Re: Stus-List [SPAM]Re: self-cleaning shaft

[Jake Brodersen]

Rich,

 

No it didn’t, but the pics on the micro SD card were saved…

 

Jake

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Knowles Rich
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 11:03 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List [SPAM]Re: self-cleaning shaft

 

Dud the phone work?  Heh heh. 

Rich Knowles

Indigo. LF38

Halifax


On 2013-09-03, at 23:00, "Jake Brodersen"  wrote:

Dave,

 

I often find that the waters of the Patuxent River are pretty clear.  One of my 
crew dropped his phone overboard a couple years ago.  I was able to see it and 
pick it up during my morning cleaning routine.  The visibility in the south end 
of the bay is usually poor, although this summer it has been much better than 
usual.  I can actually see my fins from time to time…and they’re bright yellow.

 

The crabs down here have not been so good either.  I hear a lot of complaints 
from the watermen.  It’s a tough way to make a living.

 

Jake 

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Re: Stus-List [SPAM]Re: self-cleaning shaft

[Knowles Rich]

Excellent!  They usually crap out pretty quickly in salt water. 

Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax

On 2013-09-04, at 7:14, "Jake Brodersen"  wrote:

Rich,
 
No it didn’t, but the pics on the micro SD card were saved…
 
Jake
 
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Knowles Rich
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 11:03 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List [SPAM]Re: self-cleaning shaft
 
Dud the phone work?  Heh heh. 

Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax

On 2013-09-03, at 23:00, "Jake Brodersen"  wrote:

Dave,
 
I often find that the waters of the Patuxent River are pretty clear.  One of my 
crew dropped his phone overboard a couple years ago.  I was able to see it and 
pick it up during my morning cleaning routine.  The visibility in the south end 
of the bay is usually poor, although this summer it has been much better than 
usual.  I can actually see my fins from time to time…and they’re bright yellow.
 
The crabs down here have not been so good either.  I hear a lot of complaints 
from the watermen.  It’s a tough way to make a living.
 
Jake
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Re: Stus-List C&C smile - wet keel bolts

[Hoyt, Mike]

Good idea Bill except that the boat will sink 
 
Seriously though - I have put garbord drain in my last two boats.  Very
difficult to put at absolute lowest part of bilge but it does ensure
there is never a serious water buildup over the off season.  Water
collecting in a boat on the hard does nasty things
 
Actually I install mine from the inside and completely fair over the
outside.  There is no bulge or any trace of the garbord drain and it has
zero effect on flow over the keel this way.  Previous boat I did from
the outside and there was a slight bulge.
 
Mike



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Coleman
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 7:10 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C smile - wet keel bolts



Find the lowest part of your bilge and drill a hole then epoxy a 
Garboard Drain/Plug in .

 

Bill Coleman

C&C 39  

 

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Stevan Plavsa
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 9:00 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C smile - wet keel bolts

 

Count me among those with water constantly in the bilge. The past two
winters with the boat out of the water there has been no evidence of a
smile but I have been concerned with the bilge and it always having
water in it. Keel stepped, when it rains, water in the bilge. Aside from
that any condensation in the boat, the stuffing box (which needs
repacking), etc, and I have water in the bilge, all the time.

 

Steve

Suhana, C&C 32

Toronto

 

On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Hoyt, Mike 
wrote:

John and others

In the reply below you reference the problems from wet stainless in
oxygen deprived environment.  I have heard this comment several times
before also.

I am not aware of a large nimber of sailboats that do not have some
water in th bilge most if not all the time.  Since this is where the
kell bolts are torgued with the nuts it seem that this would count as
wet and oxygen deprived.  Am I missing something or are we all in
imminent danger?

Mike

Nut Case


-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of John
and Maryann Read
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 5:56 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C smile

Hi Bill

If your keelboats are leaking, then your smile has progressed to the
point
of more than stuffing in some bondo and the need for some redoing the
keel /
sump seal itself to prevent leaks.  Remember that the keel bolts are
stainless which will degrade when wet in an oxygen deprived environment
which is what happens when the keel / sump seal is compromised.  A good
starting place would be get the opinion of your local fiberglass repair
shop.  I believe this subject is also well covered in the archives of
this
list as well as the DIY section of the photoalbum.

To be absolutely sure, the preferred process at haul out would be to 1)
lower the keel, 2)  clean, fair and prep the mating surfaces, 3)
reattach
the keel with a preferred adhesive / sealant, 4)  properly torque the
keel
bolts, 5) grind and fair both sides of the joint by at least a foot, 6)
apply fiberglass as a fairing, 7)  fair the fiberglass, 8)  apply
several
coats of barrier coat then bottom paint.

If this is too much, then you can try digging out all bondo and as best
you
can expose the joint as deeply as possible.  Clean it to provide a good
sealing surface.  Stuff in your sealant, then proceed at step 4.

Fiberglass tape provides negligible structural integrity.  The keel
bolts
and adhesive at the sump / keel joint do that.  The tape is to fair the
joint.  If there is insufficient structural integrity, the keel will
flex
and break the tape bond.

Hope this helps



John and Maryann
Legacy III
1982 C&C 34
Noank, CT
-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Connon
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 1:26 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List C&C smile

I've been fixing the smile with Bondo over the past few years. This
season
I've noticed that I'm getting some sea water into the bilge ( along with
rainwater that comes down the mast ). On haulout this year I'm planning
on
making a more permanent fix. Has anybody used G-Flex epoxy for this
project?
I plan on using thickened epoxy to fill the gap and then use wetted out
fibreglass tape to strengthen the joint.
Comments, ideas and suggestions would be appreciated.

Bill
Caprice 1
1978 C&C 36

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Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic

[Della Barba, Joe]

Their boat is very well thought out for passagemaking. Plumb bow, transom stern 
with little overhang, big A sail on a sprit, and fat-head main are not only 
19th century Bristol Channel Cutters, but 21st century race boats too and 
J-105s/120s etc. if you leave the square-top main off. Also note wood is the 
original carbon fiber :)

My offshore experience is perhaps biased, having the luck (good/bad not sure 
which) to have spent a lot of time in bad weather. The 35 is very exciting, 
very fast, very wet, and very rough riding in storm conditions. Tons of fun for 
a good crew but maybe a lot of work for an older couple.

Joe Della Barba
Coquina


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Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 6:07 PM
To: ja...@jpiworldwide.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the Atlantic

The Pardeys' boat is much more seakindly than a C&C.  It's not just about size.

Cheers
Colin


On 9/3/13, J.P.  wrote:
> And what about Lynn and Larry Pardey? J
>
>
>
> JP
>
>
>
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of 
> Indigo
> Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 2:33 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the 
> Atlantic
>
>
>
> Lots of very valid points - but as far as size, storage space is 
> concerned, I am reminded that Sir Robin Knox Johnston sailed non stop 
> round the world
> -
> taking 10 months - in a 32 ft ketch. Clearly the number of crew will 
> determine the amount of food, gear, water etc needed.  Keep the crew 
> size down, and I am sure a 35Mk1 will cope easily with a crossing of 
> the pond
>
>
>
> Jonathan
>
>
>
>   _
>
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of 
> Della Barba, Joe
> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 1:59 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List How would you prepare a C&C to cross the 
> Atlantic
>
>
>
> Reasons and methods to go across:
>
>
>
> 1.   Delivery: you need the boat on the other side of the ocean. Add a
> liferaft and EPIRB and go. Fix anything that looks defective. This is 
> what a paid crew would do. Pick time and route to avoid "perfect 
> storms". The boat will remain on the other side and not used as a 
> trans-ocean commuter. Avoid extensive mods by picking a good time of 
> year to go.
>
>
>
> 2.   Stunt: You want to prove that YOUR boat can make it across. We all
> know the bigger C&Cs can do this, but who will be the first 27 or SR21 
> across? I know someone who crossed the pond in a Cal 20 along these lines.
> Pay up the life insurance or be really good with weather routing.
>
>
>
> 3.   Conversion to a passagemaker: You want your boat to be equipped
> for
> ocean crossings as a routine trip. This will cost some $$$ to do right 
> and most of the smaller C&Cs will have near-unfixable handicaps 
> compared to boats made for this. To take my own 35 as an example, the 
> boat surely can sail across the ocean as easily - or not - as she has 
> made Bermuda. What will get to you is lack of fuel, lack of water, 
> lack of dry storage, lack of storage that isn't under a bunk, wet 
> ride, and quick motion. Like most shallow-bilged production fin keel 
> boats, my bilge is shallow enough that water is all over the place in 
> rough seas, not trapped down in a deep bilge sump. This can be quite 
> annoying. Steering in big seas at speed is HARD. It is really fun to 
> hit 15 knots, but it is also HARD work. Might be a lot for a small 
> crew. I could buy a Landfall 38 easier than I could make my boat a 
> Landfall equivalent and that isn't even straying outside the C&C family.
> I'd
> rather be in something like a Pacific Seacraft 38 if it were just two 
> or three of us.
>
>
>
> Joe Della Barba
>
> Coquina
>
> C&C 35 MK I
>
>

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Stus-List Best Navigation app for android

[Terry]

Hello, I am looking for the best full-featured navigation app for an Samsung-S4 
smartphone with the Android operating system. Any suggestions from users?

Thanks...

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Re: Stus-List Best Navigation app for android

[Pierre Tremblay]

I'm using Marine Navigator on my Galaxy Nexus as a backup to my plotter. Last 
summer, I had no plotter, only the lite version of Marine navigator (plus the 
paper charts). I use BSB charts with it.
 
Pierre Tremblay
Avalanche
C&C38-3 WK
 


 De : Terry 
À : cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Envoyé le : mercredi 4 Septembre 2013 13h25
Objet : Stus-List Best Navigation app for android
  


Hello, I am 
looking for the best full-featured navigation app for an Samsung-S4 smartphone 
with the Android operating system. Any suggestions from users? 

Thanks... 

Terry 
Johnson
S/V Ozymandias
E-mail: tj...@comcast.net
Website: 
www.tj622.com 
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Re: Stus-List Best Navigation app for android

[Terry]

Pierre, can you get a chart set for Mexico?

From: Pierre Tremblay 
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 10:35 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Best Navigation app for android

I'm using Marine Navigator on my Galaxy Nexus as a backup to my plotter. Last 
summer, I had no plotter, only the lite version of Marine navigator (plus the 
paper charts). I use BSB charts with it.

Pierre Tremblay
Avalanche
C&C38-3 WK

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À : cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Envoyé le : mercredi 4 Septembre 2013 13h25
Objet : Stus-List Best Navigation app for android



Hello, I am looking for the best full-featured navigation app for an Samsung-S4 
smartphone with the Android operating system. Any suggestions from users?

Thanks...

Terry Johnson
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Stus-List Job opening for seasoned sailor

[Bill Bina]

Thought I would pass this along...



Article published Sep 4, 2013
*Wanted: captain for 172-year-old whaleship*
By Joe Wojtas  Day Staff Writer
*Seaport seeking first Charles W. Morgan skipper in 92 years*
*Mystic* - The Charles W. Morgan is about to get its first captain in 92 
years.
Mystic Seaport, which has been restoring the 172-year-old wooden 
whaleship for the past four years so it can sail to historic ports 
across New England next summer, is advertising for someone to captain 
the ship leading up to and during its 38th voyage.
"The Morgan has not had a captain in more than 90 years and who knows 
how long it will be after this voyage," Dana Hewson, the museum's vice 
president for Watercraft Preservation and Programs, said Tuesday. "So I 
think this will be a much sought-after position."
Seaport officials said the captain not only will have to be a top-notch 
mariner but also must be comfortable in front of the public because of 
the media attention and crowds the ship will attract during its 
three-month trip next summer.
"They have to be absolutely qualified to manage this artifact, which has 
national and international importance," Hewson said of the candidates. 
"They also have to embrace the role of the public nature of this endeavor."
He said that could mean interacting with everyone from the media and 
passengers to governors of the states they are visiting.
Applicants must possess a 500-ton Near Coastal Master license and have 
10 years of command experience on traditional sailing vessels with 
extensive knowledge in square-rig sailing, according to the job 
description on the museum website.
It adds that the captain must recognize the ship "as the premier 
artifact in the museum's collection as well as one of the nation's most 
important historic objects. Her safety and well-being will be paramount 
in all decisions."
The Morgan, whose last voyage ended in 1921, is the world's last 
surviving wooden whaling ship and a National Historic Landmark. It also 
holds the distinction of being the country's oldest commercial vessel 
still afloat. A total of $7 million eventually will be spent on its 
restoration and voyage.
Hewson said the museum has seen interest in the position from people in 
the field.
"It's a relatively small world, so it's certainly been known in the 
field that we'd be doing this," he said.
The restored Morgan was launched during a ceremony in July. While the 
majority of the work to the hull is complete, shipyard workers have to 
replace spars, rig the ship, fit it with new sails, replace the 
electrical system and install modern navigation, safety gear and other 
equipment for the voyage. The 21st century gear will be removed when the 
voyage is over.
After the work is complete next spring, the Morgan will travel to New 
London, where it will spend three weeks preparing for the voyage and 
conducting sea trials.
Escorted by a tugboat and the Roann, a fishing vessel restored at the 
Seaport, the Morgan next will sail to Newport, R.I., and then to stops 
in Massachusetts at Vineyard Haven, New Bedford, the Cape Cod Canal, 
Provincetown and Stellwagen Bank National Marine Sanctuary before 
returning to New London and the Seaport, where it will resume its spot 
as the centerpiece of the museum's collection.
Hewson said the museum hopes to announce the name of the captain in the 
next 60 to 90 days, and that the person will be involved in the fitting 
out of the ship next spring. The captain's job will end once the voyage 
is completed in August 2014.
Seaport spokesman Dan McFadden said the museum would not publicly 
disclose the salary for the position.
The museum also is hiring a full-time marine operations manager to 
handle all the marine logistics of the trip.
In addition to the captain, the ship will have three mates, 10 to 12 
crew who are certified mariners, 10 additional crew and a dozen 
passengers on any one leg of the trip, Hewson said.

j.woj...@theday.com



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Re: Stus-List Job opening for seasoned sailor

[Joel Aronson]

I definitely need to get to New England next summer!  I'll be looking to
bum a boat ride from one of you so I can see her(?) from the water!

Joel
35/3
Annapolis


On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Bill Bina  wrote:

>  Thought I would pass this along...
>
>
> 
>
> Article published Sep 4, 2013
>  *Wanted: captain for 172-year-old whaleship*
> By Joe Wojtas  Day Staff Writer
> *Seaport seeking first Charles W. Morgan skipper in 92 years*
> ***Mystic* - The Charles W. Morgan is about to get its first captain in
> 92 years.
> **Mystic Seaport, which has been restoring the 172-year-old wooden
> whaleship for the past four years so it can sail to historic ports across
> New England next summer, is advertising for someone to captain the ship
> leading up to and during its 38th voyage.
> **"The Morgan has not had a captain in more than 90 years and who knows
> how long it will be after this voyage," Dana Hewson, the museum's vice
> president for Watercraft Preservation and Programs, said Tuesday. "So I
> think this will be a much sought-after position."
> **Seaport officials said the captain not only will have to be a top-notch
> mariner but also must be comfortable in front of the public because of the
> media attention and crowds the ship will attract during its three-month
> trip next summer.
> **"They have to be absolutely qualified to manage this artifact, which
> has national and international importance," Hewson said of the candidates.
> "They also have to embrace the role of the public nature of this endeavor."
> **He said that could mean interacting with everyone from the media and
> passengers to governors of the states they are visiting.
> **Applicants must possess a 500-ton Near Coastal Master license and have
> 10 years of command experience on traditional sailing vessels with
> extensive knowledge in square-rig sailing, according to the job description
> on the museum website.
> **It adds that the captain must recognize the ship "as the premier
> artifact in the museum's collection as well as one of the nation's most
> important historic objects. Her safety and well-being will be paramount in
> all decisions."
> **The Morgan, whose last voyage ended in 1921, is the world's last
> surviving wooden whaling ship and a National Historic Landmark. It also
> holds the distinction of being the country's oldest commercial vessel still
> afloat. A total of $7 million eventually will be spent on its restoration
> and voyage.
> **Hewson said the museum has seen interest in the position from people in
> the field.
> **"It's a relatively small world, so it's certainly been known in the
> field that we'd be doing this," he said.
> **The restored Morgan was launched during a ceremony in July. While the
> majority of the work to the hull is complete, shipyard workers have to
> replace spars, rig the ship, fit it with new sails, replace the electrical
> system and install modern navigation, safety gear and other equipment for
> the voyage. The 21st century gear will be removed when the voyage is over.
> **After the work is complete next spring, the Morgan will travel to New
> London, where it will spend three weeks preparing for the voyage and
> conducting sea trials.
> **Escorted by a tugboat and the Roann, a fishing vessel restored at the
> Seaport, the Morgan next will sail to Newport, R.I., and then to stops in
> Massachusetts at Vineyard Haven, New Bedford, the Cape Cod Canal,
> Provincetown and Stellwagen Bank National Marine Sanctuary before returning
> to New London and the Seaport, where it will resume its spot as the
> centerpiece of the museum's collection.
> **Hewson said the museum hopes to announce the name of the captain in the
> next 60 to 90 days, and that the person will be involved in the fitting out
> of the ship next spring. The captain's job will end once the voyage is
> completed in August 2014.
> **Seaport spokesman Dan McFadden said the museum would not publicly
> disclose the salary for the position.
> **The museum also is hiring a full-time marine operations manager to
> handle all the marine logistics of the trip.
> **In addition to the captain, the ship will have three mates, 10 to 12
> crew who are certified mariners, 10 additional crew and a dozen passengers
> on any one leg of the trip, Hewson said.
> **j.woj...@theday.com
> **
>
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Re: Stus-List Job opening for seasoned sailor

[Andrew Burton]

You'll be welcome on Peregrine.
Let's get the Morgan's schedule and plan it.
Andy


On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Joel Aronson  wrote:

> I definitely need to get to New England next summer!  I'll be looking to
> bum a boat ride from one of you so I can see her(?) from the water!
>
> Joel
> 35/3
> Annapolis
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Bill Bina  wrote:
>
>>  Thought I would pass this along...
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> Article published Sep 4, 2013
>>  *Wanted: captain for 172-year-old whaleship*
>> By Joe Wojtas  Day Staff Writer
>> *Seaport seeking first Charles W. Morgan skipper in 92 years*
>> ***Mystic* - The Charles W. Morgan is about to get its first captain in
>> 92 years.
>> **Mystic Seaport, which has been restoring the 172-year-old wooden
>> whaleship for the past four years so it can sail to historic ports across
>> New England next summer, is advertising for someone to captain the ship
>> leading up to and during its 38th voyage.
>> **"The Morgan has not had a captain in more than 90 years and who knows
>> how long it will be after this voyage," Dana Hewson, the museum's vice
>> president for Watercraft Preservation and Programs, said Tuesday. "So I
>> think this will be a much sought-after position."
>> **Seaport officials said the captain not only will have to be a
>> top-notch mariner but also must be comfortable in front of the public
>> because of the media attention and crowds the ship will attract during its
>> three-month trip next summer.
>> **"They have to be absolutely qualified to manage this artifact, which
>> has national and international importance," Hewson said of the candidates.
>> "They also have to embrace the role of the public nature of this endeavor."
>> **He said that could mean interacting with everyone from the media and
>> passengers to governors of the states they are visiting.
>> **Applicants must possess a 500-ton Near Coastal Master license and have
>> 10 years of command experience on traditional sailing vessels with
>> extensive knowledge in square-rig sailing, according to the job description
>> on the museum website.
>> **It adds that the captain must recognize the ship "as the premier
>> artifact in the museum's collection as well as one of the nation's most
>> important historic objects. Her safety and well-being will be paramount in
>> all decisions."
>> **The Morgan, whose last voyage ended in 1921, is the world's last
>> surviving wooden whaling ship and a National Historic Landmark. It also
>> holds the distinction of being the country's oldest commercial vessel still
>> afloat. A total of $7 million eventually will be spent on its restoration
>> and voyage.
>> **Hewson said the museum has seen interest in the position from people
>> in the field.
>> **"It's a relatively small world, so it's certainly been known in the
>> field that we'd be doing this," he said.
>> **The restored Morgan was launched during a ceremony in July. While the
>> majority of the work to the hull is complete, shipyard workers have to
>> replace spars, rig the ship, fit it with new sails, replace the electrical
>> system and install modern navigation, safety gear and other equipment for
>> the voyage. The 21st century gear will be removed when the voyage is over.
>> **After the work is complete next spring, the Morgan will travel to New
>> London, where it will spend three weeks preparing for the voyage and
>> conducting sea trials.
>> **Escorted by a tugboat and the Roann, a fishing vessel restored at the
>> Seaport, the Morgan next will sail to Newport, R.I., and then to stops in
>> Massachusetts at Vineyard Haven, New Bedford, the Cape Cod Canal,
>> Provincetown and Stellwagen Bank National Marine Sanctuary before returning
>> to New London and the Seaport, where it will resume its spot as the
>> centerpiece of the museum's collection.
>> **Hewson said the museum hopes to announce the name of the captain in
>> the next 60 to 90 days, and that the person will be involved in the fitting
>> out of the ship next spring. The captain's job will end once the voyage is
>> completed in August 2014.
>> **Seaport spokesman Dan McFadden said the museum would not publicly
>> disclose the salary for the position.
>> **The museum also is hiring a full-time marine operations manager to
>> handle all the marine logistics of the trip.
>> **In addition to the captain, the ship will have three mates, 10 to 12
>> crew who are certified mariners, 10 additional crew and a dozen passengers
>> on any one leg of the trip, Hewson said.
>> **j.woj...@theday.com
>> **
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List Best Navigation app for android

[Pierre Tremblay]

Hi Terry,
 
I don't know, I'm on the great lakes (Ontario).
 


 De : Terry 
À : Pierre Tremblay ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Envoyé le : mercredi 4 Septembre 2013 13h40
Objet : Re: Stus-List Best Navigation app for android
  


Pierre, can you get a chart set for Mexico? 

From: Pierre Tremblay  
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 10:35 AM 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com  
Subject: Re: Stus-List Best Navigation app for 
android 
 I'm using Marine Navigator on my Galaxy Nexus as a backup to my 
plotter. Last summer, I had no plotter, only the lite version of Marine 
navigator (plus the paper charts). I use BSB charts with it. 
  
Pierre Tremblay 
Avalanche 
C&C38-3 WK 



De : Terry 

À : cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Envoyé le 
: mercredi 4 Septembre 2013 13h25
Objet : Stus-List Best Navigation app for 
android
 


Hello, I 
am looking for the best full-featured navigation app for an Samsung-S4 
smartphone with the Android operating system. Any suggestions from users? 

Thanks... 

Terry 
Johnson
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Stus-List DC Police RIB vs. Sea Ray - bet on the RIB...

[Colin Kilgour]

This is hilarious

I guess the DC cops' training skipped over the axiom "Never approach a
docked boat any faster than you intend to hit it"

http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2013/09/01/d-c-police-boat-crashes-into-2-others-in-georgetown/

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Re: Stus-List DC Police RIB vs. Sea Ray - bet on the RIB...

[Dennis C.]

At least it was a SeaRay.  :)

Dennis C.





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> From: Colin Kilgour 
>To: C&C List  
>Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 1:15 PM
>Subject: Stus-List DC Police RIB vs. Sea Ray - bet on the RIB...
> 
>
>
>This is hilarious 
>
>I guess the DC cops' training skipped over the axiom "Never approach a docked 
>boat any faster than you intend to hit it"
>
>
>http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2013/09/01/d-c-police-boat-crashes-into-2-others-in-georgetown/
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Job opening for seasoned sailor

[Bill Bina]

I've been crawling all over that ship since I was a kid, and she was 
resting on sand. That was over 50 years ago. When they did enough to 
refloat her, I was ecstatic. That was decades ago. This latest 
restoration was originally just to preserve her. Then they decided to go 
the extra mile and make her able to actually sail again. :-)


Bill Bina


On 9/4/2013 2:16 PM, Stevan Plavsa wrote:

Wow.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_W._Morgan_(ship) 



And you can get a model kit too :)
You guys over in NE are lucky to be surrounded by so much naval history.

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Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto




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Re: Stus-List Best Navigation app for android

[Dennis C.]

Navionics has an Android app.  I've got the iPhone version.  It may lack a some 
of the features you want but it's a nice chart plotter with routes, tide info, 
marina phone numbers, etc. for $15US.

They also have Navionics+ for iPhones.  It has bathymetric data.  May soon have 
Android version.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA





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> From: Terry 
>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 12:25 PM
>Subject: Stus-List Best Navigation app for android
> 
>
>
>Hello, I am 
looking for the best full-featured navigation app for an Samsung-S4 smartphone 
with the Android operating system. Any suggestions from users?
> 
>Thanks...
> 
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Johnson
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Re: Stus-List Job opening for seasoned sailor

[Stevan Plavsa]

Wow.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_W._Morgan_(ship)

And you can get a model kit too :)
You guys over in NE are lucky to be surrounded by so much naval history.

Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto


On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Andrew Burton wrote:

> You'll be welcome on Peregrine.
> Let's get the Morgan's schedule and plan it.
> Andy
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Joel Aronson wrote:
>
>> I definitely need to get to New England next summer!  I'll be looking to
>> bum a boat ride from one of you so I can see her(?) from the water!
>>
>> Joel
>> 35/3
>> Annapolis
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Bill Bina  wrote:
>>
>>>  Thought I would pass this along...
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Article published Sep 4, 2013
>>>  *Wanted: captain for 172-year-old whaleship*
>>> By Joe Wojtas  Day Staff Writer
>>> *Seaport seeking first Charles W. Morgan skipper in 92 years*
>>> ***Mystic* - The Charles W. Morgan is about to get its first captain in
>>> 92 years.
>>> **Mystic Seaport, which has been restoring the 172-year-old wooden
>>> whaleship for the past four years so it can sail to historic ports across
>>> New England next summer, is advertising for someone to captain the ship
>>> leading up to and during its 38th voyage.
>>> **"The Morgan has not had a captain in more than 90 years and who knows
>>> how long it will be after this voyage," Dana Hewson, the museum's vice
>>> president for Watercraft Preservation and Programs, said Tuesday. "So I
>>> think this will be a much sought-after position."
>>> **Seaport officials said the captain not only will have to be a
>>> top-notch mariner but also must be comfortable in front of the public
>>> because of the media attention and crowds the ship will attract during its
>>> three-month trip next summer.
>>> **"They have to be absolutely qualified to manage this artifact, which
>>> has national and international importance," Hewson said of the candidates.
>>> "They also have to embrace the role of the public nature of this endeavor."
>>> **He said that could mean interacting with everyone from the media and
>>> passengers to governors of the states they are visiting.
>>> **Applicants must possess a 500-ton Near Coastal Master license and
>>> have 10 years of command experience on traditional sailing vessels with
>>> extensive knowledge in square-rig sailing, according to the job description
>>> on the museum website.
>>> **It adds that the captain must recognize the ship "as the premier
>>> artifact in the museum's collection as well as one of the nation's most
>>> important historic objects. Her safety and well-being will be paramount in
>>> all decisions."
>>> **The Morgan, whose last voyage ended in 1921, is the world's last
>>> surviving wooden whaling ship and a National Historic Landmark. It also
>>> holds the distinction of being the country's oldest commercial vessel still
>>> afloat. A total of $7 million eventually will be spent on its restoration
>>> and voyage.
>>> **Hewson said the museum has seen interest in the position from people
>>> in the field.
>>> **"It's a relatively small world, so it's certainly been known in the
>>> field that we'd be doing this," he said.
>>> **The restored Morgan was launched during a ceremony in July. While the
>>> majority of the work to the hull is complete, shipyard workers have to
>>> replace spars, rig the ship, fit it with new sails, replace the electrical
>>> system and install modern navigation, safety gear and other equipment for
>>> the voyage. The 21st century gear will be removed when the voyage is over.
>>> **After the work is complete next spring, the Morgan will travel to New
>>> London, where it will spend three weeks preparing for the voyage and
>>> conducting sea trials.
>>> **Escorted by a tugboat and the Roann, a fishing vessel restored at the
>>> Seaport, the Morgan next will sail to Newport, R.I., and then to stops in
>>> Massachusetts at Vineyard Haven, New Bedford, the Cape Cod Canal,
>>> Provincetown and Stellwagen Bank National Marine Sanctuary before returning
>>> to New London and the Seaport, where it will resume its spot as the
>>> centerpiece of the museum's collection.
>>> **Hewson said the museum hopes to announce the name of the captain in
>>> the next 60 to 90 days, and that the person will be involved in the fitting
>>> out of the ship next spring. The captain's job will end once the voyage is
>>> completed in August 2014.
>>> **Seaport spokesman Dan McFadden said the museum would not publicly
>>> disclose the salary for the position.
>>> **The museum also is hiring a full-time marine operations manager to
>>> handle all the marine logistics of the trip.
>>> **In addition to the captain, the ship will have three mates, 10 to 12
>>> crew who are certified mariners, 10 additional crew and a dozen

Stus-List Charles W. Morgan

[Indigo]

The Charles W Morgan will embark on her 38th voyage in May 2014.  Here is
what the Seaport Museum says about that voyage

 

The Morgan will begin by a short trip from Mystic, Conn. to nearby New
London. New London's deep harbor and ready access to Long Island Sound makes
it a prime location to prepare her for sea and to conduct sail training with
the crew (the Mystic River is too shallow and long for this purpose). Once
ready, the ship will proceed to journey to Newport, Vineyard Haven, New
Bedford, Provincetown, Boston, and then back to New London and Mystic. The
entire voyage is expected to take about six weeks and specific dates for the
port visits are being developed at this time.

 

Jonathan

Indigo - 35MkIII - Southport CT

 

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan
Plavsa
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 2:16 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Job opening for seasoned sailor

 

Wow. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_W._Morgan_(ship)

 

And you can get a model kit too :)

You guys over in NE are lucky to be surrounded by so much naval history. 

 

Steve

Suhana, C&C 32

Toronto

 

On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Andrew Burton 
wrote:

You'll be welcome on Peregrine.

Let's get the Morgan's schedule and plan it.

Andy

 

On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Joel Aronson  wrote:

I definitely need to get to New England next summer!  I'll be looking to bum
a boat ride from one of you so I can see her(?) from the water!

 

Joel

35/3

Annapolis

 

On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Bill Bina  wrote:

Thought I would pass this along...

 



Article published Sep 4, 2013
Wanted: captain for 172-year-old whaleship
By Joe Wojtas   Day Staff Writer
Seaport seeking first Charles W. Morgan skipper in 92 years
Mystic - The Charles W. Morgan is about to get its first captain in 92
years.
Mystic Seaport, which has been restoring the 172-year-old wooden whaleship
for the past four years so it can sail to historic ports across New England
next summer, is advertising for someone to captain the ship leading up to
and during its 38th voyage.
"The Morgan has not had a captain in more than 90 years and who knows how
long it will be after this voyage," Dana Hewson, the museum's vice president
for Watercraft Preservation and Programs, said Tuesday. "So I think this
will be a much sought-after position."
Seaport officials said the captain not only will have to be a top-notch
mariner but also must be comfortable in front of the public because of the
media attention and crowds the ship will attract during its three-month trip
next summer.
"They have to be absolutely qualified to manage this artifact, which has
national and international importance," Hewson said of the candidates. "They
also have to embrace the role of the public nature of this endeavor."
He said that could mean interacting with everyone from the media and
passengers to governors of the states they are visiting.
Applicants must possess a 500-ton Near Coastal Master license and have 10
years of command experience on traditional sailing vessels with extensive
knowledge in square-rig sailing, according to the job description on the
museum website.
It adds that the captain must recognize the ship "as the premier artifact in
the museum's collection as well as one of the nation's most important
historic objects. Her safety and well-being will be paramount in all
decisions."
The Morgan, whose last voyage ended in 1921, is the world's last surviving
wooden whaling ship and a National Historic Landmark. It also holds the
distinction of being the country's oldest commercial vessel still afloat. A
total of $7 million eventually will be spent on its restoration and voyage.
Hewson said the museum has seen interest in the position from people in the
field.
"It's a relatively small world, so it's certainly been known in the field
that we'd be doing this," he said.
The restored Morgan was launched during a ceremony in July. While the
majority of the work to the hull is complete, shipyard workers have to
replace spars, rig the ship, fit it with new sails, replace the electrical
system and install modern navigation, safety gear and other equipment for
the voyage. The 21st century gear will be removed when the voyage is over.
After the work is complete next spring, the Morgan will travel to New
London, where it will spend three weeks preparing for the voyage and
conducting sea trials.
Escorted by a tugboat and the Roann, a fishing vessel restored at the
Seaport, the Morgan next will sail to Newport, R.I., and then to stops in
Massachusetts at Vineyard Haven, New Bedford, the Cape Cod Canal,
Provincetown and Stellwagen Bank National Marine Sanctuary before returning
to New London and the Seaport

Re: Stus-List Charles W. Morgan

[Andrew Burton]

Maybe do the NE rendezvous in June next year to intersect with a visit from
the Morgan somewhere?

Andy


On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Indigo  wrote:

>  The Charles W Morgan will embark on her 38th voyage in May 2014.  Here
> is what the Seaport Museum says about that voyage
>
>
>
> The *Morgan* will begin by a short trip from Mystic, Conn. to nearby New
> London. New London’s deep harbor and ready access to Long Island Sound
> makes it a prime location to prepare her for sea and to conduct sail
> training with the crew (the Mystic River is too shallow and long for this
> purpose). Once ready, the ship will proceed to journey to Newport, Vineyard
> Haven, New Bedford, Provincetown, Boston, and then back to New London and
> Mystic. The entire voyage is expected to take about six weeks and specific
> dates for the port visits are being developed at this time.
>
>
>
> Jonathan
>
> Indigo – 35MkIII – Southport CT
>
>
>  --
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Stevan
> Plavsa
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 04, 2013 2:16 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Job opening for seasoned sailor
>
>
>
> Wow.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_W._Morgan_(ship)
>
>
>
> And you can get a model kit too :)
>
> You guys over in NE are lucky to be surrounded by so much naval history.
>
>
>
> Steve
>
> Suhana, C&C 32
>
> Toronto
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Andrew Burton 
> wrote:
>
> You'll be welcome on Peregrine.
>
> Let's get the Morgan's schedule and plan it.
>
> Andy
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Joel Aronson 
> wrote:
>
> I definitely need to get to New England next summer!  I'll be looking to
> bum a boat ride from one of you so I can see her(?) from the water!
>
>
>
> Joel
>
> 35/3
>
> Annapolis
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Bill Bina  wrote:
>
>   Thought I would pass this along...
>
>
> 
>
> Article published Sep 4, 2013
> *Wanted: captain for 172-year-old whaleship*
> By Joe Wojtas  Day Staff Writer
> *Seaport seeking first Charles W. Morgan skipper in 92 years*
> *Mystic* - The Charles W. Morgan is about to get its first captain in 92
> years.
> Mystic Seaport, which has been restoring the 172-year-old wooden whaleship
> for the past four years so it can sail to historic ports across New England
> next summer, is advertising for someone to captain the ship leading up to
> and during its 38th voyage.
> "The Morgan has not had a captain in more than 90 years and who knows how
> long it will be after this voyage," Dana Hewson, the museum's vice
> president for Watercraft Preservation and Programs, said Tuesday. "So I
> think this will be a much sought-after position."
> Seaport officials said the captain not only will have to be a top-notch
> mariner but also must be comfortable in front of the public because of the
> media attention and crowds the ship will attract during its three-month
> trip next summer.
> "They have to be absolutely qualified to manage this artifact, which has
> national and international importance," Hewson said of the candidates.
> "They also have to embrace the role of the public nature of this endeavor."
> He said that could mean interacting with everyone from the media and
> passengers to governors of the states they are visiting.
> Applicants must possess a 500-ton Near Coastal Master license and have 10
> years of command experience on traditional sailing vessels with extensive
> knowledge in square-rig sailing, according to the job description on the
> museum website.
> It adds that the captain must recognize the ship "as the premier artifact
> in the museum's collection as well as one of the nation's most important
> historic objects. Her safety and well-being will be paramount in all
> decisions."
> The Morgan, whose last voyage ended in 1921, is the world's last surviving
> wooden whaling ship and a National Historic Landmark. It also holds the
> distinction of being the country's oldest commercial vessel still afloat. A
> total of $7 million eventually will be spent on its restoration and voyage.
> Hewson said the museum has seen interest in the position from people in
> the field.
> "It's a relatively small world, so it's certainly been known in the field
> that we'd be doing this," he said.
> The restored Morgan was launched during a ceremony in July. While the
> majority of the work to the hull is complete, shipyard workers have to
> replace spars, rig the ship, fit it with new sails, replace the electrical
> system and install modern navigation, safety gear and other equipment for
> the voyage. The 21st century gear will be removed when the voyage is over.
> After the work is complete next spring, the Morgan will travel to New
> London, where it will spend three weeks

Re: Stus-List Best Navigation app for android

[Stevan Plavsa]

The NOAA has a free chart app for android but their charts are only cover
the US in detail. I use navionics on my iPad thanks to recommendations from
this list. It served me well from Toronto to the thousand islands and back.
I found it very accurate and it worked very well.

Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto


On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Dennis C.  wrote:

> Navionics has an Android app.  I've got the iPhone version.  It may lack a
> some of the features you want but it's a nice chart plotter with routes,
> tide info, marina phone numbers, etc. for $15US.
>
> They also have Navionics+ for iPhones.  It has bathymetric data.  May soon
> have Android version.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
>
>   --
>  *From:* Terry 
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 4, 2013 12:25 PM
> *Subject:* Stus-List Best Navigation app for android
>
>   Hello, I am looking for the best full-featured navigation app for an
> Samsung-S4 smartphone with the Android operating system. Any suggestions
> from users?
>
> Thanks...
>
> Terry Johnson
> S/V Ozymandias
> E-mail: tj...@comcast.net
> Website: www.tj622.com
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Re: Stus-List C&C smile - wet keel bolts

[Ken Heaton]

It seems to me that Mike even documented the install of one of these
garboard drains online.  I know I've run across it before.

Ken H.


On 4 September 2013 14:46, Hoyt, Mike  wrote:

> **
> Good idea Bill except that the boat will sink 
>
> Seriously though - I have put garbord drain in my last two boats.  Very
> difficult to put at absolute lowest part of bilge but it does ensure there
> is never a serious water buildup over the off season.  Water collecting in
> a boat on the hard does nasty things
>
> Actually I install mine from the inside and completely fair over the
> outside.  There is no bulge or any trace of the garbord drain and it has
> zero effect on flow over the keel this way.  Previous boat I did from the
> outside and there was a slight bulge.
>
> Mike
>
>  --
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill
> Coleman
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 03, 2013 7:10 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List C&C smile - wet keel bolts
>
>  Find the lowest part of your bilge and drill a hole then epoxy a
> Garboard Drain/Plug in .
>
> ** **
>
> Bill Coleman
>
> C&C 39 [image: animated_favicon1]
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Stevan
> Plavsa
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 03, 2013 9:00 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List C&C smile - wet keel bolts
>
> ** **
>
> Count me among those with water constantly in the bilge. The past two
> winters with the boat out of the water there has been no evidence of a
> smile but I have been concerned with the bilge and it always having water
> in it. Keel stepped, when it rains, water in the bilge. Aside from that any
> condensation in the boat, the stuffing box (which needs repacking), etc,
> and I have water in the bilge, all the time.
>
> ** **
>
> Steve
>
> Suhana, C&C 32
>
> Toronto
>
> ** **
>
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Hoyt, Mike  wrote:
> 
>
> John and others
>
> In the reply below you reference the problems from wet stainless in
> oxygen deprived environment.  I have heard this comment several times
> before also.
>
> I am not aware of a large nimber of sailboats that do not have some
> water in th bilge most if not all the time.  Since this is where the
> kell bolts are torgued with the nuts it seem that this would count as
> wet and oxygen deprived.  Am I missing something or are we all in
> imminent danger?
>
> Mike
>
> Nut Case
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of John
> and Maryann Read
> Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 5:56 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C smile
>
> Hi Bill
>
> If your keelboats are leaking, then your smile has progressed to the
> point
> of more than stuffing in some bondo and the need for some redoing the
> keel /
> sump seal itself to prevent leaks.  Remember that the keel bolts are
> stainless which will degrade when wet in an oxygen deprived environment
> which is what happens when the keel / sump seal is compromised.  A good
> starting place would be get the opinion of your local fiberglass repair
> shop.  I believe this subject is also well covered in the archives of
> this
> list as well as the DIY section of the photoalbum.
>
> To be absolutely sure, the preferred process at haul out would be to 1)
> lower the keel, 2)  clean, fair and prep the mating surfaces, 3)
> reattach
> the keel with a preferred adhesive / sealant, 4)  properly torque the
> keel
> bolts, 5) grind and fair both sides of the joint by at least a foot, 6)
> apply fiberglass as a fairing, 7)  fair the fiberglass, 8)  apply
> several
> coats of barrier coat then bottom paint.
>
> If this is too much, then you can try digging out all bondo and as best
> you
> can expose the joint as deeply as possible.  Clean it to provide a good
> sealing surface.  Stuff in your sealant, then proceed at step 4.
>
> Fiberglass tape provides negligible structural integrity.  The keel
> bolts
> and adhesive at the sump / keel joint do that.  The tape is to fair the
> joint.  If there is insufficient structural integrity, the keel will
> flex
> and break the tape bond.
>
> Hope this helps
>
>
>
> John and Maryann
> Legacy III
> 1982 C&C 34
> Noank, CT
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill
> Connon
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Stus-List Racor dual fuel filter

[Richard Walter]

Greetings,

Anybody install/use one of these? Use? Installation? Comments?


http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|699530&id=1716464

Thank you,
Richard
s/v INDIGO
1978 36-foot
Watch Hill
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Re: Stus-List Racor dual fuel filter

[Jake Brodersen]

Richard,

 

That's a pretty pricey piece of gear.  It will certainly do the job,
although I would consider it overkill on most of our boats.  I have a single
Racor water separator/filter.  Works great and needs little maintenance.  I
have a vacuum gauge installed as well.  So far the needle has never moved.

 

Jake

 

Jake Brodersen

C&C 35 Mk-III

Midnight Mistress

Hampton VA

   

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Walter
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 9:43 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Racor dual fuel filter

 

Greetings,

 

Anybody install/use one of these? Use? Installation? Comments?

 

http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|699530
 &id=1716464

 

Thank you,

Richard

s/v INDIGO
1978 36-foot

Watch Hill

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Re: Stus-List Racor dual fuel filter

[Andrew Burton]

I have a single Racor filter, too. I don't think I would need a dual filter for 
my coastal cruising itinerary, or even if I was going to Bermuda. Takes up a 
lot of space and there are lots of other things to spend money on.
Andy

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

On Sep 4, 2013, at 22:12, "Jake Brodersen"  wrote:

> Richard,
>  
> That’s a pretty pricey piece of gear.  It will certainly do the job, although 
> I would consider it overkill on most of our boats.  I have a single Racor 
> water separator/filter.  Works great and needs little maintenance.  I have a 
> vacuum gauge installed as well.  So far the needle has never moved.
>  
> Jake
>  
> Jake Brodersen
> C&C 35 Mk-III
> Midnight Mistress
> Hampton VA
>   
> 
>  
>  
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Richard 
> Walter
> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 9:43 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List Racor dual fuel filter
>  
> Greetings,
>  
> Anybody install/use one of these? Use? Installation? Comments?
>  
> http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|699530&id=1716464
>  
> Thank you,
> Richard
> s/v INDIGO
> 1978 36-foot
> Watch Hill
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Re: Stus-List Racor dual fuel filter

[Dennis C.]

Friend of mine has one on his Island Packet 485.  If you need one of those 
you've got serious fuel issues.

IMHO, I think they're overkill for a small to medium sized engine in a 
sailboat.  I think your money is better spent on preventative measures such as 
ensuring your fuel is clean and your fuel tank is clean.  

Further I think predictive measures like a fuel line vacuum gauge is also good. 
 I have one of these on my Racor 500MA.  



I just changed my filter element this weekend on the way back from Pensacola to 
Lake Pontchartrain because the needle was starting to creep up.  Waited until 
we stopped for the night to change it.  Last change was many, many hours ago.

If you really want a second fuel filter, you can install a spin-on type with a 
couple 3 way valves to supplement a Racor 500 for a lot less $$ than 2 Racor 
500's.  If you have a fuel issue, swap the valves to make the spin-on active, 
change the element in the 500 and then swap it back.  

See:  



and either 


or 

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA





>
> From: Richard Walter 
>To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"  
>Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 8:42 PM
>Subject: Stus-List Racor dual fuel filter
> 
>
>
>Greetings,
>
>
>Anybody install/use one of these? Use? Installation? Comments?
>
>
>
>http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|699530&id=1716464
>
>
>Thank you,
>Richard
>s/v INDIGO
>1978 36-foot
>Watch Hill
>
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Re: Stus-List Racor dual fuel filter

[David Risch]

Agree...many miles offshore and coastal.  Every  time I changed the filter as a 
fix it was clean.   It was always something else.  Mind you I removed the tank 
when I bought the boat and cleaned it thoroughly.   

1981 40-2.  
  David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650 cell

-Original Message-
From: "Dennis C." 
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 02:26:34 
To: ; 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Racor dual fuel filter


Friend of mine has one on his Island Packet 485.  If you need one of those 
you've got serious fuel issues.

IMHO, I think they're overkill for a small to medium sized engine in a 
sailboat.  I think your money is better spent on preventative measures such as 
ensuring your fuel is clean and your fuel tank is clean.  

Further I think predictive measures like a fuel line vacuum gauge is also good. 
 I have one of these on my Racor 500MA.  



I just changed my filter element this weekend on the way back from Pensacola to 
Lake Pontchartrain because the needle was starting to creep up.  Waited until 
we stopped for the night to change it.  Last change was many, many hours ago.

If you really want a second fuel filter, you can install a spin-on type with a 
couple 3 way valves to supplement a Racor 500 for a lot less $$ than 2 Racor 
500's.  If you have a fuel issue, swap the valves to make the spin-on active, 
change the element in the 500 and then swap it back.  

See:  



and either 


or 

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA




 
 
 
 

  From: Richard Walter 
 To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"  
 Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 8:42 PM
 Subject: Stus-List Racor dual fuel filter
   





Greetings,


Anybody install/use one of these? Use? Installation? Comments?



http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|699530&id=1716464


Thank you,
Richard
s/v INDIGO
1978 36-foot
Watch Hill

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Re: Stus-List Racor dual fuel filter

[Rick Brass]

In the 10 years I've owned my boat I've had a bad fuel issue and unscheduled
filter change once. So dual filters seem to be a "nice to have" not a "need
to have".

 

And Defender seems to be right proud of the system - though a bit less so
than Racor. $800? I can buy a lot of needed stuff for that much money.

 

That said, I have a dual Racor filter setup on Imzadi, mostly because I
understand the fuel quality I might encounter while cruising outside the US
and Canada is a bit questionable. I guess it's sort of an extension of the
Baja Fuel Filter funnel I have on the boat. I use it, but have never found
water or crud in my fuel - but I feel like its insurance.

 

I bought my 2 Racor filters on EBay for about $50-75 each and installed them
in parallel with a T valve before  and after the filters (so I can easily
switch to the second filter if the first one gets fouled). The line from the
T valve after the filters goes to the inlet for the electric lift pump on
the engine. Physically they are one above the other on the bulkhead to the
port (intake) side of the engine. I guess I've got about $200 invested in
filters, lines, fittings, and valves between the tank and the engine.

 

I've thought about adding a vacuum guage, but that seems like adding a belt
to the suspenders I already have. So it's not real high priority right now.

 

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Walter
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 9:43 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Racor dual fuel filter

 

Greetings,

 

Anybody install/use one of these? Use? Installation? Comments?

 

http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|699530
 &id=1716464

 

Thank you,

Richard

s/v INDIGO
1978 36-foot

Watch Hill

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