Re: [CentOS] gigantic memory leak in Clock Applet...

2013-01-10 Thread Paul Bijnens


On 2013-01-09 19:41, fred smith wrote:
> here's the (I think) equivalent blocks from my system:
>
> 08048000-0805b000 r-xp  fd:00 4685290/usr/libexec/clock-applet
> Size:76 kB
> Rss: 68 kB
> Shared_Clean: 0 kB
> Shared_Dirty: 0 kB
> Private_Clean:   68 kB
> Private_Dirty:0 kB
> Swap: 0 kB
> Pss: 68 kB
> 0805b000-0805c000 rw-p 00012000 fd:00 4685290/usr/libexec/clock-applet
> Size: 4 kB
> Rss:  4 kB
> Shared_Clean: 0 kB
> Shared_Dirty: 0 kB
> Private_Clean:0 kB
> Private_Dirty:4 kB
> Swap: 0 kB
> Pss:  4 kB
> 09681000-1072a000 rw-p 09681000 00:00 0  [heap]
> Size:115364 kB
> Rss: 115288 kB
> Shared_Clean: 0 kB
> Shared_Dirty: 0 kB
> Private_Clean:0 kB
> Private_Dirty:   115288 kB
> Swap: 0 kB
> Pss: 115288 kB
>
> I note that the heap shows 115288, or around 115 megabytes.
> Do I understand what you said (below) to imply that in this example, 
> clock-applet is directly
> responsible for all 115288 KB, since Pss and RSS are the same?

Yes indeed. The heap is using an enourmous amount of memory there.
And it is all private data used by this program all by itself.

The heap space is mostly used by malloc and related programs.
So that points to some memory leak there.

What else could use the heap besides malloc?  I'm not sure here.

A clock applet is of course very busy with time handling, and I guess,
does use some feature to get awakened now and then to update what it is
supposed to keep track of.  Alarm interrrupts, sleeps etc.
And malloc inside an interrupt handler could have such an effect.
You could try to see if there is a correlation of that heap space size
with time.  Is it linear? Or does it increase more in certain situations
(heavy CPU usage, heavy disk usage, when you have a VM-client running
on the system at the same time,...)?

I've not looked into the source code of the clock applet.
Neither do I have an explanation why the problem disappears some
time later, as many people have observed, and as happend on my system too.
Was that due to an upgrade of some package? Or due to a different
sequence of events that happen to free after the malloc in the
right order?.

I guess you are sure you're running all programs updated to the current 5.8 
version.



> top currently
> shows:
>
>PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  SWAP CODE DATA 
> nFLT nDRT COMMAND
> 23350 fredex16   0  240m 124m 9.9m S  0.7  3.2   1:25.71 115m   76 125m   
>  10 clock-applet
>
> note that I've enabled some other memory-related columns here. I think it may 
> be
> interesting to see that the swap amount appears to be the same as (or at 
> least close)
> the size/rss/private-dirty/pss entries from the [heap] section shown above.

In modern Linux, I understand, the notion of swap, as we learned it from the 
early days
is heavily changed. I'm not sure anymore if swap here means:  paged out to swap 
space,
or reserved in swap space, or something else.
The DATA is indeed 125m, and that is indeed the heap above.


> Another thing that might be interesting to try is to kill the clock-applet 
> and leave it
> dead for a while, and see if top starts reporting that memory to some other 
> app(let).

That would then verify the claim that the leak is not real (the above shows the 
contrary,
I think), and gnome programs interact with each other in much more deeper ways 
than
you would expect.


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[CentOS] OpenSSL 1.0.1c for CentOS 6.3

2013-01-10 Thread Bry8 Star
Hi,
another user on different mailing list pointed out openssl 1.0.1c
from fedora 18 will work on centos 6.3, and also warned on replacing
core components, and i also know as well, various other component
starts to fail/stop working, like openssh, etc, if not properly
pre-configured after a upgrade.

Can anyone point out to a detail helpful & working article ? which
will help on replacing CentOS 6.3 older 1.0.0-25 openssl with the
latest+stable openssl 1.0.1c ?

initially i was able to compile/load them on a different/2nd
directory, and manually/directly use them.

but would be very helpful if default openssl could be upgraded.

Thanks in advance,
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Re: [CentOS] Anybody running cadence on CentOS 6 ?

2013-01-10 Thread Roberto Nunnari
James A. Peltier wrote:
> - Original Message -
> | On Wed, 9 Jan 2013, Connie Sieh wrote:
> | 
> | > On Wed, 9 Jan 2013, Roberto Nunnari wrote:
> | >
> | >> Hi all.
> | >>
> | >> So.. as the problem with the video driver and CentOS 5 seems to be
> | >> hard
> | >> to solve, I'll try to migrate to CentOS 6.
> | >>
> | >> I'd like to ask if anybody is successfully running cadence and
> | >> plugins
> | >> on CentOS 6 and if it is running as well as it was on CentOS 5..
> | >> If any, what problems may I see running cadence on CentOS 6 ?
> | >
> | > We are running Cadence on Scientific Linux 6.  Do note that there
> | > are
> | > "multiple" Cadence products.  Which specifically are you having
> | > issues
> | > with?
> | 
> | Never mind.  It is running on SL 5 .
> | 
> | Can you add "real" graphics hardware such as a Nvidia card.
> | 
> | -Connie Sieh
> 
> Yes we are.  On Quadro and enthusiast class equipment.  CentOS 5 works fine, 
> but we haven't done any sufficient CentOS 6 testing because other software 
> vendors in Engineering are still not certified for the platform.  What kind 
> of problems are you having?  Perhaps some of our findings will still apply.
> 

YES! Thank you very much to all!
Following your advice, I just plugged in a dedicated video card, added 
proprietary drivers, and now it works fine on CentOS 5!
This list is wonderful!! :-)

Best regards.
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Re: [CentOS] firefox 18

2013-01-10 Thread lhecking

> ./firefox: symbol lookup error: ./libstdc++.so.6: undefined symbol: 
> _ZNSt7num_getIcSt19istreambuf_iteratorIcSt11char_traitsIcEEE2idE, version 
> GLIBCXX_3.4
> 
> and dunno either what I've done wrong, or what other things need to be
> brought over.
> 
> Clues appreciated. :)
 
 Haven't quite figured it out yet. What has worked for me so far with the
 previous versions was a newer libstdc++ from, I think, Fedora 9
 (libstdc++-4.3.0-8.x86_64.rpm). The issue with ff18 is related to nss
 somehow. I found some posts in a mozdev forum that make it look like ff18
 is linked against nss 3.14.1 or .2 beta, but runnable against 3.14. Which
 is interesting because it appears to work on CentOS6, which has nss 3.13.5.

 The next thing I was going to try was building a shared lib from nss-3.14.1
 based on the nss 3.14.5 el5 srpm, but I have a feeling this may not be
 enough.


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[CentOS] GnuTLS v3.1.6 on CentOS 6.3

2013-01-10 Thread Bry8 Star
Hi,
on CentOS 6.3 (32-bit) current & default GnuTLS is version
2.8.5-4.el6_2.2 gnutls.i686

( where can i get a src rpm for at-least trying it from a
2nd/different directory ? )

Can someone kindly point to an article that will help to effectively
upgrade to GnuTLS v3.1.1 or later+stable version, on CentOS 6.3
(32-bit) ?

Need the DANE supported GnuTLS, will be used for various GnuTLS
depended apps.

Thanks in advance,
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Re: [CentOS] GnuTLS v3.1.6 on CentOS 6.3

2013-01-10 Thread Ibrahim Yurtseven
On 10.01.2013 10:41, Bry8 Star wrote:
> Hi,
Hi

> on CentOS 6.3 (32-bit) current & default GnuTLS is version
> 2.8.5-4.el6_2.2 gnutls.i686
This is correct!

> ( where can i get a src rpm for at-least trying it from a
> 2nd/different directory ? )
yumdownloader --source gnutls
will download the src.rpm in the current directory

> Can someone kindly point to an article that will help to effectively
> upgrade to GnuTLS v3.1.1 or later+stable version, on CentOS 6.3
> (32-bit) ?
download a newer version from fedora and rebuild (maybe with new 
dependencies) it on your system and install it.
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Re: [CentOS] firefox 18

2013-01-10 Thread John Doe
From: fred smith 

> Has anyone managed to get FF 18.0 to work on Centos 5.8?
> I've been hacking at it, placing a stack of .so files (from Centos 6)
> into a private directory, then using LD_LIBRARY_PATH to point the system to 
> (in a shellscript that subsequently invokes ff 18) but so far I've not
> managed to find the right combination. I've moved over libstdc++, all
> or nearly all the .so files from glib2 and glibc packages. now I"m
> getting:
> 
> ./firefox: symbol lookup error: ./libstdc++.so.6: undefined symbol: 
> _ZNSt7num_getIcSt19istreambuf_iteratorIcSt11char_traitsIcEEE2idE, version 
> GLIBCXX_3.4

I tried to update to 18, and it did not complain about libstd++...
I think I only copied:
  libstdc++.so.6 -> libstdc++.so.6.0.10*
  libstdc++.so.6.0.10*
No other lib or script...
But 18 complained about: "Couldn't load XRE functions."
Went back to 17.0.1 in the mean time...

JD
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Re: [CentOS] default journal mode of ext3

2013-01-10 Thread John Doe
From: Yungwei Chen 

> I found some articles (like https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=75152) 
> on 
> the Internet saying that the default journal mode is writeback. Is that 
> correct?
> And is the journal mode of the following device writeback too? Thanks.

mount man page says:
  data={journal|ordered|writeback}
  Specifies the journalling  mode  for  file  data.   Metadata  is
  always  journaled.   To use modes other than ordered on the root
  filesystem, pass the mode to the kernel as boot parameter,  e.g.
  rootflags=data=journal.

It seems to say that the defaults are:
  meta: always journaled
  data: ordered

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Re: [CentOS] firefox 18

2013-01-10 Thread fred smith
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 02:29:02AM -0800, John Doe wrote:
> From: fred smith 
> 
> > Has anyone managed to get FF 18.0 to work on Centos 5.8?
> > I've been hacking at it, placing a stack of .so files (from Centos 6)
> > into a private directory, then using LD_LIBRARY_PATH to point the system to 
> > (in a shellscript that subsequently invokes ff 18) but so far I've not
> > managed to find the right combination. I've moved over libstdc++, all
> > or nearly all the .so files from glib2 and glibc packages. now I"m
> > getting:
> > 
> > ./firefox: symbol lookup error: ./libstdc++.so.6: undefined symbol: 
> > _ZNSt7num_getIcSt19istreambuf_iteratorIcSt11char_traitsIcEEE2idE, version 
> > GLIBCXX_3.4
> 
> I tried to update to 18, and it did not complain about libstd++...
> I think I only copied:
>   libstdc++.so.6 -> libstdc++.so.6.0.10*
>   libstdc++.so.6.0.10*
> No other lib or script...
> But 18 complained about: "Couldn't load XRE functions."

Yeah, that's what I got, too. Someone on the mozilla site said that
it requires a later glibc, which is what got me going on moving over
glibc and glib package shared objects from a centos-6 box.

> Went back to 17.0.1 in the mean time...

me too.


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Re: [CentOS] firefox 18

2013-01-10 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 01/10/2013 07:16 AM, fred smith wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 02:29:02AM -0800, John Doe wrote:
>> From: fred smith 
>>
>>> Has anyone managed to get FF 18.0 to work on Centos 5.8?
>>> I've been hacking at it, placing a stack of .so files (from Centos 6)
>>> into a private directory, then using LD_LIBRARY_PATH to point the system to 
>>> (in a shellscript that subsequently invokes ff 18) but so far I've not
>>> managed to find the right combination. I've moved over libstdc++, all
>>> or nearly all the .so files from glib2 and glibc packages. now I"m
>>> getting:
>>>
>>> ./firefox: symbol lookup error: ./libstdc++.so.6: undefined symbol: 
>>> _ZNSt7num_getIcSt19istreambuf_iteratorIcSt11char_traitsIcEEE2idE, version 
>>> GLIBCXX_3.4
>> I tried to update to 18, and it did not complain about libstd++...
>> I think I only copied:
>>   libstdc++.so.6 -> libstdc++.so.6.0.10*
>>   libstdc++.so.6.0.10*
>> No other lib or script...
>> But 18 complained about: "Couldn't load XRE functions."
> Yeah, that's what I got, too. Someone on the mozilla site said that
> it requires a later glibc, which is what got me going on moving over
> glibc and glib package shared objects from a centos-6 box.
>
>> Went back to 17.0.1 in the mean time...
> me too.
>
>

You guys do know that we are fairly up2date with firefox/thunderbird on
their ESR program right?

The Firefox/Thunderbird we have is totally updated for security and gets
upstream support from Mozilla.  It does not have every feature, but it
has most and should stay on ESR.

http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/





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Re: [CentOS] firefox 18

2013-01-10 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 01/10/2013 07:37 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 01/10/2013 07:16 AM, fred smith wrote:
>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 02:29:02AM -0800, John Doe wrote:
>>> From: fred smith 
>>>
 Has anyone managed to get FF 18.0 to work on Centos 5.8?
 I've been hacking at it, placing a stack of .so files (from Centos 6)
 into a private directory, then using LD_LIBRARY_PATH to point the system 
 to 
 (in a shellscript that subsequently invokes ff 18) but so far I've not
 managed to find the right combination. I've moved over libstdc++, all
 or nearly all the .so files from glib2 and glibc packages. now I"m
 getting:

 ./firefox: symbol lookup error: ./libstdc++.so.6: undefined symbol: 
 _ZNSt7num_getIcSt19istreambuf_iteratorIcSt11char_traitsIcEEE2idE, version 
 GLIBCXX_3.4
>>> I tried to update to 18, and it did not complain about libstd++...
>>> I think I only copied:
>>>   libstdc++.so.6 -> libstdc++.so.6.0.10*
>>>   libstdc++.so.6.0.10*
>>> No other lib or script...
>>> But 18 complained about: "Couldn't load XRE functions."
>> Yeah, that's what I got, too. Someone on the mozilla site said that
>> it requires a later glibc, which is what got me going on moving over
>> glibc and glib package shared objects from a centos-6 box.
>>
>>> Went back to 17.0.1 in the mean time...
>> me too.
>>
>>
> You guys do know that we are fairly up2date with firefox/thunderbird on
> their ESR program right?
>
> The Firefox/Thunderbird we have is totally updated for security and gets
> upstream support from Mozilla.  It does not have every feature, but it
> has most and should stay on ESR.
>
> http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/
>

More info:

http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/faq/





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Re: [CentOS] firefox 18

2013-01-10 Thread Theo Band
On 01/10/2013 02:39 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> You guys do know that we are fairly up2date with firefox/thunderbird on
> >their ESR program right?
> >
> >The Firefox/Thunderbird we have is totally updated for security and gets
> >upstream support from Mozilla.  It does not have every feature, but it
> >has most and should stay on ESR.
> >
> >http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/
> >
Does the version bundled with Centos6 also track this schedule? It's 
currently 10.0.12 which made me decide to remove it from all desktop 
installations and install the newest on the fileserver. It's a bit of a 
hassle to do start though (the nice menu entries get lost as well).
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Re: [CentOS] firefox 18

2013-01-10 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 01/10/2013 07:47 AM, Theo Band wrote:
> On 01/10/2013 02:39 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>> You guys do know that we are fairly up2date with firefox/thunderbird on
>>> their ESR program right?
>>>
>>> The Firefox/Thunderbird we have is totally updated for security and gets
>>> upstream support from Mozilla.  It does not have every feature, but it
>>> has most and should stay on ESR.
>>>
>>> http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/
>>>
> Does the version bundled with Centos6 also track this schedule? It's 
> currently 10.0.12 which made me decide to remove it from all desktop 
> installations and install the newest on the fileserver. It's a bit of a 
> hassle to do start though (the nice menu entries get lost as well).

Yes ... CentOS-5 and CentOS-6 are on ESR ... of course, we build what
the release in RHEL sources.

But, my understanding of the plan is that they are staying on the ESR
track, so they will upgrade 10 ESR to the new ESR before mozilla EOLs
the current ESR.

17.x looks like it will be the next ESR.

WRT CentOS-5 specifically, we are in the middle of the 5.9 release so
that 10.0.12.el5 is delayed for 1 or 2 days as it is built against 5.9
and not 5.8.

Our CR repo ( http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories/CR
) in the CentOS-5.8 tree should get the CentOS-5.9 updates in the next
couple of days.  That will be followed by the full release of 5.9
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Re: [CentOS] firefox 18

2013-01-10 Thread James Hogarth
> Does the version bundled with Centos6 also track this schedule? It's
> currently 10.0.12 which made me decide to remove it from all desktop
> installations and install the newest on the fileserver. It's a bit of a
> hassle to do start though (the nice menu entries get lost as well).
>
>
10.0.12esr is still supported (only released on Jan 8th in fact)...
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Re: [CentOS] firefox 18

2013-01-10 Thread James Hogarth
On 10 January 2013 14:01, James Hogarth  wrote:

>
> Does the version bundled with Centos6 also track this schedule? It's
>> currently 10.0.12 which made me decide to remove it from all desktop
>> installations and install the newest on the fileserver. It's a bit of a
>> hassle to do start though (the nice menu entries get lost as well).
>>
>>
> 10.0.12esr is still supported (only released on Jan 8th in fact)...
>
>

Further to that according to the last Mozilla weekly planning meeting
10.0.12esr will be the last in the 10.0.X series... so expect Red Hat to
release a 17.0.Xesr at some point in the next few months or so...

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Planning/2013-01-09
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Re: [CentOS] gigantic memory leak in Clock Applet...

2013-01-10 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:13 AM, Paul Bijnens
 wrote:
>
> That would then verify the claim that the leak is not real (the above shows 
> the contrary,
> I think), and gnome programs interact with each other in much more deeper 
> ways than
> you would expect.

I sort-of remember once having evolution hooked to an exchange server
and the clock applet seemed to be aware of all of my exchange calendar
events but it was really too buggy to use back then.   Do you have any
calendar settings that any gnome program knows about?

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Re: [CentOS] firefox 18

2013-01-10 Thread John Doe
From: Johnny Hughes 

> You guys do know that we are fairly up2date with firefox/thunderbird on
> their ESR program right?
> The Firefox/Thunderbird we have is totally updated for security and gets
> upstream support from Mozilla.  It does not have every feature, but it
> has most and should stay on ESR.

Yes; I mainly use the ESR version; but sometimes I wanna have fun and play a 
bit with the new features...
Weird numbering, especially since the 10.0.x branch seems to stop at 10.0.8 
(and apparently related to 18.x)...
Did they go further (past their 2 release overlap) so that we don't have to 
switch to 17.0.x?

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Re: [CentOS] Anybody running cadence on CentOS 6 ?

2013-01-10 Thread Theo Band
On 01/10/2013 10:32 AM, Roberto Nunnari wrote:
>> >Yes we are.  On Quadro and enthusiast class equipment.  CentOS 5 works 
>> >fine, but we haven't done any sufficient CentOS 6 testing because other 
>> >software vendors in Engineering are still not certified for the platform.  
>> >What kind of problems are you having?  Perhaps some of our findings will 
>> >still apply.
>> >
> YES! Thank you very much to all!
> Following your advice, I just plugged in a dedicated video card, added
> proprietary drivers, and now it works fine on CentOS 5!
> This list is wonderful!!:-)
We use Mentor (also an very expensive software toolset) and I have had a 
lot of issues getting the drivers work correctly (Ati, Nvidia). The 
price for the graphic adapter was not an issue at all. Finding one that 
works correctly with the software is another story. The newest Ati 
driver worked only once! After every session the workstation had to be 
rebooted to get it to work again.

I went over to Cento6 just a couple of weeks ago. Most workstations now 
work with the standard Nouveau driver. No problem seen yet. The only 
annoying problem is that sometimes an application windows stays "empty". 
Simply resizing the window fixes it. for me it's hard to say what 
causes. The software needs backing-store on the X server being enabled. 
I underdstand this is old technology and I suspect this is now causing 
problems. But the bottomline for us is that CentOS6 seems to be easier 
with the built-in drivers compared to CentOS5.
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Re: [CentOS] firefox 18

2013-01-10 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 01/10/2013 08:16 AM, John Doe wrote:
> From: Johnny Hughes 
>
>> You guys do know that we are fairly up2date with firefox/thunderbird on
>> their ESR program right?
>> The Firefox/Thunderbird we have is totally updated for security and gets
>> upstream support from Mozilla.  It does not have every feature, but it
>> has most and should stay on ESR.
> Yes; I mainly use the ESR version; but sometimes I wanna have fun and play a 
> bit with the new features...
> Weird numbering, especially since the 10.0.x branch seems to stop at 10.0.8 
> (and apparently related to 18.x)...
> Did they go further (past their 2 release overlap) so that we don't have to 
> switch to 17.0.x?

In ".0.x", the "x" part is variable based on the number of
security updates within the period.  Every time they release a security
update in the main firefox tree during the period, they issue a new ".x"
release in the ESR tree as well.

The length of "TIME" that the ESR tree exists is set, the "x" versions
are not.



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Re: [CentOS] Fencing a Dell T110 II

2013-01-10 Thread Steve Campbell

Sorry for not having the replies, but I'd already turned on Digest mode 
for the list.

To Joseph and John:

Concerning the odd choice for a server. I don't usually pick the servers 
here since we sort of have a guy that does all of the ordering for us. 
He typically does a good job. I do scan the requirements for the machine 
before it's ordered. The problem here is that because this was a Dell 
"PowerEdge" I didn't bother looking to see what all was provided in the 
BMC stuff, so I can't blame anyone but myself. In this instance, 
"PowerEdge" is a real misleading label. And as I said, only two PEs of 
all their servers don't have the DRAC stuff on them.

To Patrick:

I had tried setting up BMC for using IPMI. Using ipmitools, I could only 
get stats on the local machine. I couldn't get remote stats.

The setup for the BMC, using Ctrl-E during boot, always stated that 
there was "No Active Lan" availailbe for BMC, and I couldn't figure out 
where that was turned on.
I could set the address, indicate that the NIC was to be shared, all 
parameters were specified except being able to turn on a NIC for BMC. 
There's only one on-board NIC, so I wasn't picking the wrong one. After 
further reading about this particular model of PE, I began thinking that 
it just wasn't available remotely and only served to warn of failures by 
email.

If you can provide more on how you set this up, I'd like to compare my 
way against yours please, Patrick.

Anyway, thanks for the replies.

steve
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Re: [CentOS] Anybody running cadence on CentOS 6 ?

2013-01-10 Thread Roberto Nunnari
Theo Band wrote:
> On 01/10/2013 10:32 AM, Roberto Nunnari wrote:
 Yes we are.  On Quadro and enthusiast class equipment.  CentOS 5 works 
 fine, but we haven't done any sufficient CentOS 6 testing because other 
 software vendors in Engineering are still not certified for the platform.  
 What kind of problems are you having?  Perhaps some of our findings will 
 still apply.

>> YES! Thank you very much to all!
>> Following your advice, I just plugged in a dedicated video card, added
>> proprietary drivers, and now it works fine on CentOS 5!
>> This list is wonderful!!:-)
> We use Mentor (also an very expensive software toolset) and I have had a 
> lot of issues getting the drivers work correctly (Ati, Nvidia). The 
> price for the graphic adapter was not an issue at all. Finding one that 
> works correctly with the software is another story. The newest Ati 
> driver worked only once! After every session the workstation had to be 
> rebooted to get it to work again.
> 
> I went over to Cento6 just a couple of weeks ago. Most workstations now 
> work with the standard Nouveau driver. No problem seen yet. The only 
> annoying problem is that sometimes an application windows stays "empty". 
> Simply resizing the window fixes it. for me it's hard to say what 
> causes. The software needs backing-store on the X server being enabled. 
> I underdstand this is old technology and I suspect this is now causing 
> problems. But the bottomline for us is that CentOS6 seems to be easier 
> with the built-in drivers compared to CentOS5.

I see.. good to know that things work even better on the newer version 
of CentOS!

I gave the pc (CentOS 5 and with a temporary old ATI card) to the final 
user and now I'm waiting for his feedback..

Thank you.
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Re: [CentOS] gigantic memory leak in Clock Applet...

2013-01-10 Thread fred smith
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 08:10:43AM -0600, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:13 AM, Paul Bijnens
>  wrote:
> >
> > That would then verify the claim that the leak is not real (the above shows 
> > the contrary,
> > I think), and gnome programs interact with each other in much more deeper 
> > ways than
> > you would expect.
> 
> I sort-of remember once having evolution hooked to an exchange server
> and the clock applet seemed to be aware of all of my exchange calendar
> events but it was really too buggy to use back then.   Do you have any
> calendar settings that any gnome program knows about?

not sure what those settings might be, to which you refer. there aren't
very many settings available in the clock applet.

also, I don't use/like evolution.



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Re: [CentOS] gigantic memory leak in Clock Applet...

2013-01-10 Thread Paul Bijnens



On 2013-01-10 15:10, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:13 AM, Paul Bijnens
>   wrote:
>>
>> That would then verify the claim that the leak is not real (the above shows 
>> the contrary,
>> I think), and gnome programs interact with each other in much more deeper 
>> ways than
>> you would expect.
>
> I sort-of remember once having evolution hooked to an exchange server
> and the clock applet seemed to be aware of all of my exchange calendar
> events but it was really too buggy to use back then.   Do you have any
> calendar settings that any gnome program knows about?
>


I did not have items in some calendar. I do not run Evolution, it is not even
installed anymore. Maybe I had it installed at some time, but just "yum erase"-d
it at some point. I've never even started it once on this workstation.

I hate calendars (with deadlines and due dates just wooshing by).

I do have the Lightning plugin in Thunderbird, just to be able to read
nice formatted invites to meetings etc. And that thing marks items in my 
calendar.

And I do remember having difficulties to install a working version of
Lightning due to 32/64 bit problems at that time.

I think had to install a 32 bit version of TB on my 64bit workstation to be able
to use it then.
But when TB 10 replaced the TB 2 (or was that TB 3?), I just trow out all of it,
and installed the standard CentOS TB 10. Even the Lightning plugin works now 
too.

Maybe that was around the time when I noticed my memory problem with the 
clock-applet
disappeared?  I not sure anymore.

I just mention this because I noticed that Fred also was experimenting with
Firefox 18.  And until a real cause of the problem is found, everything is 
suspect.


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Re: [CentOS] gigantic memory leak in Clock Applet...

2013-01-10 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Paul Bijnens
 wrote:
>
> I do have the Lightning plugin in Thunderbird, just to be able to read
> nice formatted invites to meetings etc. And that thing marks items in my 
> calendar.

If you have notifications set, does the clock-applet pop them up?

> And I do remember having difficulties to install a working version of
> Lightning due to 32/64 bit problems at that time.
>
> I think had to install a 32 bit version of TB on my 64bit workstation to be 
> able
> to use it then.
> But when TB 10 replaced the TB 2 (or was that TB 3?), I just trow out all of 
> it,
> and installed the standard CentOS TB 10. Even the Lightning plugin works now 
> too.
>
> Maybe that was around the time when I noticed my memory problem with the 
> clock-applet
> disappeared?  I not sure anymore.
>
> I just mention this because I noticed that Fred also was experimenting with
> Firefox 18.  And until a real cause of the problem is found, everything is 
> suspect.

I don't know anything about the mechanisms involved, but the
clock-applet seemed to be aware of other stuff - and probably consumes
memory in the process.   The 6.x version also has a weather-checker in
there.

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Re: [CentOS] gigantic memory leak in Clock Applet...

2013-01-10 Thread Paul Bijnens


On 2013-01-10 19:13, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Paul Bijnens
>   wrote:
>>
>> I do have the Lightning plugin in Thunderbird, just to be able to read
>> nice formatted invites to meetings etc. And that thing marks items in my 
>> calendar.
>
> If you have notifications set, does the clock-applet pop them up?

No popops by the calendar (but I do not have the memory leak problem anymore 
either).
Maybe I did had some experiments in that time when testing Lightning then.


> I don't know anything about the mechanisms involved, but the
> clock-applet seemed to be aware of other stuff - and probably consumes
> memory in the process.   The 6.x version also has a weather-checker in
> there.
>

Wow, now, that you say it... Now I have a remote temperature sensor
in CentOS 6.  My smartphone has one too :-)



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Re: [CentOS] Spamassassin for Centos 6.3

2013-01-10 Thread Robert Moskowitz

On 01/04/2013 11:53 AM, Ned Slider wrote:
> On 04/01/13 15:59, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>> In http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Amavisd
>>
>> there is a recommendation to NOT use the version that comes with Centos
>> 6.3, but to get the more current version from RPMForge.
>>
>> Is this the 'correct' thing to do on a Centos-based mail server?
>>
>>
> There is no "correct" thing to do or not to do - it's simply a
> recommendation (BTW, I wrote the guide).


I am working some more off your guide.

What is clamav-devel need for?

In the userid check:

# cat /etc/passwd | grep "amavis\|clamav"

I get the clamav userid as clam, not clamav. Same way with the group 
being clam, not clamav and neither are added to the amavis group. So 
what to do? Am I doing something wrong or has clamav changed so that 
your howto needs updating?


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Re: [CentOS] Spamassassin for Centos 6.3

2013-01-10 Thread Robert Moskowitz

On 01/10/2013 03:10 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> On 01/04/2013 11:53 AM, Ned Slider wrote:
>> On 04/01/13 15:59, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>>> In http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Amavisd
>>>
>>> there is a recommendation to NOT use the version that comes with Centos
>>> 6.3, but to get the more current version from RPMForge.
>>>
>>> Is this the 'correct' thing to do on a Centos-based mail server?
>>>
>>>
>> There is no "correct" thing to do or not to do - it's simply a
>> recommendation (BTW, I wrote the guide).
>
> I am working some more off your guide.
>
> What is clamav-devel need for?
>
> In the userid check:
>
> # cat /etc/passwd | grep "amavis\|clamav"
>
> I get the clamav userid as clam, not clamav. Same way with the group
> being clam, not clamav and neither are added to the amavis group. So
> what to do? Am I doing something wrong or has clamav changed so that
> your howto needs updating?

The clamd and amavisd services are installed off, and have to be enabled 
with chkconfig ... on.

Oh, also, there is a clamd.amavisd service. Should that be set to on?


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[CentOS] Minimum requirements for CentOS 4,5,6

2013-01-10 Thread Andrew S Reis
Hey everyone,

 

I'm trying to compile a document to send out to our customers that outlines
the minimum and recommended requirements to run C4, C5, and C6.

 

Does anyone know the particulars? When we order systems, it's usually
Pentium Dual Core CPU, 120GB+ Hard drive, 2GB Ram.

 

I need the ABSOLUTE MINIMUM requirements to install and run any of the
aforementioned flavors as a "basic server".

 

Thanks,

 

Andrew Reis | MCTS, Network+

Microsoft Windows/Networking Support

Webmaster

DBMS Inc.

 

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Re: [CentOS] Minimum requirements for CentOS 4,5,6

2013-01-10 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 01/10/2013 03:24 PM, Andrew S Reis wrote:
> Hey everyone,
>
>  
>
> I'm trying to compile a document to send out to our customers that outlines
> the minimum and recommended requirements to run C4, C5, and C6.
>
>  
>
> Does anyone know the particulars? When we order systems, it's usually
> Pentium Dual Core CPU, 120GB+ Hard drive, 2GB Ram.
>
>  
>
> I need the ABSOLUTE MINIMUM requirements to install and run any of the
> aforementioned flavors as a "basic server".
>

http://wiki.centos.org/About/Product



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Re: [CentOS] Minimum requirements for CentOS 4,5,6

2013-01-10 Thread Eero Volotinen
2013/1/10 Andrew S Reis :
> Hey everyone,
>
>
>
> I'm trying to compile a document to send out to our customers that outlines
> the minimum and recommended requirements to run C4, C5, and C6.

http://www.slac.stanford.edu/comp/unix/linux/install_RHEL6.html#requirements


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Re: [CentOS] Minimum requirements for CentOS 4,5,6

2013-01-10 Thread James Hogarth
>
> I need the ABSOLUTE MINIMUM requirements to install and run any of the
> aforementioned flavors as a "basic server".
>

Define "basic server" ... This varies by person and task tho the point it's
meaningless without further clarification.

Although you can install on the bare minimum in the documentation it's
whether samba, NFS, LDAP, httpd, mysql, postgresql, etc are needed and the
acceptable performance that will ultimately define the hardware
requirements.
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Re: [CentOS] IE 9 not sending digest auth info

2013-01-10 Thread Paul Heinlein

The solution was unexpected. See below.

On Tue, 23 Aug 2011, Paul Heinlein wrote:

I migrated our internal wiki server last week, and some IE users 
aren't able to authenticate.


The service is hosted by Apache using Digest authentication. It 
migrated from Apache 2.2.9 (Debian 5) to Apache 2.2.15 (CentOS 6). 
The internal hostname for the wiki server is a DNS CNAME that was 
repointed from one host to another during the cutover.


In a normal session,

1. Client sends GET
2. Server sends 401 with WWW-Authenticate header
3. Client sends GET with Authorization header
4. Server sends 200 with Authentication-Info header and page content

When using IE 9 (and possibly 8, I'm still trying to track that down),

1. Client sends GET
2. Server sends 401 with WWW-Authenticate header
3. Client resends GET (*without* Authorization header)
4. Server sends 401 with WWW-Authenticate header
5. Etc.

IE seems to be ignoring 401 and/or the WWW-Authenticate headers. 
Using Chrome on Windows works fine; the issues are specific to IE.


Any ideas? My google-fu has failed me.


This vexed me for many months. Most of my colleagues didn't mind
running Chrome or Firefox, both of which worked fine, but those who
had IE set as their default browser had to copy/paste links in e-mail
messages rather than just click on them.

I was revisiting the problem again today as a result of working on a
Windows 8 system for the first time. (Yeccchhh.)

I followed an unpromising link from a Google query:

   http://serverfault.com/questions/389514/apache-without-any-error-page

One responder mentioned that IE sometimes "knows better than the
server" when it comes to error pages. Hmm. Since Apache was providing
a 401 Authorization Required response, I somewhat desperately
commented out the ErrorDocument 401 directive in httpd.conf.

And that did the trick, though not for the reasons mentioned by the
poster in the link above.

I'll note that our server was setup such that authentication was
required for the entire virtual host (including, of course, the
/error/ tree). The Apache HTML response seemed to indicate dueling 401
errors. Here's the curl output, reformatted for readability:

   
   
 
   401 Authorization Required
 
 
   Authorization Required
   
 This server could not verify that you
 are authorized to access the document
 requested.  Either you supplied the wrong
 credentials (e.g., bad password), or your
 browser doesn't understand how to supply
 the credentials required.
   
   
 Additionally, a 401 Authorization Required
 error was encountered while trying to use
 an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
   
   
   Apache/2.2.15 (CentOS) Server ...
 
   

And here's the corresponding WWW-Authenticate header, edited:

WWW-Authenticate:
   Digest realm="OUR REALM", nonce="qh...21",
   algorithm=MD5, domain="/", qop="auth",
   Digest realm="OUR REALM", nonce="qh...21",
   algorithm=MD5, domain="/", qop="auth"

Apache was sending the header with two copies of the key-value pairs, 
indicated by the "Additionally, a 401 ..." paragraph in the error 
reply. IE was the only browser that responded badly, so it was easy to 
look askance at Microsoft, but the problem is certainly more subtle 
than I originally imagined.


Once I commented out the ErrorDocument 401 directive, the second 
paragraph no longer showed up in curl output and the WWW-Authenicate 
header contained just one set of key-value pairs -- and IE worked 
fine.



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[CentOS] Andreas Reschke is out of the office

2013-01-10 Thread Andreas Reschke

Ich werde ab  11.01.2013 nicht im Büro sein. Ich kehre zurück am
21.01.2013.


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[CentOS] You need to implement a remote task_setrlimit in your security module and call it directly from this functionWARNING: at security/security.c:51 security_ops_task_setrlimit() ?

2013-01-10 Thread Eero Volotinen
Any idea what causes this on boot?

You need to implement a remote task_setrlimit in your security module
and call it directly from this functionWARNING: at
security/security.c:51 security_ops_task_setrlimit()

Call Trace:
 [] security_ops_task_setrlimit+0x87/0x96
 [] do_prlimit+0xd7/0x1d2
 [] sys_setrlimit+0x36/0x43
 [] tracesys+0xd5/0xdf

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Re: [CentOS] GnuTLS v3.1.6 on CentOS 6.3

2013-01-10 Thread Bry8 Star
(pls see message in between previous, below)

From Ibrahim Yurtseven, received on 2013-01-10 9:39 AM:
> On 10.01.2013 10:41, Bry8 Star wrote:
>> Hi,
> Hi
> 
Thanks.
> 
>> on CentOS 6.3 (32-bit) current & default GnuTLS is version 
>> 2.8.5-4.el6_2.2 gnutls.i686
> This is correct!
> 
>> ( where can i get a src rpm for at-least trying it from a 
>> 2nd/different directory ? )
> yumdownloader --source gnutls will download the src.rpm in the
> current directory
> 
Will it download v3.1.6 or last stable or existing 2.8.5 ? and if i
were to do this way, then i should do it from a non-root account,
right ? or, doing from root is also ok ?
> 
>> Can someone kindly point to an article that will help to
>> effectively upgrade to GnuTLS v3.1.1 or later+stable version,
>> on CentOS 6.3 (32-bit) ?
> download a newer version from fedora and rebuild (maybe with new
>  dependencies) it on your system and install it.
> 
if i were to follow this way, then fedora 18 would be right choice
(if i find the v3.1.6 in their repo) ? since i would want to replace
existing default gnutls 2.8.5, should i do these
build/compile/install processes under "root" ?

Thanks again,
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