Re: [Clamav-users] OT: Re: please remove

2009-02-23 Thread Ian Eiloart


--On 20 February 2009 22:25:51 -0500 Gary L Burnore 
 wrote:

>
> Ok, someone's gotta say it, YOU are a fucking moron.  The info can be
> found at the bottom of every one of these posts,
>

No, it can't be found there. Although the link is there, it's not labelled. 
It could be a link to anything.


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Re: [Clamav-users] OT: Re: please remove

2009-02-23 Thread Ian Eiloart


--On 21 February 2009 23:08:45 +0800 Sysadmin  wrote:

>
> Thanks a lot for the url
> http://lists.clamav.net/mailman/listinfo/clamav-users !
> Ok, it took me some time to find out with which email address I had
> subscribed But I found it.

Now, Mailman has a feature which allows custom footers per-recipient. It 
allows you to personalise the unsubscribe link, in order to prevent this 
problem.

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Re: [Clamav-users] please remove - 27 emails and counting

2009-02-23 Thread Ian Eiloart


--On 21 February 2009 07:48:05 -0500 jef moskot  wrote:

>
> Either way, if the software can handle it, listing the sign-up address
> would be a nice feature.

It's Mailman, it can handle it. It does have some performance implications 
for the lists MTA, since it needs to generate a message for every 
recipient, instead of one per recipient domain (or, strictly, one per 
remote delivery site). The worst that can happen is that it takes a little 
longer to deliver the emails, but probably not that long. It helps if 
Mailman is suitably parallelised.


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Re: [Clamav-users] please remove - 27 emails and counting

2009-02-23 Thread Ian Eiloart


--On 21 February 2009 15:15:14 +0100 Francesco Peeters 
 wrote:

>
> Even if *you* do not remember, the list *does*, so looking at those same
> f*ing headers will tell you what exact address it was sent to... Just
> follow the "Received: from *** for ***" headers down to the last one
> before "clamav.net" starts showing up in the "for" part...

Those headers aren't added by the list, so they may not contain the 
information that you suggest. Besides which, we're way beyond ease of use 
here. And, please have some manners.

> *That* is the address you are looking for!...  It is THAT simple!
>
> So it's gotta be the last option you provided...



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[Clamav-users] FRESHCLAN: setting update time

2009-02-23 Thread Jerry
This is just a suggestion. I believe it is practical; although I have
been known to be wrong.

There has been an on going discussion regarding the crashing of clamd
when used with unofficial Clamav definition files. Personally, I am of
the opinion that a probable cause could be the collision of a secondary
script with the 'freshclam' daemon.

Using FreeBSD, I prefer to run 'freshclam' as a daemon, started via
a script in  "/usr/local/etc/rc.d". Unfortunately, at least as far as I
can tell, there is no way to tell freshclam when to run once started.
It simply runs every 'X' hours as set by the "Checks" variable in the
freshclam.conf file.

{IDEA ONE}

Having another setting that would allow specifying how many minutes
past the hour freshclam should run would prove to be a useful addition.
The say "HR_DELAY" would be off by default, thereby using the same
protocol as is presently in force. Setting the variable would allow
forcing the daemon to run at a specific time in relation to the "Check"
variable. This would then allow users to stagger the running time of
this daemon and any secondary script that is being used to supplement
the Clamav database.

{IDEA TWO}

Using another variable to indicate whether freshclam should run on odd
or even hours only. Unfortunately, this would not work for those who
have 'Check' set to '24'. Actually, I believe that is excessive anyway;
however, it is not my call.

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Re: [Clamav-users] FRESHCLAN: setting update time

2009-02-23 Thread Tomasz Kojm
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 07:52:39 -0500
Jerry  wrote:

> There has been an on going discussion regarding the crashing of clamd
> when used with unofficial Clamav definition files. Personally, I am of
> the opinion that a probable cause could be the collision of a secondary
> script with the 'freshclam' daemon.

Actually, the reason of crashes with unofficial signatures is still unknown
as we're not able to reproduce the problem.

> {IDEA ONE}
> 
> Having another setting that would allow specifying how many minutes
> past the hour freshclam should run would prove to be a useful addition.
> The say "HR_DELAY" would be off by default, thereby using the same
> protocol as is presently in force. Setting the variable would allow
> forcing the daemon to run at a specific time in relation to the "Check"
> variable. This would then allow users to stagger the running time of
> this daemon and any secondary script that is being used to supplement
> the Clamav database.

You can do it with cron; there's no point in reinventing the wheel and
implementing a scheduler within freshclam

> {IDEA TWO}
> 
> Using another variable to indicate whether freshclam should run on odd
> or even hours only. Unfortunately, this would not work for those who
> have 'Check' set to '24'. Actually, I believe that is excessive anyway;
> however, it is not my call.

As above. BTW, it's recommended to run freshclam at least each hour.

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[Clamav-users] Error messsage with: clamconf -n

2009-02-23 Thread Jerry
When using 'clamconf -n', I receive this error message:

Engine version: 0.94.2-exp (with experimental code)
WARNING: Version mismatch: clamconf: 0.94.2, libclamav: 0.94.2-exp

This is the 'clamd --version' output:
ClamAV 0.94.2-exp/9030/Mon Feb 23 05:58:31 2009


Is there a problem here, or is this just a harmless error message?

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Re: [Clamav-users] Error messsage with: clamconf -n

2009-02-23 Thread Török Edwin
On 2009-02-23 15:26, Jerry wrote:
> When using 'clamconf -n', I receive this error message:
>
> Engine version: 0.94.2-exp (with experimental code)
> WARNING: Version mismatch: clamconf: 0.94.2, libclamav: 0.94.2-exp
>
> This is the 'clamd --version' output:
> ClamAV 0.94.2-exp/9030/Mon Feb 23 05:58:31 2009
>
>
> Is there a problem here, or is this just a harmless error message?

That means that clamconf was compiled w/o experimental code, and
libclamav was compiled with.
Since there is no experimental code in 0.94.2, this is harmless.

Best regards,
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Re: [Clamav-users] FRESHCLAN: setting update time

2009-02-23 Thread Jerry
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:10:22 +0100
Tomasz Kojm  wrote:

>On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 07:52:39 -0500
>Jerry  wrote:

[snip}

>> Having another setting that would allow specifying how many minutes
>> past the hour freshclam should run would prove to be a useful
>> addition. The say "HR_DELAY" would be off by default, thereby using
>> the same protocol as is presently in force. Setting the variable
>> would allow forcing the daemon to run at a specific time in relation
>> to the "Check" variable. This would then allow users to stagger the
>> running time of this daemon and any secondary script that is being
>> used to supplement the Clamav database.
>
>You can do it with cron; there's no point in reinventing the wheel and
>implementing a scheduler within freshclam

Obviously; however, that adds a different level of complexity. IMHO,
having the ability to configure it from within the freshclam.conf file
seems easier.

Just my 2¢.
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Re: [Clamav-users] FRESHCLAN: setting update time

2009-02-23 Thread Charles Gregory
>> You can do it with cron; there's no point in reinventing the wheel and
>> implementing a scheduler within freshclam
> Obviously; however, that adds a different level of complexity. IMHO,
> having the ability to configure it from within the freshclam.conf file
> seems easier.

If the issue is FreshClam conflicting with another script/process which 
is updating 'unofficial' configuration files, why not put the onus onto 
that other script/process? You must be running some sort of cron job in 
order to 'regularly' download the updates for those 'unofficial' files?
So why not run freshclam as part of that same procedure/job?

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Re: [Clamav-users] FRESHCLAN: setting update time

2009-02-23 Thread Noel Jones
Charles Gregory wrote:
>>> You can do it with cron; there's no point in reinventing the wheel and
>>> implementing a scheduler within freshclam
>> Obviously; however, that adds a different level of complexity. IMHO,
>> having the ability to configure it from within the freshclam.conf file
>> seems easier.
> 
> If the issue is FreshClam conflicting with another script/process which 
> is updating 'unofficial' configuration files, why not put the onus onto 
> that other script/process? You must be running some sort of cron job in 
> order to 'regularly' download the updates for those 'unofficial' files?
> So why not run freshclam as part of that same procedure/job?
> 
> - Charles

Freshclam<->cron update conflicts do not appear to be the 
issue; ie. avoiding conflicts does not appear to prevent the 
problem, forcing conflicts does not reproduce the problem.

Duplicating cron functions in freshclam will complicate 
freshclam without addressing the problem the OP is trying to 
solve.


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Re: [Clamav-users] FRESHCLAN: setting update time

2009-02-23 Thread Charles Gregory
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009, Noel Jones wrote:
> Charles Gregory wrote:
>> If the issue is FreshClam conflicting with another script/process which
>> is updating 'unofficial' configuration files, why not put the onus onto
>> that other script/process? You must be running some sort of cron job in
>> order to 'regularly' download the updates for those 'unofficial' files?
>> So why not run freshclam as part of that same procedure/job?
>
> Freshclam<->cron update conflicts do not appear to be the
> issue; ie. avoiding conflicts does not appear to prevent the
> problem, forcing conflicts does not reproduce the problem.

It has also been stated that Clam Team members cannot reproduce the 
problem, therefore it would require the OP or someone actually 
experiencing the error to try the suggested 'fixes'. I was responding to 
the OP's suggestion by offering the idea that it would be easier to 
fix the 'secondary script' than to fix the freshclam daemon. Obviously, 
this fix is conditional upon the problem actually being caused by the 
supposed conflict.

> Duplicating cron functions in freshclam will complicate freshclam 
> without addressing the problem the OP is trying to solve.

If you would please properly read my suggestion, which you have quoted, 
you will see that I have suggested the exact opposite: Fix the script, and 
have it run freshclam (not as a daemon, obviously). Obviously this also 
implies a number of possible tests, such as disabling their secondary 
script to see if that action halts the occurrence of the errors, etc, etc.

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[Clamav-users] Injury

2009-02-23 Thread Nigel Horne
Folks,

On Saturday I broke my left collar bone while playing American Football 
with some neighbourhood children.  The good news is that I will still be 
able to work and reply to emails and phone calls, the bad news is that 
because I'm left-handed and I've lost the use of my left arm, it will 
take me longer than usual to respond to correspondence.

Please bear with me during these difficult times as I try to juggle work 
with medical needs.

Regards,

-Nigel
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Re: [Clamav-users] Injury

2009-02-23 Thread Rick Macdougall
Nigel Horne wrote:
> Folks,
> 
> On Saturday I broke my left collar bone while playing American Football 
> with some neighbourhood children.  The good news is that I will still be 
> able to work and reply to emails and phone calls, the bad news is that 
> because I'm left-handed and I've lost the use of my left arm, it will 
> take me longer than usual to respond to correspondence.
> 
> Please bear with me during these difficult times as I try to juggle work 
> with medical needs.
> 

Hoping for a speedy recovery!


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Re: [Clamav-users] Injury

2009-02-23 Thread Kurt Buff
Well, I hope you were having fun! 

Best wishes for the knitting...

Kurt 

> -Original Message-
> From: clamav-users-boun...@lists.clamav.net 
> [mailto:clamav-users-boun...@lists.clamav.net] On Behalf Of 
> Nigel Horne
> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:17
> To: ClamAV users ML
> Subject: [Clamav-users] Injury
> 
> Folks,
> 
> On Saturday I broke my left collar bone while playing 
> American Football with some neighbourhood children.  The good 
> news is that I will still be able to work and reply to emails 
> and phone calls, the bad news is that because I'm left-handed 
> and I've lost the use of my left arm, it will take me longer 
> than usual to respond to correspondence.
> 
> Please bear with me during these difficult times as I try to 
> juggle work with medical needs.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -Nigel
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Re: [Clamav-users] Injury

2009-02-23 Thread Dennis Peterson
Kurt Buff wrote:
> Well, I hope you were having fun! 
> 
> Best wishes for the knitting...
> 

Pruned and bottom posted dittos.

I broke the same bone once - it hurts to sleep :)

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Re: [Clamav-users] Injury

2009-02-23 Thread Jim Preston
Nigel Horne wrote:
> Folks,
>
> On Saturday I broke my left collar bone while playing American Football 
> with some neighbourhood children.  
Wishing you a speedy recovery. I know how hard it can be to be without 
your prominent hand. I fell and put my hand out to break the fall and 
broke a bone in my hand just below the wrist. I was in a cast for 4 
weeks and had to learn to use the other hand to use the mouse. After a 
week or so, it becomes easier.

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Re: [Clamav-users] Injury

2009-02-23 Thread david
Hello Nigel, now I feel bad about that email (actually a rant) I sent you: a 
reply to the clam-av.blogspot.com/freshclam virus data acquisition project. If 
it makes you feel better someone has already flamed me about the rant email. 
Regards, David.


Nigel Horne wrote ..
> Folks,
> 
> On Saturday I broke my left collar bone while playing American Football 
> with some neighbourhood children.  The good news is that I will still be 
> able to work and reply to emails and phone calls, the bad news is that 
> because I'm left-handed and I've lost the use of my left arm, it will 
> take me longer than usual to respond to correspondence.
> 
> Please bear with me during these difficult times as I try to juggle work 
> with medical needs.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -Nigel
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Re: [Clamav-users] Injury

2009-02-23 Thread fchan
Hi Nigel,
Get well soon.
By the way that is why American football players wear those pads and 
protectors for American Tackle Football. I played in my high school 
football team and it is not fun having several 100KG people sitting 
on top of you feeling like squashed bug. That where protection helps 
alot but still got several good sprains and bruises.

Again get well soon and get some rest,
Frank

>Folks,
>
>On Saturday I broke my left collar bone while playing American Football
>with some neighbourhood children.  The good news is that I will still be
>able to work and reply to emails and phone calls, the bad news is that
>because I'm left-handed and I've lost the use of my left arm, it will
>take me longer than usual to respond to correspondence.
>
>Please bear with me during these difficult times as I try to juggle work
>with medical needs.
>
>Regards,
>
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[Clamav-users] problems with virus submission

2009-02-23 Thread Karlheinz Schmidthaus
I received the following answer after submission, but the trojan is not 
detected:

The notice is:
Result:

Submission completed!
090209674.MSG has been successfully sent to the virusdb maintainer team... 


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Re: [Clamav-users] problems with virus submission

2009-02-23 Thread Brandon Perry
When did you submit it? It can take a while depending on the severity of the
trojan and the amount of submissions made...

On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Karlheinz Schmidthaus wrote:

> I received the following answer after submission, but the trojan is not
> detected:
>
> The notice is:
> Result:
>
> Submission completed!
> 090209674.MSG has been successfully sent to the virusdb maintainer team...
>
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Re: [Clamav-users] problems with virus submission

2009-02-23 Thread Karlheinz Schmidthaus
Brandon Perry wrote:
> When did you submit it? It can take a while depending on the severity of the
> trojan and the amount of submissions made...
> 

The last time I send it was 2 days ago (2009-02-21).


> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Karlheinz Schmidthaus 
> wrote:
> 
>> I received the following answer after submission, but the trojan is not
>> detected:
>>
>> The notice is:
>> Result:
>>
>> Submission completed!
>> 090209674.MSG has been successfully sent to the virusdb maintainer team...
>>

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Re: [Clamav-users] problems with virus submission

2009-02-23 Thread Brandon Perry
Hundreds of submissions aer made every day. I would probably wait a week
after submitting before worrying about it. If it is a severe problem, as in
your are getting tons of emails a day infected with the trojan, I would hop
on IRC or email a dev about it and see what they can do.

On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Karlheinz Schmidthaus wrote:

> Brandon Perry wrote:
> > When did you submit it? It can take a while depending on the severity of
> the
> > trojan and the amount of submissions made...
> >
>
> The last time I send it was 2 days ago (2009-02-21).
>
>
> > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Karlheinz Schmidthaus  >wrote:
> >
> >> I received the following answer after submission, but the trojan is not
> >> detected:
> >>
> >> The notice is:
> >> Result:
> >>
> >> Submission completed!
> >> 090209674.MSG has been successfully sent to the virusdb maintainer
> team...
> >>
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Re: [Clamav-users] problems with virus submission

2009-02-23 Thread rafa
Brandon Perry wrote:
> Hundreds of submissions aer made every day. I would probably wait a week
> after submitting before worrying about it. If it is a severe problem, as in
> your are getting tons of emails a day infected with the trojan, I would hop
> on IRC or email a dev about it and see what they can do.

or you can create your own signatures until you wait for the official ones.
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[Clamav-users] Corrupted File Identification

2009-02-23 Thread Madhu Krishna Sandadi
Hi,

Let me know,whether ClamAV supports the identification of corrupted 
file or not??

Thanks In Advance,
--Madhu Sandadi


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Re: [Clamav-users] Corrupted File Identification

2009-02-23 Thread Tomasz Kojm
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:45:54 +0530
Madhu Krishna Sandadi  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Let me know,whether ClamAV supports the identification of corrupted 
> file or not??

It does for executables; just enable DetectBrokenExecutables in clamd.conf
or pass --detect-broken to clamscan

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