Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-14 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 14.12.2010 00:20, Warren Young napsal(a):
> Nothing is truly intuitive 
> in computing.  ("The only intuitive interface is the nipple.")

As a father of two kids, I can testify that even the nipple is hardly
intuitive. Every kid (and mom) needs to learn how to use it. Just to
clear one myth.

Best,

Matěj

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Re: [CentOS] yum difference

2011-01-10 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 10.1.2011 00:35, derleader __ napsal(a):
> Red hat yum downloads packages from RHN
> Centos yum downloads packages from the fastest mirror?
> 
> There is difference in configuration.

yum can use plugins and in this case RHEL yum uses rhnplugin for
communicating with RHN/Satellite. Yum itself (from yum.src.rpm) is same.

Best,

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[CentOS] Re: OT: Bugzilla command line interface?

2008-11-29 Thread Matej Cepl
On 2008-11-29, 02:18 GMT, MHR wrote:
> Does anyone here have a good working knowledge of the command line
> interface to Bugzilla?
>
> If so, please contact me off-list as this is OT here, but my inquiry
> on the bugzilla list met with silence

It is OT, but I cannot resist to make a small plug to it -- 
https://fedorahosted.org/python-bugzilla/
However, it is only tested for bugzilla.redhat.com, which is 
probably not totally standard as of its XML-RPC interface (which 
is what is used behind the scenes).

Matěj

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[CentOS] Re: Enterprise Package Tracker

2008-11-29 Thread Matej Cepl
On 2008-11-29, 20:23 GMT, Vandaman wrote:
> yumlist or yumex are not as good as rpmfind, as i don't run 
> yumex/GUI on any server.

He, didn't say yumlist, but yum list (and you can add yum search 
to the mix).

Matěj

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Re: [CentOS] Stop the FUD Xen is not deprecated

2008-12-03 Thread Matej Cepl
On 2008-12-03, 00:41 GMT, Christopher Chan wrote:
> This is not a matter of preferring Ubuntu.  It is one of NO 
> CHOICE. I know next to nothing about Debian/Ubuntu 
> configuration files nor am I familiar with dpkg or apt as I am 
> with rpm and yum. You think I want to move over for fun?

I am certainly missing something here -- you are familiar with 
the Red Hat world and thus when you need desktops you choose 
Ubuntu? Have you heard about Fedora? Fedora 10 was released just 
now, and I think (given Qumranet is now part of Red Hat) it 
should have pretty good support for kvm.

What do I miss?

Best,

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Re: [CentOS] Stop the FUD Xen is not deprecated

2008-12-04 Thread Matej Cepl
On 2008-12-04, 00:42 GMT, Christopher Chan wrote:
> What would you pick? Learn a few new commands/configuration 
> files or have to prep up a new desktop rollout every six 
> months?

12 -- Fedora 8 is still pretty good and only now you would have 
to switch to F10. Actually, I know about many people who skipped 
F9 completely, and I don't blame them.

> I believe in using the right tool for the job. So I might pick 
> OpenBSD for a firewall over Linux depending on what needs to be 
> on firewall/nat gateway.

Cool. Of course, you would have to have to familiarize with the 
new environment, but I guess you know that.

> RHEL/Fedora is not the ultimate answer for everything although 
> we'd like it to be

I would have a question about Ubuntu LTS. What are your 
experience with it? How much they really maintain it or is it (as 
I suspect; note, I have on experience with it, so I am not 
claiming anything) just that they throw LTS label on one of their 
releases and fix security issues only?

Best,

Matěj

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Re: [CentOS] Off-distro content; was: Stop the FUD Xen is not deprecated

2008-12-05 Thread Matej Cepl
On 2008-12-04, 17:50 GMT, R P Herrold wrote:
> Almost all (I cannot think of any exceptions, but there may be) 
> of the core centos team do not run off-topic threads on either 
> the fedora or RHEL lists;  May we have the same courtesy?

sorry, I will do better next time,

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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Firefox loses plugins, anyone else? Bug? Known?

2008-12-05 Thread Matej Cepl
On 2008-12-05, 13:22 GMT, William L. Maltby wrote:
> Got second cup of coffee downed and went to see if the bug was 
> known here
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=specific\
> &order=relevance+desc&bug_status=__open__&content=plugin
>
> Didn't see a match. If someone can confirm, I'll post a bug.

Strange. I am a bug triager of (among others) all gecko-related 
bugs in the RH bugzilla, and I cannot recall to hear about a bug 
like this.

Isn't there something strange about your set-up ($HOME on NFS, 
SELinux issue, ...)?

Best,

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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Firefox loses plugins, anyone else? Bug? Known?

2008-12-06 Thread Matej Cepl
On 2008-12-05, 23:48 GMT, William L. Maltby wrote:
>> I was able to _start_ a comparison process, not completed yet. 

What is the output of the command

mozilla-plugin-config -l

? And if you have flash-plugin in ~/.mozilla then many bad things 
will happen to you. Remove it and install the one from Adobe yum 
repo together with nspluginwrapper from CentOS repos.

Does it help?

Matěj

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Re: [CentOS] regarding vpn server for 1500 clients

2008-12-19 Thread Matej Cepl
On 2008-12-17, 08:37 GMT, NiftyClusters T Mitchell wrote:
> It is possible that dedicated Cisco hardware solutions will 
> scale better.

Your mileage may vary, but I have terrible experience with Linux 
Cisco VPN clients, so I would strongly suggest OpenVPN. Of 
course, I don't know anything about needs for so huge 
installation etc. -- the only I have is very bad experience with 
Cisco VPN as its user.

Matěj

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Re: [CentOS] Rebuild xorg (continued from Centos-devel)

2008-12-21 Thread Matej Cepl
On 2008-12-21, 22:38 GMT, William L. Maltby wrote:
> Note that I changed "vesa" to "vga" since the card mentions 
> only vga.

Forget about VGA, it is really obsolete now -- all graphic cards 
you are likely to encounter in the wild are VESA-compatible, 
which is what you want.

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Re: [CentOS] Rebuild xorg (continued from Centos-devel)

2008-12-22 Thread Matej Cepl
On 2008-12-22, 00:11 GMT, William L. Maltby wrote:
> He had tried vesa in a parameter to system-config-display, as 
> suggested by Alan, and it hadn't worked. So I figured try 
> something that _ought_ to work on stuff even 10 years old (or 
> older) and go from there.

OK, if *that* didn't work, then I would ask really to pay a visit 
to bugzilla.redhat.com, component xorg-x11-drv-ati, attach 
xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log.

Thanks,

Matěj

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Re: [CentOS] Rebuild xorg (continued from Centos-devel)

2008-12-22 Thread Matej Cepl
On 2008-12-22, 17:38 GMT, William L. Maltby wrote:
> Well, having faith that things really _are_ working, one of his 
> messages in the log file about insufficient memory reminded me 
> that many laptops and less-expensive desktops have shared 
> memory. I've suggested that he check BIOS for various things.

No such thing should be necessary to get Xorg working. If it 
doesn't work without such black magic, then it is broken.

Matěj

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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Firefox loses plugins, anyone else? Bug? Known?

2008-12-22 Thread Matej Cepl
On 2008-12-22, 17:58 GMT, William L. Maltby wrote:
> Other folks chimed in at various points, so you might want to 
> take a gander at those too.

I think I saw couple of these in our bugzilla now and I wonder 
whether it is the same. Try to run 
gnome-default-applications-properties and take a look at what's 
set as your browser application. If it is 
/usr/lib/firefox*/firefox or something like that, then select the 
default Firefox and it should work.

Does it help?

Matěj

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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Firefox loses plugins, anyone else? Bug? Known?

2008-12-23 Thread Matej Cepl
On 2008-12-22, 23:49 GMT, William L. Maltby wrote:
> I presume this completes the triage process? Now, who reports 

I hope this bug is publicly visible
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=471193
otherwise just yes, IMHO (and it is not official statement by RH 
Gecko developers) whole business of Firefox checking being 
a default browser is unhappy relict of Windows browser wars and 
it should be eliminated in the Linux FF altogether. I don't know 
if it happens though.

Matěj

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Re: [CentOS] Bash Script for Beginners! oh dear :'(

2008-12-23 Thread Matej Cepl
On 2008-12-23, 12:15 GMT, James Bensley wrote:
> find . -exec grep -q "$1" '{}' \; -print >> ./found_files

I think you can have only one action (either -exec or -print), 
but not sure about it. Anyway, my first instinct when things are 
getting to be more complicated is to use while cycle, like this:

find . |while read FILE ; do
if grep "$FILE" '{}' >/dev/null 2>&1 ; then
echo "$FILE" >> ./found_files
fi
done

Matěj

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Re: [CentOS] Installing RHEL5.3

2008-12-23 Thread Matej Cepl
On 2008-12-23, 18:05 GMT, Vandaman wrote:
> If you are having problems with 5.2 then address these problems
> immediately without waiting for 5.3. How do you address them? File bugs
> or ask questions relating to your existing problem but 5.3 beta is unable 
> to solve them automagically for you.

I am a bug triager for RH Desktop team and I told Alan that it is 
most likely his problems will be solved automagically (well, 
through hard work of Dave Airlie) in 5.3. Unfortunately, Beta is 
not available. He has to wait until CentOS 5.3 happens.

Matěj Cepl

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Re: [CentOS] Installing RHEL5.3

2008-12-26 Thread Matej Cepl
On 2008-12-24, 14:00 GMT, Alain PORTAL wrote:
> More info in the updated bug:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3D477708#c5

Thanks Alain, this looks really pretty bad. Bug updated and 
maintainer asked to take a look at it.

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Re: [CentOS] Bash Script for Beginners! oh dear :'(

2008-12-26 Thread Matej Cepl
On 2008-12-24, 01:22 GMT, MHR wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Matej Cepl wrote:
>> On 2008-12-23, 12:15 GMT, James Bensley wrote:
>>> find . -exec grep -q "$1" '{}' \; -print >> ./found_files
>>
>> I think you can have only one action (either -exec or -print),
>> but not sure about it. Anyway, my first instinct when things are
>> getting to be more complicated is to use while cycle, like this:
>>
>> find . |while read FILE ; do
>>if grep "$FILE" '{}' >/dev/null 2>&1 ; then
>>echo "$FILE" >> ./found_files
>>fi
>> done
>>
>
> I don't think the '{}' construct for 'find' will work on the other
> side of a pipe

Of course, that's what I get from copying original text. Should 
read:

find . |while read FILE ; do
   if grep "$FILE" "$1" >/dev/null 2>&1 ; then
   echo "$FILE" >> ./found_files
   fi
done

Matěj Cepl

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Re: [CentOS] ZFS on Linux

2009-01-05 Thread Matej Cepl
On 2008-12-30, 15:32 GMT, Tony Placilla wrote:
> The root answer is that if he wants to use ZFS (which is 
> a *good* choice) he should use some flavor of Solaris

I would just add that RHEL 5.3 (and thus CentOS 5.3) when it 
happens, will have ext4fs as a technology preview, which may 
fulfill OT needs as well.

Matěj

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