Re: Stus-List question about a C&C 30 mkii keel

2017-09-23 Thread Jim Reinardy via CnC-List







When I owned a Catalina 27, the email list for that boat talked 
a lot about the “Catalina smile”.  It’s not unique to C&C.
Jim ReinardyC&C 30-2 “Firewater”Milwaukee




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On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 7:08 AM -0500, "Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List" 
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I don’t know the model, but the “C&C smile” is commonplace.  They 
did not do a great job mating the keel and fiberglass at the joint.
 
Anyone know this particular model? 


 

From: Lisle Kingery, PhD via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 7:37 PM
To: CnC-List@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Lisle Kingery, PhD 
Subject: Stus-List question about a C&C 30 mkii 
keel
 

Hi all, 
 
More questions from an aspiring C&C owner. :)
 
I'm considering this 1987 C&C 30mkii and overall it looks interesting. 

 
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1987/C%26C-30-3079275/Rochester/NY/United-States#.WcRLTWiPJPY

 
I'm stuck with a draft of 5 or under where I'll be keeping the eventual 
sailboat I get and this is the only wing keel version I see available at least 
reasonably nearby. 
 
I have a question about what appears to be at least a surface crack along 
the middle of the keel that goes pretty much the entire length of the keel. 

 
I've pasted the picture into the email below but not sure if that is going 
to show up on the listserv. 
 
If not, if anyone familiar with this model in particular could let me know 
if you could take a quick look at the picture and provide an opinion on normal 
vs. abnormal I could email pics. Thanks for your consideration.
 
Lisle
 






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Re: Stus-List question about a C&C 30 mkii keel

2017-09-23 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
The “smile” isn’t that uncommon, nor is it exclusive to C&C boats. I’ve seen it 
on a Ranger 26, a couple of Newports, and older Beneteau…

 

The problem is not the “job” mating the keel to the stub. The problem is that 
the joint flexes as the boat heels (the thin layer of sealant between the 
surfaces lets a little flex happen), and over time the torque will ease off and 
allow the cracks in the fairing compound or paint at the edges of the joint.  
If you retorque the nuts every 4 or 5 years, the cosmetic impacts seem to go 
away – or at least be quite minimal.

 

The Ranger 26, BTW, was bought by the son of a friend. When we went to do the 
bottom, we discovered the crack… and then found out that the keel was actually 
held in place by capscrews screwed into the top of the keel from inside the 
boat. Which really looked to me to be a good way to lose the keel if you didn’t 
tighten the bolts regularly.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

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Wolford via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 8:40 AM
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Cc: Matthew L. Wolford 
Subject: Re: Stus-List question about a C&C 30 mkii keel

 

I don’t know the model, but the “C&C smile” is commonplace.  They did not do a 
great job mating the keel and fiberglass at the joint.

 

Anyone know this particular model? 

 

 

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Re: Stus-List MIT's C&C custom 43 X Dimension available for free

2017-09-23 Thread David via CnC-List
I know the donating owner.   Very much the engineer.  Not surprising.



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 Original message 
From: Lee Youngblood via CnC-List 
Date: 9/22/17 8:28 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: CnC-List 
Cc: Lee Youngblood 
Subject: Re: Stus-List MIT's C&C custom 43 X Dimension available for free

Hi All,
I may be on the west coast, but check out the MIT/X Dimension wiki - as a 
broker, I’ve never seen this much info, from an owner on their boat:  
http://sailing.mit.edu/wiki/index.php/Systems_Descriptions#Anchors

Wow, Lee


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Stus-List Keel bolt torque w/multiplier

2017-09-23 Thread ssjohnson via CnC-List
I was seeking a more efficient way to torque the keel bolts and found a 
multiplier on Amazon for $60...I thought it might be worth a try.   It multiies 
59:1.  So, for 300 ft lbs that MIGHT men about 5 gr8 lbs.  I did have to 
purchase some adapting sockets to match it's 1" drive,  but still cheaper than 
renting or having the yard doitThis multiplier kit was really intended for 
truck tires.  It does not have a gauge. So, am I full of beans???  Am I fooling 
myself that this is doing what I want it to do?  I suppose I will know more 
when Alegria gets pulled in a few weeks..Thoughts?
Torque Multiplier Heavy-Duty Lug Wrench Replaces 1" Air Impact - WARRANTY 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H99Y556/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_BzSXzbRA2PF8T
Spencer johnson '84 Landfall 38 #165  "Alegria "Racine,  wi___

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Re: Stus-List Surveyor – Sarnia Ontario area

2017-09-23 Thread John McKay via CnC-List
Marty Cole in Point EdwardGil Fleming in SarniaCaptain Yachting Service, Sarnia 
or Point EdwardUsed Gil for my first C&CUsing Marty for an insurance 
appraisalWhat's the boat name this time?
John on Enterprise (docked in Sarnia)
 

On Friday, September 22, 2017 3:33 PM, John via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 

 You can try Peter McGuire. He goes thru EVERYTHING, and knows C&C's
Contact:
Peter H McGuire SAMS AMS Fastnet Yacht Surveys Limited 99 Farningham 
CrescentToronto, M9B 3B8Ontario(416) 239 5782 (o) / (416) 809 2186 
(m)http://www.marinesurveyor.com/fastnet

/J
On Sep 1, 2017, at 3:56 PM, Sean Richardson  wrote:


I’m taking a run at another boat and may be in need of areputable surveyor in 
the Sarnia Ontario area. Any listers around there thatknow of a good surveyor I 
can contact? I haven’t seen the boat yet as it’s a good 7-8 hour drivefrom me 
and paying a surveyor for a proper report and saving me a trip would bewell 
worth it I think. Also looking for transport services within Ontario if 
anyonewould like to share their experiences and recommendations. SeanLYNXC&C 27 
MKIII
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Re: Stus-List Keel bolt torque w/multiplier

2017-09-23 Thread Rick Rohwer via CnC-List
I used a multiplier on a transmission bolt and literally twisted it off the 
truck.  The torque it supplies is real, so treat it with respect. 
> On Sep 23, 2017, at 1:42 PM, ssjohnson via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I was seeking a more efficient way to torque the keel bolts and found a 
> multiplier on Amazon for $60...I thought it might be worth a try.   It 
> multiies 59:1.  So, for 300 ft lbs that MIGHT men about 5 gr8 lbs.  I did 
> have to purchase some adapting sockets to match it's 1" drive,  but still 
> cheaper than renting or having the yard doit
> This multiplier kit was really intended for truck tires.  It does not have a 
> gauge. 
> So, am I full of beans???  Am I fooling myself that this is doing what I want 
> it to do?  I suppose I will know more when Alegria gets pulled in a few 
> weeks..
> Thoughts?
> 
> Torque Multiplier Heavy-Duty Lug Wrench Replaces 1" Air Impact - WARRANTY 
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H99Y556/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_BzSXzbRA2PF8T
> 
> Spencer johnson 
> '84 Landfall 38 #165  "Alegria "
> Racine,  wi
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> to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to:  
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2017-09-23 Thread Eugene Fodor via CnC-List

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