Re: [CentOS] journalctl and log server

[James Hogarth]

On 10 Jul 2014 23:26, "Matthew Miller"  wrote:
> (In
> fact, you can even turn off persistent journald if you like.) Or, you can
> use 'imjournal' for more sophisticated integration if you like -- see
> .
>

In fact in EL7 the default behaviour is no persistent journald since the
logging is set to auto and there is no /var/log/journal ...

The default behaviour is to have journald collect the logs and forward them
all to rsyslog to then be stored on disk or filtered or forwarded just the
same as in EL6 ...

On a related note this does mean that if you want persistent journald
logging you must remember to create that directory...
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Re: [CentOS] 7 and Logitech K750 Keyboard.

[Akemi Yagi]

On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Richard Pierce  wrote:
> Many thanks, yes indeed, kernel version 3.15.5-1.el7.elrepo.x86_64 does 
> support
> the unified receiver used by the K750 and Logitech mouse.

Good news. As noted in that bug report, when the next kernel update is
released, the centosplus kernel will have the patch that is supposed
to fix the issue.

Akemi


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> From: Akemi Yagi
> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 7:35 PM
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> Reply To: CentOS mailing list
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] 7 and Logitech K750 Keyboard.
>
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Richard Pierce  wrote:
>>
>> ‎Works in CentOS 6.5 and fedora 20. Not so much in CentOS 7. Thanks.
>
> Probably affected by this known bug:
>
> http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=7340
>
> There is a workaround (temporary solution) in that report.
>
> Akemi
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[CentOS] How to have two interfaces with dhcp using networkd but taking the dns/ntp stuff from only one

[Mauricio Tavares]

Ok, we can take both but needs to be in a specific order. So, we have
two ethernet interfaces, A and B. And both are defined in
/etc/systemd/network/ to use dhcp. How to guarantee that the crap
provided by dhcp to A (dns, gateway, ntp) is the default? To use an
example, /etc/resolv.conf should end up like

nameserver IP.for.A.DNS
nameserver IP.for.B.DNS
domain A.domain.com

Now, this must be done using only systemd stuff
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Re: [CentOS] journalctl and log server

[Mauricio Tavares]

On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 3:00 AM, James Hogarth  wrote:
> On 10 Jul 2014 23:26, "Matthew Miller"  wrote:
>> (In
>> fact, you can even turn off persistent journald if you like.) Or, you can
>> use 'imjournal' for more sophisticated integration if you like -- see
>> .
>>
  Is it me who have not had coffee yet or that assumes you have to
have rsyslog installed in the machine running systemd/journald? For
the sake of this discussion, let's say that is not an option for
whatever reason, so you must make journald talk to the rsyslog server.
What would need to be done in both ends?

>
> In fact in EL7 the default behaviour is no persistent journald since the
> logging is set to auto and there is no /var/log/journal ...
>
> The default behaviour is to have journald collect the logs and forward them
> all to rsyslog to then be stored on disk or filtered or forwarded just the
> same as in EL6 ...
>
> On a related note this does mean that if you want persistent journald
> logging you must remember to create that directory...

  Now, let's say we are trying to prove journald is superior to
rsyslog, so we must not use rsyslog in this machine (only in the
syslog server since it is up and has to deal with others)

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[CentOS] Can't see all files on a cifs mount

[Александр Кириллов]

Awhile ago I've set up a backup of my C6 home server to a D-Link NAS and 
it seems to be working.
But when I mount a share with the backups I can't see files or 
directories not readable by others.
I'm not very knowledgeable in cifs and probably missing some obvious 
options.
noserverino option suggested on ubuntu forums didn't help.
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS-7 on a USB stick

[Timothy Murphy]

Timothy Murphy wrote:

> I see now that it didn't install for other reasons:
> -
> [tim@alfred ~]$ sudo yum install livecd-iso-to-disk
> Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, refresh-packagekit, security
> Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
> epel/metalink
> |  24 kB 00:00
>  * base: mirror.euserv.net
>  * epel: mirror.i3d.net
>  * extras: it.centos.contactlab.it
>  * rpmforge: nl.mirror.eurid.eu
>  * updates: mirrors.prometeus.net
> epel
> | 3.7 kB 00:00
> epel/primary_db
> | 2.0 MB 00:03
> Error: xz compression not available
> -
> 
> I'm not sure what this means, or what I can do about it?

I see on googling that this was a problem with the epel repository.
I'm not sure if I installed the CentOS-7 version by mistake,
while I am currently running CentOS-6.5.
(I'm upgrading to CentOS-7 bit-by-bit, hence the error.)
On running
  sudo rm -rf /etc/yum.repos.d/epel*
I was able to run yum normally.
  
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Re: [CentOS] How to have two interfaces with dhcp using networkd but taking the dns/ntp stuff from only one

[Steven Tardy]

https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Deployment_Guide/s1-networkscripts-interfaces.html

See: PEERDNS
(Not sure this still applies in 7)


> On Jul 11, 2014, at 4:41 AM, Mauricio Tavares  wrote:
> 
> Ok, we can take both but needs to be in a specific order. So, we have
> two ethernet interfaces, A and B. And both are defined in
> /etc/systemd/network/ to use dhcp. How to guarantee that the crap
> provided by dhcp to A (dns, gateway, ntp) is the default? To use an
> example, /etc/resolv.conf should end up like
> 
> nameserver IP.for.A.DNS
> nameserver IP.for.B.DNS
> domain A.domain.com
> 
> Now, this must be done using only systemd stuff
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Re: [CentOS] How to have two interfaces with dhcp using networkd but taking the dns/ntp stuff from only one

[Mauricio Tavares]

On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 6:44 AM, Steven Tardy  wrote:
> https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Deployment_Guide/s1-networkscripts-interfaces.html
>
> See: PEERDNS
> (Not sure this still applies in 7)
>
  But, systemd/networkd wants to use /etc/systemd/network/ instead
of /etc/sysconfig/netowrk-scripts

>
>> On Jul 11, 2014, at 4:41 AM, Mauricio Tavares  wrote:
>>
>> Ok, we can take both but needs to be in a specific order. So, we have
>> two ethernet interfaces, A and B. And both are defined in
>> /etc/systemd/network/ to use dhcp. How to guarantee that the crap
>> provided by dhcp to A (dns, gateway, ntp) is the default? To use an
>> example, /etc/resolv.conf should end up like
>>
>> nameserver IP.for.A.DNS
>> nameserver IP.for.B.DNS
>> domain A.domain.com
>>
>> Now, this must be done using only systemd stuff
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[CentOS] New binary package set for EL6 x86_64

[Jonathan Perkin]

Hi users of EL6 based distributions,

I'm pleased to announce a new alternative binary package repository
for EL6 x86_64.  The aim is to provide a supplemental set of packages
which may contain software not included in your base system.

These packages are based on pkgsrc, a cross-platform package manager.

In this initial release there are 13,152 packages available.  For now
I am specifically targetting EL6/x86_64 (the build host is CentOS 6.5)
to see what kind of interest in this.  If there is reasonable interest
I can produce packages for other targets based on popularity.

To install, download and unpack the bootstrap kit:

  $ curl -s 
http://pkgsrc.joyent.com/packages/Linux/bootstrap/bootstrap-2014Q2-el6-x86_64.tar.gz
 | sudo tar -zxpf - -C /

Packages are self-contained under the /usr/pkg prefix:

  $ PATH=$PATH:/usr/pkg/sbin:/usr/pkg/bin
  $ MANPATH=$MANPATH:/usr/pkg/man

Included is the "pkgin" binary package manager, which has been
designed to operate similar to yum/apt-get:

  # Fetch latest database
  $ sudo pkgin update

  # Search for a package
  $ pkgin search tmux

  # Install it
  $ sudo pkgin install tmux

  # See what is available
  $ pkgin avail | less

Further details and similar binary package sets for SmartOS/illumos
and OSX can be found here:

  http://pkgsrc.joyent.com/

Feedback is highly appreciated!  Let me know if there is anything we
can do to improve these packages, or if they are unwelcome.  You can
email me or @jperkin, or alternatively get involved in the pkgsrc
community - our aim is to provide cross-platform packages for over 20
different operating systems from the same source tree.

Thanks,

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Re: [CentOS] journalctl and log server

[Dennis Jacobfeuerborn]

On 11.07.2014 10:47, Mauricio Tavares wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 3:00 AM, James Hogarth  
> wrote:
>> On 10 Jul 2014 23:26, "Matthew Miller"  wrote:
>>> (In
>>> fact, you can even turn off persistent journald if you like.) Or, you can
>>> use 'imjournal' for more sophisticated integration if you like -- see
>>> .
>>>
>   Is it me who have not had coffee yet or that assumes you have to
> have rsyslog installed in the machine running systemd/journald? For
> the sake of this discussion, let's say that is not an option for
> whatever reason, so you must make journald talk to the rsyslog server.
> What would need to be done in both ends?

That's a bit like saying "you must make mysql talk to the apache
webserver". The journal has its own mechanism using
systemd-journal-remote but that hasn't been included in CentOS7 because
its fairly new.

>>
>> In fact in EL7 the default behaviour is no persistent journald since the
>> logging is set to auto and there is no /var/log/journal ...
>>
>> The default behaviour is to have journald collect the logs and forward them
>> all to rsyslog to then be stored on disk or filtered or forwarded just the
>> same as in EL6 ...
>>
>> On a related note this does mean that if you want persistent journald
>> logging you must remember to create that directory...
> 
>   Now, let's say we are trying to prove journald is superior to
> rsyslog, so we must not use rsyslog in this machine (only in the
> syslog server since it is up and has to deal with others)

In this scenario you would set up systemd-journal-remote on the server
in addition to rsyslog so syslog clients can keep using the rsyslog
endpoint and journal client can use the journal-remote one. On the
server you could then forward the data to the local rsyslog to have
everything in one place/format.

The whole remote logging story is still pretty dodgy right now though so
I would stick to rsyslog for now.

Regards,
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Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2014:0872  CentOS 6 gdb Update
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CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2014:0872 

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2014-0872.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) 

i386:
283b472f5a523580bc93ffc81cc9defeaef33cd108ee092ec60b0b4d1c785351  
gdb-7.2-64.el6_5.2.i686.rpm
5477e1132c03f058c6a485f5474223bc80a8f4d18db1f01d5ed67642ebab2bc3  
gdb-gdbserver-7.2-64.el6_5.2.i686.rpm

x86_64:
b72818a4439bc4c8f749120f2d45aa7c8a77cad466e48b3ed8eef113200fd755  
gdb-7.2-64.el6_5.2.x86_64.rpm
6322fb92f1a6c10b6e3374e6ed8efdebf365b78f5e56e2c01d76b424a7c9c28e  
gdb-gdbserver-7.2-64.el6_5.2.x86_64.rpm

Source:
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gdb-7.2-64.el6_5.2.src.rpm



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CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2014:0874 

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2014-0874.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
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i386:
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initscripts-9.03.40-2.el6.centos.3.i686.rpm

x86_64:
ea0a2eaf0fa9d0eec591633f2fb9d1ae7e39a8c942addf1f311bbc4ce0bcc632  
debugmode-9.03.40-2.el6.centos.3.x86_64.rpm
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initscripts-9.03.40-2.el6.centos.3.x86_64.rpm

Source:
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initscripts-9.03.40-2.el6.centos.3.src.rpm



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Re: [CentOS] CentOS7: vncserver - desktop resolution

[Martin Moravcik]

On 10/07/14 02:22, Jorge Fábregas wrote:
> On 07/09/2014 08:24 AM, Martin Moravcik wrote:
>> Please, let me know, if you have any idea.
>
> Hi,
>
> You need to copy the file from /lib/systemd/system/vncserver@.service to
> /etc/systemd/system/ as per the instructions in the vncserver@.service
> file (the 4 points under "Quick HowTo" at the beginning).
>
> I copied mine to /etc/systemd/system/vncserver@\:1.service and it works
> (I get the geometry specified there).  I'm in Fedora 20 (haven't tested
> this on CentOS/RHEL 7) but it should be the same.
>
> HTH,
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Thanks for your response.

The part of setting, described by you, I did, and the vncserver works 
fine. But the resolution of the desktop after connecting via VNC is not 
the one, which I set in the vncserver@:3.service.
I can change the resolution in the graphic environment, but the 
available resolutions do not suit my needs.

As I said before, in CentOS6 the desktop resolution corresponds with the 
parameter -geometry in /etc/sysconfig/vncservers file. And I would like 
to behave my centos7 the same way.
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Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?

[David G . Miller]

Les Mikesell  writes:

> 
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 8:39 AM, David G. Miller  wrote:
> >
> >> Generally speaking, if a service is broken to the point that it needs
> >> something to automatically restart it I'd rather have it die
> >> gracefully and not do surprising things until someone fixes it.   But
> >> then again, doesn't mysqld manage to accomplish that in a
> >> fully-compatible manner on Centos6?
> >>
> > Can't find the original post so replying and agreeing with Les.  Have the
> > same ongoing problem with radvd.  When My IPv6 tunnel provider burps, the
> > tunnel drops.  The tunnel daemon usually reconnects but radvd stays down.
> > Solution:
> >
> > */12 * * * * /sbin/service radvd status > /dev/null 2>&1 || /sbin/service
> > radvd start 2>&1
> >
> > in crontab.  How hard is that?  And without all of the systemd nonsense.
> 
> Or, if you want things to respawn, the original init handled that very
> nicely via inittab.   Also,running a shell as the parent of your
> daemon as a watchdog that can repair its environment and restart it if
> it exits doesn't have much overhead.  Programs share the loaded
> executable code across all instances and you pretty much always have
> some shells running on a linux/unix box - a few more won't matter.
> 
Just pointing out one of several approaches to respawning a daemon without
the overhead of systemd.  I went with this approach since the problem is not
with radvd or its init script but with my IPv6 tunnel provider.  I wanted
something that didn't require modifying any of the installed bits.  This
approach also means that updates to radvd and friends don't overwrite my
modifications.  Just "playing with" the IPv6 stuff so having it down for up
to five minutes also isn't a problem.  The source of the problem goes away
when my ISP provides IPv6 and I don't need to tunnel IPv6 in IPv4 anymore.

I look at systemd as being yet another nuclear fly swatter.  Overkill for
simple problems that can and should be be addressed at the problem without a
sweeping, system level change.

Cheers,
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[CentOS] Freenx/x2go on CentOS7?

[Les Mikesell]

Can anyone comment on the best remote GUI approach for C7 yet?
X2goserver is in epel but when I tried it on the RHEL beta it only
worked with a KDE desktop due to the 3d requirement of Gnome3.

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Re: [CentOS] Freenx/x2go on CentOS7?

[SilverTip257]

On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Les Mikesell 
wrote:

> Can anyone comment on the best remote GUI approach for C7 yet?
> X2goserver is in epel but when I tried it on the RHEL beta it only
> worked with a KDE desktop due to the 3d requirement of Gnome3.
>

I toyed around with FreeNX on a Fedora (17 maybe?) system some time ago.

I had to modify a few settings so GNOME3 would default to classic/fallback
mode.
-- set COMMAND_START_GNOME to "/usr/bin/gnome-session --session=gnome"

There is also a bug [0] where the session didn't get set properly and the
display mode.
-- use Ctrl-Alt-R to get into desktop resize mode
-- in my case I had to hit that key sequence twice

[0] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=838028


Maybe a few of these bugs(?) will get resolved now that GNOME3 is the
default for EL7 along with FreeNX...


Please give these suggestions a shot and report back!
I haven't pursued this further due to lack of time and shell access is all
I really need. ;-)

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS7: vncserver - desktop resolution

[Jorge Fábregas]

On 07/11/2014 09:13 AM, Martin Moravcik wrote:
> As I said before, in CentOS6 the desktop resolution corresponds with the 
> parameter -geometry in /etc/sysconfig/vncservers file. And I would like 
> to behave my centos7 the same way.

I see.  The only time I had trouble with the display geometry I fixed it
with the RANDR extension.   You might want to try that.  Like this:

...-geometry 1400x800 -nolisten tcp -localhost -extension RANDR

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[CentOS] 1stboot stuff?

[Les Mikesell]

Will anything break if you never log into the console after the
initial reboot?  I just installed my first copy in a VM, and connected
over ssh as I normally would for all access after the install.   But I
just happened to leave the console window open and later noticed that
it was prompting for license acceptance which I didn't see in the ssh
login.On a more typical install, no one will ever log in at the
console after the network is up.   Will that matter, and is there a
way to keep it from confusing operators that might need to log in with
a crash cart much later?

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Re: [CentOS] 1stboot stuff?

[Thomas Eriksson]

On 07/11/2014 10:35 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> Will anything break if you never log into the console after the
> initial reboot?  I just installed my first copy in a VM, and connected
> over ssh as I normally would for all access after the install.   But I
> just happened to leave the console window open and later noticed that
> it was prompting for license acceptance which I didn't see in the ssh
> login.On a more typical install, no one will ever log in at the
> console after the network is up.   Will that matter, and is there a
> way to keep it from confusing operators that might need to log in with
> a crash cart much later?
> 


If your typical install is via kickstart, there is a keyword

  eula --agreed


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Re: [CentOS] 1stboot stuff?

[Les Mikesell]

On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Thomas Eriksson
 wrote:
>
>
> On 07/11/2014 10:35 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:
>> Will anything break if you never log into the console after the
>> initial reboot?  I just installed my first copy in a VM, and connected
>> over ssh as I normally would for all access after the install.   But I
>> just happened to leave the console window open and later noticed that
>> it was prompting for license acceptance which I didn't see in the ssh
>> login.On a more typical install, no one will ever log in at the
>> console after the network is up.   Will that matter, and is there a
>> way to keep it from confusing operators that might need to log in with
>> a crash cart much later?
>>
>
>
> If your typical install is via kickstart, there is a keyword
>
>   eula --agreed
>

My typical install will be arranging for an operator in some other
location to pop in a minimal iso, run the install, and give it an IP
address out of his range that I can reach.   If ssh connects to it
after the reboot, he's done.

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Re: [CentOS] 1stboot stuff?

[David Both]

Nothing breaks. Nothing stops working. I do this all the time. I almost never 
login to a local console after the initial reboot of a newly installed system, 
either Fedora or CentOS.

In fact I have a post-install script that turns off the firstboot service and 
terminates it if it is already running - that in addition to many other 
customization tasks that I perform on every Linux box I install. You could then 
uninstall the firstboot RPM if you choose.


On 07/11/2014 01:35 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> Will anything break if you never log into the console after the
> initial reboot?  I just installed my first copy in a VM, and connected
> over ssh as I normally would for all access after the install.   But I
> just happened to leave the console window open and later noticed that
> it was prompting for license acceptance which I didn't see in the ssh
> login.On a more typical install, no one will ever log in at the
> console after the network is up.   Will that matter, and is there a
> way to keep it from confusing operators that might need to log in with
> a crash cart much later?
>
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Re: [CentOS] 1stboot stuff?

[Les Mikesell]

On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 1:29 PM, David Both
 wrote:
> Nothing breaks. Nothing stops working. I do this all the time. I almost never
> login to a local console after the initial reboot of a newly installed system,
> either Fedora or CentOS.
>
> In fact I have a post-install script that turns off the firstboot service and
> terminates it if it is already running - that in addition to many other
> customization tasks that I perform on every Linux box I install. You could 
> then
> uninstall the firstboot RPM if you choose.

Thanks - if for some reason the network subsequently breaks and the
remote operators have to revive it from the console I'd rather not
have them think missing that step might have been the problem with the
box.

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Re: [CentOS] Can't see all files on a cifs mount

[Александр Кириллов]

> Awhile ago I've set up a backup of my C6 home server to a D-Link NAS 
> and
> it seems to be working.
> But when I mount a share with the backups I can't see files or
> directories not readable by others.
> I'm not very knowledgeable in cifs and probably missing some obvious
> options.
> noserverino option suggested on ubuntu forums didn't help.

Forget it. NFS mount worked out of the box.
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Re: [CentOS] 1stboot stuff?

[Always Learning]

On Fri, 2014-07-11 at 10:48 -0700, Thomas Eriksson wrote:


> On 07/11/2014 10:35 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:

> > just happened to leave the console window open and later noticed that
> > it was prompting for license acceptance which I didn't see in the ssh
> > login.

> If your typical install is via kickstart, there is a keyword
> 
>   eula --agreed

Don't remember this when installing C5 and C6.  Is this an improvement
for C7 ?


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[CentOS] centos plus kernel - moving it in and back out again

[Frank Cox]

I have been reading the bug reports about the problem with initializing 
Logitech wireless devices using the current stock Centos 7 kernel.  It's my 
understanding that this issue will be fixed in the Centos Plus kernel.

However, I suspect that the issue will also be fixed at some point when Red Hat 
get around to fixing their kernel as well.

My main computer has a Logitech wireless mouse that's likely affected by the 
bug, though I haven't tried it yet to verify that.

One of these days I intend to get around to installing Centos 7 on this 
computer, and this will then become an issue.

If I install Centos 7 and then the Centos Plus kernel to get the Logitech bug 
fix, what happens when the stock Centos 7 kernel also gets the bug fix applied? 
 Will a standard "yum update" automatically find and download the new stock 
Centos 7 kernel and set everything up to it instead of the Centos Plus kernel?

I suppose I could go and hunt down a different mouse to use on this computer 
until the issue is resolved upstream, too.

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Re: [CentOS] centos plus kernel - moving it in and back out again

[Akemi Yagi]

On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Frank Cox  wrote:
> I have been reading the bug reports about the problem with initializing 
> Logitech wireless devices using the current stock Centos 7 kernel.  It's my 
> understanding that this issue will be fixed in the Centos Plus kernel.
>
> However, I suspect that the issue will also be fixed at some point when Red 
> Hat get around to fixing their kernel as well.
>
> My main computer has a Logitech wireless mouse that's likely affected by the 
> bug, though I haven't tried it yet to verify that.
>
> One of these days I intend to get around to installing Centos 7 on this 
> computer, and this will then become an issue.
>
> If I install Centos 7 and then the Centos Plus kernel to get the Logitech bug 
> fix, what happens when the stock Centos 7 kernel also gets the bug fix 
> applied?  Will a standard "yum update" automatically find and download the 
> new stock Centos 7 kernel and set everything up to it instead of the Centos 
> Plus kernel?
>
> I suppose I could go and hunt down a different mouse to use on this computer 
> until the issue is resolved upstream, too.

Look in /etc/sysconfig/kernel. There is a line:

DEFAULTKERNEL=kernel

For the default kernel, you can select between kernel and kernel-plus
by adjusting that option.

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Re: [CentOS] centos plus kernel - moving it in and back out again

[Always Learning]

On Fri, 2014-07-11 at 17:19 -0600, Frank Cox wrote:

> I have been reading the bug reports about the problem with initializing
>  Logitech wireless devices using the current stock Centos 7 kernel.
>  It's my understanding that this issue will be fixed in the Centos Plus
>  kernel.

My first mouse, many years ago with an AT plug, cost me GBP 56 (circa
USD 90). These days I use on desktops, laptops, notebooks (all running
Centos of course) etc. mice costing circa GBP 3.00 including postage
from China. These cheap mice simply plug into a spare USB socket.

> My main computer has a Logitech wireless mouse that's likely affected
> by the bug, though I haven't tried it yet to verify that.

Get a cheap mouse from China - plug it into a USB socket then carry-on
working normally.



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Re: [CentOS] centos plus kernel - moving it in and back out again

[Richard Pierce]

I found that you have to get a different keyboard even to complete the install. 
  I thought that was interesting since this wireless keyboard works in the 
early BIOS settings, e.g. F12 for boot menu, etc.   It was interesting to me 
that at a later time when the kernel with this bug loads, the keyboard stops 
working.   I found this to be true whether using the graphic or text install.   
CentOS 7 looks great although it's unfortunate that this situation exists since 
with this keyboard a novice could be discouraged from installing due to what 
appears as a hang on the language selection screen. It's not a hang, it's just 
that the silly keyboard and mouse aren't working.

Enjoying my preview of CentOS 7, but lamenting missing system-config-lvm.   I 
know that was dropped after fc 18. Is it gone from CentOS and RHEL as well?

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On Fri, 2014-07-11 at 17:19 -0600, Frank Cox wrote:

> I have been reading the bug reports about the problem with initializing
> Logitech wireless devices using the current stock Centos 7 kernel.
> It's my understanding that this issue will be fixed in the Centos Plus
> kernel.

My first mouse, many years ago with an AT plug, cost me GBP 56 (circa
USD 90). These days I use on desktops, laptops, notebooks (all running
Centos of course) etc. mice costing circa GBP 3.00 including postage
from China. These cheap mice simply plug into a spare USB socket.

> My main computer has a Logitech wireless mouse that's likely affected
> by the bug, though I haven't tried it yet to verify that.

Get a cheap mouse from China - plug it into a USB socket then carry-on
working normally.



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Re: [CentOS] journalctl and log server

[Matthew Miller]

On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 08:00:17AM +0100, James Hogarth wrote:
> In fact in EL7 the default behaviour is no persistent journald since the
> logging is set to auto and there is no /var/log/journal ...
> 
> The default behaviour is to have journald collect the logs and forward them
> all to rsyslog to then be stored on disk or filtered or forwarded just the
> same as in EL6 ...

Oh, whoops. I'm living too far in the future over here. :)

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