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Today's Topics:

   1. CEBA-2013:1492  CentOS 6 pcs Update (Johnny Hughes)
   2. CEEA-2013:1493  CentOS 6 pacemaker Update (Johnny Hughes)
   3. CEBA-2013:1491  CentOS 6 selinux-policy Update (Johnny Hughes)
   4. CEEA-2013:1494  CentOS 6 resource-agents Update (Johnny Hughes)


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Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 18:22:23 +
From: Johnny Hughes 
Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2013:1492  CentOS 6 pcs Update
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CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2013:1492 

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1492.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) 

i386:
c554608fb85ceddac965daa1888cbab6b1c51abce07f75d46eb9462509085ccf  
pcs-0.9.90-1.el6_4.noarch.rpm

x86_64:
c554608fb85ceddac965daa1888cbab6b1c51abce07f75d46eb9462509085ccf  
pcs-0.9.90-1.el6_4.noarch.rpm

Source:
e5427cca82285e07a1f18ad63276a4510e72ce92c4a3aa0ee00cbc64751ee4a6  
pcs-0.9.90-1.el6_4.src.rpm



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Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 18:22:34 +
From: Johnny Hughes 
Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEEA-2013:1493  CentOS 6 pacemaker Update
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CentOS Errata and Enhancement Advisory 2013:1493 

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHEA-2013-1493.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) 

i386:
fa769c1ad242ded4dfc276d2f00719c797ca2fa0363c7345a070b297c0561d89  
pacemaker-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.i686.rpm
b81c4809ccb6a29e6fc50b384fef44587d9915cf2060219297fd24bc87767c1a  
pacemaker-cli-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.i686.rpm
d720fd86c4c417b107da87936affe1d8aebc8ecf7a4ac404af9f9c5dd1ca51d8  
pacemaker-cluster-libs-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.i686.rpm
4e08f396c77f9478baaacf4208d2d764b7ffc0baa0a14bc7f4dabba655ddde9b  
pacemaker-cts-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.i686.rpm
ab3ec4cb66c2ef70fcea4777aaf68617a39db3ee0b8f27af110e970fa179099f  
pacemaker-doc-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.i686.rpm
be4c50155e19555de591e147a72b31cdd60aa5cb43ddd971fc652bccf5e43ae0  
pacemaker-libs-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.i686.rpm
8f107a4ec7f977b0361a6d4cbb37e5e5d1f876b75be2a6da14df76d1a5ec6bff  
pacemaker-libs-devel-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.i686.rpm
551b658ad9739bd515d6dd88afc83af4f1dac144e86a7c5efae435503ac2c9e1  
pacemaker-remote-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.i686.rpm

x86_64:
ac4da2ab731001a1c3e6b48e5845337e7c2582ad33c93a839d584ba192d04f22  
pacemaker-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.x86_64.rpm
2a540f29a4d02ff0069f87aaf1adc67d181d57d66e341f6c924c790738d07ee1  
pacemaker-cli-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.x86_64.rpm
d720fd86c4c417b107da87936affe1d8aebc8ecf7a4ac404af9f9c5dd1ca51d8  
pacemaker-cluster-libs-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.i686.rpm
7251bb4a55b28c4a179cdb9a0e1a619d64072e041c63a04192fff73e48bfae09  
pacemaker-cluster-libs-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.x86_64.rpm
744a7540ee8b15c0079e13ac9501e6df0ca9fb5f813825c092f73e2224cea596  
pacemaker-cts-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.x86_64.rpm
d8037d7f57aaa35b56d135f6e8698dae7e9925c901ef4af77107c794dec745f9  
pacemaker-doc-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.x86_64.rpm
be4c50155e19555de591e147a72b31cdd60aa5cb43ddd971fc652bccf5e43ae0  
pacemaker-libs-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.i686.rpm
332a6bec79c3cafe71c139762cfd254d45030cb3b81014c2ccde7fd4242f3172  
pacemaker-libs-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.x86_64.rpm
8f107a4ec7f977b0361a6d4cbb37e5e5d1f876b75be2a6da14df76d1a5ec6bff  
pacemaker-libs-devel-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.i686.rpm
11ccf2b673b8327ff631650e5a72ebed8c7350a908557d82973e32338768200c  
pacemaker-libs-devel-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.x86_64.rpm
e160b503305327ca9183a736f1d73a63c63272465ac19433bec99b69822f5430  
pacemaker-remote-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.x86_64.rpm

Source:
7948fdd88bb06c068cee755bd71b7b6eb2ec3625994ed6ae8fff5c2649f8755f  
pacemaker-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.src.rpm



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Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 18:22:48 +
From: Johnny Hughes 
Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2013:1491  CentOS 6 selinux-policy
Update
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CentOS Errata and Bugfix

[CentOS] Postfix vs Sendmail

2013-11-02 Thread Timothy Murphy 
I have two CentOS-6.4 servers, in different places.
I am running postfix/amavis on one, and sendmail/procmail on the other.
I don't recall having any difficulty setting up sendmail many years ago
using sendmail.mc .
But I found postfix very complicated to setup last year.
(It's working fine now.)

I recall that when I asked for advice
one person advised me to read 2 books on postfix,
and another advised me to pay someone to set it up.

I asked why postfix was preferable, but didn't any convincing reply.
The general response was along the lines that it was the "modern" way.

Having looked into postfix/amavis a little further,
it seems to me to involve excessively complicated processes
(at least for a simple home server)
with email going along spaghetti-like routes.

Am I alone in this view?

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Re: [CentOS] Postfix vs Sendmail

2013-11-02 Thread Andrew Holway 
I think "sane" people use exim nowadays.

On 2 November 2013 12:57, Timothy Murphy  wrote:
> I have two CentOS-6.4 servers, in different places.
> I am running postfix/amavis on one, and sendmail/procmail on the other.
> I don't recall having any difficulty setting up sendmail many years ago
> using sendmail.mc .
> But I found postfix very complicated to setup last year.
> (It's working fine now.)
>
> I recall that when I asked for advice
> one person advised me to read 2 books on postfix,
> and another advised me to pay someone to set it up.
>
> I asked why postfix was preferable, but didn't any convincing reply.
> The general response was along the lines that it was the "modern" way.
>
> Having looked into postfix/amavis a little further,
> it seems to me to involve excessively complicated processes
> (at least for a simple home server)
> with email going along spaghetti-like routes.
>
> Am I alone in this view?
>
> --
> Timothy Murphy
> e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net
> School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
>
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Re: [CentOS] building software raid.

2013-11-02 Thread Johan Vermeulen 

Op 01-11-13 17:41, Johan Vermeulen schreef:
> Op 30-10-13 17:38, John Doe schreef:
>> From: Johan Vermeulen 
>>
>>> no I see I have /dev/md/md_d0 /dev/md_d0p1 /dev/md_d0p2
>>> I don't know what is what
>> Not sure what you did with lvm but I would say that md_d0 is
>> the (raid) device and md_d0p* are its partitions...
>> Just do fdisk -l /dev/md/md_d0 (or gdisk).
>>
>> JD
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>
> fdisk -l was what I needed to bring clarity in the name-issue.
>
> By now I tried this on a just-installed Centos6.4, updated machine, this
> time with partitions instead of lvm.
>
> I was able to follow the wiki all the way without EM
> /etc/fstab now reads
>
> //dev/md_d0p3   root
> /dev/md_d0p1  home /
>
> and so on.
>
> I adapted /etc/grub.conf to /root=/dev/md_d0p3/ and deleted the rd_NO_MD
> and ran the dracut commands.
>
> BUT when rebooting I get :
> /dracut warning : No root device "block:/dev/md_d0p" found./
>
> searching through all the files, I see that /dev/mapper only contains
> control in stead of
> the usual links.
>
> Could this be the issue?
> And if it is, how can I generate or manualy add the usual links in this
> file?
>
> Greetings, J.
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I would like to renew my request for help with this wiki:

http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Install_On_Partitionable_RAID1

Still stuck on EM : dracut warning: No root device "block:/dev/md_dop3" 
found.
I think this is a bit of a pain to troubleshoot, because

* to change anything, I have to chroot to /mnt/sysimage every time.
* googling this, I see a a threat marked solved here :
https://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/print.php?form=1&topic_id=43676&forum=55&order=ASC&start=0

but I can't access it.

So far I tried this :

*  http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2013-March/133176.html

so i ran  dracut --mdadmconf initramfs...

but that did change anything

* 
http://grokbase.com/t/centos/centos/133qevz1d8/cant-find-root-device-with-lvm-root-after-moving-drive-on-centos-6-3
also mentions an almost empty /dev/mapper,
so I am now trying to make a correct symlink in /dev/mapper in order to 
be able to boot the system.

So far I haven't found the right one.

Can anyone shed some light on this?

Many thanks.

J./
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Re: [CentOS] Postfix vs Sendmail

2013-11-02 Thread Ned Slider 
On 02/11/13 12:57, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> I have two CentOS-6.4 servers, in different places.
> I am running postfix/amavis on one, and sendmail/procmail on the other.
> I don't recall having any difficulty setting up sendmail many years ago
> using sendmail.mc .
> But I found postfix very complicated to setup last year.
> (It's working fine now.)
>
> I recall that when I asked for advice
> one person advised me to read 2 books on postfix,
> and another advised me to pay someone to set it up.
>

Which is good advice. Setting up a mail server is a specialist task and 
you should expect to do some reading around the subject if you have not 
done it before or are new to Postfix.

> I asked why postfix was preferable, but didn't any convincing reply.
> The general response was along the lines that it was the "modern" way.
>

I think you are probably asking the wrong people. Red Hat made Postfix 
the default MTA in RHEL6 and that alone should be reason enough to go 
with it IMHO unless you have a specific reason to prefer sendmail or 
something else. I think you would need to address your question to Red Hat.

> Having looked into postfix/amavis a little further,
> it seems to me to involve excessively complicated processes
> (at least for a simple home server)
> with email going along spaghetti-like routes.
>

It's also very flexible which makes it immensely powerful. If all you 
want to do is accept mail and deliver it then you don't need amavisd-new 
and can run a simple MTA setup.

> Am I alone in this view?
>

Probably not by a long shot. I would guess there are many sendmail 
admins out there who have been running their sendmail servers for a very 
long time and have no intentions of learning something new.

Personally, when I wanted to learn to set up and run a mail server I 
looked at both sendmail and Postfix and concluded that IMHO the Postfix 
configs seemed more logical and thus easier to learn to me. I don't 
expect that to be true for everyone and choice is a wonderful thing :-)


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Re: [CentOS] building software raid.

2013-11-02 Thread Fred Smith 
On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 03:26:47PM +0100, Johan Vermeulen wrote:
> 
> Op 01-11-13 17:41, Johan Vermeulen schreef:
> > Op 30-10-13 17:38, John Doe schreef:
> >> From: Johan Vermeulen 



> 
> /Dear All,
> 
> I would like to renew my request for help with this wiki:
> 
> http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Install_On_Partitionable_RAID1
> 
> Still stuck on EM : dracut warning: No root device "block:/dev/md_dop3" 
> found.
> I think this is a bit of a pain to troubleshoot, because
> 
> * to change anything, I have to chroot to /mnt/sysimage every time.
> * googling this, I see a a threat marked solved here :
> https://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/print.php?form=1&topic_id=43676&forum=55&order=ASC&start=0
> 
> but I can't access it.
> 
> So far I tried this :
> 
> *  http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2013-March/133176.html
> 
> so i ran  dracut --mdadmconf initramfs...
> 
> but that did change anything
> 
> * 
> http://grokbase.com/t/centos/centos/133qevz1d8/cant-find-root-device-with-lvm-root-after-moving-drive-on-centos-6-3
> also mentions an almost empty /dev/mapper,
> so I am now trying to make a correct symlink in /dev/mapper in order to 
> be able to boot the system.
> 
> So far I haven't found the right one.
> 
> Can anyone shed some light on this?
> 
> Many thanks.
> 
> J./
> //

There used to be another RAID HOWTO on the Centos Wiki, I have a printout
of it here, somewhere,... I used it when I built a new box a few years
ago on Centos-5 and it worked fine. where "fine" means when one of the
drives gave some sort of problem it got ejected from the RAID array and
the system continued to work properly. And replacing it allowd me to
rebuild the array and proceed.

When I did a bare-metal installation of Centos-6 at the beginning of this
year I went looking for the newest version of it, and it no longer seemed
to be available at the URL it says it came from. But I used it anyway even
though it wasn't exactly perfect for C6, it was close enough that it wasn't
difficult to figure out what should be done, and I've got a nice Raid-1
system running here now.

I'd give you the URL it claimed to be from if I could find the printout,
and if it turns up soon I'll come reply to this mail and give it if the
URL is in fact working.

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Re: [CentOS] Postfix vs Sendmail

2013-11-02 Thread Les Mikesell 
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Timothy Murphy  wrote:
>
> I asked why postfix was preferable, but didn't any convincing reply.
> The general response was along the lines that it was the "modern" way.

Sendmail was written back in the days of wooden computers and iron
programmers and uses a macro language configuration technique designed
to be efficient for the computer.  Postfix was what you get if you
start over with the idea of making it easier for the humans.   But,
that part only matters if you need to configure it to do something
that no one has ever done before.  Otherwise you just re-use an
existing setup.

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Re: [CentOS] Postfix vs Sendmail

2013-11-02 Thread Harold Pritchett 
On 11/2/2013 8:57 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> I have two CentOS-6.4 servers, in different places.
> I am running postfix/amavis on one, and sendmail/procmail on the other.
> I don't recall having any difficulty setting up sendmail many years ago
> using sendmail.mc .
> But I found postfix very complicated to setup last year.
> (It's working fine now.)
>
> I recall that when I asked for advice
> one person advised me to read 2 books on postfix,
> and another advised me to pay someone to set it up.
>
> I asked why postfix was preferable, but didn't any convincing reply.
> The general response was along the lines that it was the "modern" way.
>
> Having looked into postfix/amavis a little further,
> it seems to me to involve excessively complicated processes
> (at least for a simple home server)
> with email going along spaghetti-like routes.
>
> Am I alone in this view?

Not at all.  Selection of a mail agent borders on a religious topic.  I 
personally am a devout sendmail admin.  I have been running sendmail since I 
was the sysadmin of a network 
of sun4 pizza boxes back in the 1980's.  I even met Eric Allman at a USENIX 
conference once.  I've have given sessions on installing and configuring 
sendmail at national and 
international conferences.  I once installed sendmail on an IBM Mainframe 
running Redhat Linux.

Are there better servers?  Probably.  According to WIkipedia, the only mail 
servers with more than 10% of the servers on the internet running them are 
Sendmail, Microsoft Exchange 
Server, Exim and Postfix, but these are hardly the only ones out there.

In CentOS 6, postfix is the default server.  What does that mean? It means that 
postfix is pre-selected in the anaconda install script.  If you want to run 
something else, and not 
have to deal with un-installing postfix and installing your own religion then 
just un-select postfix and select your own when you do the initial install.  
You know, check the boxes 
saying you want to edit the packages being installed and make the changes 
before you do the install.

Let's not get into a religious shouting match here.  You know, the my software 
is better than yours kind of thing.  Pick what you are comfortable with and run 
it.  They all do 
basically the same thing, just in different ways.

Harold

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Re: [CentOS] Postfix vs Sendmail

2013-11-02 Thread Andrew Holway 
when in doubt; use google mail. :)

On 2 November 2013 15:57, Harold Pritchett  wrote:
> On 11/2/2013 8:57 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
>> I have two CentOS-6.4 servers, in different places.
>> I am running postfix/amavis on one, and sendmail/procmail on the other.
>> I don't recall having any difficulty setting up sendmail many years ago
>> using sendmail.mc .
>> But I found postfix very complicated to setup last year.
>> (It's working fine now.)
>>
>> I recall that when I asked for advice
>> one person advised me to read 2 books on postfix,
>> and another advised me to pay someone to set it up.
>>
>> I asked why postfix was preferable, but didn't any convincing reply.
>> The general response was along the lines that it was the "modern" way.
>>
>> Having looked into postfix/amavis a little further,
>> it seems to me to involve excessively complicated processes
>> (at least for a simple home server)
>> with email going along spaghetti-like routes.
>>
>> Am I alone in this view?
>
> Not at all.  Selection of a mail agent borders on a religious topic.  I 
> personally am a devout sendmail admin.  I have been running sendmail since I 
> was the sysadmin of a network
> of sun4 pizza boxes back in the 1980's.  I even met Eric Allman at a USENIX 
> conference once.  I've have given sessions on installing and configuring 
> sendmail at national and
> international conferences.  I once installed sendmail on an IBM Mainframe 
> running Redhat Linux.
>
> Are there better servers?  Probably.  According to WIkipedia, the only mail 
> servers with more than 10% of the servers on the internet running them are 
> Sendmail, Microsoft Exchange
> Server, Exim and Postfix, but these are hardly the only ones out there.
>
> In CentOS 6, postfix is the default server.  What does that mean? It means 
> that postfix is pre-selected in the anaconda install script.  If you want to 
> run something else, and not
> have to deal with un-installing postfix and installing your own religion then 
> just un-select postfix and select your own when you do the initial install.  
> You know, check the boxes
> saying you want to edit the packages being installed and make the changes 
> before you do the install.
>
> Let's not get into a religious shouting match here.  You know, the my 
> software is better than yours kind of thing.  Pick what you are comfortable 
> with and run it.  They all do
> basically the same thing, just in different ways.
>
> Harold
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[CentOS] How to debug a crash.. Looks like an abrt file.

2013-11-02 Thread Howard Leadmon 
  I have to say the CentOS machines I have used so far seem to work well, so
I was surprised the other day when an HP DL580G5 I had running  CentOS 6.4
x86_64 the other day for some VM's under KVM/QEMU went belly up.   Sadly the
sucker was a remote box, so I wasn't just sitting in front of the console,
but it looks like it left some files in
/var/spool/abrt/oops-2013-11-01-14:00:22-8047-1 on the machine. The kernel
on the box says it's 2.6.32-358.23.2.el6.x86_64 

 I have never used abrt, and looking for a man page on abrt didn't seem to
come up with anything revealing that was useful.  Needless to say having a
box got down hard isn't really a good thing, so I am wondering if has any
pointers or suggestions on how I can figure out what caused this crash, and
if there is any way to correct this so it doesn't just keep happening.
Bad enough to have a server crash, even worse when it takes along a bunch of
working VM's with it..


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Re: [CentOS] Postfix vs Sendmail

2013-11-02 Thread Luigi Rosa 
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Timothy Murphy said the following on 02/11/2013 13:57:

> Having looked into postfix/amavis a little further, it seems to me to
> involve excessively complicated processes (at least for a simple home
> server) with email going along spaghetti-like routes.

For a simple home mail server that routes all the outbound mail to ISP MTA
every software is fine, also a SMTP emulator written in Perl :)

If you are the sysadmin of MTAs on the front line and you have a lot of users
things change.

When you choose a MTA you must take in account many factors and try to avoid
"religion" arguments.

Among such factors:
* security
* easy (for the SysAdmin in charge, not for EVERY SysAdmin) to manage and
configure
* active support
* security
* interoperability with the other components of the mail system (user base,
IMAP/POP server, antivirus, antispam, vacation...)
* speed
* security
* log files easy to read to trace mail errors
* easy implementation of "new" mail protocol extension (such as TLS)


There are often some sort of "mail ecosystems", that is a group of programs
(MTA, IMAP, administration tools, Webmail) that interact nicely one with 
another.

That said, choosing a MTA is not like casting a vote in a ballot, but making a
wise logical decison after an extensive analysis of the situation.


Ciao,
luigi

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Re: [CentOS] Postfix vs Sendmail

2013-11-02 Thread Fred Smith 
On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 10:41:53AM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Timothy Murphy  wrote:
> >
> > I asked why postfix was preferable, but didn't any convincing reply.
> > The general response was along the lines that it was the "modern" way.
> 
> Sendmail was written back in the days of wooden computers and iron
> programmers and uses a macro language configuration technique designed
> to be efficient for the computer.  Postfix was what you get if you
> start over with the idea of making it easier for the humans.   But,
> that part only matters if you need to configure it to do something
> that no one has ever done before.  Otherwise you just re-use an
> existing setup.

yes. having found sendmail configuration fairly impenetrable (to me)
I've accumulated a set of rules for the sendmail.mc file that do what
I need (it's a mail server at home, serves exactly two users) and 
just copy it to each new system, 'make' it, and voila. but there was
some not-inconsiderable pain involved in coming up with the recipes.


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Re: [CentOS] Postfix vs Sendmail

2013-11-02 Thread Stephen Harris 
On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 01:58:33PM -0400, Fred Smith wrote:
> I've accumulated a set of rules for the sendmail.mc file that do what

sendmail.mc ?  Back in the day all we had (SunOS 4) was the cf files
that we had to mangle by hand :-)

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Re: [CentOS] Postfix vs Sendmail

2013-11-02 Thread John R Pierce 
On 11/2/2013 1:43 PM, Stephen Harris wrote:
> sendmail.mc ?  Back in the day all we had (SunOS 4) was the cf files
> that we had to mangle by hand

now that was some truly scary stuff.the .mc/m4 macro stuff was a 
latecomer.

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[CentOS] 6.4 : How to enable epel and the rpmfusions??

2013-11-02 Thread Beartooth 

I've installed 6.4 on an old T30 ThinkPad, and I'm
in the midst of setting it up. I can't seem to get an rpm of Pan for it, 
nor even to do yum update.

Mousing around fedoraproject eventually got me to  http://
rpmfusion.org/Configuration/ and from there to downloads for the free, 
nonfree, and epel packages (along with a caveat that tells you -- *after* 
you've gotten rpmfusion -- to get epel first :-{ ).

The display on the T30 has given trouble recently; while it's 
working, I tried with packagekit to eliminate the fusions while keeping 
epel (actually,EPEL; it seems to matter). Packagekit told me that I had 
to remove the repository configurations along with the fusions -- a thing 
I'd've done before if I could, whereupon I'd've started over, with EPEL 
first.

I approved that, then tried to refresh my sources in
packagekit in order to get the fusions back. This put me through some 
tedious juggling of non-commutative commands. 

At the end of them, despite a lot of fussing with packagekit and 
some logging in and out, plus a reboot or two, I was still getting error 
messages like these for yum install pan *and* yum update : 
 
[root@T30 ~]# yum install pan
Loaded plugins: aliases, changelog, downloadonly, fastestmirror, kabi, 
presto, refresh-packagekit, security, tmprepo, verify, versionlock
Loading support for CentOS kernel ABI
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
epel/metalink|  14 kB 
00:00 
 * base: mirrors.serveraxis.net
 * c6-media: 
 * centosplus: mirror.es.its.nyu.edu
 * contrib: mirror.raystedman.net
 * epel: mirror.us.leaseweb.net
 * extras: mirrors.finalasp.com
 * rpmfusion-free-updates: mirror.us.leaseweb.net
 * rpmfusion-nonfree-updates: mirror.us.leaseweb.net
 * updates: centos.mirrors.tds.net
file:///media/CentOS/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] Could not open/read 
file:///media/CentOS/repodata/repomd.xml
Trying other mirror.
file:///media/cdrecorder/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] Could not open/
read file:///media/cdrecorder/repodata/repomd.xml
Trying other mirror.
file:///media/cdrom/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] Could not open/read 
file:///media/cdrom/repodata/repomd.xml
Trying other mirror.
Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: 
c6-media. Please verify its path and try again
[root@T30 ~]# 

I should probably mention that, when I launch packagekit, go to 
System and then to Software Sources, everything from CentOS-6-Base to 
CentOS-6-Updates is already checked *except* the one for media. 

Trying to fix that has been an exercise in futility -- I haven't 
found a way to tell it anything to use as c6-media. (It won't accept an x 
in the apposite box.) As root, I got to ///media on another machine as 
well as on the T30, and both are empty. (The other machine won't install 
Pan either; but it does do yum update.)

Clue, please? Pretty please??

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Re: [CentOS] 6.4 : How to enable epel and the rpmfusions??

2013-11-02 Thread Mark LaPierre 
On 11/02/2013 05:25 PM, Beartooth wrote:
> 
>   I've installed 6.4 on an old T30 ThinkPad, and I'm
> in the midst of setting it up. I can't seem to get an rpm of Pan for it, 
> nor even to do yum update.
> 
>   Mousing around fedoraproject eventually got me to  http://
> rpmfusion.org/Configuration/ and from there to downloads for the free, 
> nonfree, and epel packages (along with a caveat that tells you -- *after* 
> you've gotten rpmfusion -- to get epel first :-{ ).
> 
>   The display on the T30 has given trouble recently; while it's 
> working, I tried with packagekit to eliminate the fusions while keeping 
> epel (actually,EPEL; it seems to matter). Packagekit told me that I had 
> to remove the repository configurations along with the fusions -- a thing 
> I'd've done before if I could, whereupon I'd've started over, with EPEL 
> first.
> 
>   I approved that, then tried to refresh my sources in
> packagekit in order to get the fusions back. This put me through some 
> tedious juggling of non-commutative commands. 
> 
>   At the end of them, despite a lot of fussing with packagekit and 
> some logging in and out, plus a reboot or two, I was still getting error 
> messages like these for yum install pan *and* yum update : 
>  
> [root@T30 ~]# yum install pan
> Loaded plugins: aliases, changelog, downloadonly, fastestmirror, kabi, 
> presto, refresh-packagekit, security, tmprepo, verify, versionlock
> Loading support for CentOS kernel ABI
> Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
> epel/metalink|  14 kB 
> 00:00 
>  * base: mirrors.serveraxis.net
>  * c6-media: 
>  * centosplus: mirror.es.its.nyu.edu
>  * contrib: mirror.raystedman.net
>  * epel: mirror.us.leaseweb.net
>  * extras: mirrors.finalasp.com
>  * rpmfusion-free-updates: mirror.us.leaseweb.net
>  * rpmfusion-nonfree-updates: mirror.us.leaseweb.net
>  * updates: centos.mirrors.tds.net
> file:///media/CentOS/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] Could not open/read 
> file:///media/CentOS/repodata/repomd.xml
> Trying other mirror.
> file:///media/cdrecorder/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] Could not open/
> read file:///media/cdrecorder/repodata/repomd.xml
> Trying other mirror.
> file:///media/cdrom/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] Could not open/read 
> file:///media/cdrom/repodata/repomd.xml
> Trying other mirror.
> Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: 
> c6-media. Please verify its path and try again
> [root@T30 ~]# 
> 
>   I should probably mention that, when I launch packagekit, go to 
> System and then to Software Sources, everything from CentOS-6-Base to 
> CentOS-6-Updates is already checked *except* the one for media. 
> 
>   Trying to fix that has been an exercise in futility -- I haven't 
> found a way to tell it anything to use as c6-media. (It won't accept an x 
> in the apposite box.) As root, I got to ///media on another machine as 
> well as on the T30, and both are empty. (The other machine won't install 
> Pan either; but it does do yum update.)
> 
>   Clue, please? Pretty please??
> 

In /etc/yum.repos.d/CentOS-Media.repo change the enabled line to:

enabled=0

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Re: [CentOS] Postfix vs Sendmail

2013-11-02 Thread Fred Smith 
On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 04:43:59PM -0400, Stephen Harris wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 01:58:33PM -0400, Fred Smith wrote:
> > I've accumulated a set of rules for the sendmail.mc file that do what
> 
> sendmail.mc ?  Back in the day all we had (SunOS 4) was the cf files
> that we had to mangle by hand :-)

yeah. if it weren't for the .mc files I'd probably have committed
suicide long ago. :)


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