Re: Stus-List Annapolis boat show

[Dave Godwin via CnC-List]

No firm plans yet but I generally go on the Mondays. If so, I'd be up for it.

Best,
Dave
1982 C&C 37 - Ronin

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> On Sep 21, 2014, at 8:27, Joel Aronson via CnC-List  
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> I'm planning to go to the boat show on Monday the 13th.
> 
> Anyone else going interested in meeting for a cold one?
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> Joel
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Stus-List Annapolis boat show

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

I'm planning to go to the boat show on Monday the 13th.

Anyone else going interested in meeting for a cold one?

Joel


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Re: Stus-List Racing my MkV video

[Brent Driedger via CnC-List]

Great video Edd, I love sailing at night. Nice to see speed bring out the 
laughs. 

Brent
27-5
Lake Winnipeg. 

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> On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:53 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
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> Great video, Brent. 
> 
> We shot something similar on the Enterprise during some night racing. Here's 
> the link: http://youtu.be/2I69h6fwL1E
> 
> Just saw several listers at the C&C Rendezvous in Newport. Great bunch of 
> people. So happy we were able to spend some time with them, even though we 
> came by car. 
> 
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Edd
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>> On September 20, 2014 11:31:59 AM Brent Driedger via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
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>> Sailors seasonal depression is already kicking in and the boat is still in 
>> the water! I put this together from the stern rail footage of our last race 
>> of the season.
>> This year my crew and I returned to white sails as a back to basics year. 
>> Our goal was achieved with 2nd place for the season in a fleet of  7 boats. 
>> Back to flying sails next year!
>> https://vimeo.com/106679764
>> 
>> Brent Driedger
>> C&C 27 MkV
>> s/v Wild Rover
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Re: Stus-List Racing my MkV video (now Lake Wabamun sailing)

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

David,

I know that Lake Wabamun (lived in Edmonton for 5 years); but I assumed that
despite the lake's size, you all must sail together. There is another C&C
around him; when I think about it, I think it is a 27 (not 26).

Marek

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Racing my MkV video (now Lake Wabamun sailing)

Marek I dont know him personally, and he has that boat on his own mooring
about mid-lake and is not affiliated with either yacht club. I was parked
next to him last year at crane out. If I see him this year I will definitely
say hi for you. We crane out on the 11th of October.

David Donnelly
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> David,
>
> I bet you sail with (or at least know) Gary (Meriachee) Hamilton, who 
> sails a Catalina 270 on the same lake. Say hi to him from me.
>
> Marek (in Ottawa)
>
> -Original Message-
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> David Donnelly via CnC-List
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>
> Mistress is now on Lake Wabamun which is about an hour drive west of 
> Edmonton. We are really happy with the boat so far.
>
> David
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> On September 20, 2014 7:23:27 PM Brent Driedger 
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> wrote:
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> > Thanks David. Where is Mistress now?
> >
> > Brent
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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> > > On Sep 20, 2014, at 6:07 PM, David Donnelly via CnC-List
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Nice video Brent. Your crew looks effcient.
> > >
> > > Mistress has few 2nd and 3rd in the flying sails at Gimli in her past.
> > Not racing anymore.
> > >
> > > Say high to Dale for me.
> > >
> > > David Donnelly
> > > C&C 26 Mistress
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> > >> On September 20, 2014 11:31:59 AM Brent Driedger via CnC-List
> >  wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Sailors seasonal depression is already kicking in and the boat is 
> > >> still
> > in the water! I put this together from the stern rail footage of our 
> > last race of the season.
> > >> This year my crew and I returned to white sails as a back to 
> > >> basics
> > year. Our goal was achieved with 2nd place for the season in a fleet 
> > of  7 boats. Back to flying sails next year!
> > >> https://vimeo.com/106679764
> > >>
> > >> Brent Driedger
> > >> C&C 27 MkV
> > >> s/v Wild Rover
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Re: Stus-List Annapolis boat show

[Chuck S via CnC-List]

I'd be up for meeting C&Cers at the boatshow. 
I like to go on the last day, Monday the 13th, spend the day at the show, then 
meet around 5pm at Pussers Carribean Grille upstairs. 
They usually have a good Reggae band. We could find a table inside if the band 
is too noisey. It's fun to watch the show tear down, which is 6 to 8pm, I 
think. I have a 2 1/2 hr drive home, and leaving later means avoiding a lot of 
traffic in Baltimore and Wilmington for me and a quicker trip home. 

I prefer the food and prices at the Boatyard but think it will be packed and 
little harder to find. Maybe you locals can suggest a better place or time? I'm 
open. 

My cell is 609-703-0790 

Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 C&C 34R 
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 

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From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list"  
To: "Joel Aronson" , "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" 
 
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 8:30:42 AM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Annapolis boat show 

No firm plans yet but I generally go on the Mondays. If so, I'd be up for it. 

Best, 
Dave 
1982 C&C 37 - Ronin 

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> On Sep 21, 2014, at 8:27, Joel Aronson via CnC-List  
> wrote: 
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> I'm planning to go to the boat show on Monday the 13th. 
> 
> Anyone else going interested in meeting for a cold one? 
> 
> Joel 
> 
> 
> -- 
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Stus-List Asymmetric Setup on C&C 26

[Sam Salter via CnC-List]

Last winters project - replacing my 3 blade fixed with a 2 blade folding 
Flexofold was really successful. I think I got 1/2 to 1 extra knot in lighter 
air, and better forward and reverse thrust. But it's very subjective as I'm 
comparing from memory.

This winter I think I'm going to finish sorting out the asymmetric.
I redid the masthead sheaves and fitted a spinnaker crane when I had the mast 
down a couple of seasons ago. This winter I'm thinking about getting an 
asymmetric kit from Sailrite and sewing it myself over the winter.

I'm looking for cockpit layout suggestions or comments from any 26 owners (or 
anyone else).
I'm probably going to launch from the bag, out of the companionway and over the 
starboard side. That's how we fly the asymmetric on my sailing buddies Hotfoot 
20. But the size and forces will be a lot more. Anyone see any concerns there?
Usually 2 of us sail the boat; Tiller steering.
What winches do you use? Those on the combing or the ones on the coach roof?
How do you have the tack line set up? Where are the tack line and halyard line 
led back to?
To clutch or cam cleat or ...? What side?

Any other advice or suggestions would be welcome.
(If I can get an extra 1/2 to 1 knot every winter, I'll be doing 15 knots in no 
time :-) )

sam :-)
C&C 26  Liquorice
Ghost Lake  Alberta


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Re: Stus-List Annapolis boat show

[Chuck S via CnC-List]

FYI Annapolis Sailboat Show 

Show webpage: 
http://www.annapolisboatshows.com/united-states-sailboat-show/ 

Video of show breakdown: 
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=united%20states%20sailboat%20show%20breakdown&qs=n&form=QBVR&pq=united%20states%20sailboat%20show%20breakdown&sc=0-28&sp=-1&sk=#view=detail&mid=2F3D678012BF172A15642F3D678012BF172A1564
 

Pusser's website: 
http://pussersusa.com/locations/annapolis-restaurant 

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To: "Dave Godwin" , "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" 
 
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 11:27:59 AM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Annapolis boat show 

I'd be up for meeting C&Cers at the boatshow. 
I like to go on the last day, Monday the 13th, spend the day at the show, then 
meet around 5pm at Pussers Carribean Grille upstairs. 
They usually have a good Reggae band. We could find a table inside if the band 
is too noisey. It's fun to watch the show tear down, which is 6 to 8pm, I 
think. I have a 2 1/2 hr drive home, and leaving later means avoiding a lot of 
traffic in Baltimore and Wilmington for me and a quicker trip home. 

I prefer the food and prices at the Boatyard but think it will be packed and 
little harder to find. Maybe you locals can suggest a better place or time? I'm 
open. 

My cell is 609-703-0790 

Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 C&C 34R 
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 

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From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list"  
To: "Joel Aronson" , "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" 
 
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 8:30:42 AM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Annapolis boat show 

No firm plans yet but I generally go on the Mondays. If so, I'd be up for it. 

Best, 
Dave 
1982 C&C 37 - Ronin 

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> On Sep 21, 2014, at 8:27, Joel Aronson via CnC-List  
> wrote: 
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> I'm planning to go to the boat show on Monday the 13th. 
> 
> Anyone else going interested in meeting for a cold one? 
> 
> Joel 
> 
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> -- 
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Re: Stus-List Annapolis boat show

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

The Fleet Reserve Club, next to Pusser's, is open to the public during the
show.  There isa covered   patio upstairs.  Food and drink choices are
limited, but it may be less crowded than   Pussers.


Joel

On Sunday, September 21, 2014, Chuck S via CnC-List 
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> FYI Annapolis Sailboat Show
>
> Show webpage:
> http://www.annapolisboatshows.com/united-states-sailboat-show/
>
> Video of show breakdown:
>
> http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=united%20states%20sailboat%20show%20breakdown&qs=n&form=QBVR&pq=united%20states%20sailboat%20show%20breakdown&sc=0-28&sp=-1&sk=#view=detail&mid=2F3D678012BF172A15642F3D678012BF172A1564
>
> Pusser's website:
> http://pussersusa.com/locations/annapolis-restaurant
>
> --
> *From: *"CNC boat owners, cnc-list"  >
> *To: *"Dave Godwin"  >, "CNC boat owners,
> cnc-list"  >
> *Sent: *Sunday, September 21, 2014 11:27:59 AM
> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Annapolis boat show
>
> I'd be up for meeting C&Cers at the boatshow.
> I like to go on the last day, Monday the 13th, spend the day at the show,
> then meet around 5pm at Pussers Carribean Grille upstairs.
> They usually have a good Reggae band.  We could find a table inside if the
> band is too noisey.  It's fun to watch the show tear down, which is 6 to
> 8pm, I think.  I have a 2 1/2 hr drive home, and leaving later means
> avoiding a lot of traffic in Baltimore and Wilmington for me and a quicker
> trip home.
>
> I prefer the food and prices at the Boatyard but think it will be packed
> and little harder to find.  Maybe you locals can suggest a better place or
> time?  I'm open.
>
> My cell is 609-703-0790
>
> Chuck
> Resolute
> 1990 C&C 34R
> Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md
>
> --
> *From: *"CNC boat owners, cnc-list"  >
> *To: *"Joel Aronson"  >, "CNC boat
> owners, cnc-list"  >
> *Sent: *Sunday, September 21, 2014 8:30:42 AM
> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Annapolis boat show
>
> No firm plans yet but I generally go on the Mondays. If so, I'd be up for
> it.
>
> Best,
> Dave
> 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Sep 21, 2014, at 8:27, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > wrote:
> >
> > I'm planning to go to the boat show on Monday the 13th.
> >
> > Anyone else going interested in meeting for a cold one?
> >
> > Joel
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> >
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Stus-List Annapolis boat show

[Robert Boyer via CnC-List]

I would be up for a meeting too.  Pussers has great drinks but terrible food 
unless you stick with appetizers only.  The Chart House is much better in my 
opinion and it would be a little further away from the boat show tear down 
mess.  Even though I'll be at the boat show on Saturday, I'm local and can meet 
on Monday evening...

Bob

Bob Boyer
S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD
1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230
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Re: Stus-List Annapolis boat show

[Monty Schumpert via CnC-List]

I'm going on Monday also so we can get together sometime toward the end of the 
day. My cell phone is 703-625-5488.

Monty
Scandia
1991 C&C 34+
Annapolis, MD

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> On Sep 21, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Chuck S via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I'd be up for meeting C&Cers at the boatshow. 
> I like to go on the last day, Monday the 13th, spend the day at the show, 
> then meet around 5pm at Pussers Carribean Grille upstairs. 
> They usually have a good Reggae band.  We could find a table inside if the 
> band is too noisey.  It's fun to watch the show tear down, which is 6 to 8pm, 
> I think.  I have a 2 1/2 hr drive home, and leaving later means avoiding a 
> lot of traffic in Baltimore and Wilmington for me and a quicker trip home.  
> 
> I prefer the food and prices at the Boatyard but think it will be packed and 
> little harder to find.  Maybe you locals can suggest a better place or time?  
> I'm open.
> 
> My cell is 609-703-0790
> 
> Chuck
> Resolute
> 1990 C&C 34R
> Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md
> 
> From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" 
> To: "Joel Aronson" , "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" 
> 
> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 8:30:42 AM
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Annapolis boat show
> 
> No firm plans yet but I generally go on the Mondays. If so, I'd be up for it.
> 
> Best,
> Dave
> 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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> > On Sep 21, 2014, at 8:27, Joel Aronson via CnC-List  
> > wrote:
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> > I'm planning to go to the boat show on Monday the 13th.
> > 
> > Anyone else going interested in meeting for a cold one?
> > 
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Re: Stus-List Anchor chain cover

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"A stitch in time saves nine", amazing how valid are some of the old sayings. 
If I had replaced the chain securing the anchor chain cover when I first 
noticed it my crew would not have dropped it overboard while anchoring in 
Suchia!

Would anyone in the Victoria/Sidney BC area have any ideas about finding a 
replacement? New one from the catalogues would likely require removal of the 
vertical tube housing and rebedding of the new one.

Thanks, Patrick

C&C 24, The Boat, Sidney BC

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> Burt,
> 
> If you replace the attachment fitting, consider one with a shoulder.  A 
> simple eye bolt may not be able to withstand as much side load as a 
> shouldered eye bolt or eve nut.  
> 
> From what you've described, there is some clearance on the underside of the 
> car.  Perhaps an eye nut bolted from underneath may work.  Look at this item:
> 
> 
> 
> It comes in 1/4 (400 lbs SWL), 5/16 (800 lbs SWL), 3/8 inch (1320 lbs SWL).  
> I have one of these and its eye bolt equivalent in 1/2 inch installed in 
> Touche' masthead for attaching spinnaker halyard blocks.
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> 
>> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> I really have no issues with my traveler except the attachment point for the 
>> mainsheet block. It is a 4:1 with dual end sheaves. I lubricated the captive 
>> track rollers and sheaves when I had it apart. It adjusts easily under a 
>> load. The adjusting line is continuous. I think the correct size stainless 
>> eye bolt will fill the bill and keep my hard earned $$ in my pocket to be 
>> used for more pressing things like a new AC electrical system and an 
>> isolated starting battery, new house bank batteries and a 2-bank charger.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Sam 
>> Salter via CnC-List
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 2:04 AM
>> To: CnC
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler components
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> ‎As an alternative, I replaced my traveler with Harken a few seasons ago. 
>> 
>> The track has a "T" slot on the bottom so the bolts slide into any position 
>> and use the existing holes from the original setup.
>> 
>> High quality, possibly a bit more expensive than Garhauer, adjusts under 
>> load, a great improvement over the original equipment.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> sam :-)
>> 
>> C&C 26 Liquorice 
>> 
>> Ghost Lake Alberta 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: kirk sneddon via CnC-List
>> 
>> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 7:30 PM
>> 
>> To: 'Paul Fountain'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> 
>> Reply To: kirk sneddon
>> 
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler components
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Very happy with the quality and service from Garhauer.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I also worked with Guido.  I replaced my traveler this spring. I sent them 
>> my old track and they used it as a drill template, so installation was easy 
>> with no new holes to drill.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> The Garhauer cars are low friction, and high quality. With the  increased 
>> mechanical advantage and continuous line it was a major improvement for 
>> modest sum.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Kirk Sneddon
>> 
>> C&C 29 MK II
>> 
>> Flying Cloud
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Paul 
>> Fountain via CnC-List
>> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 9:07 AM
>> To: Marek Dziedzic; 
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler components
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Have a garhauer traveller ... Works great!
>> 
>> Paul. :)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 15, 2014, at 8:18 AM, "Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List" 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I would second the idea of talking to Guido about the repairs.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Or better yet, talking to him about replacing the traveller. Their new cars 
>> are supposedly really good.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Marek
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Dennis C. via CnC-List
>> 
>> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:15 PM
>> 
>> To: Burt Stratton ; CnClist
>> 
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler components
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Burt,
>> 
>> You should have several options.  
>> 
>> You might consider talking to Guido or Mark at Garhauer Marine.  They may be 
>> able to make you a new and better car for a reasonable price.
>> 
>> I'm assuming there are sheaves on the ends of the car?  How much room is 
>> between the sheaves?  Enough to install a padeye with two fasteners?  That 
>> would hold up to the loads better than a single point attachment system.
>> 
>> Your description doesn't sound like a Harken car.  More like a Merriman or a 
>> Schaefer.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Dennis C.
>> 
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>> 
>> Mandeville, LA
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Took my salvage project to Newport this weekend. Beautiful sail down on 
>> Saturday. Front rolled through Sa

Re: Stus-List Annapolis boat show

[Chuck S via CnC-List]

Great idea Bob, 
It's tough to capture everyone's needs. 
Some people may be coming after the show with their cars at the football 
stadium while others will be parked nearby, or parked over in Eastport. If you 
are driving in purely for the C&C group, I can understand picking a place clear 
of the show, but I think most will be attending both? 

Pussers menu: 
http://issuu.com/pussers/docs/annap_dinner_menu_summer_2014 


Charthouse menu: 
http://www.chart-house.com/menus_pdf/CHAN_dinn.PD 


The Boatyard Grille is located over the bridge in Eastport and is more of a 
sailor's pub. I've enjoyed their crabcake and their Fish-n-Chips. 
Boatyard Grille menu: 
http://www.boatyardbarandgrill.com/features/main 

I personally like to watch the show breakdown, it's free and usually a great 
way to see some boats you missed and some interesting boat handling skills, 
while sipping adult beverages. What could be better? 

I'm open to all the suggestions so far. Let's see what else is suggested. 

Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 C&C 34R 
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 

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Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 4:39:15 PM 
Subject: Stus-List Annapolis boat show 

I would be up for a meeting too. Pussers has great drinks but terrible food 
unless you stick with appetizers only. The Chart House is much better in my 
opinion and it would be a little further away from the boat show tear down 
mess. Even though I'll be at the boat show on Saturday, I'm local and can meet 
on Monday evening... 

Bob 

Bob Boyer 
S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD 
1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230 
email: dainyr...@icloud.com 
blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com 

"There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply 
messing about in boats." --Kenneth Grahame 

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Stus-List c and c 29-2 mast cap.

[Bev Parslow via CnC-List]

We have a mast tower at the club. The main sheave needs to be replaced. Can we 
take off the cap at the mast tower and avoid hauling out the mast for the 
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Re: Stus-List Annapolis boat show

[Dave Godwin via CnC-List]

Let me throw this out: if folks are interested in getting together later/after 
the show I would be happy to host folks at Eastport Yacht Club. Something to 
think about…

Best,
Dave Godwin
1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit

On Sep 21, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Monty Schumpert via CnC-List 
 wrote:

> I'm going on Monday also so we can get together sometime toward the end of 
> the day. My cell phone is 703-625-5488.
> 
> Monty
> Scandia
> 1991 C&C 34+
> Annapolis, MD
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 21, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Chuck S via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
>> I'd be up for meeting C&Cers at the boatshow. 
>> I like to go on the last day, Monday the 13th, spend the day at the show, 
>> then meet around 5pm at Pussers Carribean Grille upstairs. 
>> They usually have a good Reggae band.  We could find a table inside if the 
>> band is too noisey.  It's fun to watch the show tear down, which is 6 to 
>> 8pm, I think.  I have a 2 1/2 hr drive home, and leaving later means 
>> avoiding a lot of traffic in Baltimore and Wilmington for me and a quicker 
>> trip home.  
>> 
>> I prefer the food and prices at the Boatyard but think it will be packed and 
>> little harder to find.  Maybe you locals can suggest a better place or time? 
>>  I'm open.
>> 
>> My cell is 609-703-0790
>> 
>> Chuck
>> Resolute
>> 1990 C&C 34R
>> Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md
>> 
>> From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" 
>> To: "Joel Aronson" , "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" 
>> 
>> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 8:30:42 AM
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Annapolis boat show
>> 
>> No firm plans yet but I generally go on the Mondays. If so, I'd be up for it.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Dave
>> 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> > On Sep 21, 2014, at 8:27, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
>> >  wrote:
>> > 
>> > I'm planning to go to the boat show on Monday the 13th.
>> > 
>> > Anyone else going interested in meeting for a cold one?
>> > 
>> > Joel
>> > 
>> > 
>> > -- 
>> > Joel 
>> > 301 541 8551
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Re: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

[Martin DeYoung via CnC-List]

Years after my wife sailed with me from Hawaii to Seattle and San Francisco (79 
and 81) she was able to articulate the difference in her perception of the 
trips and mine.



Sailing conditions I recall as "great" and "a good adventure" she perceived as 
"frightening" and "terrifying".



As others have mentioned the extra training in how to handle a sail boat and 
use the radio, auxiliary power, and how to dock with out damage could help 
change frightening to fun.



Martin

Calypso

1971 C&C 43

Seattle


From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of Chuck S via 
CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 7:15 AM
To: David Donnelly; CNC boat owners, cnc-list
Subject: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

David,
Well said.  I am learning late in life that many wives don't appreciate when a 
sailboat heels or as mine says, ". . . don't like when it leans".
And what I find challenging and fun about sailing like short tacking through a 
narrow channel or sailing hard on the wind close hauled, causes my wife anxiety 
or grief.  Just when the wind starts getting good, she usually asks to go 
somewhere for a swim.

I recently went sailing w a friend with the same problem.  His wife is very 
similar to mine. We've all been friends since before we married over twenty 
five years ago.  He wanted to show off his new boat and his wonderful country 
of Holland.  His plan; the guys went sailing for 10 days in Holland while the 
wives went touring by car through France.  I noticed most sailboat crews were 
guys, many skippers were alone, a very few white haired couples and the same 
number of twenty-ish couples.  My friend and I had a great time sailing 
whenever possible and remarked several times when the boat was making  8 to 9 
knots and heeled to 25 degrees, and we were having fun, "The girls would hate 
this."  One leg on the North Sea, we sailed w just the 110% downwind in 27 
knots wind making 9 knots boatspeed.  On the return, we had 18 to 20 knots on 
the nose.  Sailing would have taken longer, causing us to miss getting a slip, 
so we motorsailed w a reefed main making 8.3 knots.  The main steadied the boat 
so she maintained momentum and sliced better through the waves.  I remember 
playing w the vang to get a better shape to the top of the sail, because the 
boat had no traveller.  The girls would have hated it.


So, I'm looking for suggestions to keep both the boat and the wife, happy.


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Re: Stus-List c and c 29-2 mast cap.

[John Pennie via CnC-List]

Is the 29 keel stepped?  If so, I would say yes with the lowers holding 
everything in place in calm conditions for a few hours.

John

On Sep 21, 2014, at 7:14 PM, Bev Parslow via CnC-List  
wrote:

> We have a mast tower at the club. The main sheave needs to be replaced. Can 
> we take off the cap at the mast tower and avoid hauling out the mast for the 
> replacement?
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Re: Stus-List c and c 29-2 mast cap.

[Chuck S via CnC-List]

Not sure if your mast top is removable? Don't have the answer but a few things 
to consider. 
Ours has a welded top and the sheaves are removed through the front and back of 
the mast. I suppose it is possible if you remove the halyard to take the weight 
off the sheave. Then carefully secure the sheave with a length of line tight 
around the sheave with both ends outside the mast. Loose this and the sheave 
will fall down inside and possibly jamb up everything or fall to the step. 
Needle nose vise grips may work to grab the sheave and you can use a lanyard to 
secure the tool and the part. You probably have to use a hammer and punch to 
move the sheave axle, a Stainless Steel pin which probably supports another 
sheave? 

- Original Message -

From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list"  
To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list"  
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 7:14:36 PM 
Subject: Stus-List c and c 29-2 mast cap. 

We have a mast tower at the club. The main sheave needs to be replaced. Can we 
take off the cap at the mast tower and avoid hauling out the mast for the 
replacement? 

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Stus-List sailing under jib alone

[Robert Abbott via CnC-List]

I am not saying it hasn't happened, but how many of you guys (and gals) 
have seen a rig fail on a C&C..I have been sailing for approx. 40 
years and have witnessed rig failures but not one on a C&C.  I did see a 
'chain plate' get pulled up approx one inch threw the deck on a C&C 36 
but the crew got the rig depowered before any more damage could 
occurmain was up as well.


My 32 has a mast the size of a telephone pole, keel stepped, baby 
stay... and I sail with a 135% all the time and will continue to 
sail with the jib alone and will not feel threaten in any way shape or 
form about rig failure as long as my standing rigging is sound, as it 
should be!


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.




On 2014/09/19 5:35 PM, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List wrote:


> ... applies to fractional rigs without running back stays.  It could 
also apply to mast head rigs without back stays.<


What Fred said matches my understanding of why there may be some 
concern expressed by some sailors regarding sailing with head sails only.


In the very old days the ship's rudders were so small and weak 
balancing and steering the vessel by the location and trim of the 
sails was necessary.  Modern designs and construction methods allow us 
to compensate for an un-balanced rig with mechanical advantage and a 
strong rudder.


During the heyday of IOR designs, including fractional rigs, many 
designers and owners in search of the smallest advantage would put up 
a lightly built small section mast.  I recall seeing 4 and 5 spreader 
rigs on 40' boats with very small section mast extrusions.  Many of 
these rigs appreciated the additional fore and aft stabilization that 
the mainsail gave to the mast itself.  Many of these rigs went over 
the side owing to operator error.


For those of us sailing a well maintained non-custom (thinking 
Evergreen here) C&C design with the headsail only in most conditions 
but certainly in light air will not jeopardize the rig's stability.  
If you find yourself in heavy air "pounding" conditions it may be well 
to sight up the mast as the boat makes a hard landing to be sure the 
mast "pumping" (fore and aft") is under control.  In those extreme 
conditions some mainsail load may add some dampening to the mast pumping.


Martin

Calypso

1971 C&C 43

Seattle


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*From:*CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of 
*Fred Hazzard via CnC-List

*Sent:* Friday, September 19, 2014 12:36 PM
*To:* Joel Aronson; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List sailing under jib alone

I imagine that not sailing with jib only applies to fractional rigs 
without running back stays.  It could also apply to mast head rigs 
with out back stays.


Fred Hazzard

S/V Fury

C&C 44

Porland, Or

On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


All,

Earlier this week I went out for a lazy sail after work.  Unfurled the 
jib in 10 knots of wind and decided I was too lazy to remove the main 
cover and hoist the main.


I've read that sailing under only jib is bad because it places an 
uneven load on the rigging.  Seems to me that the load is minimal in 
light air and the total load is a lot less under one sail.


Thoughts?

Joel

35/3

Annapolis



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Re: Stus-List c and c 29-2 mast cap.

[Tim Goodyear via CnC-List]

On the 35-3, you would not have to affect the standing rigging to change a 
sheave.  It should be possible from a bosun's chair (at the crane or on other 
halyards).  I would suggest going up to check what it looks like before 
gathering the right tools and planning the job.  On the 35-3, the sheaves are 
rigged similar to those on the boom.  There is a stainless cover over one end 
of the sheave axle.  When that is removed, you should be able to push the axle 
out and remove the sheave (holding it as others suggested).  Yours may be 
different, but it may not be necessary to remove the mast cap.

Tim
Mojito
35-3 Branford, CT

> On Sep 21, 2014, at 7:14 PM, Bev Parslow via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> We have a mast tower at the club. The main sheave needs to be replaced. Can 
> we take off the cap at the mast tower and avoid hauling out the mast for the 
> replacement?
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Re: Stus-List c and c 29-2 mast cap.

[Sam Salter via CnC-List]

‎On my 26 the mast cap comes off as one unit with the main and 2 jib halyard sheaves all together. It's then quite easy to do the sheaves at the workbench.   sam :-) From: Tim Goodyear via CnC-ListSent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 8:08 PMTo: Bev Parslow; cnc-list@cnc-list.comReply To: Tim GoodyearSubject: Re: Stus-List c and c 29-2 mast cap.On the 35-3, you would not have to affect the standing rigging to change a sheave.  It should be possible from a bosun's chair (at the crane or on other halyards).  I would suggest going up to check what it looks like before gathering the right tools and planning the job.  On the 35-3, the sheaves are rigged similar to those on the boom.  There is a stainless cover over one end of the sheave axle.  When that is removed, you should be able to push the axle out and remove the sheave (holding it as others suggested).  Yours may be different, but it may not be necessary to remove the mast cap.TimMojito35-3 Branford, CTOn Sep 21, 2014, at 7:14 PM, Bev Parslow via CnC-List  wrote:We have a mast tower at the club. The main sheave needs to be replaced. Can we take off the cap at the mast tower and avoid hauling out the mast for the replacement?___This List is provided by the C&C Photo AlbumEmail address:CnC-List@cnc-list.comTo change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com___
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Re: Stus-List Anchor chain cover

[Russ & Melody via CnC-List]

Hi Patrick,

Try the Sidney Sailor exchange (or whatever they 
call the damn thing these days, humbug).

http://www.theboaters-exchange.com/

It might take some time wading through all the 
old stuff but I wouldn't be surprised if you find 
what you need. BTW, take a pencil rub of your 
deck pipe oval so you can match it.


Cheers, Russ
Sweet 35 mk-1

"There comes a time in a man's life when he hears the call of the sea.
If the man has a brain in his head, he will hang 
up the phone immediately." -- Dave Barry



At 02:03 PM 21/09/2014, you wrote:
"A stitch in time saves nine", amazing how valid 
are some of the old sayings. If I had replaced 
the chain securing the anchor chain cover when I 
first noticed it my crew would not have dropped 
it overboard while anchoring in Suchia!


Would anyone in the Victoria/Sidney BC area have 
any ideas about finding a replacement? New one 
from the catalogues would likely require removal 
of the vertical tube housing and rebedding of the new one.


Thanks, Patrick

C&C 24, The Boat, Sidney BC

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 16, 2014, at 8:36 AM, "Dennis C. via 
CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:



Burt,

If you replace the attachment fitting, consider 
one with a shoulder.  A simple eye bolt may not 
be able to withstand as much side load as a shouldered eye bolt or eve nut.


From what you've described, there is some 
clearance on the underside of the 
car.  Perhaps an eye nut bolted from underneath may work.  Look at this item:


<http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/product.do?part=36382&engine=adwords!6456&keyword=product_ad&gclid=CLz8pKyG5sACFSgV7AodOBIAxQ>

It comes in 1/4 (400 lbs SWL), 5/16 (800 lbs 
SWL), 3/8 inch (1320 lbs SWL).  I have one of 
these and its eye bolt equivalent in 1/2 inch 
installed in Touche' masthead for attaching spinnaker halyard blocks.


Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Burt Stratton 
via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:


I really have no issues with my traveler except 
the attachment point for the mainsheet block. 
It is a 4:1 with dual end sheaves. I lubricated 
the captive track rollers and sheaves when I 
had it apart. It adjusts easily under a load. 
The adjusting line is continuous. I think the 
correct size stainless eye bolt will fill the 
bill and keep my hard earned $$ in my pocket to 
be used for more pressing things like a new AC 
electrical system and an isolated starting 
battery, new house bank batteries and a 2-bank charger.




From: CnC-List 
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Sam Salter via CnC-List

Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 2:04 AM
To: CnC
Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler components



‎As an alternative, I replaced my traveler with Harken a few seasons ago.

The track has a "T" slot on the bottom so the 
bolts slide into any position and use the 
existing holes from the original setup.


High quality, possibly a bit more expensive 
than Garhauer, adjusts under load, a great 
improvement over the original equipment.




sam :-)

C&C 26 Liquorice

Ghost Lake Alberta



From: kirk sneddon via CnC-List

Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 7:30 PM

To: 'Paul Fountain'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Reply To: kirk sneddon

Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler components



Very happy with the quality and service from Garhauer.



I also worked with Guido.  I replaced my 
traveler this spring. I sent them my old track 
and they used it as a drill template, so 
installation was easy with no new holes to drill.




The Garhauer cars are low friction, and high 
quality. With the  increased mechanical 
advantage and continuous line it was a major improvement for modest sum.




Kirk Sneddon

C&C 29 MK II

Flying Cloud



From: CnC-List 
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] 
On Behalf Of Paul Fountain via CnC-List

Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 9:07 AM
To: Marek Dziedzic; <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler components



Have a garhauer traveller ... Works great!

Paul. :)




On Sep 15, 2014, at 8:18 AM, "Marek Dziedzic 
via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:


I would second the idea of talking to Guido about the repairs.



Or better yet, talking to him about replacing 
the traveller. Their new cars are supposedly really good.




Marek



From: Dennis C. via CnC-List

Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:15 PM

To: Burt 
Stratton ; CnClist


Subject: Re: Stus-List Traveler components



Burt,

You should have several options.

You might consider talking to Guido or Mark at 
Garhauer M

Re: Stus-List c and c 29-2 mast cap.

[Russ & Melody via CnC-List]

Hi Bev,

Removing the masthead crane (the thing you're calling a cap) will 
require dropping the forestay & backstay, for most older rigs. This 
is an unusual practice if servicing at a mast tower. If you have a 
roller furling jib then it's definitely not worth the bother.


Normally you secure the sheave and drive out the axle, as others have 
mentioned. The best way to secure the sheave... and it is very 
important to secure he sheave, is to attach a length of PVC tape 
(commonly called "electricians tape") to some small stuff (string) 
and lay the tape into the sheave. Rotate sheave to retrieve the tape 
and continue to pull the string through. When you have the string 
end, hitch it to the "other" part then tighten down to lasso the 
sheave. This way it is captured and will not fall very far down into 
the mast if you lose control of it.


Cheers, Russ
Sweet 35 mk-1

"There comes a time in a man's life when he hears the call of the sea.
If the man has a brain in his head, he will hang up the phone 
immediately." -- Dave Barry



At 04:14 PM 21/09/2014, you wrote:
We have a mast tower at the club. The main sheave needs to be 
replaced. Can we take off the cap at the mast tower and avoid 
hauling out the mast for the replacement?

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