Re: Stus-List Winch for sale?
I scanned my old Barient catalogue, and Stu put it up on the photoalbum under "winches". I also sent it to Allen at L-36.com. Stu's version is a little compromised size-wise, but the L-36 version is the full-size scan. http://l-36.com/barient_catalog.php Almost all the Barient winches and their power ratio are shown so you can compare to other winch brands. The power ratio using a 10" handle compares directly to the nominal winch sizing that Lewmar, Andersen, etc. use. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 20 June 2014 20:01, Chuck S via CnC-List wrote: > Dennis, > Like your idea. I moved my winches from a flat spot to a curved surface > on the cabintop, so I epoxied 1/4" think fiberglass plates to the cabintop > to provide a flat mounting boss for the winches. I filleted the edges and > painted the whole so it looks factory. Underneath there are 1/4" aluminum > backing plates. I waxed them heavily before buttering them w epoxy to the > cabin ceiling, and thru boltng the winches. > > Chuck > Resolute > 1990 C&C 34R > Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md > > -- > *From: *"CNC boat owners, cnc-list" > *To: *"dwight" > *Cc: *"CNC boat owners, cnc-list" > *Sent: *Friday, June 20, 2014 8:17:14 PM > > *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Winch for sale? > > Dwight, > > I upgraded my cabin top winches from Barlow 10's to Barient 22's. That's > quite an increase in power ratio. We race so we're cranking a lot of > tension on the genoa halyard. The first time we REALLY tensioned the genoa > halyard, the cabin top deformed and creaked. The winch tilted forward > slightly. > > I made 1/4 inch thick plates of roving and epoxied them under the cabin > top. The plates extend forward of the winches for a couple inches to > spread the load. They must be epoxied because a simple backing plate would > just separate from the underdecking forward of the winches. > > Now the deck is strengthened, solid and doesn't deform when one of my > gorilla crew members decides to grind the heck out of the genoa halyard. > > Dennis C. > Touche' 35-1 #83 > Mandeville, LA > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 7:48 PM, dwight wrote: > >> I replaced my cabin top single speed Barient 10 main halyard winch with >> a Barient 18, 2 speed that I had lying around the garage from days gone >> by…I did not consider strengthening the mounting area because I figured the >> loads would essentially be the same… the cabin top where the winch is >> mounted on the 35 MKII is quite thick and soild GRP. I do not expect any >> strength related issues from the winch change…the Barient 18 two speed >> seemed to fit the size of the boat better but the Barient 10 actually did >> the job quite well…I would not have made the change if not for having a >> perfectly good winch just lying around doing nothing special >> >> >> -- >> >> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Dennis >> C. via CnC-List >> *Sent:* June 20, 2014 7:54 PM >> *To:* Stevan Plavsa; cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Winch for sale? >> >> >> >> Steve, >> >> >> >> If memory serves me, Barients and Barlow winches are rated in pounds. >> So, a Barient 18 would handle 1800 pounds of load. >> >> >> >> Modern winches are numbered by power ratio (with 10 inch handle). So to >> find an equivalent winch, determine the power ratio of your winch and look >> for the Lewmar, Harken, etc. that best matches. >> >> >> >> Also look at the base diameter. You probably want to cover the footprint >> of the old winch. >> >> >> >> If you're replacing a cabin top winch with a more powerful winch, you may >> need to strengthen the mounting area. This is NOT as simple as just >> installing a backing plate. >> >> >> >> Dennis C. >> >> Touché 35-1 #83 >> >> Mandeville, LA >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> On Jun 20, 2014, at 11:28 AM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >> Good timing. I have a related question, what would be the equivalent in >> an Anderson or other from current manufacturers? Is there a guide somewhere >> to sizing winches? My main is sheeted using a Barient 18 and I'de like to >> replace it with an ST. >> >> >> >> I have a pair of chrome (SS?) Barient 28s if anyone is interested. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Steve >> >> Suhana, C&C 32 >> >> Toronto >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Tim Goodyear via CnC-List < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >> I have most of one; I think Barient 19 self tailer. The boat yard was >> servicing it this spring and dropped part of the line stripper in the >> water. As we had agreed a launch date and the part needed to come from >> Australia they gave me a new winch at cost / free installation. I can >> look up the # and the missing part when we're back home Monday (we're just >> heading over to Port Jefferson for the w/e) if you are interested. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Tim >> >> Mojito >> >> C&C 35-3 >>
Stus-List hull number distinction between 38 and Landfall 38
Hi, When I first purchased my LF38 I was a bit surprised with the CCY hull number as I thought I read somewhere that the Landfalls were build in Canada. I know that the LF38 shares the same hull as the 38, but what in the hull id distinguishes a LF38 from a 38? I have always assumed that my hull number 88 was that out of the LF38's only. I am guessing that all LF38's are build in the USA and all 38’s are built in Canada and as such the later would have ZCC hull id. is this correct? Here is my LF38 hull id: CCY38088M81D CCY:C&C built in Rhode Island 38: model length (but FL title list 37’) 088:hull # 088 M: model year format 81: model year 1981 D: built in November - Paul E. 1981 C&C Landfall 38 S/V Johanna Rose Carrabelle, FL ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List hull number distinction between 38 and Landfall 38
Paul — as far as I know, the LF’s were all built in Rhode Island. And the hull differences lie primarily in the keel design; while the original 38 has a deep fin keel, the LF38 has a shallower-draft, but longer, keel. The 38’s draw between 6’-1” and 7’-7”, while the LF38 draws 4’-11”. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI FINALLY launched!!! On Jun 21, 2014, at 10:40 AM, PME via CnC-List wrote: > Hi, > > When I first purchased my LF38 I was a bit surprised with the CCY hull number > as I thought I read somewhere that the Landfalls were build in Canada. I > know that the LF38 shares the same hull as the 38, but what in the hull id > distinguishes a LF38 from a 38? I have always assumed that my hull number > 88 was that out of the LF38's only. > > I am guessing that all LF38's are build in the USA and all 38’s are built in > Canada and as such the later would have ZCC hull id. is this correct? > > > Here is my LF38 hull id: CCY38088M81D > > CCY: C&C built in Rhode Island > 38: model length (but FL title list 37’) > 088: hull # 088 > M:model year format > 81: model year 1981 > D:built in November > > > - > Paul E. > 1981 C&C Landfall 38 > S/V Johanna Rose > Carrabelle, FL ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Annapolis to Bermuda Race nearing finish
Thanks Dennis. Impromptu does like light air and we worked hard to keep the boat moving consistently. Fortunately it also does pretty well in heavy air. The return home had much heavier weather and we were able to keep the boat moving upwind in over 30 knots through a rough Gulfstream passage with a storm trysail and heavily reefed jib. Back at the dock at 6:20 this morning and happy to be home! Hope that you guys also had a good ride home. Steve From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 12:09 PM To: Dennis C. ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Annapolis to Bermuda Race nearing finish Steve’s keel/centerboard arrangement was perfect for this light air race; he was able to smoke almost everyone through the Chesapeake, and he even caught up with many of the Class 1 and 2 boats. Kinda depressing that it took us almost three days to get out of the Bay… Also, we were one of several boats (mostly Class 1) that paid for and attending a weather briefing by Jennifer Clark. The Office was the only boat in the briefing that following the weather routing. We actually did make up some time once we were out of the Chesapeake, but by then, it was a bit late. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Jun 12, 2014, at 8:55 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote: Looks like Steve Sharkey's Impromptu may finish first in PHRF-3 class. He's about 70 miles out and leads the next boats by about 12 miles. Hard to tell but he looks pretty good for corrected time also. http://www.bermudaoceanrace.com/race-overview/2014tracker Joel needs some breeze to catch up. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List change of handle
Mike: Call Philip Stevens, Sealand Industries, in Chester and get a price from him to go get your boat and truck it home. I bet your will spend at least half the cost of going to get it yourself and sail it back, plus a week's vacation, added to the risk of sailing a new boat you know nothing about on a 400 mile trip. The boat probably does not come with a 'liferaft' and if you can't borrow one for the trip, you will have to rent one for a week and that's another few $hundred bucks$. You will get different opinions but that's what I would do. Congrats on the new boat.look forward to seeing it at the club. Rob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2014/06/20 11:18 PM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote: We have just made a change from a racy and fun J/27 to a cruise CArroll Marine Frees 33. New boat located in Dartmouth, Massachusetts and needs to get to Halifax, NS. Sail it, have it delivered by water or by road. Thoughts? Mike ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List change of handle
If it was my new boat I couldn't wait to sail it. I'd take a week or so to do the trip (this assumes it passed a good survey). I'd plan to leave Dartmouth and get the boat sorted out over the course of a day heading for the C Cod Canal and then stop at one end. I'd probably spend the next day sorting through any problems and getting to know the boat better. Depending on the forecast, I'd either go to Provincetown or Marblehead the next day. probably Marblehead because from P-town it's a long overnight to NS. from M-head, I'd head up the coast to Portland ME and then start thinking about weather and departure points for NS. All this while I'd be learning the boat and getting more comfortable with her. When the weather was right, I'd hop over to Yarmouth and then up the coast in hops to Halifax. By the time I arrived, I'd have the boat sparkling and have gotten to know her very well...and have a mile-long list of things to do. Cost may well be more than hauling the rig and dismantling for trucking then putting her back together again at the other end, but I doubt it. And the adventure and experience would be priceless! YMMV Andy C&C 40 Peregrine On 2014/06/20 11:18 PM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote: > > We have just made a change from a racy and fun J/27 to a cruise CArroll > Marine Frees 33. New boat located in Dartmouth, Massachusetts and needs to > get to Halifax, NS. Sail it, have it delivered by water or by road. > Thoughts? > > Mike > > -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Launch
I am pleased to report that the boat has been launched and that the launch went smoothly; the engine (Yanmar 3HM) fired right up and has plenty of power in reverse, (2 blade fixed prop); the only thing I wasn't ready for was, when under power, there is a steady pull to port, like when a car is out of alignment;is this a normal thing or should I be looking for some adjustment? Tomorrow we hoist the sails! It is reaay nice to be back on the water, 93 degrees and all! Richard 1985 37 CB Ohio River Mile 600 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List change of handle
Hi Mike and Robert IMHO that Frers 33 is a speedy well built boat and I think a very fun boat to sail and from what I could find out I liked it a lot, there were none around here to see.I checked one out quite seriously before I got Alianna and even still I wonder if I made the right choice for me and what I like to do on the water.Mike, I would like to crew with you for a day when you get her home because I would like to feel what a Frers 33 is like under sail, nothing to do with meeting 7you; sorry.I want to feel her trimmed for performance; maybe Robert would like that too.I'll bring the treats.coud be a good day on the water.you will have enough cruising comforts in your new boat and there wont be many cruisers blowin by you upwind _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert Abbott via CnC-List Sent: June 21, 2014 1:47 PM To: Hoyt, Mike; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List change of handle Mike: Call Philip Stevens, Sealand Industries, in Chester and get a price from him to go get your boat and truck it home. I bet your will spend at least half the cost of going to get it yourself and sail it back, plus a week's vacation, added to the risk of sailing a new boat you know nothing about on a 400 mile trip. The boat probably does not come with a 'liferaft' and if you can't borrow one for the trip, you will have to rent one for a week and that's another few $hundred bucks$. You will get different opinions but that's what I would do. Congrats on the new boat.look forward to seeing it at the club. Rob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2014/06/20 11:18 PM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote: We have just made a change from a racy and fun J/27 to a cruise CArroll Marine Frees 33. New boat located in Dartmouth, Massachusetts and needs to get to Halifax, NS. Sail it, have it delivered by water or by road. Thoughts? Mike ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4592 / Virus Database: 3972/7695 - Release Date: 06/17/14 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Annapolis to Bermuda Race nearing finish
Steve, You guys did a great job. It's always nice to see a C&C sailed well. As of earlier today, The Office was still about 200 miles from Norfolk. Jake Jake Brodersen "Midnight Mistress" C&C 35 Mk-III Hampton Va From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Steve Sharkey via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 12:14 PM To: Frederick G Street; Dennis C.; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Annapolis to Bermuda Race nearing finish Thanks Dennis. Impromptu does like light air and we worked hard to keep the boat moving consistently. Fortunately it also does pretty well in heavy air. The return home had much heavier weather and we were able to keep the boat moving upwind in over 30 knots through a rough Gulfstream passage with a storm trysail and heavily reefed jib. Back at the dock at 6:20 this morning and happy to be home! Hope that you guys also had a good ride home. Steve ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Launch
That's pretty normal; it's just the forward equivalent of prop walk in reverse. Andy C&C 40 Peregrine Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 > On Jun 21, 2014, at 14:57, "Richard N. Bush via CnC-List" > wrote: > > I am pleased to report that the boat has been launched and that the launch > went smoothly; the engine (Yanmar 3HM) fired right up and has plenty of power > in reverse, (2 blade fixed prop); the only thing I wasn't ready for was, when > under power, there is a steady pull to port, like when a car is out of > alignment;is this a normal thing or should I be looking for some > adjustment? > > Tomorrow we hoist the sails! It is reaay nice to be back on the water, > 93 degrees and all! > > Richard > 1985 37 CB Ohio River Mile 600 > > 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine > Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 > 502-584-7255 > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
