Re: Stus-List Closed the deal

[T power via CnC-List]

Congrats, lots of fond memories ahead


Tom Power
Invictus
C&C 30 MK1
Fredericton, NB

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Sent: Friday, September 1, 2017 10:21 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: schiller
Subject: Stus-List Closed the deal

We are the proud new owners of a 1983 C&C 35, Mark III (ZCC35028M83H).  Closed 
the deal on it and took position this afternoon.  We will move it up from 
Muskegon to White Lake tomorrow, back home to Crosswinds Marina in Whitehall.

We'll have about 4 weeks to familiarize ourselves with her before time to haul 
and store for the winter.  I still need to pick up the cradle and winter cover 
before the end of the month.

If any of the C&C 35, Mark I owners are interested in a winter cover, please 
let me know.  I had Whitelake Canvas make me a cover last year and now I have 
no Mark I to cover.  This cover goes to the toe rail and is fitted to go around 
the stanchions and shrouds.  I have a picture or two of it if interested.  Make 
me an offer.

Neil Schiller
1983 C&C 35, Mark III, Hull #28
"Grace"
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Re: Stus-List Closed the deal

[bushmark4--- via CnC-List]

 Neil, Congrats on a great boat!  I would be interested in your views of how 
this boat meets your needs as compared to your former boat; sailing 
characteristics, handling, cruising capabilities, overall use and 
enjoyments...?  I know that it will take some time to learn and determine all 
of these things, but you are in a unique position to see how C&C progressed 
from an earlier model to a later model... thanks

 


Richard
s/v Bushmark4; 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 584.4
Richard N. Bush
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255

 

 

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Sent: Fri, Sep 1, 2017 9:23 pm
Subject: Stus-List Closed the deal


We are the proud new owners of a 1983 C&C 35,  Mark III (ZCC35028M83H). 
 Closed the deal on it and took position  this afternoon.  We will move it 
up from Muskegon to White Lake  tomorrow, back home to Crosswinds Marina in 
Whitehall.
  
  We'll have about 4 weeks to familiarize ourselves with her before  
time to haul and store for the winter.  I still need to pick up  the cradle 
and winter cover before the end of the month.
  
  If any of the C&C 35, Mark I owners are interested in a winter cover, 
please let  me know.  I had Whitelake Canvas make me a cover last year and 
now  I have no Mark I to cover.  This cover goes to the toe rail and is 
 fitted to go around the stanchions and shrouds.  I have a picture  or two 
of it if interested.  Make me an offer.
  
  Neil Schiller
  1983 C&C 35, Mark III, Hull #28
  "Grace"
  
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Stus-List 30-2 height

[Chad Osmond via CnC-List]

Anyone know the height of a 30-2 on a cradle, or keel to highest point with
the mast removed?

We are considering storing indoors this year and need to see if it will fit
through the doors.

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Re: Stus-List 30-2 height

[robert via CnC-List]

Chad:

The height of a boat from the bottom of the keel to the top coach roof 
and pulpits (bow and stern) will remain constant, however, the height of 
any cradle will be the variable.   And if you are talking 'inches' 
through the doors, that can be the determining factor.


Put your boat on the cradle and measure from the top of the bow pulpit 
to the ground.if that measurement fits the door(s), you are probably in.


Sorry I can't be more precise.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


On 2017-09-02 11:18 AM, Chad Osmond via CnC-List wrote:
Anyone know the height of a 30-2 on a cradle, or keel to highest point 
with the mast removed?


We are considering storing indoors this year and need to see if it 
will fit through the doors.


Thanks,


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Re: Stus-List 30-2 height

[Rick Taillieu via CnC-List]

Fin keel or wing keel?

That will make a difference of 1¼ ft.

 

 

Rick Taillieu

Still boatless

Leamington, Ontario

 

 

 

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Sent: September-02-17 10:50
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: robert
Subject: Re: Stus-List 30-2 height

 

Chad:

The height of a boat from the bottom of the keel to the top coach roof and
pulpits (bow and stern) will remain constant, however, the height of any
cradle will be the variable.   And if you are talking 'inches' through the
doors, that can be the determining factor.

Put your boat on the cradle and measure from the top of the bow pulpit to
the ground.if that measurement fits the door(s), you are probably in.

Sorry I can't be more precise.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.



On 2017-09-02 11:18 AM, Chad Osmond via CnC-List wrote:

Anyone know the height of a 30-2 on a cradle, or keel to highest point with
the mast removed? 

 

We are considering storing indoors this year and need to see if it will fit
through the doors.

 

Thanks,






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Re: Stus-List Surveyor ? Sarnia Ontario area

[Sean Richardson via CnC-List]

Thanks Tom,

I was just browsing your flickr feed. Beautiful boat and home port
location. Love that dodger too.

Sean


On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 7:27 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Sean
>
> I'll second that.  Andrews, home-based in Niagara on the Lake was built on
> distributing C&C boats throughout north America,  I suspect that 80% or
> more of C&C;s not on Lake Ontario or Erie were originally delivered by
> Andrews.  I trusted them bringing Alera from NotL to Seattle and they did a
> great job.  Just don;t ask for a delivery any time near the Toronto boat
> show because all their truck are booked for a month or so for that event.
>
> http://www.andrewstrucking.com/
>
> Gert Tiel did my survey.  Not sure he is anywhere near your target boat.
> His survey was not at all detailed.  But I was so in love at the time that
> I just didn't  care. And I figured that after building a few thousand C&C,
> Gert coul d pretty much spot anything serious.  This site might come in
> handy if you're looking for on in Ontario. http://www.pcmarinesurveys.com
> /Every%20Marine%20Surveyor%20In%20Ontario.htm
>
> GL
>
> Tom B
>
> Tom Buscaglia
> SV Alera
> 1990 C&C 37+/40
> Vashon Island WA
> (206) 463-9200
> www.sv-alera.com
>
> --
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 15:56:44 -0400
> From: Sean Richardson 
> To: CnC-List 
> Subject: Stus-List Surveyor ? Sarnia Ontario area
> Message-ID:
>   ail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> I?m taking a run at another boat and may be in need of a reputable surveyor
> in the Sarnia Ontario area. Any listers around there that know of a good
> surveyor I can contact?
>
>
>
> I haven?t seen the boat yet as it?s a good 7-8 hour drive from me and
> paying a surveyor for a proper report and saving me a trip would be well
> worth it I think.
>
>
>
> Also looking for transport services within Ontario if anyone would like to
> share their experiences and recommendations.
>
>
>
> Sean
>
> LYNX
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> To: Sean Richardson via CnC-List 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Surveyor ? Sarnia Ontario area
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> Most reputable: Andrew?s transport ( http://www.andrewstrucking.com/).
> They are not the cheapest.
>
>
> 
>
> Tom Buscaglia
> SV Alera
> 1990 C&C 37+/40
> Vashon Island WA
> (206) 463-9200
> www.sv-alera.com
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Re: Stus-List Whereabouts???

[Leslie Paal via CnC-List]

traveling around in Europe, no sail boat rides so far

Leslie.


On Fri, 9/1/17, Dave Godwin via CnC-List  wrote:

 Subject: Re: Stus-List Whereabouts???
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Cc: "Dave Godwin" 
 Date: Friday, September 1, 2017, 2:24 PM
 
 Sitting
 in my shed with a beer looking at the hundreds of boat parts
 strewn about?  :-)
 Dave
 
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Re: Stus-List 30-2 height

[Chad Osmond via CnC-List]

Full keel, I know that the cradle is 6" from the bottom to the board the
keel sits on so I will try and measure in water.

I will just measure to the water line, add 5'8" and a few spare inches I
guess.


On Sep 2, 2017 11:00 AM, "Rick Taillieu via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Fin keel or wing keel?
>
> That will make a difference of 1¼ ft.
>
>
>
>
>
> Rick Taillieu
>
> Still boatless
>
> Leamington, Ontario
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *robert
> via CnC-List
> *Sent:* September-02-17 10:50
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* robert
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 30-2 height
>
>
>
> Chad:
>
> The height of a boat from the bottom of the keel to the top coach roof and
> pulpits (bow and stern) will remain constant, however, the height of any
> cradle will be the variable.   And if you are talking 'inches' through the
> doors, that can be the determining factor.
>
> Put your boat on the cradle and measure from the top of the bow pulpit to
> the ground.if that measurement fits the door(s), you are probably in.
>
> Sorry I can't be more precise.
>
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C&C 32 - 84
> Halifax, N.S.
>
> On 2017-09-02 11:18 AM, Chad Osmond via CnC-List wrote:
>
> Anyone know the height of a 30-2 on a cradle, or keel to highest point
> with the mast removed?
>
>
>
> We are considering storing indoors this year and need to see if it will
> fit through the doors.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Surveyor ? Sarnia Ontario area

[John via CnC-List]

Can you please post the link, looking to have a new dodger instilled. Thinking 
about having a permanent one made. 

Thanks

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 2, 2017, at 11:03 AM, Sean Richardson via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Tom,
> 
> I was just browsing your flickr feed. Beautiful boat and home port location. 
> Love that dodger too.
> 
> Sean
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 7:27 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Sean
>> 
>> I'll second that.  Andrews, home-based in Niagara on the Lake was built on 
>> distributing C&C boats throughout north America,  I suspect that 80% or more 
>> of C&C;s not on Lake Ontario or Erie were originally delivered by Andrews.  
>> I trusted them bringing Alera from NotL to Seattle and they did a great job. 
>>  Just don;t ask for a delivery any time near the Toronto boat show because 
>> all their truck are booked for a month or so for that event.
>> 
>> http://www.andrewstrucking.com/
>> 
>> Gert Tiel did my survey.  Not sure he is anywhere near your target boat.  
>> His survey was not at all detailed.  But I was so in love at the time that I 
>> just didn't  care. And I figured that after building a few thousand C&C, 
>> Gert coul d pretty much spot anything serious.  This site might come in 
>> handy if you're looking for on in Ontario. 
>> http://www.pcmarinesurveys.com/Every%20Marine%20Surveyor%20In%20Ontario.htm 
>> 
>> GL
>> 
>> Tom B
>> 
>> Tom Buscaglia
>> SV Alera
>> 1990 C&C 37+/40
>> Vashon Island WA
>> (206) 463-9200
>> www.sv-alera.com
>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 15:56:44 -0400
>>> From: Sean Richardson 
>>> To: CnC-List 
>>> Subject: Stus-List Surveyor ? Sarnia Ontario area
>>> Message-ID:
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>> 
>>> I?m taking a run at another boat and may be in need of a reputable surveyor
>>> in the Sarnia Ontario area. Any listers around there that know of a good
>>> surveyor I can contact?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I haven?t seen the boat yet as it?s a good 7-8 hour drive from me and
>>> paying a surveyor for a proper report and saving me a trip would be well
>>> worth it I think.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Also looking for transport services within Ontario if anyone would like to
>>> share their experiences and recommendations.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sean
>>> 
>>> LYNX
>>> 
>>> C&C 27 MKIII
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>>> Message: 6
>>> Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 20:40:18 +
>>> From: Marek Dziedzic 
>>> To: Sean Richardson via CnC-List 
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Surveyor ? Sarnia Ontario area
>>> Message-ID:
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>>> 
>>> Most reputable: Andrew?s transport ( http://www.andrewstrucking.com/). They 
>>> are not the cheapest.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> Tom Buscaglia
>> SV Alera
>> 1990 C&C 37+/40
>> Vashon Island WA
>> (206) 463-9200
>> www.sv-alera.com
>> 
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Surveyor ? Sarnia Ontario area

[Sean Richardson via CnC-List]

There's a link in Toms signature and at the bottom of that homepage there's
a link to the Flickr site

http://www.sv-alera.com/

On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 13:17 John via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Can you please post the link, looking to have a new dodger instilled.
> Thinking about having a permanent one made.
>
> Thanks
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 2, 2017, at 11:03 AM, Sean Richardson via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Tom,
>
> I was just browsing your flickr feed. Beautiful boat and home port
> location. Love that dodger too.
>
> Sean
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 7:27 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Sean
>>
>> I'll second that.  Andrews, home-based in Niagara on the Lake was built
>> on distributing C&C boats throughout north America,  I suspect that 80% or
>> more of C&C;s not on Lake Ontario or Erie were originally delivered by
>> Andrews.  I trusted them bringing Alera from NotL to Seattle and they did a
>> great job.  Just don;t ask for a delivery any time near the Toronto boat
>> show because all their truck are booked for a month or so for that event.
>>
>> http://www.andrewstrucking.com/
>>
>> Gert Tiel did my survey.  Not sure he is anywhere near your target boat.
>> His survey was not at all detailed.  But I was so in love at the time that
>> I just didn't  care. And I figured that after building a few thousand C&C,
>> Gert coul d pretty much spot anything serious.  This site might come in
>> handy if you're looking for on in Ontario.
>> http://www.pcmarinesurveys.com/Every%20Marine%20Surveyor%20In%20Ontario.htm
>>
>> GL
>>
>> Tom B
>>
>> Tom Buscaglia
>> SV Alera
>> 1990 C&C 37+/40
>> Vashon Island WA
>> (206) 463-9200
>> www.sv-alera.com
>>
>> --
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 15:56:44 -0400
>> From: Sean Richardson 
>> To: CnC-List 
>> Subject: Stus-List Surveyor ? Sarnia Ontario area
>> Message-ID:
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>> canq8v6rvvxqu0tcsgnl8ev3qcjowfiszbo3cdw2pp6dtsit...@mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> I?m taking a run at another boat and may be in need of a reputable
>> surveyor
>> in the Sarnia Ontario area. Any listers around there that know of a good
>> surveyor I can contact?
>>
>>
>>
>> I haven?t seen the boat yet as it?s a good 7-8 hour drive from me and
>> paying a surveyor for a proper report and saving me a trip would be well
>> worth it I think.
>>
>>
>>
>> Also looking for transport services within Ontario if anyone would like to
>> share their experiences and recommendations.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sean
>>
>> LYNX
>>
>> C&C 27 MKIII
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>> From: Marek Dziedzic 
>> To: Sean Richardson via CnC-List 
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Surveyor ? Sarnia Ontario area
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>>
>> Most reputable: Andrew?s transport ( http://www.andrewstrucking.com/).
>> They are not the cheapest.
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> Tom Buscaglia
>> SV Alera
>> 1990 C&C 37+/40
>> Vashon Island WA
>> (206) 463-9200
>> www.sv-alera.com
>>
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Re: Stus-List Surveyor ? Sarnia Ontario area

[John via CnC-List]

Thank you. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 2, 2017, at 8:19 PM, Sean Richardson via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> There's a link in Toms signature and at the bottom of that homepage there's a 
> link to the Flickr site
> 
> http://www.sv-alera.com/
> 
>> On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 13:17 John via CnC-List  wrote:
>> Can you please post the link, looking to have a new dodger instilled. 
>> Thinking about having a permanent one made. 
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 2, 2017, at 11:03 AM, Sean Richardson via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Tom,
>>> 
>>> I was just browsing your flickr feed. Beautiful boat and home port 
>>> location. Love that dodger too.
>>> 
>>> Sean
>>> 
>>> 
 On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 7:27 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
  wrote:
 Sean
 
 I'll second that.  Andrews, home-based in Niagara on the Lake was built on 
 distributing C&C boats throughout north America,  I suspect that 80% or 
 more of C&C;s not on Lake Ontario or Erie were originally delivered by 
 Andrews.  I trusted them bringing Alera from NotL to Seattle and they did 
 a great job.  Just don;t ask for a delivery any time near the Toronto boat 
 show because all their truck are booked for a month or so for that event.
 
 http://www.andrewstrucking.com/
 
 Gert Tiel did my survey.  Not sure he is anywhere near your target boat.  
 His survey was not at all detailed.  But I was so in love at the time that 
 I just didn't  care. And I figured that after building a few thousand C&C, 
 Gert coul d pretty much spot anything serious.  This site might come in 
 handy if you're looking for on in Ontario. 
 http://www.pcmarinesurveys.com/Every%20Marine%20Surveyor%20In%20Ontario.htm
  
 
 GL
 
 Tom B
 
 Tom Buscaglia
 SV Alera
 1990 C&C 37+/40
 Vashon Island WA
 (206) 463-9200
 www.sv-alera.com
 
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> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 15:56:44 -0400
> From: Sean Richardson 
> To: CnC-List 
> Subject: Stus-List Surveyor ? Sarnia Ontario area
> Message-ID:
>  
> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> I?m taking a run at another boat and may be in need of a reputable 
> surveyor
> in the Sarnia Ontario area. Any listers around there that know of a good
> surveyor I can contact?
> 
> 
> 
> I haven?t seen the boat yet as it?s a good 7-8 hour drive from me and
> paying a surveyor for a proper report and saving me a trip would be well
> worth it I think.
> 
> 
> 
> Also looking for transport services within Ontario if anyone would like to
> share their experiences and recommendations.
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> From: Marek Dziedzic 
> To: Sean Richardson via CnC-List 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Surveyor ? Sarnia Ontario area
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> Most reputable: Andrew?s transport ( http://www.andrewstrucking.com/). 
> They are not the cheapest.
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 Tom Buscaglia
 SV Alera
 1990 C&C 37+/40
 Vashon Island WA
 (206) 463-9200
 www.sv-alera.com
 
 
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