Re: Stus-List USB to Serial - reading NMEA stream

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Getting USB > Serial to work is kind of a black art now. It really is almost 
worth finding an old laptop with a serial port.
IMHO the FTDI versions – the real ones – tend to work best.
https://www.amazon.com/Chipset-Speed-Serial-RS-232-Converter/dp/B005S72HHO/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1474022238&sr=8-4&keywords=FTDI+serial+USB
http://www.milltechmarine.com/Sabrent-USB-to-Serial-Adapter--FTDI-Edition_p_163.html

The various fake knockoffs tend to have all kinds of issues.
Joe
Coquina
BTW – Almost forgot – OpenCPN has raw NMEA windows you can open for 
troubleshooting.

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek 
Dziedzic via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:39 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Marek Dziedzic
Subject: Re: Stus-List USB to Serial - reading NMEA stream

Dennis,

I cannot answer any of the really technical questions, but…

There is, generally, a problem with eth USB2Serial adapters. One of the most 
common is that the adapter does not have the real Prolific h/w; rather is an 
imitation. This happens even if you purchased the adapter from a reputable 
source. This is a reasonably well know issue. To the point that some s/w 
developers refuse to support a solution if a USB2Serial adapter is used. I had 
major stability problem with my previous weather station that used a serial 
connection and a special rain dance or waving a chicken leg was often required 
in order to make it connect.

So, in short, there may not be a bullet proof USB2Serial driver.

Marek
Ottawa, ON



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via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 17:26
To: CnClist mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: Dennis C. mailto:capt...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Stus-List USB to Serial - reading NMEA stream

Really technical question here.

I'm try to solve a puzzling issue on Touche'.  I installed a Noland AM43 
multiplexer to gather wind data from my Nexus instruments and send it to my 
Simrad WP30 wheel pilot.  That works now.  However, in the process, the WP30 is 
not receiving the waypoint arrival alarm.  When the WP30 was interfaced 
directly to the GPS, it always deactivated "Nav" mode when we got to 0.10 nm of 
a waypoint and the arrival alarm activated.  Now I hear the GPS audible alarm 
but the WP30 keeps on steering.
I know the WP30 is receiving GPS data because it steers right past the waypoint 
and gradually changes course and navigates dutifully to the next waypoint in 
the route.  The Nexus instruments show all the correct data, distance/bearing 
to waypoint, course to steer, cross track error, etc.

I have what I consider the appropriate sentences programmed into the Nexus NMEA 
output slots; APA, APB, RMB, etc.
I want to read and log the data stream.  The AM43 has a USB port.

I have a Dell mini laptop with a Prolific PL2303 USB to Serial driver 
installed. It usually shows on COM3.  I have two applications, GPSinfo and 
DPort Lite (a lite version of Hyperterminal).  I can see the NMEA data stream 
from my Globalsat BU-353 GPS adapter on both applications but I have to unplug 
and re-plug the BU-353 in some mystical order for it to be seen in DPort Lite.
Since there is no Wi-Fi or internet at my marina for troubleshooting, I want 
some reasonable assurance that when I connect to the multiplexer, I will see 
data.  I two questions for the cyber-minded folks.
1.  Is there a bombproof USB serial driver that will work every time with DPort 
Lite without having to plug/unplug/reboot or place a chicken wing under a 
cypress tree at full moon?
2.  Where in the APA, APB, RMB sentences is the arrival alarm data and what 
characters signal on or off?
Thanks,
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List USB to Serial - reading NMEA stream

[Gary Russell via CnC-List]

I've had good luck with the Sabrent USB to serial adapter with NMEA0183.
The only issue is to make sure no data is streaming into the adapter until
there is an application running to accept it.
Gary
S/V Kaylarah
'90 C&C 37+
East Greenwich, RI, USA

~~~_/)~~


On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 6:49 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Getting USB > Serial to work is kind of a black art now. It really is
> almost worth finding an old laptop with a serial port.
>
> IMHO the FTDI versions – the real ones – tend to work best.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Chipset-Speed-Serial-RS-232-
> Converter/dp/B005S72HHO/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1474022238&
> sr=8-4&keywords=FTDI+serial+USB
>
> http://www.milltechmarine.com/Sabrent-USB-to-Serial-Adapter-
> -FTDI-Edition_p_163.html
>
>
>
> The various fake knockoffs tend to have all kinds of issues.
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
>
> BTW – Almost forgot – OpenCPN has raw NMEA windows you can open for
> troubleshooting.
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Marek
> Dziedzic via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:39 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Marek Dziedzic
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List USB to Serial - reading NMEA stream
>
>
>
> Dennis,
>
>
>
> I cannot answer any of the really technical questions, but…
>
>
>
> There is, generally, a problem with eth USB2Serial adapters. One of the
> most common is that the adapter does not have the real Prolific h/w; rather
> is an imitation. This happens even if you purchased the adapter from a
> reputable source. This is a reasonably well know issue. To the point that
> some s/w developers refuse to support a solution if a USB2Serial adapter is
> used. I had major stability problem with my previous weather station that
> used a serial connection and a special rain dance or waving a chicken leg
> was often required in order to make it connect.
>
>
>
> So, in short, there may not be a bullet proof USB2Serial driver.
>
>
>
> Marek
>
> Ottawa, ON
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Dennis C. via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 15, 2016 17:26
> *To:* CnClist 
> *Cc:* Dennis C. 
> *Subject:* Stus-List USB to Serial - reading NMEA stream
>
>
>
> Really technical question here.
>
>
> I'm try to solve a puzzling issue on Touche'.  I installed a Noland AM43
> multiplexer to gather wind data from my Nexus instruments and send it to my
> Simrad WP30 wheel pilot.  That works now.  However, in the process, the
> WP30 is not receiving the waypoint arrival alarm.  When the WP30 was
> interfaced directly to the GPS, it always deactivated "Nav" mode when we
> got to 0.10 nm of a waypoint and the arrival alarm activated.  Now I hear
> the GPS audible alarm but the WP30 keeps on steering.
>
> I know the WP30 is receiving GPS data because it steers right past the
> waypoint and gradually changes course and navigates dutifully to the next
> waypoint in the route.  The Nexus instruments show all the correct data,
> distance/bearing to waypoint, course to steer, cross track error, etc.
>
>
>
> I have what I consider the appropriate sentences programmed into the Nexus
> NMEA output slots; APA, APB, RMB, etc.
>
> I want to read and log the data stream.  The AM43 has a USB port.
>
> I have a Dell mini laptop with a Prolific PL2303 USB to Serial driver
> installed. It usually shows on COM3.  I have two applications, GPSinfo and
> DPort Lite (a lite version of Hyperterminal).  I can see the NMEA data
> stream from my Globalsat BU-353 GPS adapter on both applications but I have
> to unplug and re-plug the BU-353 in some mystical order for it to be seen
> in DPort Lite.
>
> Since there is no Wi-Fi or internet at my marina for troubleshooting, I
> want some reasonable assurance that when I connect to the multiplexer, I
> will see data.  I two questions for the cyber-minded folks.
>
> 1.  Is there a bombproof USB serial driver that will work every time with
> DPort Lite without having to plug/unplug/reboot or place a chicken wing
> under a cypress tree at full moon?
>
> 2.  Where in the APA, APB, RMB sentences is the arrival alarm data and
> what characters signal on or off?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dennis C.
>
> Touche' 35-1 #83
>
> Mandeville, LA
>
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Re: Stus-List USB to Serial - reading NMEA stream

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

To make matters even worse, a lot of devices you THINK are USB devices have the 
converter chip inside them somewhere and have the same issues, with the 
drawback that you can’t change it.
See any number of cheap interface cables for OBD car diagnostics. I think I 
have 2 or 3 that won’t reliably connect.
Also note NMEA 0183 and RS-232 are not the same voltage specifications. Well 
over 90% of the time they play well together, but not 100%. I had a non-marine 
GPS puck that had an RS-232 serial connection. It worked OK for just the 
laptop, but failed driving the laptop, the VHF, and the APRS tracker. I had to 
buy a marine Garmin unit that had a true buffered NMEA output with enough power 
to deal with multiple listeners.
Joe
Coquina

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek 
Dziedzic via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:39 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Marek Dziedzic
Subject: Re: Stus-List USB to Serial - reading NMEA stream

Dennis,

I cannot answer any of the really technical questions, but…

There is, generally, a problem with eth USB2Serial adapters. One of the most 
common is that the adapter does not have the real Prolific h/w; rather is an 
imitation. This happens even if you purchased the adapter from a reputable 
source. This is a reasonably well know issue. To the point that some s/w 
developers refuse to support a solution if a USB2Serial adapter is used. I had 
major stability problem with my previous weather station that used a serial 
connection and a special rain dance or waving a chicken leg was often required 
in order to make it connect.

So, in short, there may not be a bullet proof USB2Serial driver.

Marek
Ottawa, ON



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 17:26
To: CnClist mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: Dennis C. mailto:capt...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Stus-List USB to Serial - reading NMEA stream

Really technical question here.

I'm try to solve a puzzling issue on Touche'.  I installed a Noland AM43 
multiplexer to gather wind data from my Nexus instruments and send it to my 
Simrad WP30 wheel pilot.  That works now.  However, in the process, the WP30 is 
not receiving the waypoint arrival alarm.  When the WP30 was interfaced 
directly to the GPS, it always deactivated "Nav" mode when we got to 0.10 nm of 
a waypoint and the arrival alarm activated.  Now I hear the GPS audible alarm 
but the WP30 keeps on steering.
I know the WP30 is receiving GPS data because it steers right past the waypoint 
and gradually changes course and navigates dutifully to the next waypoint in 
the route.  The Nexus instruments show all the correct data, distance/bearing 
to waypoint, course to steer, cross track error, etc.

I have what I consider the appropriate sentences programmed into the Nexus NMEA 
output slots; APA, APB, RMB, etc.
I want to read and log the data stream.  The AM43 has a USB port.

I have a Dell mini laptop with a Prolific PL2303 USB to Serial driver 
installed. It usually shows on COM3.  I have two applications, GPSinfo and 
DPort Lite (a lite version of Hyperterminal).  I can see the NMEA data stream 
from my Globalsat BU-353 GPS adapter on both applications but I have to unplug 
and re-plug the BU-353 in some mystical order for it to be seen in DPort Lite.
Since there is no Wi-Fi or internet at my marina for troubleshooting, I want 
some reasonable assurance that when I connect to the multiplexer, I will see 
data.  I two questions for the cyber-minded folks.
1.  Is there a bombproof USB serial driver that will work every time with DPort 
Lite without having to plug/unplug/reboot or place a chicken wing under a 
cypress tree at full moon?
2.  Where in the APA, APB, RMB sentences is the arrival alarm data and what 
characters signal on or off?
Thanks,
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List USB to Serial - reading NMEA stream

[Gary Russell via CnC-List]

Joe is correct.  NMEA0183 is not RS232.  I think it is RS422, but am not
sure.  It might be RS485.  At any rate, they often play well together, but
not always.  You can purchase RS422 and RS485 converters for USB.

Gary

~~~_/)~~


On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 7:42 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> To make matters even worse, a lot of devices you THINK are USB devices
> have the converter chip inside them somewhere and have the same issues,
> with the drawback that you can’t change it.
>
> See any number of cheap interface cables for OBD car diagnostics. I think
> I have 2 or 3 that won’t reliably connect.
>
> Also note NMEA 0183 and RS-232 are not the same voltage specifications.
> Well over 90% of the time they play well together, but not 100%. I had a
> non-marine GPS puck that had an RS-232 serial connection. It worked OK for
> just the laptop, but failed driving the laptop, the VHF, and the APRS
> tracker. I had to buy a marine Garmin unit that had a true buffered NMEA
> output with enough power to deal with multiple listeners.
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Marek
> Dziedzic via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:39 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Marek Dziedzic
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List USB to Serial - reading NMEA stream
>
>
>
> Dennis,
>
>
>
> I cannot answer any of the really technical questions, but…
>
>
>
> There is, generally, a problem with eth USB2Serial adapters. One of the
> most common is that the adapter does not have the real Prolific h/w; rather
> is an imitation. This happens even if you purchased the adapter from a
> reputable source. This is a reasonably well know issue. To the point that
> some s/w developers refuse to support a solution if a USB2Serial adapter is
> used. I had major stability problem with my previous weather station that
> used a serial connection and a special rain dance or waving a chicken leg
> was often required in order to make it connect.
>
>
>
> So, in short, there may not be a bullet proof USB2Serial driver.
>
>
>
> Marek
>
> Ottawa, ON
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Dennis C. via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 15, 2016 17:26
> *To:* CnClist 
> *Cc:* Dennis C. 
> *Subject:* Stus-List USB to Serial - reading NMEA stream
>
>
>
> Really technical question here.
>
>
> I'm try to solve a puzzling issue on Touche'.  I installed a Noland AM43
> multiplexer to gather wind data from my Nexus instruments and send it to my
> Simrad WP30 wheel pilot.  That works now.  However, in the process, the
> WP30 is not receiving the waypoint arrival alarm.  When the WP30 was
> interfaced directly to the GPS, it always deactivated "Nav" mode when we
> got to 0.10 nm of a waypoint and the arrival alarm activated.  Now I hear
> the GPS audible alarm but the WP30 keeps on steering.
>
> I know the WP30 is receiving GPS data because it steers right past the
> waypoint and gradually changes course and navigates dutifully to the next
> waypoint in the route.  The Nexus instruments show all the correct data,
> distance/bearing to waypoint, course to steer, cross track error, etc.
>
>
>
> I have what I consider the appropriate sentences programmed into the Nexus
> NMEA output slots; APA, APB, RMB, etc.
>
> I want to read and log the data stream.  The AM43 has a USB port.
>
> I have a Dell mini laptop with a Prolific PL2303 USB to Serial driver
> installed. It usually shows on COM3.  I have two applications, GPSinfo and
> DPort Lite (a lite version of Hyperterminal).  I can see the NMEA data
> stream from my Globalsat BU-353 GPS adapter on both applications but I have
> to unplug and re-plug the BU-353 in some mystical order for it to be seen
> in DPort Lite.
>
> Since there is no Wi-Fi or internet at my marina for troubleshooting, I
> want some reasonable assurance that when I connect to the multiplexer, I
> will see data.  I two questions for the cyber-minded folks.
>
> 1.  Is there a bombproof USB serial driver that will work every time with
> DPort Lite without having to plug/unplug/reboot or place a chicken wing
> under a cypress tree at full moon?
>
> 2.  Where in the APA, APB, RMB sentences is the arrival alarm data and
> what characters signal on or off?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dennis C.
>
> Touche' 35-1 #83
>
> Mandeville, LA
>
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>
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> Contributions are greatly appreciated!
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Re: Stus-List USB to Serial - reading NMEA stream

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

NMEA0183 is generally supposed to be balanced RS422; but there have been plenty 
of implementations that were NOT balanced, like the older Garmin four-pin 
power/data cables.

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Sep 16, 2016, at 7:03 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Joe is correct.  NMEA0183 is not RS232.  I think it is RS422, but am not 
> sure.  It might be RS485.  At any rate, they often play well together, but 
> not always.  You can purchase RS422 and RS485 converters for USB.
> 
> Gary

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Stus-List Landfall 35 for sale

[JAMES LEMESURIER via CnC-List]

Have listed my LF 35 - located in NB Canada on the Bay of Fundy (approx 1 
hour's drive from US border).
Listing is at 1981 C&C Landfall Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
  
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Re: Stus-List Electrical Question

[gnylander--- via CnC-List]

I have seen a few anchor balls around here (St. Michaels, 
MD) usually on boats visiting on their way up or down the 
ICW - there are two anchorages on the river, so they know 
what they are doing. Most don't. Some don't even display 
lights at night


Gary


On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 10:39:53 -0400
 Rick Brass via CnC-List  wrote:
West sells a fold up anchor ball for a relatively cheap 
$17. But I bet they don’t sell many. I’d not have a clue 
as to where you could go to buy a steaming cone. And I 
don’t think I’ve ever seen either one of these actually 
being used by a small boat. I do occasionally see day 
shapes displayed on the larger shrimp trawlers in our 
waters, but not often. 




Rick Brass

Washington, NC





From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On 
Behalf Of Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List

Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 9:59 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Marek Dziedzic 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Electrical Question



Rick,



you do (so triple points for you (each point can be 
converted to a drink of your choice when visiting on my 
boat)). Though, I should have said that professionals 
should not apply (;-).




I don’t have the day shapes either, but I have to say 
that a long while ago I used to sail on a boat that 
regularly displayed the black ball when anchoring. And we 
used to carry both the black ball and the black cone. 
However, I don’t remember ever displaying the inverted 
cone. And I don’t think I ever saw an inverted cone 
displayed.




Marek

Ottawa, ON




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Stus-List 37+ in Etobicoke Ontario

[Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List]

At that price it would be pretty much a steal.  Just go see it!

Yes, I am a bit prejudiced...

Tom Buscaglia
S/V Alera 
1990 C&C 37+/40
Vashon WA
P 206.463.9200
C 305.409.3660


> On Sep 16, 2016, at 3:50 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 23:51:13 -0400
> From: Robert Gallagher 
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
> Subject: Stus-List 37+ in Etobicoke Ontario
> Message-ID:
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Listers,
> 
> Does anyone have any info on a 1988 37+ located in Ontario called 'STOP 37'?
> 
> It just came up on Yachtworld and I'm interested.  :)  But it's a long way
> for me to travel if it's been rode hard and put away wet.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Rob
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Re: Stus-List 37+ in Etobicoke Ontario

[David via CnC-List]

ROAD TRIP!!!


I am serious...

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650 (cell)


Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 23:51:13 -0400
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List 37+ in Etobicoke Ontario
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
CC: trys...@gmail.com

Listers,
Does anyone have any info on a 1988 37+ located in Ontario called 'STOP 37'?
It just came up on Yachtworld and I'm interested.  :)  But it's a long way for 
me to travel if it's been rode hard and put away wet.
Thanks,
Rob

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Re: Stus-List 37+ in Etobicoke Ontario

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

there was a 1989 C&C 37+ for sale in Mattapoisett for over a year.  they 
started at $75k and ended up selling it for $50k. I've become friendly 
with a guy in Mattapoisett that is good friends with the couple that 
owned the 37+.  They had already bought a new boat and just wanted it 
gone.  So, the price kept coming down.


I looked at the boat when it first popped up.  I was reluctant because 
of the deep draft.  The boat was in impeccable condition. It did need 
Sails and the rig had not been serviced and she had no canvas over the 
cockpit.  I think it sold over last winter.  The interior was in really 
nice shape.


I'm just hoping that ads some perspective.

Danny


On 9/16/2016 1:58 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List wrote:

At that price it would be pretty much a steal.  Just go see it!

Yes, I am a bit prejudiced...

Tom Buscaglia
S/V Alera
1990 C&C 37+/40
Vashon WA
P 206.463.9200
C 305.409.3660


On Sep 16, 2016, at 3:50 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com 
 wrote:



Message: 5
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 23:51:13 -0400
From: Robert Gallagher mailto:trys...@gmail.com>>
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com " 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>

Subject: Stus-List 37+ in Etobicoke Ontario
Message-ID:
  
 >

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Listers,

Does anyone have any info on a 1988 37+ located in Ontario called 
'STOP 37'?


It just came up on Yachtworld and I'm interested.  :)  But it's a 
long way

for me to travel if it's been rode hard and put away wet.

Thanks,

Rob



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Re: Stus-List 37+ in Etobicoke Ontario

[Harry Hallgring Jr via CnC-List]

Already ahead of you Dave... In New Hampshire!!

Harry
Sent from my iPhone 7 beta

> On Sep 16, 2016, at 14:12, David via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> ROAD TRIP!!!
> 
> 
> I am serious...
> 
> David F. Risch
> (401) 419-4650 (cell)
> 
> 
> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 23:51:13 -0400
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List 37+ in Etobicoke Ontario
> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> CC: trys...@gmail.com
> 
> Listers,
> 
> Does anyone have any info on a 1988 37+ located in Ontario called 'STOP 37'?
> 
> It just came up on Yachtworld and I'm interested.  :)  But it's a long way 
> for me to travel if it's been rode hard and put away wet.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Rob
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Re: Stus-List 37+ in Etobicoke Ontario

[Martin Kane via CnC-List]

Stop 37 is at the Etobicoke Yacht Club. (EYC). When I was a member there, I 
don’t recall it participating in the weeknight club races, which is consistent 
with the info in the ad. While I don’t know how well the boat has been 
maintained, I don’t think you have to worry about “rode hard and put away wet.” 
 There are at least two listers who are members at EYC. Perhaps they can shed 
more light on the current status. If you’d like a condition assessment based on 
a visual from the finger dock. Let me know, I’m at the adjacent club now.

 

As an aside, my sense is that the price of Canadian boats has not changed with 
the strengthening of the US dollar, consequently boats close to border are good 
value for US buyers. Also our season is May to Oct., or really just July and 
August, so boats have minimal use,

 

Martin 

C&C 29-2

Recalculating

Mimico Cruising Club

 

 

 

 

From: Robert Gallagher [mailto:trys...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 11:51 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List 37+ in Etobicoke Ontario

 

Listers,

 

Does anyone have any info on a 1988 37+ located in Ontario called 'STOP 37'?

 

It just came up on Yachtworld and I'm interested.  :)  But it's a long way for 
me to travel if it's been rode hard and put away wet.

 

Thanks,

 

Rob

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Re: Stus-List 37+ in Etobicoke Ontario

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

I'm in Toronto for the World Cup. 
What's the plan?

Chuck B
C&C34 Elusive
Somerset, MA


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> On Sep 16, 2016, at 7:23 PM, Harry Hallgring Jr via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Already ahead of you Dave... In New Hampshire!!
>> 
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Stus-List Solar panels

[detroito91 via CnC-List]

I feel this topic has been reviewed a while back.   I'm looking to purchase 150 
watt panels and control unit. What do you feel would be the best system?
Requirements are minimal.
Thanks for your help. 
Jim schwartz 
SEA YA !
C&c 38 LF
Washington nc
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