[Cloud] toolforge down?

2021-11-02 Thread Roy Smith
https://spi-tools.toolforge.org/spi/  and 
 https://xtools.wmflabs.org/  are loading 
extremely slowly.  Actually, on both, it looks like you eventually get the 
HTML, but none of the statics (CSS, images, etc) load.

https://bullseye.toolforge.org/  isn't 
responding at all.

Makes me think there's something going on that's affecting all of toolforge.


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[Cloud] Re: toolforge down?

2021-11-02 Thread David Caro
Hi Roy,

We are currently having a network outage on cloud infra, specifically tools and 
different VPS projects might have issues
mounting NFS.

We are working on it, will update soon.

Thanks for the notice!

On 11/02 08:40, Roy Smith wrote:
> https://spi-tools.toolforge.org/spi/  
> and  https://xtools.wmflabs.org/  are loading 
> extremely slowly.  Actually, on both, it looks like you eventually get the 
> HTML, but none of the statics (CSS, images, etc) load.
> 
> https://bullseye.toolforge.org/  isn't 
> responding at all.
> 
> Makes me think there's something going on that's affecting all of toolforge.
> 
> 

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[Cloud] Re: toolforge down?

2021-11-02 Thread David Caro

The incident has been resolved, all the alerts will start clearing up shortly.

If you still see some issues, please ping us here or on IRC (#wikimedia-cloud 
on libera.chat).


Thanks for you patience!

On 11/02 13:43, David Caro wrote:
> Hi Roy,
> 
> We are currently having a network outage on cloud infra, specifically tools 
> and different VPS projects might have issues
> mounting NFS.
> 
> We are working on it, will update soon.
> 
> Thanks for the notice!
> 
> On 11/02 08:40, Roy Smith wrote:
> > https://spi-tools.toolforge.org/spi/  
> > and  https://xtools.wmflabs.org/  are loading 
> > extremely slowly.  Actually, on both, it looks like you eventually get the 
> > HTML, but none of the statics (CSS, images, etc) load.
> > 
> > https://bullseye.toolforge.org/  isn't 
> > responding at all.
> > 
> > Makes me think there's something going on that's affecting all of toolforge.
> > 
> > 
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[Cloud] [Cloud-announce] 2021-11-02: Cloud VPS network outage

2021-11-02 Thread Arturo Borrero Gonzalez

Hi,

Today 2021-11-02 we had a severe network outage on Cloud VPS and Toolforge.

Several network connections were affected from 11:40 UTC to 13:20 UTC (1h40m 
duration). As of this writing the problem has been corrected.


Detailed information can be seen in Phabricator:

  https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T294853

Sorry for the inconvenience.

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[Cloud] qsub waiting time on Toolforge

2021-11-02 Thread Anis Elebiary
Hi all,

I have a python script that creates a tsv for the redirect table. I submitted 
the job through qsub and it's been waiting for more than a day now. Is it 
normal for the waiting time to be this long ? And, if there's a better way to 
do the aforementioned task, please let me know. Thank you in advance.

Best,
Anis
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[Cloud] Re: qsub waiting time on Toolforge

2021-11-02 Thread John
I’ve not seen it delay that long ever (most I’ve ever seen is about a
minute) if you run qstat what shows up? Maybe you have too many running
jobs??



On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 1:31 PM Anis Elebiary  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have a python script that creates a tsv for the redirect table. I
> submitted the job through qsub and it's been waiting for more than a day
> now. Is it normal for the waiting time to be this long ? And, if there's a
> better way to do the aforementioned task, please let me know. Thank you in
> advance.
>
> Best,
> Anis
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[Cloud] Re: qsub waiting time on Toolforge

2021-11-02 Thread Taavi Väänänen

On 02/11/2021 19:30, Anis Elebiary wrote:
I have a python script that creates a tsv for the redirect table. I 
submitted the job through qsub and it's been waiting for more than a day 
now. Is it normal for the waiting time to be this long ? And, if there's 
a better way to do the aforementioned task, please let me know. Thank 
you in advance.
Hi, which tool is this about? Waiting times that long are not normal, 
but it's impossible to say anything about its causes without looking at 
the specific job.


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[Cloud] Re: qsub waiting time on Toolforge

2021-11-02 Thread Anis Elebiary
Thank you for your response, John. It just says "qw" and it stays that way. I 
haven't assigned additional memory to be used or anything.

From: John 
Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 1:49 PM
To: Wikimedia Cloud Services general discussion and support 

Subject: [Cloud] Re: qsub waiting time on Toolforge

I’ve not seen it delay that long ever (most I’ve ever seen is about a minute) 
if you run qstat what shows up? Maybe you have too many running jobs??



On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 1:31 PM Anis Elebiary 
mailto:a...@usf.edu>> wrote:
Hi all,

I have a python script that creates a tsv for the redirect table. I submitted 
the job through qsub and it's been waiting for more than a day now. Is it 
normal for the waiting time to be this long ? And, if there's a better way to 
do the aforementioned task, please let me know. Thank you in advance.

Best,
Anis
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[Cloud] Re: qsub waiting time on Toolforge

2021-11-02 Thread John
How many other jobs are listed as being active?

On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 2:10 PM Anis Elebiary  wrote:

> Thank you for your response, John. It just says "qw" and it stays that
> way. I haven't assigned additional memory to be used or anything.
> --
> *From:* John 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 2, 2021 1:49 PM
> *To:* Wikimedia Cloud Services general discussion and support <
> cloud@lists.wikimedia.org>
> *Subject:* [Cloud] Re: qsub waiting time on Toolforge
>
> I’ve not seen it delay that long ever (most I’ve ever seen is about a
> minute) if you run qstat what shows up? Maybe you have too many running
> jobs??
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 1:31 PM Anis Elebiary  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have a python script that creates a tsv for the redirect table. I
> submitted the job through qsub and it's been waiting for more than a day
> now. Is it normal for the waiting time to be this long ? And, if there's a
> better way to do the aforementioned task, please let me know. Thank you in
> advance.
>
> Best,
> Anis
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[Cloud] Re: qsub waiting time on Toolforge

2021-11-02 Thread Anis Elebiary
None, it is the only job I am running .

From: John 
Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 2:11 PM
To: Wikimedia Cloud Services general discussion and support 

Subject: [Cloud] Re: qsub waiting time on Toolforge

How many other jobs are listed as being active?

On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 2:10 PM Anis Elebiary 
mailto:a...@usf.edu>> wrote:
Thank you for your response, John. It just says "qw" and it stays that way. I 
haven't assigned additional memory to be used or anything.

From: John mailto:phoenixoverr...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 1:49 PM
To: Wikimedia Cloud Services general discussion and support 
mailto:cloud@lists.wikimedia.org>>
Subject: [Cloud] Re: qsub waiting time on Toolforge

I’ve not seen it delay that long ever (most I’ve ever seen is about a minute) 
if you run qstat what shows up? Maybe you have too many running jobs??



On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 1:31 PM Anis Elebiary 
mailto:a...@usf.edu>> wrote:
Hi all,

I have a python script that creates a tsv for the redirect table. I submitted 
the job through qsub and it's been waiting for more than a day now. Is it 
normal for the waiting time to be this long ? And, if there's a better way to 
do the aforementioned task, please let me know. Thank you in advance.

Best,
Anis
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[Cloud] Re: qsub waiting time on Toolforge

2021-11-02 Thread AntiCompositeNumber
What's the name of the tool account?

On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 2:13 PM Anis Elebiary  wrote:
>
> None, it is the only job I am running .
> 
> From: John 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 2:11 PM
> To: Wikimedia Cloud Services general discussion and support 
> 
> Subject: [Cloud] Re: qsub waiting time on Toolforge
>
> How many other jobs are listed as being active?
>
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 2:10 PM Anis Elebiary  wrote:
>
> Thank you for your response, John. It just says "qw" and it stays that way. I 
> haven't assigned additional memory to be used or anything.
> 
> From: John 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 1:49 PM
> To: Wikimedia Cloud Services general discussion and support 
> 
> Subject: [Cloud] Re: qsub waiting time on Toolforge
>
> I’ve not seen it delay that long ever (most I’ve ever seen is about a minute) 
> if you run qstat what shows up? Maybe you have too many running jobs??
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 1:31 PM Anis Elebiary  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have a python script that creates a tsv for the redirect table. I submitted 
> the job through qsub and it's been waiting for more than a day now. Is it 
> normal for the waiting time to be this long ? And, if there's a better way to 
> do the aforementioned task, please let me know. Thank you in advance.
>
> Best,
> Anis
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[Cloud] Re: qsub waiting time on Toolforge

2021-11-02 Thread Anis Elebiary
I am not running the job from within my tool account. I have the script in my 
home directory and submitting it from there. Do I have to become my tool first 
and then do it from there ? my tool account is 'aemisinfo' and my login 
username is 'anis'.

Thank you.

From: AntiCompositeNumber 
Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 2:13 PM
To: Wikimedia Cloud Services general discussion and support 

Subject: [Cloud] Re: qsub waiting time on Toolforge

What's the name of the tool account?

On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 2:13 PM Anis Elebiary  wrote:
>
> None, it is the only job I am running .
> 
> From: John 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 2:11 PM
> To: Wikimedia Cloud Services general discussion and support 
> 
> Subject: [Cloud] Re: qsub waiting time on Toolforge
>
> How many other jobs are listed as being active?
>
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 2:10 PM Anis Elebiary  wrote:
>
> Thank you for your response, John. It just says "qw" and it stays that way. I 
> haven't assigned additional memory to be used or anything.
> 
> From: John 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 1:49 PM
> To: Wikimedia Cloud Services general discussion and support 
> 
> Subject: [Cloud] Re: qsub waiting time on Toolforge
>
> I’ve not seen it delay that long ever (most I’ve ever seen is about a minute) 
> if you run qstat what shows up? Maybe you have too many running jobs??
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 1:31 PM Anis Elebiary  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have a python script that creates a tsv for the redirect table. I submitted 
> the job through qsub and it's been waiting for more than a day now. Is it 
> normal for the waiting time to be this long ? And, if there's a better way to 
> do the aforementioned task, please let me know. Thank you in advance.
>
> Best,
> Anis
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[Cloud] Re: qsub waiting time on Toolforge

2021-11-02 Thread Anis Elebiary
I ran it from within the tool account and it worked ! Thank you for your help

From: Anis Elebiary 
Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 2:23 PM
To: Wikimedia Cloud Services general discussion and support 

Subject: [Cloud] Re: qsub waiting time on Toolforge

I am not running the job from within my tool account. I have the script in my 
home directory and submitting it from there. Do I have to become my tool first 
and then do it from there ? my tool account is 'aemisinfo' and my login 
username is 'anis'.

Thank you.

From: AntiCompositeNumber 
Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 2:13 PM
To: Wikimedia Cloud Services general discussion and support 

Subject: [Cloud] Re: qsub waiting time on Toolforge

What's the name of the tool account?

On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 2:13 PM Anis Elebiary  wrote:
>
> None, it is the only job I am running .
> 
> From: John 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 2:11 PM
> To: Wikimedia Cloud Services general discussion and support 
> 
> Subject: [Cloud] Re: qsub waiting time on Toolforge
>
> How many other jobs are listed as being active?
>
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 2:10 PM Anis Elebiary  wrote:
>
> Thank you for your response, John. It just says "qw" and it stays that way. I 
> haven't assigned additional memory to be used or anything.
> 
> From: John 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 1:49 PM
> To: Wikimedia Cloud Services general discussion and support 
> 
> Subject: [Cloud] Re: qsub waiting time on Toolforge
>
> I’ve not seen it delay that long ever (most I’ve ever seen is about a minute) 
> if you run qstat what shows up? Maybe you have too many running jobs??
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 1:31 PM Anis Elebiary  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have a python script that creates a tsv for the redirect table. I submitted 
> the job through qsub and it's been waiting for more than a day now. Is it 
> normal for the waiting time to be this long ? And, if there's a better way to 
> do the aforementioned task, please let me know. Thank you in advance.
>
> Best,
> Anis
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