Re: [CentOS] Oracle tries to capture CentOS users
> RedHat and Oracle both provide value-add services. THAT is what you pay for. > But that flies in the face-value (rather than the hidden agenda) of their statements... Oracle wouldn't *lie* to you would they?! /s If someone wanted the 'value-added services of Oracle' they wouldn't be using CentOS but rather paying customers already and if they needed those services this 'free service to the community' Oracle is offering would not be of help... since they'd need to pay anyway and thus it would not be free... ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Oracle tries to capture CentOS users
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 09:39:16AM +0100, James Hogarth wrote: > If someone wanted the 'value-added services of Oracle' they wouldn't > be using CentOS but rather paying customers already and if they > needed those services this 'free service to the community' Oracle is > offering would not be of help... since they'd need to pay anyway and > thus it would not be free... If you look it from Oracle's perspective, this _should_ be a win-win. They already need to manage a Linux distro for their vertical solutions such as Exabyte. It makes sense for them to base it off of RedHat 'cos their database product is already available for that platform. So, for them, making the OS freely available is a close-to-zero marginal cost. And, hey, they might pick up a few support contracts on the way. A _user_, however, is in a different boat. Unless Oracle build a community support system (like these lists), users of OL are gonna be stuck. They're gonna have to beg for support from other areas. You can be sure that some of them will try to get support from us, here. I just don't see the value proposition of OL from a user perspective. -- rgds Stephen ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Forum CentOS Indonesia
Dear All, Forum discuss (Indonesia) about CentOS have done, so if you can join this forum you can register on this site http://forum.centos-id.org/ comments and suggestions will be very helpful for the progress this forum :) Thank you very much -- http://mafatahna.web.id ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 89, Issue 12
Send CentOS-announce mailing list submissions to
centos-annou...@centos.org
To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce
or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
centos-announce-requ...@centos.org
You can reach the person managing the list at
centos-announce-ow...@centos.org
When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
than "Re: Contents of CentOS-announce digest..."
Today's Topics:
1. CEBA-2012: CentOS 6 device-mapper-multipath Update
(Johnny Hughes)
2. CEBA-2012:1113 CentOS 5 mod_python FASTTRACK Update
(Johnny Hughes)
--
Message: 1
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 11:53:41 +
From: Johnny Hughes
Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2012: CentOS 6
device-mapper-multipath Update
To: centos-annou...@centos.org
Message-ID: <20120724115341.ga8...@chakra.karan.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2012:
Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2012-.html
The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently
syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename )
i386:
cb59d813cac7ee53e61f7effe39be56884b06a98384c1dc0c93a906a4bbce7c0
device-mapper-multipath-0.4.9-56.el6_3.1.i686.rpm
92035ee065a51252e0d005e8fed7ea7e9e8f6d112b3452b832f2d2ebee0c4587
device-mapper-multipath-libs-0.4.9-56.el6_3.1.i686.rpm
0fe33496c4364fb2f36f5283b2c627c17e102ee3b441c3983f7dc9e891964129
kpartx-0.4.9-56.el6_3.1.i686.rpm
x86_64:
36341c95d2cbdbc299e0ed9d3aa210a296bf940003f389f0b3dd1a9bbf28f2d2
device-mapper-multipath-0.4.9-56.el6_3.1.x86_64.rpm
78580cfc07e0676bb665ad1b78e4c5f185cc9f391736299aa6a94fe5d05133c0
device-mapper-multipath-libs-0.4.9-56.el6_3.1.x86_64.rpm
8cda843590030c2be0f24b4c278a7ddca877b991203a6a65455d585c352272e2
kpartx-0.4.9-56.el6_3.1.x86_64.rpm
Source:
f64781657eb1586052e18e6673f8e7605366ac733dba57fa359ac4ce561fd9dd
device-mapper-multipath-0.4.9-56.el6_3.1.src.rpm
--
Johnny Hughes
CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ }
irc: hughesjr, #cen...@irc.freenode.net
--
Message: 2
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:27:56 +
From: Johnny Hughes
Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2012:1113 CentOS 5 mod_python
FASTTRACK Update
To: centos-annou...@centos.org
Message-ID: <20120724142756.ga16...@chakra.karan.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2012:1113
Upstream details at : http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2012-1113.html
The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently
syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename )
i386:
6e7f7df0533db6c652ec0020205dfa6c3a1bf3c0ce706a0e8f8643f5f17e1644
mod_python-3.2.8-4.el5.i386.rpm
x86_64:
6041563c9442227bc74b610eb419993a51b840535c77c72ad397de826e0cf380
mod_python-3.2.8-4.el5.x86_64.rpm
Source:
ded9353c9022a4f2c886bd2548e6a2b0db9b7ecb3597658c6c418b4b29aa66d5
mod_python-3.2.8-4.el5.src.rpm
--
Johnny Hughes
CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ }
irc: hughesjr, #cen...@irc.freenode.net
--
___
CentOS-announce mailing list
centos-annou...@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce
End of CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 89, Issue 12
***
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Oracle tries to capture CentOS users
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:04 AM, Stephen Harris wrote: > I just don't see the value proposition of OL from a user perspective. I'd only consider OL if I was running Oracle software on top of it. "One throat to choke", as Scott McNealy used to say. -- Gé ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] su path hard coded?
Stephen Harris writes: > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 02:33:17PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Stephen Harris wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 02:14:45PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: > > >> Can't you use the usual approach of 'su -' to pick up the target > > >> user's login environment? > > > > > > It's "su -" that causes the 'su' comman to rewrite the PATH to the > > > hardcoded default. > > > > > > > But it should be executing the target user's .profile which can > > override it. '-' should be a synonym for -l or --login. > > You've missed the point. I want the ability to set the default path on > 'su -' to be /bin:/usr/bin and then let the users override if they wish. > I do not want the default path to be /usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin > Silly question but what are you actually trying to accomplish? Restricting the path doesn't restrict what people can run. Not having having /usr/local/bin in the path doesn't stop someone from giving the full path to the program or cd-ing to /usr/local/bin and running something there with ./progName. Once a user has become root, they own the system. You really can't restrict them at that point. If you don't want them doing some things, perhaps su isn't the best solution. Cheers, Dave ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Oracle tries to capture CentOS users
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Gé Weijers wrote: > "One throat to choke", as Scott McNealy used to say. Hehe, never heard that one. Cool guy Scott... too bad Sun had to go up for sale. I have my own version "a single person (or firm) to yell at" FC ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] missing V4L or related dependencies
Hello again, Looks like the functions I need - at least some of them - are defined in videobuf-vmalloc.h I still have no idea where to find them - i.e., what to include/install to make them resolve. Boris. On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Boris Epstein wrote: > Hello all, > > I am trying to install Epiphan's ( http://www.epiphan.com/ ) VGA2USB > device on a Centos 6 machine and when I am trying to compile and install > the driver for it I get the following errors: > > WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.32-279.2.1.el6.x86_64/extra/vga2usb.ko needs > unknown symbol videobuf_streamoff > WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.32-279.2.1.el6.x86_64/extra/vga2usb.ko needs > unknown symbol videobuf_poll_stream > WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.32-279.2.1.el6.x86_64/extra/vga2usb.ko needs > unknown symbol video_ioctl2 > WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.32-279.2.1.el6.x86_64/extra/vga2usb.ko needs > unknown symbol videobuf_reqbufs > WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.32-279.2.1.el6.x86_64/extra/vga2usb.ko needs > unknown symbol videobuf_dqbuf > WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.32-279.2.1.el6.x86_64/extra/vga2usb.ko needs > unknown symbol videobuf_to_vmalloc > WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.32-279.2.1.el6.x86_64/extra/vga2usb.ko needs > unknown symbol videobuf_vmalloc_free > WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.32-279.2.1.el6.x86_64/extra/vga2usb.ko needs > unknown symbol video_devdata > WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.32-279.2.1.el6.x86_64/extra/vga2usb.ko needs > unknown symbol videobuf_stop > WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.32-279.2.1.el6.x86_64/extra/vga2usb.ko needs > unknown symbol videobuf_read_stream > WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.32-279.2.1.el6.x86_64/extra/vga2usb.ko needs > unknown symbol videobuf_querybuf > WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.32-279.2.1.el6.x86_64/extra/vga2usb.ko needs > unknown symbol video_unregister_device > WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.32-279.2.1.el6.x86_64/extra/vga2usb.ko needs > unknown symbol videobuf_qbuf > WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.32-279.2.1.el6.x86_64/extra/vga2usb.ko needs > unknown symbol video_register_device > WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.32-279.2.1.el6.x86_64/extra/vga2usb.ko needs > unknown symbol videobuf_iolock > WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.32-279.2.1.el6.x86_64/extra/vga2usb.ko needs > unknown symbol videobuf_streamon > WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.32-279.2.1.el6.x86_64/extra/vga2usb.ko needs > unknown symbol videobuf_queue_vmalloc_init > WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.32-279.2.1.el6.x86_64/extra/vga2usb.ko needs > unknown symbol videobuf_mmap_mapper > WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.32-279.2.1.el6.x86_64/extra/vga2usb.ko needs > unknown symbol videobuf_mmap_free > > Does anybody happen to know which library I need to install to get these > functions? > > Thanks. > > Boris. > ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] su path hard coded?
David G. Miller wrote: > Stephen Harris writes: >> On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 02:33:17PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: >> > On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Stephen Harris wrote: >> > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 02:14:45PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: >> > >> Can't you use the usual approach of 'su -' to pick up the target >> > >> user's login environment? >> > > >> > > It's "su -" that causes the 'su' comman to rewrite the PATH to the >> > > hardcoded default. >> > > >> > But it should be executing the target user's .profile which can >> > override it. '-' should be a synonym for -l or --login. >> >> You've missed the point. I want the ability to set the default path on >> 'su -' to be /bin:/usr/bin and then let the users override if they wish. >> I do not want the default path to be /usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin > > Silly question but what are you actually trying to accomplish? > Restricting the path doesn't restrict what people can run. Not having having > /usr/local/bin in the path doesn't stop someone from giving the full > path to the program or cd-ing to /usr/local/bin and running something > there with ./progName. > > Once a user has become root, they own the system. You really can't > restrict > them at that point. If you don't want them doing some things, perhaps su isn't the best solution. Good point, Dave. Stephen - are you sure you don't want to give them sudo, with limits as to what commands they can run? mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Oracle tries to capture CentOS users
Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Gé Weijers wrote: >> "One throat to choke", as Scott McNealy used to say. > > Hehe, never heard that one. Cool guy Scott... too bad Sun had to go up for > sale. > I have my own version "a single person (or firm) to yell at" I agree. It was a real shame when Sun went on the block. But then, back in the nineties, I loved Sun 3 and Solaris. Most of this decade, though, Linux has become even friendlier and more useful to me. But then, I thought it was a real cryin' shame when DEC went down, and got eaten by Compaq (gag!). I remember DEC and the seven dwarfs, I think it was. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] missing V4L or related dependencies
Boris Epstein wrote: > Hello again, > > Looks like the functions I need - at least some of them - are defined in > > videobuf-vmalloc.h > > I still have no idea where to find them - i.e., what to include/install to > make them resolve. Ah, a locate found it. It's in kernel-devel. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Oracle tries to capture CentOS users
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:38 PM, wrote: > I agree. It was a real shame when Sun went on the block. But then, back in > the nineties, I loved Sun 3 and Solaris. Most of this decade, though, > Linux has become even friendlier and more useful to me. Sun JDS Linux was damn good (included Java and StarOffice preloaded, and a cool Gnome theme). I used (purchased!) both JDS Linux 2003 and JDS Linux R2. JDS Linux R3 was in beta by the time the Solaris militia won the internal battle / turf war and JDS Linux was canceled. FC ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] missing V4L or related dependencies
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 2:41 PM, wrote: > Boris Epstein wrote: > > Hello again, > > > > Looks like the functions I need - at least some of them - are defined in > > > > videobuf-vmalloc.h > > > > I still have no idea where to find them - i.e., what to include/install > to > > make them resolve. > > Ah, a locate found it. It's in kernel-devel. > > mark > > > OK... thanks Mark! Then how come I fail to link to it? Boris. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] missing V4L or related dependencies
Boris Epstein wrote: > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 2:41 PM, wrote: >> Boris Epstein wrote: >> > Hello again, >> > >> > Looks like the functions I need - at least some of them - are defined >> > in videobuf-vmalloc.h >> > >> > I still have no idea where to find them - i.e., what to >> > include/install to make them resolve. >> >> Ah, a locate found it. It's in kernel-devel. >> > OK... thanks Mark! > > Then how come I fail to link to it? Wait - this is in something already compiled, or are you building it? If the former, then for some reason, it may not be in your link path, or you might need to add it to LD_LIBRARY_PATH. If the former, I dunno why it wouldn't have the path right. You're not building a 32-bit on a 64 bit, or vice versa, are you? mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] su path hard coded?
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:36 PM, wrote: > >> >> Once a user has become root, they own the system. You really can't >> restrict > them at that point. If you don't want them doing some > things, perhaps su isn't the best solution. > > Good point, Dave. Stephen - are you sure you don't want to give them sudo, > with limits as to what commands they can run? Or if the real issue is shared use of a machine with some conflicts of interest, giving different users or groups their own VM's might be a better solution than trying to play referee. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Oracle tries to capture CentOS users
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > Sun JDS Linux was damn good (included Java and StarOffice preloaded, > and a cool Gnome theme). > > I used (purchased!) both JDS Linux 2003 and JDS Linux R2. > JDS Linux R3 was in beta by the time the Solaris militia won the > internal battle / turf war and JDS Linux was canceled. A lack of paying customers had something to do with that too :-( I remember debugging bootstrap loader issues on JDS. Disclosure: I worked for Sun from 2000-2005, mostly on Linux-related stuff, e.g. http://sosc-dr.sun.com/blueprints/1103/817-4403.pdf It was a great company to work for while it lasted. -- Gé ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] missing V4L or related dependencies
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 2:48 PM, wrote: > Boris Epstein wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 2:41 PM, wrote: > >> Boris Epstein wrote: > >> > Hello again, > >> > > >> > Looks like the functions I need - at least some of them - are defined > >> > in videobuf-vmalloc.h > >> > > >> > I still have no idea where to find them - i.e., what to > >> > include/install to make them resolve. > >> > >> Ah, a locate found it. It's in kernel-devel. > >> > > OK... thanks Mark! > > > > Then how come I fail to link to it? > > Wait - this is in something already compiled, or are you building it? If > the former, then for some reason, it may not be in your link path, or you > might need to add it to LD_LIBRARY_PATH. If the former, I dunno why it > wouldn't have the path right. You're not building a 32-bit on a 64 bit, or > vice versa, are you? > >mark > > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > Mark, I was trying to compile the software on a 64-bit machine. kernel-devel was installed. After I ran a yum update and rebooted the system the compilation worked like a charm. This must have been some ldconfig issue or some such. Thanks for your help. Boris. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Oracle tries to capture CentOS users
Gé Weijers wrote: > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Fernando Cassia > wrote: >> Sun JDS Linux was damn good (included Java and StarOffice preloaded, >> and a cool Gnome theme). >> >> I used (purchased!) both JDS Linux 2003 and JDS Linux R2. >> JDS Linux R3 was in beta by the time the Solaris militia won the >> internal battle / turf war and JDS Linux was canceled. > > A lack of paying customers had something to do with that too :-( > I remember debugging bootstrap loader issues on JDS. > > Disclosure: I worked for Sun from 2000-2005, mostly on Linux-related > stuff, e.g. http://sosc-dr.sun.com/blueprints/1103/817-4403.pdf > It was a great company to work for while it lasted. The first time I was doing sysadmin work was on a sparcserver, back in '95-'97, and I really, really liked that box. I agree, it was a real shame. Btw, back when I was working on it, we ran into an error message that *no* one has ever heard of before: we had a ton of young consultants, coding, testing and debugging 12-16 hrs/day, and if a debug session hung, they just killed the window. (They were on PCs running...mmm, I can't remember if we were on Win 3 or NT, but we were using Hummingbird.) Late one night, with a ton of zombies, another guy and I spent nearly an hour killing zombies (which we could actually do), because in their debugging sessions, they saw an error message that read "spider message" (and I forget the rest of it). Ever heard of anything like it? mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] missing V4L or related dependencies
Boris Epstein wrote: > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 2:48 PM, wrote: >> Boris Epstein wrote: >> > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 2:41 PM, wrote: >> >> Boris Epstein wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Looks like the functions I need - at least some of them - are >> >> > defined in videobuf-vmalloc.h >> >> > >> >> > I still have no idea where to find them - i.e., what to >> >> > include/install to make them resolve. >> >> >> >> Ah, a locate found it. It's in kernel-devel. >> >> >> > OK... thanks Mark! >> > >> > Then how come I fail to link to it? >> >> Wait - this is in something already compiled, or are you building it? If >> the former, then for some reason, it may not be in your link path, or >> you might need to add it to LD_LIBRARY_PATH. If the former, I dunno why it >> wouldn't have the path right. You're not building a 32-bit on a 64 bit, >> or vice versa, are you? > > I was trying to compile the software on a 64-bit machine. kernel-devel was > installed. After I ran a > > yum update > > and rebooted the system the compilation worked like a charm. > > This must have been some ldconfig issue or some such. Sounds like it, though reference to a .h means the include path in the makefile wasn't set correctly, or rather was missing the correct setting. Perhaps something in the environment, or your environment (did you ever log out and log back in, before rebooting?) wasn't right. > > Thanks for your help. Glad it works! mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Forum CentOS Indonesia
Hi, On 07/24/2012 03:14 PM, Muhammad A. Fatahna wrote: > Forum discuss (Indonesia) about CentOS have done, so if you can join > this forum you can register on this site http://forum.centos-id.org/ > comments and suggestions will be very helpful for the progress this > forum :) We are actually working towards getting an official Indonesian forum up at id.centos.org ( like the french one at fr.centos.org ) - it might be worth talking and making sure we are not just duplicating efforts. thanks -- Karanbir Singh +44-207-0999389 | http://www.karan.org/ | twitter.com/kbsingh ICQ: 2522219| Yahoo IM: z00dax | Gtalk: z00dax GnuPG Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Oracle tries to capture CentOS users
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 2:52 PM, wrote: >> > The first time I was doing sysadmin work was on a sparcserver, back in > '95-'97, and I really, really liked that box. I agree, it was a real > shame. Yeah, but fast forward another year or two and you had an extremely buggy OS (not a problem by itself, everything was back then) and it was cheaper to go buy a faster PC and run linux than it would have been to get the bugfixes for the OS. What did they expect to happen? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Oracle tries to capture CentOS users
Les Mikesell wrote: > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 2:52 PM, wrote: >>> >> The first time I was doing sysadmin work was on a sparcserver, back in >> '95-'97, and I really, really liked that box. I agree, it was a real >> shame. > > Yeah, but fast forward another year or two and you had an extremely > buggy OS (not a problem by itself, everything was back then) and it > was cheaper to go buy a faster PC and run linux than it would have > been to get the bugfixes for the OS. What did they expect to happen? > Not in the mid/late nineties. Sun 3 was nice and solid (I used it, along with Irix mostly, through the early/mid-nineties). Solaris 6.3 == Sun 3; Solaris 6.4 was the next release, and was perfectly fine and solid. By the late nineties, RH 5.2 was nice and solid, and I was running that at home. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Oracle tries to capture CentOS users
On 07/24/12 1:08 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > Yeah, but fast forward another year or two and you had an extremely > buggy OS I've managed development servers running pretty much all of the Solaris releases from 2.6 (SunOS 5.6) to Solaris 10 (SunOS 5.10), and if there were bugs, they sure didn't affect our operations. We were primarily using Solaris as a Oracle database and Java application host. -- john r pierceN 37, W 122 santa cruz ca mid-left coast ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Forum CentOS Indonesia
> We are actually working towards getting an official Indonesian forum up > at id.centos.org ( like the french one at fr.centos.org ) - it might be > worth talking and making sure we are not just duplicating efforts. > > thanks owh, how to procedure to get a the domain id.centos.org sir, because this site just use discuss and tranfer knowledge not for commercial -- http://mafatahna.web.id ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Oracle tries to capture CentOS users
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:45 PM, wrote: > >>> >>> The first time I was doing sysadmin work was on a sparcserver, back in >>> '95-'97, and I really, really liked that box. I agree, it was a real >>> shame. >> >> Yeah, but fast forward another year or two and you had an extremely >> buggy OS (not a problem by itself, everything was back then) and it >> was cheaper to go buy a faster PC and run linux than it would have >> been to get the bugfixes for the OS. What did they expect to happen? >> > Not in the mid/late nineties. Sun 3 was nice and solid (I used it, along > with Irix mostly, through the early/mid-nineties). Solaris 6.3 == Sun 3; > Solaris 6.4 was the next release, and was perfectly fine and solid. I was stuck with some version of Solaris 5, expired support and no free bug fixes. > By the late nineties, RH 5.2 was nice and solid, and I was running that at > home. At some point, our mailserver broke and I copied the sendmail configs over to a linux box, restored some backups to it and never looked back.Wasn't really happy with RH until 7.3, but that was rock solid. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Oracle tries to capture CentOS users
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:03 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 07/24/12 1:08 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: >> Yeah, but fast forward another year or two and you had an extremely >> buggy OS > > I've managed development servers running pretty much all of the Solaris > releases from 2.6 (SunOS 5.6) to Solaris 10 (SunOS 5.10), and if there > were bugs, they sure didn't affect our operations. Anything closely related to SysVr4 had to be buggy in the early days. It was a fantastic design but sort of thrown together. You probably stayed up to date with bugs fixed as they were found, but what did it cost you to go past Solaris 5.x? > We were primarily > using Solaris as a Oracle database and Java application host. Linux wasn't all that great at Java then - you made the right choice. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Oracle tries to capture CentOS users
On 07/24/12 2:25 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: >> We were primarily >> >using Solaris as a Oracle database and Java application host. > Linux wasn't all that great at Java then - you made the right choice. early Linux was absolutely wretched at storage management if you had more than a couple direct attached disks. fiberchannel multipathing? hah. ext2fs fsck on reboot after a crash when you have dozens of SAN volumes totaling a few terabytes ? meh. -- john r pierceN 37, W 122 santa cruz ca mid-left coast ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] EXT3-fs (dm-1): error: can't find ext3 filesystem on dev dm-1
Hello there, I'm a new to linux need help in regards to issues during mounting of a new created logical unit which I am unable to mount the volume due to error as found below: ~]# mount -l -t ext3 /dev/mapper/vgNebula-lvg1 /mnt/iscsi0 mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/vgNebula-lvg1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so [root@HE ~]# mount -t ext3 /dev/mapper/vgNebula-lvg1 /mnt/iscsi0 mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/vgNebula-lvg1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so [root@HE ~]# tail /var/log/messages Jul 24 16:31:37 HE kernel: EXT3-fs (dm-1): error: can't find ext3 filesystem on dev dm-1. Jul 24 16:31:43 HE kernel: EXT3-fs (dm-1): error: can't find ext3 filesystem on dev dm-1. Any help is very much appreciated. Thank you. lawrence ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] su path hard coded?
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 04:46:24PM +, David G. Miller wrote: > Stephen Harris writes: > > You've missed the point. I want the ability to set the default path on > > 'su -' to be /bin:/usr/bin and then let the users override if they wish. > > I do not want the default path to be /usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin > > Silly question but what are you actually trying to accomplish? Restricting > the I want the ability to "set the default path". That's all. Just so that when I do "su - foobar" then the path defaults to /bin:/usr/bin. If foobar wants to add /usr/local/bin then foobar decides. If I decide I want the default path to be /myspecial/bin:/bin:/usr/bin (so that all my users get this, by default) then I can. Just "set the default path". Nothing more, nothing less. -- rgds Stephen ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] su path hard coded?
On 07/24/12 4:33 PM, Stephen Harris wrote: > I want the ability to "set the default path". That's all. Just so that > when I do "su - foobar" then the path defaults to /bin:/usr/bin. If foobar > wants to add /usr/local/bin then foobar decides. If I decide I want the > default path to be /myspecial/bin:/bin:/usr/bin (so that all my users get > this, by default) then I can. > > Just "set the default path". Nothing more, nothing less. set it in /etc/profile then. that gets run on su -l $someuser -- john r pierceN 37, W 122 santa cruz ca mid-left coast ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Oracle tries to capture CentOS users
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 04:45:47PM -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > with Irix mostly, through the early/mid-nineties). Solaris 6.3 == Sun 3; > Solaris 6.4 was the next release, and was perfectly fine and solid. There was no Solaris 6.3 or 6.4. "Sun 3" was a hardware platform (pre Sparc)! The SysV variants went Solaris 2, 2.1, 2.2, 2.3, 2.4, 2.5, 2.5.1, 2.6, 7, 8, 9, 10,... splat FWIW, the "Solaris" name started as a marketing thing as being the OS plus window manager, or "Operating Environment". SunOS 4 finally got rebranded as Solaris 1.x; I still have "Solaris 1.1.1" which (from the box) "contains both SunOS 4.1.3_U1 and OpenWindows Version 3_U1". Solaris 2 was the SysV variant and has SunOS 5.x OS plus so, for example, Solaris 2.4 had a 5.4 OS and kernel, plus other stuff (eg openwindows, deskset etc etc). You can still see it in "uname" output, today. Solaris 2.4 was mostly stable (I hit a few mbuf issues on Netra 5's). Solaris 2.5.1 ran pretty well (I used it on Ultra 1 and Ultra 1+ machines, then Ultra 2's). Solaris 2.6 worked well. Solaris 7 was a disaster. Solaris 8 was very stable. Solaris 9 I kinda skipped. Solaris 10 was too little, too late. (In my basement I have Solaris 1.1.1, 2.4, 2.5, 2.5.1, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10; all but 2.5.1 are original in-box distributions) -- rgds Stephen ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] su path hard coded?
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 04:43:54PM -0700, John R Pierce wrote: > On 07/24/12 4:33 PM, Stephen Harris wrote: > > I want the ability to "set the default path". That's all. Just so that > set it in /etc/profile then. that gets run on su -l $someuser Who says all my users run "/bin/sh" or "/bin/bash" as their shell? Do I need to need to handle /etc/csh.login? And what about non-standard shells? /etc/profile is a kludge; it's not a solution. A kludge may be all I can do. But... *sigh* -- rgds Stephen ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] su path hard coded?
On 07/24/2012 04:33 PM, Stephen Harris wrote: > I want the ability to "set the default path". That's all. Just so that > when I do "su - foobar" then the path defaults to /bin:/usr/bin. If foobar > wants to add /usr/local/bin then foobar decides. If I decide I want the > default path to be /myspecial/bin:/bin:/usr/bin (so that all my users get > this, by default) then I can. > > Just "set the default path". Nothing more, nothing less. > That isn't your problem. It's the solution you've come up with for your problem. What is the *problem* that removing /usr/local/bin from the default path is supposed to fix? What actual impact does it have on you if you *don't* change it? If it is just a matter of "you don't like it", perhaps you should leave it alone. Changing configurations from the defaults in a way that requires additional work to maintain on the long term for no clear payoff is just wasting time and asking for mysterious breakages in the future when people who expect the system to work the way the vendor normally configures it run into your customizations without warning. But if it is actually causing a *problem*, present the problem itself. There may be other ways to address it you haven't thought of but others here may have used or can propose. -- Benjamin Franz ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Bind isn't working. after upgrade.
Hello Mates, I just reciently updated BIND on my CentOS 6.2 (don't remember which version) but now I am using version: BIND version 9.8.2 The packages I have: bind bind-libs bind-chroot bind-utils bind-devel First of all, doing "service named status" it throws me: WARNING: key file (/etc/rndc.key) exists, but using default configuration file (/etc/rndc.conf) rndc: connection to remote host closed This may indicate that * the remote server is using an older version of the command protocol, * this host is not authorized to connect, * the clocks are not synchronized, or * the key is invalid. After a Google search I found: to remove rdnc.key and it was suppose to be working ok. and I chown named:named the file /etc/named.conf, now if I do "service named status" it throws me: version: 9.8.2rc1-RedHat-9.8.2-0.10.rc1.el6_3.1 CPUs found: 4 worker threads: 4 number of zones: 17 debug level: 0 xfers running: 0 xfers deferred: 0 soa queries in progress: 0 query logging is OFF recursive clients: 0/0/1000 tcp clients: 0/100 server is up and running named (pid 1456) is running... The thing is, whenever I want to check the domain name on intoDNS.com service it says: ERROR: One or more of your nameservers did not respond: The ones that did not respond are: and it show boths are bad, I thought may be a delay on propagate, but now I have 2 hours waiting and still nothing. Any help? Here is the /var/log/messages Jul 25 00:17:57domain named[1456]: automatic empty zone: B.E.F.IP6.ARPA Jul 25 00:17:57 domain named[1456]: automatic empty zone: 8.B.D.0.1.0.0.2.IP6.ARPA Jul 25 00:17:57 domain named[1456]: command channel listening on 127.0.0.1#953 Jul 25 00:17:57 domain named[1456]: command channel listening on ::1#953 Jul 25 00:17:57 domain named[1456]: zone domain.info/IN: loaded serial 1343174545 Jul 25 00:17:57domain named[1456]: managed-keys-zone ./IN: loaded serial 3 Jul 25 00:17:57 domain named[1456]: running Jul 25 00:17:57 domain named[1456]: zone domain/IN: sending notifies (serial 1343174545) Jul 25 00:17:57domain xinetd[1494]: xinetd Version 2.3.14 started with libwrap loadavg labeled-networking options compiled in. Jul 25 00:17:57 domainxinetd[1494]: Started working: 0 available services P.S. I've tried removing the packages , reinstalling, stop using chroot, etc. -- Carlos Sura.- www.carlossura.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Bind isn't working. after upgrade.
On 7/24/2012 8:47 PM, Carlos Sura wrote: > Hello Mates, > > I just reciently updated BIND on my CentOS 6.2 (don't remember which > version) but now I am using version: BIND version 9.8.2 Hello Carlos, When named is running: - Is port 53 listening? - Can you telnet into that port from another server? - Can you lookup (dig) your own domain or a remote domain from the server? - Were either xinetd or iptables updated or changed? W. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Bind isn't working. after upgrade.
> > > Hello Carlos, > > When named is running: > > - Is port 53 listening? > - Can you telnet into that port from another server? > - Can you lookup (dig) your own domain or a remote domain from the server? > - Were either xinetd or iptables updated or changed? > > > W. > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > Hi Winter, I really appreciate your answer. Yes, port 53 is listening on configuration and with netstat -atpn | grep -E ":953|:53" it shows named. Yes I can telnet from another server the port 53 Well, this is what I get from dig ; <<>> DiG 9.8.2rc1-RedHat-9.8.2-0.10.rc1.el6_3.1 <<>> -x domain.com ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 32863 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;icom.domain.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: in-addr.arpa. 1800 IN SOA b.in-addr-servers.arpa. nstld.iana.org. 2011026079 1800 900 604800 3600 ;; Query time: 51 msec ;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8) ;; WHEN: Wed Jul 25 02:28:44 2012 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 121 Iptables is deactivated and I have made: chkconfig iptables off and restarted to see if it works, and produces the same. -- Carlos Sura.- www.carlossura.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Oracle tries to capture CentOS users
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Stephen Harris wrote: > (In my basement I have Solaris 1.1.1, 2.4, 2.5, 2.5.1, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10; all > but 2.5.1 are original in-box distributions) You're the right man, then, whom I should ask about the elusive Sun Bandwidth Manager (bwmgr) that someone at Sun Micro once mailed to me on a shiny CD and that I manged to lose while moving. I wonder if someone might have a spare CD that could show up on eBay someday... ;) Apparently nobody at ORCL knows about the elusive stand-alone product after bandwidth management was integrated into later Solaris OS versions by Sun... FC ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Oracle tries to capture CentOS users
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 7:02 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > ext2fs fsck on reboot after a crash when you have dozens of SAN > volumes totaling a few terabytes ? meh. You mention ext2fs and I get cold sweath down my spine... I lost an awful lot of data due to ext2 fsck... FC ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Bind isn't working. after upgrade.
Ok, Here is the update: I deleted the line: ROOTDIR="/var/named/chroot" on /etc/sysconfig/named restarted named and now, it shows me: WARNING: key file (/etc/rndc.key) exists, but using default configuration file (/etc/rndc.conf) rndc: connection to remote host closed This may indicate that * the remote server is using an older version of the command protocol, * this host is not authorized to connect, * the clocks are not synchronized, or * the key is invalid. named (pid 3442) is running.. but, after this, the Nameservers and DNS are working and solving. Anything to fix those awful messages? -- Carlos Sura.- www.carlossura.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] su path hard coded?
>> On 07/24/12 4:33 PM, Stephen Harris wrote: S> I want the ability to "set the default path". That's all. >> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 04:43:54PM -0700, John R Pierce wrote: J> set it in /etc/profile then. that gets run on su -l $someuser >> On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 19:53:23 -0400, Stephen Harris wrote: S> Who says all my users run "/bin/sh" or "/bin/bash" as their shell? Do I S> need to need to handle /etc/csh.login? And what about non-standard S> shells? It sounds like your best bet would be to change the source for su, and just be prepared to reinstall it if/when yum (or whatever) replaces it. Being able to specify the default PATH without having to mess with shell setup files is a nice feature; Solaris allows you to do this by providing an /etc/default/su file to set the PATH plus other things like whether you want to use syslog for access logging, etc. Why not change the production version to use (say) /etc/sysconfig/su for the default PATH? This way any admin can tweak su behavior to suit themselves without messing with the code, especially critical code like this. -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company Linus Torvalds takes one look at your desktop and knows which p*rn sites you visited. In the last ten years. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] EXT3-fs (dm-1): error: can't find ext3 filesystem on dev dm-1
On 07/25/2012 10:31 AM, chiong lawrence wrote: Hello there, I'm a new to linux need help in regards to issues during mounting of a new created logical unit which I am unable to mount the volume due to error as found below: ~]# mount -l -t ext3 /dev/mapper/vgNebula-lvg1 /mnt/iscsi0 mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/vgNebula-lvg1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so [root@HE ~]# mount -t ext3 /dev/mapper/vgNebula-lvg1 /mnt/iscsi0 mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/vgNebula-lvg1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so [root@HE ~]# tail /var/log/messages Jul 24 16:31:37 HE kernel: EXT3-fs (dm-1): error: can't find ext3 filesystem on dev dm-1. Jul 24 16:31:43 HE kernel: EXT3-fs (dm-1): error: can't find ext3 filesystem on dev dm-1. you have formatted the new volume?? i.e. see man mkfs.ext3 HTH Any help is very much appreciated. Thank you. lawrence ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
