Jun 27, 2018, at 6:59 PM, Leslie Paal via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> make sure the powder is not compacted, need to shake it up regularly.  It 
>> will not work if the powder is in one big lump.
>> 
>> Leslie,
>> semi-retired USAR member.
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, 6/27/18, svrebeccaleah via CnC-List  wrote:
>> 
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List checking fire extinguishers & Lifeslings
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: "svrebeccaleah" 
>> Date: Wednesday, June 27, 2018, 9:55 AM
>> 
>> Eric,I
>> just replaced some of my fire extinguishers. There was a
>> year embossed on the bottom of mine. One was 88, another was
>> 94. As long as the pressure is in the green, and weight is
>> above minimum on label they are serviceable.(this is how we
>> check the at the airline I work for).  I use a small
>> kitchen scale. 
>> 
>> 
>> Doug
>> Mountjoy Rebecca
>> Leah LF39 Port Orchard YC,
>> WA.
>> 
>> 
>>  Original
>> message From: Eric Frank via CnC-List
>>  Date: 6/27/18 
>> 08:56  (GMT-08:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: Eric Frank 
>> Subject: Stus-List checking fire extinguishers
>> & Lifeslings 
>> 
>> Checking the condition of the
>> extinguishers aboard Cats Paw - I can’t find a date on
>> them.  Aren’t they supposed to be replaced every 5 years,
>> or is it sufficient to just check that the pressure
>> indicator is safely in the green? A related safety issue - I
>> checked the line inside my Lifesling and discovered the
>> splice between the yellow polypropylene line and the heavier
>> line that is secured to a deck cleat was in terrible
>> condition.  It would likely have broken had we used it.
>> That has not been on my list to check annually but certainly
>> is now - just passing this along to the group.
>> Polypropylene is UV sensitive, so it's likely the
>> plastic line should be replaced.  Is that safe (and would
>> it satisfy a safety inspection) - if so how does one splice
>> the plastic line with the heavier line at the end? For this
>> year, I decided to buy a new Lifesling, although the
>> Sunbrella cover I had made for it when purchased seems in
>> good condition.
>> 
>> Eric
>> Frank
>> Cat's
>> Paw, C&C 35 Mk II
>> Mattapoisett, MA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ___
>> 
>> Thanks everyone for supporting
>> this list with your contributions.  Each and every one is
>> greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use
>> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>> 
>> 
>> -Inline Attachment Follows-
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ___
>> 
>> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
>> every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use 
>> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>> 
> 
> ___
> 
> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
> every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use 
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
> 
___

Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use PayPal 
to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 149, Issue 125z

[martinkane via CnC-List]

zzz


Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada's largest network.
 Original message From: cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com Date: 
2018-06-29  12:37 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: CnC-List 
Digest, Vol 149, Issue 125 
Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to
cnc-list@cnc-list.com

To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com

You can reach the person managing the list at
cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com

When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..."

Today's Topics:

   1. Re:  Centre board (Bruce Whitmore)
   2. Re:  Amazing USCG rescue - Anybody else see this?
  (John Christopher)
   3.  CnC 35 MkII forstay length (Garry Cross)
   4. Re:  Centre board (Edd Schillay)
   5. Re:  Centre board (Bruce Whitmore)

___
CnC-List mailing list
CnC-List@cnc-list.com
http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
___

Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use PayPal 
to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

Re: Stus-List Gelcoat to match C&C Landfall 38

[Robert Boyer via CnC-List]

Dennis:

Fiber Glast sent me a color book for Ashland Maxguard Premium Gelcoats.  There 
is no swatch #F155 in this color book but “Pure White RAL9010” looks pretty 
close.  Thanks for your help on this!

Bob

Bob Boyer
s/v Rainy Days
C&C Landfall 38 (Hull # 230)
(Presently on the ICW)
blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
email: dainyr...@icloud.com

> On Jun 26, 2018, at 1:07 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> You can rent a gelcoat color book from fibreglast.com for $5 for 30 days.  
> They will tint a quart to match your selected swatch.
> 
> The deck on Touche', 1971 35-1, is very close to swatch F155 in the Instint 
> color book.
> 
> Dennis C.
> ___
> 
> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
> every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use 
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
> 
___

Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use PayPal 
to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

Stus-List Amazing USCG rescue - Anybody else see this?

[Francois Rivard via CnC-List]

Thanks for sharing, it's a well written and poignant story.

I think it's easy to find faults from a distance.  I'm also of the opinion
that younger / tougher sailors would have sailed home as the mast was still
up, the sails there, the boat wasn't taking on water, and the inoperable
pumps sounded fixable since they were supposedly only clogged by paper..

But I wasn't there.

In my mind 2 things were much harder to fix:

1) They were a couple of exhausted / beaten 70 year old folks showing
physical signs of distress coming from off-shore exposure and hypothermia.

2) The dinghy / life raft were gone.  If the boat did start to sink, they
had no options.

It's pretty clear that they "gave up" on a likely to be fixable situation
but the real issue was that they were also really worried that either one
or both could fall seriously ill or worse before they could reach the
shore.

I wouldn't want to be the widower that caused his / her better half to
perish by saying: "He/ she'll be just fine" the boat's replaceable.


-Francois Rivard
1990 34+ "Take Five"
Lake Lanier, GA
___

Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use PayPal 
to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

Re: Stus-List Weird - Marine Vendor Websites Down

[Randy Stafford via CnC-List]

Thanks Michael.  After sending this, I was able to reach the sites over the 
AT&T cellular network.  Comcast must’ve been having massive DNS / routing 
problems.

Cheers,
Randy

> On Jun 29, 2018, at 12:22 PM, Michael Brown via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I have this in from an American customer who is having similar problems.
> 
> 
> > Comcast is in the middle of a major outage in many parts of the country, 
> > especially the Northeast. 
> > If you have clients with problems, best to see if Comcast is involved.
> 
> Michael Brown
> Windburn
> C&C 30-1
> 
> 
> From: Randy Stafford  
> 
> This morning I?m trying to look into ramshorn reefing hooks for Grenadine, 
> and all of defender.com , rigrite.com 
> , and westmarine.com  websites 
> are unresponsive.  Only  jamestowndistributors.com 
>  is responsive.  What the heck? 
> 
> Cheers, 
> Randy 
> ___
> 
> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
> every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use 
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
> 

___

Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use PayPal 
to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

Re: Stus-List Amazing USCG rescue - Anybody else see this?

[Randy Stafford via CnC-List]

I’m not judging, but trying to learn.

In the account, they were sailing down steep 30-foot waves under bare poles.  
The woman awoke to a hard hit by a wave, was suddenly on the ceiling, and tons 
of water came in through the companionway hatch.  The man at the helm assessed 
that they had been turned upside down.

The account does not indicate whether the companionway was closed (hatch boards 
in place), nor whether the the boat may have turned beam to the waves and 
rolled.

What I’m wondering is, regardless of whether they got pooped or rolled, could 
tons of water have come through the companionway if it was closed?

In any case I’m glad the couple survived the ordeal safely, and sorry about the 
loss of their boat.

Best Regards,
Randy Stafford
S/V Grenadine
C&C 30-1 #7
Ken Caryl, CO

> On Jun 29, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Francois Rivard via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for sharing, it's a well written and poignant story.  
> 
> I think it's easy to find faults from a distance.  I'm also of the opinion 
> that younger / tougher sailors would have sailed home as the mast was still 
> up, the sails there, the boat wasn't taking on water, and the inoperable 
> pumps sounded fixable since they were supposedly only clogged by paper.. 
> 
> But I wasn't there.  
> 
> In my mind 2 things were much harder to fix: 
> 
> 1) They were a couple of exhausted / beaten 70 year old folks showing 
> physical signs of distress coming from off-shore exposure and hypothermia. 
> 
> 2) The dinghy / life raft were gone.  If the boat did start to sink, they had 
> no options. 
> 
> It's pretty clear that they "gave up" on a likely to be fixable situation but 
> the real issue was that they were also really worried that either one or both 
> could fall seriously ill or worse before they could reach the shore. 
> 
> I wouldn't want to be the widower that caused his / her better half to perish 
> by saying: "He/ she'll be just fine" the boat's replaceable. 
> 
> 
> -Francois Rivard
> 1990 34+ "Take Five"
> Lake Lanier, GA 
> ___
> 
> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
> every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use 
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
> 


___

Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use PayPal 
to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

Re: Stus-List Amazing USCG rescue - Anybody else see this?

[David Miles via CnC-List]

I have no idea on their boat, but I just saw an ocean going boat that was 
from the 70's with a bad crack through the 1.5" hatch. Any wave would have 
split this one.


On June 29, 2018 18:09:21 Randy Stafford via CnC-List 
 wrote:



I’m not judging, but trying to learn.

In the account, they were sailing down steep 30-foot waves under bare 
poles.  The woman awoke to a hard hit by a wave, was suddenly on the 
ceiling, and tons of water came in through the companionway hatch.  The man 
at the helm assessed that they had been turned upside down.


The account does not indicate whether the companionway was closed (hatch 
boards in place), nor whether the the boat may have turned beam to the 
waves and rolled.


What I’m wondering is, regardless of whether they got pooped or rolled, 
could tons of water have come through the companionway if it was closed?


In any case I’m glad the couple survived the ordeal safely, and sorry about 
the loss of their boat.


Best Regards,
Randy Stafford
S/V Grenadine
C&C 30-1 #7
Ken Caryl, CO

On Jun 29, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Francois Rivard via CnC-List 
 wrote:


Thanks for sharing, it's a well written and poignant story.

I think it's easy to find faults from a distance.  I'm also of the opinion 
that younger / tougher sailors would have sailed home as the mast was still 
up, the sails there, the boat wasn't taking on water, and the inoperable 
pumps sounded fixable since they were supposedly only clogged by paper..


But I wasn't there.

In my mind 2 things were much harder to fix:

1) They were a couple of exhausted / beaten 70 year old folks showing 
physical signs of distress coming from off-shore exposure and hypothermia.


2) The dinghy / life raft were gone.  If the boat did start to sink, they 
had no options.


It's pretty clear that they "gave up" on a likely to be fixable situation 
but the real issue was that they were also really worried that either one 
or both could fall seriously ill or worse before they could reach the shore.


I wouldn't want to be the widower that caused his / her better half to 
perish by saying: "He/ she'll be just fine" the boat's replaceable.



-Francois Rivard
1990 34+ "Take Five"
Lake Lanier, GA
___

Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use 
PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray





___

Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use 
PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray





___

Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each and 
every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use PayPal 
to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray