Re: Stus-List AERIAL conflict?

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Two issues:

1.   RF interference: Does the signal from one radio degrade the operation 
of the other radio?

2.   Antenna detuning: Does one antenna interact with the near-field RF to 
detune the other antenna?

Starting with 2, if you mount a vertical antenna at the same level as the VHF 
antenna and within a few feet of it, you can possibly cause the VHF antenna to 
perform poorly. This has no relation to the signal from antenna number two, 
this would happen if the second antenna is not connected to anything. The first 
issue is alleviated by the fact a marine VHF is operating around 156 MHz and 
the Wifi antenna is on 2,400 MHz. If the antennas are not so close you have 
issue number 1, I can’t imagine the two systems would interfere with each other.

Joe
Coquina

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Stus-List Sealant for chainplates.

[Glen Eddie via CnC-List]

Can someone with a 35 mkI or II let me know the sealant used at the deck when 
rebedding a chainplate.  4000?

Your assistance is much appreciated.



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Re: Stus-List Sealant for chainplates.

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I just re-bedded Touche's chain plates with Bed-It butyl tape.

http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/butyl_tape

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 7:18 AM, Glen Eddie via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Can someone with a 35 mkI or II let me know the sealant used at the deck
> when rebedding a chainplate.  4000?
>
> Your assistance is much appreciated.
>
> --
>
>
> Glen Eddie
> Tel: 416-777-5357
> Fax: 1-888-812-2557
> ged...@torkinmanes.com
> VCard 
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Re: Stus-List Solar day/night fans - things you need to know

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Rick,

You went into a lot more detail.  Good job.  Your post was better at
explaining what I had seen about the 20803 vs the 20703 and the fitment
issues with the 20803.  Both have fairly vertical sides for catching lines.

By "new" Nicro, I meant the 20703 as opposed to the old Nicro that's been
gone for several years.  This was the old one:

http://www.marinemechanic.com/New-Folder2/solarvent.html

The old Nicro fans never caught lines.

Dennis C.

On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:39 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Dennis, et al;
>
>
>
> Having installed both the Day/Night model N20703 (last fall) and N20803
> (just last week) on Imzadi, I have a couple of observations.
>
>
>
> I’ve replaced my dorade boxes with these fans. The Day/Night Plus N20703
> was a pretty simple installation. The main difficulty was enlarging the 3”
> diameter hole in the deck to fit the larger diameter of the fan. The
> mounting plate screws to the deck, and the fan itself screws to the
> mounting plate. So it is a pretty  robust installation. There is a trim
> ring included for installation inside the headliner, but I just enlarged
> the hole in the white Lexan panels that covered where my dorades came
> through the ceiling. (BTW, you refer to the Day/Night Plus as the “new”
> Nicro. They’ve actually been available for a couple of years snow.)
>
>
>
> The new N20803 fan is larger in diameter overall, stands higher off the
> deck, and needs a significantly larger hole through the deck. Installation
> was, consequentially, much more difficult. Installation is by a trim ring
> that the fan screws into with an O-ring seal between the upper trim ring
> and the fan (there are two neoprene seals between the fan and the deck),
> and a lower trim ring that screws onto the output of the fan and is
> supposed to snug up to the headliner. The minimum spacing of the two rings
> is 3”, and the deck/headliner of my 38 above the head is only 2” thick, so
> I had to modify both trim rings to get them to screw into place.
>
>
>
> The light on the N20803 is a nice feature, and the access to the battery
> is easier if it needs replacing. And you can switch from intake to exhaust
> by flipping a small switch on the light housing rather than changing the
> fan blades. The assembly  seems pretty  robust. I suspect that you are
> correct about sheets hanging up on the fan, but my fans are between the
> “islands” on the cabin top for mounting winches and cleats, so that is
> probably not a real problem for me… certainly they are a lot less likely to
> capture sheets than the old dorade boxes and cowl vents.
>
>
>
> Unfortunately, the housing that holds the lights and switches seem to have
> cut down on the amount of air being moved. My two fans are about 3 feet
> apart, and the Day/Night Plus N20703 is moving noticeably more air.
>
>
>
> Also unfortunately, while the Day/Night Plus N20703 and 4 are in the
> on-line Marineco listing of vent fans, they are no longer in the Marineco
> catalog. And West Marine told me they are being replaced by the N20803 and
> 4.
>
>
>
> In hindsight, I wish I had done a little more research and bought a second
> Day/Night Plus fan from Amazon.
>
>
>
> Rick Brass
>
> Washington, NC
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Sealant for chainplates.

[Glenn Gambel via CnC-List]

I rebedded Wind N Spirits chainplates with 4000. Worked great and no 
more leaking.


-- Original Message --
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To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
Cc: "Glen Eddie" 
Sent: 4/10/2018 8:18:32 AM
Subject: Stus-List Sealant for chainplates.



Can someone with a 35 mkI or II let me know the sealant used at the 
deck when rebedding a chainplate.  4000?


Your assistance is much appreciated.





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Re: Stus-List Sealant for chainplates.

[Mark McMenamy via CnC-List]

I second the butyl tape.   I've found it to be the best long term solution.  
But make sure to get the stuff from Compass Marine.

Mark McMenamy
C&C 25 Icicle

On Apr 10, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Glenn Gambel via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

I rebedded Wind N Spirits chainplates with 4000. Worked great and no more 
leaking.

-- Original Message --
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mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: "Glen Eddie" mailto:ged...@torkinmanes.com>>
Sent: 4/10/2018 8:18:32 AM
Subject: Stus-List Sealant for chainplates.


Can someone with a 35 mkI or II let me know the sealant used at the deck when 
rebedding a chainplate.  4000?

Your assistance is much appreciated.




Glen Eddie
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Fax: 1-888-812-2557
ged...@torkinmanes.com
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Re: Stus-List Sealant for chainplates.

[Nauset Beach via CnC-List]

I have to do the same thing, again.  Used Lifecaulk in August, 2015 and noticed 
last month one chainplate was damp, and the boat is still under its winter 
cover.  

 

The Maine Sail tape seems to be the favorite bedding material of the list.  
What is the “life expectancy” of a chainplate seal using this material in the 
wild?  For bedding hardware he shows examples of 29 years, but the rigging / 
chainplate / deck interface does move [plus temperature variations from summer 
to winter plus differing expansion properties] so would guess it would take 
more frequent maintenance. 

 

Thanks,

Brian

 

 

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via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 9:02 AM
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sealant for chainplates.

 

I just re-bedded Touche's chain plates with Bed-It butyl tape.  

 

http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/butyl_tape

 

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

 

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 7:18 AM, Glen Eddie via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Can someone with a 35 mkI or II let me know the sealant used at the deck when 
rebedding a chainplate.  4000? 

 

Your assistance is much appreciated.  


  _  


 


Glen Eddie


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Fax: 1-888-812-2557


ged...@torkinmanes.com  


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Re: Stus-List Sealant for chainplates.

[Neil E. Andersen via CnC-List]

Glen,

 

Check out this video on YouTube.  It is for an Island Packet, but covers the 
process quite well.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4L-hf5607AI 
 &t=6s

 

Sincerely,

 

Neil Andersen - Broker



Office:  410 571-3605 or 410-639-2777

Cell: 484-354-8800

Email: n...@sjyachts.com  

Website: www.sjyachts.com  

 

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CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 8:19 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Glen Eddie 
Subject: Stus-List Sealant for chainplates.

 

Can someone with a 35 mkI or II let me know the sealant used at the deck when 
rebedding a chainplate.  4000? 

 

Your assistance is much appreciated.  

  _  

 


Glen Eddie


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Fax: 1-888-812-2557


ged...@torkinmanes.com  


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Re: Stus-List Sealant for chainplates.

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

In my opinion, the issue with many sealants is they "cure" or set.  So a
polyurethane or silicone sets and becomes less flexible.  Further, many of
those sealants do not adhere tenaciously to metal.

Butyl tape, on the other hand, remains sticky and pliable for a long, long
time.  That means it will flex with any movement in the hardware without
breaking the seal.

I still use LifeSeal for many applications where there is little potential
for movement.  But I'm switching to Butyl tape for bedding anything that
may flex.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Nauset Beach via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I have to do the same thing, again.  Used Lifecaulk in August, 2015 and
> noticed last month one chainplate was damp, and the boat is still under its
> winter cover.
>
>
>
> The Maine Sail tape seems to be the favorite bedding material of the
> list.  What is the “life expectancy” of a chainplate seal using this
> material in the wild?  For bedding hardware he shows examples of 29 years,
> but the rigging / chainplate / deck interface does move [plus temperature
> variations from summer to winter plus differing expansion properties] so
> would guess it would take more frequent maintenance.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Dennis
> C. via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 10, 2018 9:02 AM
> *To:* CnClist 
> *Cc:* Dennis C. 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Sealant for chainplates.
>
>
>
> I just re-bedded Touche's chain plates with Bed-It butyl tape.
>
>
>
> http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/butyl_tape
>
>
>
> Dennis C.
>
> Touche' 35-1 #83
>
> Mandeville, LA
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 7:18 AM, Glen Eddie via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Can someone with a 35 mkI or II let me know the sealant used at the deck
> when rebedding a chainplate.  4000?
>
>
>
> Your assistance is much appreciated.
> --
>
>
>
> *Glen Eddie*
>
> Tel: 416-777-5357
>
> Fax: 1-888-812-2557
>
> ged...@torkinmanes.com
>
> VCard 
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Sealant for chainplates.

[Schiller via CnC-List]

I wish I would have discovered butyl years ago.  I traditionally used life 
caulk and redid it when it looked like it needed.  My advice to C&C35-1 owners 
is to remove the teak cover off the cabin side of the upper shroud chain plate 
to look for leakage.

Neil Schiller
1983 C&C 35-3, #28
“Grace”
Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC

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> On Apr 10, 2018, at 7:54 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> In my opinion, the issue with many sealants is they "cure" or set.  So a 
> polyurethane or silicone sets and becomes less flexible.  Further, many of 
> those sealants do not adhere tenaciously to metal.
> 
> Butyl tape, on the other hand, remains sticky and pliable for a long, long 
> time.  That means it will flex with any movement in the hardware without 
> breaking the seal.
> 
> I still use LifeSeal for many applications where there is little potential 
> for movement.  But I'm switching to Butyl tape for bedding anything that may 
> flex.
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> 
>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Nauset Beach via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> I have to do the same thing, again.  Used Lifecaulk in August, 2015 and 
>> noticed last month one chainplate was damp, and the boat is still under its 
>> winter cover. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> The Maine Sail tape seems to be the favorite bedding material of the list.  
>> What is the “life expectancy” of a chainplate seal using this material in 
>> the wild?  For bedding hardware he shows examples of 29 years, but the 
>> rigging / chainplate / deck interface does move [plus temperature variations 
>> from summer to winter plus differing expansion properties] so would guess it 
>> would take more frequent maintenance.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Brian
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. 
>> via CnC-List
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 9:02 AM
>> To: CnClist 
>> Cc: Dennis C. 
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Sealant for chainplates.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I just re-bedded Touche's chain plates with Bed-It butyl tape.  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/butyl_tape
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Dennis C.
>> 
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>> 
>> Mandeville, LA
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 7:18 AM, Glen Eddie via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Can someone with a 35 mkI or II let me know the sealant used at the deck 
>> when rebedding a chainplate.  4000?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Your assistance is much appreciated.  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Glen Eddie
>> 
>> Tel: 416-777-5357
>> 
>> Fax: 1-888-812-2557
>> 
>> ged...@torkinmanes.com
>> 
>> VCard
>> 
>> 
>> Torkin Manes LLP
>> Barristers & Solicitors
>> 
>> 151 Yonge Street, Suite 1500
>> Toronto ON M5C 2W7
>> torkinmanes.com
>> 
>> An international member of Ally Law
>> 
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>> recipient(s) above and may contain content that is privileged, confidential 
>> and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received 
>> this message in error, please notify the sender and delete this email 
>> message. Thank you.
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Re: Stus-List Sealant for chainplates.

[Ed Dooley via CnC-List]

What about Polyethers? Flexible, adheres to plastics (3M 4000UV does anyway).
Here’s what West Marine says about them:  Polyether: One of the most exposure 
resistant sealants, unaffected by teak oils or cleaners, permanently flexible, 
and sandable. West Marine Multi-Caulk is an excellent choice for wood, metal, 
or fiberglass but will attack some plastics. However, 3M 4000UV 

 is rated as being safe for all plastics.
Ed




> 
> From: "Dennis C." 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Sealant for chainplates.
> Date: April 10, 2018 at 10:54:56 AM EDT
> To: CnClist 
> 
> 
> In my opinion, the issue with many sealants is they "cure" or set.  So a 
> polyurethane or silicone sets and becomes less flexible.  Further, many of 
> those sealants do not adhere tenaciously to metal.
> 
> Butyl tape, on the other hand, remains sticky and pliable for a long, long 
> time.  That means it will flex with any movement in the hardware without 
> breaking the seal.
> 
> I still use LifeSeal for many applications where there is little potential 
> for movement.  But I'm switching to Butyl tape for bedding anything that may 
> flex.
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> 
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Nauset Beach via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> I have to do the same thing, again.  Used Lifecaulk in August, 2015 and 
> noticed last month one chainplate was damp, and the boat is still under its 
> winter cover. 
> 
>  
> 
> The Maine Sail tape seems to be the favorite bedding material of the list.  
> What is the “life expectancy” of a chainplate seal using this material in the 
> wild?  For bedding hardware he shows examples of 29 years, but the rigging / 
> chainplate / deck interface does move [plus temperature variations from 
> summer to winter plus differing expansion properties] so would guess it would 
> take more frequent maintenance.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Brian
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Dennis C. via CnC-List
> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 9:02 AM
> To: CnClist mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
> Cc: Dennis C. mailto:capt...@gmail.com>>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Sealant for chainplates.
> 
>  
> 
> I just re-bedded Touche's chain plates with Bed-It butyl tape.  
> 
>  
> 
> http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/butyl_tape 
> 
>  
> 
> Dennis C.
> 
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> 
> Mandeville, LA
> 
>  
> 
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 7:18 AM, Glen Eddie via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> 
> Can someone with a 35 mkI or II let me know the sealant used at the deck when 
> rebedding a chainplate.  4000?
> 
>  
> 
> Your assistance is much appreciated.  
> 
>  
> 
> Glen Eddie
> 
> Tel: 416-777-5357
> 
> Fax: 1-888-812-2557
> 
> ged...@torkinmanes.com 
> VCard 
> 
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> 
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> From: Schiller 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Sealant for chainplates.
> Date: April 10, 2018 at 11:42:54 AM EDT
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> 
> 
> I wish I would have discovered butyl years ago.  I traditionally used life 
> caulk and redid it when it looked like it needed.  My advice to C&C35-1 
> owners is to remove the teak cover off the cabin side of the upper shroud 
> chain plate to look for leakage.
> 
> Neil Schiller
> 1983 C&C 35-3, #28
> “Grace”
> Whitehall, Michigan
> WLYC
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 10, 2018, at 7:54 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  > wrote:
> 
>> In my opinion, the issue with many sealants is they "cure" or set.  So a 
>> polyurethane or silicone sets and becomes less flexible.

Stus-List IPad Upgrade

[Sam Salter via CnC-List]

It’s about time to upgrade my iPad from the original model - nothing much works 
anymore!
I originally bought it, way back, to run iNavX using the internal GPS alone, 
independent of cell towers. Since the original model’s GPS was configured 
differently than current models, can someone confirm that any Wi-Fi + cellular 
model is the correct choice. (I believe the newer iPads use the cellular 
antenna as the GPS antenna, so buying the Wi-Fi only would not work?)

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Sam,

That's right.  The cell antenna is also the GPS antenna.  Or you can buy a
separate GPS dongle.
I just upgraded from a 3 to an Air 2.  Big difference in performance!

Joel

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cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> It’s about time to upgrade my iPad from the original model - nothing much
> works anymore!
> I originally bought it, way back, to run iNavX using the internal GPS
> alone, independent of cell towers. Since the original model’s GPS was
> configured differently than current models, can someone confirm that any
> Wi-Fi + cellular model is the correct choice. (I believe the newer iPads
> use the cellular antenna as the GPS antenna, so buying the Wi-Fi only would
> not work?)
>
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Thanks Joel - time to open my wallet!

Sam

> On Apr 10, 2018, at 11:39 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sam,
> 
> That's right.  The cell antenna is also the GPS antenna.  Or you can buy a 
> separate GPS dongle.
> I just upgraded from a 3 to an Air 2.  Big difference in performance!
> 
> Joel
> 
>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> It’s about time to upgrade my iPad from the original model - nothing much 
>> works anymore!
>> I originally bought it, way back, to run iNavX using the internal GPS alone, 
>> independent of cell towers. Since the original model’s GPS was configured 
>> differently than current models, can someone confirm that any Wi-Fi + 
>> cellular model is the correct choice. (I believe the newer iPads use the 
>> cellular antenna as the GPS antenna, so buying the Wi-Fi only would not 
>> work?)
>> 
>> Sam Salter
>> C&C 26  Liquorice
>> Ghost Lake  Alberta
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running Navionics ?

John Conklin


On Apr 10, 2018, at 1:39 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Sam,

That's right.  The cell antenna is also the GPS antenna.  Or you can buy a 
separate GPS dongle.
I just upgraded from a 3 to an Air 2.  Big difference in performance!

Joel

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
It’s about time to upgrade my iPad from the original model - nothing much works 
anymore!
I originally bought it, way back, to run iNavX using the internal GPS alone, 
independent of cell towers. Since the original model’s GPS was configured 
differently than current models, can someone confirm that any Wi-Fi + cellular 
model is the correct choice. (I believe the newer iPads use the cellular 
antenna as the GPS antenna, so buying the Wi-Fi only would not work?)

Sam Salter
C&C 26  Liquorice
Ghost Lake  Alberta
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I assumed I would carry on with iNavX!
Not really thought about changing.

sam

> On Apr 10, 2018, at 12:09 PM, John Conklin via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> running Navionics ?
> 
> John Conklin 
> 
> 
> On Apr 10, 2018, at 1:39 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Sam,
>> 
>> That's right.  The cell antenna is also the GPS antenna.  Or you can buy a 
>> separate GPS dongle.
>> I just upgraded from a 3 to an Air 2.  Big difference in performance!
>> 
>> Joel
>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> It’s about time to upgrade my iPad from the original model - nothing much 
>>> works anymore!
>>> I originally bought it, way back, to run iNavX using the internal GPS 
>>> alone, independent of cell towers. Since the original model’s GPS was 
>>> configured differently than current models, can someone confirm that any 
>>> Wi-Fi + cellular model is the correct choice. (I believe the newer iPads 
>>> use the cellular antenna as the GPS antenna, so buying the Wi-Fi only would 
>>> not work?)
>>> 
>>> Sam Salter
>>> C&C 26  Liquorice
>>> Ghost Lake  Alberta
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Re: Stus-List Solar day/night fans - things you need to know

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

I had installed two of the 20703 fans on the top of my dorade boxes (as replacements for the cowl vents that kept jumping overboard). The diameter of the fans overhung the sides of the dorade boxes a bit, and both were snagged and destroyed by flogging sheets during my  voyage to Bermuda last year. That was the prime reason I removed the dorade boxes and mounted the new fans on the cabin top.I will say that in several months of sailing over last fall and winter, I had no problem with the sheets snagging on the 20703 mounted on the deck, though I can see it might be possible if the sheets were smaller than the 7/16th diameter sheets I use for my genoa.Rick-Original Message-
From: "Dennis C. via CnC-List" 
Sent: Apr 10, 2018 9:12 AM
To: CnClist 
Cc: "Dennis C." 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Solar day/night fans - things you need to know

Rick,You went into a lot more detail.  Good job.  Your post was better at explaining what I had seen about the 20803 vs the 20703 and the fitment issues with the 20803.  Both have fairly vertical sides for catching lines.By "new" Nicro, I meant the 20703 as opposed to the old Nicro that's been gone for several years.  This was the old one:http://www.marinemechanic.com/New-Folder2/solarvent.htmlThe old Nicro fans never caught lines.Dennis C.On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:39 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List  wrote:Dennis, et al; Having installed both the Day/Night model N20703 (last fall) and N20803 (just last week) on Imzadi, I have a couple of observations. I’ve replaced my dorade boxes with these fans. The Day/Night Plus N20703 was a pretty simple installation. The main difficulty was enlarging the 3” diameter hole in the deck to fit the larger diameter of the fan. The mounting plate screws to the deck, and the fan itself screws to the mounting plate. So it is a pretty  robust installation. There is a trim ring included for installation inside the headliner, but I just enlarged the hole in the white Lexan panels that covered where my dorades came through the ceiling. (BTW, you refer to the Day/Night Plus as the “new” Nicro. They’ve actually been available for a couple of years snow.) The new N20803 fan is larger in diameter overall, stands higher off the deck, and needs a significantly larger hole through the deck. Installation was, consequentially, much more difficult. Installation is by a trim ring that the fan screws into with an O-ring seal between the upper trim ring and the fan (there are two neoprene seals between the fan and the deck), and a lower trim ring that screws onto the output of the fan and is supposed to snug up to the headliner. The minimum spacing of the two rings is 3”, and the deck/headliner of my 38 above the head is only 2” thick, so I had to modify both trim rings to get them to screw into place. The light on the N20803 is a nice feature, and the access to the battery is easier if it needs replacing. And you can switch from intake to exhaust by flipping a small switch on the light housing rather than changing the fan blades. The assembly  seems pretty  robust. I suspect that you are correct about sheets hanging up on the fan, but my fans are between the “islands” on the cabin top for mounting winches and cleats, so that is probably not a real problem for me… certainly they are a lot less likely to capture sheets than the old dorade boxes and cowl vents. Unfortunately, the housing that holds the lights and switches seem to have cut down on the amount of air being moved. My two fans are about 3 feet apart, and the Day/Night Plus N20703 is moving noticeably more air. Also unfortunately, while the Day/Night Plus N20703 and 4 are in the on-line Marineco listing of vent fans, they are no longer in the Marineco catalog. And West Marine told me they are being replaced by the N20803 and 4. In hindsight, I wish I had done a little more research and bought a second Day/Night Plus fan from Amazon. Rick BrassWashington, NC   


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Stus-List Raymarine Product Testing

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

I found this on the Raymarine web site, for anyone who might be interested:

Would you like to become a Raymarine Product Tester?

If you own an Axiom, eS or gS MFD, you can apply to become a Raymarine
Product Tester which will enable you to influence new features which you
will be able to preview & test before they become available to the market.
To register your interest, please click here and complete the survey found
*HERE* . You will then
be contacted by Raymarine’s ‘Global Field Trials Facilitator’ via email who
will provide you with some more information. Please be aware that
successful applicants will be required to sign a confidentiality agreement
to enable you to participate. Thank you for your time and we look forward
to your input.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR
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Re: Stus-List Sealant for chain plates.

[John and Maryann Read via CnC-List]

Butyl it is and never look back.  Had similar issues of leakage and redid all 
chain plates with butyl and nary a drop since then.   Biggest issue is the 
movement of the chain plate through the deck.  When you apply the sealant 
everything is at rest.  When the shrouds are torqued to spec, there is a 
significant upward movement of the chain plate vis a vis the deck.  Add to that 
the movement and cycling caused by tacking, and the upward movement gets to be 
significant to the point that sealants just will not adhere to the stainless 
bar.  The exception is butyl but it must be contained by the deck plate around 
the stainless bar.

 

My 2 cents American

 

John and Maryann

Legacy III

1982 C&C 34

Noank, CT

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ed Dooley 
via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 12:11 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Ed Dooley
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sealant for chainplates.

 

What about Polyethers? Flexible, adheres to plastics (3M 4000UV does anyway).

Here’s what West Marine says about them:  Polyether: One of the most exposure 
resistant sealants, unaffected by teak oils or cleaners, permanently flexible, 
and sandable. West Marine Multi-Caulk is an excellent choice for wood, metal, 
or fiberglass but will attack some plastics. However, 3M 4000UV 

  is rated as being safe for all plastics.

Ed

 

 

 

 

 

From: "Dennis C." 

Subject: Re: Stus-List Sealant for chainplates.

Date: April 10, 2018 at 10:54:56 AM EDT

To: CnClist 

 

In my opinion, the issue with many sealants is they "cure" or set.  So a 
polyurethane or silicone sets and becomes less flexible.  Further, many of 
those sealants do not adhere tenaciously to metal.

 

Butyl tape, on the other hand, remains sticky and pliable for a long, long 
time.  That means it will flex with any movement in the hardware without 
breaking the seal.

 

I still use LifeSeal for many applications where there is little potential for 
movement.  But I'm switching to Butyl tape for bedding anything that may flex.

 

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

 

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Nauset Beach via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I have to do the same thing, again.  Used Lifecaulk in August, 2015 and noticed 
last month one chainplate was damp, and the boat is still under its winter 
cover.  

 

The Maine Sail tape seems to be the favorite bedding material of the list.  
What is the “life expectancy” of a chainplate seal using this material in the 
wild?  For bedding hardware he shows examples of 29 years, but the rigging / 
chainplate / deck interface does move [plus temperature variations from summer 
to winter plus differing expansion properties] so would guess it would take 
more frequent maintenance. 

 

Thanks,

Brian

 

 

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via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 9:02 AM
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sealant for chainplates.

 

I just re-bedded Touche's chain plates with Bed-It butyl tape.  

 

http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/butyl_tape

 

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

 

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 7:18 AM, Glen Eddie via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Can someone with a 35 mkI or II let me know the sealant used at the deck when 
rebedding a chainplate.  4000? 

 

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From: Schiller 

Subject: Re: Stus-List Sealant for chainplates.

Date: April 10, 2018 at 11:42:54 AM EDT

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

 

I wish I would have discovered butyl years ago.  I traditionally used life 
caulk and redid it when it looked like it needed.  My advice to C&C35-1 owners 
is to remove 

Re: Stus-List IPad Upgrade

[Paul Fountain via CnC-List]

Or get a bad elf gps for lightening connector 

Paul

From: CnC-List  on behalf of Sam Salter via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 1:51:07 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Sam Salter
Subject: Re: Stus-List IPad Upgrade

Thanks Joel - time to open my wallet!

Sam

On Apr 10, 2018, at 11:39 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Sam,

That's right.  The cell antenna is also the GPS antenna.  Or you can buy a 
separate GPS dongle.
I just upgraded from a 3 to an Air 2.  Big difference in performance!

Joel

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
It’s about time to upgrade my iPad from the original model - nothing much works 
anymore!
I originally bought it, way back, to run iNavX using the internal GPS alone, 
independent of cell towers. Since the original model’s GPS was configured 
differently than current models, can someone confirm that any Wi-Fi + cellular 
model is the correct choice. (I believe the newer iPads use the cellular 
antenna as the GPS antenna, so buying the Wi-Fi only would not work?)

Sam Salter
C&C 26  Liquorice
Ghost Lake  Alberta
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Re: Stus-List Sealant for chain plates.

[Gary Russell via CnC-List]

I agree with all who recommend butyl tape.  However, they forgot a few
additional benefits.

!.  It's the product used by C&C when they built our boats.
2. It's removable.
3  It's less expensive than all the other sealants.
4. A roll will last you for years.

Gary
S/V Kaylarah
'90 C&C 37+
East Greenwich, RI, USA

~~~_/)~~


On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 8:15 PM, John and Maryann Read via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Butyl it is and never look back.  Had similar issues of leakage and redid
> all chain plates with butyl and nary a drop since then.   Biggest issue is
> the movement of the chain plate through the deck.  When you apply the
> sealant everything is at rest.  When the shrouds are torqued to spec, there
> is a significant upward movement of the chain plate vis a vis the deck.
> Add to that the movement and cycling caused by tacking, and the upward
> movement gets to be significant to the point that sealants just will not
> adhere to the stainless bar.  The exception is butyl but it must be
> contained by the deck plate around the stainless bar.
>
>
>
> My 2 cents American
>
>
>
> John and Maryann
>
> Legacy III
>
> 1982 C&C 34
>
> Noank, CT
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Ed
> Dooley via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 10, 2018 12:11 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Ed Dooley
>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Sealant for chainplates.
>
>
>
> What about Polyethers? Flexible, adheres to plastics (3M 4000UV does
> anyway).
>
> Here’s what West Marine says about them:  *Polyether:* One of the most
> exposure resistant sealants, unaffected by teak oils or cleaners,
> permanently flexible, and sandable. West Marine Multi-Caulk is an excellent
> choice for wood, metal, or fiberglass but will attack some plastics.
> However, 3M 4000UV
> 
> is rated as being safe for all plastics.
>
> Ed
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *"Dennis C." 
>
> *Subject: Re: Stus-List Sealant for chainplates.*
>
> *Date: *April 10, 2018 at 10:54:56 AM EDT
>
> *To: *CnClist 
>
>
>
> In my opinion, the issue with many sealants is they "cure" or set.  So a
> polyurethane or silicone sets and becomes less flexible.  Further, many of
> those sealants do not adhere tenaciously to metal.
>
>
>
> Butyl tape, on the other hand, remains sticky and pliable for a long, long
> time.  That means it will flex with any movement in the hardware without
> breaking the seal.
>
>
>
> I still use LifeSeal for many applications where there is little potential
> for movement.  But I'm switching to Butyl tape for bedding anything that
> may flex.
>
>
>
> Dennis C.
>
> Touche' 35-1 #83
>
> Mandeville, LA
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Nauset Beach via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I have to do the same thing, again.  Used Lifecaulk in August, 2015 and
> noticed last month one chainplate was damp, and the boat is still under its
> winter cover.
>
>
>
> The Maine Sail tape seems to be the favorite bedding material of the
> list.  What is the “life expectancy” of a chainplate seal using this
> material in the wild?  For bedding hardware he shows examples of 29 years,
> but the rigging / chainplate / deck interface does move [plus temperature
> variations from summer to winter plus differing expansion properties] so
> would guess it would take more frequent maintenance.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Dennis
> C. via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 10, 2018 9:02 AM
> *To:* CnClist 
> *Cc:* Dennis C. 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Sealant for chainplates.
>
>
>
> I just re-bedded Touche's chain plates with Bed-It butyl tape.
>
>
>
> http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/butyl_tape
>
>
>
> Dennis C.
>
> Touche' 35-1 #83
>
> Mandeville, LA
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 7:18 AM, Glen Eddie via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Can someone with a 35 mkI or II let me know the sealant used at the deck
> when rebedding a chainplate.  4000?
>
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Stus-List iPad upgrade

[Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List]

There is also a nifty Dual Bluetooth GPS puck that’s pretty sweet too.

http://www.mypilotstore.com/MyPilotStore/sep/8364?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI3M-WroCx2gIVD7jACh32tgzzEAQYASABEgJiXPD_BwE

Much better than the built in GOS capability.  Also eliminated the need for 
wireless cell chip.

Tom B

Typoed from my iPhone

Tom Buscaglia
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> On Apr 10, 2018, at 5:37 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
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> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 00:20:10 +
> From: Paul Fountain 
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List IPad Upgrade
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> Or get a bad elf gps for lightening connector 
> 
> Paul
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Re: Stus-List IPad Upgrade

[Kevin Benoit via CnC-List]

The Navionics app works well on my IPad Pro w cell data.   Also flawless
using only GPS antenna but only for charting, the marina and attraction
guides obviously don’t work.

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 7:20 PM Paul Fountain via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Or get a bad elf gps for lightening connector 
>
> Paul
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> *From:* CnC-List  on behalf of Sam Salter
> via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 10, 2018 1:51:07 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Sam Salter
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List IPad Upgrade
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> Thanks Joel - time to open my wallet!
>
> Sam
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> On Apr 10, 2018, at 11:39 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
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> Sam,
>
> That's right.  The cell antenna is also the GPS antenna.  Or you can buy a
> separate GPS dongle.
> I just upgraded from a 3 to an Air 2.  Big difference in performance!
>
> Joel
>
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> It’s about time to upgrade my iPad from the original model - nothing much
>> works anymore!
>> I originally bought it, way back, to run iNavX using the internal GPS
>> alone, independent of cell towers. Since the original model’s GPS was
>> configured differently than current models, can someone confirm that any
>> Wi-Fi + cellular model is the correct choice. (I believe the newer iPads
>> use the cellular antenna as the GPS antenna, so buying the Wi-Fi only would
>> not work?)
>>
>> Sam Salter
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Stus-List Mast step stringers

[Brian Fry via CnC-List]

1993 37/40.
Redoing the rod rigging, mast is down. Removed the aluminum mast step to
media blast and powder coat.
There are three `stringers` the mast step sits on. The forward and aft
stringers,which the step is bolted to, are bulging. Tapping on them reveals
a delamination inside.
I am thinking this is caused by forces from the adjustable mast crushing
the laminate wood inside. The bay this is in is too high to be caused by
water intrusion.
Anyone else experiencing this?
The plan is to drill holes and inject epoxy, then bolt on a suupport piece
of 1/2" aluminum across the face, bolted into the solid parts of the
stringer.
Any input is welcome.

S/V La Neige
1993 C&C 37/40 XL
Havre de Grace , MD
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Brian and Manon
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