[CentOS] don't use centos 7 as a developer workstation

2014-08-03 Thread Farkas Levente
Hi,
May be it's not clear to everyone.. so this's just a quick notice to
everyone.
Don't use CentOS 7 as a developer workstation since currently there is
not included any developer IDE. As eclipse was pulled out from the main
distro and put into Red Hat Developer Toolset (which is imho a good idea
not to use a 7 years old IDE). But Red Hat Developer Toolset is still
not supported on rhel7 this means currently you have to install eclipse
and all other packages from RHDT.
Anyway RH said it will be supported...

Regards.

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Re: [CentOS] don't use centos 7 as a developer workstation

2014-08-03 Thread Farkas Levente
On 08/03/2014 01:27 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> 
> 
> Am 03.08.2014 um 13:19 schrieb Farkas Levente:
>> May be it's not clear to everyone.. so this's just a quick notice
>> to everyone. Don't use CentOS 7 as a developer workstation since
>> currently there is not included any developer IDE. As eclipse was
>> pulled out...
> 
> what a nonsense
> 
> i am using Fedora and guess what - Eclipse package the last 7 years
> lives uner /usr/local/ and not from the repos
> 
> if one can't install an IDE because it is not in the repos he
> likely has no developer qulifications anyways

if one can't build and install a linux os because it is not in the
repos he likely has no developer qualifications anyways:-)

i already build and install a few (!?), but still like to install
everything from rpm and not mess the whole os with packages and files
like on windows..

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Re: [CentOS] don't use centos 7 as a developer workstation

2014-08-03 Thread Digimer
On 03/08/14 07:19 AM, Farkas Levente wrote:
> Hi,
> May be it's not clear to everyone.. so this's just a quick notice to
> everyone.
> Don't use CentOS 7 as a developer workstation since currently there is
> not included any developer IDE. As eclipse was pulled out from the main
> distro and put into Red Hat Developer Toolset (which is imho a good idea
> not to use a 7 years old IDE). But Red Hat Developer Toolset is still
> not supported on rhel7 this means currently you have to install eclipse
> and all other packages from RHDT.
> Anyway RH said it will be supported...
>
> Regards.

Why do you assume that, because your IDE of choice is not included, that 
you should send out a "PSA" style email to multiple CentOS mailing lists?

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Re: [CentOS] don't use centos 7 as a developer workstation

2014-08-03 Thread Fred Smith
On Sun, Aug 03, 2014 at 12:15:43PM -0400, Digimer wrote:
> On 03/08/14 07:19 AM, Farkas Levente wrote:
> > Hi,
> > May be it's not clear to everyone.. so this's just a quick notice to
> > everyone.
> > Don't use CentOS 7 as a developer workstation since currently there is
> > not included any developer IDE. As eclipse was pulled out from the main
> > distro and put into Red Hat Developer Toolset (which is imho a good idea
> > not to use a 7 years old IDE). But Red Hat Developer Toolset is still
> > not supported on rhel7 this means currently you have to install eclipse
> > and all other packages from RHDT.
> > Anyway RH said it will be supported...
> >
> > Regards.
> 
> Why do you assume that, because your IDE of choice is not included, that 
> you should send out a "PSA" style email to multiple CentOS mailing lists?

yes.

and to the original issue: just because it doesn't have Eclipse, why
should that cause everyone to avoid doing development on it?  AFAI am
concerned, a Unix(-like) system with multiple terminal windows, one
for editing, one for compiling, one for testing/debugging is the best
IDE there is. (I realize lots of people disagree.) Until someone gives
me something easy to use that incoroporates a full clone of vi as its
primary editing tool, I'll stick with the plain and simple.


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  but he loves those who pursue righteousness.
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[CentOS] Multi-Seat using Thin Clients

2014-08-03 Thread Aaron Siegel
Hello

I have been wanting to set up a multi-seat system built around my linux
desktop.  Several years ago I set up a multi-seat system using X11. It
difficult to setup and cause many different system errors.  My new
desktop supports VT-d but the VGA passthru is still too experimental for
me at this point. 

I have looked at the USB display link but sounds like there is a
performance issue with Linux driver. I would prefer a Ethernet based
thin client. 

I want to setup one or two thin clients that will connect to my Centos
desktop for my home. Does anyone have any suggestion. At this point I
will be satisfied with Linux terminals maybe windows in the future but I
think there are some licensing issues.  I have been prefer KVM for
vitalization over xen.   

Thank you
Aaron 


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Re: [CentOS] Multi-Seat using Thin Clients

2014-08-03 Thread Arun Khan
On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 10:25 PM, Aaron Siegel  wrote:
> Hello
>
> I have been wanting to set up a multi-seat system built around my linux
> desktop.  Several years ago I set up a multi-seat system using X11. It
> difficult to setup and cause many different system errors.  My new
> desktop supports VT-d but the VGA passthru is still too experimental for
> me at this point.

No need for Virtualisation.  Take a look @ LTSP 

HTH
-- Arun Khan
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Re: [CentOS] don't use centos 7 as a developer workstation

2014-08-03 Thread Cliff Pratt
On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 11:43 PM, Farkas Levente  wrote:

> On 08/03/2014 01:27 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> >
> >
> > Am 03.08.2014 um 13:19 schrieb Farkas Levente:
> >> May be it's not clear to everyone.. so this's just a quick notice
> >> to everyone. Don't use CentOS 7 as a developer workstation since
> >> currently there is not included any developer IDE. As eclipse was
> >> pulled out...
> >
> > what a nonsense
> >
> > i am using Fedora and guess what - Eclipse package the last 7 years
> > lives uner /usr/local/ and not from the repos
> >
> > if one can't install an IDE because it is not in the repos he
> > likely has no developer qulifications anyways
>
> if one can't build and install a linux os because it is not in the
> repos he likely has no developer qualifications anyways:-)
>
> i already build and install a few (!?), but still like to install
> everything from rpm and not mess the whole os with packages and files
> like on windows..
>
> Nooo! Developers are not and should never be sysadmins!!! I'd give a
developer a ready built base system and what he/she installs on it then, I
don't really care.

Cheers,

Cliff
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