[clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

[crazy thinker]

Hi ClamAV Developers, ClamAV Users


I have refered ClamAV Docs but i could find any info to set up clamav in
Business
Environment. i have a small business office  where 50-75 employees are
working

Could anyone of you please help me in this?
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Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

[Dino Edwards]

What do you mean by that exactly? What features are you looking for?



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Subject: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

Hi ClamAV Developers, ClamAV Users


I have refered ClamAV Docs but i could find any info to set up clamav in 
Business Environment. i have a small business office  where 50-75 employees are 
working

Could anyone of you please help me in this?
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Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

[Al Varnell]

To avoid having each workstation having to update definitions over the internet 
you will probably want to setup a Private Local Mirror. See 
.

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On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 03:28 AM, crazy thinker wrote:
> 
> Hi ClamAV Developers, ClamAV Users
> 
> 
> I have refered ClamAV Docs but i could find any info to set up clamav in
> Business
> Environment. i have a small business office  where 50-75 employees are
> working
> 
> Could anyone of you please help me in this?


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Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

[crazy thinker]

   -
   - I am looking for  below features in Enterprise Environment
   -
   - *Antivirus/Antispyware*
   - *Desktop Firewall*
   - *Intrusion Prevention*
   - *Browser Protection*
   - *Antivirus for Mac & Linux*
   - *Device & Application Control*
   - *Virtualization Features*
   - *Centralized and Granular Policy Management*
   -

   -


On 18 April 2017 at 16:01, Dino Edwards 
wrote:

> What do you mean by that exactly? What features are you looking for?
>
>
>
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> Behalf Of crazy thinker
> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 6:29 AM
> To: ClamAV users ML ; ClamAV Development <
> clamav-de...@lists.clamav.net>
> Subject: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise
>
> Hi ClamAV Developers, ClamAV Users
>
>
> I have refered ClamAV Docs but i could find any info to set up clamav in
> Business Environment. i have a small business office  where 50-75 employees
> are working
>
> Could anyone of you please help me in this?
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Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

[Al Varnell]

As we've discussed before, ClamAV provides Anti-Malware protection across 
Apple, Windows and Linux hardware. You will have to look elsewhere for all 
those other features you require.

-Al-

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 03:44 AM, crazy thinker wrote:
> 
>   -
>   - I am looking for  below features in Enterprise Environment
>   -
>   - *Antivirus/Antispyware*
>   - *Desktop Firewall*
>   - *Intrusion Prevention*
>   - *Browser Protection*
>   - *Antivirus for Mac & Linux*
>   - *Device & Application Control*
>   - *Virtualization Features*
>   - *Centralized and Granular Policy Management*
>   -
> On 18 April 2017 at 16:01, Dino Edwards wrote:
>> What do you mean by that exactly? What features are you looking for?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: clamav-users [mailto:clamav-users-boun...@lists.clamav.net] On
>> Behalf Of crazy thinker
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 6:29 AM
>> To: ClamAV users ML ; ClamAV Development <
>> clamav-de...@lists.clamav.net>
>> Subject: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise
>> 
>> Hi ClamAV Developers, ClamAV Users
>> 
>> 
>> I have refered ClamAV Docs but i could find any info to set up clamav in
>> Business Environment. i have a small business office  where 50-75 employees
>> are working
>> 
>> Could anyone of you please help me in this?


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Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

[Dino Edwards]

If you are looking for all these features you are going to have to go with a 
commercial offering. For example, Eset is decent lightweight and reasonably 
priced. Their management tools are very good also.

https://www.eset.com/us/business/



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Received: Tuesday, 18 Apr 2017, 6:44AM
To: ClamAV users ML [clamav-users@lists.clamav.net]
Subject: Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

   -
   - I am looking for  below features in Enterprise Environment
   -
   - *Antivirus/Antispyware*
   - *Desktop Firewall*
   - *Intrusion Prevention*
   - *Browser Protection*
   - *Antivirus for Mac & Linux*
   - *Device & Application Control*
   - *Virtualization Features*
   - *Centralized and Granular Policy Management*
   -

   -


On 18 April 2017 at 16:01, Dino Edwards 
wrote:

> What do you mean by that exactly? What features are you looking for?
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: clamav-users [mailto:clamav-users-boun...@lists.clamav.net] On
> Behalf Of crazy thinker
> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 6:29 AM
> To: ClamAV users ML ; ClamAV Development <
> clamav-de...@lists.clamav.net>
> Subject: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise
>
> Hi ClamAV Developers, ClamAV Users
>
>
> I have refered ClamAV Docs but i could find any info to set up clamav in
> Business Environment. i have a small business office  where 50-75 employees
> are working
>
> Could anyone of you please help me in this?
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Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

[Reindl Harald]

Am 18.04.2017 um 12:44 schrieb crazy thinker:

- I am looking for  below features in Enterprise Environment
-
- *Antivirus/Antispyware*
- *Desktop Firewall*
- *Intrusion Prevention*
- *Browser Protection*
- *Antivirus for Mac & Linux*
- *Device & Application Control*
- *Virtualization Features*
- *Centralized and Granular Policy Management*


no - ClamAV is just a malwarescanner based on heuristiks and signatures 
and more or less a framework for exactly that tasks which can be 
included in mailservers via milter/clamd or whatever can talk to clamd


but it is not and hopefully never will be such a ratware as you describe 
above which in the past years brought so many problems and security 
issues on otherwise secured OS installations that i go so far and call 
all that "internet security" packages itself as malware



On 18 April 2017 at 16:01, Dino Edwards 
wrote:


What do you mean by that exactly? What features are you looking for?



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Behalf Of crazy thinker
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 6:29 AM
To: ClamAV users ML ; ClamAV Development <
clamav-de...@lists.clamav.net>
Subject: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

Hi ClamAV Developers, ClamAV Users


I have refered ClamAV Docs but i could find any info to set up clamav in
Business Environment. i have a small business office  where 50-75 employees
are working

Could anyone of you please help me in this?


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Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

[G.W. Haywood]

Hi there,

On Tue, 18 Apr 2017, crazy thinker wrote:


 - I am looking for  below features in Enterprise Environment
 -
 - *Antivirus/Antispyware*
 - *Desktop Firewall*
 - *Intrusion Prevention*
 - *Browser Protection*
 - *Antivirus for Mac & Linux*
 - *Device & Application Control*
 - *Virtualization Features*
 - *Centralized and Granular Policy Management*


The more questions you ask on this and the development list, the more
painfully obvious it becomes to me that you have no idea what you are
talking about.  The list which you have provided above is garbage; if
you took that to a commercial supplier they would probably fall about
laughing after they have sold you a lot of useless junk and shown you
out of the door.

The best thing you can do is get yourself some good training, so that
you will become capable of making rational decisions based on sound
(and not crazy) thinking.  You should expect the training, if pursued
full-time, to take at least a couple of years to get you to the point
where you at least know what a firewall does.  To know how properly to
configure one would, if you were no more than an average pupil in the
first course, probably take a couple more years.  If this sounds a bit
like a batchelor's degree in computer science, that's not far wrong.

The next best thing would be to employ someone competent, but with
your current level of understanding I have no idea how you are going
to be able to judge the competence of a prospective employee.

To give you a rough idea of what level of skill you should be looking
for, I would not allow someone with a new computer science degree to
make unsupervised configuration changes to computer defences until he
or she had worked for me for at least a few months - probably more
like a couple of years - so that I could assess his/her capabilities.
I managed to get a first class honours degree in engineering in 1976,
I've been working with computers for over forty years, and I'm STILL
learning new, interesting and sneaky tricks which could easily eat my
lunch if I weren't careful.  It's a jungle out there, it really is.

If you plan to risk the livelihoods of employees on your own present
computer skills, then I'd have to say I think that is irresponsible,
and with the present threat levels simply begging for trouble.

--

73,
Ged.
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Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

[Dino Edwards]

Maybe give him the benefit of the doubt, although I have to admit his questions 
are suspect at best. Most of the requirements that he's looking for would 
certainly be checked off by a commercial AV vendor (not really sure what 
browser protection means) but most of it should.

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G.W. Haywood
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 4:31 PM
To: clamav-users@lists.clamav.net
Subject: Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

Hi there,

On Tue, 18 Apr 2017, crazy thinker wrote:

>  - I am looking for  below features in Enterprise Environment
>  -
>  - *Antivirus/Antispyware*
>  - *Desktop Firewall*
>  - *Intrusion Prevention*
>  - *Browser Protection*
>  - *Antivirus for Mac & Linux*
>  - *Device & Application Control*
>  - *Virtualization Features*
>  - *Centralized and Granular Policy Management*

The more questions you ask on this and the development list, the more painfully 
obvious it becomes to me that you have no idea what you are talking about.  The 
list which you have provided above is garbage; if you took that to a commercial 
supplier they would probably fall about laughing after they have sold you a lot 
of useless junk and shown you out of the door.

The best thing you can do is get yourself some good training, so that you will 
become capable of making rational decisions based on sound (and not crazy) 
thinking.  You should expect the training, if pursued full-time, to take at 
least a couple of years to get you to the point where you at least know what a 
firewall does.  To know how properly to configure one would, if you were no 
more than an average pupil in the first course, probably take a couple more 
years.  If this sounds a bit like a batchelor's degree in computer science, 
that's not far wrong.

The next best thing would be to employ someone competent, but with your current 
level of understanding I have no idea how you are going to be able to judge the 
competence of a prospective employee.

To give you a rough idea of what level of skill you should be looking for, I 
would not allow someone with a new computer science degree to make unsupervised 
configuration changes to computer defences until he or she had worked for me 
for at least a few months - probably more like a couple of years - so that I 
could assess his/her capabilities.
I managed to get a first class honours degree in engineering in 1976, I've been 
working with computers for over forty years, and I'm STILL learning new, 
interesting and sneaky tricks which could easily eat my lunch if I weren't 
careful.  It's a jungle out there, it really is.

If you plan to risk the livelihoods of employees on your own present computer 
skills, then I'd have to say I think that is irresponsible, and with the 
present threat levels simply begging for trouble.

-- 

73,
Ged.
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Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

[crazy thinker]

@G.W Haywood..

it would be sounds good if you speak  in polite way.. evey one can bark on
others.. but that is not solution here. i hope you understand well

On 19 April 2017 at 02:00, G.W. Haywood  wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> On Tue, 18 Apr 2017, crazy thinker wrote:
>
>  - I am looking for  below features in Enterprise Environment
>>  -
>>  - *Antivirus/Antispyware*
>>  - *Desktop Firewall*
>>  - *Intrusion Prevention*
>>  - *Browser Protection*
>>  - *Antivirus for Mac & Linux*
>>  - *Device & Application Control*
>>  - *Virtualization Features*
>>  - *Centralized and Granular Policy Management*
>>
>
> The more questions you ask on this and the development list, the more
> painfully obvious it becomes to me that you have no idea what you are
> talking about.  The list which you have provided above is garbage; if
> you took that to a commercial supplier they would probably fall about
> laughing after they have sold you a lot of useless junk and shown you
> out of the door.
>
> The best thing you can do is get yourself some good training, so that
> you will become capable of making rational decisions based on sound
> (and not crazy) thinking.  You should expect the training, if pursued
> full-time, to take at least a couple of years to get you to the point
> where you at least know what a firewall does.  To know how properly to
> configure one would, if you were no more than an average pupil in the
> first course, probably take a couple more years.  If this sounds a bit
> like a batchelor's degree in computer science, that's not far wrong.
>
> The next best thing would be to employ someone competent, but with
> your current level of understanding I have no idea how you are going
> to be able to judge the competence of a prospective employee.
>
> To give you a rough idea of what level of skill you should be looking
> for, I would not allow someone with a new computer science degree to
> make unsupervised configuration changes to computer defences until he
> or she had worked for me for at least a few months - probably more
> like a couple of years - so that I could assess his/her capabilities.
> I managed to get a first class honours degree in engineering in 1976,
> I've been working with computers for over forty years, and I'm STILL
> learning new, interesting and sneaky tricks which could easily eat my
> lunch if I weren't careful.  It's a jungle out there, it really is.
>
> If you plan to risk the livelihoods of employees on your own present
> computer skills, then I'd have to say I think that is irresponsible,
> and with the present threat levels simply begging for trouble.
>
> --
>
> 73,
> Ged.
>
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Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

[Al Varnell]

Honestly, I don't see anything impolite about what Mr. Haywood had to say. 
Certainly seems to be great guidance from somebody that's been in the industry 
for over four decades. I believe you would be well served to take his advice 
seriously.

-Al-

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 10:16 PM, crazy thinker wrote:
> 
> @G.W Haywood..
> 
> it would be sounds good if you speak  in polite way.. evey one can bark on
> others.. but that is not solution here. i hope you understand well
> 
> On 19 April 2017 at 02:00, G.W. Haywood  wrote:
> 
>> Hi there,
>> 
>> On Tue, 18 Apr 2017, crazy thinker wrote:
>> 
>> - I am looking for  below features in Enterprise Environment
>>> -
>>> - *Antivirus/Antispyware*
>>> - *Desktop Firewall*
>>> - *Intrusion Prevention*
>>> - *Browser Protection*
>>> - *Antivirus for Mac & Linux*
>>> - *Device & Application Control*
>>> - *Virtualization Features*
>>> - *Centralized and Granular Policy Management*
>>> 
>> 
>> The more questions you ask on this and the development list, the more
>> painfully obvious it becomes to me that you have no idea what you are
>> talking about.  The list which you have provided above is garbage; if
>> you took that to a commercial supplier they would probably fall about
>> laughing after they have sold you a lot of useless junk and shown you
>> out of the door.
>> 
>> The best thing you can do is get yourself some good training, so that
>> you will become capable of making rational decisions based on sound
>> (and not crazy) thinking.  You should expect the training, if pursued
>> full-time, to take at least a couple of years to get you to the point
>> where you at least know what a firewall does.  To know how properly to
>> configure one would, if you were no more than an average pupil in the
>> first course, probably take a couple more years.  If this sounds a bit
>> like a batchelor's degree in computer science, that's not far wrong.
>> 
>> The next best thing would be to employ someone competent, but with
>> your current level of understanding I have no idea how you are going
>> to be able to judge the competence of a prospective employee.
>> 
>> To give you a rough idea of what level of skill you should be looking
>> for, I would not allow someone with a new computer science degree to
>> make unsupervised configuration changes to computer defences until he
>> or she had worked for me for at least a few months - probably more
>> like a couple of years - so that I could assess his/her capabilities.
>> I managed to get a first class honours degree in engineering in 1976,
>> I've been working with computers for over forty years, and I'm STILL
>> learning new, interesting and sneaky tricks which could easily eat my
>> lunch if I weren't careful.  It's a jungle out there, it really is.
>> 
>> If you plan to risk the livelihoods of employees on your own present
>> computer skills, then I'd have to say I think that is irresponsible,
>> and with the present threat levels simply begging for trouble.
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> 73,
>> Ged.


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