Re: Stus-List Butyl tape question

[dwight veinot via CnC-List]

I used butyl tape on my teak hand rails about 6 years ago.  Once the
handrails were off I cleaned them well and applied 5 coats of cetol all
around before reinstalling.  I found it necessary to cut holes through the
butyl tape with a punch for all of the fasteners because if I didn't do
that the butyl tape adhered to the stainless steel fasteners often twisting
up into a lump around the fasteners and pulling the butyl out of place.  I
used 1/8 inch thick butyl tape and as Jake moted previously I trimmed the
excess that squeezed out of the gap between the handrail base and the deck
with a sharp blade.  I have had zero leaks and the cetol coating on the
handrail only now needs a bit of touch up but only on the easy to work on
top surfaces...a couple of touch up coats of cetol should be quite easy to
do before launch next spring. I highly recommend butyl tape for this
application have done it twice previous with tube sealants I can say the
buyl tape is easier to work with and lasts longer...handrail installation
is a 2 person job

Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, *Alianna*
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
d.ve...@bellaliant.net


On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 6:56 AM, Jake Brodersen via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Barbara,
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> I used butyl on my hand rails and it worked out well.  No leaks after five
> years.  The butyl did ooze out a little, but I can trim it off with a putty
> knife.  I bought some newer, more dense butyl that shouldn’t have that
> problem when I do future projects.
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> Jake
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> *Jake Brodersen*
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> *C&C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress”*
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> *Hampton VA*
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> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Barbara
> Hickson Fellers via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 11, 2015 22:01
> *To:* cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Barbara Hickson Fellers 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Butyl tape question
>
>
>
>Great to see new 33 owners. They are great sailing boats. And the
> Atomic 4 is a great engine and fun to learn on. Speaking of adhesives vs.
> sealants, I've been wanting to try butyl tape. The recent floods have
> uncovered leaks inside from both handrails.  Can I use butyl tape to rebed?
>
>  My big winter project is to fix the many small gel coat rubs, fill holes
> and put new non skid on. Finally will be getting self tailing primaries.
> Will also get the toerail stanchion bases so the old holes will have to be
> filled. I'm unsure if it's better for the boat for the deck to get a coat
> of gel coat sprayed on or each area done individually. I know what a yard
> would say. $ 😳. This is why I'd like to try butyl in case I have to
> rebed everything on deck. (And is removing everything necessary if the deck
> gets sprayed?? I've always heard if it's not leaking don't take it off. )
>
> I leave my settee insert in the quarter earth as well frame side up
> against the inside hull.
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> Thanks and welcome to our new C&C owners!
>
>
> Barbara L. Hickson
>
> '76 C&C 33-1 "Flight Risk"
>
> Charleston SC - a very wet place
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Stus-List Cabin heat

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

It's getting cold up north.  Here's something to warm your cabin.  :)



Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Cabin heat

[Russ & Melody via CnC-List]

That is really cute. An excellent gift or conversation piece.

But for practical purposes, with fuel at 10 bucks 
per litre and a fuel density only 55% of 
kerosene.. I'll keep my little Force Ten kero heater for bulk warming.


Cheers, Russ
Sweet 35 mk-1, B.C. South Coast

At 10:48 AM 14/11/2015, you wrote:

It's getting cold up north.  Here's something to warm your cabin.  :)

<http://www.hammacher.com/Product/Default.aspx?sku=86860>

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Stus-List Schaefer In-Boom Furling

[Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List]

Danny

 I can send you a few docs off list.  My PO was kind enough to 
provide the Installation and Operating Guide for our boom.  It is a 
Beta, but from what I have seen these specs apply to both the Beta 
and larger Gamma booms.


Angles are a little different for a spring loaded or the rigid screw 
vangs that Schaefer sells with the boom.  I have attached scans of 
set  up instructions for each along with their respective 
templates.  In either case, the ideal angle for furling is 87.5 
degrees (not 87!) .  The other angle relevant only to an adjustable 
vang is the top range of the angle with the boom, which is 82 
degrees.  Higher than that is a no no.


I also have a digital copy of the sailmakers instruct tons that I had 
(sorry I don't have the I&OG in digital).  You can see on that the 
angles of each batten and if you take into account the curve of te 
leech, that angle all make sense.


Which C&C do you have and what's your set-up like?

Feel free to contact me by email or call any time.  And if you learn 
anything clever about these beasts, let me know.


Tom B

Tom Buscaglia
SV Alera
1990 C&C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com
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Stus-List Pensacola - Havana Race

[Stephen Thorne via CnC-List]

All, we completed the Pensacola - Havana Race on C&C 34+ Dejavu last Thursday 
November 9th, crossing the finish at 9:36am.   We sailed the entire race, only 
running the engine to charge batteries.   We had five total in the crew and ran 
a helm schedule of two hours on the wheel with another crew keeping them 
company.  The plan was that each person leaving the cockpit would then have a 
long break.  One of our crew became seasick so we sailed most of race with 4 
primary crew.  Winds were mostly SE and fairly strong at 20 - 25 knts but one 
24 hour period with 30+.  We were double reefed most of the race and the boat 
behaved well with little weather helm.  Dodging freighters at night in the Gulf 
of Mexico is part of the race and we had our share of those.  AIS is really 
helpful and better than radar for those situations.  We were the smallest boat 
in the race and took 3rd in Division and 3rd overall. 

It was great to arrive in Cuba and we had many experiences while there.  It is 
a vibrant land with friendly and curious people filled with unrealized dreams 
due to the controls the Cuban government puts on its citizens.
On Saturday we participated on the Havana Cup Race along with 20 other boats.  
Only one other boat pointed as high as Dejavu and that was the J130.  This gave 
us a big advantage against much bigger boats but on our final tack toward to 
finish we messed up a maneuver so we ended up 5th in that race.  We are in Key 
West waiting for a weather window to sail up to Tampa and then later back over 
to Pensacola.

Best to Everyone on the List


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> Bob,
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> On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 8:50 PM, bobmor99 . via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
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>> A very important distinction (made before by others) when talking about
>> rebedding windows/ports/port lights is whether the window is the old style,
>> i.e. aluminium frame attached to the cabintop and a lens attached to the
>> frame or, the newer style which is a lens glued directly to the the outside
>> of the cabintop,
>> 
>> This distinction eluded me for quite awhile when reading threads about
>> rebedding windows/ports/port lights.
>> 
>> I have the old style windows and am very happy using butyl to seal the
>> frames to the outside of the cabintop (along with the screws that attach
>> the frame to the cabintop). (Here, there's a difference between attaching
>> and sealing.)
>> 
>> The newer windows/ports/port lights rely on a very strong adhesive to both
>> attach and seal the lens to the outside of the cabintop.
>> 
>> Hope this helps,
>> 
>> Bob M
>> Ox 33-1
>> Jax, FL
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>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 6:01 PM, Ahmet via CnC-List 
>> wrote:
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>>> A lot of people paraise using Butyl tape for attaching windows.
>>> I have not done it, but I can see the results on my C&C Hull/Deck joint,
>>> and it looks pretty good
>>> Ahmet
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Re: Stus-List Pensacola - Havana Race

[Richard N. Bush via CnC-List]

Steve; thank you for the report; it was fun to follow your progress; do you 
have a photo site? 
 

Richard
1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 584

Richard N. Bush  
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255

 
 
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From: Stephen Thorne via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Stephen Thorne 
Sent: Sat, Nov 14, 2015 9:00 pm
Subject: Stus-List Pensacola - Havana Race




All, we completed the Pensacola - Havana Race on C&C 34+ Dejavu last
Thursday November 9th, crossing the finish at 9:36am.   We sailed the entire
race, only running the engine to charge batteries.   We had five total in the
crew and ran a helm schedule of two hours on the wheel with another crew keeping
them company.  The plan was that each person leaving the cockpit would then have
a long break.  One of our crew became seasick so we sailed most of race with 4
primary crew.  Winds were mostly SE and fairly strong at 20 - 25 knts but one 24
hour period with 30+.  We were double reefed most of the race and the boat
behaved well with little weather helm.  Dodging freighters at night in the Gulf
of Mexico is part of the race and we had our share of those.  AIS is really
helpful and better than radar for those situations.  We were the smallest boat
in the race and took 3rd in Division and 3rd overall. 

It was great to arrive
in Cuba and we had many experiences while there.  It is a vibrant land with
friendly and curious people filled with unrealized dreams due to the controls
the Cuban government puts on its citizens.
On Saturday we participated on the
Havana Cup Race along with 20 other boats.  Only one other boat pointed as high
as Dejavu and that was the J130.  This gave us a big advantage against much
bigger boats but on our final tack toward to finish we messed up a maneuver so
we ended up 5th in that race.  We are in Key West waiting for a weather window
to sail up to Tampa and then later back over to Pensacola.

Best to Everyone
on the List



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