Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7, systemd, NetworkMangler, oh, my

2017-02-15 Thread Gordon Messmer

On 02/14/2017 08:40 PM, Alice Wonder wrote:
Well CentOS 7 doesn't use that, and trying to figure out where in the 
mess of /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts the problem is occurring has 
caused me much frustration. 



DHCPv6 is really unusual.  IPv6 addressing and routing is set up almost 
entirely in the kernel, unless you're using static addresses.  IPv6 is 
neither harder nor easier with NetworkManager, in my experience.


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7, systemd, NetworkMangler, oh, my

2017-02-15 Thread John R Pierce

On 2/15/2017 12:04 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
DHCPv6 is really unusual.  IPv6 addressing and routing is set up 
almost entirely in the kernel, unless you're using static addresses.  
IPv6 is neither harder nor easier with NetworkManager, in my experience. 


It was my understanding that most ipv6 networks don't need DHCPv6, they 
normally self-configure with 'stateless address autoconfiguration', 
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2462.txt



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[CentOS] (re)build sssd-client.i686 for x86_64

2017-02-15 Thread Stijn De Weirdt
hi all,

i'm trying to rebuild the current sssd-client.i686 rpm that is part of
the x86_64 repo, but i fail to do so. rebuilding the sssd.src.rpm on
x86_64 does not produce this rpm.

i can rebuild sssd.src.rpm with --target=i686, but that sssd-client rpm
has conflicts and a whole bunch of i686 deps that the rpm from the
centos repo doesn't have.

tips/help welcome

stijn
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Re: [CentOS] (re)build sssd-client.i686 for x86_64

2017-02-15 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 02/15/2017 02:39 AM, Stijn De Weirdt wrote:
> hi all,
> 
> i'm trying to rebuild the current sssd-client.i686 rpm that is part of
> the x86_64 repo, but i fail to do so. rebuilding the sssd.src.rpm on
> x86_64 does not produce this rpm.
> 
> i can rebuild sssd.src.rpm with --target=i686, but that sssd-client rpm
> has conflicts and a whole bunch of i686 deps that the rpm from the
> centos repo doesn't have.
> 
> tips/help welcome

I'll assume CentOS-7 as you don't really say which version.  This works
for CentOS-6 as well though.

RHEL-7 does not contain a full i686 tree, only some of that tree in the
form of multilib packages.  However to BUILD those i686 packages, you
need a full i686 repo in your build system.

CentOS-7 does actually have an AltArch i686 SIG that produces a fully
installable i686 arch.  You could use this arch and mock to build i686
packages on an x86_64 CentOS-7 machine.

You always want to build SRPMs in mock instead of using rpmbuild on a
normal system because when building the configure files look for things
to link against .. if it finds extra things installed on your system
(like desktop files or extra repository packages) it can link against
those files and then require things you don't want.  Mock creates a
separate minimal chroot and adds only requirements of the specific SRPM
to that minimal root.  The RPMs produced are then only linked against
that very controlled build root.

There are mock configs for both CentOS-6 i386 and CentOS-7 i386 that
will work to build packages in mock and use the CentOS Base and Updates
repos by default.

You can also see all the mock configs we use on CentOS-7 here:

https://git.centos.org/tree/sig-core!bld-seven.git/37012c4fe4f69aa649fdb3e9b1ec002aafd2054f/mock






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Re: [CentOS] (re)build sssd-client.i686 for x86_64

2017-02-15 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 02/15/2017 03:41 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 02/15/2017 02:39 AM, Stijn De Weirdt wrote:
>> hi all,
>>
>> i'm trying to rebuild the current sssd-client.i686 rpm that is part of
>> the x86_64 repo, but i fail to do so. rebuilding the sssd.src.rpm on
>> x86_64 does not produce this rpm.
>>
>> i can rebuild sssd.src.rpm with --target=i686, but that sssd-client rpm
>> has conflicts and a whole bunch of i686 deps that the rpm from the
>> centos repo doesn't have.
>>
>> tips/help welcome
> 
> I'll assume CentOS-7 as you don't really say which version.  This works
> for CentOS-6 as well though.
> 
> RHEL-7 does not contain a full i686 tree, only some of that tree in the
> form of multilib packages.  However to BUILD those i686 packages, you
> need a full i686 repo in your build system.
> 
> CentOS-7 does actually have an AltArch i686 SIG that produces a fully
> installable i686 arch.  You could use this arch and mock to build i686
> packages on an x86_64 CentOS-7 machine.
> 
> You always want to build SRPMs in mock instead of using rpmbuild on a
> normal system because when building the configure files look for things
> to link against .. if it finds extra things installed on your system
> (like desktop files or extra repository packages) it can link against
> those files and then require things you don't want.  Mock creates a
> separate minimal chroot and adds only requirements of the specific SRPM
> to that minimal root.  The RPMs produced are then only linked against
> that very controlled build root.
> 
> There are mock configs for both CentOS-6 i386 and CentOS-7 i386 that
> will work to build packages in mock and use the CentOS Base and Updates
> repos by default.
> 
> You can also see all the mock configs we use on CentOS-7 here:
> 
> https://git.centos.org/tree/sig-core!bld-seven.git/37012c4fe4f69aa649fdb3e9b1ec002aafd2054f/mock

I forgot to say that we have a mock in centos extras for CentOS-7.  You
can get it with:

yum install mock




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Re: [CentOS] (re)build sssd-client.i686 for x86_64

2017-02-15 Thread Andreas Benzler

Johnny,

https://git.centos.org/blob/sig-core!
bld-seven.git/37012c4fe4f69aa649fdb3e9b1ec002aafd2054f/mock!
c7-epel-i686.cfg

needs update to 1611

Sincerely

Andy

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Re: [CentOS] (re)build sssd-client.i686 for x86_64

2017-02-15 Thread Stijn De Weirdt
hi johnny,

apologies, yes this is centos7 on x86_64.

i had to set PKGCONFIG_DIR, but that looked like the only thing.

i'll give mock a try and see what comes out.

thanks a lot

stijn

On 02/15/2017 10:44 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 02/15/2017 03:41 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>> On 02/15/2017 02:39 AM, Stijn De Weirdt wrote:
>>> hi all,
>>>
>>> i'm trying to rebuild the current sssd-client.i686 rpm that is part of
>>> the x86_64 repo, but i fail to do so. rebuilding the sssd.src.rpm on
>>> x86_64 does not produce this rpm.
>>>
>>> i can rebuild sssd.src.rpm with --target=i686, but that sssd-client rpm
>>> has conflicts and a whole bunch of i686 deps that the rpm from the
>>> centos repo doesn't have.
>>>
>>> tips/help welcome
>>
>> I'll assume CentOS-7 as you don't really say which version.  This works
>> for CentOS-6 as well though.
>>
>> RHEL-7 does not contain a full i686 tree, only some of that tree in the
>> form of multilib packages.  However to BUILD those i686 packages, you
>> need a full i686 repo in your build system.
>>
>> CentOS-7 does actually have an AltArch i686 SIG that produces a fully
>> installable i686 arch.  You could use this arch and mock to build i686
>> packages on an x86_64 CentOS-7 machine.
>>
>> You always want to build SRPMs in mock instead of using rpmbuild on a
>> normal system because when building the configure files look for things
>> to link against .. if it finds extra things installed on your system
>> (like desktop files or extra repository packages) it can link against
>> those files and then require things you don't want.  Mock creates a
>> separate minimal chroot and adds only requirements of the specific SRPM
>> to that minimal root.  The RPMs produced are then only linked against
>> that very controlled build root.
>>
>> There are mock configs for both CentOS-6 i386 and CentOS-7 i386 that
>> will work to build packages in mock and use the CentOS Base and Updates
>> repos by default.
>>
>> You can also see all the mock configs we use on CentOS-7 here:
>>
>> https://git.centos.org/tree/sig-core!bld-seven.git/37012c4fe4f69aa649fdb3e9b1ec002aafd2054f/mock
> 
> I forgot to say that we have a mock in centos extras for CentOS-7.  You
> can get it with:
> 
> yum install mock
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [CentOS] Problems with latest Firefox update -- can't install new extensions

2017-02-15 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 02/12/2017 03:15 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> Since the latest Firefox update to 45.7.0 on my CentOS 6.8 system, I can
> no longer install add-ons/extensions. Things LOOK like they're working
> but the extensions don't get stored in my normal area and they don't
> appear in my Add-Ons menu. Is anyone else having this issue?
> 
> It has been a while since I added any new extensions so I can't say WHEN
> exactly this problem happened but  :(

I don't have any CentOS-6 desktops anymore, but I did a desktop install
into a VM and installed firefox and the flash plugin from adobe.. seemed
to work OK.

I also installed firessh extension as a test.  That also worked fine.
This extension was installed in my home directory under:

/.mozilla/extensions/








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[CentOS] vsftp problem C7

2017-02-15 Thread Alessandro Baggi

Hi list,
I've a problem with vsftpd on C7.3. This is a dedicated server protected 
by a Zywall5. SELINUX is disabled.


This is my vsftpd configuration:

anonymous_enable=NO
local_enable=YES
write_enable=YES
local_umask=022
dirmessage_enable=YES
xferlog_enable=YES
connect_from_port_20=YES
xferlog_file=/var/log/vsftpd.log
xferlog_std_format=YES
idle_session_timeout=600
data_connection_timeout=120
ftpd_banner=Welcome
listen=YES
listen_port=21
pasv_enable=YES
pasv_min_port=5
pasv_max_port=50100
pasv_address=public-ip
port_enable=YES
pasv_addr_resolve=NO
listen_ipv6=NO
pam_service_name=vsftpd
userlist_enable=YES
tcp_wrappers=YES


Connecting from localhost to the local ip with ftp command, I've no 
problems.

If I try to connect from remote host to the ftp server I got some problems.

Connecting from my workstation I can log in with user and pwd but when 
listing I get:


230 Login successful.
Remote system type is UNIX.
Using binary mode to transfer files.
ftp> ls
227 Entering Passive Mode (188,213,172,158,206,207)
ftp: connect: Connection refused
ftp>

Seems to be a firewall (zywall5) problem. On server firewalld is 
disabled and there are not iptables rules.



So I've open port 20,21,5:50100 from my ip to server ip. The problem 
persists.


I've tried to open all ports (Using Any TCP and Any UDP) but the problem 
persists.



I've tried with another local server with the same vsftpd configuration 
and I've reproduced the problem by closing all ports with iptables. I 
get the same messages but after enabling specified ports with iptables 
on server the issue is solved.



How I can solve this issue on remote server?

THanks in advance.

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Re: [CentOS] vsftp problem C7

2017-02-15 Thread Alessandro Baggi

Hi list,
I've an update:

I've changed listen_port from 21 to 10021 restarted again vsftpd and 
problem is solved.


I can't understand whats happened.


Any ideas?


Il 15/02/2017 13:37, Alessandro Baggi ha scritto:

Hi list,
I've a problem with vsftpd on C7.3. This is a dedicated server protected
by a Zywall5. SELINUX is disabled.

This is my vsftpd configuration:

anonymous_enable=NO
local_enable=YES
write_enable=YES
local_umask=022
dirmessage_enable=YES
xferlog_enable=YES
connect_from_port_20=YES
xferlog_file=/var/log/vsftpd.log
xferlog_std_format=YES
idle_session_timeout=600
data_connection_timeout=120
ftpd_banner=Welcome
listen=YES
listen_port=21
pasv_enable=YES
pasv_min_port=5
pasv_max_port=50100
pasv_address=public-ip
port_enable=YES
pasv_addr_resolve=NO
listen_ipv6=NO
pam_service_name=vsftpd
userlist_enable=YES
tcp_wrappers=YES


Connecting from localhost to the local ip with ftp command, I've no
problems.
If I try to connect from remote host to the ftp server I got some problems.

Connecting from my workstation I can log in with user and pwd but when
listing I get:

230 Login successful.
Remote system type is UNIX.
Using binary mode to transfer files.
ftp> ls
227 Entering Passive Mode (188,213,172,158,206,207)
ftp: connect: Connection refused
ftp>

Seems to be a firewall (zywall5) problem. On server firewalld is
disabled and there are not iptables rules.


So I've open port 20,21,5:50100 from my ip to server ip. The problem
persists.

I've tried to open all ports (Using Any TCP and Any UDP) but the problem
persists.


I've tried with another local server with the same vsftpd configuration
and I've reproduced the problem by closing all ports with iptables. I
get the same messages but after enabling specified ports with iptables
on server the issue is solved.


How I can solve this issue on remote server?

THanks in advance.



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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7, systemd, NetworkMangler, oh, my

2017-02-15 Thread Leroy Tennison
Too much temptation to resist, I don't know which one of us is older but I have 
a feeling it's a "horse race".  Like you, I still have a land line, WiFi is too 
slow and "WiFi security" seems to be an oxymoronic phrase.  Why people text (or 
IM for that matter) anything other than a one-liner is beyond me.

Now for the real issue, what happens when Network Manager (Systemd, journald, 
etc.) breaks?  Who is going to fix it?  Hiding the complexity in software 
effectively dumbs us down leaving us helpless when problems surface.  Anyone 
who has worked with Microsoft understands - give me the command prompt any day 
rather than layers of GUI hiding those possibly cryptic but also possibly 
useful messages.

- Original Message -
From: "m roth" 
To: "CentOS mailing list" 
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 10:07:55 AM
Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7, systemd, NetworkMangler, oh, my

Johnny Hughes wrote:

> I get it .. but no one needed a hand held cell phone before 1973 and no
> one needed a smart phone before 2007.  Now, almost everyone has a smart
> cell and land lines are dying.  Technology moves forward.  People want
> integrated cloud, container, SDN technology, etc.  Used a VCR or
> Cassette Player lately?

I have no intention of *ever* getting an annoyaphone - I'm online all day
at work, before I go to work, and most evenings, in front of a *real*
computer. My cell's a flipphone, and I *LOATHE* texts... because the
protocol was developed for freakin' pagers, and after a job 20 years ago,
I don't EVER want that again.

And my land line phone has *much* better voice quality than any cell/mobile.*

And yes, I very happily have my VCR, for all the tapes I have, and a good
dual cassette deck (OK, I do want to burn them to disk... along with my
200-300 vinyl records...oh, that's right, vinyl's coming back. 

  mark, who's older than a lot of you

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7, systemd, NetworkMangler, oh, my

2017-02-15 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 02/15/2017 07:34 AM, Leroy Tennison wrote:
> Too much temptation to resist, I don't know which one of us is older but I 
> have a feeling it's a "horse race".  Like you, I still have a land line, WiFi 
> is too slow and "WiFi security" seems to be an oxymoronic phrase.  Why people 
> text (or IM for that matter) anything other than a one-liner is beyond me.
> 
> Now for the real issue, what happens when Network Manager (Systemd, journald, 
> etc.) breaks?  Who is going to fix it?  Hiding the complexity in software 
> effectively dumbs us down leaving us helpless when problems surface.  Anyone 
> who has worked with Microsoft understands - give me the command prompt any 
> day rather than layers of GUI hiding those possibly cryptic but also possibly 
> useful messages.
>

The people who are going to fix it are people who have RHCE certs and/or
computer science degrees who work for the companies running Linux.

And I am a few years old myself.

> - Original Message -
> From: "m roth" 
> To: "CentOS mailing list" 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 10:07:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7, systemd, NetworkMangler, oh, my
> 
> Johnny Hughes wrote:
> 
>> I get it .. but no one needed a hand held cell phone before 1973 and no
>> one needed a smart phone before 2007.  Now, almost everyone has a smart
>> cell and land lines are dying.  Technology moves forward.  People want
>> integrated cloud, container, SDN technology, etc.  Used a VCR or
>> Cassette Player lately?
> 
> I have no intention of *ever* getting an annoyaphone - I'm online all day
> at work, before I go to work, and most evenings, in front of a *real*
> computer. My cell's a flipphone, and I *LOATHE* texts... because the
> protocol was developed for freakin' pagers, and after a job 20 years ago,
> I don't EVER want that again.
> 
> And my land line phone has *much* better voice quality than any cell/mobile.*
> 
> And yes, I very happily have my VCR, for all the tapes I have, and a good
> dual cassette deck (OK, I do want to burn them to disk... along with my
> 200-300 vinyl records...oh, that's right, vinyl's coming back. 
> 




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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7, systemd, NetworkMangler, oh, my

2017-02-15 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Gordon Messmer  said:
> DHCPv6 is really unusual.  IPv6 addressing and routing is set up
> almost entirely in the kernel, unless you're using static addresses.
> IPv6 is neither harder nor easier with NetworkManager, in my
> experience.

Not sure about the version in CentOS, but in Fedora, NM disables kernel
IPv6 autoconfiguration and "handles" it itself.  This means that when I
wake up my desktop from sleep, it can take 10-60 seconds to get working
IPv6 (vs. the second or so it took the kernel).  Progress...

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[CentOS] SOLVED - Re: Centos7 and old Bind bug

2017-02-15 Thread Robert Moskowitz

Thanks Gordon...

On 02/12/2017 03:15 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
On 02/12/2017 10:56 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:  >>> It's probably safe to specify some range of higher numbered >>> 
ports: >>> >>> use-v4-udp-ports { range 10240 65535; }; use-v6-udp-ports 
{ range >>> 10240 65535; }; >> >> But that is not the ports that I am 
seeing in logwatch: > > > Yes, I know.  The work-around in the bug 
report specifies which ports > to exclude, but it doesn't include some 
of the ports you saw in your > logs, so it won't solve the problem 
entirely.  If you instead specify > the ports that are allowed, and use 
a higher range of ports, the > work-around should be more reliable.


No more port messages in logwatch.

Now to learn about GeoIP and what all those failures are that show up in 
logwatch!




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[CentOS] Unable to see Desktop folder and file

2017-02-15 Thread MOHD HOMAIDUR RAHMAN
Dear Cent OS User

Today my Mendeley Reference Manager was crash. To recover freshly I deleted
Mendeley file from my system from two place, 1) from share folder and 2)
from cache folder by using this command.

Copy from history

  730  ls -a
  731  cd .Mendeley\ Desktop/
  732  ls
  733  ll
  734  cd ../
  735  mv .Mendeley\ Desktop/ mendelyDestop
  736  ll
  737  rm -rf mendelyDestop
  738  locate Mende
  739  rm -rf /home/chinmai/.local/share/data/Mendeley Ltd./Mendeley
Desktop/Downloaded*
  740  locate Mende
  741  rm -rf /home/chinmai/.local/share/data/Mendeley Ltd./Mendeley
Desktop*
  742  locate Mende
  743  clear
  744  locate Mende
  745  rm -rf /home/chinmai/.local/share/data/Mendeley Ltd./Mendeley
Desktop/www.mendeley.com/rajanik...@gmail.com-1a4c
  746  rm -rf /home/chinmai/.local/share/data/Mendeley Ltd./Mendeley
Desktop/www.mendeley.com/*
  747  locate Mende
  748  df -h
  749  cd .local/share/data
  750  ll
  751  rm -rf Mendeley\ Ltd./
  752  ll
  753  locate Mende
  754  cd ../
  755  ls -a
  756  cd .cache/
  757  ll
  758  rm -rf Mendeley\ Ltd./
  759  ll
  760  top
  761  clear
  762  ls
  763  cd
  764  ls -a
  765  cd .local/share/
  766  ll
  767  cd
  768  cd .cache/
  769  ll

After deletion, my Mendeley start working but my all folder and file from
Desktop are missing.
When I am locating the file and folder from desktop it showing their name
but I ma unable to see that file or folder.

Any guidance regarding how to recover is very helpful to me.

Thanks & regards
Rahman


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7, systemd, NetworkMangler, oh, my

2017-02-15 Thread Gordon Messmer

On 02/15/2017 12:23 AM, John R Pierce wrote:
DHCPv6 is really unusual.  IPv6 addressing and routing is set up 
almost entirely in the kernel, unless you're using static addresses.  
IPv6 is neither harder nor easier with NetworkManager, in my experience. 


It was my understanding that most ipv6 networks don't need DHCPv6, 
they normally self-configure



Yes, that's what I was saying. :)

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7, systemd, NetworkMangler, oh, my

2017-02-15 Thread Robert Nichols

On 02/15/2017 07:41 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:

On 02/15/2017 07:34 AM, Leroy Tennison wrote:

Too much temptation to resist, I don't know which one of us is older but I have a feeling it's a 
"horse race".  Like you, I still have a land line, WiFi is too slow and "WiFi 
security" seems to be an oxymoronic phrase.  Why people text (or IM for that matter) anything 
other than a one-liner is beyond me.

Now for the real issue, what happens when Network Manager (Systemd, journald, 
etc.) breaks?  Who is going to fix it?  Hiding the complexity in software 
effectively dumbs us down leaving us helpless when problems surface.  Anyone 
who has worked with Microsoft understands - give me the command prompt any day 
rather than layers of GUI hiding those possibly cryptic but also possibly 
useful messages.



The people who are going to fix it are people who have RHCE certs and/or
computer science degrees who work for the companies running Linux.


Thank you for agreeing that systemd is not suitable for use outside of an 
organization that employs such people.

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Bob Nichols "NOSPAM" is really part of my email address.
Do NOT delete it.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7, systemd, NetworkMangler, oh, my

2017-02-15 Thread Valeri Galtsev

On Wed, February 15, 2017 7:34 am, Leroy Tennison wrote:
> Too much temptation to resist, I don't know which one of us is older but I
> have a feeling it's a "horse race".  Like you, I still have a land line,
> WiFi is too slow and "WiFi security" seems to be an oxymoronic phrase.
> Why people text (or IM for that matter) anything other than a one-liner is
> beyond me.
>
> Now for the real issue, what happens when Network Manager (Systemd,
> journald, etc.) breaks?  Who is going to fix it?  Hiding the complexity in
> software effectively dumbs us down leaving us helpless when problems
> surface.  Anyone who has worked with Microsoft understands - give me the
> command prompt any day rather than layers of GUI hiding those possibly
> cryptic but also possibly useful messages.

Yes, stepping up to CentOS 7 reminded me MacOS Server which I had to help
my Professor to maintain. For the most part it (MacOS Server) worked and
all was self evident, but when it doesn't you finally have to open their
huge doc book just to discover that it merely explains you mostly in
pictures how to navigate through their GUI menus. And each of them ended
with something like "and you are done". No descriptions of errors and what
to do when one occurs. Because of which (unexpected errors) we actually
opened documentation. (Then we finally agreed that no matter how huge the
book is, documentation does not exist). My start with CentOS 7 to some
extent reminded me this MacOS Server experience ;-) No, not ansence of
documentation, but the attitude to make everybody use GUI. Exactly as you
notice. I bet many users were lost by Linux then...

Valeri

>
> - Original Message -
> From: "m roth" 
> To: "CentOS mailing list" 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 10:07:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7, systemd, NetworkMangler, oh, my
>
> Johnny Hughes wrote:
> 
>> I get it .. but no one needed a hand held cell phone before 1973 and no
>> one needed a smart phone before 2007.  Now, almost everyone has a smart
>> cell and land lines are dying.  Technology moves forward.  People want
>> integrated cloud, container, SDN technology, etc.  Used a VCR or
>> Cassette Player lately?
>
> I have no intention of *ever* getting an annoyaphone - I'm online all day
> at work, before I go to work, and most evenings, in front of a *real*
> computer. My cell's a flipphone, and I *LOATHE* texts... because the
> protocol was developed for freakin' pagers, and after a job 20 years ago,
> I don't EVER want that again.
>
> And my land line phone has *much* better voice quality than any
> cell/mobile.*
>
> And yes, I very happily have my VCR, for all the tapes I have, and a good
> dual cassette deck (OK, I do want to burn them to disk... along with my
> 200-300 vinyl records...oh, that's right, vinyl's coming back. 
>
>   mark, who's older than a lot of you
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7, systemd, NetworkMangler, oh, my

2017-02-15 Thread m . roth
Robert Nichols wrote:
> On 02/15/2017 07:41 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>> On 02/15/2017 07:34 AM, Leroy Tennison wrote:
>>> Too much temptation to resist, I don't know which one of us is older
>>> but I have a feeling it's a "horse race".  Like you, I still have a
>>> land line, WiFi is too slow and "WiFi security" seems to be an
>>> oxymoronic phrase.  Why people text (or IM for that matter) anything
>>> other than a one-liner is beyond me.
>>>
>>> Now for the real issue, what happens when Network Manager (Systemd,
>>> journald, etc.) breaks?  Who is going to fix it?  Hiding the complexity
>>> in software effectively dumbs us down leaving us helpless when problems
>>> surface.  Anyone who has worked with Microsoft understands - give me
>>> the command prompt any day rather than layers of GUI hiding those
>>> possibly cryptic but also possibly useful messages.
>>
>> The people who are going to fix it are people who have RHCE certs and/or
>> computer science degrees who work for the companies running Linux.
>
> Thank you for agreeing that systemd is not suitable for use outside of an
> organization that employs such people.
>
'Fraid I have a lot of sympathy with Robert. When something here breaks,
we - me, the other admin, and our manager - are the ones who have to
figure it out asap. We do have a few RH licenses... but even so, even if
we *were* paying for a 4-hr response, that's not soon enough

  mark "I have enough problems with user teams that have *multiple*
levels
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Re: [CentOS] Serious attack vector on pkcheck ignored by Red Hat

2017-02-15 Thread Leonard den Ottolander
Hello Warren,

On Thu, 2017-02-09 at 15:27 -0700, Warren Young wrote:
> So you’ve now sprayed the heap on this system, but you can’t upload
> anything else to it because noexec, so…now what?  What has our
> nefarious attacker gained?

So the heap is set with data provided by the (local) attacker who could
initialize it to his liking using either of the two memory leaks in the
options parsing.

The heap, that is entirely under the control of the attacker, now
contains a call to a library with parameters such that it invokes a zero
day kernel escalation privilege exploit. And now the exploit will run
because pkcheck allowed the attacker to initialize its entire heap via
the command line.

Had the two memory leaks in the pkcheck options parsing been fixed the
attacker should have looked for another path to leverage his zero day.

So the mere fact that an untrusted user is able to massage the heap of a
binary (pkcheck in this case) to run whatever code he wants is a serious
attack vector and thus those two memory leaks should be fixed. Because
they allow bad people to leverage attacks with much more ease.

Regards,
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7, systemd, NetworkMangler, oh, my

2017-02-15 Thread John Hodrien

On Wed, 15 Feb 2017, Valeri Galtsev wrote:


My start with CentOS 7 to some extent reminded me this MacOS Server
experience ;-) No, not ansence of documentation, but the attitude to make
everybody use GUI. Exactly as you notice. I bet many users were lost by
Linux then...


Sometimes on this list I get the impression that I've downloaded an entirely
different release of CentOS 7 to other people.

Exactly what GUI do you ever have to use with CentOS7?  systemd all in has
caused me remarkably little bother, getting on and doing what it's told.  I
had some logind glitches, but those were fixable.  I configure the lot with
puppet, and to be honest found C7 pretty pain free as an upgrade.  For various
reasons, real happiness didn't arrive until 7.2, but then lots of that was due
to nvidia driver behaviours with Gnome3 that I suspect most people don't have
to worry about.

But complaining that CentOS 7 is GUI driven I find baffling.

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Re: [CentOS] Serious attack vector on pkcheck ignored by Red Hat

2017-02-15 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 02/15/2017 09:37 AM, Leonard den Ottolander wrote:
> Hello Warren,
> 
> On Thu, 2017-02-09 at 15:27 -0700, Warren Young wrote:
>> So you’ve now sprayed the heap on this system, but you can’t upload
>> anything else to it because noexec, so…now what?  What has our
>> nefarious attacker gained?
> 
> So the heap is set with data provided by the (local) attacker who could
> initialize it to his liking using either of the two memory leaks in the
> options parsing.
> 
> The heap, that is entirely under the control of the attacker, now
> contains a call to a library with parameters such that it invokes a zero
> day kernel escalation privilege exploit. And now the exploit will run
> because pkcheck allowed the attacker to initialize its entire heap via
> the command line.
> 
> Had the two memory leaks in the pkcheck options parsing been fixed the
> attacker should have looked for another path to leverage his zero day.
> 
> So the mere fact that an untrusted user is able to massage the heap of a
> binary (pkcheck in this case) to run whatever code he wants is a serious
> attack vector and thus those two memory leaks should be fixed. Because
> they allow bad people to leverage attacks with much more ease.
> 

What people are trying to point out to you is:

1.  The 'user' that the 'atacker' can run things as is themselves .. AND

2.  They already have shell access on the machine in question and they
can already run anything in that shell that they can run via what you
are pointing out.

3.  If they have access to a zeroday issue that give them root .. they
can just use that via their shell that they already have (that you gave
them, which they are using) to get root .. they therefore don't need to
use this issue at all.



All of that said, all memory leaks (and any other bugs) should be fixed.

It is just NOT a major security issue.



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Re: [CentOS] Serious attack vector on pkcheck ignored by Red Hat

2017-02-15 Thread Leonard den Ottolander
Hello Johnny,

On Wed, 2017-02-15 at 09:47 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> 2.  They already have shell access on the machine in question and they
> can already run anything in that shell that they can run via what you
> are pointing out.

No, assuming noexec /home mounts all they can run is system binaries.

> 3.  If they have access to a zeroday issue that give them root .. they
> can just use that via their shell that they already have (that you gave
> them, which they are using) to get root .. they therefore don't need to
> use this issue at all.

No, assuming noexec /home mounts all they have to leverage a zero day
are system binaries. pkcheck to the rescue.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7, systemd, NetworkMangler, oh, my

2017-02-15 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 02/15/2017 09:45 AM, John Hodrien wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Feb 2017, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> 
>> My start with CentOS 7 to some extent reminded me this MacOS Server
>> experience ;-) No, not ansence of documentation, but the attitude to make
>> everybody use GUI. Exactly as you notice. I bet many users were lost by
>> Linux then...
> 
> Sometimes on this list I get the impression that I've downloaded an
> entirely
> different release of CentOS 7 to other people.
> 
> Exactly what GUI do you ever have to use with CentOS7?  systemd all in has
> caused me remarkably little bother, getting on and doing what it's told.  I
> had some logind glitches, but those were fixable.  I configure the lot with
> puppet, and to be honest found C7 pretty pain free as an upgrade.  For
> various
> reasons, real happiness didn't arrive until 7.2, but then lots of that
> was due
> to nvidia driver behaviours with Gnome3 that I suspect most people don't
> have
> to worry about.
> 
> But complaining that CentOS 7 is GUI driven I find baffling.
>

Exactly.

If I install CentOS-7 on a desktop, I use gui things.  If I install
CentOS-7 on a server, I never install gui things (unless I am doing for
someone who specifically asks for that).

nmcli allows you to do anything you would do in a NM GUI.

But the real bottom line is .. this is not the place where any of that
could be changed anyway.  CentOS is a rebuild of RHEL source code .. if
RHEL does it, so do we.

The other thing is .. CentOS-6 has security support until 30 Nov 2020,
so no one has to upgrade to CentOS-7 or systemd for 3.75 more years.  If
you like the older things, use CentOS-6.  If you want the new things,
use CentOS-7.




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Re: [CentOS] Serious attack vector on pkcheck ignored by Red Hat

2017-02-15 Thread m . roth
Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 02/15/2017 09:37 AM, Leonard den Ottolander wrote:
>> On Thu, 2017-02-09 at 15:27 -0700, Warren Young wrote:
>>> So you’ve now sprayed the heap on this system, but you can’t upload
anything else to it because noexec, so…now what?  What has our
nefarious attacker gained?
>>
>> So the heap is set with data provided by the (local) attacker who could
initialize it to his liking using either of the two memory leaks in the
options parsing.
>>
>> The heap, that is entirely under the control of the attacker, now
contains a call to a library with parameters such that it invokes a
zero day kernel escalation privilege exploit. And now the exploit will
run because pkcheck allowed the attacker to initialize its entire heap
via the command line.

I've skipped most of this thread, but went through this post, and excuse
me if this sounds like a stupid question... but when the attacker runs
their job, isn't it *THEIR* heap, one allocated for this PID, and not any
other, such as the heap allocated for PID 1?

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Re: [CentOS] Serious attack vector on pkcheck ignored by Red Hat

2017-02-15 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Leonard den Ottolander  said:
> On Wed, 2017-02-15 at 09:47 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> > 2.  They already have shell access on the machine in question and they
> > can already run anything in that shell that they can run via what you
> > are pointing out.
> 
> No, assuming noexec /home mounts all they can run is system binaries.

noexec is not that big of a protection.  On a normal CentOS system, you
almost certainly have python installed (as well as likely other
scripting languages such as perl), and they can be used to do just about
anything compiled code can do.

Plus there's /tmp, /var/tmp, and other directories (depending on
software installed) that are writable by users, so unless you mount
something noexec on all of them, you haven't gained much.

noexec is largely a legacy option at this point.
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Re: [CentOS] (re)build sssd-client.i686 for x86_64

2017-02-15 Thread Stijn De Weirdt
hi all,

building with mock was pretty easy (esp easier then figuring out what
build deps were required ;)

anyway, for this specific case, following things needed to be taken in
account:
* do not copy all i686 rpms with the x86_64 ones in a single repo; was a
huge mess. i ended up with same rpms that centos has in the x86_64 repo
(sssd-client and some of the libsss rpms)
* i was unable to mix the x86_64 copr sssd rpms with self build i686
ones. once i also rebuild the x86_64 ones, things worked out (wrt
manpage conflicts)

anyway, thanks a lot for the explanation!

stijn

On 02/15/2017 11:10 AM, Stijn De Weirdt wrote:
> hi johnny,
> 
> apologies, yes this is centos7 on x86_64.
> 
> i had to set PKGCONFIG_DIR, but that looked like the only thing.
> 
> i'll give mock a try and see what comes out.
> 
> thanks a lot
> 
> stijn
> 
> On 02/15/2017 10:44 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>> On 02/15/2017 03:41 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>>> On 02/15/2017 02:39 AM, Stijn De Weirdt wrote:
 hi all,

 i'm trying to rebuild the current sssd-client.i686 rpm that is part of
 the x86_64 repo, but i fail to do so. rebuilding the sssd.src.rpm on
 x86_64 does not produce this rpm.

 i can rebuild sssd.src.rpm with --target=i686, but that sssd-client rpm
 has conflicts and a whole bunch of i686 deps that the rpm from the
 centos repo doesn't have.

 tips/help welcome
>>>
>>> I'll assume CentOS-7 as you don't really say which version.  This works
>>> for CentOS-6 as well though.
>>>
>>> RHEL-7 does not contain a full i686 tree, only some of that tree in the
>>> form of multilib packages.  However to BUILD those i686 packages, you
>>> need a full i686 repo in your build system.
>>>
>>> CentOS-7 does actually have an AltArch i686 SIG that produces a fully
>>> installable i686 arch.  You could use this arch and mock to build i686
>>> packages on an x86_64 CentOS-7 machine.
>>>
>>> You always want to build SRPMs in mock instead of using rpmbuild on a
>>> normal system because when building the configure files look for things
>>> to link against .. if it finds extra things installed on your system
>>> (like desktop files or extra repository packages) it can link against
>>> those files and then require things you don't want.  Mock creates a
>>> separate minimal chroot and adds only requirements of the specific SRPM
>>> to that minimal root.  The RPMs produced are then only linked against
>>> that very controlled build root.
>>>
>>> There are mock configs for both CentOS-6 i386 and CentOS-7 i386 that
>>> will work to build packages in mock and use the CentOS Base and Updates
>>> repos by default.
>>>
>>> You can also see all the mock configs we use on CentOS-7 here:
>>>
>>> https://git.centos.org/tree/sig-core!bld-seven.git/37012c4fe4f69aa649fdb3e9b1ec002aafd2054f/mock
>>
>> I forgot to say that we have a mock in centos extras for CentOS-7.  You
>> can get it with:
>>
>> yum install mock
>>
>>
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7, systemd, NetworkMangler, oh, my

2017-02-15 Thread Always Learning

On Mon, 2017-02-13 at 16:49 +, James Hogarth wrote:



> On EL6 yes NM should be removed on anything but a wifi system but on
> EL7 unless you fall into a specific edge case as per the network docs:
> 
> https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html-single/Networking_Guide/index.html
> 
> you really should be using NM for a variety of reasons.
> 
> Incidentally Mark, this had nothing to do with systemd ... I wish you
> would pick your topics a little more appropriately rather than
> tempting the usual flames.

Mark actually gets his hands dirty running the systems (on C7). He has a
valid point which worries me - Red Hat's gradual imitation of Micro
$oft's aversion to ordinary people understanding and controlling their
systems.

Luckily some of us remain on C6 because we love simplicity and
stability. When C6 expires some will migrate to BSD rather than face
C7's persistent difficulties and confusion.


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Re: [CentOS] Serious attack vector on pkcheck ignored by Red Hat

2017-02-15 Thread Valeri Galtsev

On Wed, February 15, 2017 10:22 am, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Leonard den Ottolander  said:
>> On Wed, 2017-02-15 at 09:47 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>> > 2.  They already have shell access on the machine in question and they
>> > can already run anything in that shell that they can run via what you
>> > are pointing out.
>>
>> No, assuming noexec /home mounts all they can run is system binaries.
>
> noexec is not that big of a protection.  On a normal CentOS system, you
> almost certainly have python installed (as well as likely other
> scripting languages such as perl), and they can be used to do just about
> anything compiled code can do.

Indeed, perl and often python are installed on most of servers I run. Not
considering myself security expert, I would like to ask: could you point
to some elevation of privileges exploit written in perl or python? All
I've seen were c/c++, but again I'm just a humble sysadmin.

>
> Plus there's /tmp, /var/tmp, and other directories (depending on
> software installed) that are writable by users, so unless you mount
> something noexec on all of them, you haven't gained much.

And yes, ALL user writable places (including often overlooked /dev/shm)
are mounted with nosuid, nosgid, nodev, noexec options on servers where
users are allowed to have shell. Or you should be able to do something
like jail on FreeBSD which you dedicate to user shell login, and restrict
it the way you need - don't know off hand how you do it on Linux box,
experts will definitely name several ways.

Valeri

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> noexec is largely a legacy option at this point.
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7, systemd, NetworkMangler, oh, my

2017-02-15 Thread Always Learning

> Used a VCR or Cassette Player lately?

My VCR broke. Replaced it with a DVD/HDD & USB3 unit. Replaced cassette
player and tape recorders with broadcast quality handheld recorder
DR-100mk3 and an amazingly good Sony PX440.

Still retain the original functionality. C7 doesn't retain all the
original functionality :-)



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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7, systemd, NetworkMangler, oh, my

2017-02-15 Thread Always Learning

On Tue, 2017-02-14 at 20:40 -0800, Alice Wonder wrote:

> Why the bleep can't stuff like this be simple KISS with simple
> key=value 
> configuration files?

Amen. Its incredibly simple to understand and doesn't require a
doctorate in confused thinking !



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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7, systemd, NetworkMangler, oh, my

2017-02-15 Thread James Hogarth
On 15 Feb 2017 16:40, "Always Learning"  wrote:


On Mon, 2017-02-13 at 16:49 +, James Hogarth wrote:



> On EL6 yes NM should be removed on anything but a wifi system but on
> EL7 unless you fall into a specific edge case as per the network docs:
>
> https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_
Enterprise_Linux/7/html-single/Networking_Guide/index.html
>
> you really should be using NM for a variety of reasons.
>
> Incidentally Mark, this had nothing to do with systemd ... I wish you
> would pick your topics a little more appropriately rather than
> tempting the usual flames.

Mark actually gets his hands dirty running the systems (on C7). He has a
valid point which worries me - Red Hat's gradual imitation of Micro
$oft's aversion to ordinary people understanding and controlling their
systems.

Luckily some of us remain on C6 because we love simplicity and
stability. When C6 expires some will migrate to BSD rather than face
C7's persistent difficulties and confusion.


And no he doesn't have a point because that's nonsense

And course with the subject chosen this whole thread burned into flames
rather than being constructive

Can we just kill this now and if there is actually something wrong have a
fresh thread with diagnostics?
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7, systemd, NetworkMangler, oh, my

2017-02-15 Thread m . roth
Always Learning wrote:
>
>> Used a VCR or Cassette Player lately?
>
> My VCR broke. Replaced it with a DVD/HDD & USB3 unit. Replaced cassette
> player and tape recorders with broadcast quality handheld recorder
> DR-100mk3 and an amazingly good Sony PX440.

But how do you play all your old VCR tapes? As I said, I want to burn them
to disk, but I still have a working VCR.

   mark
>
> Still retain the original functionality. C7 doesn't retain all the
> original functionality :-)
>
>
>
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Re: [CentOS] Serious attack vector on pkcheck ignored by Red Hat

2017-02-15 Thread Gordon Messmer

On 02/15/2017 08:22 AM, Chris Adams wrote:

noexec is not that big of a protection.  On a normal CentOS system, you
almost certainly have python installed (as well as likely other
scripting languages such as perl), and they can be used to do just about
anything compiled code can do.



Exactly.  Since python is required by yum (and gettext, and 
systemd-sysv), it's nearly impossible to have a CentOS system without 
python.


Python, of course, includes the "ctypes" module, which allows you to 
load a shared object and call a C function with whatever arguments you 
choose.


You *absolutely* do not need a heap spraying attack in order to make 
arbitrary library or kernel calls.


Leonard, man... you've got let this go.  Users with shell access already 
have fairly broad permission to execute arbitrary code on the system 
they log in to.  The memory leak in pkcheck is *not* a security issue.  
It's just a bug.  *Everyone* is trying to tell you this, including the 
maintainers of CentOS, and (in your original bug report) the maintainers 
of RHEL.  The security bug you've used as a foundation for all of this 
was built on a SUID binary, which pkcheck is not.  What's it going to 
take for you to accept this?  Do you honestly think that you are better 
qualified than all of the maintainers and developers that are telling 
you that this isn't a security bug?


I really want to encourage you to stay involved as a community member.  
Free Software is a participation culture, and every contributor has the 
potential to make the entire system better, but participation is a 
two-way conversation.  You've got to learn to listen, as well.


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7, systemd, NetworkMangler, oh, my

2017-02-15 Thread Valeri Galtsev

On Wed, February 15, 2017 11:45 am, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> Always Learning wrote:
>>
>>> Used a VCR or Cassette Player lately?
>>
>> My VCR broke. Replaced it with a DVD/HDD & USB3 unit. Replaced cassette
>> player and tape recorders with broadcast quality handheld recorder
>> DR-100mk3 and an amazingly good Sony PX440.
>
> But how do you play all your old VCR tapes?

I converted my video tapes (the ones I taped myself, not movies I
purchased on tapes: the last just went to garbage, the law here does not
allow you to transfer purchased copyrighted videos to different carrier)
into DVDs (with poorer quality that VCR has).

What I needed was video card with video capture capability, and piece of
software. Confession: I did it in Windows (2000 probably), the card was
ATI Radeon (something), that had video (and audio) inputs and came with
capture software. You can find stand alone video capture box that you can
feed from VCR as well. once you have mpeg video files, it is trivial to
conver them to DVD structure. For that I used ffmpeg and dvdauthor (both
run on Linux on FreeBSD).

I hope this helps.

Valeri

> As I said, I want to burn them
> to disk, but I still have a working VCR.
>
>mark
>>
>> Still retain the original functionality. C7 doesn't retain all the
>> original functionality :-)
>>
>>
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Re: [CentOS] Serious attack vector on pkcheck ignored by Red Hat

2017-02-15 Thread Gordon Messmer

On 02/15/2017 08:47 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:

And yes, ALL user writable places (including often overlooked /dev/shm)
are mounted with nosuid, nosgid, nodev, noexec options on servers where
users are allowed to have shell.



How sure are you?  On the system I'm looking at right now, any user can 
write to:


/dev/mqueue
/dev/shm
/run/user/
/run/screen/S-
/var/spool/samba
/home/
/tmp
/var/tmp

Notably, the "screen" and "samba" locations only appear when the 
respective packages are installed, so the places users can write may 
vary from system to system.


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7, systemd, NetworkMangler, oh, my

2017-02-15 Thread John R Pierce

On 2/15/2017 9:45 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

But how do you play all your old VCR tapes? As I said, I want to burn them
to disk, but I still have a working VCR.


ugh, the video quality of VHS is *so* nasty, I don't WANT to play those 
old tapes any more.   I do have a still working Hi8 VCR I've used to 
convert some of our old camcorder tapes to digital (burned onto DVDs 
and/or converted to MP4 files), the quality on that was a good notch 
better than VHS, I connect the s-video output of the deck to a USB 
dongle (from Hauppauge), and run a pile of MS windows software to suck 
in the tape and convert the results to useful formats.


My old cassette deck (a Denon) is still plugged into my stereo, I don't 
think I've used it once in 10 years.


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[CentOS] Kickstart - part ignore onpart ??

2017-02-15 Thread Andreas Benzler
Hello Guys,

after hours of uncessfull create example before i forward special
parition tests.

part ignoe --onpart

But Installation hang out for parition the harddisk.

jump to another console partitions are ok ?

Which line/lines is/are missing?

Andy




#version=DEVEL
# System authorization information
auth --enableshadow --passalgo=sha512
# Use CDROM installation media
cdrom
# Use graphical install
graphical
# Run the Setup Agent on first boot
firstboot --enable
ignoredisk --only-use=sda
# Keyboard layouts
keyboard --vckeymap=de-nodeadkeys --xlayouts='de (nodeadkeys)'
# System language
lang de_DE.UTF-8

# Network information
network  --bootproto=dhcp --device=enp0s3 --ipv6=auto --no-activate
network  --hostname=localhost.localdomain

# Root password
rootpw --iscrypted $6$ZzmFRmN6XqC0.Mc4
$LVrBwcqgnv5kIU5mM8e424PDPD7P1dq342lIZrB9gVFzv6EzSRPTGfLyH/M4yf88iwUpOK/XidvqWiYVl8xcG1
# System services
services --enabled="chronyd"
# System timezone
timezone Europe/Berlin --isUtc
user --groups=wheel --name=andy --password=$6$gpkn155QMucNw0DC
$TUuSuPCe5NEdFyoF/e.bKzrEHvE7W5gyYqNMCmKbkdLIyUnq1qAD5A/.ax/r6DU1MspPnrUzpuWw7rEzOD9hM.
 --iscrypted --gecos="Andreas Benzler"
# System bootloader configuration
bootloader --append=" crashkernel=auto" --location=mbr --boot-drive=sda
# Disk partitioning information
part/boot   --onpart=/dev/sda1
part/   --onpart=/dev/sda2
partswap--onpart=/dev/sda3

selinux --disabled

%packages
@^minimal
@core
chrony
kexec-tools
%end

%pre
# clear the MBR and partition table
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1
parted -s /dev/sda mklabel msdos

TOTAL=`parted -s /dev/sda unit mb print free | grep Free | awk '{print
$3}' | cut -d "M" -f1`
let SWAP_START=$TOTAL-820
let ROOT_END=$TOTAL-128-820
parted -s /dev/sda mkpart primary ext2 0 128
parted -s /dev/sda mkpart primary ext2 128 $ROOT_END
parted -s /dev/sda mkpart primary linux-swap $SWAP_START $TOTAL

mkfs.ext2 /dev/sda1
mkfs.ext2 /dev/sda2
mkswap /dev/sda3

%end

%addon com_redhat_kdump --enable --reserve-mb='auto'

%end

%anaconda
pwpolicy root --minlen=6 --minquality=50 --notstrict --nochanges
--notempty
pwpolicy user --minlen=6 --minquality=50 --notstrict --nochanges
--notempty
pwpolicy luks --minlen=6 --minquality=50 --notstrict --nochanges
--notempty
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Re: [CentOS] Kickstart - part ignore onpart ??

2017-02-15 Thread John R Pierce

On 2/15/2017 11:04 AM, Andreas Benzler wrote:

after hours of uncessfull create example before i forward special
parition tests.

part ignoe --onpart

But Installation hang out for parition the harddisk.

jump to another console partitions are ok ?


There are an awful lot of typos in this email message, including the 
command you're saying you're using...   leads me to wonder if you're not 
making similar errors in what you're actually doing.



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Re: [CentOS] mach64 driver, latest update in CentOS 6.8, symbol lookup error

2017-02-15 Thread Styma, Robert (Nokia - US)
Opened bug 
Bug 1422622 at RedHat Bugzilla.


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Re: [CentOS] Serious attack vector on pkcheck ignored by Red Hat

2017-02-15 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Gordon Messmer  said:
> Leonard, man... you've got let this go.  Users with shell access
> already have fairly broad permission to execute arbitrary code on
> the system they log in to.  The memory leak in pkcheck is *not* a
> security issue.  It's just a bug.

Here's the other thing about it: you are saying it might could be
exploited in your setup (where other things maybe could not).  That's
potentially a problem, but it is not a problem in most anybody else's
setup (most definitely not the default setup, or alternate setups from
the Red Hat documentation).  Red Hat generally only devotes resources to
security issues in the default or documented setups; there have been
CVEs where they just say "this is outside any supported setup".

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Re: [CentOS] Serious attack vector on pkcheck ignored by Red Hat

2017-02-15 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Valeri Galtsev  said:
> Indeed, perl and often python are installed on most of servers I run. Not
> considering myself security expert, I would like to ask: could you point
> to some elevation of privileges exploit written in perl or python? All
> I've seen were c/c++, but again I'm just a humble sysadmin.

That wasn't the point; the point was that users can only run system
binaries so they can only do what is "permitted".  I don't know about
python, but perl can make arbitrary kernel system calls (even if they
aren't actually supported by perl), so having perl installed allows
users to do anything a compiled program can do.  Trying to control what
users can do by mounting "noexec" is not particularly limiting, at least
to somebody determined.

So it may be harder/more cumbersome/etc., but I believe that you could
write exploits in perl or python; it just isn't commonly done in
examples because of the extra work (it's also probably harder to read).

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Re: [CentOS] Kickstart - part ignore onpart ??

2017-02-15 Thread Andreas Benzler
I'm ill, i'm  german ...

the script is looks ok, copy from a slim installation of anaconda.
Insert only the "pre part" 

and 

part/boot   --onpart=/dev/sda1
part/   --onpart=/dev/sda2
partswap--onpart=/dev/sda3

As i wrote: Jump over to another console and the partitions are there.


Sincerely

Andy

Am Mittwoch, den 15.02.2017, 11:16 -0800 schrieb John R Pierce:
> On 2/15/2017 11:04 AM, Andreas Benzler wrote:
> > after hours of uncessfull create example before i forward special
> > parition tests.
> >
> > part ignoe --onpart
> >
> > But Installation hang out for parition the harddisk.
> >
> > jump to another console partitions are ok ?
> 
> There are an awful lot of typos in this email message, including the 
> command you're saying you're using...   leads me to wonder if you're not 
> making similar errors in what you're actually doing.
> 
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Re: [CentOS] Serious attack vector on pkcheck ignored by Red Hat

2017-02-15 Thread Valeri Galtsev

On Wed, February 15, 2017 1:29 pm, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Valeri Galtsev  said:
>> Indeed, perl and often python are installed on most of servers I run.
>> Not
>> considering myself security expert, I would like to ask: could you point
>> to some elevation of privileges exploit written in perl or python? All
>> I've seen were c/c++, but again I'm just a humble sysadmin.
>
> That wasn't the point; the point was that users can only run system
> binaries so they can only do what is "permitted".  I don't know about
> python, but perl can make arbitrary kernel system calls (even if they
> aren't actually supported by perl), so having perl installed allows
> users to do anything a compiled program can do.  Trying to control what
> users can do by mounting "noexec" is not particularly limiting, at least
> to somebody determined.

Thanks for answering. Well, I have seen attempts on my systems, more than
once, and they were unsuccessful, as all user writable on these two
machines was mounted noexec (and also nosuid, nosgid, nodev). Of course,
systems didn't have unpatched known exploits, here we are on the same
page: you have to keep your system updated. So they shouldn't be
successful even if they were executed. Still, noexec is like yet one more
line of defense. Pretty much like we lock front doors of our buildings,
even though we do lock doors of our apartments. Or the same as having
firewall, even though you don't have anything listening to some ports
which is not supposed to. I kind of was repeated too many times by many
people in my life that there is no overdoing when the security is
concerned.

Valeri

>
> So it may be harder/more cumbersome/etc., but I believe that you could
> write exploits in perl or python; it just isn't commonly done in
> examples because of the extra work (it's also probably harder to read).
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Re: [CentOS] Serious attack vector on pkcheck ignored by Red Hat

2017-02-15 Thread Valeri Galtsev

On Wed, February 15, 2017 12:23 pm, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> On 02/15/2017 08:47 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> And yes, ALL user writable places (including often overlooked /dev/shm)
>> are mounted with nosuid, nosgid, nodev, noexec options on servers where
>> users are allowed to have shell.
>
>
> How sure are you?

I just run a bunch of find commands before rolling out system to find what
I might not like, e.g. finding all world writable files...:

find / -perm -2 ! -type l -ls
...

> On the system I'm looking at right now

Oh, yes, I must confess, I do not tighten up latest Linuxes, my machines
that do need this level of attitude to users are FreeBSD since long ago.
The last Linuxes that needed that were CentOS 5, so logically, you are
right again. And on CentOS 5, as far as the following list is concerned (I
am just marking those that did not exists there on my boxes):

>, any user can
> write to:
>
/dev/mqueue - NOT on CentOS 5
/dev/shm- there and was mounted with noexec (and others)
/run/user/ - NOT on CentOS 5
/run/screen/S- - NOT on CentOS 5
/var/spool/samba - NOT on CentOS 5 that needs extra security - in our shop;

but there is /var/spool/mail (needs to be writable for locks if it is mbox
format, not maildir)

/home/ - mounted with noexec and friends
/tmp - mounted with noexec and friends
/var/tmp - mounted with noexec and friends

And you are right again, there is a lot of hassle (and using separate
partitions to have them noexec). I guess, I was not too lazy with respect
to security back then (and now too, hopefully ;-)

Valeri

>
> Notably, the "screen" and "samba" locations only appear when the
> respective packages are installed, so the places users can write may
> vary from system to system.
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7, systemd, NetworkMangler, oh, my

2017-02-15 Thread Always Learning

On Wed, 2017-02-15 at 12:45 -0500, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

> Always Learning wrote:
> >
> >> Used a VCR or Cassette Player lately?
> >
> > My VCR broke. Replaced it with a DVD/HDD & USB3 unit. Replaced cassette
> > player and tape recorders with broadcast quality handheld recorder
> > DR-100mk3 and an amazingly good Sony PX440.
> 
> But how do you play all your old VCR tapes? As I said, I want to burn them
> to disk, but I still have a working VCR.

I converted all of them to DVDs several years ago.

Like you I still have vinyl disks, 33 rpm and 45 rpm from the lat 1960's
and early 1970's.  Although a classical music fan, some of the old
singles are evocative classics in their own right. I need to convert
them.

Paul.

P.S.
Landlines = better quality than mobiles.
Non-Smart Phones can't get hacked or mics and cameras turned-on
remotely.
Prefer my Canon SX40 and Nikon D7100 to any Smart Phone.
Wifi has guest zones but is usually disabled.




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Re: [CentOS] Serious attack vector on pkcheck ignored by Red Hat

2017-02-15 Thread Gordon Messmer

On 02/15/2017 12:08 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:

/run/screen/S- - NOT on CentOS 5
/var/spool/samba - NOT on CentOS 5 that needs extra security - in our shop;



To be pedantic: screen definitely creates a user-writable directory on 
CentOS 5, in a different location, and samba will include that directory 
if installed.  It can be really hard to make sure everything required is 
mounted noexec when some of these directories are automatically created 
by SUID or SGID binaries, in response to user actions.


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Re: [CentOS] mach64 driver, latest update in CentOS 6.8, symbol lookup error

2017-02-15 Thread Andreas Benzler
So the rebuilt not work?

Sincerely

Andy

Am Mittwoch, den 15.02.2017, 17:26 + schrieb Styma, Robert (Nokia -
US):
> 1422622


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Re: [CentOS] Problems with latest Firefox update -- can't install new extensions

2017-02-15 Thread Kay Schenk
On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 2:25 AM, Johnny Hughes  wrote:

> On 02/12/2017 03:15 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> > Since the latest Firefox update to 45.7.0 on my CentOS 6.8 system, I can
> > no longer install add-ons/extensions. Things LOOK like they're working
> > but the extensions don't get stored in my normal area and they don't
> > appear in my Add-Ons menu. Is anyone else having this issue?
> >
> > It has been a while since I added any new extensions so I can't say WHEN
> > exactly this problem happened but  :(
>
> I don't have any CentOS-6 desktops anymore, but I did a desktop install
> into a VM and installed firefox and the flash plugin from adobe.. seemed
> to work OK.
>
> I also installed firessh extension as a test.  That also worked fine.
> This extension was installed in my home directory under:
>
> /.mozilla/extensions/
>

​Thanks for the reply. The "normal" plug-ins are fine. It's the "Add-Ons"
that are my problem. I've got some "odd" ones, and am still trying to
determine if some of my privacy setting  might have any bearing. So far, no
joy with the ones I've tried, even checking Mozilla's black list, etc. ​


​If I discover anything more worthwhile in this regard, I'll re-post here.​



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[CentOS] About the flash-plugin

2017-02-15 Thread m . roth
Y'all may remember I posted here weeks ago, that flash-plugin was
crashing. There was an update this morning, which I did on my
workstation... and it hasn't crashed all day on either of the two radio
stations who I listen to via streaming media.

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Re: [CentOS] Kickstart - part ignore onpart ?? sovled, but not enough place for core.img grub2

2017-02-15 Thread Andreas Benzler
Terrible me of understand how that works ...


But: not enough place on sda for core.img if you are using grub2 ???
 I bump boot to 500MB, help nothing. Try another filesystem same 
 error.


"Sometimes you must be the developer to understand the program."


now it looks like

#version=DEVEL
# System authorization information
auth --enableshadow --passalgo=sha512
# Use CDROM installation media
cdrom
# Use graphical install
graphical
# Run the Setup Agent on first boot
firstboot --enable
ignoredisk --only-use=sda
# Keyboard layouts
keyboard --vckeymap=de-nodeadkeys --xlayouts='de (nodeadkeys)'
# System language
lang de_DE.UTF-8

# Network information
network  --bootproto=dhcp --device=enp0s3 --ipv6=auto --no-activate
network  --hostname=localhost.localdomain

# Root password
rootpw --iscrypted $6$ZzmFRmN6XqC0.Mc4
$LVrBwcqgnv5kIU5mM8e424PDPD7P1dq342lIZrB9gVFzv6EzSRPTGfLyH/M4yf88iwUpOK/XidvqWiYVl8xcG1
# System services
services --enabled="chronyd"
# System timezone
timezone Europe/Berlin --isUtc
user --groups=wheel --name=andy --password=$6$gpkn155QMucNw0DC
$TUuSuPCe5NEdFyoF/e.bKzrEHvE7W5gyYqNMCmKbkdLIyUnq1qAD5A/.ax/r6DU1MspPnrUzpuWw7rEzOD9hM.
 --iscrypted --gecos="Andreas Benzler"
# System bootloader configuration
bootloader --append=" crashkernel=auto" --location=mbr --boot-drive=sda
# Disk partitioning information
clearpart --none
part/boot   --fstype=ext2 --onpart=/dev/sda1 --noformat
part/   --fstype=ext2 --onpart=/dev/sda2 --noformat
partswap --onpart=sda3 --noformat

selinux --disabled

%packages
@^minimal
@core
chrony
#nfs-utils
#bind-utils
kexec-tools
%end

%pre
# clear the MBR and partition table
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1
partprobe
parted -s /dev/sda mklabel msdos

TOTAL=`parted -s /dev/sda unit mb print free | grep Free | awk '{print
$3}' | cut -d "M" -f1`
let SWAP_START=$TOTAL-820
let ROOT_END=$TOTAL-500-820
parted -s /dev/sda mkpart primary ext2 0 500
parted -s /dev/sda mkpart primary ext2 500 $ROOT_END
parted -s /dev/sda mkpart primary linux-swap $SWAP_START $TOTAL
# parted -s /dev/sda set 1 boot on

mkfs.ext2 -L BOOT /dev/sda1
mkfs.ext2 -L ROOT /dev/sda2
mkswap -L SWAP /dev/sda3

%end

%addon com_redhat_kdump --enable --reserve-mb='auto'

%end

%anaconda
pwpolicy root --minlen=6 --minquality=50 --notstrict --nochanges
--notempty
pwpolicy user --minlen=6 --minquality=50 --notstrict --nochanges
--notempty
pwpolicy luks --minlen=6 --minquality=50 --notstrict --nochanges
--notempty
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Re: [CentOS] mach64 driver, latest update in CentOS 6.8, symbol lookup error

2017-02-15 Thread Styma, Robert (Nokia - US)
Hi Andy,
 I tried it but got the same error.  I am pretty sure I got the correct copy of 
the driver as can be seen in the log.   Interesting note, when rhgb was on 
during boot, the word CentOS 6.8 at the bottom right of the screen was orange 
instead of white.  I wonder if the kernel was aware of there being a custom 
driver.

I do appreciate the help.   While I have never written drivers, my experience 
with .so files indicates that they added something to the file which invokes 
the driver to reference xf86LinearVidMem which was never added to that driver.


yum  --disablerepo=\* --enablerepo=cms4all install  xorg-x11-drv-mach64
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, refresh-packagekit
Setting up Reinstall Process
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package xorg-x11-drv-mach64.i686 0:6.9.4-10.el6 will be reinstalled
--> Finished Dependency Resolution

Dependencies Resolved

==
 Package   Arch   Version   
  Repository Size
==
Reinstalling:
 xorg-x11-drv-mach64   i686   
6.9.4-10.el6cms4all69 k

Transaction Summary
==
Reinstall 1 Package(s)

Total download size: 69 k
Installed size: 168 k
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
xorg-x11-drv-mach64-6.9.4-10.el6.i686.rpm   
   |  69 kB 00:00 
Running rpm_check_debug
Running Transaction Test
Transaction Test Succeeded
Running Transaction
  Installing : xorg-x11-drv-mach64-6.9.4-10.el6.i686
  1/1 
  Verifying  : xorg-x11-drv-mach64-6.9.4-10.el6.i686
  1/1 

Installed:
  xorg-x11-drv-mach64.i686 0:6.9.4-10.el6   
  

Complete!

[root@host yum.repos.d]# cat cms4all.repo
[cms4all]
name=cms4all
baseurl=http://centos.cms4all.org/repo/6/updates/
enabled=1
gpgcheck=0
priority=1




I had to move an older production server and it had the same problem when I 
powered it on, so I opened the ticket.

-Original Message-
From: CentOS [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Andreas Benzler
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 1:39 PM
To: centos@centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] mach64 driver, latest update in CentOS 6.8, symbol lookup 
error

So the rebuilt not work?

Sincerely

Andy

Am Mittwoch, den 15.02.2017, 17:26 + schrieb Styma, Robert (Nokia -
US):
> 1422622


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Re: [CentOS] Serious attack vector on pkcheck ignored by Red Hat

2017-02-15 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Wed, February 15, 2017 2:38 pm, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> On 02/15/2017 12:08 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> /run/screen/S- - NOT on CentOS 5
>> /var/spool/samba - NOT on CentOS 5 that needs extra security - in our
shop;
>
>
> To be pedantic: screen definitely creates a user-writable directory on
CentOS 5, in a different location, and samba will include that directory
if installed.  It can be really hard to make sure everything required is
mounted noexec when some of these directories are automatically created
by SUID or SGID binaries, in response to user actions.

Sure, I agree. Screen itself is SGID group screen and no SUID. One needs
to watch for places with group screen write permission, that they do not
live anywhere that is not noexec mounted. And we never had SAMBA whenever
we went to that length in restricting users... All in all virtualization
made our lives easier (I'm using FreeBSD jails to compartmentalize
immiscible things these days, I bet Linux has its lightweight equivalent,
and likely more than one).

Valeri

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[CentOS] Centos7 GeoIP support with BIND

2017-02-15 Thread Robert Moskowitz
In my new Centos7 BIND DNS server, I am seeing messages in logwatch 
about GeoIP.


Something new for me to learn about, and it seems, configure.

Checking to see what packages are available I find:

GeoIP.armv7hl   1.5.0-11.el7 @centos-base_rbf
GeoIP-data.noarch   1.5.0-11.el7 base
GeoIP-devel.armv7hl 1.5.0-11.el7 base
GeoIP-update.noarch 1.5.0-11.el7 base

and GeoIP.armv7hl is already installed in my image (even before I 
installed BIND, it seems to be part of a base server?).


I am not finding any help for GeoIP on Centos, but for debian/ubuntu 
they are saying to install geoip-database.  Is GeoIP-data the same 
thing?  What about GeoIP-update?


Basically, I probably should get started on this, or disable it in my 
DNS server.  Can someone point me to Centos specific help or help me out?


thanks


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Re: [CentOS] Centos7 GeoIP support with BIND

2017-02-15 Thread Istimsak Abdulbasir
On Feb 15, 2017 11:11 PM, "Robert Moskowitz"  wrote:

In my new Centos7 BIND DNS server, I am seeing messages in logwatch about
GeoIP.

Something new for me to learn about, and it seems, configure.

Checking to see what packages are available I find:

GeoIP.armv7hl   1.5.0-11.el7 @centos-base_rbf
GeoIP-data.noarch   1.5.0-11.el7 base
GeoIP-devel.armv7hl 1.5.0-11.el7 base
GeoIP-update.noarch 1.5.0-11.el7 base

and GeoIP.armv7hl is already installed in my image (even before I installed
BIND, it seems to be part of a base server?).

I am not finding any help for GeoIP on Centos, but for debian/ubuntu they
are saying to install geoip-database.  Is GeoIP-data the same thing?  What
about GeoIP-update?

Basically, I probably should get started on this, or disable it in my DNS
server.  Can someone point me to Centos specific help or help me out?

thanks

This the first hearing of this package,

geoIP-data is the same as geoIP-database.


http://dev.maxmind.com/geoip/legacy/csv/

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