Re: [CentOS] Not To James B. Byrne

2014-11-14 Thread Alexander Farber
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Kai Schaetzl  wrote:
> That's ridiculous, you don't even know what's wrong or if it's wrong at
> all or what you want him to do but you have to cry it out loud to the list
> to put social pressure on him.

No, actually it's more like you have to get out of a bus -
And you ask a person at the door to move a bit.
Then suddenly some passengers turn to you and shout:
"You don't even know how to drive a bus." :-))

Greetings from Germany
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Re: [CentOS] Not To James B. Byrne

2014-11-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 11/12/2014 07:19 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Chris Adams  wrote:
>> Once upon a time, Kai Schaetzl  said:
>>> Well, *yes*. It's not business to be carried out on the list nor does the
>>> guy who moans about it seem to know why. And if you are the second from
>>> Gmail then please move it off-list as well. It's really not anyone's
>>> problem on this list what Gmail does.
>>
>> No, it isn't just "what Gmail does."  Yahoo and AOL are other major
>> handlers that do the same/similar thing (and there are other
>> not-as-major email handlers doing it too).  As has happened many times
>> in the past, the "rules" for email handling have changed.  The biggest
>> group of legitimate email handlers affected by this change is mailing
>> list handlers; they need to adapt or get blocked/sidelined/etc.
>>
>> Is it annoying?  Yep.  Is what these providers are doing a good idea?
>> That's debatable.  Is it here to stay?  Most likely.
> 
> So in practice I think this really boils down to the common problem of
> ancient software shipped by RHEL and the bug-for-bug compatibility in
> CentOS with the list system eating its own dog food.  That is, there
> is a fix for mailman, but not in the CentOS version. Sometimes
> stability is good, sometimes you need the updates.

can you file this at bugs.centos.org please

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Re: [CentOS] Slow access from Windows 7 to samba share on CentOS 6.6 after upgrade

2014-11-14 Thread g


On 11/13/2014 12:58 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote:
> Hi all,
<>

correct me if i am wrong on any of these 'note's.

> I tested with the latest available LibreOffice for Windows on the
> same Word-docs, but this one doesn't show this sluggishness.

note1: LibreOffice for oos comes from LibreOffice site, not from oos.

> Also opening PDF-documents on the samba share with Adobe Reader from
> Win7 gives this problem.

note2: "Adobe Reader from Win7" means updated from oos, not Adobe site.

> Opening e.g. jpegs and regular plain text files with Irfanview and
> Notepad++ respectively is just fine.

note3: Irfanview and Notepad++ have not been updated lately.

> Pre-CentOS 6.6 opening any file on the samba share from Windows was
> lightning-fast.

note4: oos not updated prior to CentOS 6.6 update.

> I'm not too sure where to start trouble-shooting. I've tried
> disabling the TCP autotune on Windows for starters, which a small
> improvement, but what next?

interesting.

> Hints would be appreciated. Thanks.

in the past couple of months, i read an article at att.yahoo.com
that oos had started rewriting their software so that it would not
be compatible with gnu/linux servers.

so, if you have updated linux and oos systems within past few months,
i would give thought to relation of updates of both systems and when
you started noticing slowdown.

just 'swag', but may prove out.


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CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2014:1854 

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2014-1854.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) 

i386:
04ed08ddb1825992d3b08e7e7aa6f6160fa9ccca70264648f2d14255a408a567  
openssh-5.3p1-104.el6_6.1.i686.rpm
08c9bc5c3bf34d5ebeb2375673d83667a2b83009174eca8bbb31d41ffa697206  
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openssh-clients-5.3p1-104.el6_6.1.i686.rpm
cc126463d9e948296f19650f62cc7e1036fd4eabeea6ff6fdb5b16e45edd299c  
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openssh-server-5.3p1-104.el6_6.1.i686.rpm
449e1ab7a79098f4f289a7631da5fe05dfd45b168eeece8e02c5d0120b4dc927  
pam_ssh_agent_auth-0.9.3-104.el6_6.1.i686.rpm

x86_64:
c281fdd4d310e426956c239e29d56aa7056b0ca16ef2388ca7a9596253df5c0e  
openssh-5.3p1-104.el6_6.1.x86_64.rpm
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openssh-askpass-5.3p1-104.el6_6.1.x86_64.rpm
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pam_ssh_agent_auth-0.9.3-104.el6_6.1.i686.rpm
5855f8c4977258c913fc05c90446fe3fe07a5bb8ba479f21fd83b6d8aeb63e91  
pam_ssh_agent_auth-0.9.3-104.el6_6.1.x86_64.rpm

Source:
d296e16009ad1bd70003fe543b326d46024f8420dad5efaf5e27480bb91641fe  
openssh-5.3p1-104.el6_6.1.src.rpm



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Re: [CentOS] outside ssh connection from two different ISP's

2014-11-14 Thread Tris Hoar

On 11/11/2014 23:43, Les Mikesell wrote:

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Chris Beattie  wrote:

On 11/11/2014 2:27 PM, Steve Clark wrote:

Buy second NIC and then the original script Jack Baily provided would work.


I'm outside my area of expertise here, but is there a reason you couldn't fake 
a second network card by assigning two IP addresses to the one interface?

I recall that the OP had two routers on opposite ends of the same subnet.  If 
each router used its own subnet and everything was connected by a hub instead 
of a switch, then wouldn't the server know which way the packets needed to go 
out?  Or a switch that knows VLANs, but that might be needlessly complex.

I realize that means installing a hub instead of a second network card, so I'm 
just asking for my own edification.



There's no difference between a hub and switch with respect to
routing.  It might be possible to do something with a 2nd ip address
in the same subnet used as the target of the port-forwarding from the
other router along with policy based routing to make packets with that
source ip take the other route.  But that would introduce
complications for normal outbound traffic.   It may depend on the
point of having the 2nd connection.  Normally cable is so much faster
than dls that you would always prefer it unless it was down.  If the
dsl is just for emergency inbound use you might run a VM configured
with the other gateway as the default - maybe even set up openvpn
there for fairly transparent access to the rest of the LAN.



Surely the easiest thing would be to setup a jump host. Essentially, 1 
or 2 servers, if you want resiliency, which you can SSH on to from the 
internet, and then from there access the rest of the network. This gives 
the benefit of reducing the number of servers that have SSH exposed.


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Re: [CentOS] Not To James B. Byrne

2014-11-14 Thread Darr247

On 14 November 2014 @05:34 zulu, Les Mikesell wrote:

Just guessing, but it may be that you are using POP to retrieve the
mail and getting an "uncategorized" view of new messages in the inbox,
where if you use IMAP (with the possibility of syncing to multiple
systems), gmail's labels are mapped to imap folders before you get
them.



You may be onto something, because I *am* using IMAP (TB's default 
during account setup) instead of POP3.


I'll be looking around in gmail next to see if there's some way to 
pre-sort mail from centos.org (as Miranda implied) before whatever mail 
app I'm using at the time fetches it.
I have never seen an online email interface I liked, so I don't spend 
much time in gmail's.


One of the things that drove me to linux (and I liked rpm/yum better 
than dpkg/apt) was microsoft disabling Windows Mail in Win7 to force 
people to use their online 'Live' email.

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Re: [CentOS] Chromium browser for C6

2014-11-14 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 11/12/2014 03:09 PM, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
> I concur. Enter key, ^M, etc. has no effect in the browser. Same for number
> keys.

This is a known issue, I will have another version soon (hopefully by
Monday).

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[CentOS] Setting up NFS on Centos 6.6

2014-11-14 Thread cl
Hello,

I'm having an unusual amount of trouble setting up Centos 6.6 as an NFS
server. I have already created my exportfs file and run "chkconfig nfs
on".

My copy of centos is running inside a virtual bubble. The server provider
has loaded the nfsd module.

I run:
chkconfig nfs on
service rpcbind start
service nfs start

The final command produces:
# service nfs start
FATAL: Module nfsd not found.
FATAL: Error running install command for nfsd
Starting NFS services: [  OK  ]
Starting NFS quotas:   [  OK  ]
Starting NFS mountd:   [  OK  ]
Starting NFS daemon:   [  OK  ]
Starting RPC idmapd:   [  OK  ]

showmount -e produces:
Export list for (server):
/(directory) (server address)

but when I try to mount
mount -t nfs -v (address):/(dir) /mnt/nfs
mount.nfs: timeout set for (date)
mount.nfs: trying text-based options 'vers=4,addr=::1,clientaddr=::1'
mount.nfs: mount(2): No such device
mount.nfs: No such device



Does anyone know what I need to do to get nfs working?

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Re: [CentOS] Not To James B. Byrne

2014-11-14 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Darr247  wrote:
>
> You may be onto something, because I *am* using IMAP (TB's default during
> account setup) instead of POP3.
>
> I'll be looking around in gmail next to see if there's some way to pre-sort
> mail from centos.org (as Miranda implied) before whatever mail app I'm using
> at the time fetches it.

I've used an assortment of methods over the years including using
fetchmail to drop in my own imap server host before gmail had imap
itself.  But, I've given up on thinking I can do it better than google
does.

> I have never seen an online email interface I liked, so I don't spend much
> time in gmail's.

I've grown to like gmail's web interface - or at least tolerate the
parts I don't like to get the part I do - which is mostly the raw
search capability that I use in favor of trying to categorize
anything, plus the fact that it is always in perfect sync with my
android phone where I read a lot but rarely type long replies.  Try
going into configuration settings to tune it more to your liking.  You
may want some of the 'labs' options.  In particular I don't think I
would like it without the auto-advance after archiving/deleting (that
is, go to the next message instead of redrawing the index list).

> One of the things that drove me to linux (and I liked rpm/yum better than
> dpkg/apt) was microsoft disabling Windows Mail in Win7 to force people to
> use their online 'Live' email.

Given that you can use thunderbird on windows, that doesn't make much
sense, but linux isn't a bad desktop these days.

The main thing that keeps me from using an email 'application' for
personal email is that I use an assortment of different machines
during the day and don't want to be tied to one or deal with the
differences in the way the apps would work across windows/linux/mac
versions even if I went to the trouble to install it and configure
imap sync everywhere. Plus, I really don't want to sync the huge 'all
mail' archived folder but I want searches to go there.   And, if you
haven't used gmail/yahoo/hotmail (now outlook.com) for a while you
might be surprised at how well the new web interfaces work and how
much you can customize them.

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[CentOS] Installing old version of firefox

2014-11-14 Thread Larry Martell
I need to install firefox version 24.3.0 on centos version 6.5. Anyone
know how I can do that? I tried downloading that version directly and
it fails with:

XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /usr/local/lib64/firefox/libxul.so:
libXrender.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Couldn't load XPCOM.
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Re: [CentOS] Not To James B. Byrne

2014-11-14 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 4:07 AM, Karanbir Singh  wrote:
>
>> So in practice I think this really boils down to the common problem of
>> ancient software shipped by RHEL and the bug-for-bug compatibility in
>> CentOS with the list system eating its own dog food.  That is, there
>> is a fix for mailman, but not in the CentOS version. Sometimes
>> stability is good, sometimes you need the updates.
>
> can you file this at bugs.centos.org please
>

There was already one:
https://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=7149
is about this issue.  It already has a comment about centos following
upstream, but upstream doesn't seem to care unless you have paid
support:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1095359

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Re: [CentOS] Installing old version of firefox

2014-11-14 Thread Steve Lindemann

On 11/14/2014 11:02 AM, Larry Martell wrote:

I need to install firefox version 24.3.0 on centos version 6.5. Anyone
know how I can do that? I tried downloading that version directly and
it fails with:

XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /usr/local/lib64/firefox/libxul.so:
libXrender.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Couldn't load XPCOM.


Try palemoon, I finally dropped firefox after finding out they tell 
google about all your browsing activity.  On top of the all the ways 
they've been screwing up the interface for a while now it was the final 
straw.

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Re: [CentOS] Installing old version of firefox

2014-11-14 Thread Larry Martell
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Steve Lindemann  wrote:
> On 11/14/2014 11:02 AM, Larry Martell wrote:
>>
>> I need to install firefox version 24.3.0 on centos version 6.5. Anyone
>> know how I can do that? I tried downloading that version directly and
>> it fails with:
>>
>> XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /usr/local/lib64/firefox/libxul.so:
>> libXrender.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>> Couldn't load XPCOM.
>
>
> Try palemoon, I finally dropped firefox after finding out they tell google
> about all your browsing activity.  On top of the all the ways they've been
> screwing up the interface for a while now it was the final straw.

This is not about my browsing, it's about running live server tests
with selenium. The machine the tests have been running on had FF
24.3.0 and it died. The new machine has 31.2.0 and the tests are
failing. I want to see if it's due to the different version.
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Re: [CentOS] Not To James B. Byrne

2014-11-14 Thread Darr247

On 14 November 2014 @17:52 zulu, Les Mikesell wrote:

Given that you can use thunderbird on windows


Ah, but I also use it on CentOS... I just don't post as much from that 
copy. The point of that is to have at least 2 offline sources to my list 
subscriptions, since if the problem is with the network, having them all 
available only online is useless (my third full year of this list 
offline is close to complete).


I fully expect this laptop to die anytime, since I bought it in 2006 
(its current HDD is ~4-years old)... when that happens my next 
laptop/notebook will have CentOS installed on it (probably 7, even 
though I dislike GNOME3 about the same as vista compared to XP), and my 
backup copy will probably be on an Android tablet.  I've previously 
bought 2 copies of RedHat so I *have* contributed $$ to the cause, but I 
don't care much for the whole subscription model; Community support 
works fine for me (if I was running a business on it, I'm certain I'd 
feel differently about that).

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Re: [CentOS] Installing old version of firefox

2014-11-14 Thread g


On 11/14/2014 12:31 PM, Larry Martell wrote:
<>

> This is not about my browsing, it's about running live server tests
> with selenium. The machine the tests have been running on had FF
> 24.3.0 and it died. The new machine has 31.2.0 and the tests are
> failing. I want to see if it's due to the different version.

i downgraded from 30.x with

yum downgrade firefox

do not know if you can downgrade further to 24.3.0.


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Re: [CentOS] Not To James B. Byrne

2014-11-14 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Darr247  wrote:
>
> Ah, but I also use it on CentOS... I just don't post as much from that copy.
> The point of that is to have at least 2 offline sources to my list
> subscriptions, since if the problem is with the network, having them all
> available only online is useless (my third full year of this list offline is
> close to complete).

Offline?  What's that and why does it matter?   I've already forgotten
everything I can look up on google, so the world stops without access.
But there is hardly anywhere I could go where I can't access gmail, at
least through the phone.

Besides, when you dig up that offline email copy you were looking for
it will tell you that to solve your problem you need to do an update -
which you won't be able to do without your network anyway.


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Re: [CentOS] Installing old version of firefox

2014-11-14 Thread Larry Martell
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 2:13 PM, g  wrote:
>
>
> On 11/14/2014 12:31 PM, Larry Martell wrote:
> <>
>
>> This is not about my browsing, it's about running live server tests
>> with selenium. The machine the tests have been running on had FF
>> 24.3.0 and it died. The new machine has 31.2.0 and the tests are
>> failing. I want to see if it's due to the different version.
>
> i downgraded from 30.x with
>
> yum downgrade firefox
>
> do not know if you can downgrade further to 24.3.0.

I could only downgrade to 31.1.0
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[CentOS] CentOS7 and desktops

2014-11-14 Thread James B. Byrne
On Fri Nov 14 19:04:48 UTC 2014, Darr247 darr247 at gmail.com  wrote:


> I fully expect this laptop to die anytime, since I bought it
> in 2006 (its current HDD is ~4-years old)... when that happens
> my next laptop/notebook will have CentOS installed on it
> (probably 7, even though I dislike GNOME3 about the same as
> vista compared to XP), and my backup copy will probably be on
> an Android tablet.

Having just gone through the CentOS7 Desktop experience I would say that Mate
is, for all intents and purposes, Gnome2 on CentOS-7.  And KDE is, essentially
the Windows XP desktop brought to Linux.  Obviously there are differences,
some more visible than others, but I believe that if you liked the XP desktop
then go with KDE and if you preferred Gnome2 then go with Mate.

Whatever you do, ditch Gnome3.  It is an exercise in futility to try and get
anything useful done in the way of sysadmin from the Gnome3 desktop without
having to first research, install and configure a significant number of
add-ons. None of which are guaranteed to work with the next point release of
Gnome.

> I've previously bought 2 copies of RedHat
> so I *have* contributed $$ to the cause, but I don't care much
> for the whole subscription model; Community support works fine
> for me (if I was running a business on it, I'm certain I'd
> feel differently about that).

Do not count on your current feeling changing in that event.  We had multiple
copies of RedHat EL for several of the early iterations and we moved to
WhiteBox -> CAOS -> CentOS.  Primarily this was because, in most cases, we got
quicker and more accurate answers to our support related questions on forums
and mailing lists.

I am sure RedHat support is of great value to many companies. Probably it is
the case that the bigger the client is the better the value received.  But for
us the benefit obtained did not warrant the expenditure made.  And, given the
installed base ratio of CentOS:RHEL, I infer that this is the case for many,
may others.


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Re: [CentOS] Installing old version of firefox

2014-11-14 Thread Larry Martell
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Larry Martell  wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 2:13 PM, g  wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 11/14/2014 12:31 PM, Larry Martell wrote:
>> <>
>>
>>> This is not about my browsing, it's about running live server tests
>>> with selenium. The machine the tests have been running on had FF
>>> 24.3.0 and it died. The new machine has 31.2.0 and the tests are
>>> failing. I want to see if it's due to the different version.
>>
>> i downgraded from 30.x with
>>
>> yum downgrade firefox
>>
>> do not know if you can downgrade further to 24.3.0.
>
> I could only downgrade to 31.1.0

But downgrading to 31.1.0 seems to have fixed my problem (at least for
now - until I can't get that version anymore, so I do need to figure
out why it's failing with 31.2.0 ... or maybe wait until the next
version comes out and see if it still fails there.)
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Re: [CentOS] Installing old version of firefox

2014-11-14 Thread Thomas Eriksson
On 11/14/2014 10:02 AM, Larry Martell wrote:
> I need to install firefox version 24.3.0 on centos version 6.5. Anyone
> know how I can do that? I tried downloading that version directly and
> it fails with:
> 
> XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /usr/local/lib64/firefox/libxul.so:
> libXrender.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> Couldn't load XPCOM.
> 

Get the version you want at ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/
Runs from from the untarred directory without any problems.

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Re: [CentOS] Installing old version of firefox

2014-11-14 Thread Larry Martell
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Thomas Eriksson
 wrote:
> On 11/14/2014 10:02 AM, Larry Martell wrote:
>> I need to install firefox version 24.3.0 on centos version 6.5. Anyone
>> know how I can do that? I tried downloading that version directly and
>> it fails with:
>>
>> XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /usr/local/lib64/firefox/libxul.so:
>> libXrender.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>> Couldn't load XPCOM.
>>
>
> Get the version you want at ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/
> Runs from from the untarred directory without any problems.

I did that and I got the error above.
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Re: [CentOS] Installing old version of firefox

2014-11-14 Thread Thomas Eriksson
On 11/14/2014 11:46 AM, Larry Martell wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Thomas Eriksson
>  wrote:
>> On 11/14/2014 10:02 AM, Larry Martell wrote:
>>> I need to install firefox version 24.3.0 on centos version 6.5. Anyone
>>> know how I can do that? I tried downloading that version directly and
>>> it fails with:
>>>
>>> XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /usr/local/lib64/firefox/libxul.so:
>>> libXrender.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>>> Couldn't load XPCOM.
>>>
>>
>> Get the version you want at ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/
>> Runs from from the untarred directory without any problems.
> 
> I did that and I got the error above.

Do you have libXrender installed?


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Re: [CentOS] Installing old version of firefox

2014-11-14 Thread Larry Martell
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Thomas Eriksson
 wrote:
> On 11/14/2014 11:46 AM, Larry Martell wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Thomas Eriksson
>>  wrote:
>>> On 11/14/2014 10:02 AM, Larry Martell wrote:
 I need to install firefox version 24.3.0 on centos version 6.5. Anyone
 know how I can do that? I tried downloading that version directly and
 it fails with:

 XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /usr/local/lib64/firefox/libxul.so:
 libXrender.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
 Couldn't load XPCOM.

>>>
>>> Get the version you want at ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/
>>> Runs from from the untarred directory without any problems.
>>
>> I did that and I got the error above.
>
> Do you have libXrender installed?


Yes.
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Re: [CentOS] Installing old version of firefox

2014-11-14 Thread Thomas Eriksson
On 11/14/2014 12:02 PM, Larry Martell wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Thomas Eriksson
>  wrote:
>> On 11/14/2014 11:46 AM, Larry Martell wrote:
>>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Thomas Eriksson
>>>  wrote:
 On 11/14/2014 10:02 AM, Larry Martell wrote:
> I need to install firefox version 24.3.0 on centos version 6.5. Anyone
> know how I can do that? I tried downloading that version directly and
> it fails with:
>
> XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /usr/local/lib64/firefox/libxul.so:
> libXrender.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> Couldn't load XPCOM.
>

 Get the version you want at ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/
 Runs from from the untarred directory without any problems.
>>>
>>> I did that and I got the error above.
>>
>> Do you have libXrender installed?
> 
> 
> Yes.
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Try doing a 'ldd /usr/local/lib64/firefox/libxul.so'
Should give you some hints.


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Re: [CentOS] Installing old version of firefox

2014-11-14 Thread Larry Martell
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Thomas Eriksson
 wrote:
> On 11/14/2014 12:02 PM, Larry Martell wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Thomas Eriksson
>>  wrote:
>>> On 11/14/2014 11:46 AM, Larry Martell wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Thomas Eriksson
  wrote:
> On 11/14/2014 10:02 AM, Larry Martell wrote:
>> I need to install firefox version 24.3.0 on centos version 6.5. Anyone
>> know how I can do that? I tried downloading that version directly and
>> it fails with:
>>
>> XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /usr/local/lib64/firefox/libxul.so:
>> libXrender.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or 
>> directory
>> Couldn't load XPCOM.
>>
>
> Get the version you want at ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/
> Runs from from the untarred directory without any problems.

 I did that and I got the error above.
>>>
>>> Do you have libXrender installed?
>>
>>
>> Yes.

> Try doing a 'ldd /usr/local/lib64/firefox/libxul.so'
> Should give you some hints.

# ldd /usr/local/lib64/firefox/libxul.so
linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0x00cb7000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x003c3000)
libsmime3.so => not found
libssl3.so => not found
libnss3.so => not found
libnssutil3.so => not found
libXrender.so.1 => not found
libmozsqlite3.so => not found
libasound.so.2 => not found
librt.so.1 => /lib/librt.so.1 (0x00e13000)
libnspr4.so => not found
libplc4.so => not found
libplds4.so => not found
libmozalloc.so => not found
libdbus-glib-1.so.2 => not found
libdbus-1.so.3 => not found
libgobject-2.0.so.0 => not found
libglib-2.0.so.0 => not found
libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 => not found
libatk-1.0.so.0 => not found
libgio-2.0.so.0 => not found
libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 => not found
libfreetype.so.6 => not found
libfontconfig.so.1 => not found
libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 => not found
libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 => not found
libpangocairo-1.0.so.0 => not found
libpango-1.0.so.0 => not found
libcairo.so.2 => not found
libgmodule-2.0.so.0 => not found
libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x00814000)
libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x00a2b000)
libXt.so.6 => not found
libgthread-2.0.so.0 => not found
libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x0064a000)
libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0x00b83000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x00ec9000)
libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x006b7000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x001f5000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x00592000)
libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/libxcb.so.1 (0x003f4000)
libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXau.so.6 (0x0038c000)

These libs exist, just not where it's looking for them apparently.
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Re: [CentOS] Installing old version of firefox

2014-11-14 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 03:11:48PM -0500, Larry Martell wrote:
> > Try doing a 'ldd /usr/local/lib64/firefox/libxul.so'
> > Should give you some hints.
> 
> # ldd /usr/local/lib64/firefox/libxul.so
> linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0x00cb7000)
> libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x003c3000)
> libsmime3.so => not found
> libssl3.so => not found
> libnss3.so => not found
> libnssutil3.so => not found
> libXrender.so.1 => not found
> libmozsqlite3.so => not found
> libasound.so.2 => not found
> librt.so.1 => /lib/librt.so.1 (0x00e13000)
> libnspr4.so => not found
> libplc4.so => not found
> libplds4.so => not found
> libmozalloc.so => not found
> libdbus-glib-1.so.2 => not found
> libdbus-1.so.3 => not found
> libgobject-2.0.so.0 => not found
> libglib-2.0.so.0 => not found
> libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 => not found
> libatk-1.0.so.0 => not found
> libgio-2.0.so.0 => not found
> libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 => not found
> libfreetype.so.6 => not found
> libfontconfig.so.1 => not found
> libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 => not found
> libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 => not found
> libpangocairo-1.0.so.0 => not found
> libpango-1.0.so.0 => not found
> libcairo.so.2 => not found
> libgmodule-2.0.so.0 => not found
> libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x00814000)
> libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x00a2b000)
> libXt.so.6 => not found
> libgthread-2.0.so.0 => not found
> libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x0064a000)
> libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0x00b83000)
> libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x00ec9000)
> libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x006b7000)
> libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x001f5000)
> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x00592000)
> libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/libxcb.so.1 (0x003f4000)
> libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXau.so.6 (0x0038c000)
> 
> These libs exist, just not where it's looking for them apparently.

While you put it in a directory that makes me think you have a 64-bit
system, many of those directories that it finds are for 32-bit
libraries.  I suspect that you need to either find a 64-bit firefox
tarball, or install all those 32-bit libraries.

-- 
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Re: [CentOS] Installing old version of firefox

2014-11-14 Thread Thomas Eriksson
On 11/14/2014 12:11 PM, Larry Martell wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Thomas Eriksson
>  wrote:
>> On 11/14/2014 12:02 PM, Larry Martell wrote:
>>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Thomas Eriksson
>>>  wrote:
 On 11/14/2014 11:46 AM, Larry Martell wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Thomas Eriksson
>  wrote:
>> On 11/14/2014 10:02 AM, Larry Martell wrote:
>>> I need to install firefox version 24.3.0 on centos version 6.5. Anyone
>>> know how I can do that? I tried downloading that version directly and
>>> it fails with:
>>>
>>> XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /usr/local/lib64/firefox/libxul.so:
>>> libXrender.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or 
>>> directory
>>> Couldn't load XPCOM.
>>>
>>
>> Get the version you want at ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/
>> Runs from from the untarred directory without any problems.
>
> I did that and I got the error above.

 Do you have libXrender installed?
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes.
> 
>> Try doing a 'ldd /usr/local/lib64/firefox/libxul.so'
>> Should give you some hints.
> 
> # ldd /usr/local/lib64/firefox/libxul.so
> linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0x00cb7000)
> libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x003c3000)
> libsmime3.so => not found
...
> libssl3.so => not found
> libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/libxcb.so.1 (0x003f4000)
> libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXau.so.6 (0x0038c000)
> 
> These libs exist, just not where it's looking for them apparently.


Perhaps you downloaded the wrong arch (i386/x86_64)


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Re: [CentOS] Installing old version of firefox

2014-11-14 Thread Larry Martell
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Jonathan Billings  wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 03:11:48PM -0500, Larry Martell wrote:
>> > Try doing a 'ldd /usr/local/lib64/firefox/libxul.so'
>> > Should give you some hints.
>>
>> # ldd /usr/local/lib64/firefox/libxul.so
>> linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0x00cb7000)
>> libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x003c3000)
>> libsmime3.so => not found
>> libssl3.so => not found
>> libnss3.so => not found
>> libnssutil3.so => not found
>> libXrender.so.1 => not found
>> libmozsqlite3.so => not found
>> libasound.so.2 => not found
>> librt.so.1 => /lib/librt.so.1 (0x00e13000)
>> libnspr4.so => not found
>> libplc4.so => not found
>> libplds4.so => not found
>> libmozalloc.so => not found
>> libdbus-glib-1.so.2 => not found
>> libdbus-1.so.3 => not found
>> libgobject-2.0.so.0 => not found
>> libglib-2.0.so.0 => not found
>> libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 => not found
>> libatk-1.0.so.0 => not found
>> libgio-2.0.so.0 => not found
>> libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 => not found
>> libfreetype.so.6 => not found
>> libfontconfig.so.1 => not found
>> libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 => not found
>> libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 => not found
>> libpangocairo-1.0.so.0 => not found
>> libpango-1.0.so.0 => not found
>> libcairo.so.2 => not found
>> libgmodule-2.0.so.0 => not found
>> libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x00814000)
>> libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x00a2b000)
>> libXt.so.6 => not found
>> libgthread-2.0.so.0 => not found
>> libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x0064a000)
>> libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0x00b83000)
>> libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x00ec9000)
>> libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x006b7000)
>> libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x001f5000)
>> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x00592000)
>> libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/libxcb.so.1 (0x003f4000)
>> libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXau.so.6 (0x0038c000)
>>
>> These libs exist, just not where it's looking for them apparently.
>
> While you put it in a directory that makes me think you have a 64-bit
> system, many of those directories that it finds are for 32-bit
> libraries.  I suspect that you need to either find a 64-bit firefox
> tarball, or install all those 32-bit libraries.

I do have a 64 bit machine and I tried first the i686, and then
x86_64. Got the same error with both.
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Re: [CentOS] Installing old version of firefox

2014-11-14 Thread Larry Martell
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Thomas Eriksson
 wrote:
> On 11/14/2014 12:11 PM, Larry Martell wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Thomas Eriksson
>>  wrote:
>>> On 11/14/2014 12:02 PM, Larry Martell wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Thomas Eriksson
  wrote:
> On 11/14/2014 11:46 AM, Larry Martell wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Thomas Eriksson
>>  wrote:
>>> On 11/14/2014 10:02 AM, Larry Martell wrote:
 I need to install firefox version 24.3.0 on centos version 6.5. Anyone
 know how I can do that? I tried downloading that version directly and
 it fails with:

 XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /usr/local/lib64/firefox/libxul.so:
 libXrender.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or 
 directory
 Couldn't load XPCOM.

>>>
>>> Get the version you want at ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/
>>> Runs from from the untarred directory without any problems.
>>
>> I did that and I got the error above.
>
> Do you have libXrender installed?


 Yes.
>>
>>> Try doing a 'ldd /usr/local/lib64/firefox/libxul.so'
>>> Should give you some hints.
>>
>> # ldd /usr/local/lib64/firefox/libxul.so
>> linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0x00cb7000)
>> libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x003c3000)
>> libsmime3.so => not found
> ...
>> libssl3.so => not found
>> libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/libxcb.so.1 (0x003f4000)
>> libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXau.so.6 (0x0038c000)
>>
>> These libs exist, just not where it's looking for them apparently.
>
>
> Perhaps you downloaded the wrong arch (i386/x86_64)

I first downloaded i686, and then x86_64. Got the same error with both.
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[CentOS] EL5 Security Policy for the final 3 years

2014-11-14 Thread Johnny Hughes
Red Hat's Security policy for Production 3 Phase of the Life Cycle for
EL5 is that they will only release "Critical impact Security Advisories
(RHSAs) and selected Urgent Priority Bug Fix Advisories (RHBAs) may be
released as they become available. Other errata advisories may be
delivered as appropriate."

https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/errata/#Production_3_Phase

In practice, what that means so far is this:

All Important and Critical security updates have been released for EL5,
but some moderate and below security updates have not been, and are not
going to be released by Red Hat for EL5.

I do not agree with this policy, but it is not one that the CentOS
Project (or I) have any say about.  These updates will not be released
for RHEL-5 ... therefore they will also not be released for CentOS-5.

Due to this security policy, I highly recommend moving CentOS-5 based
workloads to CentOS-6 and that every user stop using CentOS-5 as soon as
possible.  Here is a list of updates that are not done on RHEL-5 and are
not planned to be done at this time by Red Hat for RHEL-5 (and therefore
CentOS-5):

> ruby  Moderate
> https://access.redhat.com/security/cve/CVE-2014-8080
> pythonLow 
> https://access.redhat.com/security/cve/CVE-2014-7185
> libgcrypt Moderate
> https://access.redhat.com/security/cve/CVE-2014-5270
> wget  Moderate
> https://access.redhat.com/security/cve/CVE-2014-4877
> perl-Data-Dumper Low  
> https://access.redhat.com/security/cve/CVE-2014-4330
> cups  Moderate
> https://access.redhat.com/security/cve/CVE-2014-3537
> dbus  Moderate
> https://access.redhat.com/security/cve/CVE-2014-3477
> dovecot   Moderate
> https://access.redhat.com/security/cve/CVE-2014-3430
> exim  Low 
> https://access.redhat.com/security/cve/CVE-2014-2972
> cups  Moderate
> https://access.redhat.com/security/cve/CVE-2014-2856
> openssh   Moderate
> https://access.redhat.com/security/cve/CVE-2014-2653
> libxml2   Moderate
> https://access.redhat.com/security/cve/CVE-2014-0191
> qemu  Moderate
> https://access.redhat.com/security/cve/CVE-2013-6458
> squid Moderate
> https://access.redhat.com/security/cve/CVE-2012-5643
> openssh   Low 
> https://access.redhat.com/security/cve/CVE-2014-2532
> libX11Moderate
> https://access.redhat.com/security/cve/CVE-2013-1997
> libFS Moderate
> https://access.redhat.com/security/cve/CVE-2013-1996
> libXext   Moderate
> https://access.redhat.com/security/cve/CVE-2013-1982
>

I wish there was another option, but I just don't see any others .. I
know I would not use packages with moderate security issues unfixed in
production on purpose.  I think this is a ridiculous policy, but it is
what it is.

Thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] Not To James B. Byrne

2014-11-14 Thread Miranda Hawarden-Ogata

On 2014/11/14 05:32, Darr247 wrote:

On 14 November 2014 @05:34 zulu, Les Mikesell wrote:

Just guessing, but it may be that you are using POP to retrieve the
mail and getting an "uncategorized" view of new messages in the inbox,
where if you use IMAP (with the possibility of syncing to multiple
systems), gmail's labels are mapped to imap folders before you get
them.



You may be onto something, because I *am* using IMAP (TB's default 
during account setup) instead of POP3.


I'll be looking around in gmail next to see if there's some way to 
pre-sort mail from centos.org (as Miranda implied) before whatever 
mail app I'm using at the time fetches it.
I have never seen an online email interface I liked, so I don't spend 
much time in gmail's.


One of the things that drove me to linux (and I liked rpm/yum better 
than dpkg/apt) was microsoft disabling Windows Mail in Win7 to force 
people to use their online 'Live' email.


I primarily use pop (and imap and gmail interface when I need to), but 
since I read email with different focus when I'm at home or at work, 
popping the msgs has turned out to be the most efficient way for me to 
operate. I also have gmail filters set up. My centos filter is dead simple:


Matches: to:(centos@centos.org)
Do this: Skip Inbox, Mark as read, Apply label "Lists/centos", Never 
send it to Spam


So in the gmail interface and in the gmail imap setup in TB, I have a 
nice little cubbyhole that has all the centos emails in it.


Then when my TB clients pop the messages, they filter with this one:

name="CentOS"
enabled="yes"
type="17"
action="Move to folder"
actionValue="mailbox://nobody@Local%20Folders/08%20Lists/CentOS/centos"
action="Stop execution"
condition="OR (all addresses,contains,centos@centos.org) OR (all 
addresses,contains,mailman-ow...@centos.org)"


Interestingly, the filter in my home TB lacks the JunkScore=0 action, 
but seems to work just as well as the one at work that includes it.


Hope this helps.

Miranda

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Re: [CentOS] Installing old version of firefox

2014-11-14 Thread Thomas Eriksson
On 11/14/2014 12:22 PM, Larry Martell wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Thomas Eriksson
>  wrote:
>> On 11/14/2014 12:11 PM, Larry Martell wrote:
>>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Thomas Eriksson
>>>  wrote:
 On 11/14/2014 12:02 PM, Larry Martell wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Thomas Eriksson
>  wrote:
>> On 11/14/2014 11:46 AM, Larry Martell wrote:
>>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Thomas Eriksson
>>>  wrote:
 On 11/14/2014 10:02 AM, Larry Martell wrote:
> I need to install firefox version 24.3.0 on centos version 6.5. Anyone
> know how I can do that? I tried downloading that version directly and
> it fails with:
>
> XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /usr/local/lib64/firefox/libxul.so:
> libXrender.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or 
> directory
> Couldn't load XPCOM.
>

 Get the version you want at ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/
 Runs from from the untarred directory without any problems.
>>>
>>> I did that and I got the error above.
>>
>> Do you have libXrender installed?
>
>
> Yes.
>>>
 Try doing a 'ldd /usr/local/lib64/firefox/libxul.so'
 Should give you some hints.
>>>
>>> # ldd /usr/local/lib64/firefox/libxul.so
>>> linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0x00cb7000)
>>> libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x003c3000)
>>> libsmime3.so => not found
>> ...
>>> libssl3.so => not found
>>> libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/libxcb.so.1 (0x003f4000)
>>> libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXau.so.6 (0x0038c000)
>>>
>>> These libs exist, just not where it's looking for them apparently.
>>
>>
>> Perhaps you downloaded the wrong arch (i386/x86_64)
> 
> I first downloaded i686, and then x86_64. Got the same error with both.
> 

Well, the example you gave is a 32bit library, it picks up shared
libraries from /usr/lib and not from /usr/lib64

Check with the file command that you really have installed the
version you think you have.


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Re: [CentOS] EL5 Security Policy for the final 3 years

2014-11-14 Thread John R Pierce

On 11/14/2014 12:22 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote:

I wish there was another option, but I just don't see any others .. I
know I would not use packages with moderate security issues unfixed in
production on purpose.  I think this is a ridiculous policy, but it is
what it is.



its 7 1/2 years old at this point.   its had a long useful run, but its 
time to move on.




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Re: [CentOS] Not To James B. Byrne

2014-11-14 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Miranda Hawarden-Ogata
 wrote:
>>
> Matches: to:(centos@centos.org)
> Do this: Skip Inbox, Mark as read, Apply label "Lists/centos", Never send it
> to Spam

If you auto-mark as read, how do you ever know when it really is read?

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Re: [CentOS] Installing old version of firefox

2014-11-14 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 11/14/2014 12:02 PM, Larry Martell wrote:
> I need to install firefox version 24.3.0 on centos version 6.5. Anyone
> know how I can do that? I tried downloading that version directly and
> it fails with:
> 
> XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /usr/local/lib64/firefox/libxul.so:
> libXrender.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> Couldn't load XPCOM.
> ___

There are going to be many dependencies
, so you will need to use yum to install an older firefox (if you are
using the CentOS version).

NSS/NSPR version minimums are going to apply for firefox, so you will
not be able to go back very far.

But that is OK as most firefox upgrades are critical anyway, so browsing
the web with outdated versions will be very dangerous anyway .. hint,
don't do that.



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Re: [CentOS] Installing old version of firefox

2014-11-14 Thread Larry Martell
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Johnny Hughes  wrote:
> On 11/14/2014 12:02 PM, Larry Martell wrote:
>> I need to install firefox version 24.3.0 on centos version 6.5. Anyone
>> know how I can do that? I tried downloading that version directly and
>> it fails with:
>>
>> XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /usr/local/lib64/firefox/libxul.so:
>> libXrender.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>> Couldn't load XPCOM.
>> ___
>
> There are going to be many dependencies
> , so you will need to use yum to install an older firefox (if you are
> using the CentOS version).
>
> NSS/NSPR version minimums are going to apply for firefox, so you will
> not be able to go back very far.
>
> But that is OK as most firefox upgrades are critical anyway, so browsing
> the web with outdated versions will be very dangerous anyway .. hint,
> don't do that.

This is not for browsing, it's about running live server tests
with selenium. The machine the tests have been running on had FF
24.3.0 and it died. The new machine has 31.2.0 and the tests are
failing. I want to see if it's due to the different version.
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Re: [CentOS] Not To James B. Byrne

2014-11-14 Thread Miranda Hawarden-Ogata

On 2014/11/14 10:38, Les Mikesell wrote:

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Miranda Hawarden-Ogata
 wrote:

Matches: to:(centos@centos.org)
Do this: Skip Inbox, Mark as read, Apply label "Lists/centos", Never send it
to Spam

If you auto-mark as read, how do you ever know when it really is read?

I don't use the gmail interface for day-to-day email processing, for 
precisely that reason. It is why I resort to TB. When I'm at work I read 
all email with a work-centric focus. When I'm at home I read all email 
with a not-so-work-centric focus (unless I'm working from home, as I am 
today). But all email gets pulled to both locations. If something kills 
my work pc, I have a copy at home and vice versa. Which is handy when my 
email goes back 15+ years and google won't let me keep it all there 
without paying for it which I'd rather not do. For the older email, 
those TB clients are the only copies I have. Even though I have backups, 
I still do this because recovery has been very quick this way (just 
replace the dead profile with the good one).


And of course, when the apocalypse comes and gmail goes away, I'm all 
prepared! [/joke]

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Re: [CentOS] Installing old version of firefox

2014-11-14 Thread Larry Martell
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Thomas Eriksson
 wrote:
> On 11/14/2014 12:22 PM, Larry Martell wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Thomas Eriksson
>>  wrote:
>>> On 11/14/2014 12:11 PM, Larry Martell wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Thomas Eriksson
  wrote:
> On 11/14/2014 12:02 PM, Larry Martell wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Thomas Eriksson
>>  wrote:
>>> On 11/14/2014 11:46 AM, Larry Martell wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Thomas Eriksson
  wrote:
> On 11/14/2014 10:02 AM, Larry Martell wrote:
>> I need to install firefox version 24.3.0 on centos version 6.5. 
>> Anyone
>> know how I can do that? I tried downloading that version directly and
>> it fails with:
>>
>> XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /usr/local/lib64/firefox/libxul.so:
>> libXrender.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or 
>> directory
>> Couldn't load XPCOM.
>>
>
> Get the version you want at 
> ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/
> Runs from from the untarred directory without any problems.

 I did that and I got the error above.
>>>
>>> Do you have libXrender installed?
>>
>>
>> Yes.

> Try doing a 'ldd /usr/local/lib64/firefox/libxul.so'
> Should give you some hints.

 # ldd /usr/local/lib64/firefox/libxul.so
 linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0x00cb7000)
 libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x003c3000)
 libsmime3.so => not found
>>> ...
 libssl3.so => not found
 libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/libxcb.so.1 (0x003f4000)
 libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXau.so.6 (0x0038c000)

 These libs exist, just not where it's looking for them apparently.
>>>
>>>
>>> Perhaps you downloaded the wrong arch (i386/x86_64)
>>
>> I first downloaded i686, and then x86_64. Got the same error with both.
>>
>
> Well, the example you gave is a 32bit library, it picks up shared
> libraries from /usr/lib and not from /usr/lib64
>
> Check with the file command that you really have installed the
> version you think you have.


I did have the 32 bit version. I see what happened - I downloaded
both, but both times I un-tarred the same file (the 32 bit one). They
were downloaded with the same name and wget put (1) on the second one,
but I didn't notice that. The 64 bit one works fine. Thanks everyone
for the help.
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Re: [CentOS] Centos 6.6 does not have a default firewall?

2014-11-14 Thread Grant McChesney
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 9:13 AM, Johnny Hughes  wrote:

> On 11/07/2014 09:49 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> > On 11/05/2014 04:23 PM, Jason Pyeron wrote:
> >> I noticed that the 6.6 x86_64 DVD ISO install of minimal no longer
> creates a /etc/sysconfig/iptables file.
> >>
> >> What prompted the change?
> >>
> >
> > No idea WHY it changed ... but I have validated that the exact same
> > behavior exists in RHEL 6.6.
> >
> > A minimal RHEL 6.6 install shows these files only in /etc/sysconfig/
> >
> > [root@localhost sysconfig]# ls | grep tables
> > ip6tables-config
> > iptables-config
> >
> > So this is the same as upstream, and therefore the expected (even if not
> > the desired) results on CentOS 6.6.
> >
> > I also see this:
> >
> > http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=7831
> >
> > Which while not DIRECTLY related, will need to be solved to run:
> >
> > system-config-firefall-tui
> >
> > (If you want to generate an /etc/sysconfig/iptables file)
>
> Filed an upstream bug so that they can clarify if this is the desired
> result:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1161682
>
>
>
Thanks for opening the bugzilla, Johnny.  We just discovered this issue on
minimal netinstall as well.

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Re: [CentOS] Not To James B. Byrne

2014-11-14 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Miranda Hawarden-Ogata
 wrote:
>>>
>> If you auto-mark as read, how do you ever know when it really is read?
>>
> I don't use the gmail interface for day-to-day email processing, for
> precisely that reason. It is why I resort to TB.

I don't get it.  Why auto-mark read in the first place?

> When I'm at work I read all
> email with a work-centric focus.

I have a completely separate work account.  With its own restrictions
and retention policies.  It hasn't always been that way but it seems
easier now (someone else manages that server).

> Which is handy when my email goes back
> 15+ years and google won't let me keep it all there without paying for it
> which I'd rather not do.

I have 100+GB of google-space without paying extra, I think partly as
a side effect of the android phone I use. And I don't think there is
any time-related restriction.

> For the older email, those TB clients are the only
> copies I have. Even though I have backups, I still do this because recovery
> has been very quick this way (just replace the dead profile with the good
> one).
>
> And of course, when the apocalypse comes and gmail goes away, I'm all
> prepared! [/joke]

I used to pull copies to my own server with fetchmail, and later
imap-synced with thunderbird (sometimes including the All Mail
folder).  But the computers that used to do that have all died of old
age so I gave up on being more reliable than google.   Besides, with
the work stuff in a separate account it is almost exclusively list
mail that could be found in public archives anyway.
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Re: [CentOS] Not To James B. Byrne

2014-11-14 Thread Miranda Hawarden-Ogata

On 2014/11/14 11:32, Les Mikesell wrote:

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Miranda Hawarden-Ogata
 wrote:
If you auto-mark as read, how do you ever know when it really is read? 

I don't use the gmail interface for day-to-day email processing, for
precisely that reason. It is why I resort to TB.

I don't get it.  Why auto-mark read in the first place?
Marking it as read removes it from my gmail inbox for the times when I 
~do~ need to read email using the gmail interface.

When I'm at work I read all
email with a work-centric focus.

I have a completely separate work account.  With its own restrictions
and retention policies.  It hasn't always been that way but it seems
easier now (someone else manages that server).
I could do that I suppose, but I haven't and probably wouldn't have the 
time necessary to separate out the emails between the two accounts. I 
already have 6+ email accounts that I have to monitor so I'd rather not 
fork off another if I can help it.

Which is handy when my email goes back
15+ years and google won't let me keep it all there without paying for it
which I'd rather not do.

I have 100+GB of google-space without paying extra, I think partly as
a side effect of the android phone I use. And I don't think there is
any time-related restriction.
It's not the time, just the byte volume. I get ~15GB of space for free 
per account, I think.

For the older email, those TB clients are the only
copies I have. Even though I have backups, I still do this because recovery
has been very quick this way (just replace the dead profile with the good
one).

And of course, when the apocalypse comes and gmail goes away, I'm all
prepared! [/joke]

I used to pull copies to my own server with fetchmail, and later
imap-synced with thunderbird (sometimes including the All Mail
folder).  But the computers that used to do that have all died of old
age so I gave up on being more reliable than google.   Besides, with
the work stuff in a separate account it is almost exclusively list
mail that could be found in public archives anyway.
The vast majority of my email unfortunately is not publicly archived, so 
I don't have that option.

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Re: [CentOS] Setting up NFS on Centos 6.6

2014-11-14 Thread Frank Cox
On Sat, 15 Nov 2014 02:44:15 +0900
c...@qgenuity.com wrote:

> The server provider has loaded the nfsd module.

> FATAL: Module nfsd not found.

Apparently not.

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