Re: [CentOS] Using Mariadb databases from old server

[Timothy Murphy]

Richard wrote:

> The approach you can/need to take depends a bit on the type of db
> table you have. If it's a MyISAM type you can (generally) simply
> move the various db files from one machine to another. See:
> 
> 
> 
> for some specific notes. I always move the whole directory.
> 
> If they are InnoDB tables, see the notes at:
> 
> 
> 
> for details.
> 
> Look at:
> 
> 
> 
> for details on what's in the ibdata1 file.
> 
> You need to have mysql/mariadb shut down when you move the files.

Thanks very much for your advice.

Actually I had already taken a rather longer path:
I installed a MySQL server on my Fedora laptop,
and transferred the directory /var/lib/mysql from the dead computer.
This ran perfectly, so I could export the table in question,
and install it on my server.

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Re: [CentOS] Native ZFS on Linux

[Joerg Schilling]

Chuck Munro  wrote:

> I have a question that has been puzzling me for some time ... what is 
> the reason RedHat chose to go with btrfs rather than working with the 
> ZFS-on-Linux folks (now OpenZFS)?  Is it a licensing issue, political, etc?

There is no licensing issue, but there are OpenSource enemies that spread a 
fairy tale about an alleged licensing issue.

The only problem with integrating ZFS into Linux is that the VFS interface from 
Linux is inferior to the one from OpenSolaris and as a result, there is a need 
to first implement missing interfaces.

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Re: [CentOS] Native ZFS on Linux

[Joerg Schilling]

Ray Van Dolson  wrote:

> Licensing, IMO.  Redistributing ZoL is likely fraught with a bit of
> legal peril, or at best, technical peril if you want to try and skirt
> the legal edges.  Oracle is notoriously litigious and having a target
> liked Red Hat would probably have their lawyers whetting their chops.

Please avoid unverified insinuations like this one.

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Re: [CentOS] Native ZFS on Linux

[Joerg Schilling]

Chris Adams  wrote:

> Once upon a time, Chuck Munro  said:
> > I have a question that has been puzzling me for some time ... what
> > is the reason RedHat chose to go with btrfs rather than working with
> > the ZFS-on-Linux folks (now OpenZFS)?  Is it a licensing issue,
> > political, etc?
>
> Licensing.  Sun chose an Open Source license that is incompatible with
> the GPLv2 as used by the Linux kernel, so it is not legally possible to

This is an infamous insinuation that has been verified as being false by the 
prople who know better (e.g. Simon Phipps).

Correct is:

-   The Sun developers had threatened to leave Sun in case Sun would use
the BSD license for OpenSolaris. So BSD was not possible.

-   The GPL is not free enough to make it usable for OpenSolaris. So
the GPL was not possible.

-   The license chosen (the CDDL) gives maximum compatibility to other
licenses.

BTW: I have been involved in the discussions for the license selection and I can
verify as well that you are the victim of a fairy tale.

> distribute a combined work of the kernel and the Sun ZFS code (at least
> that's the opinion of a number of lawyers, including Red Hat's; not all

Name us a single credible lawyer that made this claim.

In contrary, well-known lawyers (e.g. the lawyers of Harald Welte) explained 
why 
a combination of a filesystem with the Linux kernel is not problem.


> The only legal way to use ZFS natively under Linux would be to not use
> any of the Sun code and reimplement ZFS from scratch for Linux.  That
> would be a large job.

With this funny claim, you just again verify that you are uninformed. If you 
reimplement the code (even though there is no legal need to do so) you _create_ 
a legal problem as only the original code includes the patent grant from the 
CDDL. If you reimplement the code, you need to pay royalities for the patents.

If you like to use legal free code, you _need_ to use the original 
implementation. 

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Re: [CentOS] Native ZFS on Linux

[Johnny Hughes]

On 06/01/2015 06:42 AM, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Chuck Munro  wrote:
> 
>> I have a question that has been puzzling me for some time ... what is 
>> the reason RedHat chose to go with btrfs rather than working with the 
>> ZFS-on-Linux folks (now OpenZFS)?  Is it a licensing issue, political, etc?
> 
> There is no licensing issue, but there are OpenSource enemies that spread a 
> fairy tale about an alleged licensing issue.
> 
> The only problem with integrating ZFS into Linux is that the VFS interface 
> from 
> Linux is inferior to the one from OpenSolaris and as a result, there is a 
> need 
> to first implement missing interfaces.
> 
> Jörg
> 

Guys ... let's try not to have a license fight again on the list.
Sometimes these things get way out of hand.

This list is not a place for legal advise .. let's let the attorneys who
actually know the law and the maintainers of programs decide what
license they use and what it means.

Whatever is in RHEL sources, that is what will be in official CentOS
Linux .. and if you want something else (ie, ZFS) .. then get like
minded people and start a SIG to maintain that for CentOS on the
CentOS-devel mailing list.

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Re: [CentOS] Native ZFS on Linux

[Joerg Schilling]

Johnny Hughes  wrote:

> On 06/01/2015 06:42 AM, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> > Chuck Munro  wrote:
> > 
> >> I have a question that has been puzzling me for some time ... what is 
> >> the reason RedHat chose to go with btrfs rather than working with the 
> >> ZFS-on-Linux folks (now OpenZFS)?  Is it a licensing issue, political, etc?
> > 
> > There is no licensing issue, but there are OpenSource enemies that spread a 
> > fairy tale about an alleged licensing issue.
> > 
> > The only problem with integrating ZFS into Linux is that the VFS interface 
> > from 
> > Linux is inferior to the one from OpenSolaris and as a result, there is a 
> > need 
> > to first implement missing interfaces.
> > 
> > Jörg
> > 
>
> Guys ... let's try not to have a license fight again on the list.
> Sometimes these things get way out of hand.
>
> This list is not a place for legal advise .. let's let the attorneys who
> actually know the law and the maintainers of programs decide what
> license they use and what it means.

Could you explain why you did not reply to the mail fropm Chris Adams who 
introduced a false claim about so called "opinions of a number of lawyers"?

As mentioned: lawyers explain why there is no problem with ZFS integration. If 
you don't like useless discussions, you need to prevent people from spreading 
unverified rumors.

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Re: [CentOS] Native ZFS on Linux

[Johnny Hughes]

On 06/01/2015 07:42 AM, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Johnny Hughes  wrote:
> 
>> On 06/01/2015 06:42 AM, Joerg Schilling wrote:
>>> Chuck Munro  wrote:
>>>
 I have a question that has been puzzling me for some time ... what is 
 the reason RedHat chose to go with btrfs rather than working with the 
 ZFS-on-Linux folks (now OpenZFS)?  Is it a licensing issue, political, etc?
>>>
>>> There is no licensing issue, but there are OpenSource enemies that spread a 
>>> fairy tale about an alleged licensing issue.
>>>
>>> The only problem with integrating ZFS into Linux is that the VFS interface 
>>> from 
>>> Linux is inferior to the one from OpenSolaris and as a result, there is a 
>>> need 
>>> to first implement missing interfaces.
>>>
>>> Jörg
>>>
>>
>> Guys ... let's try not to have a license fight again on the list.
>> Sometimes these things get way out of hand.
>>
>> This list is not a place for legal advise .. let's let the attorneys who
>> actually know the law and the maintainers of programs decide what
>> license they use and what it means.
> 
> Could you explain why you did not reply to the mail fropm Chris Adams who 
> introduced a false claim about so called "opinions of a number of lawyers"?
> 
> As mentioned: lawyers explain why there is no problem with ZFS integration. 
> If 
> you don't like useless discussions, you need to prevent people from spreading 
> unverified rumors.
> 
> Jörg
> 

I replied to the last one I saw in the thread at the time of my reply ..
not to assign blame.



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[CentOS] Guest agent on CentOS 5 VM

[Robert Fitzpatrick]

Is it possible to get the QEMU guest agent on a CentOS 5.11 virtual 
machine? Has anyone installed from source?  I am running the VM on a 
CentOS 7 virtual host with qemu-1.5.3.


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Re: [CentOS] Native ZFS on Linux

[Joerg Schilling]

Johnny Hughes  wrote:

> > Could you explain why you did not reply to the mail fropm Chris Adams who 
> > introduced a false claim about so called "opinions of a number of lawyers"?
> > 
> > As mentioned: lawyers explain why there is no problem with ZFS integration. 
> > If 
> > you don't like useless discussions, you need to prevent people from 
> > spreading 
> > unverified rumors.
> > 
> > Jörg
> > 
>
> I replied to the last one I saw in the thread at the time of my reply ..
> not to assign blame.

OK, plese note that I am not willing to tolerate anti-oss claims and will 
continue to correct similar false claims. If you don't like those discussions 
at all, you should try to avoid false claims and the need for corrections.

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Re: [CentOS] Native ZFS on Linux

[Andrew Holway]

>
>
> OK, plese note that I am not willing to tolerate anti-oss claims and will
> continue to correct similar false claims. If you don't like those
> discussions
> at all, you should try to avoid false claims and the need for corrections.
>

If I were RedHat, including a non GPL filesystem into my operating system
would make me sweat a bit. Intel were facing a similar issue bundling
OpenZFS with Lustre in their Intel Enterprise Edition for Lustre. They seem
to have solved it by having the installer download the OpenZFS package
during installation time.
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Re: [CentOS] Native ZFS on Linux

[Joerg Schilling]

Andrew Holway  wrote:

> >
> >
> > OK, plese note that I am not willing to tolerate anti-oss claims and will
> > continue to correct similar false claims. If you don't like those
> > discussions
> > at all, you should try to avoid false claims and the need for corrections.
> >
>
> If I were RedHat, including a non GPL filesystem into my operating system
> would make me sweat a bit. Intel were facing a similar issue bundling
> OpenZFS with Lustre in their Intel Enterprise Edition for Lustre. They seem
> to have solved it by having the installer download the OpenZFS package
> during installation time.

There is no need to do it this way

Note that it is without doubt that ZFS was not derived from the Linux kernel 
and thus cannot be a derived work.

Combining ZFS and Linux creates a so called "collective work" where each part 
can have it's own license.

See: http://www.oreilly.de/german/freebooks/gplger/pdf/025-168.pdf

line 70 (PDF line 46).

This is a GPL book from real lawyers that won the Harald Welte cases!

Important facts:

-   ZFS has been developed independendtly from Linux

-   ZFS of course works without Linux (when in OpenSolaris).

I however know that the FSF acts like the Mafia when it comes to GPL 
compatibility. Be careful not to believe false claims from people who ignore 
legal facts because they are acting political.

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Re: [CentOS] Native ZFS on Linux

[Chris Adams]

Once upon a time, Joerg Schilling  said:
> Note that it is without doubt that ZFS was not derived from the Linux kernel 
> and thus cannot be a derived work.

All that matters for CentOS is:

1: Red Hat doesn't ship ZFS because of Red Hat's lawyers' interpretation
   of GPL+CDDL
2: Arguing about it here will not change #1
3: CentOS ships a clone of Red Hat Enterprise Linux and so won't have
   things that Red Hat's lawyers don't approve (see #2)

Please let it go.  I think everybody here knows your opinion.
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Re: [CentOS] Native ZFS on Linux

[Joerg Schilling]

Chris Adams  wrote:

> Once upon a time, Joerg Schilling  said:
> > Note that it is without doubt that ZFS was not derived from the Linux 
> > kernel 
> > and thus cannot be a derived work.
>
> All that matters for CentOS is:
>
> 1: Red Hat doesn't ship ZFS because of Red Hat's lawyers' interpretation
>of GPL+CDDL

As this is something that was never backed up with facts, it must be seen as 
pure speculation.

If you like to be taken seriously, come up with arguments from these lawyers...


> Please let it go.  I think everybody here knows your opinion.

Everybody here knows the anti OSS opinion of some RedHat people. 

Note that it is a well known fact that there has been never a verifyable 
explanation on why there should be a problem. We thus need to see everything 
against the explained usability as no more than disinformation politics.

On the other side: as long as this disinformation politics continues, Linux 
distros push temselves into a big disatvantage compared to platforms that ship 
ZFS. 

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[CentOS] why network interface had same mac address in pxe mode

[Firxiaowork]

Hi all:
when I reinstall os by cobbler on the machine which two network 
interfaces config to bond mode=0, and system is centos 7.1 ,
   I saw this error:
   https://github.com/cobbler/cobbler/issues/1478 

 
 finally,  I unplug one network interface and pxe work well !
 what I confuseed is  why  network interfaces  do not restore to 
original  mac  in pxe mode   ?
 why the two network interfaces has same mac address even on pxe mode? 
 what can trigger this problem ?




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[CentOS] nginx conflicting server name ignored warning

[Tim Dunphy]

Guys,

 I'm getting a strange warning whenever I do a config test or a restart of
nginx 1.0.15

[root@aoadbld00032lb nginx]# nginx -t
nginx: [warn] conflicting server name "aoadbld00032lb.company.com" on
0.0.0.0:80, ignored
nginx: [warn] conflicting server name "logs.pcf.company.com" on 0.0.0.0:80,
ignored
nginx: the configuration file /etc/nginx/nginx.conf syntax is ok
nginx: configuration file /etc/nginx/nginx.conf test is successful

And as far as I can tell I only have one server_name directive in the whole
config:

[root@aoadbld00032lb nginx]# grep -r server_name *
conf.d/kibana.conf:server_name   aoadbld00032lb.company.com
logs.pcf.company.com;
fastcgi_params:fastcgi_param  SERVER_NAME$server_name;
scgi_params:scgi_param  SERVER_NAME$server_name;
uwsgi_params:uwsgi_param  SERVER_NAME$server_name;

It's more of an annoyance than any kind of real problem, as far as I can
tell. Because the site I'm trying to put up with it appears to be working.
I'm using this host as a logstash server.

But does anybody have any ideas as to why this may be happening? Or of any
potential problems that this may cause?

Thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] Native ZFS on Linux

[Jason Warr]

On Mon, 01 Jun 2015 10:02:53 -0500, Chris Adams  wrote:



All that matters for CentOS is:

1: Red Hat doesn't ship ZFS because of Red Hat's lawyers' interpretation
   of GPL+CDDL
2: Arguing about it here will not change #1
3: CentOS ships a clone of Red Hat Enterprise Linux and so won't have
   things that Red Hat's lawyers don't approve (see #2)

Please let it go.  I think everybody here knows your opinion.


I think that you need to simplify #1 to:

1: Red Hat doesn't ship ZFS

As that is really all that matters and so that people can't argue that you  
are making a statement of knowledge about what/why Red Hat's lawyers have  
decided.  It does not matter on these lists WHY they don't ship it, just  
that they don't.


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[CentOS] Redistributing CentOS as part of a package

[Digimer]

Hi all,

  I'm developing a program that is not a distro, per-se, but sort of
acts like one. Basically, it's a modified CentOS ISO with some extra
RPMs added, unneeded RPMs removed and containing a modified boot screen
and install selection list.

  The list says "CentOS", so a user knows the installed appliance will
be based on CentOS, but it also has our project's branding along with it
(splash screen, our custom installer's images and text, etc). We do not
modify /etc/issue, /etc/redhat-release or so one.

  So I wanted to ask the community if this is OK, as I think I'm sitting
in something of a gray area between a straight custom CentOS ISO and a
new distro. If this isn't the right place to ask, a pointer to the right
place would be much appreciated.

  I am happy to answer any further questions (here or in private) from
the CentOS team if it would help clarify things.

Cheers!

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Re: [CentOS] Native ZFS on Linux

[Jonathan Billings]

On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 10:55:55AM -0500, Jason Warr wrote:
> I think that you need to simplify #1 to:
> 
> 1: Red Hat doesn't ship ZFS
> 
> As that is really all that matters and so that people can't argue that you
> are making a statement of knowledge about what/why Red Hat's lawyers have
> decided.  It does not matter on these lists WHY they don't ship it, just
> that they don't.

According to https://access.redhat.com/solutions/79633 :

> Root Cause

> ZFS is not included in the upstream Linux kernel. Red Hat applies an
> "upstream first" policy for kernel modules (including
> filesystems). Without upstream presence, ZFS will not be provided nor
> supported by Red Hat. 

There's a lot of "I Am not a lawyer, but..." discussion in the
comments, but I think this is the best answer from Red Hat as to why
they don't ship ZFS.

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Re: [CentOS] Redistributing CentOS as part of a package

[Digimer]

On 01/06/15 12:00 PM, Digimer wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
>   I'm developing a program that is not a distro, per-se, but sort of
> acts like one. Basically, it's a modified CentOS ISO with some extra
> RPMs added, unneeded RPMs removed and containing a modified boot screen
> and install selection list.
> 
>   The list says "CentOS", so a user knows the installed appliance will
> be based on CentOS, but it also has our project's branding along with it
> (splash screen, our custom installer's images and text, etc). We do not
> modify /etc/issue, /etc/redhat-release or so one.
> 
>   So I wanted to ask the community if this is OK, as I think I'm sitting
> in something of a gray area between a straight custom CentOS ISO and a
> new distro. If this isn't the right place to ask, a pointer to the right
> place would be much appreciated.
> 
>   I am happy to answer any further questions (here or in private) from
> the CentOS team if it would help clarify things.
> 
> Cheers!

Woops'ed the Subject; s/package/project/

An auspicious start! :)

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Re: [CentOS] Native ZFS on Linux

[Valeri Galtsev]

On Mon, June 1, 2015 11:06 am, Jonathan Billings wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 10:55:55AM -0500, Jason Warr wrote:
>> I think that you need to simplify #1 to:
>>
>> 1: Red Hat doesn't ship ZFS
>>
>> As that is really all that matters and so that people can't argue that
>> you
>> are making a statement of knowledge about what/why Red Hat's lawyers
>> have
>> decided.  It does not matter on these lists WHY they don't ship it, just
>> that they don't.
>
> According to https://access.redhat.com/solutions/79633 :

Hm... this best answer is meant for RedHat Enterprise subscribers' eyes
only...

Even though my University has a subscription, I'm sort of reluctant to use
it just to read this answer. In a couple of non-confidential words, what
is the answer?

Valeri

>
>> Root Cause
>
>> ZFS is not included in the upstream Linux kernel. Red Hat applies an
>> "upstream first" policy for kernel modules (including
>> filesystems). Without upstream presence, ZFS will not be provided nor
>> supported by Red Hat.
>
> There's a lot of "I Am not a lawyer, but..." discussion in the
> comments, but I think this is the best answer from Red Hat as to why
> they don't ship ZFS.
>
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Re: [CentOS] Native ZFS on Linux

[Jason Warr]

On Mon, 01 Jun 2015 11:06:20 -0500, Jonathan Billings  
 wrote:



On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 10:55:55AM -0500, Jason Warr wrote:

I think that you need to simplify #1 to:

1: Red Hat doesn't ship ZFS

As that is really all that matters and so that people can't argue that  
you
are making a statement of knowledge about what/why Red Hat's lawyers  
have

decided.  It does not matter on these lists WHY they don't ship it, just
that they don't.


According to https://access.redhat.com/solutions/79633 :


Root Cause



ZFS is not included in the upstream Linux kernel. Red Hat applies an
"upstream first" policy for kernel modules (including
filesystems). Without upstream presence, ZFS will not be provided nor
supported by Red Hat.


There's a lot of "I Am not a lawyer, but..." discussion in the
comments, but I think this is the best answer from Red Hat as to why
they don't ship ZFS.



And in my experience with Red Hat is the only thing that has any chance of  
changing that is if a big enough customer(s) demand it.  It has to make  
economic sense for them and at this stage it apparently does not.

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Re: [CentOS] Native ZFS on Linux

[m . roth]

Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Chris Adams  wrote:
>
>> Once upon a time, Joerg Schilling 
>> said:
>> > Note that it is without doubt that ZFS was not derived from the Linux
>> > kernel and thus cannot be a derived work.
>>
>> All that matters for CentOS is:
>>
>> 1: Red Hat doesn't ship ZFS because of Red Hat's lawyers' interpretation
>>of GPL+CDDL
>
> As this is something that was never backed up with facts, it must be seen
> as pure speculation.
>
> If you like to be taken seriously, come up with arguments from these
> lawyers...

This is a ludicrously absurd argument.
  a) ZFS is not included by RH.
  b) RH has some reason for this: either
  i) they like btrfs better, or
  ii) their lawyers like ZFS less.

In either case, UPSTREAM DOES NOT INCLUDE IT WITH THEIR ENTERPRISE OS.
Therefore, given CentOS's mission, this argument is "all sound and fury,
signifying nothing".

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Re: [CentOS] Native ZFS on Linux

[Jonathan Billings]

On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 11:11:56AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> On Mon, June 1, 2015 11:06 am, Jonathan Billings wrote:
> > According to https://access.redhat.com/solutions/79633 :
> 
> Hm... this best answer is meant for RedHat Enterprise subscribers' eyes
> only...
> 
> Even though my University has a subscription, I'm sort of reluctant to use
> it just to read this answer. In a couple of non-confidential words, what
> is the answer?

Sorry, I copy-pasted the "Root Cause" in my earlier email.  The "Root
Cause" explains the negative answer to the question "Does Red Hat
Enterprise Linux support ZFS Filesystem?".  Its a short article.

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Re: [CentOS] Project Management Software

[Mike - st257]

On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:26 PM, H  wrote:

> I have a need to use a project management software package under Centos
> 6.6 and have started looking at ProjectLibre which is a Java package.
>
> Unfortunately it seems to have shortcomings when it comes to following up
> projects and my current understanding is that it falls short of Microsoft
> Project 2010, i.e., a previous version.
>

I have not used ProjectLibre, so I can't comment on its features.


>
> Does anyone have experience with this type of software and what would you
> recommend?
>

Years back I used [what appears to have been] GanttProject.
Worked fine for me, but I was only interested in creating Gantt charts and
not so much comparing features to Microsoft Project (though I used MS
Project briefly many moons ago).
http://www.ganttproject.biz/


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[CentOS] [OT] recover/reset 'owner' password on win7 os

[g]

i inherited a toshiba satellite l455d with win7 installed, install
cd lost.

'owner' passworded, forgotten by previous owner. 'guest' is does not
have a password.

i want remove unneeded music software and files and other crud before
i defrag the drive so as to have more room to dual boot linux.

i would wipe win7, but not an option at this time.

i booted laptop, pulled 'ntpassword', copied files to a usb stick,
tried to run;

  X:syslinux.exe -ma X:

as 'guest', it failed.

how can i make usb stick bootable from linux?

any/all suggestion/help is greatly appreciated.

thanks in advance.


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Re: [CentOS] nginx conflicting server name ignored warning

[Jeremy Thompson]

on my configs for every server { } instance I only call out the server_name 
directive once.  I haven’t ever passed them to the cgi servers as a param 
though.  You’ve probably looked already but make sure those domain names don’t 
exist in another conf like maybe the default.conf.


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Guys,

I'm getting a strange warning whenever I do a config test or a restart of
nginx 1.0.15

[root@aoadbld00032lb nginx]# nginx -t
nginx: [warn] conflicting server name "aoadbld00032lb.company.com" on
0.0.0.0:80, ignored
nginx: [warn] conflicting server name "logs.pcf.company.com" on 0.0.0.0:80,
ignored
nginx: the configuration file /etc/nginx/nginx.conf syntax is ok
nginx: configuration file /etc/nginx/nginx.conf test is successful

And as far as I can tell I only have one server_name directive in the whole
config:

[root@aoadbld00032lb nginx]# grep -r server_name *
conf.d/kibana.conf:server_name   aoadbld00032lb.company.com
logs.pcf.company.com;
fastcgi_params:fastcgi_param  SERVER_NAME$server_name;
scgi_params:scgi_param  SERVER_NAME$server_name;
uwsgi_params:uwsgi_param  SERVER_NAME$server_name;

It's more of an annoyance than any kind of real problem, as far as I can
tell. Because the site I'm trying to put up with it appears to be working.
I'm using this host as a logstash server.

But does anybody have any ideas as to why this may be happening? Or of any
potential problems that this may cause?

Thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] [OT] recover/reset 'owner' password on win7 os

[John R Pierce]

On 6/1/2015 10:30 AM, g wrote:

i would wipe win7, but not an option at this time.


thats the only sane thing to do with a used computer being redeployed, 
format it completely, and clean install your desired software.


there's a util called NTPASSWD that can reset the password of a windows 
system, this util is run by booting a cd or usb stick, and directly 
modifies the 'SAM' in windows (somewhat akin to booting a rescue CD on 
'nix, and editing /mnt/etc/shadow to remove passwords).



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Re: [CentOS] Redistributing CentOS as part of a package

[Johnny Hughes]

On 06/01/2015 11:09 AM, Digimer wrote:
> On 01/06/15 12:00 PM, Digimer wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>>   I'm developing a program that is not a distro, per-se, but sort of
>> acts like one. Basically, it's a modified CentOS ISO with some extra
>> RPMs added, unneeded RPMs removed and containing a modified boot screen
>> and install selection list.
>>
>>   The list says "CentOS", so a user knows the installed appliance will
>> be based on CentOS, but it also has our project's branding along with it
>> (splash screen, our custom installer's images and text, etc). We do not
>> modify /etc/issue, /etc/redhat-release or so one.
>>
>>   So I wanted to ask the community if this is OK, as I think I'm sitting
>> in something of a gray area between a straight custom CentOS ISO and a
>> new distro. If this isn't the right place to ask, a pointer to the right
>> place would be much appreciated.
>>
>>   I am happy to answer any further questions (here or in private) from
>> the CentOS team if it would help clarify things.
>>
>> Cheers!
> 
> Woops'ed the Subject; s/package/project/
> 
> An auspicious start! :)
> 

You can't do that and be in agreement with the terms of our logo/name
trademark usage rules.

But you COULD do this:

Not mess with the installer, repodata, or directories and files we put
on the ISO .. but, in a separate directory on the media, add in your
packages and install them via a kickstart instead so it installs non
modified CentOS and THEN your packages.

If you MODIFY items we provide, you can not say it is CentOS (so you
need to rebrand).  If you add things to it on the end, then you can call
it "your program on CentOS Linux".

The bottom line is, you can't change the files we create or the
repodata/installer and still call it CentOS.

And before someone complains, you also can't take a Debian (or Ubuntu or
Fedora, etc) install iso, and modify the installer to change the content
then distribute it and call it Debian (or Ubuntu or Fedora).

Thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] Redistributing CentOS as part of a package

[Digimer]

On 01/06/15 02:32 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 06/01/2015 11:09 AM, Digimer wrote:
>> On 01/06/15 12:00 PM, Digimer wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>>   I'm developing a program that is not a distro, per-se, but sort of
>>> acts like one. Basically, it's a modified CentOS ISO with some extra
>>> RPMs added, unneeded RPMs removed and containing a modified boot screen
>>> and install selection list.
>>>
>>>   The list says "CentOS", so a user knows the installed appliance will
>>> be based on CentOS, but it also has our project's branding along with it
>>> (splash screen, our custom installer's images and text, etc). We do not
>>> modify /etc/issue, /etc/redhat-release or so one.
>>>
>>>   So I wanted to ask the community if this is OK, as I think I'm sitting
>>> in something of a gray area between a straight custom CentOS ISO and a
>>> new distro. If this isn't the right place to ask, a pointer to the right
>>> place would be much appreciated.
>>>
>>>   I am happy to answer any further questions (here or in private) from
>>> the CentOS team if it would help clarify things.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>
>> Woops'ed the Subject; s/package/project/
>>
>> An auspicious start! :)
>>
> 
> You can't do that and be in agreement with the terms of our logo/name
> trademark usage rules.
> 
> But you COULD do this:
> 
> Not mess with the installer, repodata, or directories and files we put
> on the ISO .. but, in a separate directory on the media, add in your
> packages and install them via a kickstart instead so it installs non
> modified CentOS and THEN your packages.
> 
> If you MODIFY items we provide, you can not say it is CentOS (so you
> need to rebrand).  If you add things to it on the end, then you can call
> it "your program on CentOS Linux".
> 
> The bottom line is, you can't change the files we create or the
> repodata/installer and still call it CentOS.
> 
> And before someone complains, you also can't take a Debian (or Ubuntu or
> Fedora, etc) install iso, and modify the installer to change the content
> then distribute it and call it Debian (or Ubuntu or Fedora).
> 
> Thanks,
> Johnny Hughes

I'm asking because I want to play nice, so I appreciate your reply.

I'm fine with leaving the stock Packages and repodata alone if that is
what is needed. I assume that, if I use this other directory, I can
include the updated RPMs released since the last y-stream release?

Assuming this is enough, how would changing the initial boot screen to
add our project's install options work? Our project is called "Striker",
so could I create a custom boot screen that said "Install Striker {1,2}
on CentOS 6.6" and be OK?

Perhaps another way to look at this is;

What if I didn't use the "CentOS" name in the ISO name or install
screens? I'd rather give credit to CentOS, but if I can remove the
CentOS branding during the install then my current approach will
continue to work. If I went this route, though, would I be obligated to
strip the CentOS branding across the board? If so, I'm not interested in
that.

Another option, which I freely admit to knowing little about at this
time, are the SIGs. Perhaps the better approach is to create a SIG?
Perhaps this is not at all appropriate...

I should mention; Our project[1][2] is full open source, in case that
makes a difference.

Thanks for such a quick reply!

digimer.

1. https://github.com/digimer/striker
2. https://alteeve.ca/w/AN!Cluster_Tutorial_2

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Re: [CentOS] [OT] recover/reset 'owner' password on win7 os

[g]

On 06/01/2015 12:43 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
> On 6/1/2015 10:30 AM, g wrote:
>> i would wipe win7, but not an option at this time.
>
> thats the only sane thing to do with a used computer being redeployed, 
> format it completely, and clean install your desired software.

so, just what do you think "but not an option at this time" means? ;-)

> there's a util called NTPASSWD that can reset the password of a
> windows system, this util is run by booting a cd or usb stick, and
> directly modifies the 'SAM' in windows

obviously you did not read all of what i posted. had you read
paragraph following what you responded to, you would/may/might
have become aware that i did pull *ntpassword*. note correct
spelling. ;-)

> (somewhat akin to booting a rescue CD on 'nix, and editing
> /mnt/etc/shadow to remove passwords).

if find such can be much easier by booting init level 1 to edit
/mnt/etc/shadow. after which, 'init 2', logging in as root to
run 'passwd' [proper spelling] to set new root user password and
any other user passwords.

being that i "copied files" from pogostick.com, meant that i had
pulled the cd version also, so i burned the cd version.

when i booted ntpassword cd, i cleared passwords for both admin
and owner. rebooted, now 'administrator', 'owner' and 'guest' are
all with out passwords.

as owner, i created the 2 system recovery dvd's and the application
dvd.

logged out as owner, logged in as administrator and i was able to
run;

  X:syslinux.exe -ma X:

now i have a bootable usb stick with ntpassword.


all of which brings me back to my original question;

how can i make usb stick bootable from linux?

any/all suggestion/help is greatly appreciated.

thanks in advance.


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Re: [CentOS] [OT] recover/reset 'owner' password on win7 os

[John R Pierce]

On 6/1/2015 1:59 PM, g wrote:

On 06/01/2015 12:43 PM, John R Pierce wrote:

>On 6/1/2015 10:30 AM, g wrote:

>>i would wipe win7, but not an option at this time.

>
>thats the only sane thing to do with a used computer being redeployed,
>format it completely, and clean install your desired software.

so, just what do you think "but not an option at this time" means?;-)



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Re: [CentOS] Project Management Software

[Kahlil Hodgson]

You could try 'planner'

 yum info planner
Loaded plugins: changelog, presto
Available Packages
Name: planner
Arch: i686
Version : 0.14.4
Release : 10.el6
Size: 3.1 M
Repo: base
Summary : A graphical project management tool
URL : http://live.gnome.org/Planner
License : GPLv2+
Description : Planner is a visual project management application which
allows users to
: manage several aspects of a project, including schedule
tracking using
: Gantt charts.
:
: You should install Planner if you wish to manage schedules,
allocate
: resources, and track the progress of your projects.



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On 2 June 2015 at 02:32, Mike - st257  wrote:

> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:26 PM, H  wrote:
>
> > I have a need to use a project management software package under Centos
> > 6.6 and have started looking at ProjectLibre which is a Java package.
> >
> > Unfortunately it seems to have shortcomings when it comes to following up
> > projects and my current understanding is that it falls short of Microsoft
> > Project 2010, i.e., a previous version.
> >
>
> I have not used ProjectLibre, so I can't comment on its features.
>
>
> >
> > Does anyone have experience with this type of software and what would you
> > recommend?
> >
>
> Years back I used [what appears to have been] GanttProject.
> Worked fine for me, but I was only interested in creating Gantt charts and
> not so much comparing features to Microsoft Project (though I used MS
> Project briefly many moons ago).
> http://www.ganttproject.biz/
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Re: [CentOS] [OT] recover/reset 'owner' password on win7 os

[Jonathan Billings]

On Jun 1, 2015, at 4:59 PM, g  wrote:
> all of which brings me back to my original question;
> 
> how can i make usb stick bootable from linux?

It depends on how you put content on the USB stick.  Typically, I just ‘dd’ the 
installation DVD to the USB device, that way there’s no messing around.  You 
can also follow the instructions here: 
http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/InstallFromUSBkey

Of course, I have no idea how you’d do anything with an OS other than Windows.


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Re: [CentOS] [OT] recover/reset 'owner' password on win7 os

[g]

On 06/01/2015 04:14 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
> On 6/1/2015 1:59 PM, g wrote:
>> On 06/01/2015 12:43 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
 On 6/1/2015 10:30 AM, g wrote:
>> i would wipe win7, but not an option at this time.

 thats the only sane thing to do with a used computer being redeployed,
 format it completely, and clean install your desired software.
>>
>> so, just what do you think "but not an option at this time" means?;-)
>
> it typically means you're living with self-imposed limits.

self-imposed limits? not really. 'norton system works' is installed
and current, including 'nis'. tho original owner did not know how to
lock down oos with 'nis'. it is a firewall in it's own rights.

> I would never use an old copy of MS Windows, god knows what might
> be broken down in the bowels of that overly complex and opaque system.

i doubt that anything is 'old' or 'broken' being that latest service
pack updates were installed. therefore it should tend to be win7.1.
thankfully it is not win8.

to give you a hint and why it is to remain win7 for awhile, think
about following and understand that discussion of such is not
something to be done in an "open list".

   Pooh, say hello to Tigger, Piglet and Owl for me.
   Enjoy what you have waiting for you at home when you
   Return to the Hundred Acre Wood in Ashdown Forest.

in closing, what was hiding in the back of the brain finally over
whelmed the 'chemo brain' and came forward to front. "syslinux".
i have used it a few times in past, but i did not recall it until
a few hours ago. :-)

in closing, thanks for your replies.


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Re: [CentOS] [OT] recover/reset 'owner' password on win7 os

[g]

On 06/01/2015 08:37 PM, Jonathan Billings wrote:
> On Jun 1, 2015, at 4:59 PM, g  wrote:
>> all of which brings me back to my original question;
>>
>> how can i make usb stick bootable from linux?
>
> It depends on how you put content on the USB stick. Typically, I
> just ‘dd’ the installation DVD to the USB device, that way there’s
> no messing around. You can also follow the instructions here:
>  http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/InstallFromUSBkey

procedure described at pogostick.com is to copy a group of files
contained in file 'usb140201.zip' to a usb stick, then from
command line;

   X:syslinux.exe -ma X:

which executes the "syslinux.exe" that was copied to the usb stick
in above.

  X: = volume containing usb stick
  -ma:
  -m = install an mbr
  -a = mark partition as active

oos 'syslinux.exe' command differs a bit from the linux 'syslinux'.

from reading 'man syslinux', i do not believe that i could have used
linux 'syslinux' as it would install wrong files to the usb stick.

as stated in an earlier post, solution was to create a bootable cd
of 'ntpassword' and booted it to remove all passwords. after doing
that, i was able to execute 'syslinux.exe' on usb stick as admin.
i now have 'ntpassword' on both cd and usb stick.

having used 'ntpassword' on win95, win98, xp, and nt systems, i will
say that that latest release is easy to use just as earlier version
that i have on a cd of 'austrumi 0.9.2' is. in fact, it is almost
the same.

i will say that anyone who has to deal with oos should have a
bootable of latest release of 'ntpassword'.

> Of course, I have no idea how you’d do anything with an OS other
> than Windows.

do not feel bad, most oos users do not know how to do anything with
windows, other than play games and music. ;-)

thank you for you reply and the link.


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Re: [CentOS] Native ZFS on Linux

[Fernando Cassia]

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Chris Adams  wrote:

>
> All that matters for CentOS is:
>
> 1: Red Hat doesn't ship ZFS because of Red Hat's lawyers' interpretation
>of GPL+CDDL
> 2: Arguing about it here will not change #1
> 3: CentOS ships a clone of Red Hat Enterprise Linux and so won't have
>things that Red Hat's lawyers don't approve (see #2)
>
> Please let it go.  I think everybody here knows your opinion.


+1

I for one will go with Btrfs. This is where the action is at, ATM, and more
and more companies are investing in BTRFS and going with it: SUSE, Fujitsu,
Docker, Facebook, Oracle...

///
Btrfs 1.0, with finalized on-disk format, was originally slated for a
late-2008 release,[12] 
and was finally accepted into the Linux kernel mainline
 in 2009.[13]
 Several Linux
distributions  began
offering Btrfs as an experimental choice of root file system
 during installation.[14]
[15]
[16]
 In summer 2012, several
Linux distributions moved Btrfs from experimental to production or
supported status.[17] [18]



The ZFS Zealots (ZZ or Z-square) brigade act like kids on a temper trantum
because they preferred toy was left out of the playground. Please get down
your crying and yelling, there's people trying to work here (with btrfs).
;-p

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