Re: [CentOS] home on nfs

2017-11-05 Thread Patrick Bégou
Thanks Pete and James for pointing to this detailed page on NFS. I was 
unable to find this from google and now  I clearly understand why these 
files occur.


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[CentOS] CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 153, Issue 1

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   1. CESA-2017:3111 CentOS 7 liblouis Security Update (Johnny Hughes)


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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2017 20:03:45 +
From: Johnny Hughes 
To: centos-annou...@centos.org
Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2017:3111 CentOS 7 liblouis Security
Update
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CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2017:3111

Upstream details at : https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2017:3111

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) 

x86_64:
e6ef46fa345433ec7740b22689e21231f1010374dea252adb0fedc847031ef38  
liblouis-2.5.2-11.el7_4.i686.rpm
f93ed050440a3693b491b5b636f1817ab8efa5259f4e34f3feec6cfa5888fdd7  
liblouis-2.5.2-11.el7_4.x86_64.rpm
9111c6e070c75284cd2ef9b33ca666d45e82d4f4ed4ebe8ea4d9e877764d10b0  
liblouis-devel-2.5.2-11.el7_4.i686.rpm
a4160979338d91e47722b29a716a183d1a01f45740f40104207849962f0151e4  
liblouis-devel-2.5.2-11.el7_4.x86_64.rpm
24430cd6d2e43d3928dc1dc6e42071d1b87e9d6f54d57823f652e0bf1f37106a  
liblouis-doc-2.5.2-11.el7_4.noarch.rpm
427517b58ef1e5fc4847d61de4f3c89ca08e11c21ea5ceea0ed3f827196cb280  
liblouis-python-2.5.2-11.el7_4.noarch.rpm
dd54f37714da0433bf28a4b9f6908319847c0dba1b84a6a062561a23f97c3a92  
liblouis-utils-2.5.2-11.el7_4.x86_64.rpm

Source:
deffc7ea7f3ee0210bbcd88c4e66eb8c962cbea9c96e2d393720869c6f1a98d2  
liblouis-2.5.2-11.el7_4.src.rpm



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[CentOS] Intermittently unresponsive mouse

2017-11-05 Thread H
I am using the Mate desktop on CentOS 7 and have found that the mouse 
intermittently becomes unresponsive for a few seconds, typically no more than 
3-5 seconds. I do not remember seeing that when I used the regular Gnome 
desktop on CentOS 6 but I could misremember. The machine is fast and uses a 
dual-monitor setup with the native nVidia graphics driver.

Is this really to be expected? I thought this was not an issue on Linux or 
maybe I am engaging in wishful thinking...

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Re: [CentOS] Intermittently unresponsive mouse

2017-11-05 Thread wwp
Hello H,


On Sun, 5 Nov 2017 10:26:27 -0500 H  wrote:

> I am using the Mate desktop on CentOS 7 and have found that the mouse 
> intermittently becomes unresponsive for a few seconds, typically no more than 
> 3-5 seconds. I do not remember seeing that when I used the regular Gnome 
> desktop on CentOS 6 but I could misremember. The machine is fast and uses a 
> dual-monitor setup with the native nVidia graphics driver.
> 
> Is this really to be expected? I thought this was not an issue on Linux or 
> maybe I am engaging in wishful thinking...

Do you reproduce the same issue w/ another hardware (mouse or trackpad
if it's a laptop).

Does `tail -F /var/log/messages` show anything special while this is
happening?

Would be nice to check the resources consumption too, in order to see it
those lags correspond to high-activity peaks.


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Re: [CentOS] Intermittently unresponsive mouse

2017-11-05 Thread Richard


> Date: Sunday, November 05, 2017 17:22:42 +0100
> From: wwp 
>
> On Sun, 5 Nov 2017 10:26:27 -0500 H  wrote:
> 
>> I am using the Mate desktop on CentOS 7 and have found that the
>> mouse intermittently becomes unresponsive for a few seconds,
>> typically no more than 3-5 seconds. I do not remember seeing that
>> when I used the regular Gnome desktop on CentOS 6 but I could
>> misremember. The machine is fast and uses a dual-monitor setup
>> with the native nVidia graphics driver.
>> 
>> Is this really to be expected? I thought this was not an issue on
>> Linux or maybe I am engaging in wishful thinking...
> 
> Do you reproduce the same issue w/ another hardware (mouse or
> trackpad if it's a laptop).
> 
> Does `tail -F /var/log/messages` show anything special while this is
> happening?
> 
> Would be nice to check the resources consumption too, in order to
> see it those lags correspond to high-activity peaks.
> 

How is the mouse connected -- ps/2, usb, bluetooth, something else
(e.g., mouse-specific dongle)?

I use a touchpad that's built into my usb-connected keyboard and
don't encounter mouse latency issues with c7/mate. 
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Re: [CentOS] Intermittently unresponsive mouse

2017-11-05 Thread fred roller
My mouse lag tends to correspond to low battery or exceeding the 2-3 ft
range of wireless (i.e. I kick back on my chair).  Assuming it is
wireless.  Not much info on hw.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 P2V alternatives?

2017-11-05 Thread Sorin Srbu
> -Original Message-
> From: CentOS [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of hw
> Sent: den 3 november 2017 12:10
> To: centos@centos.org
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 P2V alternatives?
> 
> I think I would try to create a VM that has the physical disks passed through
> and also has access to whatever storage it´s supposed to reside on once the
> conversion to a VM is completed.  Then copy it from the physical disks to that
> storage.
> 
> Converting without shutting the machine down is probably not possible.
> Passing the disks through may give you the advantage that the downtime can be
> kept to a minimum.

I touched the physical disk solution briefly while looking around, but felt at 
the time it was a tad bit complicated.

I'll have another look at this.

Thanks for the feedback!
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 P2V alternatives?

2017-11-05 Thread Sorin Srbu
> -Original Message-
> From: CentOS [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Robert
> Nichols
> Sent: den 3 november 2017 14:46
> To: centos@centos.org
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 P2V alternatives?
>
> How would you recover if that server were suddenly destroyed, let's say by a
> power supply failure that fried the motherboard and all the disks? If you 
> can't
> bring up a machine on new, bare iron starting with nothing but your backups
> and a CD or USB stick with a recovery tool, you need to seriously reconsider
> your backup strategy.

The important data is backed up properly.
I'm looking for a "quick fix" solution to clone the server as is. I'm pretty 
sure I can duplicate the setup for the license managers and intricate scripts, 
and what not. I'm just not too hot on spending a few weeks on this.

I'm aware of the fast - cheap - good pyramid. :-)

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Re: [CentOS] HP laptops with CentOS 7?

2017-11-05 Thread Sorin Srbu
> -Original Message-
> From: CentOS [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Johnny
> Hughes
> Sent: den 3 november 2017 14:43
> To: centos@centos.org
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] HP laptops with CentOS 7?
> 
> 
> For the vast majority of laptops that are not based on the absolute
> latest chipsets, CentOS Linux 7 just works.  There are sometimes issues
> with the latest Intel Graphics or the latest Intel CPU chipset.  The
> latest kernel did get newer hardware drivers.
> 
> We also have an experimental kernel here that can be tried if you have a
> specific issue as well:
> 
> https://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup/AltArch/i386
> 
> (look at the .repo file for experimental kernel at the bottom of the
> page .. it works for i386 and x86_64 CentOS Linux 7 arches)

Thanks!

What would you consider be a tested and proven working, newish chipset?

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Re: [CentOS] HP laptops with CentOS 7?

2017-11-05 Thread John R Pierce

On 11/5/2017 10:45 PM, Sorin Srbu wrote:

What would you consider be a tested and proven working, newish chipset?



its really the CPU now that matters, rather than the 'chipset', as most 
all the base IO devices are in the CPU (ethernet, sata, video).


I think Kaby Lake support is still a sketchy, thats Core gen 7. (i-7xxx).

I'm not sure what the state of Skylake is (gen 6)

Broadwell should be very solid at this point (5th gen), that was new in 
early 2015.




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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 P2V alternatives?

2017-11-05 Thread Sorin Srbu
> -Original Message-
> From: CentOS [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Mark
> Haney
> Sent: den 3 november 2017 18:03
> To: centos@centos.org
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 P2V alternatives?
>
>
> I'll toss my two cents worth in having dealt with a similar situation
> recently (well 2015, but close enough).  If this server is /that/
> important, I'd really consider building a completely new virtual
> instance on the hypervisor of your choice.  Though, to be completely
> honest, Hyper-V is just awful in my testing. There are far more P2V
> options for VMWare, including it's own P2V software which I've not had
> particular trouble with in a half-decade, if you insist on a P2V migration.
>
> If we're just talking backups, Veeam for Hyper-V  (and ESXi) works
> really well and you can bring up the backed up VM on the fly if you need
> to recover data from it, or for DR/BC.  I've never had a problem with it
> and, at my last position, had it set to run the backups on a remote
> cloud in case of catastrophic damage to the office.  Of course, there's
> no such thing as too many backups, so critical data on a server like you
> have was replicated to a warm/cold site, or part of a cluster for DBs to
> make sure data integrity was kept and uptime maximized.

While Hyper-V is not ideal, it's good enough for our purpose. We made a choice 
a few years back to either completely rehaul our vm infrastructure or just 
hand it over to central IT at our university. The later option won, mostly 
because of the cost.
Since central IT uses Hyper-V, that's what we also use.

Building a completely new vm and somehow restore from backup the important 
parts, is what I'm looking at now.

Thanks for your feedback!


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Re: [CentOS] HP laptops with CentOS 7?

2017-11-05 Thread Sorin Srbu
> -Original Message-
> From: CentOS [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of John R
> Pierce
> Sent: den 6 november 2017 07:56
> To: centos@centos.org
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] HP laptops with CentOS 7?
> 
> On 11/5/2017 10:45 PM, Sorin Srbu wrote:
> > What would you consider be a tested and proven working, newish chipset?
> 
> 
> its really the CPU now that matters, rather than the 'chipset', as most
> all the base IO devices are in the CPU (ethernet, sata, video).
> 
> I think Kaby Lake support is still a sketchy, thats Core gen 7. (i-7xxx).
> 
> I'm not sure what the state of Skylake is (gen 6)
> 
> Broadwell should be very solid at this point (5th gen), that was new in
> early 2015.

Gotcha', thanks!

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Re: [CentOS] HP laptops with CentOS 7?

2017-11-05 Thread Sorin Srbu
> -Original Message-
> From: CentOS [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Valeri
> Galtsev
> Sent: den 3 november 2017 18:33
> To: CentOS mailing list 
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] HP laptops with CentOS 7?
> 
> Whoever wants to listen to my advise, it will be: stay away from HP and
> Compaq laptops (but if you need printer: HP will be the best in my opinion
> choice).
> 
> Valeri

Our department is slowly leaving all those ad hoc printer solutions where
every senior or group have their own printer and are instead opting for a
"Eduprint" solution. Any printer problems will soon be somebody else's
problem.

I'm quite happy to leave all printing problems behind me.
Printers seem to be a never-ending source of problems...

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