Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-21 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 10/21/19 6:02 AM, David G. Miller wrote:
> On 10/11/19 7:46 PM, Robert G (Doc) Savage via CentOS wrote:
>> On Wed, 2019-09-25 at 15:25 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
>>> As of now, I have a working MATE DM on CentOS 8. It's a hack though,
>>> I
>>> used Fedora repositories. But that means compiling MATE in EPEL
>>> should
>>> be straightforward, just recompile Fedora 28 packages.
>>>
>>>
>>> I used Fedora 28 repo file  and Fedora 28 GPG keys (links are
>>> bellow),
>>> unpacked then to proper directory and in Fedora repo files I changed
>>> "$releasever" to "28".
>>> I also installed yum-plugin-priorities and in all CentOS repo's added
>>> "priority=1" and in all Fedora repos added "priority=2".
>>>
>>> Then I ran following commands (something like this, I experimented
>>> some):
>>>
>>>
>>> yum install python2-six
>>> yum install mate* -x mate*devel* -x mate-menu
>>> yum groupinstall "MATE" --skip-broken
>>> yum groupinstall "MATE Desktop" --skip-broken
>>> echo "exec /usr/bin/mate-session" >> ~/.xinitrc
>>> reboot
>>> and then selected MATE in login screen.
>>>
>>>
>>> Links to rpm's:
>>> https://ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/archive.fedoraproject.org/fedora/linux/releases/28/Everything/x86_64/os/Packages/f/fedora-repos-28-1.noarch.rpm
>>>
>>> and
>>> https://ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/archive.fedoraproject.org/fedora/linux/releases/28/Everything/x86_64/os/Packages/f/fedora-gpg-keys-28-1.noarch.rpm
>>>
>>>
>>> List of installed packages from Fedora 28:
>>> https://pastebin.com/VXL03Uqj
>>>
>> Ljubomi,
>>
>> Hooray! I re-installed CentOS 8 to a fresh VM and went through your
>> instructions again. This time everything rebuilt and installed
>> correctly. Thank you!
>>
>> --Doc Savage
>>    Fairview Heights, IL
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> Ljubomi -
> 
> A couple of minor tweaks:
> 
> v
> yum --skip-broken install mate\* -x mate\*devel\* -x mate-menu -x
> mate-optimus\*
> yum groupinstall "MATE" --skip-broken
> vvv
> yum groupinstall "MATE Desktop" --skip-broken --exclude "*logos*"
> 
> but otherwise working. Decided that I should see whether I could get
> MATE working on CentOS 8 before fiddling with Xfce. I now have a usable
> CentOS 8 desktop. Thank you!
> 
> Cheers,
> Dave
> 

Thanks Dave.
There is another option I posted in this general thread, a Fedora COPR
user has rebuilt MATE for EL8:
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/stenstorp/MATE/


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[CentOS] Failure to install boot loader on Dell PowerEdge R720xd

2019-10-21 Thread Kenneth Porter

What command does the installer use to install the boot loader?

I sucessfully installed CentOS 8 to the server, with /usr on a mirrored SSD 
pair on the RAID controller and /boot on the internal SD card (where Dell 
wants one to boot from). Before rebooting, I inspected the installation at 
/mnt/sysimage and the disk usage looked reasonable. I saw a grub directory 
in /boot but no second stage boot loader nor any config files for it.


At the end of the process, I got an error message that the installer failed 
to install the boot loader and the resulting system wouldn't boot. It 
didn't. There were no details useful for diagnosis. So now I'm about to 
boot the installer DVD into rescue mode to manually install the boot loader 
and see the real error message. So what command do I issue?


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Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-21 Thread Simon Matter via CentOS
>
>
> On 2019-10-18 10:27, Jonathan Billings wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 09:23:38AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>>> And last but not least: I got used to some way of interaction with
>>> computer,
>>> and that way is most productive for me after very long use. I don't
>>> want to
>>> blend in iPad generation, I want to stay productive which I am. So, I
>>> use
>>> Mutt (on FreeBSD, which my workstation runs, it is so easy and
>>> straightforward to install and maintain Mutt).
>
> I corrected myself, I meant above: Mate (desktop). The Desktop
> Environment that is behaving and interacting with me the old fashioned
> way I became productive using since forever.

But hey, why in the world you want it easy when you can have it
complicated, super modern and sucking your work time?

>
>>
>> Nothing stopping you from using mutt on a CentOS system, regardless of
>> what desktop environment you use, just as email clients such as
>> Evolution and kmail can run in other desktop environments.
>>
>> It's too bad that Mutt doesn't support GMail's authentication well
> And no, I don't use gmail anything, I know you are a wast majority who
> don't care, so, I'll not explain, and will stop right here.

As you, I'm trying to keep my life ungoogled as much as I can. Just to
explain it has always been a pain. I'll use your words above in future :-)

Regards,
Simon

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Re: [CentOS] Failure to install boot loader on Dell PowerEdge R720xd

2019-10-21 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 02:35:26AM -0700, Kenneth Porter wrote:
>
> What command does the installer use to install the boot loader?

What kind of boot are you doing?  Legacy/BIOS or UEFI?

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Re: [CentOS] Failure to install boot loader on Dell PowerEdge R720xd

2019-10-21 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 09:07:39AM -0400, Jonathan Billings wrote:
>
> On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 02:35:26AM -0700, Kenneth Porter wrote:
> >
> > What command does the installer use to install the boot loader?
> 
> What kind of boot are you doing?  Legacy/BIOS or UEFI?

One way to check is to look for the existence of /sys/firmware/efi/,
if it's there, you've booted via UEFI.  

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Re: [CentOS] UEFI and PXE

2019-10-21 Thread isdtor
Chris Adams writes:
> Once upon a time, isdtor  said:
> > Yes, it looks like I'm out of luck and need to find a newer machine to test 
> > this with. Moving the tftp server works to an extent - server boots right 
> > into a grub prompt.
> 
> Weird.  I have a couple of Intel-based systems that do UEFI PXE boot
> okay, but they're much newer than the 11th gen PowerEdge (I have some of
> those still in service but they're not running UEFI mode).  Also,
> they're client-type systems, not servers (a Thinkpad notebook and an
> Intel NUC), so possibly different firmware base.
> 
> I vaguely remember in the distant past having some kind of problem like
> this, and I think on those systems, I used a boot floppy (yes, that long
> ago!) with gPXE on it.

Not too happy to revive this old thread ...

Has anyone managed to UEFI/PXE boot CentOS6? I managed to find newer hw and 
have this working perfectly with CentOS7. With 6, however, I again cannot boot 
beyond a grub prompt.

CentOS7 bootx64.efi does not work for CentOS6 as it complains "kernel too old". 
Booting with CentOS6 /boot/efi/EFI/redhat/grub.efi, and the older style pxe 
config file as per 
https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/6/html/installation_guide/s1-netboot-pxe-config-efi
 results in a grub (legacy) prompt on the target machine.

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Re: [CentOS] UEFI and PXE

2019-10-21 Thread Gordon Messmer

On 10/21/19 6:38 AM, isdtor wrote:

Booting with CentOS6 /boot/efi/EFI/redhat/grub.efi, and the older style pxe 
config file as per ... results in a grub (legacy) prompt on the target machine.



Have you tried using the file from the installation tree?

http://centos.s.uw.edu/centos/6/os/x86_64/EFI/BOOT/

or with files extracted from one of the ISOs?

http://centos.s.uw.edu/centos/6/os/x86_64/images/

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Re: [CentOS] UEFI and PXE

2019-10-21 Thread isdtor
Gordon Messmer writes:
> On 10/21/19 6:38 AM, isdtor wrote:
> > Booting with CentOS6 /boot/efi/EFI/redhat/grub.efi, and the older style pxe 
> > config file as per ... results in a grub (legacy) prompt on the target 
> > machine.
> 
> 
> Have you tried using the file from the installation tree?
> 
> http://centos.s.uw.edu/centos/6/os/x86_64/EFI/BOOT/
> 
> or with files extracted from one of the ISOs?
> 
> http://centos.s.uw.edu/centos/6/os/x86_64/images/

They are all identical to the installed one (distributed with grub).

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Re: [CentOS] Failure to install boot loader on Dell PowerEdge R720xd

2019-10-21 Thread Kenneth Porter
It was set to BIOS when I got the error that installing the bootloader 
failed. I'm now trying it in UEFI mode.


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Re: [CentOS] Failure to install boot loader on Dell PowerEdge R720xd

2019-10-21 Thread Kenneth Porter

Success!

Using the gparted live DVD, I switched the BIOS to use UEFI and 
repartitioned the internal 1GB SD card to GPT, 256 MB FAT32 EFI boot 
partition, 666 MB ext4 partition for /boot, and I was off to the races. I 
was able to do a minimal install and have it boot to a login prompt. Now to 
install package groups...


BTW, all this was done using the virtual DVD drive provided by the Dell 
remote console hardware, mounting ISO files from my Win10 box. That works 
pretty nicely. No need to muck about with actual disks or USB sticks.


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Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-21 Thread David G. Miller

On 10/21/19 1:00 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:

On 10/21/19 6:02 AM, David G. Miller wrote:

On 10/11/19 7:46 PM, Robert G (Doc) Savage via CentOS wrote:

On Wed, 2019-09-25 at 15:25 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:

As of now, I have a working MATE DM on CentOS 8. It's a hack though,
I
used Fedora repositories. But that means compiling MATE in EPEL
should
be straightforward, just recompile Fedora 28 packages.


I used Fedora 28 repo file  and Fedora 28 GPG keys (links are
bellow),
unpacked then to proper directory and in Fedora repo files I changed
"$releasever" to "28".
I also installed yum-plugin-priorities and in all CentOS repo's added
"priority=1" and in all Fedora repos added "priority=2".

Then I ran following commands (something like this, I experimented
some):


yum install python2-six
yum install mate* -x mate*devel* -x mate-menu
yum groupinstall "MATE" --skip-broken
yum groupinstall "MATE Desktop" --skip-broken
echo "exec /usr/bin/mate-session" >> ~/.xinitrc
reboot
and then selected MATE in login screen.


Links to rpm's:
https://ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/archive.fedoraproject.org/fedora/linux/releases/28/Everything/x86_64/os/Packages/f/fedora-repos-28-1.noarch.rpm

and
https://ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/archive.fedoraproject.org/fedora/linux/releases/28/Everything/x86_64/os/Packages/f/fedora-gpg-keys-28-1.noarch.rpm


List of installed packages from Fedora 28:
https://pastebin.com/VXL03Uqj


Ljubomi,

Hooray! I re-installed CentOS 8 to a fresh VM and went through your
instructions again. This time everything rebuilt and installed
correctly. Thank you!

--Doc Savage
    Fairview Heights, IL

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Ljubomi -

A couple of minor tweaks:

v
yum --skip-broken install mate\* -x mate\*devel\* -x mate-menu -x
mate-optimus\*
yum groupinstall "MATE" --skip-broken
vvv
yum groupinstall "MATE Desktop" --skip-broken --exclude "*logos*"

but otherwise working. Decided that I should see whether I could get
MATE working on CentOS 8 before fiddling with Xfce. I now have a usable
CentOS 8 desktop. Thank you!

Cheers,
Dave


Thanks Dave.
There is another option I posted in this general thread, a Fedora COPR
user has rebuilt MATE for EL8:
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/stenstorp/MATE/


Saw that but I wanted to work through your original process with MATE 
before trying the same approach with Xfce  The good news is that I got 
the same results but with Xfce.  One different tweak to get around some 
additional conflicts between Fedora 28 Xfce and CentOS 8 Gnome:


yum groupinstall "Xfce" --skip-broken --exclude "*adwaita-gtk2-theme*"
yum groupinstall "Xfce Desktop" --skip-broken --exclude "*adwaita-gtk2-theme*" 
--exclude"*logos*"

Also, I skipped the step analogous to:

yum install mate* -x mate*devel* -x mate-menu

since it seemed to be redundant with doing the group installs.  So, I 
now have two CentOS 8 VMs with neither using Gnome 3.


Thanks again!!!

Cheers,
Dave

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[CentOS] C8 regression / tmp on tmpfs

2019-10-21 Thread Leon Fauster via CentOS

Does someone have a working tmp on tmpfs via

systemctl enable tmp.mount

under CentOS8/RHEL8? This seems to work straight in EL7 ...


# LANG=C systemctl enable tmp.mount
The unit files have no installation config (WantedBy, RequiredBy, Also, 
Alias

settings in the [Install] section, and DefaultInstance for template units).
This means they are not meant to be enabled using systemctl.
Possible reasons for having this kind of units are:
1) A unit may be statically enabled by being symlinked from another unit's
   .wants/ or .requires/ directory.
2) A unit's purpose may be to act as a helper for some other unit which has
   a requirement dependency on it.
3) A unit may be started when needed via activation (socket, path, timer,
   D-Bus, udev, scripted systemctl call, ...).
4) In case of template units, the unit is meant to be enabled with some
   instance name specified.

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Re: [CentOS] C8 regression / tmp on tmpfs

2019-10-21 Thread Orion Poplawski

On 10/21/19 3:42 PM, Leon Fauster via CentOS wrote:

Does someone have a working tmp on tmpfs via

systemctl enable tmp.mount

under CentOS8/RHEL8? This seems to work straight in EL7 ...


# LANG=C systemctl enable tmp.mount
The unit files have no installation config (WantedBy, RequiredBy, Also, 
Alias

settings in the [Install] section, and DefaultInstance for template units).


Looks like a known issue:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1667065

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Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-10-21 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 10/21/19 9:41 PM, David G. Miller wrote:
> On 10/21/19 1:00 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
>> On 10/21/19 6:02 AM, David G. Miller wrote:
>>> On 10/11/19 7:46 PM, Robert G (Doc) Savage via CentOS wrote:
 On Wed, 2019-09-25 at 15:25 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
>>>
>>> A couple of minor tweaks:
>>>
>>> v
>>> yum --skip-broken install mate\* -x mate\*devel\* -x mate-menu -x
>>> mate-optimus\*
>>> yum groupinstall "MATE" --skip-broken
>>> vvv
>>> yum groupinstall "MATE Desktop" --skip-broken --exclude "*logos*"
>>>
>>> but otherwise working. Decided that I should see whether I could get
>>> MATE working on CentOS 8 before fiddling with Xfce. I now have a usable
>>> CentOS 8 desktop. Thank you!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Dave
>>>
>> Thanks Dave.
>> There is another option I posted in this general thread, a Fedora COPR
>> user has rebuilt MATE for EL8:
>> https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/stenstorp/MATE/
>>
>>
> Saw that but I wanted to work through your original process with MATE
> before trying the same approach with Xfce  The good news is that I got
> the same results but with Xfce.  One different tweak to get around some
> additional conflicts between Fedora 28 Xfce and CentOS 8 Gnome:
> 
> yum groupinstall "Xfce" --skip-broken --exclude "*adwaita-gtk2-theme*"
> yum groupinstall "Xfce Desktop" --skip-broken --exclude
> "*adwaita-gtk2-theme*" --exclude"*logos*"
> 
> Also, I skipped the step analogous to:
> 
> yum install mate* -x mate*devel* -x mate-menu
> 
> since it seemed to be redundant with doing the group installs.  So, I
> now have two CentOS 8 VMs with neither using Gnome 3.
> 
> Thanks again!!!

Very nice. I'll see to post this in CentOS group on Facebook.

> 
> Cheers,
> Dave
> 


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