Re: Stus-List Non skid, C&C 39

[Bill Coleman]

No Corrosion, there are advantages to Sailing on Fresh Water!
When I prep Aluminum, well, if you can't take it to a plater and have it
alodized, then I use Sherman Williams Industrial Wash Primer, a two part
zinc chromate if they still sell it. To clean, maybe scrub with a SS wire
brush and some type of acid and watch out for your eyes then rinse well. The
wash primer bites into the aluminum and then you can paint.

Bill Coleman
C&C 39 


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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Mike Rose
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 11:09 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Non skid, C&C 39

Bill,

Did you have any toerail corrosion? Maybe not as much on fresh water...but I
have pitting. Just curious what proper prep would be. Is there a way to
"neutralize" it? Should I fill, fair, paint? If so, what products should be
used?

Thanks,
Mike
s/v Shannon Rose
C&C 39

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 6, 2013, at 6:17 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:

> Non skid, C&C 39

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Re: Stus-List Help with Wiring Needed

[kelly petew]

 







thanks for the help!
There's a new HarborFreight store near me.
 
Tom,
Yes, I have a compass light at the binnacle, but either it's energized to the 
running lights' circuit or through the engine controls panel. In getting the 
wire forward to the electrical panel, what route did you take the wire?   
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>3. Re:  Help with Wiring Needed (kelly petew)
>4. Re:  Help with Wiring Needed (Edd Schillay)
>5. Re:  Help with Wiring Needed (Tom)
>6. Re:  Help with Wiring Needed (Ken Heaton)
>7. Re:  Boat beauty (Wally Bryant)
>8. Re:  Original C & C keel drawings available (honeys...@aol.com)
>9. Re:  Original C & C keel drawings available (Sam Salter)
>   10. Re:  Original C & C keel drawings available (honeys...@aol.com)






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> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 13:48:10 -0500
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> I want to get 12V power to the binnacle of my C&C30MKII, for my chartplotter. 
>  
>  
> I'm not sure about the best way to run a wire from the panel to the binnacle. 
>  
> Has anyone had any experience with "fishing" a wire b/t the panel and 
> binnacle?  Is there special tool for this?
>  
> Thanks, 
> Pete Winters
> Siren Song
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> Pete,
> 
>   While I'm not familiar with the 30 MkII, the best tool I've ever used 
> to run wire is an untangled wire clothes hanger. 
> 
>   Also suggest, when running a new wire, also run through a thin 
> messenger line for future applications. You never know when you'll want to 
> add something more. 
>   
>   All the best,
> 
>   Edd
> 
> 
>   Edd M. Schillay
>   Starship Enterprise
>   C&C 37/40+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>   City Island, NY 
>   Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website
> 
> On Jan 6, 2013, at 1:48 PM, kelly petew  wrote:
> 
> 
> I want to get 12V power to the binnacle of my C&C30MKII, for my chartplotter. 
>  
>  
> I'm not sure about the best way to run a wire from the panel to the binnacle. 
>  
> Has anyone had any experience with "fishing" a wire b/t the panel and 
> binnacle?  Is there special tool for this?
>  
> Thanks, 
> Pete Winters
> Siren Song
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> I have fished my auto helm wires thru multiple times on my 30 mk2. 
> Just need to use a wire hanger or equivalent from the bottom in the aft 
> cabin.  I needed extra holes in the tubing since I brought multiple wires in. 
>   It is not fun when there are many to pull ina small space.   Do you already 
> have power to the compass light?
> 
> Tom c
> 1988 c&c 30 mk2
> Port colborne on
> 
> kelly petew  wrote:
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> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >I want to get 12V power to the binnacle of my C&C30MKII, for my 
> >chartplotter.  
> > 
> >I'm not sure about the best way to run a wire from the panel to the 
> >binnacle.  
> >Has anyone had any experience with "fishing" a wire b/t the panel 

Re: Stus-List Help with Wiring Needed

[Blair Clark]

On my C&C 30 MKII the compass light is on its own pull switch beside the engine 
display panel and key slot and is wired directly to the starter post.
 
FYI

Blair Clark 902-423-4651 
 



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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 10:19:25 -0500
Subject: Re: Stus-List Help with Wiring Needed





 






thanks for the help!
There's a new HarborFreight store near me.
 
Tom,
Yes, I have a compass light at the binnacle, but either it's energized to the 
running lights' circuit or through the engine controls panel.
 
In getting the wire forward to the electrical panel, what route did you take 
the wire?  
 
thanks,
 
Pete

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> 2. Re: Original C & C keel drawings available (Tim Goodyear)
> 3. Re: Help with Wiring Needed (kelly petew)
> 4. Re: Help with Wiring Needed (Edd Schillay)
> 5. Re: Help with Wiring Needed (Tom)
> 6. Re: Help with Wiring Needed (Ken Heaton)
> 7. Re: Boat beauty (Wally Bryant)
> 8. Re: Original C & C keel drawings available (honeys...@aol.com)
> 9. Re: Original C & C keel drawings available (Sam Salter)
> 10. Re: Original C & C keel drawings available (honeys...@aol.com)






> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 13:48:10 -0500
> From: kelly petew 
> To: cnc-list 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Help with Wiring Needed
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I want to get 12V power to the binnacle of my C&C30MKII, for my chartplotter. 
> 
> I'm not sure about the best way to run a wire from the panel to the binnacle. 
> Has anyone had any experience with "fishing" a wire b/t the panel and 
> binnacle? Is there special tool for this?
> 
> Thanks, 
> Pete Winters
> Siren Song
> C&C30MKII
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> Subject: Re: Stus-List Help with Wiring Needed
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> 
> Pete,
> 
> While I'm not familiar with the 30 MkII, the best tool I've ever used to run 
> wire is an untangled wire clothes hanger. 
> 
> Also suggest, when running a new wire, also run through a thin messenger line 
> for future applications. You never know when you'll want to add something 
> more. 
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Edd
> 
> 
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37/40+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY 
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website
> 
> On Jan 6, 2013, at 1:48 PM, kelly petew  wrote:
> 
> 
> I want to get 12V power to the binnacle of my C&C30MKII, for my chartplotter. 
> 
> I'm not sure about the best way to run a wire from the panel to the binnacle. 
> Has anyone had any experience with "fishing" a wire b/t the panel and 
> binnacle? Is there special tool for this?
> 
> Thanks, 
> Pete Winters
> Siren Song
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> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> I have fished my auto helm wires thru multiple times on my 30 mk2. 
> Just need to use a wire hanger or equivalent from the bottom in the aft 
> cabin. I needed extra holes in the tubing since I brought multiple wires in. 
> It is not fun when there are many to pull ina small space. Do you already 
> have power to the compass light?
> 
> Tom c
> 1988 c&c 30 mk2
> Port colborne on
> 
> kelly petew  wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >I want to get 12V power to the binnacle of my C&C30MKII, for my 
> >chartplotter. 
> > 
> >I'm not sure about the best way to run a wire from th

Re: Stus-List (Cold) Weather (was: Original C & C keel drawings available)

[Marek Dziedzic]

+/- 5C is mild (or for the wussies). We were at -19C this morning (and we are 
not even in the frigid North).

Btw. we are not frozen ourselves; only the things around us.

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Re: Stus-List Original C & C keel drawings available: mag articles

[Richard N. Bush]

Rob, I keep all of the old Sail and Cruising World mags for winter reading and 
reference: I just read an article you wrote about keels in 1991!


Richard
1987 33-II


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-Original Message-
From: Robert Mazza 
To: cnc-list 
Sent: Mon, Jan 7, 2013 11:34 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List Original C & C keel drawings available


Just to confirm, as mentioned by others, that many of the C&C drawings, keels 
and otherwise, that Bob does not have, and many that he does, are available 
from the Marine Museum of the Great Lakes at Kingston (Ontario) - 
http://www.marmuseum.ca/. The curator is Lena Beliveau (cura...@marmuseum.ca), 
who is very patient and helpful. 
 
I also encourage all those who are interested in preserving the history and 
heritage of C&C Yachts, as well as the history and heritage of recreational 
sailing generally, to become members of the Marine Museum of the Great Lakes, 
or even consider volunteering at the Museum if you live close to Kingston, ON.  
A single membership costs $40, and a senior membership is $30. Money well spent 
in a good cause.
 
Rob Mazza


On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 4:30 PM, D.Drake  wrote:

SAM 
What exactly did you get for your $60.00?
I would be very interested in building myself a half  hull model if there was a 
lines drawing included .
Sans Souci II C&C 26
David 



On 06/01/2013 3:37 PM, Sam Salter wrote:


Contact the curator:
cura...@marmuseum.ca
I've forgotten his name, but great to deal with.
Plans for my 26 cost about $60 if I remember correctly.
sam
C&C 26  Liquorice
Ghost Lake  Alberta


On 2013-01-06, at 1:13 PM, honeys...@aol.com wrote:



Hello
 
I would love to have the drawing for my 1974 C&C 39, please advise how do I go 
about purchasing the lines from the museum or who do I reach out to and how?
 
I bought the original builder's file from Rod Ball a few years ago and having 
the plans would make my boat file complete. Thanks for any advice that you may 
offer
 
Brgds
 
Jack Fitzgerald ('74 C&C 39 TM)
HONEY 
US127688 
Savannah, GA
 

In a message dated 1/6/2013 11:51:00 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
paradigmat...@gmail.com writes:
When you are done with them, it would be nice if you could donate them to the 
Maritime Museum of the Great Lakes in Kingston. They have the archive of all 
the C&C plans; several of us have bought scans of our designs from them.



On 6 January 2013 08:10, Bob Hickson  wrote:


I have had the original C & C blueprints for the 29 mark 2 keel scanned.
I also have a sketch of the keel bolt sizes and locations
 
If you would like to have the scanned PDF files, please send me an email 
(bobhick...@rogers.com) and I will forward it to you
 
I have also located drawings for the following boats;
Ø  C & C 39 custom (NE39) circa 1984
Ø  C & C 62 custom (Jorge Altamirano) circa 1981
Ø  C & C 52 custom circa 1983
Ø  C & C 67 custom (Kingston Boat) circa 1979
Ø  C & C 35 & 36 centreboard keel (same keel but 35 had a fiberglass spacer 
between the keel & hull) circa 1983 this also includes drawings of the 
centreboard and all lifting hardware
Ø  C & C 36 centreboard circa 1976
Ø  C & C “Evergreen” circa 1977 – Canada Cup challenger
Ø  C & C 40 bolt on keel shoe for tall rig circa 1980
 
None of these drawings have been scanned to PDF so send a separate email if you 
would like any of these drawings
 
I will look through more of the old files and provide another list in the future
 
 
Best regards,
Bob Hickson, P. Eng, RHI, CEA
C&C 29-2 Flying Colours
(416) 919-2297
bobhick...@rogers.com
 
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Re: Stus-List Original C & C keel drawings available: mag articles

[Robert Mazza]

Richard,

If you are only up to 1991 in your "catch up" reading, you have a long way
to go! I don't remember writing an article on keels back then, but I'm
realizing that there's a lot I can't remember. I'm sure it has nothing to
do with advancing years. If you could scan the article and send me a copy,
I'd appreciate it. I'm curious to see that I wrote!

Rob




On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Richard N. Bush  wrote:

> Rob, I keep all of the old Sail and Cruising World mags for winter reading
> and reference: I just read an article you wrote about keels in 1991!
>
>  Richard
> 1987 33-II
>
>
> Richard N. Bush Law Offices
> 235 South Fifth Street, Fourth Floor
> Louisville, Kentucky 40202
> 502-584-7255
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Mazza 
> To: cnc-list 
> Sent: Mon, Jan 7, 2013 11:34 am
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Original C & C keel drawings available
>
>  Just to confirm, as mentioned by others, that many of the C&C drawings,
> keels and otherwise, that Bob does not have, and many that he does, are
> available from the Marine Museum of the Great Lakes at Kingston (Ontario) -
> http://www.marmuseum.ca/. The curator is Lena Beliveau (
> cura...@marmuseum.ca), who is very patient and helpful.
>
> I also encourage all those who are interested in preserving the history
> and heritage of C&C Yachts, as well as the history and heritage of
> recreational sailing generally, to become members of the Marine Museum of
> the Great Lakes, or even consider volunteering at the Museum if you live
> close to Kingston, ON.  A single membership costs $40, and a senior
> membership is $30. Money well spent in a good cause.
>
> Rob Mazza
>
>  On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 4:30 PM, D.Drake  wrote:
>
>> SAM
>> What exactly did you get for your $60.00?
>> I would be very interested in building myself a half  hull model if there
>> was a lines drawing included .
>> Sans Souci II C&C 26
>> David
>>
>> On 06/01/2013 3:37 PM, Sam Salter wrote:
>>
>> Contact the curator:
>> cura...@marmuseum.ca
>> I've forgotten his name, but great to deal with.
>> Plans for my 26 cost about $60 if I remember correctly.
>> sam
>> C&C 26  Liquorice
>> Ghost Lake  Alberta
>>
>>  On 2013-01-06, at 1:13 PM, honeys...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>   Hello
>>
>> I would love to have the drawing for my 1974 C&C 39, please advise how do
>> I go about purchasing the lines from the museum or who do I reach out to
>> and how?
>>
>> I bought the original builder's file from Rod Ball a few years ago and
>> having the plans would make my boat file complete. Thanks for any advice
>> that you may offer
>>
>> Brgds
>>
>> Jack Fitzgerald ('74 C&C 39 TM)
>> HONEY
>> US127688
>> Savannah, GA
>>
>>  In a message dated 1/6/2013 11:51:00 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> paradigmat...@gmail.com writes:
>>
>> When you are done with them, it would be nice if you could donate them to
>> the Maritime Museum of the Great Lakes in Kingston. They have the archive
>> of all the C&C plans; several of us have bought scans of our designs from
>> them.
>>
>>
>> On 6 January 2013 08:10, Bob Hickson  wrote:
>>
>>>  I have had the original C & C blueprints for the 29 mark 2 keel
>>> scanned.
>>> I also have a sketch of the keel bolt sizes and locations
>>>
>>> If you would like to have the scanned PDF files, please send me an email
>>> (bobhick...@rogers.com) and I will forward it to you
>>>
>>> I have also located drawings for the following boats;
>>> Ø  C & C 39 custom (NE39) circa 1984
>>> Ø  C & C 62 custom (Jorge Altamirano) circa 1981
>>> Ø  C & C 52 custom circa 1983
>>> Ø  C & C 67 custom (Kingston Boat) circa 1979
>>> Ø  C & C 35 & 36 centreboard keel (same keel but 35 had a fiberglass
>>> spacer between the keel & hull) circa 1983 this also includes drawings
>>> of the centreboard and all lifting hardware
>>> Ø  C & C 36 centreboard circa 1976
>>> Ø  C & C “Evergreen” circa 1977 – Canada Cup challenger
>>> Ø  C & C 40 bolt on keel shoe for tall rig circa 1980
>>>
>>> None of these drawings have been scanned to PDF so send a separate email
>>> if you would like any of these drawings
>>>
>>> I will look through more of the old files and provide another list in
>>> the future
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> *Bob Hickson, P. Eng, RHI, CEA*
>>> *C&C 29-2 Flying Colours*
>>> *(416) 919-2297*
>>> *bobhick...@rogers.com*
>>> **
>>>  __/) 
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
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>> Paradigm Shift
>> C&C 35 Mk III
>> Victoria, BC
>>
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Stus-List C&C 29 -2 keel drawings

[Bob Hickson]

The number of requests for the drawings has been surprising.

So far, I have forwarded the drawings to 9 owners.

In return for the drawings, I have been asking for details / contact info on
the boats.

 

So far, I have 21 boats on the list with the highest hull number being 702 -
built in August 1985.

As the Rhode Island plant was closed in November 1985, I am assuming that
this must be near the end of the production run for the 29-2.

 

Does anyone know if production on the 29-2 was moved to the Niagara plant
when Rhode Island closed?

 

I will attempt to compile a list of 29-2's if any owners want to send the
information to bobhick...@rogers.com

 

 

Best regards,

Bob Hickson, P. Eng, RHI, CEA

C&C 29-2 Flying Colours

(416) 919-2297

  bobhick...@rogers.com

 

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Re: Stus-List Original C & C keel drawings available: mag articles

[Richard N. Bush]

Rob, will do, (to your point however, I don't read them chronologically, I 
usually look for ones with something to do with a current project or C&C ads 
then peruse accordingly...) 


Richard

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-Original Message-
From: Robert Mazza 
To: cnc-list 
Sent: Mon, Jan 7, 2013 12:24 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Original C & C keel drawings available: mag articles


Richard,
 
If you are only up to 1991 in your "catch up" reading, you have a long way to 
go! I don't remember writing an article on keels back then, but I'm realizing 
that there's a lot I can't remember. I'm sure it has nothing to do with 
advancing years. If you could scan the article and send me a copy, I'd 
appreciate it. I'm curious to see that I wrote! 
 
Rob
 


 
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Richard N. Bush  wrote:

Rob, I keep all of the old Sail and Cruising World mags for winter reading and 
reference: I just read an article you wrote about keels in 1991!


Richard
1987 33-II
 

Richard N. Bush Law Offices 
235 South Fifth Street, Fourth Floor 
Louisville, Kentucky 40202 
502-584-7255



-Original Message-
From: Robert Mazza 
To: cnc-list 
Sent: Mon, Jan 7, 2013 11:34 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List Original C & C keel drawings available


Just to confirm, as mentioned by others, that many of the C&C drawings, keels 
and otherwise, that Bob does not have, and many that he does, are available 
from the Marine Museum of the Great Lakes at Kingston (Ontario) - 
http://www.marmuseum.ca/. The curator is Lena Beliveau (cura...@marmuseum.ca), 
who is very patient and helpful. 
 
I also encourage all those who are interested in preserving the history and 
heritage of C&C Yachts, as well as the history and heritage of recreational 
sailing generally, to become members of the Marine Museum of the Great Lakes, 
or even consider volunteering at the Museum if you live close to Kingston, ON.  
A single membership costs $40, and a senior membership is $30. Money well spent 
in a good cause.
 
Rob Mazza


On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 4:30 PM, D.Drake  wrote:

SAM 
What exactly did you get for your $60.00?
I would be very interested in building myself a half  hull model if there was a 
lines drawing included .
Sans Souci II C&C 26
David 



On 06/01/2013 3:37 PM, Sam Salter wrote:


Contact the curator:
cura...@marmuseum.ca
I've forgotten his name, but great to deal with.
Plans for my 26 cost about $60 if I remember correctly.
sam
C&C 26  Liquorice
Ghost Lake  Alberta


On 2013-01-06, at 1:13 PM, honeys...@aol.com wrote:



Hello
 
I would love to have the drawing for my 1974 C&C 39, please advise how do I go 
about purchasing the lines from the museum or who do I reach out to and how?
 
I bought the original builder's file from Rod Ball a few years ago and having 
the plans would make my boat file complete. Thanks for any advice that you may 
offer
 
Brgds
 
Jack Fitzgerald ('74 C&C 39 TM)
HONEY 
US127688 
Savannah, GA
 

In a message dated 1/6/2013 11:51:00 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
paradigmat...@gmail.com writes:
When you are done with them, it would be nice if you could donate them to the 
Maritime Museum of the Great Lakes in Kingston. They have the archive of all 
the C&C plans; several of us have bought scans of our designs from them.



On 6 January 2013 08:10, Bob Hickson  wrote:


I have had the original C & C blueprints for the 29 mark 2 keel scanned.
I also have a sketch of the keel bolt sizes and locations
 
If you would like to have the scanned PDF files, please send me an email 
(bobhick...@rogers.com) and I will forward it to you
 
I have also located drawings for the following boats;
Ø  C & C 39 custom (NE39) circa 1984
Ø  C & C 62 custom (Jorge Altamirano) circa 1981
Ø  C & C 52 custom circa 1983
Ø  C & C 67 custom (Kingston Boat) circa 1979
Ø  C & C 35 & 36 centreboard keel (same keel but 35 had a fiberglass spacer 
between the keel & hull) circa 1983 this also includes drawings of the 
centreboard and all lifting hardware
Ø  C & C 36 centreboard circa 1976
Ø  C & C “Evergreen” circa 1977 – Canada Cup challenger
Ø  C & C 40 bolt on keel shoe for tall rig circa 1980
 
None of these drawings have been scanned to PDF so send a separate email if you 
would like any of these drawings
 
I will look through more of the old files and provide another list in the future
 
 
Best regards,
Bob Hickson, P. Eng, RHI, CEA
C&C 29-2 Flying Colours
(416) 919-2297
bobhick...@rogers.com
 
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Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm

[Robert Abbott]

The topic is back.last year, in an attempt to inhibit the growth of 
mussels on the prop and prop shaft, I coated them with lanolin.was 
told or read this would help.  When the boat was hauled in October, the 
prop/shaft were completely encased in mussels, again.  The growth has a 
noticeable, negative effect on the performance of the prop later in the 
season e.g.  higher RPM's to attain same cruising speed when motoring.  
After trying a few so called 'remedies', I am now convinced the only 
effective way to keep the prop free of marine growth (mussels on mine) 
is to dive a few times a season and physically remove them.  Maybe I 
need a few pounds of lead, my safety harness on and tethered to the 
toerail and a few feet of hose the top end tied to the pushpit and me 
breathing from the bottom end.


However, before I comtemplated something like that, there is one more 
'remedy' I have heard/read about..it involves coating the prop/shaft 
with "galvanized zinc spray paint".   I have never seen this done and do 
not know what effect it might have on the bronze prop (shouldn't be 
negative but I'm not sure).  There is never any marine growth on my 
sacrificial zinc(s).


Has anyone heard of this?  Anyone with any experience with this paint on 
props?


Bob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


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Re: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm

[Della Barba, Joe]

I tried the paint and it did not work :(
Your hose idea is quite dangerous. NEVER try and use a snorkel longer than the 
kind you buy in the store.

Joe Della Barba

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert Abbott
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 1:55 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm

The topic is back.last year, in an attempt to inhibit the growth of mussels 
on the prop and prop shaft, I coated them with lanolin.was told or read 
this would help.  When the boat was hauled in October, the prop/shaft were 
completely encased in mussels, again.  The growth has a noticeable, negative 
effect on the performance of the prop later in the season e.g.  higher RPM's to 
attain same cruising speed when motoring.  
After trying a few so called 'remedies', I am now convinced the only effective 
way to keep the prop free of marine growth (mussels on mine) is to dive a few 
times a season and physically remove them.  Maybe I need a few pounds of lead, 
my safety harness on and tethered to the toerail and a few feet of hose the top 
end tied to the pushpit and me breathing from the bottom end.

However, before I comtemplated something like that, there is one more 'remedy' 
I have heard/read about..it involves coating the prop/shaft 
with "galvanized zinc spray paint".   I have never seen this done and do 
not know what effect it might have on the bronze prop (shouldn't be negative 
but I'm not sure).  There is never any marine growth on my sacrificial zinc(s).

Has anyone heard of this?  Anyone with any experience with this paint on props?

Bob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


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Re: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm

[Martin DeYoung]

Bob,

I have used Pettit's Zinc Coat Barnacle Barrier #1792 (locally $16 to $17 per 
rattle can) for more than 10 years.  I have been very satisfied with the 
results.

Here in the Puget Sound area (cold dark salt water) it keeps growth off the 
prop and shaft for up to two years.  One can covers a three bladed MAX prop, 
the SS strut, and the SS shaft.  Calypso stays in the water year round.  After 
about 18 months tiny barnacles will begin to appear.

Application is easy.  I give the prop, strut, and shaft a light sanding, clean 
with solvent, then apply several coats with (at >50F) 1 ½ hours drying time 
between coats.

Martin
Calypso
1970 C&C 43
Seattle

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert Abbott
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 10:55 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm

The topic is back.last year, in an attempt to inhibit the growth of 
mussels on the prop and prop shaft, I coated them with lanolin.was 
told or read this would help.  When the boat was hauled in October, the 
prop/shaft were completely encased in mussels, again.  The growth has a 
noticeable, negative effect on the performance of the prop later in the 
season e.g.  higher RPM's to attain same cruising speed when motoring.  
After trying a few so called 'remedies', I am now convinced the only 
effective way to keep the prop free of marine growth (mussels on mine) 
is to dive a few times a season and physically remove them.  Maybe I 
need a few pounds of lead, my safety harness on and tethered to the 
toerail and a few feet of hose the top end tied to the pushpit and me 
breathing from the bottom end.

However, before I comtemplated something like that, there is one more 
'remedy' I have heard/read about..it involves coating the prop/shaft 
with "galvanized zinc spray paint".   I have never seen this done and do 
not know what effect it might have on the bronze prop (shouldn't be 
negative but I'm not sure).  There is never any marine growth on my 
sacrificial zinc(s).

Has anyone heard of this?  Anyone with any experience with this paint on 
props?

Bob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


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Re: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm

[Joel Aronson]

There is a product called Prop-Speed (I think that's it) that is VERY
expensive but is supposed to be effective.  I will try it at the next
haul-out.


On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Martin DeYoung wrote:

> Bob,
>
> I have used Pettit's Zinc Coat Barnacle Barrier #1792 (locally $16 to $17
> per rattle can) for more than 10 years.  I have been very satisfied with
> the results.
>
> Here in the Puget Sound area (cold dark salt water) it keeps growth off
> the prop and shaft for up to two years.  One can covers a three bladed MAX
> prop, the SS strut, and the SS shaft.  Calypso stays in the water year
> round.  After about 18 months tiny barnacles will begin to appear.
>
> Application is easy.  I give the prop, strut, and shaft a light sanding,
> clean with solvent, then apply several coats with (at >50F) 1 ½ hours
> drying time between coats.
>
> Martin
> Calypso
> 1970 C&C 43
> Seattle
>
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert
> Abbott
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 10:55 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm
>
> The topic is back.last year, in an attempt to inhibit the growth of
> mussels on the prop and prop shaft, I coated them with lanolin.was
> told or read this would help.  When the boat was hauled in October, the
> prop/shaft were completely encased in mussels, again.  The growth has a
> noticeable, negative effect on the performance of the prop later in the
> season e.g.  higher RPM's to attain same cruising speed when motoring.
> After trying a few so called 'remedies', I am now convinced the only
> effective way to keep the prop free of marine growth (mussels on mine)
> is to dive a few times a season and physically remove them.  Maybe I
> need a few pounds of lead, my safety harness on and tethered to the
> toerail and a few feet of hose the top end tied to the pushpit and me
> breathing from the bottom end.
>
> However, before I comtemplated something like that, there is one more
> 'remedy' I have heard/read about..it involves coating the prop/shaft
> with "galvanized zinc spray paint".   I have never seen this done and do
> not know what effect it might have on the bronze prop (shouldn't be
> negative but I'm not sure).  There is never any marine growth on my
> sacrificial zinc(s).
>
> Has anyone heard of this?  Anyone with any experience with this paint on
> props?
>
> Bob Abbott
> AZURA
> C&C 32 - 84
> Halifax, N.S.
>
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Re: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm

[djhaug...@juno.com]

Is the prop bronze?  I polished mine up and that was it.  I didn't launch until 
August but, there was nothing on the prop in late September when I had to dive 
and tighten up the zincs on my prop shaft and nothing at haul out in November...

I don't think they like bronze.  There was no growth on the untreated raw water 
inlet strainer either.

Danny.
Lolita
Viking 33
Westport Point, MA


-- Original Message --
From: Martin DeYoung 
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 19:16:02 +

Bob,

I have used Pettit's Zinc Coat Barnacle Barrier #1792 (locally $16 to $17 per 
rattle can) for more than 10 years.  I have been very satisfied with the 
results.

Here in the Puget Sound area (cold dark salt water) it keeps growth off the 
prop and shaft for up to two years.  One can covers a three bladed MAX prop, 
the SS strut, and the SS shaft.  Calypso stays in the water year round.  After 
about 18 months tiny barnacles will begin to appear.

Application is easy.  I give the prop, strut, and shaft a light sanding, clean 
with solvent, then apply several coats with (at >50F) 1 � hours drying 
time between coats.

Martin
Calypso
1970 C&C 43
Seattle

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert Abbott
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 10:55 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm

The topic is back.last year, in an attempt to inhibit the growth of 
mussels on the prop and prop shaft, I coated them with lanolin.was 
told or read this would help.  When the boat was hauled in October, the 
prop/shaft were completely encased in mussels, again.  The growth has a 
noticeable, negative effect on the performance of the prop later in the 
season e.g.  higher RPM's to attain same cruising speed when motoring.  
After trying a few so called 'remedies', I am now convinced the only 
effective way to keep the prop free of marine growth (mussels on mine) 
is to dive a few times a season and physically remove them.  Maybe I 
need a few pounds of lead, my safety harness on and tethered to the 
toerail and a few feet of hose the top end tied to the pushpit and me 
breathing from the bottom end.

However, before I comtemplated something like that, there is one more 
'remedy' I have heard/read about..it involves coating the prop/shaft 
with "galvanized zinc spray paint".   I have never seen this done and do 
not know what effect it might have on the bronze prop (shouldn't be 
negative but I'm not sure).  There is never any marine growth on my 
sacrificial zinc(s).

Has anyone heard of this?  Anyone with any experience with this paint on 
props?

Bob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


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Re: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm

[Bill Connon]

Robert Abbott wrote:
The topic is back.last year, in an attempt to inhibit the growth 
of mussels on the prop and prop shaft, I coated them with 
lanolin.was told or read this would help.  When the boat was 
hauled in October, the prop/shaft were completely encased in mussels, 
again.  The growth has a noticeable, negative effect on the 
performance of the prop later in the season e.g.  higher RPM's to 
attain same cruising speed when motoring.  After trying a few so 
called 'remedies', I am now convinced the only effective way to keep 
the prop free of marine growth (mussels on mine) is to dive a few 
times a season and physically remove them.  Maybe I need a few pounds 
of lead, my safety harness on and tethered to the toerail and a few 
feet of hose the top end tied to the pushpit and me breathing from the 
bottom end.


However, before I comtemplated something like that, there is one more 
'remedy' I have heard/read about..it involves coating the 
prop/shaft with "galvanized zinc spray paint".   I have never seen 
this done and do not know what effect it might have on the bronze prop 
(shouldn't be negative but I'm not sure).  There is never any marine 
growth on my sacrificial zinc(s).


Has anyone heard of this?  Anyone with any experience with this paint 
on props?


Bob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


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Bob,

The breathing tube won't do it. I tried that as a kid and you won't get 
any air. You'll need an air supply - bottle or compressor and a 
mouthpiece to control the pressure.


Bill
Caprice 1

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Re: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm

[Edd Schillay]

My wife and I found the best solution for a mussel problem is some fra diavlo 
sauce and some white wine. 


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website







On Jan 7, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Bill Connon  wrote:

> Robert Abbott wrote:
>> The topic is back.last year, in an attempt to inhibit the growth of 
>> mussels on the prop and prop shaft, I coated them with lanolin.was told 
>> or read this would help.  When the boat was hauled in October, the 
>> prop/shaft were completely encased in mussels, again.  The growth has a 
>> noticeable, negative effect on the performance of the prop later in the 
>> season e.g.  higher RPM's to attain same cruising speed when motoring.  
>> After trying a few so called 'remedies', I am now convinced the only 
>> effective way to keep the prop free of marine growth (mussels on mine) is to 
>> dive a few times a season and physically remove them.  Maybe I need a few 
>> pounds of lead, my safety harness on and tethered to the toerail and a few 
>> feet of hose the top end tied to the pushpit and me breathing from the 
>> bottom end.
>> 
>> However, before I comtemplated something like that, there is one more 
>> 'remedy' I have heard/read about..it involves coating the prop/shaft 
>> with "galvanized zinc spray paint".   I have never seen this done and do not 
>> know what effect it might have on the bronze prop (shouldn't be negative but 
>> I'm not sure).  There is never any marine growth on my sacrificial zinc(s).
>> 
>> Has anyone heard of this?  Anyone with any experience with this paint on 
>> props?
>> 
>> Bob Abbott
>> AZURA
>> C&C 32 - 84
>> Halifax, N.S.
>> 
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> 
> The breathing tube won't do it. I tried that as a kid and you won't get any 
> air. You'll need an air supply - bottle or compressor and a mouthpiece to 
> control the pressure.
> 
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> Caprice 1
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Re: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm

Bob: 

I'm disappointed that once again you are trying to shirk your
responsibilities as the club's official mussel magnet. Retribution will
strike

Rich Knowles
INDIGO - LF38
Halifax, NS



-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Abbott
Sent: January 7, 2013 14:55
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm

The topic is back.last year, in an attempt to inhibit the growth of 
mussels on the prop and prop shaft, I coated them with lanolin.was 
told or read this would help.  When the boat was hauled in October, the 
prop/shaft were completely encased in mussels, again.  The growth has a 
noticeable, negative effect on the performance of the prop later in the 
season e.g.  higher RPM's to attain same cruising speed when motoring.  
After trying a few so called 'remedies', I am now convinced the only 
effective way to keep the prop free of marine growth (mussels on mine) 
is to dive a few times a season and physically remove them.  Maybe I 
need a few pounds of lead, my safety harness on and tethered to the 
toerail and a few feet of hose the top end tied to the pushpit and me 
breathing from the bottom end.

However, before I comtemplated something like that, there is one more 
'remedy' I have heard/read about..it involves coating the prop/shaft 
with "galvanized zinc spray paint".   I have never seen this done and do 
not know what effect it might have on the bronze prop (shouldn't be 
negative but I'm not sure).  There is never any marine growth on my 
sacrificial zinc(s).

Has anyone heard of this?  Anyone with any experience with this paint on 
props?

Bob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


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Re: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm

[Eric Frank]

Bob,

I have used the Petit product (Zinc Coat Barnacle Barrier)  for the last couple 
of years here in Buzzard's Bay, MA with mixed results.  As others report, I 
sanded the prop down to very clean bronze and then applied 3 coats of the zinc 
paint from the spray can.  I did wait about 2 weeks after painting before 
launching.  In the fall, the prop was covered with barnacles.  So last spring I 
scrapped off all the barnacles but did not sand off all the old paint and then 
did a triple spray again, but only a few days before launch.  On top of that I 
smeared a very viscous lanolin, based on the discussions on the list, and 
smoothed it out with a hot air gun. This fall, the boat emerged from a full 
season in the water with virtually no barnacles on the prop or the hull (which 
was painted with a new layer of Micron 66).  So I attributed the difference to 
the lanolin, which seemed to be still present on the prop, as it feels slightly 
greasy.  True, the engine is hardly used at all because we are on a mooring and 
usually don't use it much at all unless the wind dies.

So it is interesting that Danny, only a few miles away, saw no growth with just 
a bronze prop. - no paint or grease.  It seems very difficult to generalize 
from the very different reports.

Eric
Eric Frank
Cat's Paw
C&C 35 Mk II
Mattapoisett, MA

> Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2013 14:54:48 -0400
> From: Robert Abbott 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm
> Message-ID: <50eb19f8.5080...@eastlink.ca>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> The topic is back.last year, in an attempt to inhibit the growth of 
> mussels on the prop and prop shaft, I coated them with lanolin.was 
> told or read this would help.  When the boat was hauled in October, the 
> prop/shaft were completely encased in mussels, again.  The growth has a 
> noticeable, negative effect on the performance of the prop later in the 
> season e.g.  higher RPM's to attain same cruising speed when motoring.  
> After trying a few so called 'remedies', I am now convinced the only 
> effective way to keep the prop free of marine growth (mussels on mine) 
> is to dive a few times a season and physically remove them.  Maybe I 
> need a few pounds of lead, my safety harness on and tethered to the 
> toerail and a few feet of hose the top end tied to the pushpit and me 
> breathing from the bottom end.
> 
> However, before I comtemplated something like that, there is one more 
> 'remedy' I have heard/read about..it involves coating the prop/shaft 
> with "galvanized zinc spray paint".   I have never seen this done and do 
> not know what effect it might have on the bronze prop (shouldn't be 
> negative but I'm not sure).  There is never any marine growth on my 
> sacrificial zinc(s).
> 
> Has anyone heard of this?  Anyone with any experience with this paint on 
> props?
> 
> Bob Abbott
> AZURA
> C&C 32 - 84
> Halifax, N.S.




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Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm

[Robert Abbott]

Joel:

A club member with a Nonsuch 36 has tried Prop-Speed (he bought it in 
Florida) here with little success...I have seen his prop at haulout the 
past two seasons, better than mine, but it was still covered in marine 
growth.  He says he won't bother buying any more of it.


Bob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


On 2013/01/07 3:20 PM, Joel Aronson wrote:
There is a product called Prop-Speed (I think that's it) that is VERY 
expensive but is supposed to be effective.  I will try it at the next 
haul-out.



On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Martin DeYoung 
mailto:mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com>> wrote:


Bob,

I have used Pettit's Zinc Coat Barnacle Barrier #1792 (locally $16
to $17 per rattle can) for more than 10 years.  I have been very
satisfied with the results.

Here in the Puget Sound area (cold dark salt water) it keeps
growth off the prop and shaft for up to two years.  One can covers
a three bladed MAX prop, the SS strut, and the SS shaft.  Calypso
stays in the water year round.  After about 18 months tiny
barnacles will begin to appear.

Application is easy.  I give the prop, strut, and shaft a light
sanding, clean with solvent, then apply several coats with (at
>50F) 1 ½ hours drying time between coats.

Martin
Calypso
1970 C&C 43
Seattle

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Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 10:55 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm

The topic is back.last year, in an attempt to inhibit the
growth of
mussels on the prop and prop shaft, I coated them with lanolin.was
told or read this would help.  When the boat was hauled in
October, the
prop/shaft were completely encased in mussels, again.  The growth
has a
noticeable, negative effect on the performance of the prop later
in the
season e.g.  higher RPM's to attain same cruising speed when motoring.
After trying a few so called 'remedies', I am now convinced the only
effective way to keep the prop free of marine growth (mussels on mine)
is to dive a few times a season and physically remove them.  Maybe I
need a few pounds of lead, my safety harness on and tethered to the
toerail and a few feet of hose the top end tied to the pushpit and me
breathing from the bottom end.

However, before I comtemplated something like that, there is one more
'remedy' I have heard/read about..it involves coating the
prop/shaft
with "galvanized zinc spray paint".   I have never seen this done
and do
not know what effect it might have on the bronze prop (shouldn't be
negative but I'm not sure).  There is never any marine growth on my
sacrificial zinc(s).

Has anyone heard of this?  Anyone with any experience with this
paint on
props?

Bob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


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Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm

[Robert Abbott]

Yes Danny, the prop is bronzeboat is launched mid-May and hauled 
mid-October.and it is used almost every day.last Summer, I had 
the boat out for a sail exactly 120 days and every day the engine is 
used, so the prop is 'spinning'.  My prop is practically encased in 
mussels at haulout, thus my obsession with trying to keep it clean.  And 
yes, I polish mine as wellit shines after it gets it final cleaning 
with Brasso.


Bob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


On 2013/01/07 3:23 PM, djhaug...@juno.com wrote:

Is the prop bronze?  I polished mine up and that was it.  I didn't launch until 
August but, there was nothing on the prop in late September when I had to dive 
and tighten up the zincs on my prop shaft and nothing at haul out in November...

I don't think they like bronze.  There was no growth on the untreated raw water 
inlet strainer either.

Danny.
Lolita
Viking 33
Westport Point, MA


-- Original Message --
From: Martin DeYoung 
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 19:16:02 +

Bob,

I have used Pettit's Zinc Coat Barnacle Barrier #1792 (locally $16 to $17 per 
rattle can) for more than 10 years.  I have been very satisfied with the 
results.

Here in the Puget Sound area (cold dark salt water) it keeps growth off the 
prop and shaft for up to two years.  One can covers a three bladed MAX prop, 
the SS strut, and the SS shaft.  Calypso stays in the water year round.  After 
about 18 months tiny barnacles will begin to appear.

Application is easy.  I give the prop, strut, and shaft a light sanding, clean with 
solvent, then apply several coats with (at >50F) 1 � hours drying time 
between coats.

Martin
Calypso
1970 C&C 43
Seattle

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Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 10:55 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm

The topic is back.last year, in an attempt to inhibit the growth of
mussels on the prop and prop shaft, I coated them with lanolin.was
told or read this would help.  When the boat was hauled in October, the
prop/shaft were completely encased in mussels, again.  The growth has a
noticeable, negative effect on the performance of the prop later in the
season e.g.  higher RPM's to attain same cruising speed when motoring.
After trying a few so called 'remedies', I am now convinced the only
effective way to keep the prop free of marine growth (mussels on mine)
is to dive a few times a season and physically remove them.  Maybe I
need a few pounds of lead, my safety harness on and tethered to the
toerail and a few feet of hose the top end tied to the pushpit and me
breathing from the bottom end.

However, before I comtemplated something like that, there is one more
'remedy' I have heard/read about..it involves coating the prop/shaft
with "galvanized zinc spray paint".   I have never seen this done and do
not know what effect it might have on the bronze prop (shouldn't be
negative but I'm not sure).  There is never any marine growth on my
sacrificial zinc(s).

Has anyone heard of this?  Anyone with any experience with this paint on
props?

Bob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


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Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm

[Robert Abbott]

Edd, I could have adequately provided you and your wife with a fine meal 
the last two hauloutsyou pay the shipping charges.


Bob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.





On 2013/01/07 3:33 PM, Edd Schillay wrote:
My wife and I found the best solution for a mussel problem is some fra 
diavlo sauce and some white wine.


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website 









On Jan 7, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Bill Connon > wrote:



Robert Abbott wrote:
The topic is back.last year, in an attempt to inhibit the growth 
of mussels on the prop and prop shaft, I coated them with 
lanolin.was told or read this would help.  When the boat was 
hauled in October, the prop/shaft were completely encased in 
mussels, again.  The growth has a noticeable, negative effect on the 
performance of the prop later in the season e.g.  higher RPM's to 
attain same cruising speed when motoring.  After trying a few so 
called 'remedies', I am now convinced the only effective way to keep 
the prop free of marine growth (mussels on mine) is to dive a few 
times a season and physically remove them.  Maybe I need a few 
pounds of lead, my safety harness on and tethered to the toerail and 
a few feet of hose the top end tied to the pushpit and me breathing 
from the bottom end.


However, before I comtemplated something like that, there is one 
more 'remedy' I have heard/read about..it involves coating the 
prop/shaft with "galvanized zinc spray paint".   I have never seen 
this done and do not know what effect it might have on the bronze 
prop (shouldn't be negative but I'm not sure).  There is never any 
marine growth on my sacrificial zinc(s).


Has anyone heard of this?  Anyone with any experience with this 
paint on props?


Bob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


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Bob,

The breathing tube won't do it. I tried that as a kid and you won't 
get any air. You'll need an air supply - bottle or compressor and a 
mouthpiece to control the pressure.


Bill
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Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm

[Robert Abbott]

Eric:
I used Micron 66 this season and I think the paint is 
incredible.after 5 months in the water, it didn't need a 
cleaning/pressure wash at hauloutno growth of any kind.


My prop/shaft is another story..I have tried applying a marine grade 
grease, last year I applied lanolin after heating the metal with a heat 
gun,the stuff just melted onto the prop and resulted in a thick 
coat.no sign of the lanolin on haulout, but a harvest of mussels.
The mussels attach to the SS shaft so hard that where the shaft enter to 
hull, the mussels gouge out the getcoat.every Spring I fill with 
West System resin, every Fall the mussels remove it.


I am betting the galvanized zinc spray paint at the hardware store is 
the same as the Petit product.if it won't damage the prop in any 
way, it might be worth a try.


Getting Rich Knowles to suspend his prayer meetings at the club asking 
for all the North West Arm mussels to attach to my prop might help as well.


Bob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax. N.S.






On 2013/01/07 4:09 PM, Eric Frank wrote:

Bob,

I have used the Petit product (Zinc Coat Barnacle Barrier)  for the last couple 
of years here in Buzzard's Bay, MA with mixed results.  As others report, I 
sanded the prop down to very clean bronze and then applied 3 coats of the zinc 
paint from the spray can.  I did wait about 2 weeks after painting before 
launching.  In the fall, the prop was covered with barnacles.  So last spring I 
scrapped off all the barnacles but did not sand off all the old paint and then 
did a triple spray again, but only a few days before launch.  On top of that I 
smeared a very viscous lanolin, based on the discussions on the list, and 
smoothed it out with a hot air gun. This fall, the boat emerged from a full 
season in the water with virtually no barnacles on the prop or the hull (which 
was painted with a new layer of Micron 66).  So I attributed the difference to 
the lanolin, which seemed to be still present on the prop, as it feels slightly 
greasy.  True, the engine is hardly used at all because we are
  on a mooring and usually don't use it much at all unless the wind dies.

So it is interesting that Danny, only a few miles away, saw no growth with just 
a bronze prop. - no paint or grease.  It seems very difficult to generalize 
from the very different reports.

Eric
Eric Frank
Cat's Paw
C&C 35 Mk II
Mattapoisett, MA


Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2013 14:54:48 -0400
From: Robert Abbott 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm
Message-ID: <50eb19f8.5080...@eastlink.ca>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

The topic is back.last year, in an attempt to inhibit the growth of
mussels on the prop and prop shaft, I coated them with lanolin.was
told or read this would help.  When the boat was hauled in October, the
prop/shaft were completely encased in mussels, again.  The growth has a
noticeable, negative effect on the performance of the prop later in the
season e.g.  higher RPM's to attain same cruising speed when motoring.
After trying a few so called 'remedies', I am now convinced the only
effective way to keep the prop free of marine growth (mussels on mine)
is to dive a few times a season and physically remove them.  Maybe I
need a few pounds of lead, my safety harness on and tethered to the
toerail and a few feet of hose the top end tied to the pushpit and me
breathing from the bottom end.

However, before I comtemplated something like that, there is one more
'remedy' I have heard/read about..it involves coating the prop/shaft
with "galvanized zinc spray paint".   I have never seen this done and do
not know what effect it might have on the bronze prop (shouldn't be
negative but I'm not sure).  There is never any marine growth on my
sacrificial zinc(s).

Has anyone heard of this?  Anyone with any experience with this paint on
props?

Bob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.




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Re: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm

[dwight veinot]

Bob

You seem to have a possible answer that you've tested on your boat and at
your mooring: just make your prop and shaft black with Micron 66...some will
come off the blade faces and tips as a result of cavitation but the shaft
and hub should fair better...worth a try if you don't mind painting that
shiny prop of yours...no primer, just Micron 66

Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Abbott
Sent: January 7, 2013 4:50 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Eric Frank
Subject: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm

Eric:
I used Micron 66 this season and I think the paint is 
incredible.after 5 months in the water, it didn't need a 
cleaning/pressure wash at hauloutno growth of any kind.

My prop/shaft is another story..I have tried applying a marine grade 
grease, last year I applied lanolin after heating the metal with a heat 
gun,the stuff just melted onto the prop and resulted in a thick 
coat.no sign of the lanolin on haulout, but a harvest of mussels.
The mussels attach to the SS shaft so hard that where the shaft enter to 
hull, the mussels gouge out the getcoat.every Spring I fill with 
West System resin, every Fall the mussels remove it.

I am betting the galvanized zinc spray paint at the hardware store is 
the same as the Petit product.if it won't damage the prop in any 
way, it might be worth a try.

Getting Rich Knowles to suspend his prayer meetings at the club asking 
for all the North West Arm mussels to attach to my prop might help as well.

Bob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax. N.S.






On 2013/01/07 4:09 PM, Eric Frank wrote:
> Bob,
>
> I have used the Petit product (Zinc Coat Barnacle Barrier)  for the last
couple of years here in Buzzard's Bay, MA with mixed results.  As others
report, I sanded the prop down to very clean bronze and then applied 3 coats
of the zinc paint from the spray can.  I did wait about 2 weeks after
painting before launching.  In the fall, the prop was covered with
barnacles.  So last spring I scrapped off all the barnacles but did not sand
off all the old paint and then did a triple spray again, but only a few days
before launch.  On top of that I smeared a very viscous lanolin, based on
the discussions on the list, and smoothed it out with a hot air gun. This
fall, the boat emerged from a full season in the water with virtually no
barnacles on the prop or the hull (which was painted with a new layer of
Micron 66).  So I attributed the difference to the lanolin, which seemed to
be still present on the prop, as it feels slightly greasy.  True, the engine
is hardly used at all because we
 are
>   on a mooring and usually don't use it much at all unless the wind dies.
>
> So it is interesting that Danny, only a few miles away, saw no growth with
just a bronze prop. - no paint or grease.  It seems very difficult to
generalize from the very different reports.
>
> Eric
> Eric Frank
> Cat's Paw
> C&C 35 Mk II
> Mattapoisett, MA
>
>> Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2013 14:54:48 -0400
>> From: Robert Abbott 
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm
>> Message-ID: <50eb19f8.5080...@eastlink.ca>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> The topic is back.last year, in an attempt to inhibit the growth of
>> mussels on the prop and prop shaft, I coated them with lanolin.was
>> told or read this would help.  When the boat was hauled in October, the
>> prop/shaft were completely encased in mussels, again.  The growth has a
>> noticeable, negative effect on the performance of the prop later in the
>> season e.g.  higher RPM's to attain same cruising speed when motoring.
>> After trying a few so called 'remedies', I am now convinced the only
>> effective way to keep the prop free of marine growth (mussels on mine)
>> is to dive a few times a season and physically remove them.  Maybe I
>> need a few pounds of lead, my safety harness on and tethered to the
>> toerail and a few feet of hose the top end tied to the pushpit and me
>> breathing from the bottom end.
>>
>> However, before I comtemplated something like that, there is one more
>> 'remedy' I have heard/read about..it involves coating the prop/shaft
>> with "galvanized zinc spray paint".   I have never seen this done and do
>> not know what effect it might have on the bronze prop (shouldn't be
>> negative but I'm not sure).  There is never any marine growth on my
>> sacrificial zinc(s).
>>
>> Has anyone heard of this?  Anyone with any experience with this paint on
>> props?
>>
>> Bob Abbott
>> AZURA
>> C&C 32 - 84
>> Halifax, N.S.
>
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Re: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm

[Rich Knowles]

Ok. Bob. We'll hold off until April. 

Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax

On 2013-01-07, at 16:49, Robert Abbott  wrote:

> Getting Rich Knowles to suspend his prayer meetings at the club asking for 
> all the North West Arm mussels to attach to my prop might help as well.
> 
> Bob Abbott

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Re: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm

[djhaug...@juno.com]

My boat is moored in the Westport River and there is a good current running 
through there.  It runs at about 3 knots at times.

Maybe the movement of the water kept them off??

Danny

P.S. I like mussels with some fava beans and a nice chianti


-- Original Message --
From: Eric Frank 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm
Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2013 15:09:37 -0500

Bob,

I have used the Petit product (Zinc Coat Barnacle Barrier)  for the last couple 
of years here in Buzzard's Bay, MA with mixed results.  As others report, I 
sanded the prop down to very clean bronze and then applied 3 coats of the zinc 
paint from the spray can.  I did wait about 2 weeks after painting before 
launching.  In the fall, the prop was covered with barnacles.  So last spring I 
scrapped off all the barnacles but did not sand off all the old paint and then 
did a triple spray again, but only a few days before launch.  On top of that I 
smeared a very viscous lanolin, based on the discussions on the list, and 
smoothed it out with a hot air gun. This fall, the boat emerged from a full 
season in the water with virtually no barnacles on the prop or the hull (which 
was painted with a new layer of Micron 66).  So I attributed the difference to 
the lanolin, which seemed to be still present on the prop, as it feels slightly 
greasy.  True, the engine is hardly used at all because we are on a mooring and 
usually don't use it much at all unless the wind dies.

So it is interesting that Danny, only a few miles away, saw no growth with just 
a bronze prop. - no paint or grease.  It seems very difficult to generalize 
from the very different reports.

Eric
Eric Frank
Cat's Paw
C&C 35 Mk II
Mattapoisett, MA

> Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2013 14:54:48 -0400
> From: Robert Abbott 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm
> Message-ID: <50eb19f8.5080...@eastlink.ca>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> The topic is back.last year, in an attempt to inhibit the growth of 
> mussels on the prop and prop shaft, I coated them with lanolin.was 
> told or read this would help.  When the boat was hauled in October, the 
> prop/shaft were completely encased in mussels, again.  The growth has a 
> noticeable, negative effect on the performance of the prop later in the 
> season e.g.  higher RPM's to attain same cruising speed when motoring.  
> After trying a few so called 'remedies', I am now convinced the only 
> effective way to keep the prop free of marine growth (mussels on mine) 
> is to dive a few times a season and physically remove them.  Maybe I 
> need a few pounds of lead, my safety harness on and tethered to the 
> toerail and a few feet of hose the top end tied to the pushpit and me 
> breathing from the bottom end.
> 
> However, before I comtemplated something like that, there is one more 
> 'remedy' I have heard/read about..it involves coating the prop/shaft 
> with "galvanized zinc spray paint".   I have never seen this done and do 
> not know what effect it might have on the bronze prop (shouldn't be 
> negative but I'm not sure).  There is never any marine growth on my 
> sacrificial zinc(s).
> 
> Has anyone heard of this?  Anyone with any experience with this paint on 
> props?
> 
> Bob Abbott
> AZURA
> C&C 32 - 84
> Halifax, N.S.




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Re: Stus-List C&C 29 -2 keel drawings

[HONEYSAIL]

Hello Bob
 
Do you have any drawing for the C&C 39 (1974) happy to pay for your  time & 
effort. Thanks
 
Jack Fitzgerald
C&C 39 # 390069 (1974)
 
 
In a message dated 1/7/2013 12:27:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
bobhick...@rogers.com writes:

 
The number of requests for the drawings has been  surprising. 
So far, I have forwarded the drawings to 9  owners. 
In return for the drawings, I have been asking for details  / contact info 
on the boats. 
So far, I have 21 boats on the list with the highest hull  number being 702 
– built in August 1985. 
As the Rhode Island plant was closed in November 1985, I am  assuming that 
this must be near the end of the production run for the  29-2. 
Does anyone know if production on the 29-2 was moved to the  Niagara plant 
when Rhode Island closed? 
I will attempt to compile a list of 29-2’s if any owners  want to send the 
information to _bobhickson@rogers.com_ (mailto:bobhick...@rogers.com)  
Best  regards, 
Bob Hickson, P.  Eng, RHI, CEA 
C&C 29-2  Flying Colours 
(416)  919-2297 
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Re: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm

[Martin DeYoung]

I suspect that the broad difference in prop anti fouling coating performance 
relates to the way sea creatures attach to the prop.

Here in the PNW, at Shilshole Bay Marina, barnacles are the problem not 
mussels.  Even when the zinc paint is wearing out a light brush will remove any 
that remain after applying power to the prop for a few minutes.

The zinc paint seems to kill the barnacles or at least prevent them from 
attaching to the coating.

IIRC mussels attach with a self created fiber.  Barnacles seem to grow onto the 
substrate with a softer foot or base which may be easier to poison.

What do the local power generation and utilities use to keep intake and 
discharges clear?

Martin
Calypso
1970 C&C 43
Seattle

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 10:55 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm

The topic is back.last year, in an attempt to inhibit the growth of 
mussels on the prop and prop shaft, I coated them with lanolin.was 
told or read this would help.  When the boat was hauled in October, the 
prop/shaft were completely encased in mussels, again.  The growth has a 
noticeable, negative effect on the performance of the prop later in the 
season e.g.  higher RPM's to attain same cruising speed when motoring.  
After trying a few so called 'remedies', I am now convinced the only 
effective way to keep the prop free of marine growth (mussels on mine) 
is to dive a few times a season and physically remove them.  Maybe I 
need a few pounds of lead, my safety harness on and tethered to the 
toerail and a few feet of hose the top end tied to the pushpit and me 
breathing from the bottom end.

However, before I comtemplated something like that, there is one more 
'remedy' I have heard/read about..it involves coating the prop/shaft 
with "galvanized zinc spray paint".   I have never seen this done and do 
not know what effect it might have on the bronze prop (shouldn't be 
negative but I'm not sure).  There is never any marine growth on my 
sacrificial zinc(s).

Has anyone heard of this?  Anyone with any experience with this paint on 
props?

Bob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


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Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm

[Robert Abbott]

Dwight:
This sounds so logical, why is it that we attempt so many different ways 
and buy different products to do what antifouling paint does.there 
was nothing growing on the Micron 66  daaa!   I'd gladly give up my 
shiny prop for a 'marine growth free' prop.Then this problem is 
solved..antifouling paint on the prop/shaft next season.


And to listers still following this thread, late last season, Dwight was 
motoring AZURA back to the mooring and felt something was wrong.he 
said he didn't seem to have the boat speed he should have had with the 
RPM's.  He was right.the mussel farm again effecting the performance 
of the prop.


And to Bill and Joe, I was kidding about that underwater breathing 
apparatusthought a little levity was in order..although I take 
seriously Rich's prayer meetings.  I became a certified diver 40 years 
ago, and am comfortable underwater, but can't hold my breath as long as 
I used to.


Bob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.




On 2013/01/07 5:15 PM, dwight veinot wrote:

Bob

You seem to have a possible answer that you've tested on your boat and at
your mooring: just make your prop and shaft black with Micron 66...some will
come off the blade faces and tips as a result of cavitation but the shaft
and hub should fair better...worth a try if you don't mind painting that
shiny prop of yours...no primer, just Micron 66

Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Abbott
Sent: January 7, 2013 4:50 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Eric Frank
Subject: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm

Eric:
I used Micron 66 this season and I think the paint is
incredible.after 5 months in the water, it didn't need a
cleaning/pressure wash at hauloutno growth of any kind.

My prop/shaft is another story..I have tried applying a marine grade
grease, last year I applied lanolin after heating the metal with a heat
gun,the stuff just melted onto the prop and resulted in a thick
coat.no sign of the lanolin on haulout, but a harvest of mussels.
The mussels attach to the SS shaft so hard that where the shaft enter to
hull, the mussels gouge out the getcoat.every Spring I fill with
West System resin, every Fall the mussels remove it.

I am betting the galvanized zinc spray paint at the hardware store is
the same as the Petit product.if it won't damage the prop in any
way, it might be worth a try.

Getting Rich Knowles to suspend his prayer meetings at the club asking
for all the North West Arm mussels to attach to my prop might help as well.

Bob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax. N.S.






On 2013/01/07 4:09 PM, Eric Frank wrote:

Bob,

I have used the Petit product (Zinc Coat Barnacle Barrier)  for the last

couple of years here in Buzzard's Bay, MA with mixed results.  As others
report, I sanded the prop down to very clean bronze and then applied 3 coats
of the zinc paint from the spray can.  I did wait about 2 weeks after
painting before launching.  In the fall, the prop was covered with
barnacles.  So last spring I scrapped off all the barnacles but did not sand
off all the old paint and then did a triple spray again, but only a few days
before launch.  On top of that I smeared a very viscous lanolin, based on
the discussions on the list, and smoothed it out with a hot air gun. This
fall, the boat emerged from a full season in the water with virtually no
barnacles on the prop or the hull (which was painted with a new layer of
Micron 66).  So I attributed the difference to the lanolin, which seemed to
be still present on the prop, as it feels slightly greasy.  True, the engine
is hardly used at all because we
  are

   on a mooring and usually don't use it much at all unless the wind dies.

So it is interesting that Danny, only a few miles away, saw no growth with

just a bronze prop. - no paint or grease.  It seems very difficult to
generalize from the very different reports.

Eric
Eric Frank
Cat's Paw
C&C 35 Mk II
Mattapoisett, MA


Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2013 14:54:48 -0400
From: Robert Abbott 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm
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The topic is back.last year, in an attempt to inhibit the growth of
mussels on the prop and prop shaft, I coated them with lanolin.was
told or read this would help.  When the boat was hauled in October, the
prop/shaft were completely encased in mussels, again.  The growth has a
noticeable, negative effect on the performance of the prop later in the
season e.g.  higher RPM's to attain same cruising speed when motoring.
After trying a few so called 'remedies', I am now convinced the only
effective way to keep the prop free of marine growth (mussels on mine)
is to dive a few times a season and physically remove them.  Maybe I
need a few pounds of lead, my safety harn

Re: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm

[Chuck S]

Martin, 
>From this list, I'm convinced the prop and shaft should be painted as you 
>explained. What grit paper do you use on the prop and shaft? 


Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 C&C 34R 
Atlantic City, NJ 
- Original Message -
From: "Martin DeYoung"  
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 2:16:02 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm 

Bob, 

I have used Pettit's Zinc Coat Barnacle Barrier #1792 (locally $16 to $17 per 
rattle can) for more than 10 years. I have been very satisfied with the 
results. 

Here in the Puget Sound area (cold dark salt water) it keeps growth off the 
prop and shaft for up to two years. One can covers a three bladed MAX prop, the 
SS strut, and the SS shaft. Calypso stays in the water year round. After about 
18 months tiny barnacles will begin to appear. 

Application is easy. I give the prop, strut, and shaft a light sanding, clean 
with solvent, then apply several coats with (at >50F) 1 ½ hours drying time 
between coats. 

Martin 
Calypso 
1970 C&C 43 
Seattle 

-Original Message- 
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert 
Abbott 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 10:55 AM 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm 

The topic is back.last year, in an attempt to inhibit the growth of 
mussels on the prop and prop shaft, I coated them with lanolin.was 
told or read this would help. When the boat was hauled in October, the 
prop/shaft were completely encased in mussels, again. The growth has a 
noticeable, negative effect on the performance of the prop later in the 
season e.g. higher RPM's to attain same cruising speed when motoring. 
After trying a few so called 'remedies', I am now convinced the only 
effective way to keep the prop free of marine growth (mussels on mine) 
is to dive a few times a season and physically remove them. Maybe I 
need a few pounds of lead, my safety harness on and tethered to the 
toerail and a few feet of hose the top end tied to the pushpit and me 
breathing from the bottom end. 

However, before I comtemplated something like that, there is one more 
'remedy' I have heard/read about..it involves coating the prop/shaft 
with "galvanized zinc spray paint". I have never seen this done and do 
not know what effect it might have on the bronze prop (shouldn't be 
negative but I'm not sure). There is never any marine growth on my 
sacrificial zinc(s). 

Has anyone heard of this? Anyone with any experience with this paint on 
props? 

Bob Abbott 
AZURA 
C&C 32 - 84 
Halifax, N.S. 


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Re: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm

[Martin DeYoung]

Chuck,

I have used 180 or 220 and sometimes bronze wool depending on the level of 
crud.  I wipe the sanded prop down with paint thinner or acetone depending what 
is on hand.  The acetone will remove more old zinc paint than the thinner.

The MAX props have zerk fittings that force grease out of all the joints so I 
paint first.  One rattle can will put three coats on a 17 x 21 three blade 
prop, the SS strut and the prop shaft.  I put it on thick and it will run so 
wear old shoes.  I sand the zinc paint off the areas that the sacrificial 
anodes contact the prop and shaft.

The zinc paint has doubled anode life for the first year, less so the second as 
it wears off.

Martin
Calypso
1970 C&C 43
Seattle

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck S
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 6:23 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm

Martin,
>From this list, I'm convinced the prop and shaft should be painted as you 
>explained.  What grit paper do you use on the prop and shaft?
Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Atlantic City, NJ

From: "Martin DeYoung" 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 2:16:02 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm

Bob,

I have used Pettit's Zinc Coat Barnacle Barrier #1792 (locally $16 to $17 per 
rattle can) for more than 10 years.  I have been very satisfied with the 
results.

Here in the Puget Sound area (cold dark salt water) it keeps growth off the 
prop and shaft for up to two years.  One can covers a three bladed MAX prop, 
the SS strut, and the SS shaft.  Calypso stays in the water year round.  After 
about 18 months tiny barnacles will begin to appear.

Application is easy.  I give the prop, strut, and shaft a light sanding, clean 
with solvent, then apply several coats with (at >50F) 1 ½ hours drying time 
between coats.

Martin
Calypso
1970 C&C 43
Seattle

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert Abbott
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 10:55 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm

The topic is back.last year, in an attempt to inhibit the growth of
mussels on the prop and prop shaft, I coated them with lanolin.was
told or read this would help.  When the boat was hauled in October, the
prop/shaft were completely encased in mussels, again.  The growth has a
noticeable, negative effect on the performance of the prop later in the
season e.g.  higher RPM's to attain same cruising speed when motoring.
After trying a few so called 'remedies', I am now convinced the only
effective way to keep the prop free of marine growth (mussels on mine)
is to dive a few times a season and physically remove them.  Maybe I
need a few pounds of lead, my safety harness on and tethered to the
toerail and a few feet of hose the top end tied to the pushpit and me
breathing from the bottom end.

However, before I comtemplated something like that, there is one more
'remedy' I have heard/read about..it involves coating the prop/shaft
with "galvanized zinc spray paint".   I have never seen this done and do
not know what effect it might have on the bronze prop (shouldn't be
negative but I'm not sure).  There is never any marine growth on my
sacrificial zinc(s).

Has anyone heard of this?  Anyone with any experience with this paint on
props?

Bob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


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Re: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm

[Chuck S]

Hose won't work. You need a compressor. I bought a Hookah and one of us dives 
on the boat a day before each race. Speedwise, the $800 Hookah is worth more 
than 10 times a $3000 sail when racing, because it improves boat speed for all 
sails on all points. I've lent it out to friends to use, but draw the line and 
don't dive on other's boats. With it, I can scrub the entire hull in 30 to 45 
minutes. It's a perfect item for joint ownership . 


Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 C&C 34R 
Atlantic City, NJ 
- Original Message -
From: "Robert Abbott"  
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 1:54:48 PM 
Subject: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm 

The topic is back.last year, in an attempt to inhibit the growth of 
mussels on the prop and prop shaft, I coated them with lanolin.was 
told or read this would help. When the boat was hauled in October, the 
prop/shaft were completely encased in mussels, again. The growth has a 
noticeable, negative effect on the performance of the prop later in the 
season e.g. higher RPM's to attain same cruising speed when motoring. 
After trying a few so called 'remedies', I am now convinced the only 
effective way to keep the prop free of marine growth (mussels on mine) 
is to dive a few times a season and physically remove them. Maybe I 
need a few pounds of lead, my safety harness on and tethered to the 
toerail and a few feet of hose the top end tied to the pushpit and me 
breathing from the bottom end. 

However, before I comtemplated something like that, there is one more 
'remedy' I have heard/read about..it involves coating the prop/shaft 
with "galvanized zinc spray paint". I have never seen this done and do 
not know what effect it might have on the bronze prop (shouldn't be 
negative but I'm not sure). There is never any marine growth on my 
sacrificial zinc(s). 

Has anyone heard of this? Anyone with any experience with this paint on 
props? 

Bob Abbott 
AZURA 
C&C 32 - 84 
Halifax, N.S. 


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Re: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm

[Bob Moriarty]

Some dock neighbors have success with
http://www.dolphinboatlifts.com/
Seems to work on barnacles, slime and mussels.
No PHRF hit, either.
I wonder if some sort of bubbler setup would discourage marine growth.

Bob M
Ox 33-1
Jax, FL
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Re: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm

[Dennis C.]

Whatever happened to the research on using capsaicin in prop paints?

We don't have a mussel growth problem in Louisiana.  If we did, our answer 
would be mussels etoufee, mussels D'Iberville, mussels jambalaya.


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Re: Stus-List Prop Mussel Farm

[Bob Moriarty]

Or, mussels d'cuivré
:-)

On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Dennis C.  wrote:

> Whatever happened to the research on using capsaicin in prop paints?
>
> We don't have a mussel growth problem in Louisiana.  If we did, our answer
> would be mussels etoufee, mussels D'Iberville, mussels jambalaya.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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