Re: [CentOS] Can't get Grub work on clone of machine

2012-07-22 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 07/15/2012 10:15 PM, Gregory Machin wrote:
> # chroot /mnt/sysimage
> # grub-install /dev/sda
> /dev/sda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.

Typically that error means that "sda" does not appear in 
/boot/grub/device.map.  Your previous system probably used hda instead. 
  Update that file, replacing hda with sda, then reinstall grub.

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Re: [CentOS] Oracle tries to capture CentOS users

2012-07-22 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 07/20/2012 08:12 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> And I*love*  the chart... never mind that RH changed the build structure
> to give Oracle pain, and it hurt us

That change affects Oracle because they update and modify the kernel. 
Since it's not pristine + patches like other SRPMs, Oracle has a moving 
target and may need to manually fix each of the patches that they apply.

CentOS simply rebuilds the package, and I'm reasonably certain that I 
recall statements from the CentOS maintainers that Red Hat's changes 
don't affect their process.  I don't think your argument holds water.
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Re: [CentOS] Oracle tries to capture CentOS users

2012-07-22 Thread Hakan Koseoglu
On 22 July 2012 20:02, Gordon Messmer  wrote:
> On 07/20/2012 08:12 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>> And I*love*  the chart... never mind that RH changed the build structure
>> to give Oracle pain, and it hurt us
> That change affects Oracle because they update and modify the kernel.
> Since it's not pristine + patches like other SRPMs, Oracle has a moving
> target and may need to manually fix each of the patches that they apply.
As I understand, that's not exactly true. They have two kernels, UEK
which is not even the same version as the upstream and the one that's
identical to the upstream. They don't have to follow every single
upstream patch and apply to theirs. I have the impression they have a
completely separate bunch working on their own kernel & modifications.
I might be mistaken...
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[CentOS] redirect ssl mailman rpm

2012-07-22 Thread fakessh @
hello guys

I encounter a problem with the package mailman and forwarding ssl
my precedent conversation to this problem
http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg61411.html

mark sapiro was thinking of a httpd problem
I call the centos community to provide help me to rewrite the url for
this to work.

thanks
-- 
  http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xC2626742
  gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-key C2626742

  http://urlshort.eu fakessh @
  http://gplus.to/sshfake
  http://gplus.to/sshswilting
  http://gplus.to/john.swilting
  https://lists.fakessh.eu/mailman/
  This list is moderated by me, but all applications will be accepted
  provided they receive a note of presentation


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Re: [CentOS] Extracting the window (titlebar) name from a bash script?

2012-07-22 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 3:58 AM, Ron Yorston  wrote:
> wmctrl with the '-l -p' flags provides a list of windows with names and
> PIDs.  It's in EPEL for CentOS 6, though not 5.  It probably wouldn't be
> too hard to build for CentOS 5 if you needed it there.
>
> Ron

Thanks a bunch Ron!.

Exactly what I needed. This is one of those situations where a Google
search brings more noise than signal, due to the generic nature of the
terms involved (do a Google search for "find Window name" and see).
:)

I'm using CentOS 6 so that's not a problem. Thanks again!.

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Re: [CentOS] Oracle tries to capture CentOS users

2012-07-22 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 2:33 PM,   wrote:
> Um, there *is* a free version of Oracle.

I thought you meant "free as in freedom" and not "free as in free beer".
Yes, probably there is a free - limited - restricted -tryout -
development etc version fo Oracle database has IBM as provided of DB2
as well...

http://www-01.ibm.com/software/data/db2/express/

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Re: [CentOS] Oracle tries to capture CentOS users

2012-07-22 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Ken godee  wrote:
>> Fernando Cassia wrote:
> Why don't they just continue to do something more useful
> like continue the support for "OpenSolaris"!

To be honest, it never had any traction. At least not down here. And
it goes back to the Sun days, pre-Oracle.
Back in 2006 and 2007 Sun spent a lot in marketing and was down here
at Linux events with a Solaris booth or offering CDs etc... nobody
paid much attention to them...

I think the market for Solaris is the big corporations that use it to
run on high-end Sun/Oracle hardware (mostly Sparc), and those prefer
to pay to have a commercial grade solution with support. My guess is
that ORCL thought that they'd never get any ROI over 'free' Solaris,
nor any sizeable market share gain wrt Linux...

While some features like zones and zfs are interesting, Linux has also
improved as of late to fill some of those gaps...

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Re: [CentOS] Oracle tries to capture CentOS users

2012-07-22 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Brian Mathis
 wrote:
> Aren't the SRPMs available for OEL?  How about an "Indestructible
> CentOS" sub-distro?

Yes, the srpms are available. That' s completely possible to do :)

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Re: [CentOS] Oracle tries to capture CentOS users

2012-07-22 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Craig White  wrote:
> they want to sell SLA's which they sell cheaper than Red Hat which has caused 
> a rather sucky side effect which makes it more difficult to produce 
> customized kernels which would never have happened had Oracle not chosen to 
> ride the coattails of Red Hat and undercut the pricing

Well, if you see it the other way around, Oracle' s -and SUSE' s and
any other competition that might come along- help puts RHAT pricing in
check...

In the end what matters is if Oracle's kernel programmers are any
better at fixing bugs than RHAT's and if their support responds on
time or not.

For us end users with no support contract, the more heads and firms
that are involved in kernel dev and linux support, the better, more
chance of getting higher quality software.

I see plenty of patches/fixes to the Linux kernel by Oracle employees...
http://goo.gl/MqjCl

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Re: [CentOS] Oracle tries to capture CentOS users

2012-07-22 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 3:31 PM,   wrote:
> Don't worry, just as soon as Oracle drives RH under, or buys them, they'll
> crank up the prices to higher than RH now -

I don' t think that would happen anytime soon. AFAIK if you check
distrowatch Oracle Linux ranks #50 and CentOS ranks #8.

Also, I read somewhere that ORCL has 8,000 paid custmers to their
Linux subscription hardly a major player still.
But like I said, the more competition wrt pricing the better.

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Re: [CentOS] Oracle tries to capture CentOS users

2012-07-22 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 4:33 PM, John R. Dennison  wrote:
> So for all your ramblings of commercialism these past few posts you
> would rather use something free instead of paying?  Really?

I said that Oracle Database does not interest me, because MySQL /
PostgreSQL is enough for my simple needs.
And I couldn' t afford the price of Oracle's commercial database even
if I wanted to use it.

Now, their entry-level Linux support subscription is another thing...
if I start providing commercial services on top of a Linux box I'd
rather pay whatever entry level fee I can to get *some* level of
support (specially wrt priority security fixes). And there ORCL linux
is the most affordable compared to RHEL.

That's what I said and there's no contradiction.

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Re: [CentOS] Oracle tries to capture CentOS users

2012-07-22 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Craig White  wrote:
> >From my experience with Fernando on Fedora-List...

Hi there Craig :)

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[CentOS] n00b rsyslog.conf question - how to separate local syslog from network appliance syslog?

2012-07-22 Thread Rogelio
I have several network appliances, and I want aggregate their syslog
output for later analysis.  Eventually I might think about a Splunk
box, but for the interim I'm hoping to just build a CentOS 6 syslog
server and have it aggregate everything on it for quick review.

I installed rsyslog and am looking through the /etc/rsyslog.conf file
for what I configure to (a) listen for syslog input from other devices
(UDP port 514 is fine), (b) make a log, and (c) log rotate files.

(a) I see in there (if I comment it out)

# Provides UDP syslog reception
$ModLoad imudp
$UDPServerRun 514

(Obviously add an iptables rule to let this traffic in)

(b) I see options in there, but  am not sure how to separate the local
logs from the remote logs.  Is it something like the following?

*.*;local6.none;
auth,authpriv.none-/var/log/syslog

(c) I understand I can do if I edit
/etc/logrotate.d/MyNetworkAppliance.log.  This isn't as big of a
concern right now.  Just trying to figure out how to log things
separately.  :/

Any suggestions on what I should do to make this work?
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[CentOS] system-config-network-tui not part of base install... wtf

2012-07-22 Thread Fernando Cassia
Who was the genius that decided that system-config-network-tui should
NOT be part of the base CentOS 6.3 install ??

Not to mention it has insane deps like wifi firmware packages... not
really if all you want to do is configure eth0 from the command
line...

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[CentOS] 'localyum' alias...

2012-07-22 Thread Fernando Cassia
This alias should be a great default addition to the bashrc... as it
helps install packages to a CentOS system from the mounted install CD
before you get networking up and running...

alias localyum='yum --disablerepo=* localinstall'

Does Red Hat care about Requests for Enhancement? or is filing a bug pointless?

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Re: [CentOS] 'localyum' alias...

2012-07-22 Thread Fabien Archambault
2012/7/23 Fernando Cassia :
> This alias should be a great default addition to the bashrc... as it
> helps install packages to a CentOS system from the mounted install CD
> before you get networking up and running...
>
> alias localyum='yum --disablerepo=* localinstall'
>
> Does Red Hat care about Requests for Enhancement? or is filing a bug 
> pointless?
>
> FC

Since the latest version of yum obsolete (in Fedora at least so I
believe in CentOS it is/will be the same) the localinstall option, I
believe that using this alias is useless.

Fabien
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Re: [CentOS] 'localyum' alias...

2012-07-22 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 3:00 AM, Fabien Archambault
 wrote:
> Since the latest version of yum obsolete the localinstall option, I
> believe that using this alias is useless.

I have used yum's localinstall option on my CenOS 6.3 box... and it worked...

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Re: [CentOS] 'localyum' alias...

2012-07-22 Thread Fabien Archambault
2012/7/23 Fernando Cassia :
> On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 3:00 AM, Fabien Archambault
>  wrote:
>> Since the latest version of yum obsolete the localinstall option, I
>> believe that using this alias is useless.
>
> I have used yum's localinstall option on my CenOS 6.3 box... and it worked...

This option is kept for legacy purpose [1] (or man yum). It works yet
but will be removed in the future releases (years ago) I believe.

[1] http://linux.die.net/man/8/yum

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