Re: [CentOS] Suddenly OpenVPN not working - backgrounds prompt for username / password

2015-07-26 Thread Alan McKay
So it seems that now when I use --daemon it backgrounds BEFORE
prompting for my password instead of after

So I am good as long as I don't do that.

Why this all of a sudden?
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Re: [CentOS] Fedora change that will probably affect RHEL

2015-07-26 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 07/25/2015 05:00 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> On 07/25/2015 11:45 AM, Jake Shipton wrote:
>> I think a better solution to suite both worlds would be to simply have a
>> boot flag on the installation media such as maybe
>> "passwordcheck=true/false"
> 
> https://xkcd.com/1172/
> 
> It's practically a law that every time someone's workflow is broken,
> they request an option to change it.  Personally, I'm against it.
> Putting a weak password into the installer *is* a request for a weak
> password.  There's no reason to request a weak password twice (with a
> boot arg and a weak password) when the alternative is to graphically
> represent the password strength and let the user decide.
> 
> I don't like the change, but at the same time I do all of my installs
> with kickstart, and such installs are not affected. Kickstart files can
> contain a hashed password, and since a hashed password can't be checked,
> it can't be rejected.  Thus, any decision FESCO makes won't affect me at
> all.

One thing that people don't understand or don't want to address is that
most KNOWN instances of a Linux machine being hacked/owned/pwned/taken
over (substitute your word here) and then rooted happen because of weak
passwords.

It is certainly one's own right (at least in my country) to be
completely and utterly stupid with your decision making ... but if you
have any paying clients who have information on any machines you manage
and said clients information gets stolen, if you have weak passwords
then expect to shell out some cash for your stupid decision making.

Thank God we are not still using the computer code we did in 1991 when
Linux started.  Changes impact people, but good for us that the code has
changed and moved forward.

If people want weak passwords, I guess you can let people have them ..
but it is an idiotic thing to do.  It is also one that makes you liable
if you lose someone's privacy information because of your decision.

That is just MY opinion .. yours may vary.

Thanks,
Johnny Hughes




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Re: [CentOS] Fedora change that will probably affect RHEL

2015-07-26 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 07/26/2015 08:13 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 07/25/2015 05:00 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
>> On 07/25/2015 11:45 AM, Jake Shipton wrote:
>>> I think a better solution to suite both worlds would be to simply have a
>>> boot flag on the installation media such as maybe
>>> "passwordcheck=true/false"
>>
>> https://xkcd.com/1172/
>>
>> It's practically a law that every time someone's workflow is broken,
>> they request an option to change it.  Personally, I'm against it.
>> Putting a weak password into the installer *is* a request for a weak
>> password.  There's no reason to request a weak password twice (with a
>> boot arg and a weak password) when the alternative is to graphically
>> represent the password strength and let the user decide.
>>
>> I don't like the change, but at the same time I do all of my installs
>> with kickstart, and such installs are not affected. Kickstart files can
>> contain a hashed password, and since a hashed password can't be checked,
>> it can't be rejected.  Thus, any decision FESCO makes won't affect me at
>> all.
> 
> One thing that people don't understand or don't want to address is that
> most KNOWN instances of a Linux machine being hacked/owned/pwned/taken
> over (substitute your word here) and then rooted happen because of weak
> passwords.
> 
> It is certainly one's own right (at least in my country) to be
> completely and utterly stupid with your decision making ... but if you
> have any paying clients who have information on any machines you manage
> and said clients information gets stolen, if you have weak passwords
> then expect to shell out some cash for your stupid decision making.
> 
> Thank God we are not still using the computer code we did in 1991 when
> Linux started.  Changes impact people, but good for us that the code has
> changed and moved forward.
> 
> If people want weak passwords, I guess you can let people have them ..
> but it is an idiotic thing to do.  It is also one that makes you liable
> if you lose someone's privacy information because of your decision.
> 
> That is just MY opinion .. yours may vary.

Gordon, just to make sure you (and others on the list) understand .. I
have no issue with your specific post .. I probably should have replied
to the OP's mail instead, but yours was the last I read on this thread.




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[CentOS] C6.6 Gnome panel problem

2015-07-26 Thread Fred Smith
Hi all!

I usually keep the panels on my Centos 6.6 (Gnome) so they auto-hide,
but t'other day I wanted to keep the top panel visible for a while to
make the clock visible for doing some rough timings.

so I open the top panel, click properties, and UNcheck the "autohide"
checkbox, close the properties menu, and to my surprise, the panel
still autohides. Went thru that exercise several times ("come on guys,
lets keep doing the same thing over and over til it works!", like
congress does)

So I open up the gnome configuration editor and browse around to find
apps/panel/default_setup/toplevels/top_panel and
apps/panel/toplevels/top_panel.

neither one has a check in the checkbox for autohide, so I'm at a
loss here as to what's going on.

Anybody out there got any clues?

thanks!

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Re: [CentOS] C6.6 Gnome panel problem

2015-07-26 Thread Rob Kampen

On 07/27/2015 05:34 AM, Fred Smith wrote:

Hi all!

I usually keep the panels on my Centos 6.6 (Gnome) so they auto-hide,
but t'other day I wanted to keep the top panel visible for a while to
make the clock visible for doing some rough timings.

so I open the top panel, click properties, and UNcheck the "autohide"
checkbox, close the properties menu, and to my surprise, the panel
still autohides. Went thru that exercise several times ("come on guys,
lets keep doing the same thing over and over til it works!", like
congress does)

So I open up the gnome configuration editor and browse around to find
apps/panel/default_setup/toplevels/top_panel and
apps/panel/toplevels/top_panel.

neither one has a check in the checkbox for autohide, so I'm at a
loss here as to what's going on.

Anybody out there got any clues?
Did you try logging out and back in? Shouldn't be the case but it is 
gnome after all

thanks!

Fred


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[CentOS] wicd problem 0: i have started having problems wicd and network connections

2015-07-26 Thread g


greetings,

system:
 CentOS = 6.6 - current updates
KDE = 4.3.4
Network Manager = 0.8.1
   wicd = 1.7.0 (bzr-r552)

from what i have read in threads, it appears that 'wicd' is recommended
network controller over 'network manager'.

because of this, i installed wicd and tried to use.

i find this strange because i see problems when using 'wicd'.

in attempt to understand what and where problem may be, i have tried
various ways of checking for problem.

to post what i have found, i am posting in 6 parts to hopefully make
it easier for help in troubleshooting by breaking down what i have
found.

comments and suggestions most welcome.

tia.


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[CentOS] wicd problem 2: wicd does not sync when ifconfig commands are given from a terminal

2015-07-26 Thread g

greetings,

during past week or so, i have been having problems with mozilla firefox
locking up kde desktop and i have to open a terminal to reboot system.

to insure that i get kde back to a desired state, i make backups of
~/.kde path when ever i change any settings of kde.

after system reboots and desktop manager is displayed, i 
to terminal, delete current ~/.kde, then copy ~/.kde-backup to ~/.kde.

while in terminal, i run 'ifconfig' to see if network is connected,
which it is, so i 'sudo ifconfig eth0 down' to disconnect.

after starting kde, wicd icon in system tray is showing wicd has
connection to network, which it does not.

when i click wicd icon and then select 'disconnect', and close wicd
window, then reopen wicd and select 'connect', there is no connection.


a 3rd problem i see with 'wicd' is in post "Subject: wicd problem";

 3: wicd blocking 1st attempt connection for firefox and yumex


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[CentOS] wicd problem 1: wicd allows network to be connected on reboot

2015-07-26 Thread g

greetings,

i find this strange because i see problems when using 'wicd'.

1st problem is that wicd allows network to be connected on reboot, even
when network is disconnected at time of reboot.

such does not seem to be good because i leave system up 24/7/365 and if
there is a mains failure and ups takes system down, system will come back
up with network connected, which i prefer not to have happen.

is there a way to set up 'wicd' so that it does not start connected?


a 2nd problem i see with 'wicd' is in post "Subject: wicd problem";

2: wicd does not sync when ifconfig commands are given from a terminal


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[CentOS] wicd problem 3: wicd blocking 1st attempt connection for firefox and yumex

2015-07-26 Thread g

greetings,

wicd is preventing firefox and yumex to connect to internet.

when i first try to connect to a web site with firefox, i get err message;

  Unable to connect

when i click [Try Again], connection is made. all further connection
attempts are ok.

when i try to run yumex, i get error message;

   Not connected to a network.
   Do you want to continue

selecting [Yes] continues starting yumex, but i have active repositories.

when i run yum cl command;

  ]$ yum check-update
  Loaded plugins: aliases, changelog, downloadonly, fastestmirror, presto,
  : refresh-packagekit, security, tmprepo, verify, versionlock
  Determining fastest mirrors
  Could not retrieve mirrorlist http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=6&;
  arch=x86_64&repo=os error was
  14: PYCURL ERROR 6 - "Couldn't resolve host 'mirrorlist.centos.org'"
  Error: Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: base

when i run yum cl command again;

  ]$ yum check-update
  Loaded plugins: aliases, changelog, downloadonly, fastestmirror, presto,
  : refresh-packagekit, security, tmprepo, verify, versionlock
  Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
  epel/metalink   |  13 kB 00:00

which indicates yum has made connection.

a 4th problem i see with 'wicd' is in post "Subject: wicd problem";

 4: wicd restarts itself when as root user making terminal commands


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[CentOS] wicd problem 5: wicd restarts itself when as user making terminal commands

2015-07-26 Thread g


greetings,

following are command line problems as user using virtual terminals.


]$ ifconfig;date
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0F:FE:8F:8F:23
  inet addr:192.168.1.1  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  inet6 addr: fe80::20f:feff:fe8f:8f23/64 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:1419 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:709 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:117028 (114.2 KiB)  TX bytes:87298 (85.2 KiB)
  Interrupt:19 Memory:f018-f01a

loLink encap:Local Loopback
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:65536  Metric:1
  RX packets:334 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:334 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  RX bytes:25264 (24.6 KiB)  TX bytes:25264 (24.6 KiB)

virbr0Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 52:54:00:B3:A7:95
  inet addr:192.168.122.1  Bcast:192.168.122.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:23 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:3505 (3.4 KiB)

Sun Jul 26 21:43:27 CDT 2015
[geo@boxen ~]$ sudo ifconfig eth0 down;date
[sudo] password for geo:
Sun Jul 26 21:44:26 CDT 2015
[geo@boxen ~]$ ifconfig;date
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0F:FE:8F:8F:23
  inet6 addr: fe80::20f:feff:fe8f:8f23/64 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:1454 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:722 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:119920 (117.1 KiB)  TX bytes:88850 (86.7 KiB)
  Interrupt:19 Memory:f018-f01a

loLink encap:Local Loopback
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:65536  Metric:1
  RX packets:334 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:334 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  RX bytes:25264 (24.6 KiB)  TX bytes:25264 (24.6 KiB)

virbr0Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 52:54:00:B3:A7:95
  inet addr:192.168.122.1  Bcast:192.168.122.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:23 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:3505 (3.4 KiB)

Sun Jul 26 21:44:39 CDT 2015
[geo@boxen ~]$ sudo ifconfig eth0 down;date
Sun Jul 26 21:45:08 CDT 2015
[geo@boxen ~]$ ifconfig;date
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0F:FE:8F:8F:23
  UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:1471 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:746 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:121128 (118.2 KiB)  TX bytes:93189 (91.0 KiB)
  Interrupt:19 Memory:f018-f01a

loLink encap:Local Loopback
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:65536  Metric:1
  RX packets:334 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:334 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  RX bytes:25264 (24.6 KiB)  TX bytes:25264 (24.6 KiB)

virbr0Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 52:54:00:B3:A7:95
  inet addr:192.168.122.1  Bcast:192.168.122.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:23 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:3505 (3.4 KiB)

Sun Jul 26 21:45:13 CDT 2015
[geo@boxen ~]$ ifconfig;date
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0F:FE:8F:8F:23
  inet6 addr: fe80::20f:feff:fe8f:8f23/64 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:1483 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:778 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:122580 (119.7 KiB)  TX bytes:99082 (96.7 KiB)
  Interrupt:19 Memory:f018-f01a

loLink encap:Local Loopback
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:65536  Metric:1
  RX packets:334 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:334 errors:0 d

[CentOS] wicd problem 4: wicd restarts itself when as root user making terminal commands

2015-07-26 Thread g


greetings,

to further check wicd problem, i decided to run test as root user and
as user.

i verified wicd problems 1, 2, 3 happen when logged in as root user.

to further test wicd problems, i tried a few command line problems
using virtual terminals.

in following, note changing of status for eth0.

[root@boxen Documents]# ifconfig eth0 down
[root@boxen Documents]# ifconfig
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0F:FE:8F:8F:23
  UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:886 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:491 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:78924 (77.0 KiB)  TX bytes:63994 (62.4 KiB)
  Interrupt:19 Memory:f018-f01a

loLink encap:Local Loopback
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:65536  Metric:1
  RX packets:296 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:296 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  RX bytes:22964 (22.4 KiB)  TX bytes:22964 (22.4 KiB)

virbr0Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 52:54:00:B3:A7:95
  inet addr:192.168.122.1  Bcast:192.168.122.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:22 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:3417 (3.3 KiB)

[root@boxen Documents]# ifconfig
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0F:FE:8F:8F:23
  inet addr:192.168.1.1  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  inet6 addr: fe80::20f:feff:fe8f:8f23/64 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:900 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:520 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:80504 (78.6 KiB)  TX bytes:69267 (67.6 KiB)
  Interrupt:19 Memory:f018-f01a

loLink encap:Local Loopback
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:65536  Metric:1
  RX packets:296 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:296 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  RX bytes:22964 (22.4 KiB)  TX bytes:22964 (22.4 KiB)

virbr0Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 52:54:00:B3:A7:95
  inet addr:192.168.122.1  Bcast:192.168.122.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:22 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:3417 (3.3 KiB)

[root@boxen Documents]# ifconfig eth0 down;ifconfig;date
loLink encap:Local Loopback
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:65536  Metric:1
  RX packets:296 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:296 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  RX bytes:22964 (22.4 KiB)  TX bytes:22964 (22.4 KiB)

virbr0Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 52:54:00:B3:A7:95
  inet addr:192.168.122.1  Bcast:192.168.122.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:22 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:3417 (3.3 KiB)

Sun Jul 26 21:30:00 CDT 2015
[root@boxen Documents]# ifconfig;date
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0F:FE:8F:8F:23
  inet addr:192.168.1.1  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  inet6 addr: fe80::20f:feff:fe8f:8f23/64 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:993 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:575 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:87572 (85.5 KiB)  TX bytes:76022 (74.2 KiB)
  Interrupt:19 Memory:f018-f01a

loLink encap:Local Loopback
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:65536  Metric:1
  RX packets:296 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:296 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  RX bytes:22964 (22.4 KiB)  TX bytes:22964 (22.4 KiB)

virbr0Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 52:54:00:B3:A7:95
  inet addr:192.168.122.1  Bcast:192.168.122.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST 

Re: [CentOS] wicd problem 0: i have started having problems wicd and network connections

2015-07-26 Thread John R Pierce

On 7/26/2015 9:18 PM, g wrote:

from what i have read in threads, it appears that 'wicd' is recommended
network controller over 'network manager'.


recommended by whom ?rhel and therefore centos use network 
manager. wicd is used by arch and some other distributions... wicd 
is not available via the base centos repository, either.




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