Re: [CentOS] Translate Centos Release Notes into your own non-English Language

2011-07-11 Thread Emmanuel Noobadmin
On 7/11/11, Always Learning  wrote:
> Should the Centos Mailing List diversify into non-English language
> versions ? For example, Chinese (which version?) , Spanish, Portuguese,
> Russian, Serbian etc. etc. ?
>
> For example: chin...@centos.org

Personally I think that would dilute the effectiveness of the mailing
list as a community support channel if everybody only post to and/or
follow their own language list. If they have to duplicate
following/posting to the main list, there isn't really any difference
from the status quo is there?

Also, I think (no data, pure speculation) most admins by virtue of the
job tend to pick up functional English along the way so having
language-specific mailing list may not be that useful?
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Re: [CentOS] More on CentOS autotools bug

2011-07-11 Thread John Hodrien
On Sun, 10 Jul 2011, Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote:

> On 7/8/11, Les Mikesell  wrote:
>> On 7/8/2011 9:45 AM, John Hodrien wrote:
>>>
>>> I was curious, so *did* find out what the cause was, and it's entirely not
>>> CentOS's fault.  It's very hard to shoot blindly given that the cause was
>>> likely not to be CentOS.  That only left his autoconf files, and tracing
>>> configure made it quite easy to find.
>>>
>>
>> So he's done something non-standard that he doesn't remember on the RH
>> system where he claims it works
>
> Specifically somebody edited the files on a Windows machine and the
> process choked on the CR/LF

Yes, but that also means the assertion that it built fine on Redhat and so
must be a CentOS problem was clearly untrue.

Vague description of problem where some of what you're being vague about is in
fact not true really doesn't help people track down your problems.

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Re: [CentOS] Congratulations to the Centos Team for the hard work on Centos 6

2011-07-11 Thread hersh parikh
Kudos for development team...

Thank you for all your efforts




From: Eero Volotinen 
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Sent: Monday, 11 July 2011 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Congratulations to the Centos Team for the hard work on 
Centos 6

2011/7/11 Luigi Rosa :
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> Philip L Pinto said the following on 11/07/11 06:11:
>
>> I just wanted to say Congratulations and thank you to the Centos Team for
>> all of the work on Centos 6 -
>
> +1

Great. +1. Now just waiting for Centos 6.1

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[CentOS] CentOS 6 CDs isos...

2011-07-11 Thread John Doe
Hey,

just wondering if CentOS 6 CDs isos are also planned, or if there will be only 
the DVDs ones...?

Thx,
JD

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 CDs isos...

2011-07-11 Thread Tom Diehl
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, John Doe wrote:

> Hey,
>
> just wondering if CentOS 6 CDs isos are also planned, or if there will be 
> only the DVDs ones...?

You might want to read the announcement @ http://www.centos.org?

You will find the answer to your question there.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 CDs isos...

2011-07-11 Thread Spook ZA
On 11 July 2011 13:22, John Doe  wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
> just wondering if CentOS 6 CDs isos are also planned, or if there will be 
> only the DVDs ones...?
>
Have a look here:
http://www.karan.org/blog/index.php/2011/07/10/release-for-centos-6-0-i386-and-x86-64
It gives details of all the disk sets.
>
> Thx,
> JD

Regards,
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[CentOS] make install?

2011-07-11 Thread hadi motamedi
Dear All
I downloaded the octave-3.4.2 and tried to install it on my centos 5.6
as the following:
#./configure
But it prompted for lack of a c compiler, so I tried to install gcc
first and then re-executed it and it was successful.
#make
But it prompts as "No targets specified and no makefile found".
#make install
But it prompts as "No rule to make target 'install'".
I had the same steps for installing applications when I was on my
centos 5.0 machine. Can you please let me know what is wrong my case?
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Re: [CentOS] make install?

2011-07-11 Thread Anthony Newman
On 11/07/11 12:58, hadi motamedi wrote:
> Dear All
> I downloaded the octave-3.4.2 and tried to install it on my centos 5.6
> as the following:
> #./configure
> But it prompted for lack of a c compiler, so I tried to install gcc
> first and then re-executed it and it was successful.
> #make
> But it prompts as "No targets specified and no makefile found".
> #make install
> But it prompts as "No rule to make target 'install'".
> I had the same steps for installing applications when I was on my
> centos 5.0 machine. Can you please let me know what is wrong my case?

You mistyped 'yum install octave'

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Re: [CentOS] make install?

2011-07-11 Thread hadi motamedi
On 7/11/11, Anthony Newman  wrote:
> On 11/07/11 12:58, hadi motamedi wrote:
>> Dear All
>> I downloaded the octave-3.4.2 and tried to install it on my centos 5.6
>> as the following:
>> #./configure
>> But it prompted for lack of a c compiler, so I tried to install gcc
>> first and then re-executed it and it was successful.
>> #make
>> But it prompts as "No targets specified and no makefile found".
>> #make install
>> But it prompts as "No rule to make target 'install'".
>> I had the same steps for installing applications when I was on my
>> centos 5.0 machine. Can you please let me know what is wrong my case?
>
> You mistyped 'yum install octave'
>
> Ant
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Thank you for your reply. But I got its *.tar.gz package and tried
from it. Do you mean '#yum install octave' is all sufficient to
install it? Please confirm.
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Re: [CentOS] make install?

2011-07-11 Thread Always Learning

On Mon, 2011-07-11 at 16:59 +0430, hadi motamedi wrote:

> On 7/11/11, Anthony Newman  wrote:

> > You mistyped 'yum install octave'

> Thank you for your reply. But I got its *.tar.gz package and tried
> from it. Do you mean '#yum install octave' is all sufficient to
> install it? Please confirm.

No # prefix.

Just type: 

yum install octave


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Re: [CentOS] make install?

2011-07-11 Thread John Doe
From: hadi motamedi 

> #make
> But it prompts as "No targets specified and no makefile found".
> #make install
> But it prompts as "No rule to make target 'install'".

If make says there is no Makefile, make install will not work either...
Did you check the configure log file to see what is wrong?

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Re: [CentOS] make install?

2011-07-11 Thread Alain Péan
Le 11/07/2011 14:33, Always Learning a écrit :
> On Mon, 2011-07-11 at 16:59 +0430, hadi motamedi wrote:
>
>> On 7/11/11, Anthony Newman  wrote:
>>> You mistyped 'yum install octave'
>> Thank you for your reply. But I got its *.tar.gz package and tried
>> from it. Do you mean '#yum install octave' is all sufficient to
>> install it? Please confirm.
> No # prefix.
>
> Just type:
>
>   yum install octave

Did you verify ? I just did a 'yum info octave' on one of my CentOS 5.6 
machine, and there it is what I get :
Name   : octave
Arch   : x86_64
Epoch  : 6
Version: 3.0.5
Release: 1.el5
Size   : 12 M
Repo   : epel
Summary: A high-level language for numerical computations

So, octave is not available from base repo, but only through an 
additional repository, EPEL in this case.

As said by John Doe, for hadi, if installing from source and getting 
thesse make errors, you have to verify if there is any correct Makefile 
inside the directory from where you type 'make'.

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[CentOS] Switch from SL -> Centos

2011-07-11 Thread Nicolas Ross
For those interested, I switched a SL 6 desktop I use at my desk to CentOS 6 
without a hurt...

Did :

Downloaded centos-release-6-0.el6.centos.5.x86_64.rpm and 
redhat-logos-60.0.14-10.el6.noarch.rpm from CentOS repo

rpm -e --nodeps sl-release redhat-logos
rpm -hiv redhat-logos-60.0.14-10.el6.noarch.rpm 
centos-release-6-0.el6.centos.5.x86_64.rpm

yum update

reboot, and voilà

The only thing I noted, is that the boot screen (the image that covers the 
init scripts) is still centos, but the shutdown one is centos'

Have fun and thanks for that great long awaited release.

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Re: [CentOS] Congratulations to the Centos Team for the hard work on Centos 6

2011-07-11 Thread Brunner, Brian T.
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote:
> 2011/7/11 Luigi Rosa :
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>> Philip L Pinto said the following on 11/07/11 06:11:
>> 
>>> I just wanted to say Congratulations and thank you to the Centos
>>> Team for all of the work on Centos 6 -
>> 
>> +1
> 
> Great. +1. Now just waiting for Centos 6.1

Here's hoping CentOS 6.1 comes out before RHEL 6.2


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Re: [CentOS] make install?

2011-07-11 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
hadi motamedi wrote:
>>
> Thank you for your reply. But I got its *.tar.gz package and tried
> from it. Do you mean '#yum install octave' is all sufficient to
> install it? Please confirm.

Have you tried it?

octave 3.0.x is supported by CentOS 5.x and installed from yum.

You should always first try yum, then see if there is some rpm in third 
party repositories, and only if you do not find any compile it your self.
Problem with compiling it your self is that you might not be able to 
resolve all dependencies. It looks like you will need ~10 additional 
packages, which yum will solve automatically.

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Re: [CentOS] make install?

2011-07-11 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
John Doe wrote:
> From: hadi motamedi 
> 
>> #make
>> But it prompts as "No targets specified and no makefile found".
>> #make install
>> But it prompts as "No rule to make target 'install'".
> 
> If make says there is no Makefile, make install will not work either...
> Did you check the configure log file to see what is wrong?
> 
Octave 3.0.5 needs 14 additional packages. Compiling it would need 
additional 5-10. Plus packages for development tools other then gcc.

He better install[1] EPEL repository and install it via yum.

[1]: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL

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Re: [CentOS] Switch from SL -> Centos

2011-07-11 Thread James Hogarth
>
> Downloaded centos-release-6-0.el6.centos.5.x86_64.rpm and
> redhat-logos-60.0.14-10.el6.noarch.rpm from CentOS repo
>
> rpm -e --nodeps sl-release redhat-logos
> rpm -hiv redhat-logos-60.0.14-10.el6.noarch.rpm
> centos-release-6-0.el6.centos.5.x86_64.rpm
>
> yum update
>
> reboot, and voilà
>

The above would only update a package if the centos repos had a higher
version number than the installed SL one I would strongly suggest
something akin to yum reinstall \* and leave it to chug away (backups
first naturally) for a while to refresh all the packages and teh rpm
database to be in sync with the centos build. requires matching,
same build options for sure etc etc

In the event something crops up it at least eliminates an odd untested
mix for certain fundamental packages like glibc etc

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Re: [CentOS] Congratulations to the Centos Team for the hard work on Centos 6

2011-07-11 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Brunner, Brian T. wrote:
> Here's hoping CentOS 6.1 comes out before RHEL 6.2

As far as I gathered from recent post by members of dev team, at least 
majority of 6.1 is compiled and ready for initial QA process. Of course, 
this is not official info, just my calculation. But it should definitely 
  take less then 30 days from 6.0 release.

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Re: [CentOS] make install?

2011-07-11 Thread Always Learning

On Mon, 2011-07-11 at 14:53 +0200, Alain Péan wrote:


> So, octave is not available from base repo, but only through an 
> additional repository, EPEL in this case.
> 
> As said by John Doe, for hadi, if installing from source and getting 
> thesse make errors, you have to verify if there is any correct
> Makefile 
> inside the directory from where you type 'make'.

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[CentOS] Restore the moved directory

2011-07-11 Thread beklan
Hi,

By mistake, I moved the directory /etc to the /home. How  can i restore the
sytem back (or, at least that directory back)?

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Re: [CentOS] make install?

2011-07-11 Thread Always Learning

On Mon, 2011-07-11 at 14:59 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:

> hadi motamedi wrote:
> >>
> > Thank you for your reply. But I got its *.tar.gz package and tried
> > from it. Do you mean '#yum install octave' is all sufficient to
> > install it? Please confirm.

> Have you tried it?
> 
> octave 3.0.x is supported by CentOS 5.x and installed from yum.

Not on this 5.6 system:

yum install octave = No package octave available.

Active repos =

01-CentOS-Base.repo
11-kbsingh-CentOS-Misc.repo
21-rpmforge21.repo
22-elrepo.repo

(the numeric prefix signifies the YUM Priority)


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Re: [CentOS] Restore the moved directory

2011-07-11 Thread Always Learning

On Mon, 2011-07-11 at 16:24 +0300, beklan wrote:


> By mistake, I moved the directory /etc to the /home. How  can i restore the
> sytem back (or, at least that directory back)?

I would download Parted Magic, make a CD and boot from it.

http://partedmagic.com/doku.php?id=downloads

The Linux CD installs into RAM and allows you to mount drives and, I
assume, copy or move directories. I found it useful for correcting
errors in fstab and creating directories as well as partitioning drives.

Good Luck.


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS-6, isos and release

2011-07-11 Thread Charles Polisher
b.j. mcclure wrote:
> Giles Coochey wrote:
> > They've had a last minute flip flop and they're going to move "Terminal" 
> > back from Applications --> System Tools to Applications --> 
> > Accessories... :-)... oh wait - that's probably an upstream change :-)
> > 
> > Honestly though - I've installed what was made available (what claims to 
> > be Centos 6.0) in a VM, and I always seem to have some trouble locating 
> > the terminal application in the GUI. Why do they move it around all the 
> > time?
> 
> FWIW, it is in Applications --> System Tools on my copy of RHEL 6.

For me "alt+F2 xterm " is faster than hunting down
the menu item (KDE). But I also add an xterm (or rxvt) button
to the panel in both KDE and Gnome. Prolly should define a
global key combination just for that.

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Re: [CentOS] Restore the moved directory

2011-07-11 Thread m . roth
Always Learning wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2011-07-11 at 16:24 +0300, beklan wrote:
>
>
>> By mistake, I moved the directory /etc to the /home. How  can i restore
>> the sytem back (or, at least that directory back)?
>
> I would download Parted Magic, make a CD and boot from it.
>
>   http://partedmagic.com/doku.php?id=downloads
>
> The Linux CD installs into RAM and allows you to mount drives and, I
> assume, copy or move directories. I found it useful for correcting
> errors in fstab and creating directories as well as partitioning drives.

That seems excessive. If you haven't rebooted, why not just mv /home/etc
/? If not, any linux distro has a boot option from the install media of
linux rescue.

 mark

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Re: [CentOS] make install?

2011-07-11 Thread m . roth
John Doe wrote:
> From: hadi motamedi 
>
>> #make
>> But it prompts as "No targets specified and no makefile found".
>> #make install
>> But it prompts as "No rule to make target 'install'".
>
> If make says there is no Makefile, make install will not work either...
> Did you check the configure log file to see what is wrong?
>
And are you in the correct directory?

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Re: [CentOS] Restore the moved directory

2011-07-11 Thread Robert Heller
At Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:24:01 +0300 CentOS mailing list  
wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> By mistake, I moved the directory /etc to the /home. How  can i restore the
> sytem back (or, at least that directory back)?

Boot with a rescue disk, mount your (broken) system under /sysimage and
then do:

mv /sysimage/home/etc /sysimage/




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Re: [CentOS] Congratulations to the Centos Team for the hard work on Centos 6

2011-07-11 Thread Keith Roberts
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, hersh parikh wrote:

> To: CentOS mailing list 
> From: hersh parikh 
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Congratulations to the Centos Team for the hard work on
> Centos 6
> 
> Kudos for development team...
>
> Thank you for all your efforts

Yep - me too! Please keep ut the excellent work, and don't 
be put off by any negative comments!

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Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-11 Thread Brunner, Brian T.
Ljubomir The Wise wrote:
> Short version (I am hungry):
> 
> Experience (19 years of Windows phone support and 5 years of Linux
> administration and usage as a desktop surrounded by Windows
> users) says that in order to convert (reluctant) Windows user you have
to fully
> replicate Windows environment with compatible Linux Apps. Period.

+googolplex!
DirectX games, facebook, facebook games, other games, skype,
garage-band, and many many more.
Many of these *can* be tweaked into running under Linux, by somebody who
knows how.  
My wife will *never* know how.
Yum install "World of Warcraft" (or whatever game, which looks for the
game installed on your NTFS file system, downloads anything needed,
configures and leaves a ready-to-click-and-play WoW on the Linux side)
or forget it, you're not ready to push Windows off the desktop.


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Re: [CentOS] make install?

2011-07-11 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Always Learning wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-07-11 at 14:59 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> 
>> hadi motamedi wrote:
>>> Thank you for your reply. But I got its *.tar.gz package and tried
>>> from it. Do you mean '#yum install octave' is all sufficient to
>>> install it? Please confirm.
> 
>> Have you tried it?
>>
>> octave 3.0.x is supported by CentOS 5.x and installed from yum.
> 
> Not on this 5.6 system:
> 
> yum install octave = No package octave available.
> 
> Active repos =
>   
>   01-CentOS-Base.repo
>   11-kbsingh-CentOS-Misc.repo
>   21-rpmforge21.repo
>   22-elrepo.repo
> 
> (the numeric prefix signifies the YUM Priority)
> 
> 
EPEL, not ElRepo!

Installing:
  octave i386  6:3.0.5-1.el5plc-epel 12 M
  octave x86_646:3.0.5-1.el5plc-epel 12 M
Installing for dependencies:
  atlas-sse  i386  3.8.3-1.el5  plc-epel2.6 M
  blas   i386  3.0-37.el5   plc-os  321 k
  blas   x86_643.0-37.el5   plc-os  328 k
  glpk   i386  4.20-2.el5   plc-epel737 k
  glpk   x86_644.20-2.el5   plc-epel734 k
  hdf5   i386  1.6.10-1.el5 plc-epel4.6 M
  hdf5   x86_641.6.10-1.el5 plc-epel4.6 M
  libgfortrani386  4.1.2-50.el5 plc-os  232 k
  qhull  i386  2003.1-8.el5 plc-epel380 k
  qhull  x86_642003.1-8.el5 plc-epel385 k
  suitesparsei386  3.1.0-1.el5  plc-epel931 k
  suitesparsex86_643.1.0-1.el5  plc-epel986 k


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Re: [CentOS] make install?

2011-07-11 Thread Samuel Torralba
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Always Learning  wrote:

>
> On Mon, 2011-07-11 at 14:59 +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
>
> > hadi motamedi wrote:
> > >>
> > > Thank you for your reply. But I got its *.tar.gz package and tried
> > > from it. Do you mean '#yum install octave' is all sufficient to
> > > install it? Please confirm.
>
> > Have you tried it?
> >
> > octave 3.0.x is supported by CentOS 5.x and installed from yum.
>
> Not on this 5.6 system:
>
> yum install octave = No package octave available.
>
> Active repos =
>
>01-CentOS-Base.repo
>11-kbsingh-CentOS-Misc.repo
>21-rpmforge21.repo
>22-elrepo.repo
>
> (the numeric prefix signifies the YUM Priority)
>
>
Octave is in the EPEL repository


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Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-11 Thread Christopher Chan
On Monday, July 11, 2011 10:03 PM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote:
> Ljubomir The Wise wrote:
>> Short version (I am hungry):
>>
>> Experience (19 years of Windows phone support and 5 years of Linux
>> administration and usage as a desktop surrounded by Windows
>> users) says that in order to convert (reluctant) Windows user you have
> to fully
>> replicate Windows environment with compatible Linux Apps. Period.
>
> +googolplex!
> DirectX games, facebook, facebook games, other games, skype,
> garage-band, and many many more.
> Many of these *can* be tweaked into running under Linux, by somebody who
> knows how.
> My wife will *never* know how.
> Yum install "World of Warcraft" (or whatever game, which looks for the
> game installed on your NTFS file system, downloads anything needed,
> configures and leaves a ready-to-click-and-play WoW on the Linux side)
> or forget it, you're not ready to push Windows off the desktop.
>

I hear that WoW is going the way of the dodo due to lack of creativity 
there. Maybe you have some other more pressing example likeminesweeper?
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Re: [CentOS] Installing OS on Flash Drive on Server

2011-07-11 Thread Keith Roberts
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Muhammad Panji wrote:

> To: CentOS mailing list 
> From: Muhammad Panji 
> Subject: [CentOS] Installing OS on Flash Drive on Server
> 
> Hi All,
> On my gateway server I'm Installing CentOS on a flashdrive. is that a bad
> idea? the server keep hang, I can ping the server from the LAN and from the
> internet, the internet connection from LAN to internet is OK but another
> service is down, ssh, VPN (PPTPD) and another service. Even the console is
> unresponsive so I have to reset the server. Last time when I still can do
> SSH to server the / drive is mounted read only, when I try to remount rw it
> said error write protected but the flash drive itself have no write
> protection. I'm wondering is using Flashdrive on server OS is a bad idea?
> anyone have similar experience? thank you.
> regards,

Hi Muhammad. You might like to check the mailing-list 
archives for June, as there was quite a long discusiion on 
using Flash USB drives an SSD's for Centos installations.

I think the general conclusions were that Flass drives are 
not really designed for this, and will wear out quickly, and 
the SDD's can fail without any warning whatsoever - and 
bang does your OS and/or your data.

Kind Regards,

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Re: [CentOS] make install?

2011-07-11 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Always Learning wrote:
> Active repos =
>   
>   01-CentOS-Base.repo
>   11-kbsingh-CentOS-Misc.repo
>   21-rpmforge21.repo
>   22-elrepo.repo
> 
[root@kancelarija2 ~]# yum repolist
Loaded plugins: aliases, fastestmirror, priorities
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
repo id  repo name status
playonlinux  playonlinux official repo enabled: 8
addons   addons - 5 - x86_64   enabled: 0
adobe-linux  adobe - 5 - x86_64enabled: 0
centosplus   centosplus - 5 - x86_64   enabled:77
elrepo   elrepo - 5 - x86_64   enabled:   309
epel epel - 5 - x86_64 enabled: 6,518
extras   extras - 5 - x86_64   enabled:   299
os   os - 5 - x86_64   enabled: 3,539
pidgin   pidgin - 5 - x86_64   enabled: 0
releases plc-releases - 5 - x86_64 enabled: 3
updates  updates - 5 - x86_64  enabled:   735
virtualbox   virtualbox - 5 - x86_64   enabled:15
virtualmin-universal virtualmin-universal - 5 - x86_64 enabled:   133
plnet-compiled   plnet-compiled - 5 - x86_64   enabled:10
plnet-downloaded plnet-downloaded - 5 - x86_64 enabled:   736
plnet-releases   plnet-releases - 5 - x86_64   enabled:14
repolist: 12,396

Those are always enabled.
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Re: [CentOS] Restore the moved directory

2011-07-11 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Robert Heller wrote:
> At Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:24:01 +0300 CentOS mailing list  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> By mistake, I moved the directory /etc to the /home. How  can i restore the
>> sytem back (or, at least that directory back)?
> 
> Boot with a rescue disk, mount your (broken) system under /sysimage and
> then do:
> 
> mv /sysimage/home/etc /sysimage/
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Re: [CentOS] [CentOS-announce] Release for CentOS-6.0 i386 and x86_64

2011-07-11 Thread aly . khimji
Just wanted to extend a personal thanks to the CentOS team for their hard work 
and dedication on this release and on the CentOS distro itself.

Thanks for this release and everything else you all have provided and continue 
to provide, despite all the distractions and what not. 

Much appreciated

AK


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Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-11 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Brunner, Brian T. wrote:
> Ljubomir The Wise wrote:
>> Short version (I am hungry):
>>
>> Experience (19 years of Windows phone support and 5 years of Linux
>> administration and usage as a desktop surrounded by Windows
>> users) says that in order to convert (reluctant) Windows user you have
> to fully
>> replicate Windows environment with compatible Linux Apps. Period.
> 
> +googolplex!
> DirectX games, facebook, facebook games, other games, skype,
> garage-band, and many many more.
> Many of these *can* be tweaked into running under Linux, by somebody who
> knows how.  
> My wife will *never* know how.
> Yum install "World of Warcraft" (or whatever game, which looks for the
> game installed on your NTFS file system, downloads anything needed,
> configures and leaves a ready-to-click-and-play WoW on the Linux side)
> or forget it, you're not ready to push Windows off the desktop.
> 
Go to PlayOnLinux web site, download and install it. Then you can 
install 70+ games via their interface. Each will have their own tweaked 
wine configuration.

But I suggest using CentOS 6 for games, it is *much* closer to Fedora 
(newer all together).

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[CentOS] Centos 6 Server has no GUI

2011-07-11 Thread Keith Beeby
Hi,

So first daft question with Centos 6 (someone had to be first!) I've setup 
Centos 6 as a Server but as with Centos 5 it used to boot into the GUI but v6 
doesn't do this, startx etc doesn't seem to work to launch the GUI

Any suggestions on how I can get this to work?

Thank you

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[CentOS] Suggest Hardware Raid Controller Card

2011-07-11 Thread Kaushal Shriyan
Hi,

I have HP DL 180 G6 2U Server loaded with CentOS 5.6. Can someone
please suggest any good Hardware Raid Controller Card for the
mentioned Hardware and OS. The reason being this server comes with
Onboard Sata Controller chipset (HP Smart Array B110i Controller).
This server has SATA Harddrive - 4 Nos of 500GB each and the OS
doesnot detect it.


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[CentOS] Antwort: Centos 6 Server has no GUI

2011-07-11 Thread Andreas Reschke
centos-boun...@centos.org schrieb am 11.07.2011 16:43:11:

> Keith Beeby  
> Gesendet von: centos-boun...@centos.org
> 
> 11.07.2011 16:43
> 
> Bitte antworten an
> CentOS mailing list 
> 
> An
> 
> CentOS mailing list 
> 
> Kopie
> 
> Thema
> 
> [CentOS] Centos 6 Server has no GUI
> 
> Hi,
> 
> So first daft question with Centos 6 (someone had to be first!) I've
> setup Centos 6 as a Server but as with Centos 5 it used to boot into
> the GUI but v6 doesn't do this, startx etc doesn't seem to work to 
> launch the GUI
> 
> Any suggestions on how I can get this to work?
> 
> Thank you
> 
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Hello Keith,

I've installed it yesterday on a HP Microserver with GUI with the second 
entry from the boot list.  For me it works .
But I haven't installed a gui on the server, just only the installation.

Gruß
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Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Server has no GUI

2011-07-11 Thread aly . khimji
This might seem obvious but have you checked to see if you have X or any GUI 
desktops installed?

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Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Server has no GUI

2011-07-11 Thread Giles Coochey
On Mon, July 11, 2011 16:43, Keith Beeby wrote:
> Hi,
>
> So first daft question with Centos 6 (someone had to be first!) I've setup
> Centos 6 as a Server but as with Centos 5 it used to boot into the GUI but
> v6 doesn't do this, startx etc doesn't seem to work to launch the GUI
>
> Any suggestions on how I can get this to work?
>
perhaps::

yum groupinstall "GNOME Desktop Environment"






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Re: [CentOS] Switch from SL -> Centos

2011-07-11 Thread Nicolas Ross
> The above would only update a package if the centos repos had a higher
> version number than the installed SL one I would strongly suggest
> something akin to yum reinstall \* and leave it to chug away (backups
> first naturally) for a while to refresh all the packages and teh rpm
> database to be in sync with the centos build. requires matching,
> same build options for sure etc etc
>
> In the event something crops up it at least eliminates an odd untested
> mix for certain fundamental packages like glibc etc

Yes, I know, for that machine, it's just a desktop that has x-window, gnome 
and a console opened up all day. I don't mind it if it function strangly... 
In any event, I'll just wipe the whole thing... 

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Re: [CentOS] Suggest Hardware Raid Controller Card

2011-07-11 Thread Colin Coles
On Monday 11 July 2011 15:49, Kaushal Shriyan wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have HP DL 180 G6 2U Server loaded with CentOS 5.6. Can someone
> please suggest any good Hardware Raid Controller Card for the
> mentioned Hardware and OS. The reason being this server comes with
> Onboard Sata Controller chipset (HP Smart Array B110i Controller).
> This server has SATA Harddrive - 4 Nos of 500GB each and the OS
> doesnot detect it.
>

Have you set up the array using the disk setup utility?

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Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-11 Thread Brunner, Brian T.
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote:
> On Monday, July 11, 2011 10:03 PM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote:
>> Ljubomir The Wise wrote:
>>> Short version (I am hungry):
>>> 
>>> Experience (19 years of Windows phone support and 5 years of Linux
>>> administration and usage as a desktop surrounded by Windows
>>> users) says that in order to convert (reluctant) Windows user you
>>> have to fully replicate Windows environment with compatible Linux
>>> Apps. Period. 
>> 
>> +googolplex!
>> DirectX games, facebook, facebook games, other games, skype,
>> garage-band, and many many more.
>> Many of these *can* be tweaked into running under Linux, by somebody
>> who knows how. My wife will *never* know how.
>> Yum install "World of Warcraft" (or whatever game, which looks for
>> the game installed on your NTFS file system, downloads anything
>> needed, configures and leaves a ready-to-click-and-play WoW on the
>> Linux side) or forget it, you're not ready to push Windows off the
>> desktop. 
>> 
> 
> I hear that WoW is going the way of the dodo due to lack of creativity

Those voices aren't technologically savvy.  WoW is still growing.

> there. Maybe you have some other more pressing example
> likeminesweeper? ___

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Re: [CentOS] Suggest Hardware Raid Controller Card

2011-07-11 Thread Kaushal Shriyan
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 8:34 PM, Colin Coles  wrote:
> On Monday 11 July 2011 15:49, Kaushal Shriyan wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have HP DL 180 G6 2U Server loaded with CentOS 5.6. Can someone
>> please suggest any good Hardware Raid Controller Card for the
>> mentioned Hardware and OS. The reason being this server comes with
>> Onboard Sata Controller chipset (HP Smart Array B110i Controller).
>> This server has SATA Harddrive - 4 Nos of 500GB each and the OS
>> doesnot detect it.
>>
>
> Have you set up the array using the disk setup utility?

Hi,

Yes I have setup RAID 1+0 Array using HP Smart Controller B110i BIOS.
It shows usable disk space of approx 940 GB but the OS does not see it
instead it shows all the 4 * 500 GB HDD.

Regards,

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Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Server has no GUI

2011-07-11 Thread Robert Heller
At Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:43:11 +0100 CentOS mailing list  
wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> So first daft question with Centos 6 (someone had to be first!) I've setup 
> Centos 6 as a Server but as with Centos 5 it used to boot into the GUI but v6 
> doesn't do this, startx etc doesn't seem to work to launch the GUI
> 
> Any suggestions on how I can get this to work?

Why do you want a GUI on a *server*?  

> 
> Thank you
> 
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Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide

2011-07-11 Thread m . roth
Brunner, Brian T. wrote:
> centos-boun...@centos.org wrote:
>> On Monday, July 11, 2011 10:03 PM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote:
>>> Ljubomir The Wise wrote:
 Short version (I am hungry):

 Experience (19 years of Windows phone support and 5 years of Linux
 administration and usage as a desktop surrounded by Windows
 users) says that in order to convert (reluctant) Windows user you
 have to fully replicate Windows environment with compatible Linux
 Apps. Period.
>>>
>>> +googolplex!
>>> DirectX games, facebook, facebook games, other games, skype,
>>> garage-band, and many many more.
>>> Many of these *can* be tweaked into running under Linux, by somebody
>>> who knows how. My wife will *never* know how.
>>> Yum install "World of Warcraft" (or whatever game, which looks for
>>> the game installed on your NTFS file system, downloads anything
>>> needed, configures and leaves a ready-to-click-and-play WoW on the
>>> Linux side) or forget it, you're not ready to push Windows off the
>>> desktop.
>>>
>>
>> I hear that WoW is going the way of the dodo due to lack of creativity
>
> Those voices aren't technologically savvy.  WoW is still growing.
>
>> there. Maybe you have some other more pressing example
>> likeminesweeper? ___
>
> I am at a loss parsing your reply as anything other than ignorant
> derision.
> Why do you think minesweeper is more pressing?

Perhaps an edit is appropriate:

>> I hear that WoW is going the way of the dodo due to lack of creativity
>> there. Maybe you have some other more pressing example
>> likeminesweeper?


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Re: [CentOS] Suggest Hardware Raid Controller Card

2011-07-11 Thread m . roth
Kaushal Shriyan wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 8:34 PM, Colin Coles  wrote:
>> On Monday 11 July 2011 15:49, Kaushal Shriyan wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have HP DL 180 G6 2U Server loaded with CentOS 5.6. Can someone
>>> please suggest any good Hardware Raid Controller Card for the
>>> mentioned Hardware and OS. The reason being this server comes with
>>> Onboard Sata Controller chipset (HP Smart Array B110i Controller).
>>> This server has SATA Harddrive - 4 Nos of 500GB each and the OS
>>> doesnot detect it.
>>
>> Have you set up the array using the disk setup utility?
>
> Yes I have setup RAID 1+0 Array using HP Smart Controller B110i BIOS.
> It shows usable disk space of approx 940 GB but the OS does not see it
> instead it shows all the 4 * 500 GB HDD.

If you go back into the bootup RAID firmware, does it show it that way?
Was the RAID initialized?

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Re: [CentOS] Suggest Hardware Raid Controller Card

2011-07-11 Thread Robert Heller
At Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:42:56 +0530 CentOS mailing list  
wrote:

> 
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 8:34 PM, Colin Coles  wrote:
> > On Monday 11 July 2011 15:49, Kaushal Shriyan wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I have HP DL 180 G6 2U Server loaded with CentOS 5.6. Can someone
> >> please suggest any good Hardware Raid Controller Card for the
> >> mentioned Hardware and OS. The reason being this server comes with
> >> Onboard Sata Controller chipset (HP Smart Array B110i Controller).
> >> This server has SATA Harddrive - 4 Nos of 500GB each and the OS
> >> doesnot detect it.
> >>
> >
> > Have you set up the array using the disk setup utility?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Yes I have setup RAID 1+0 Array using HP Smart Controller B110i BIOS.
> It shows usable disk space of approx 940 GB but the OS does not see it
> instead it shows all the 4 * 500 GB HDD.

The HP Smart Array B110i Controller is not a real RAID controller it is
A BIOS/Special driver based 'software RAID' (aka 'fakeraid').  You need
a special driver (not included with RHEL/CentOS.  You are actually
better off disabling the RAID function of the HP Smart Array B110i
Controller and configure it as a plain AHCI SATA controller and using
the Linux software RAID (md raid) instead.

A true hardware RAID controller would probably cost almost as much as
the server itself.  Just about all of the cheap (so called) SATA RAID
controller cards are some flavor of fakeraid.  A few are supported as DM
Raid under Linux, but many are not.

> 
> Regards,
> 
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Re: [CentOS] Suggest Hardware Raid Controller Card

2011-07-11 Thread Colin Coles
On Monday 11 July 2011 16:12, Kaushal Shriyan wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 8:34 PM, Colin Coles  wrote:
> > On Monday 11 July 2011 15:49, Kaushal Shriyan wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I have HP DL 180 G6 2U Server loaded with CentOS 5.6. Can someone
> >> please suggest any good Hardware Raid Controller Card for the
> >> mentioned Hardware and OS. The reason being this server comes with
> >> Onboard Sata Controller chipset (HP Smart Array B110i Controller).
> >> This server has SATA Harddrive - 4 Nos of 500GB each and the OS
> >> doesnot detect it.
> >
> > Have you set up the array using the disk setup utility?
>
> Hi,
>
> Yes I have setup RAID 1+0 Array using HP Smart Controller B110i BIOS.
> It shows usable disk space of approx 940 GB but the OS does not see it
> instead it shows all the 4 * 500 GB HDD.
>

Try discarding the array and rebuilding, perhaps using a different RAID level, 
see if that makes any difference. I have vaguely similar machines and have 
not encountered this type of problem, and I'm pretty sure all this range are 
certified for RHEL.
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Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Server has no GUI

2011-07-11 Thread Emmanuel Noobadmin
On 7/11/11, Keith Beeby  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> So first daft question with Centos 6 (someone had to be first!) I've setup
> Centos 6 as a Server but as with Centos 5 it used to boot into the GUI but
> v6 doesn't do this, startx etc doesn't seem to work to launch the GUI

If I'm not mistaken, the "Server" option does not include the GUI so
you'll have to install the GUI group manually as others have
suggested.
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Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Server has no GUI

2011-07-11 Thread Keith Beeby
Hi,

Thanks everyone, yes server has no GUI by default, so should have added a 
install time, now working by adding later

Thanks

Keith


On 11 Jul 2011, at 16:33, Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote:

> On 7/11/11, Keith Beeby  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> So first daft question with Centos 6 (someone had to be first!) I've setup
>> Centos 6 as a Server but as with Centos 5 it used to boot into the GUI but
>> v6 doesn't do this, startx etc doesn't seem to work to launch the GUI
> 
> If I'm not mistaken, the "Server" option does not include the GUI so
> you'll have to install the GUI group manually as others have
> suggested.
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Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Server has no GUI

2011-07-11 Thread Scott Robbins
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:33:10PM +0800, Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote:
> On 7/11/11, Keith Beeby  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >


> > So first daft question with Centos 6 (someone had to be first!) I've setup
> > Centos 6 as a Server but as with Centos 5 it used to boot into the GUI but
> > v6 doesn't do this, startx etc doesn't seem to work to launch the GUI
> 
> If I'm not mistaken, the "Server" option does not include the GUI so
> you'll have to install the GUI group manually as others have
> suggested.

If I'm not mistaken, (not making fun of Emmanuel, just the same caveat),
neither server nor web server have a GUI by default.  IMLTHO (less than
humble) this is something they should have done a long time ago, (though
I would like to see either flux or openbox available as alternative--on
the other hand, that's purely personal preference, and can be safely
ignored--just, if I do, for whatever reason, want a GUI on a server, I'd
much prefer a *box (or other--twm is available actually, but I don't
like it), I'd like something light.


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Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Server has no GUI

2011-07-11 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Scott Robbins  wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:33:10PM +0800, Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote:
>> On 7/11/11, Keith Beeby  wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>
>
>> > So first daft question with Centos 6 (someone had to be first!) I've setup
>> > Centos 6 as a Server but as with Centos 5 it used to boot into the GUI but
>> > v6 doesn't do this, startx etc doesn't seem to work to launch the GUI
>>
>> If I'm not mistaken, the "Server" option does not include the GUI so
>> you'll have to install the GUI group manually as others have
>> suggested.
>
> If I'm not mistaken, (not making fun of Emmanuel, just the same caveat),
> neither server nor web server have a GUI by default.  IMLTHO (less than
> humble) this is something they should have done a long time ago, (though
> I would like to see either flux or openbox available as alternative--on
> the other hand, that's purely personal preference, and can be safely
> ignored--just, if I do, for whatever reason, want a GUI on a server, I'd
> much prefer a *box (or other--twm is available actually, but I don't
> like it), I'd like something light.
>
>
> --



I have to agree with Scott.

A "lightweight" server option is a
long-awaited-and-much-deserved-feature but it would be nice if we
could still get a very lightweight X - even if it doesn't run
automatically. I often need to use X for odd stuff which only works on
X - like using Firefox to check if a specific feature on a website,
hosted on the server works fine. Or like using gparted to get the
extra features which fdisk doesn't offer.

Just a thought...



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Re: [CentOS] Suggest Hardware Raid Controller Card

2011-07-11 Thread John R Pierce
On 07/11/11 7:49 AM, Kaushal Shriyan wrote:
> 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) SATA
> AHCI Controller (prog-if 01 [AHCI 1.0])

that is an Intel ICH10 SATA controller, which is purely JBOD hardware, 
it supports Intel's 'Matrix' fake-raid.

I highly recommend you use it in AHCI mode (thats a BIOS setting) and 
configure raid in linux with mdraid

If you want harwdare raid in a DL180G6, you should have gotten one of 
the optional 'real' raid controllers such as the P410i w 1gb flash 
writeback cache.

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Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Server has no GUI

2011-07-11 Thread Andy Holt
> -Original Message-
> From: Keith Beeby
> Sent: 11/07/2011 16:38
> To: CentOS mailing list
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Server has no GUI
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Thanks everyone, yes server has no GUI by default, so should 
> have added a install time, now working by adding later
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Keith

What caught me out (_doesn't_ sounds like it did you though), was that the 
CentOS 6 x86_64 installer chose to do a text-based
install, through lack of support for the graphics card, I guess (this is inside 
VMware Server 1.0!).  The text-based install does
not give you a choice of the kind of stuff to install, you just seem to get 
'minimal'.

I had much better luck after reading through the install guide (here:
http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Installation_Guide/index.html
 ).  Booted off the iso, hit 
and then at the boot prompt: linux vnc.  I could then use a VNC client to do 
the nice graphical install.

hth someone   Andy

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Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Server has no GUI

2011-07-11 Thread Tim Nelson
- Original Message -
> A "lightweight" server option is a
> long-awaited-and-much-deserved-feature but it would be nice if we
> could still get a very lightweight X - even if it doesn't run
> automatically. I often need to use X for odd stuff which only works on
> X - like using Firefox to check if a specific feature on a website,
> hosted on the server works fine. Or like using gparted to get the
> extra features which fdisk doesn't offer.

I agree. However, in those situations, I typically run these apps headless 
using X forwarding over SSH.

A quick howto if you've never done this before:

http://www.cs.caltech.edu/courses/cs11/misc/xwindows.html

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Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Server has no GUI

2011-07-11 Thread m . roth
Rudi Ahlers wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Scott Robbins  wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:33:10PM +0800, Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote:
>>> On 7/11/11, Keith Beeby  wrote:
>>
>>> > So first daft question with Centos 6 (someone had to be first!) I've
>>> > setup Centos 6 as a Server but as with Centos 5 it used to boot into
>>> > the GUI but
>>> > v6 doesn't do this, startx etc doesn't seem to work to launch the GUI
>>>
>>> If I'm not mistaken, the "Server" option does not include the GUI so
>>> you'll have to install the GUI group manually as others have
>>> suggested.

> automatically. I often need to use X for odd stuff which only works on
> X - like using Firefox to check if a specific feature on a website,
> hosted on the server works fine. Or like using gparted to get the
> extra features which fdisk doesn't offer.

I regularly run ssh -X server, and run firefox remotely.

  mark "http://localhost:631



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Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Server has no GUI

2011-07-11 Thread m . roth
Andy Holt wrote:
>> From: Keith Beeby
>>
>> Thanks everyone, yes server has no GUI by default, so should
>> have added a install time, now working by adding later
>>
> What caught me out (_doesn't_ sounds like it did you though), was that the
> CentOS 6 x86_64 installer chose to do a text-based
> install, through lack of support for the graphics card, I guess (this is
> inside VMware Server 1.0!).  The text-based install does
> not give you a choice of the kind of stuff to install, you just seem to
> get 'minimal'.

Huh? I always use the text-based install, and check the select packages
(or whatever it is) box, and the next screen's where I go down its list,
and go into each, and (un)select what I want on the machine.

  mark

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   1. Release for CentOS-6.0 i386 and x86_64 (Karanbir Singh)


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Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 19:51:21 +0100
From: Karanbir Singh 
Subject: [CentOS-announce] Release for CentOS-6.0 i386 and x86_64
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We are pleased to announce the immediate availability of CentOS-6.0 for 
i386 and x86_64 Architectures.

CentOS-6.0 is based on the upstream release EL 6.0 and includes packages 
from all variants. All upstream repositories have been combined into 
one, to make it easier for end users to work with.

There are some important changes to this release compared with the 
previous versions of CentOS and we highly recommend reading this 
announcement along with the Release Notes at 
http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS6.0

There are no CD images being released with CentOS-6, however we have 
some CD variants in the pipeline. Details for these are mentioned below.

Since upstream has a 6.1 version already released, we will be using a 
Continous Release repository for 6.0 to bring all 6.1 and post 6.1 
security updates to all 6.0 users, till such time as CentOS-6.1 is 
released itself. There will be more details about this posted within the 
next 48 hours.

+++
Upgrading from CentOS-4 or CentOS-5:

We recommend everyone run through a reinstall rather than attempt an 
inplace upgrade from CentOS-4 or CentOS-5

+++
LiveCD and LiveDVD

LiveCDs and LiveDVDs for i386 and x86_64 will be released within the 
next few days. These will bring in the ability to directly install from 
the livemedia.

+++
Minimal Install CD

We have also created a minimal install CD, that would bring up a base 
machine with just enough content to have a usable platform. This CD 
image will be released in the next few days.

+++
The LightWeightServer (LWS) CD

In order to bring back the CentOS-4 Server CD style single iso image, we 
are creating a LWS varient of the main distro. Details for this will be 
posted in the next few days with release happening after the live media 
and the minimal cd editions.

+++
Downloading CentOS-6.0 for new installs:

When possible, consider using torrents to run the downloads. In most 
cases you will find its also the fastest means to download the distro. 
There are currently over a thousand  people seeding CentOS-6 and it's 
possible to get upto 100mbps downloads via these torrents.

Torrent files for the DVD's are avilable at :
http://mirror.centos.org/centos/6.0/isos/i386/CentOS-6.0-i386-bin-DVD.torrent
http://mirror.centos.org/centos/6.0/isos/x86_64/CentOS-6.0-x86_64-bin-DVD.torrent

You can also use a mirror close to you :
http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=30

Most mirrors will allow direct DVD downloads over http, ftp and rsync.

Please keep in mind that not all mirrors are currently updated, some 
might take upto another 24 hours before they have all the content.

+++
sha1sum for the CentOS-6.0 ISOS:

i386:
fcf49e875cd4494f2af68cf257ab9e93523c9427  CentOS-6.0-i386-bin-DVD.iso
862815623d2e7990207dd78a281837c7eb719e83  CentOS-6.0-i386-netinstall.iso

x86_64:
9de87b0c696ebd72b952edb4cc06c24cbdc37d81  CentOS-6.0-x86_64-bin-DVD1.iso
5e3834621f11fbcca78cf7d70625c647045f45f5  CentOS-6.0-x86_64-bin-DVD2.iso
23f9e606cbcbd52d2e5df3716a85cdde336f7bfe  CentOS-6.0-x86_64-netinstall.iso

+++
Sources and Debuginfo packages:

SRPMS and debuginfo packages are still making their way to the CentOS 
mirrors and should be available within the next 24 to 48 hours. We are 
prioritising the centos modified packages.

+++
Getting Help:

The best place to start when looking for help with CentOS is at the wiki 
( http://wiki.centos.org/GettingHelp ) which lists various options and 
communities who might be able to help. If you think there is a bug in 
the system, do report it at http://bugs.centos.org/ - but keep in mind 
that the bugs system is *not* a support mechanism.

+++
Contributing and joining the project:

We are always looking for people to join and help with various things in 
the project. If you are keen to help out a good place to start is the 
wiki page at http://wiki.centos.org/Co

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Server has no GUI

2011-07-11 Thread Lars Hecking

> 
> Huh? I always use the text-based install, and check the select packages
> (or whatever it is) box, and the next screen's where I go down its list,
> and go into each, and (un)select what I want on the machine.
 
 Upstream release notes

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[CentOS] No Package Manager? (Where's YumEx)

2011-07-11 Thread Mark Weaver
Hi List,

This morning while setting up C6 on my laptop this morning I attempted 
to download and install Yumex, but the repos returned no results for 
this package. Has this been discontinued and if so, what package manager 
should I be looking for?

thanks,

Mark
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Re: [CentOS] Suggest Hardware Raid Controller Card

2011-07-11 Thread Drew
> A true hardware RAID controller would probably cost almost as much as
> the server itself.  Just about all of the cheap (so called) SATA RAID
> controller cards are some flavor of fakeraid.  A few are supported as DM
> Raid under Linux, but many are not.

Which is funny because Intel's SASUC8i (rebranded LSI3082E-R) is true
hardware RAID which I recently picked up *new* for $150. They don't do
RAID-5/6 or have a BBU but IMO you don't need a BBU for RAID-0/1/10.

Where can you pickup a new server for $150? :-P


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Re: [CentOS] Switch from SL -> Centos

2011-07-11 Thread James Hogarth
> Yes, I know, for that machine, it's just a desktop that has x-window, gnome
> and a console opened up all day. I don't mind it if it function strangly...
> In any event, I'll just wipe the whole thing...
>

Ah fair enough - just wanted to give a heads up (and point to the yum
reinstall option) in case anyone decided to do similar.
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Re: [CentOS] Suggest Hardware Raid Controller Card

2011-07-11 Thread John R Pierce
On 07/11/11 9:30 AM, Drew wrote:
> Which is funny because Intel's SASUC8i (rebranded LSI3082E-R) is true
> hardware RAID which I recently picked up*new*  for $150. They don't do
> RAID-5/6 or have a BBU but IMO you don't need a BBU for RAID-0/1/10.

you want BBU (or flash-backed cache) if you want write-back cache, and 
not mandate write-through. This is quite independent of the RAID type.  
It greatly speeds up 'committed' random writes such as are generated by 
a transactional database.



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Re: [CentOS] No Package Manager? (Where's YumEx)

2011-07-11 Thread Samuel Torralba
YumEx is in the EPEL repository

On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 12:27 AM, Mark Weaver
wrote:

> Hi List,
>
> This morning while setting up C6 on my laptop this morning I attempted
> to download and install Yumex, but the repos returned no results for
> this package. Has this been discontinued and if so, what package manager
> should I be looking for?
>
> thanks,
>
> Mark
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Re: [CentOS] No Package Manager? (Where's YumEx)

2011-07-11 Thread Mark Weaver
Ah... Ok. Thank you

From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of 
Samuel Torralba
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 12:37 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] No Package Manager? (Where's YumEx)

YumEx is in the EPEL repository
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 12:27 AM, Mark Weaver 
mailto:mwea...@compinfosystems.com>> wrote:
Hi List,

This morning while setting up C6 on my laptop this morning I attempted
to download and install Yumex, but the repos returned no results for
this package. Has this been discontinued and if so, what package manager
should I be looking for?

thanks,

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Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Server has no GUI

2011-07-11 Thread Scott Robbins
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:55:12AM -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> Andy Holt wrote:
> >> From: Keith Beeby
> >>
> > What caught me out (_doesn't_ sounds like it did you though), was that the
> > CentOS 6 x86_64 installer chose to do a text-based
> > install, through lack of support for the graphics card, I guess (this is
> > inside VMware Server 1.0!).  The text-based install does
> > not give you a choice of the kind of stuff to install, you just seem to
> > get 'minimal'.
> 
> Huh? I always use the text-based install, and check the select packages
> (or whatever it is) box, and the next screen's where I go down its list,
> and go into each, and (un)select what I want on the machine.

Have you done this with CentOS/RH/OLE 6?  They've crippled it.  In a
marketing move that, again in my arrogant opinion, ranks up there with
Windows Genuine Advantage, they'll tell you that they've streamlined and
simplified it.   

I think the rationale was that they decided to put their efforts into a
GUI install and it was too much work to continue the functionality of
the text mode.  You'd have to dig through the Fedora testing list, I
think.  

However, kickstart functionality remains, so you can always use a
kickstart file, and that will enable you to do partitioning, and package
selection.

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Re: [CentOS] No Package Manager? (Where's YumEx)

2011-07-11 Thread John R Pierce
On 07/11/11 9:36 AM, Samuel Torralba wrote:
> YumEx is in the EPEL repository

surely there is a gui package manager in the default rhel/centos 6 kit 
?   (I hardly ever use gui so I wouldn't know)


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[CentOS] It was worth the wait!

2011-07-11 Thread Mark Weaver
WOW!!!

I'm actually stunned. I was expecting some changes, but this is wonderful and 
EVERYTHING worked correctly right out of the box.

Having a few small issues with my touchpad on this Dell Inspiron - can't get it 
to scroll - but everything else is exquisite! Thank you SO much for all your 
hard work CentOS team.



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Re: [CentOS] Suggest Hardware Raid Controller Card

2011-07-11 Thread Drew
>> Which is funny because Intel's SASUC8i (rebranded LSI3082E-R) is true
>> hardware RAID which I recently picked up*new*  for $150. They don't do
>> RAID-5/6 or have a BBU but IMO you don't need a BBU for RAID-0/1/10.
>
> you want BBU (or flash-backed cache) if you want write-back cache, and
> not mandate write-through. This is quite independent of the RAID type.
> It greatly speeds up 'committed' random writes such as are generated by
> a transactional database.

I stand corrected in that area. Tho, even upgrading to a LSI MegaRAID
9260 w/ BBU only brings you into the $1000 price range so unless
you're buying $1000 pizza boxes from Supermicro (not knocking the
brand, I use their kit at home ) that's still not even close to the
price of a decently spec'd IBM or HP server. Of course our spec comes
in around $6k per box. ;-)



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Re: [CentOS] No Package Manager? (Where's YumEx)

2011-07-11 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, July 11, 2011 12:50:10 PM John R Pierce wrote:
> On 07/11/11 9:36 AM, Samuel Torralba wrote:
> > YumEx is in the EPEL repository
> 
> surely there is a gui package manager in the default rhel/centos 6 kit 
> ?   (I hardly ever use gui so I wouldn't know)

PackageKit.

In GNOME, it's System->Administration->Add/Remove Software

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Re: [CentOS] Suggest Hardware Raid Controller Card

2011-07-11 Thread John R Pierce
On 07/11/11 9:53 AM, Drew wrote:
> I stand corrected in that area. Tho, even upgrading to a LSI MegaRAID
> 9260 w/ BBU only brings you into the $1000 price range so unless
> you're buying $1000 pizza boxes from Supermicro (not knocking the
> brand, I use their kit at home ) that's still not even close to the
> price of a decently spec'd IBM or HP server. Of course our spec comes
> in around $6k per box. ;-)

I recently got some quotes on some HP DL servers, the HP p410 w/ 1GB 
flash-backed cache (no batteries to replace ever) PN 572532-B21 was MSRP 
$750 before any corporate discounts.   this is a 8 channel 6gbps SAS 
controller (2 internal 4-channel connectors)

my configuration also came to about $6K/box but that was a mighty 
powerful box (25 2.5" SAS bays, 12 core 2.8Ghz 48GB ram, and said raid 
controller)

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Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Server has no GUI

2011-07-11 Thread m . roth
Scott Robbins wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:55:12AM -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>> Andy Holt wrote:
>> >> From: Keith Beeby
>> >>
>> > What caught me out (_doesn't_ sounds like it did you though), was that
>> > the CentOS 6 x86_64 installer chose to do a text-based
>> > install, through lack of support for the graphics card, I guess (this
>> > is inside VMware Server 1.0!).  The text-based install does
>> > not give you a choice of the kind of stuff to install, you just seem
>> > to get 'minimal'.
>> 
>> Huh? I always use the text-based install, and check the select packages
>> (or whatever it is) box, and the next screen's where I go down its list,
>> and go into each, and (un)select what I want on the machine.
>
> Have you done this with CentOS/RH/OLE 6?  They've crippled it.  In a

When would I have tried it? I saw posts about mirrors being sync'd before
I left work Friday. I'm certainly not upgrading my home system for a
while

> marketing move that, again in my arrogant opinion, ranks up there with
> Windows Genuine Advantage, they'll tell you that they've streamlined and
> simplified it.

You're joking
>
> I think the rationale was that they decided to put their efforts into a
> GUI install and it was too much work to continue the functionality of
> the text mode.  You'd have to dig through the Fedora testing list, I
> think.

And GUI is less work? And they couldn't leave the same code in place?
>
> However, kickstart functionality remains, so you can always use a
> kickstart file, and that will enable you to do partitioning, and package
> selection.

And to build a test system, as I'm about to do?

Wonderful.

   mark

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Re: [CentOS] how to enable Flow Control on CentOS?

2011-07-11 Thread Lamar Owen
On Sunday, July 10, 2011 07:05:16 AM Giles Coochey wrote:
> I guess what I was trying to say is that for fiber connections duplex 
> has no meaning, was there ever a fiber 'hub' where multiple point to 
> point connections 'shared' a medium? (in a virtual sense)

You can make/get passive fiber hubs that act like old thinnet.  They aren't 
common, and I don't recall if any GigE ones exist.

You can actually make these if you have a fusion splicer with enough manual 
controllability.

So, yes, you can have a true CSMA/CD fiber hub, where the hub is a totally 
passive fiber device.
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Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Server has no GUI

2011-07-11 Thread Michael Best
On 07/11/2011 11:13 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>> Have you done this with CentOS/RH/OLE 6?  They've crippled it.  In a
>
> When would I have tried it? I saw posts about mirrors being sync'd before
> I left work Friday. I'm certainly not upgrading my home system for a
> while

RHEL6 has a trial program.
http://www.redhat.com/wapps/eval/index.html?evaluation_id=1008

I think you can download Oracle Linux 6 as well.

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Re: [CentOS] how to enable Flow Control on CentOS?

2011-07-11 Thread John R Pierce
On 07/11/11 10:17 AM, Lamar Owen wrote:
> On Sunday, July 10, 2011 07:05:16 AM Giles Coochey wrote:
>> I guess what I was trying to say is that for fiber connections duplex
>> has no meaning, was there ever a fiber 'hub' where multiple point to
>> point connections 'shared' a medium? (in a virtual sense)
> You can make/get passive fiber hubs that act like old thinnet.  They aren't 
> common, and I don't recall if any GigE ones exist.
>
> You can actually make these if you have a fusion splicer with enough manual 
> controllability.
>
> So, yes, you can have a true CSMA/CD fiber hub, where the hub is a totally 
> passive fiber device.

it was my understanding that 'hubs' were only supported on 10baseT and 
100baseT ethernets, and of course, have to be half duplex, and all 
devices have to be the same speed.   the so-called dual speed 10/100 
hubs were really a 10baseT hub and a 100baseT hub with a switch between 
them (and were really really awful).GigE mandates switching and full 
duplex.   Anyone using fiber for 10 or 100baseF is stuck in the last 
century.

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[CentOS] centos 6 boot and install on hp dl380 G4

2011-07-11 Thread Florian
Hello List,

i downloaded centos6 x86_64. With DVD-iso1 i made a booteable usb-stick
(universal usb installer 1.8.5.7).
When i boot my HP ProLiant DL380 G4 from the stick, the CentOS boot
screen comes up and and the message
"Automatic boot in xx seconds..." appears.
* When i do not hit any key, the seconds are counted to zero an then it
starts again at 10 seconds - again and again.
* When hitting return, a boot menu appears:
 1) Boot
 2) Boot (text mode)
 3) Network Installation
 4) Memory-Test
 5) Boot from local drive
Only Options "Memory-Test" and "Boot from local drive" work.
When choosing Option 1,2,3 i'm always pushed back to the menu.

How to install CentOS vom the stick? Please help me to find my  mistake.
Please tell me, if i can provide any information.

Bye,
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Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Server has no GUI

2011-07-11 Thread m . roth
Michael Best wrote:
> On 07/11/2011 11:13 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>>> Have you done this with CentOS/RH/OLE 6?  They've crippled it.  In a
>>
>> When would I have tried it? I saw posts about mirrors being sync'd
>> before I left work Friday. I'm certainly not upgrading my home system
for a
>> while
>
> RHEL6 has a trial program.
> http://www.redhat.com/wapps/eval/index.html?evaluation_id=1008
>
> I think you can download Oracle Linux 6 as well.

I'm afraid you missed the point I was making: I run CentOS at home, and
I'm not upgrading my own personal machine to 6 (it'll be 6.1), and that
will be semi-nervous-making, though not that bad, since I have separate
LVM partitions for things... and I hadn't done any of it here at work.

Actually, I'll be doing that this afternoon, and see how it goes.

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Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Server has no GUI

2011-07-11 Thread Scott Robbins
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 01:13:54PM -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> Scott Robbins wrote:


> > Have you done this with CentOS/RH/OLE 6?  They've crippled it.  In a
> 
> When would I have tried it? I saw posts about mirrors being sync'd before
> I left work Friday. I'm certainly not upgrading my home system for a
> while

Well... one of the various free clones, or maybe a beta?


> 
> > marketing move that, again in my arrogant opinion, ranks up there with
> > Windows Genuine Advantage, they'll tell you that they've streamlined and
> > simplified it.
> 
> You're joking

If you mean in trying to be amusing, yes.If you mean I am making it
up for shock value, no--they really did say simplified and streamlined.  

> >
> > I think the rationale was that they decided to put their efforts into a
> > GUI install and it was too much work to continue the functionality of
> > the text mode.  You'd have to dig through the Fedora testing list, I
> > think.
> 
> And GUI is less work? And they couldn't leave the same code in place?

No, but GUIs are important.  Don't you read distrowatch, and note how,
if a sytem doesn't have a GUI installer, the reviewer faults it?  
(Yes, I am being a bit sarcastic, but the words are true. )

> >
> > However, kickstart functionality remains, so you can always use a
> > kickstart file, and that will enable you to do partitioning, and package
> > selection.
> 
> And to build a test system, as I'm about to do?
> 
> Wonderful.

My own impression, and it is nothing more than that, is that Fedora
being a testbed/devel platform, or whatever for RH has made it, in
certain ways, worry more about the desktop user---on the other hand, RH
with its reliance on GUIs, has also made me sometimes think it's more
for those who dislike Windows than those who like Unix, and the server,
et al, GUI-less installs were a pleasant surprise.  On the other hand, I
also wondered, cynic that I am, whether it was in part, influenced by
Ubuntu server, (which is also  sans GUI). 

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Re: [CentOS] Restore the moved directory

2011-07-11 Thread Keith Roberts
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:

> To: CentOS mailing list 
> From: Ljubomir Ljubojevic 
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Restore the moved directory
> 
> Robert Heller wrote:
>> At Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:24:01 +0300 CentOS mailing list  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> By mistake, I moved the directory /etc to the /home. How  can i restore the
>>> sytem back (or, at least that directory back)?
>>
>> Boot with a rescue disk, mount your (broken) system under /sysimage and
>> then do:
>>
>> mv /sysimage/home/etc /sysimage/
> +1

Or even boot Parted Magic from the UBCD disk here:

http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/

New features in UBCD V5.0 include:

* New! The Linux-based distro Parted Magic is now 
included with UBCD V5.0. This should be the method of choice 
when you need to resize/rescue partitions, access NTFS 
filesystems or work with USB storage devices.

* New! UBCD V5.0 now supports both syslinux/isolinux and 
grub4dos. This helps improve the chances that UBCD will boot 
on any particular machine.

When you boot up from the CD, a text-based menu will be 
displayed, and you will be able to select the tool you want 
to run. The selected tool actually boots off a virtual 
floppy disk created in memory.

That will give you a full Linux desktop rescue system 
with nice GUI for mounting partitions, and also Midnight 
Commander for doing the stuff you want to.

Well worth the effort to download and burn to CD. It has 
100+ utilities for sysadmin and system setup/repair jobs.

HTH

Kind Regards,

Keith Roberts

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Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Server has no GUI

2011-07-11 Thread Keith Roberts
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Scott Robbins wrote:

> To: CentOS mailing list 
> From: Scott Robbins 
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Server has no GUI
> 
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:33:10PM +0800, Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote:
>> On 7/11/11, Keith Beeby  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>
>
>>> So first daft question with Centos 6 (someone had to be first!) I've setup
>>> Centos 6 as a Server but as with Centos 5 it used to boot into the GUI but
>>> v6 doesn't do this, startx etc doesn't seem to work to launch the GUI
>>
>> If I'm not mistaken, the "Server" option does not include the GUI so
>> you'll have to install the GUI group manually as others have
>> suggested.
>
> If I'm not mistaken, (not making fun of Emmanuel, just the same caveat),
> neither server nor web server have a GUI by default.  IMLTHO (less than
> humble) this is something they should have done a long time ago, (though
> I would like to see either flux or openbox available as alternative--on
> the other hand, that's purely personal preference, and can be safely
> ignored--just, if I do, for whatever reason, want a GUI on a server, I'd
> much prefer a *box (or other--twm is available actually, but I don't
> like it), I'd like something light.

On Centos 5.6 I'm running xfce4, which is reasonable.

[root]# yum groupinfo "*" > Centos6-groups.txt

should give you a listing of all Centos6 groups in a text 
file for refering to later.

HTH

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Re: [CentOS] No Package Manager? (Where's YumEx)

2011-07-11 Thread Keith Roberts
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Mark Weaver wrote:

> To: CentOS mailing list 
> From: Mark Weaver 
> Subject: [CentOS] No Package Manager? (Where's YumEx)
> 
> Hi List,
>
> This morning while setting up C6 on my laptop this morning I attempted
> to download and install Yumex, but the repos returned no results for
> this package. Has this been discontinued and if so, what package manager
> should I be looking for?
>
> thanks,
>
> Mark

I'd go for Smart Package Manager if it's available on Centos 
6?

yum info smart*

HTH

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[CentOS] curlftpfs

2011-07-11 Thread James B. Byrne
CentOS-5.6
fuse-2.7.4-8.el5
fuse-curlftpfs-0.9.1-1.el5.rf

I am trying to mount an ftp connection as a local file system using
fuse and curlftpfs.  I can connect to the remote system (an HP3000
running MPEiX 7.5) and the directory seems to mount but I cannot use
it.  What I get is an Input/output error:

$ curlftpfs -v  hahp3k01.harte-lyne.ca tmp/hp3000
* About to connect() to hahp3k01.harte-lyne.ca port 21
*   Trying 192.168.1.102... * connected
* Connected to hahp3k01.harte-lyne.ca (192.168.1.102) port 21
< 220 HP ARPA FTP Server [A0012H15] (C) Hewlett-Packard Co. 2000
[PASV SUPPORT]
> USER FTPUSER.HARTLYNE
< 331 Password required for FTPUSER.HARTLYNE.  Syntax:
userpass,acctpass
> PASS xx
< 230 User logged on
> PWD
< 257 "/HARTLYNE/CADEXJOB" is the current directory.
* Entry path is '/HARTLYNE/CADEXJOB'
* Connection #0 to host hahp3k01.harte-lyne.ca left intact
$
$ ll tmp/hp3000
ls: reading directory tmp/hp3000: Input/output error
total 0

Is this a problem with fusermount, curlftpfs the ftp server on the
Hp3000 or something else?

Suggestions as to what is wrong and how I can get this to work are
most welcome.


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Re: [CentOS] how to enable Flow Control on CentOS?

2011-07-11 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, July 11, 2011 01:47:09 PM John R Pierce wrote:
> it was my understanding that 'hubs' were only supported on 10baseT and 
> 100baseT ethernets, 

>  GigE mandates switching and full 
> duplex.   Anyone using fiber for 10 or 100baseF is stuck in the last 
> century.

Or stuck with >550m multimode fiber links (we have a few of those; longest is 
over 1km, and only multimode ran to that location).

The 10Mb/s standard is (heading from IEEE 802.3-2008):
16. Fiber optic passive star and medium attachment unit, type 10BASE-FP

802.3-2008 clause 41 provides for a half-duplex 1000Mb/s repeater, but it is 
noted that no maintenance changes are being accepted since May 2007 for that 
clause.

And then, of course, there are EPON and GPON, but that's passive full duplex 
using WDM technologies with the passive splitters and combiners (typical fiber 
to the premises gear).  GBIC's and SFP's are available for media converters and 
switches; if a GigE NIC has an SFP slot it might be possible to support those 
technologies at the workstation or server.

No, switching isn't mandated; while the 802.3 standard is pretty dense, it is 
now freely available from IEEE for anyone to download and look at.
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[CentOS] Updates... What? already?

2011-07-11 Thread Mark Weaver
Just had a good laugh. I'm sitting here at my desk working with my
laptop sitting off to the side; I've just loaded C6 this morning and as
I understand it C6 _just_ finished syncing on the mirrors over the
weekend. I look up from an email I'm composing to see the updates alert
being displayed. I won't repeat what first entered my head, but I
couldn't help but laugh and think, "How the hell can there be updates
already for an OS that just got released?"

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Re: [CentOS] Updates... What? already?

2011-07-11 Thread Alain Péan
Le 11/07/2011 21:50, Mark Weaver a écrit :
> Just had a good laugh. I'm sitting here at my desk working with my
> laptop sitting off to the side; I've just loaded C6 this morning and as
> I understand it C6 _just_ finished syncing on the mirrors over the
> weekend. I look up from an email I'm composing to see the updates alert
> being displayed. I won't repeat what first entered my head, but I
> couldn't help but laugh and think, "How the hell can there be updates
> already for an OS that just got released?"
>

Because 6.0 is in fact 8 months old (from RHEL 6.0 release). I don't 
think CenrOS team included the updates in the isos they released... And 
with rolling updates, you should find also updates backported from 6.1...

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Re: [CentOS] how to enable Flow Control on CentOS?

2011-07-11 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday, July 08, 2011 07:06:06 PM Les Mikesell wrote:
>And the 
> gigabit spec requires auto-negotiation.

According to clause 37.1.4.4 "User Configuration with Auto-Negotiation" of IEEE 
802.3-2008, auto-negotiation with 1000Base-X is optional, but encouraged.

In contrast, for 1000Base-T, we find the following information in clause 40.5.1:
"40.5.1 Support for Auto-Negotiation
All 1000BASE-T PHYs shall provide support for Auto-Negotiation (Clause 28) and 
shall be capable of operating as MASTER or SLAVE."

'Shall' being legal language for 'absolutely without a doubt must' in this 
case.  Overwise the PHY wouldn't be able to determine which PHY is the clock 
MASTER.

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Re: [CentOS] question about release prm for 6

2011-07-11 Thread Keith Roberts
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Alexander Dalloz wrote:

> To: CentOS mailing list 
> From: Alexander Dalloz 
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] question about release prm for 6
> 
> Am 10.07.2011 23:40, schrieb Keith Roberts:
>> On Sun, 10 Jul 2011, Mike Cutie and Maia wrote:
>
>> Is there a Live CD for Centos 6 yet please?
>>
>> Keith
>
> Did you read the release announcement? Probably not.

Affirmative - ie yes to PN!

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[CentOS] CentOS 6 and pxeboot

2011-07-11 Thread m . roth
Well, I started the install, got pxeboot to get to the kickstart file,
formatted the drive... and then it failed, telling me "unable to read
group information from repositories. This is a problem with the generation
of your install tree."

A quick google gives me the first hit from a year ago, bug 4372
, which says there's a metadata
problem. Has anyone else run into this today?

   mark

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 and pxeboot

2011-07-11 Thread Scot P. Floess

Not sure this is related...  I just Cobbler-ified and Puppet-ized for 
CentOS 6...  One thing I had in Cobbler was that I pointed to addons - 
which doesn't look like it exists in 6.  I looked in 5.6 and noted nothing 
there...so I dropped addons as a repo in 6.

All my VMs are installing correctly now for what its worth...

On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

> Well, I started the install, got pxeboot to get to the kickstart file,
> formatted the drive... and then it failed, telling me "unable to read
> group information from repositories. This is a problem with the generation
> of your install tree."
>
> A quick google gives me the first hit from a year ago, bug 4372
> , which says there's a metadata
> problem. Has anyone else run into this today?
>
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[CentOS] Installing from CD

2011-07-11 Thread david
Folks

The machine I'm trying to load does not have a DVD reader, but only a 
CD reader.

Are the multiple CD images of CENTOS 6 available somewhere?  Earlier 
versions had them.

Thanks

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[CentOS] problems with burning i386 centos 6 dvd

2011-07-11 Thread Gary Gatling

Hey guys,

Thanks a lot for the CentOS 6 distro. I am having trouble burning the i386 
dvds. I tried on a RHEL 6 deskop and also a CentOS 5 laptop. The command I 
am running on both systems is this:

growisofs -dvd-compat -speed=4 -Z 
/dev/sr0=/home/gsgatlin/CentOS-6.0-i386-bin-DVD/CentOS-6.0-i386-bin-DVD.iso

The error I am seeing is:

:-( /dev/sr0: 2295104 blocks are free, 2297586 to be written!

(Yes it puts a sad face on the command line)

The DVD says DVD +R on it if that matters.

I was able to burn the 64 bit dvd's ok with similar commands. (both #1 
and #2)

Any idea what I am doing wrong?

Thanks for any ideas.

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Re: [CentOS] problems with burning i386 centos 6 dvd

2011-07-11 Thread Peter Hinse
Am 11.07.2011 22:47, schrieb Gary Gatling:

> Thanks a lot for the CentOS 6 distro. I am having trouble burning the i386
> dvds. I tried on a RHEL 6 deskop and also a CentOS 5 laptop. The command I
> am running on both systems is this:
>
> growisofs -dvd-compat -speed=4 -Z
> /dev/sr0=/home/gsgatlin/CentOS-6.0-i386-bin-DVD/CentOS-6.0-i386-bin-DVD.iso
>
> The error I am seeing is:
>
> :-( /dev/sr0: 2295104 blocks are free, 2297586 to be written!
>
> (Yes it puts a sad face on the command line)
>
> The DVD says DVD +R on it if that matters.
>
> I was able to burn the 64 bit dvd's ok with similar commands. (both #1
> and #2)
>
> Any idea what I am doing wrong?

See the Release Notes:
http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS6.0

"The i386 DVD is just a bit too large to fit on normal single layer 
DVD+R media. It can be burnt succesfully on DVD-R."

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Re: [CentOS] problems with burning i386 centos 6 dvd

2011-07-11 Thread Thomas Johansson
On 2011-07-11 22:47, Gary Gatling wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
>
> Thanks a lot for the CentOS 6 distro. I am having trouble burning the i386
> dvds. I tried on a RHEL 6 deskop and also a CentOS 5 laptop. The command I
> am running on both systems is this:
>
> growisofs -dvd-compat -speed=4 -Z
> /dev/sr0=/home/gsgatlin/CentOS-6.0-i386-bin-DVD/CentOS-6.0-i386-bin-DVD.iso
>
> The error I am seeing is:
>
> :-( /dev/sr0: 2295104 blocks are free, 2297586 to be written!
>
> (Yes it puts a sad face on the command line)
>
> The DVD says DVD +R on it if that matters.
>
> I was able to burn the 64 bit dvd's ok with similar commands. (both #1
> and #2)
>
> Any idea what I am doing wrong?
>
> Thanks for any ideas.
>
> Gary Gatling  | ITECS Systems


There was a note in the release notes that it would fit on a DVD-R, but not a 
DVD+R. 
http://wiki.centos.org/Man​uals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS6.​0#head-710e17fe8ed8c98a1fe​4faee4e11e2135df09fff


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Re: [CentOS] problems with burning i386 centos 6 dvd

2011-07-11 Thread Gary Gatling

Ah. Cool. Thanks a lot. That makes sense. I'll have to buy some of those 
DVD-R's tonight. :)

Gary Gatling  | ITECS Systems

On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Peter Hinse wrote:

> Am 11.07.2011 22:47, schrieb Gary Gatling:
>
>> Thanks a lot for the CentOS 6 distro. I am having trouble burning the i386
>> dvds. I tried on a RHEL 6 deskop and also a CentOS 5 laptop. The command I
>> am running on both systems is this:
>>
>> growisofs -dvd-compat -speed=4 -Z
>> /dev/sr0=/home/gsgatlin/CentOS-6.0-i386-bin-DVD/CentOS-6.0-i386-bin-DVD.iso
>>
>> The error I am seeing is:
>>
>> :-( /dev/sr0: 2295104 blocks are free, 2297586 to be written!
>>
>> (Yes it puts a sad face on the command line)
>>
>> The DVD says DVD +R on it if that matters.
>>
>> I was able to burn the 64 bit dvd's ok with similar commands. (both #1
>> and #2)
>>
>> Any idea what I am doing wrong?
>
> See the Release Notes:
> http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS6.0
>
> "The i386 DVD is just a bit too large to fit on normal single layer
> DVD+R media. It can be burnt succesfully on DVD-R."
>
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Re: [CentOS] problems with burning i386 centos 6 dvd

2011-07-11 Thread Earl
On Monday, July 11, 2011 04:17:18 PM Gary Gatling wrote:
> Hey guys,
> 
> Thanks a lot for the CentOS 6 distro. I am having trouble burning the i386
> dvds. I tried on a RHEL 6 deskop and also a CentOS 5 laptop. The command I
> am running on both systems is this:
> 
> growisofs -dvd-compat -speed=4 -Z
> /dev/sr0=/home/gsgatlin/CentOS-6.0-i386-bin-DVD/CentOS-6.0-i386-bin-DVD.iso
> 
> The error I am seeing is:
> :-( /dev/sr0: 2295104 blocks are free, 2297586 to be written!
> 
> (Yes it puts a sad face on the command line)
> 
> The DVD says DVD +R on it if that matters.
> 
> I was able to burn the 64 bit dvd's ok with similar commands. (both #1
> and #2)
> 
> Any idea what I am doing wrong?
> 
> Thanks for any ideas.
> 
> Gary Gatling  | ITECS Systems
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Hi Gary,

>From the release notes for CentOS 6.0:

The i386 DVD is just a bit too large to fit on normal single layer DVD+R 
media. It can be burnt succesfully on DVD-R. 

So if you have a DVD-R around.. try it!

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 and pxeboot

2011-07-11 Thread Phil Gardner
FWIW, I have this problem with 5.6.

Are you installing from a local repo? If you are, try rsyncing the repo 
again. See if it changes the repodata files at all.

I have yet to find why my repodata files are changing for the main repo 
(I didn't build our original repo servers, there are a bunch of random 
scripts that run that were created by a previous admin), but re-syncing 
the repos seems to stop that error from popping up during a kickstart.

On 07/11/2011 04:32 PM, Scot P. Floess wrote:
> Not sure this is related...  I just Cobbler-ified and Puppet-ized for
> CentOS 6...  One thing I had in Cobbler was that I pointed to addons -
> which doesn't look like it exists in 6.  I looked in 5.6 and noted nothing
> there...so I dropped addons as a repo in 6.
>
> All my VMs are installing correctly now for what its worth...
>
> On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>
>> Well, I started the install, got pxeboot to get to the kickstart file,
>> formatted the drive... and then it failed, telling me "unable to read
>> group information from repositories. This is a problem with the generation
>> of your install tree."
>>
>> A quick google gives me the first hit from a year ago, bug 4372
>> , which says there's a metadata
>> problem. Has anyone else run into this today?
>>
>>mark
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[CentOS] Hard disk installation

2011-07-11 Thread Timothy Murphy
Has anyone installed CentOS-6 from the hard disk?
I just tried this without success.

I should say that I asked the question before about CentOS-5.6,
and while I got many suggestions in reply,
no-one actually said that they _had_ installed CentOS this way.

What I did was to "mount -o loop" the DVD iso (which I checksum-ed)
and copy isolinux/vmlinuz and isolinux/initrd.img ,
as well as the images/ directory, to /boot ,
and then added a simple stanza

title CentOS-6
root (hd0,1)
kernel /vmlinuz text askmethod
initrd /initrd.img


The machine - I should have said that
it is an HP MicroServer -
boots fine, until it gets to
"Waiting for hardware to initialize",
at which point the screen goes blank
and nothing appears to happen.

I should say that the machine is running under CentOS-5.6,
which I installed with a USB stick.
I'm trying to install CentOS-6 on another partition.
I shall try the USB stick method shortly.

But I would be interested to know if anyone has actually installed
CentOS-6 from the hard disk, and if so how.

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Re: [CentOS] Switch from SL -> Centos

2011-07-11 Thread Beartooth
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:31:36 +0100, James Hogarth wrote:
[]
> Ah fair enough - just wanted to give a heads up (and point to the yum
> reinstall option) in case anyone decided to do similar.

Yo! I want to do exactly that -- shift a machine running SL 
(whose list is not on Gmane, oddly) to CentOS, if possible without losing 
my tweaks nor my data. 

But I'm confused. Your advice : 

 I would strongly suggest something akin to yum reinstall \* and leave it 
to chug away (backups first naturally) for a while to refresh all the 
packages and teh rpm database to be in sync with the centos build. 
requires matching, same build options for sure etc etc

is Geek to me.what is "\*"? What rpm database? The one on my machine? 
What's in the repos? Or ? What are build options? (I don't do things 
like make and install, because I'm not competent to recover from bloopers 
-- and I have a sneakin' hunch build is among those things.) What does 
etc., etc. include?

Might there be a web site somewhere with a pons asinorum for the 
subtechnoid?

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