Re: Stus-List SOS signals - LED light to replace flares?

[S Thomas via CnC-List]

"Battery operated (3 C-cell) with simple twist-on operation"

I don't see where it says that the batteries can't be replaced. 

Too bad they don't have Canadian coast guard approval. 

Steve Thomas
C&C27 MKIII
Port Stanley, ON
 
- Original Message - 
  From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
  To: C&C List 
  Cc: Josh Muckley 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 00:23
  Subject: Re: Stus-List SOS signals - LED light to replace flares?


  Kevin is right.  I get a UPV inspection from the USCG evey year and the 
inspector suggested I get one.  I don't like the fact that the batteries can't 
be replaced.

  Josh Muckley 
  S/V Sea Hawk
  1989 C&C 37+
  Solomons, MD


  On Jun 14, 2016 11:12 PM, "Dennis C. via CnC-List"  
wrote:

Marinebeam says this light will replace pyrotechnic flares for a night 
signaling device.  Are they correct?  What would you use for a day signal?





Anybody have one of them?

How would one convince a Coastie they are legal?

What day 



Dennis


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Re: Stus-List SOS signals - LED light to replace flares?

[Indigo via CnC-List]

Might be a "no brainier" financially, would you really want to rely on an 
orange flag to draw attention to yourself if in trouble during the day? While I 
know we'd all have vhf radios as well, I'd rather have flares - and even at 
night  I doubt if many bozo's on the water would even know what a flashing ... 
---... would even mean!! 

--
Jonathan
Indigo C&C 35III
SOUTHPORT CT

> On Jun 15, 2016, at 00:16, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> An orange distress flag for daytime (which is included) and you meet the regs


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Re: Stus-List Stupid Reefing Mistake / clew straps

[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

The last two mainsails I have had made came with straps - about 18-24 inches
long, made with Velcro backed cloth. And, the J-24 and J-80 sails I have
used.

 

Gary

30-1

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 5:36 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Jean-Francois J Rivard ; ziedzi...@hotmail.com
Subject: Stus-List Stupid Reefing Mistake / clew straps

 

I have a loose footed main. I was told NEVER to attach the sail ties to the
boom when reefing.. If you bother with them at all just go around the bottom
of the sail and back / cinch it to keep from flopping around..

Personally I usually don't bother and just use either the hook on the
gooseneck for the tack side or the Cunningham line to give it a remote
adjustment for quick release when racing and the outhaul / reefing line at
the clew.. 

Clew straps:  Where have you seen those for larger boats?   I looked into
that a while back and all I found were for Lasers and Optis.. 


-Francois Rivard
1990 34+ "Take Five"
Lake Lanier, GA





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Re: Stus-List Awful vibration

[Nauset Beach via CnC-List]

Dave,

 

A couple other things to explore beyond the engine / shaft alignment already 
mentioned: 

 

A possibility might be the hub of the Flex prop is not seated properly on the 
shaft and therefore is off center.  If the key moved out of position as you 
slid the hub on, the hub could ride up on it and not be fully on the shaft.  

 

The cutlass bearing may be worn, especially if it had several years of 
operation with that out of balance Martec prop.  Try to dive on the boat and 
see if you can move the shaft at the strut.  A rule of thumb I heard years ago 
is anything more than 1/16” of play is too much and the cutlass needs to be 
replaced.  

 

Another possibility is the shaft is not true.  The prior owner might have 
caught a lobster pot or other line and bent the shaft.  

 

While the prop could be reset while in the water it would require a 
knowledgeable diver and some of the pre-coated set screws that came from Flex o 
Fold with the prop.  Otherwise, a short haul is in order, or living with it and 
chase down the cause(s) after hauling for the winter.  

 

I did get the 16x12 blades for my old Flex hub [replacing the 16x13 blades 
originally sold to me] and it made a significant difference in reducing 
vibration.  

 

Good luck

Brian

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robin Drew 
via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 10:39 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Robin Drew 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Awful vibration

 

Did you check you engine/ shaft alignment? It's a common cause of vibration.

Robin


On Jun 14, 2016, at 8:55 PM, Dave via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

I purchased my boat, a 1984 35Mk3 three years ago. The first season the boat 
would vibrate badly when I'd slow down under power. I'd put it in reverse, 
throw it into forward (ouch) and things would be fine. The blades always opened 
initially when I motored off the mooring but if I slowed down the flow over the 
blades exceeded the centripetal force and folded one of the blades and not the 
other . So, that winter I sent the 2 bladed prop back to Martek to have it 
rebuilt. They said the blades were so badly oxidized that they couldn't weld 
them to build up the stops so, they replaced the blades with another pair 
(used) they had available. To be sure the problem was fixed I also had the cone 
clutch in the transmission replaced. Last summer the only thing that changed 
was that the boat now moved forward when the lever was pulled back to reverse 
and visa versa. The vibration still happened under the same scenarios. Having 
had the blades replaced and the transmission rebuilt there was no way to tell 
whether it was that the blades were the opposite hand as what I had previously 
or if the transmission was done incorrectly.

 

This spring I purchased a 2 blade Flexfold geared prop and guess what, the 
vibration problem is still there and forward and reverse are still, yep 
reversed. So, I know that the direction issue is the transmission and that is 
easily fixed by rotating the linkage arm. But, I'm totally baffled as to why 
the vibration problem has not been resolved.

 

So, if anyone has any suggestions or ideas they would be greatly appreciated.

 

Dave J

Saltaire

C&C 35Mk3

Bristol, RI

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Re: Stus-List SOS signals - LED light to replace flares?

[Nauset Beach via CnC-List]

Active Captain had a sale through Defender for this light last Labor Day and
I bought one so I know I am "legal" should some flares slip past the 36
month expiration.  The June / July BoatUS Magazine has an article on
signaling devices [flares / LED / lasers] and the LED received a below
average grade.  

I agree with Jonathan that it is unlikely anyone would notice or know what
it is and still keep a bag of flares on board, both USCG and SOLAS.  

Brian

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Indigo
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 4:22 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Indigo 
Subject: Re: Stus-List SOS signals - LED light to replace flares?

Might be a "no brainier" financially, would you really want to rely on an
orange flag to draw attention to yourself if in trouble during the day?
While I know we'd all have vhf radios as well, I'd rather have flares - and
even at night  I doubt if many bozo's on the water would even know what a
flashing ... ---... would even mean!! 

--
Jonathan
Indigo C&C 35III
SOUTHPORT CT

> On Jun 15, 2016, at 00:16, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List
 wrote:
> 
> An orange distress flag for daytime (which is included) and you meet the
regs


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Re: Stus-List SOS signals - LED light to replace flares?

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

The SOS flag IMHO would only work if you lit it on fire. I doubt *anyone* knows 
what they are. The LED flare thing would likely be OK if someone was already 
looking for you, but once again I doubt all that many people would notice it or 
know what it was.
If you just need to meet a reg, the LED flare is a good idea.  If you want to 
actually get found, only SOLAS flares are worth having. A 12 gauge meteor flare 
is barely noticeable if you know where to look and know it is about to go off. 
A SOLAS flare lights up the sky bright enough to read by.

Joe Della Barba
DCSI
410-966-7255



-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Nauset Beach 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 07:46
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Nauset Beach
Subject: Re: Stus-List SOS signals - LED light to replace flares?

Active Captain had a sale through Defender for this light last Labor Day and I 
bought one so I know I am "legal" should some flares slip past the 36 month 
expiration.  The June / July BoatUS Magazine has an article on signaling 
devices [flares / LED / lasers] and the LED received a below average grade.  

I agree with Jonathan that it is unlikely anyone would notice or know what it 
is and still keep a bag of flares on board, both USCG and SOLAS.  

Brian

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Indigo via 
CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 4:22 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Indigo 
Subject: Re: Stus-List SOS signals - LED light to replace flares?

Might be a "no brainier" financially, would you really want to rely on an 
orange flag to draw attention to yourself if in trouble during the day?
While I know we'd all have vhf radios as well, I'd rather have flares - and 
even at night  I doubt if many bozo's on the water would even know what a 
flashing ... ---... would even mean!! 

--
Jonathan
Indigo C&C 35III
SOUTHPORT CT

> On Jun 15, 2016, at 00:16, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List
 wrote:
> 
> An orange distress flag for daytime (which is included) and you meet 
> the
regs


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Stus-List Awful vibration

[Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List]

> 
> 
> +1 on double checking the pitch. When I had my Martec refurbished I was told 
> by Martec that my original blades were under pitched and I bought new blades 
> with higher pitch..
> 
> After a year of chasing vibration checking everything with no success I 
> finally had my old blades machined to fit  the new pivot and slapped them 
> on..   Problem solved! 
> 
> Cavitation was the culprit.  The offending blades were also pretty badly 
> pitted which corroborated the cavitation theory.  
> 
> Good luck with it 
> 
> -Francois 
> 
> 1990 34+ "Take Five"
> Lake Lanier GA 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from IBM Verse

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Re: Stus-List SOS signals - LED light to replace flares?

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

H.  Some good points.

So we don't think Bubba Redneck would realize what a light flashing "Dit
Dit Dit Dah Dah Dah Dit Dit Dit" means?  I'd be better off buying a neon
beer sign.

I think I agree.  If I buy one, I'll keep my flares.

Anybody want to design a circuit that makes an anchor light flash SOS?

Dennis C.

On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 7:52 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> The SOS flag IMHO would only work if you lit it on fire. I doubt *anyone*
> knows what they are. The LED flare thing would likely be OK if someone was
> already looking for you, but once again I doubt all that many people would
> notice it or know what it was.
> If you just need to meet a reg, the LED flare is a good idea.  If you want
> to actually get found, only SOLAS flares are worth having. A 12 gauge
> meteor flare is barely noticeable if you know where to look and know it is
> about to go off. A SOLAS flare lights up the sky bright enough to read by.
>
> Joe Della Barba
> DCSI
> 410-966-7255
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Nauset
> Beach via CnC-List
> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 07:46
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Nauset Beach
> Subject: Re: Stus-List SOS signals - LED light to replace flares?
>
> Active Captain had a sale through Defender for this light last Labor Day
> and I bought one so I know I am "legal" should some flares slip past the 36
> month expiration.  The June / July BoatUS Magazine has an article on
> signaling devices [flares / LED / lasers] and the LED received a below
> average grade.
>
> I agree with Jonathan that it is unlikely anyone would notice or know what
> it is and still keep a bag of flares on board, both USCG and SOLAS.
>
> Brian
>
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Indigo
> via CnC-List
> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 4:22 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Indigo 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List SOS signals - LED light to replace flares?
>
> Might be a "no brainier" financially, would you really want to rely on an
> orange flag to draw attention to yourself if in trouble during the day?
> While I know we'd all have vhf radios as well, I'd rather have flares -
> and even at night  I doubt if many bozo's on the water would even know what
> a flashing ... ---... would even mean!!
>
> --
> Jonathan
> Indigo C&C 35III
> SOUTHPORT CT
>
> > On Jun 15, 2016, at 00:16, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List
>  wrote:
> >
> > An orange distress flag for daytime (which is included) and you meet
> > the
> regs
>
>
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Re: Stus-List SOS signals - LED light to replace flares?

[Dreuge via CnC-List]

Here is a nice review of the  Sirius Signal SOS C-1001 LED at Panbo.


http://www.panbo.com/archives/2015/09/one_led_flare_replaces_us_required_pyros_sirius_signal_but_not_ocean_signal.html




-
Paul E.
1981 C&C 38 Landfall 
S/V Johanna Rose
Carrabelle, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

> On Jun 15, 2016, at 7:35 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
> 
> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 22:11:53 -0500
> From: "Dennis C." mailto:capt...@gmail.com>>
> To: CnClist mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com>>
> Subject: Stus-List SOS signals - LED light to replace flares?
> Message-ID:
>>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Marinebeam says this light will replace pyrotechnic flares for a night
> signaling device.  Are they correct?  What would you use for a day signal?
> 
> <
> https://store.marinebeam.com/led-flare-visual-distress-signal-never-buy-flares-again/
>  
> 
>> 
> 
> Anybody have one of them?
> How would one convince a Coastie they are legal?
> What day
> 
> Dennis

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Re: Stus-List SOS signals - LED light to replace flares?

[Paul Wyand via CnC-List]

To me it is just another tool, I would not rely on it only. I do think the
idea of will Joe the plumber would know what SOS is, so I would want to
have both on board, then again I have at least 15 flairs on board. (many
expired, but still dry and sealed, so likely to be useful in an emergency.

On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Dreuge via CnC-List  wrote:

> Here is a nice review of the  Sirius Signal SOS C-1001 LED at Panbo.
>
>
>
> http://www.panbo.com/archives/2015/09/one_led_flare_replaces_us_required_pyros_sirius_signal_but_not_ocean_signal.html
>
>
>
>
> -
> Paul E.
> 1981 C&C 38 Landfall
> S/V Johanna Rose
> Carrabelle, FL
>
> http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/
>
> On Jun 15, 2016, at 7:35 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
>
> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 22:11:53 -0500
> From: "Dennis C." 
> To: CnClist 
> Subject: Stus-List SOS signals - LED light to replace flares?
> Message-ID:
> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Marinebeam says this light will replace pyrotechnic flares for a night
> signaling device.  Are they correct?  What would you use for a day signal?
>
> <
>
> https://store.marinebeam.com/led-flare-visual-distress-signal-never-buy-flares-again/
>
>
>
> Anybody have one of them?
> How would one convince a Coastie they are legal?
> What day
>
> Dennis
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List 30MKII Screens in the ports?

[allen via CnC-List]

Which ports are you describing?

Allen Miles
S/V Septima 
C&C 30-2
Hampton, VA


From: Lorne Serpa via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 4:50 PM
To: Cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Lorne Serpa 
Subject: Stus-List 30MKII Screens in the ports?


My new to me 30MKII) 1988) is 2000 miles away,  but wondering if the 4 lewmar 
ports have bug screens in them.  Anyone know?  If not,  where can I get some?  
Thanks. 






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Re: Stus-List C and C 25 water in lockers under settees

[allen via CnC-List]

Strange, we don’t have to reef often.  Flatten main and drop traveler, tighten 
backstay, but Septima stays on her feet with Daycron main and tape drive Genoa.

Allen Miles
S/V Septima
C&C 30-2
Hampton, VA


From: Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 4:44 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Kevin Driscoll ; Martin Kane 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C and C 25 water in lockers under settees


That graph confirms my experience on our 30-2. We flatten and reef early. 


KD


On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 12:56 PM randy via CnC-List  
wrote:

  H Martin, suggest you check out the stability diagram:  
http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/technical/stability.htm





  randy

  Tamanawas

  29-II

  Hood River, OR







  From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Martin 
Kane via CnC-List
  Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 9:58 AM
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Cc: Martin Kane 
  Subject: Stus-List C and C 25 water in lockers under settees



  I experienced this occasionally when I had a C&C 25-2. It would only happen 
when the sailing hard to weather with the rail buried. If I were going to 
tighten the hull/deck joint screws I’d start with those closest to the 
chainplates.



  This is not an issue with the 29-2 as it is a very stiff boat and doesn’t 
appear possible to bury the rail.



  Martin 

  C&C 29-2 Recalculating





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Stus-List SOS Signals and Other Ruminations

[Christian Tirtirau via CnC-List]

nt to rely on an
> orange flag to draw attention to yourself if in trouble during the day?
> While I know we'd all have vhf radios as well, I'd rather have flares - and
> even at night  I doubt if many bozo's on the water would even know what a
> flashing ... ---... would even mean!! 
> 
> --
> Jonathan
> Indigo C&C 35III
> SOUTHPORT CT
> 
>>> On Jun 15, 2016, at 00:16, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> An orange distress flag for daytime (which is included) and you meet the
> regs
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 12:52:49 +
> From: "Della Barba, Joe" 
> To: "'cnc-list@cnc-list.com'" 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List SOS signals - LED light to replace flares?
> Message-ID:
><65b3df404fac41c1a1528185f56cd...@nsc-dag3-06.ba.ad.ssa.gov>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> The SOS flag IMHO would only work if you lit it on fire. I doubt *anyone* 
> knows what they are. The LED flare thing would likely be OK if someone was 
> already looking for you, but once again I doubt all that many people would 
> notice it or know what it was.
> If you just need to meet a reg, the LED flare is a good idea.  If you want to 
> actually get found, only SOLAS flares are worth having. A 12 gauge meteor 
> flare is barely noticeable if you know where to look and know it is about to 
> go off. A SOLAS flare lights up the sky bright enough to read by.
> 
> Joe Della Barba
> DCSI
> 410-966-7255
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Nauset 
> Beach via CnC-List
> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 07:46
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Nauset Beach
> Subject: Re: Stus-List SOS signals - LED light to replace flares?
> 
> Active Captain had a sale through Defender for this light last Labor Day and 
> I bought one so I know I am "legal" should some flares slip past the 36 month 
> expiration.  The June / July BoatUS Magazine has an article on signaling 
> devices [flares / LED / lasers] and the LED received a below average grade.  
> 
> I agree with Jonathan that it is unlikely anyone would notice or know what it 
> is and still keep a bag of flares on board, both USCG and SOLAS.  
> 
> Brian
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Indigo via 
> CnC-List
> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 4:22 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Indigo 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List SOS signals - LED light to replace flares?
> 
> Might be a "no brainier" financially, would you really want to rely on an 
> orange flag to draw attention to yourself if in trouble during the day?
> While I know we'd all have vhf radios as well, I'd rather have flares - and 
> even at night  I doubt if many bozo's on the water would even know what a 
> flashing ... ---... would even mean!! 
> 
> --
> Jonathan
> Indigo C&C 35III
> SOUTHPORT CT
> 
>>> On Jun 15, 2016, at 00:16, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> An orange distress flag for daytime (which is included) and you meet 
>> the
> regs
> 
> 
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> From: "Jean-Francois J Rivard" 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List Awful vibration
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>> 
>> 
>> +1 on double checking the pitch. When I had my Martec refurbished I was told 
>> by Martec that my original blades were under pitched and I bought new blades 
>> with higher pitch..
>> 
>> After a year of chasing vibration checking everything with no success I 
>> finally had my old bla

Re: Stus-List SOS signals - LED light to replace flares?

[Michael Brown via CnC-List]

Good points.

Unfortunately the advice I have received is that testing or practicing with 
expired flares is
illegal, at least in Canada. I could imagine in a sudden distress situation, 
particularly including
heavy wind and waves, that a crew member that has never fired or even loaded a 
shotgun
style flare gun might not be an asset.

I have added a floating GPS VHF-DSC handheld to the ditch bag to backup the 
installed one.
They would be my first choice on Lake Ontario.

Michael Brown
Windburn
C&C 30-1


 
As a side comment to the SOS signals post, there are several dimensions to be 
considered. One is between what is needed according to regulations and what is 
really needed in a real life situation. We all know by now that the gap between 
regulations and reality is only increasing. You need to have a set of safety 
devices as required by the governing bodies but that doesn't me mean they will 
do anything for you in a life-threatening situation. The most publicized 
account of how useless most of the so called offshore safety devices are can be 
found in the Sydney Hobart Yacht Race tragedy of 1998. From jack-lines to 
tethers and lifejackets, to flares and even life-rafts, major flaws and 
failures were reported. This was an event where all major Australian SAR units 
off the east coast were in the air or waterborne to assist, imagine that you 
are thousands of miles offshore on your own, in need of help. 
 
In my opinion, we now should emply the best technology has to offer when it 
comes to communication. The purpose of a light or a flare is to communicate, to 
attract attention to our position, but it is an antiquated product which 
produces very limited results. Many ships will pass by and only pure luck will 
make them turn your way and offer help. The truth is these ships power through 
the night on autopilot, with their crews glancing on their AIS and radar 
screens once in a while, while the CPA and TCPA alarms are set for big targets. 
A simple VHF call with a position could save your life. 
For me personally, I always take into account 2 priorities, first personal 
survival, so I need water, food, first aid. Secondly, communication. A PLB/AIS 
device and a hand-held VHF are worth more than all the flares you can carry. If 
I were in northern waters I would choose a survival suit equipped with a PLB 
over a liferaft. In the tropics, a good hypalon dinghy will do, given that my 
EPIRB/PLB has been activated. 
We spend thousands of dollars on safety equipment that not only sits there idle 
and only needs to be replaced regularly, but it may even be useless in a real 
case scenario. I was once fined by a young and over-zealous Coast Guard officer 
for having a horse-shoe shaped lifebuoy instead of the ring-shaped one. I went 
to Canadian Tire and bought a plastic ring the following day, and passed by the 
Coast Guard to validate it. They said I was legal at that point. However, only 
our son could get his body inside the ring, none of us adults could have used 
it, but was perfectly legal. 
Just a few thoughts on safety onboard. Use satellite beacons, and keep your 
flares for the beach barbeque. 
 
 
Sent from my iPad 
 
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Re: Stus-List SOS signals - LED light to replace flares?

[Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List]

I have expired SOLAS flares from life raft service places for free.
Parachute, day/smoke, water color die, handheld etc. I have more than one
of each of these plus old inner tubes to light on fire in case of total
Armageddon.  These are what I would expect to draw attention, not the wimpy
USCG crapola.

However, a light that has a 60hr operating time, that anyone on the crew
can use and not start a fire or burn themselves, and it never expires to
meet regulationsa no brainer.

Oh yes, the obvious as said...PLB, EPIRB, handheld VHF etc.

On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 8:57 AM Michael Brown via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Good points.
>
> Unfortunately the advice I have received is that testing or practicing
> with expired flares is
> illegal, at least in Canada. I could imagine in a sudden distress
> situation, particularly including
> heavy wind and waves, that a crew member that has never fired or even
> loaded a shotgun
> style flare gun might not be an asset.
>
> I have added a floating GPS VHF-DSC handheld to the ditch bag to backup
> the installed one.
> They would be my first choice on Lake Ontario.
>
> Michael Brown
> Windburn
> C&C 30-1
>
>
> As a side comment to the SOS signals post, there are several dimensions to
> be considered. One is between what is needed according to regulations and
> what is really needed in a real life situation. We all know by now that the
> gap between regulations and reality is only increasing. You need to have a
> set of safety devices as required by the governing bodies but that doesn't
> me mean they will do anything for you in a life-threatening situation. The
> most publicized account of how useless most of the so called offshore
> safety devices are can be found in the Sydney Hobart Yacht Race tragedy of
> 1998. From jack-lines to tethers and lifejackets, to flares and even
> life-rafts, major flaws and failures were reported. This was an event where
> all major Australian SAR units off the east coast were in the air or
> waterborne to assist, imagine that you are thousands of miles offshore on
> your own, in need of help.
>
> In my opinion, we now should emply the best technology has to offer when
> it comes to communication. The purpose of a light or a flare is to
> communicate, to attract attention to our position, but it is an antiquated
> product which produces very limited results. Many ships will pass by and
> only pure luck will make them turn your way and offer help. The truth is
> these ships power through the night on autopilot, with their crews glancing
> on their AIS and radar screens once in a while, while the CPA and TCPA
> alarms are set for big targets. A simple VHF call with a position could
> save your life.
> For me personally, I always take into account 2 priorities, first personal
> survival, so I need water, food, first aid. Secondly, communication. A
> PLB/AIS device and a hand-held VHF are worth more than all the flares you
> can carry. If I were in northern waters I would choose a survival suit
> equipped with a PLB over a liferaft. In the tropics, a good hypalon dinghy
> will do, given that my EPIRB/PLB has been activated.
> We spend thousands of dollars on safety equipment that not only sits there
> idle and only needs to be replaced regularly, but it may even be useless in
> a real case scenario. I was once fined by a young and over-zealous Coast
> Guard officer for having a horse-shoe shaped lifebuoy instead of the
> ring-shaped one. I went to Canadian Tire and bought a plastic ring the
> following day, and passed by the Coast Guard to validate it. They said I
> was legal at that point. However, only our son could get his body inside
> the ring, none of us adults could have used it, but was perfectly legal.
> Just a few thoughts on safety onboard. Use satellite beacons, and keep
> your flares for the beach barbeque.
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
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Re: Stus-List 30MKII Screens in the ports?

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

The 4 equal size ones in the cabin solon.  Not the large opening
hatch/escape hatch.

On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 9:34 AM, allen via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Which ports are you describing?
>
> Allen Miles
> S/V Septima
> C&C 30-2
> Hampton, VA
>
> *From:* Lorne Serpa via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2016 4:50 PM
> *To:* Cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Lorne Serpa 
> *Subject:* Stus-List 30MKII Screens in the ports?
>
> My new to me 30MKII) 1988) is 2000 miles away,  but wondering if the 4
> lewmar ports have bug screens in them.  Anyone know?  If not,  where can I
> get some?  Thanks.
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Re: Stus-List 30MKII Screens in the ports?

[allen via CnC-List]

There are two ports in my main cabin, one in the head and one in the aft cabin 
ceilings, all square.  The "screens" are flexible screening held in by Velcro 
around the edges.  The oblong ports in the head and aft cabin back walls and 
one opening horizontally on to cabin sole are factory made units that came with 
the ports. I have another Velcro held screen in the fore cabin, and a wood 
framed screen in the companionway.

We rarely use the framed units because it cuts down the airflow.

Allen


From: Lorne Serpa via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 1:41 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Lorne Serpa 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 30MKII Screens in the ports?


The 4 equal size ones in the cabin solon.  Not the large opening hatch/escape 
hatch.


On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 9:34 AM, allen via CnC-List  
wrote:

  Which ports are you describing?

  Allen Miles
  S/V Septima 
  C&C 30-2
  Hampton, VA


  From: Lorne Serpa via CnC-List 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 4:50 PM
  To: Cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Cc: Lorne Serpa 
  Subject: Stus-List 30MKII Screens in the ports?


  My new to me 30MKII) 1988) is 2000 miles away,  but wondering if the 4 lewmar 
ports have bug screens in them.  Anyone know?  If not,  where can I get some?  
Thanks. 



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Stus-List Symmetrical spinnaker for sale - Toronto

[ed vanderkruk via CnC-List]

I have a older 46+ ft luff spinnaker for sale here in Toronto. $425.
Suitable for 35-38ft boat. From PO so has to be 12+ years. No patches that
I notice and seems only tape around the corners has been restitched. Some
yellowing of the corner reinforcement and of the launching bag. Triradial
red/white. I have  photos of us under sail.

On the Island but could bring into the city.

Ed Vanderkruk
primeintet...@gmail.com
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Re: Stus-List 30MKII Screens in the ports?

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

Thank you for the info!
How does the "wood framed screen in the companionway" stop air flow?


On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 11:41 AM, allen via CnC-List 
wrote:

> There are two ports in my main cabin, one in the head and one in the aft
> cabin ceilings, all square.  The "screens" are flexible screening held in
> by Velcro around the edges.  The oblong ports in the head and aft cabin
> back walls and one opening horizontally on to cabin sole are factory made
> units that came with the ports. I have another Velcro held screen in the
> fore cabin, and a wood framed screen in the companionway.
>
> We rarely use the framed units because it cuts down the airflow.
>
> Allen
>
> *From:* Lorne Serpa via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 15, 2016 1:41 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Lorne Serpa 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 30MKII Screens in the ports?
>
> The 4 equal size ones in the cabin solon.  Not the large opening
> hatch/escape hatch.
>
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 9:34 AM, allen via CnC-List  > wrote:
>
>> Which ports are you describing?
>>
>> Allen Miles
>> S/V Septima
>> C&C 30-2
>> Hampton, VA
>>
>> *From:* Lorne Serpa via CnC-List 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2016 4:50 PM
>> *To:* Cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc:* Lorne Serpa 
>> *Subject:* Stus-List 30MKII Screens in the ports?
>>
>> My new to me 30MKII) 1988) is 2000 miles away,  but wondering if the 4
>> lewmar ports have bug screens in them.  Anyone know?  If not,  where can I
>> get some?  Thanks.
>>
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Re: Stus-List Crack at trailing edge of lower spreader on LF38

[Patrick Davin via CnC-List]

My lower spreaders also each have a tiny crack at the trailing edge. The
crack is about 1/8" - 1/4", on the middle of the seam. My rig inspector
didn't seem at all concerned about it, and there were bigger issues to
tackle first. I'd have to see a picture to know how bad your's looks, but
my solution has been to not worry about it and just go sailing. The way the
spreaders take load, I don't think it poses much concern.

-Patrick
1984 C&C Landfall 38
Seattle, WA

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 8:05 AM,  wrote:

> From: Robert Boyer 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc:
> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 09:55:43 -0400
> Subject: Stus-List Crack at trailing edge of lower spreader on LF38
> As part of my annual haul out this year, I had a rigging survey done by my
> boatyard.  They found a crack that runs along the trailing edge of the
> lower starboard spreader.  We are looking at two options: weld repairs
> and new spreaders.  Has anyone else run into this problem?  If so, any
> help on where to find replacement spreaders would be very useful.  Thanks!
>
> Bob
>
> Bob Boyer
> s/v Rainy Days
> C&C Landfall 38 (Hull # 230)
> Annapolis, MD (presently in Baltimore)
> blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
> email: dainyr...@icloud.com
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Stus-List 1988 30MKII 2GM throttle reversed

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

I'm going over my survey which I was not present for.  I'm 2000 miles  from
my boat at this time... But the survey person said my throttle is
reversed.  How would I fix this?  Is it likely backwards on the helm side
or on the engine side at the carburetor /throttle valve?  Why would the PO
have it reversed to begin with?
I'd like to know in advance of me arriving so I know what kind of task I
have ahead of time and tools/parts I might need.   I need to sail away
within a day of arriving to pick it up and would have one day to repair
/reverse it to correct direction ASAP.
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Re: Stus-List 1988 30MKII 2GM throttle reversed

[Lorne Serpa via CnC-List]

Thinking about it,  the transmission would be reversed not the throttle
right? .  How would I reverse that?  Survey says it's a Kanzaki
transmission.
On Jun 15, 2016 11:50 PM, "Lorne Serpa via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> I'm going over my survey which I was not present for.  I'm 2000 miles
> from my boat at this time... But the survey person said my throttle is
> reversed.  How would I fix this?  Is it likely backwards on the helm side
> or on the engine side at the carburetor /throttle valve?  Why would the PO
> have it reversed to begin with?
> I'd like to know in advance of me arriving so I know what kind of task I
> have ahead of time and tools/parts I might need.   I need to sail away
> within a day of arriving to pick it up and would have one day to repair
> /reverse it to correct direction ASAP.
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