Re: Stus-List Macallan
Four of us were sailing in Scotland about ten years ago and visited Oban, the source of Oban scotch. Being aware of the distillery, it was high on our priority list and we went for a tour. After we escaped, we visited a small pub on the second floor of a waterfront hotel and were confronted by a large bearded barman with a kilt on. He noted we were from away and, after a brief welcoming conversation, asked us what we would like to drink. We replied dutifully, "Oban, of course!". His response surprised us: "I'll no be serving ye that shite!" he said, and insisted on serving us Lagavulin, a most delightful, expensive and somewhat scarce brew. Even so, Oban is quite acceptable. Rich Knowles INDIGO LF38 Halifax, NS. On 2013-05-28, at 12:16 AM, Russ & Melody wrote: Hi Robert, I gotta say that if you enjoy a 25 hour old scotch then it's no wonder you think an regular 12 year is overpriced :) I like your comment regarding the snobs, if people can be honest with themselves they can find bargains. Here is a cheap Canadian whisky that can place in the top 10 of blind taste at a $120 "Whisky Tasting seminar". The presenter loves that part. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberta_Premium Only in Canada eh? Pity. And all this from a rum snob Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 03:53 PM 27/05/2013, you wrote: > I have tried the 25 hr old at a scotch tasting. It was wonderful. > > Macallan 12 yr old is overpriced but OK. It's sherry cask aged so you have to > like that taste. > > Macallan uses the old casks to make some of the varieties of Famous Grouse. > Famous Grouse is a very reasonably priced yet drinkable blended. > > If you want something single malt, peaty, and sherry cask aged that is cheap, > try Tomatin. It's $22 a bottle in my area. > > Scotch is no different than wine or cigars or vodka. There is no shortage of > snobs and reviewers who want to tell you what you like. Taste all you can and > enjoy what you like that doesn't break the bank. > > CHEERS! > > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Datamarine wind indicator cable
Richard, I'm between boats at the moment, but leaning toward a more racing oriented boat this time. Current contenders are the J/70 and J/92S. Pat On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Richard N. Bush wrote: > Pat, what kind of boat do you have now? > Richard > 1987 33-II; Ohio River, Mile 584 > > Richard N. Bush Law Offices > 235 South Fifth Street, Fourth Floor > Louisville, Kentucky 40202 > 502-584-7255 > -Original Message- > From: Pat Nevitt > To: cnc-list > Sent: Mon, May 27, 2013 6:30 pm > Subject: Stus-List Datamarine wind indicator cable > > The PO gave me a brand new 80 ft Datamarine cable with connector for the > wind transmitter. I could never tell whether it was the vane on top of the > mast, the old cable or the indicator that wasn't working so I chucked the > whole lot and went with Tack Tick. I still have this brand new cable that > I can't use and thought surely there is someone on the list that still uses > the Datamarine stuff that could use a new cable and actually wants to run > the thing down the mast. These are $150 from DMI. > > The list has been a wealth of info for me, so I'll trade it to the first > person that can genuinely use it and will send me something small that is > C&C related (hat, burgee, logo, whatever). I recently sold my C&C 29-2 but > stay on the list for the great info. > > Pat > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo > Albumhttp://www.cncphotoalbum.comcnc-l...@cnc-list.com > > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Boat choices
Why not a J-80? Just a bit more civilized than the 70 (you can go downstairs to take care of business), but not as big as the 92S. Sails well to its rating, and they can be found for a lot less than a new 70 (50 grand). Downside is the fixed keel (like the 92S) so if you are planning on taking it somewhere you would like to ramp launch, you are better off with the 70 with its drop keel. I race on an 80 and it is fun. Gary - Original Message - From: Pat Nevitt To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 6:44 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Datamarine wind indicator cable Richard, I'm between boats at the moment, but leaning toward a more racing oriented boat this time. Current contenders are the J/70 and J/92S. Pat On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Richard N. Bush wrote: Pat, what kind of boat do you have now? Richard 1987 33-II; Ohio River, Mile 584 Richard N. Bush Law Offices 235 South Fifth Street, Fourth Floor Louisville, Kentucky 40202 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Pat Nevitt To: cnc-list Sent: Mon, May 27, 2013 6:30 pm Subject: Stus-List Datamarine wind indicator cable The PO gave me a brand new 80 ft Datamarine cable with connector for the wind transmitter. I could never tell whether it was the vane on top of the mast, the old cable or the indicator that wasn't working so I chucked the whole lot and went with Tack Tick. I still have this brand new cable that I can't use and thought surely there is someone on the list that still uses the Datamarine stuff that could use a new cable and actually wants to run the thing down the mast. These are $150 from DMI. The list has been a wealth of info for me, so I'll trade it to the first person that can genuinely use it and will send me something small that is C&C related (hat, burgee, logo, whatever). I recently sold my C&C 29-2 but stay on the list for the great info. Pat ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Boat choices
I'd second the J/80. I just sold mine to buy Peregrine so I could cruise with my wife, but I miss my 80 a lot. It was hands down to most fun boat I've sailed.Andy C&C 40 Peregrine Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 On May 28, 2013, at 6:55, "Gary Nylander" wrote: > Why not a J-80? Just a bit more civilized than the 70 (you can go downstairs > to take care of business), but not as big as the 92S. Sails well to its > rating, and they can be found for a lot less than a new 70 (50 grand). > Downside is the fixed keel (like the 92S) so if you are planning on taking it > somewhere you would like to ramp launch, you are better off with the 70 with > its drop keel. > > I race on an 80 and it is fun. > > Gary > - Original Message - > From: Pat Nevitt > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 6:44 AM > Subject: Re: Stus-List Datamarine wind indicator cable > > Richard, > > I'm between boats at the moment, but leaning toward a more racing oriented > boat this time. Current contenders are the J/70 and J/92S. > Pat > > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Richard N. Bush wrote: >> Pat, what kind of boat do you have now? >> Richard >> 1987 33-II; Ohio River, Mile 584 >> >> Richard N. Bush Law Offices >> 235 South Fifth Street, Fourth Floor >> Louisville, Kentucky 40202 >> 502-584-7255 >> -Original Message- >> From: Pat Nevitt >> To: cnc-list >> Sent: Mon, May 27, 2013 6:30 pm >> Subject: Stus-List Datamarine wind indicator cable >> >> The PO gave me a brand new 80 ft Datamarine cable with connector for the >> wind transmitter. I could never tell whether it was the vane on top of the >> mast, the old cable or the indicator that wasn't working so I chucked the >> whole lot and went with Tack Tick. I still have this brand new cable that I >> can't use and thought surely there is someone on the list that still uses >> the Datamarine stuff that could use a new cable and actually wants to run >> the thing down the mast. These are $150 from DMI. >> >> The list has been a wealth of info for me, so I'll trade it to the first >> person that can genuinely use it and will send me something small that is >> C&C related (hat, burgee, logo, whatever). I recently sold my C&C 29-2 but >> stay on the list for the great info. >> >> Pat >> ___ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> ___ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Splash and no messages
All, I've had no list traffic for the past two days. C&C related- I splashed my 36 at 5:00 AM this morning. Generally cold and wet. There was frost on the roofs of some of the houses when I drove to the marina this morning. Bill Caprice 1 New Richmond, Qc 48 08 N - almost halfway to the north pole! ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Splash and no messages
Bill, Maybe people in the US went sailing yesterday - it was a holiday here. (Memorial Day). Email traffic has been light. Mostly talking about Scotch. Hope you have an enjoyable season! Should be near 90F tomorrow. Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Bill Connon wrote: > All, > > I've had no list traffic for the past two days. C&C related- I splashed my > 36 at 5:00 AM this morning. Generally cold and wet. There was frost on the > roofs of some of the houses when I drove to the marina this morning. > > Bill > Caprice 1 > New Richmond, Qc > 48 08 N - almost halfway to the north pole! > > __**_ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Splash and no messages
At 48 North, you're MORE than halfway to the North Pole. We here at 45 North have the honor of being in the middle… :^) BTW, Oceanis launched at 8:15 this morning; sails and canvas are on, along with new docklines, and the new steering pedestal and engine controls work great: www.postaudio.net/webserver/2013launch.jpg Now I just need to get daughter #2 graduated so I can take the boat out... Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On May 28, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Bill Connon wrote: > Bill > Caprice 1 > New Richmond, Qc > 48 08 N - almost halfway to the north pole! ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Splash and no messages
Nice looking boat Fred. Wish my 30 looked that good.BTW, this is the first message I've received in quite a few days. I apparently missed the first one in this thread.RonWild CheriC&C 30STL --- On Tue, 5/28/13, Frederick G Street wrote: From: Frederick G Street Subject: Re: Stus-List Splash and no messages To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Tuesday, May 28, 2013, 9:36 PM At 48 North, you're MORE than halfway to the North Pole. We here at 45 North have the honor of being in the middle… :^) BTW, Oceanis launched at 8:15 this morning; sails and canvas are on, along with new docklines, and the new steering pedestal and engine controls work great: www.postaudio.net/webserver/2013launch.jpg Now I just need to get daughter #2 graduated so I can take the boat out... Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On May 28, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Bill Connon wrote: Bill Caprice 1 New Richmond, Qc 48 08 N - almost halfway to the north pole! -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Splash and no messages
Don't you just love all that teak, Fred:) Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-05-28, at 23:36, Frederick G Street wrote: At 48 North, you're MORE than halfway to the North Pole. We here at 45 North have the honor of being in the middle… :^) BTW, Oceanis launched at 8:15 this morning; sails and canvas are on, along with new docklines, and the new steering pedestal and engine controls work great: www.postaudio.net/webserver/2013launch.jpg Now I just need to get daughter #2 graduated so I can take the boat out... Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On May 28, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Bill Connon wrote: > Bill > Caprice 1 > New Richmond, Qc > 48 08 N - almost halfway to the north pole! ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Boom end fitting
I have an '81 C&C 36 and was wondering if anyone has ever found a boom extension with sheaves for that vintage boom so the outhaul and reefing lines could be routed to the very back end of the boom? Thanks, BC ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Bigger Boat Question
Hi Mark, As you already know there is no simple answer. But here are the dimension for the perfect boat: Cocktails for 6 Dinner for 4 Sleeps 2 Seriously, 30' is ideal for light sailing with a weekend & a bit away. Bigger gets more toys tolerated and comfort underway (especially if you actually go sailing if it's windy). For 20 grand your best bet is the one that has been maintained (vs say, size weighted consideration) so to get the best value. Good sails can be the difference in the bargain... only 3 new cruising sails are a minimum 6 grand from the orient. Personally I went from a 60' cruising cutter to a 35 mk-1 and love her. However I have a 40' motor-sailor sitting in the back yard awaiting my semi-retirement where I can spend 4 5 months aboard, cruising the west coast. Your mileage may vary. Enjoy the hunt. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 09:01 PM 28/05/2013, you wrote: I'm still looking at boats, reading emails from this list and learning lots. Right now I'm sitting back, watching the market, looking to new boats that come up, and trying to figure out where I want to end up. Maybe some more experienced listers can offer some thoughts (on or off list). I know that everyone has there own criteria - but I'm trying to figure out the right boat for me. My Mirage 24 is quite small - 5ft of headroom (only my 8 yr old can stand up), not enough space to sleep 5 (me and 4 kids), lacks an enclosed head, no functional galley, noisy and smelly outboard. I envision wanting to do some more sailing - little further out of the harbour, some overnights (effectively boat camping with the kids), maybe a long weekend away with the girlfriend. But we've all heard the cracks "2 best days in a boater life - the day he/she buys their boat, and the day they sell it", or "A boat is a hole in the water you pour money into" - not really encouraging. So, why, if they are so terrible does everyone get 2 foot itis? Feel free to espouse on why did you end up with the boat you have? Do you wish you stayed smaller/cheaper/simpler? What would you say to yourself if you could go back and offer advice? Was this the best decision ever? If you could make a change what do you want? A bigger galley? Bigger cockpit? My temptation was to find a 29-30 foot boat that would work, thinking that would last me for years with the kids and still be a manageable size when they are off. Keeping costs reasonable, maintenance manageable and enough boat to venture further afield. Right now I could buy a local C&C 33 (with and Atomic4), or a local C&C 30 (diesel), or there are 29's, 30's and 34's within reach - the prices are similar. I plan on climbing aboard a few different boats to get a feel for size and space, but I'm trying to figure out what I'm getting into without having to learn the painfully hard way! I'm leaning towards a diesel (only because that seems to be common opinion and gas on my current boat has it's downsides), wheel steering and something fairly stable (so kids and girlfriend aren't barfing over the side -- which I gather eliminates the 29's from the list). Price wise I'd like to stay below $2. I have the cash set aside to buy the boat, but clearly bigger is not always better, the maintenance and insidious upkeep costs can add up quickly. I was able to do a quick sand and bottom paint on my M24 in 2.5 hrs. Assuming the cost and workload multiply with the displacement I'm guessing a 30ft (being twice the displacement) would be double the effort, a 34ft 3 times the work. At what point is it more work and you wish for a smaller/cheaper boat? Thanks in advance for the advice, Mark -- - Dr. Mark Bodnar B.Sc., D.C., FCCOPR(C) Bedford Chiropractic www.bedfordchiro.ca - There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. - George Santayana ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Bigger Boat Question
I'm still looking at boats, reading emails from this list and learning lots. Right now I'm sitting back, watching the market, looking to new boats that come up, and trying to figure out where I want to end up. Maybe some more experienced listers can offer some thoughts (on or off list). I know that everyone has there own criteria - but I'm trying to figure out the right boat for me. My Mirage 24 is quite small - 5ft of headroom (only my 8 yr old can stand up), not enough space to sleep 5 (me and 4 kids), lacks an enclosed head, no functional galley, noisy and smelly outboard. I envision wanting to do some more sailing - little further out of the harbour, some overnights (effectively boat camping with the kids), maybe a long weekend away with the girlfriend. But we've all heard the cracks "2 best days in a boater life - the day he/she buys their boat, and the day they sell it", or "A boat is a hole in the water you pour money into" - not really encouraging. So, why, if they are so terrible does everyone get 2 foot itis? Feel free to espouse on why did you end up with the boat you have? Do you wish you stayed smaller/cheaper/simpler? What would you say to yourself if you could go back and offer advice? Was this the best decision ever? If you could make a change what do you want? A bigger galley? Bigger cockpit? My temptation was to find a 29-30 foot boat that would work, thinking that would last me for years with the kids and still be a manageable size when they are off. Keeping costs reasonable, maintenance manageable and enough boat to venture further afield. Right now I could buy a local C&C 33 (with and Atomic4), or a local C&C 30 (diesel), or there are 29's, 30's and 34's within reach - the prices are similar. I plan on climbing aboard a few different boats to get a feel for size and space, but I'm trying to figure out what I'm getting into without having to learn the painfully hard way! I'm leaning towards a diesel (only because that seems to be common opinion and gas on my current boat has it's downsides), wheel steering and something fairly stable (so kids and girlfriend aren't barfing over the side -- which I gather eliminates the 29's from the list). Price wise I'd like to stay below $2. I have the cash set aside to buy the boat, but clearly bigger is not always better, the maintenance and insidious upkeep costs can add up quickly. I was able to do a quick sand and bottom paint on my M24 in 2.5 hrs. Assuming the cost and workload multiply with the displacement I'm guessing a 30ft (being twice the displacement) would be double the effort, a 34ft 3 times the work. At what point is it more work and you wish for a smaller/cheaper boat? Thanks in advance for the advice, Mark -- - Dr. Mark Bodnar B.Sc., D.C., FCCOPR(C) Bedford Chiropractic www.bedfordchiro.ca - There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. - George Santayana ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
