Re: [CentOS] Door not hitting me on my way out

2011-04-02 Thread Dag Wieers
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011, John R Pierce wrote:

> On 04/01/11 6:54 PM, Digimer wrote:
>
>> I would not fault someone for "moving on", but I would when said person
>> does so in a manner that only leads to unhelpful drama.
>
> yeah, seriously.  call the WHAHmbulance.

I don't see how this is helpful either. But that's the problem, there's 
no way anyone can help the releases moving forward... Good luck waiting :)

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Re: [CentOS] Cent OS clustering and Support.

2011-04-02 Thread RedShift
On 04/01/11 11:56, Kumar, Ranjan wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We are a Channel product team within LSI and we are trying to add Cent OS 5.5 
> to our compatibility Matrix. We found out that LSI currently has a 
> relationship with CentOS for another project on the Internal Storage division 
> but not with the OS Certification team. We require some information on CentOS 
> which will help us plan the deliverables. And considering the timelines we 
> need to deliver at it will be great if someone from CentOS can help us out in 
> this regard. If anybody else also can answer these in the mailing list, we 
> would be grateful. The questions that we have are as follows:-
>
> 1)Cluster Support :
>
> ·Does CentOS 5.5 provides native cluster support ?
>
> ·Is there any cluster suite available for CentOS 5.5 ?
>
> ·Can we use the cluster suite in CentOS 4 for 5.5.
>
> 2)Does CentOS have any self Certification tool which allows OEMs/Vendors to 
> qualify the OS and post it in their compatibility matrix?
>
> One we start our qualification, we might need some help in resolving 
> issues/defects on CentOS. Can we open a channel or Point of contact who will 
> be able to help us out with such issues.
>
> I would also request to forward this email to the right forum if the mailing 
> list we are sending to is not the appropriate one.
>
> Thanks and Regards.
>
> Kumar Ranjan
>
> LSI Technologies.
>
>

Though I'm hijacking your thread and probably crossing some boundaries, 
however, since LSI is actively trying to enhance their products by testing 
compatibility with Linux distributions, I find this warranted:

Can we look forward to something better than "megacli" for administering LSI 
based RAID controllers? I, and many others, have to work with LSI equipment 
daily and they are cumbersome to manage with the only viable tool, megacli. 
This tool is a very poorly documented - well let's be honest - undocumented 
piece of software. Yes, there is MSM (MegaRAID Storage Manager) but that's on 
the opposite end: it's large, uses java, and can't be run on headless servers. 
Another main problem with the megacli tool is the erratic way you have to 
specify command-line arguments and it doesn't always match what's in the help.  
Plus some examples wouldn't hurt.

So, although LSI RAID controllers may be compatible with Linux in the sense 
that "they work", by being able to access the configured RAID arrays, being 
able to administer them in a better way might make a more convicing argument 
for compatibility with Linux and eventually make the decision process of 
choosing LSI products easier.


Thanks for listening,


Glenn
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Re: [CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5

2011-04-02 Thread Timothy Murphy
Mark Pryor wrote:

>> > I'm trying to install CentOS-5.5 on my new HP
>> micro-server,
>> > which has no CD drive.

> If all you want to do is kick-off an install via USB stick, you want
> 
> http://mirrors.kernel.org/centos/5.5/os/x86_64/images/diskboot.img
> 
> and use syslinux/memdisk to boot it on a vfat partition
> 
> - syslinux.cfg 
> label c564
> kernel memdisk
> append initrd=/diskboot.img
> - snip 
> 
> you can dd the whole IMG to your stick, but its cleaner to collect such
> images and reference them in syslinux.cfg.
> 
> To setup your stick to bootZZ
> #syslinux -s /dev/sda   (unmounted USB disk)

Thanks for the suggestion.

But would that be simpler than transferring netinstall.iso to a USB stick?
(I've always found the syslinux documentation bizarre,
with its frequent references to floppies.)





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[CentOS] Run from usb

2011-04-02 Thread mattias
Are it possible?
With full root access?
And gnome etc


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Re: [CentOS] Run from usb

2011-04-02 Thread Michel van Deventer
You could try to be more specific ??

What do you want to run from USB ? And from what device ? 

On Sat, 2011-04-02 at 13:49 +0200, mattias wrote:
> Are it possible?
> With full root access?
> And gnome etc
> 
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Re: [CentOS] Run from usb

2011-04-02 Thread mattias
I will run centos from usb like you can with e.g ubuntu
A usb pendrive
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You could try to be more specific ??

What do you want to run from USB ? And from what device ? 

On Sat, 2011-04-02 at 13:49 +0200, mattias wrote:
> Are it possible?
> With full root access?
> And gnome etc
> 
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Re: [CentOS] Run from usb

2011-04-02 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Mattias wrote on Sat, 2 Apr 2011 14:19:17 +0200:

> I will run centos from usb like you can with e.g ubuntu
> A usb pendrive

And what is the problem? This information is all available on the net.

Kai


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Re: [CentOS] repeated local ephemeral to 80

2011-04-02 Thread Kai Schaetzl
well, first question: why don't you allow local access to port 80?
There is no reason for that.
This is httpd itself. Switch on the status page and then look for 
yourself. It's a well-known "phenomenon" since Apache 2.0 or 2.2.

Kai


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[CentOS] Best way to extend pv partition for LVM

2011-04-02 Thread Kai Schaetzl
I've replaced disks in a hardware RAID 1 with larger disks and enlarged 
the array. Now I have to find a way to tell LVM about the extra space.
It seems there are two ways:
1. delete partition with fdisk and recreate a larger one. This is 
obviously a bit tricky if you do not want to lose data, I haven't 
investigated further yet.
2. create another partition on the disk, pvcreate another pv and then add 
it to the existing volume group with vgextend
3. a possible third way: increase the partition size. According to Google 
most if not all disk tools want to resize a file system as well and since 
there is no file system they will fail. I'm not sure about the status with 
this for the tools that come with CentOS (fdisk, parted, other?)

No. 2 seems to be the easy way. Any objections?
One I thought of:
What does happen when I use No. 2 and I add new lvs? Can it happen that 
new lvs get "spanned" over both pvs or can I assure that a pv gets created 
using only one of the pvs? (I would prefer the latter, it doesn't matter 
if I use a few MB because of the ineffectiveness of allocation.)

Thanks for recommendations.

Kai


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Re: [CentOS] Run from usb

2011-04-02 Thread Michel van Deventer
A quick Google search on 'centos from usbstick' returned the following
link (among others) :
https://projects.centos.org/trac/livecd/wiki/ImageFlash

Regards,

Michel

On Sat, 2011-04-02 at 14:53 +0200, Kai Schaetzl wrote:
> Mattias wrote on Sat, 2 Apr 2011 14:19:17 +0200:
> 
> > I will run centos from usb like you can with e.g ubuntu
> > A usb pendrive
> 
> And what is the problem? This information is all available on the net.
> 
> Kai
> 
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Re: [CentOS] Run from usb

2011-04-02 Thread mattias
And this list are not only for problems

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Of Kai Schaetzl
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 2:53 PM
To: centos@centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Run from usb


Mattias wrote on Sat, 2 Apr 2011 14:19:17 +0200:

> I will run centos from usb like you can with e.g ubuntu
> A usb pendrive

And what is the problem? This information is all available on the net.

Kai


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Re: [CentOS] Best way to extend pv partition for LVM

2011-04-02 Thread Jay Leafey

Kai Schaetzl wrote:
I've replaced disks in a hardware RAID 1 with larger disks and enlarged 
the array. Now I have to find a way to tell LVM about the extra space.

It seems there are two ways:
1. delete partition with fdisk and recreate a larger one. This is 
obviously a bit tricky if you do not want to lose data, I haven't 
investigated further yet.
2. create another partition on the disk, pvcreate another pv and then add 
it to the existing volume group with vgextend
3. a possible third way: increase the partition size. According to Google 
most if not all disk tools want to resize a file system as well and since 
there is no file system they will fail. I'm not sure about the status with 
this for the tools that come with CentOS (fdisk, parted, other?)


No. 2 seems to be the easy way. Any objections?
One I thought of:
What does happen when I use No. 2 and I add new lvs? Can it happen that 
new lvs get "spanned" over both pvs or can I assure that a pv gets created 
using only one of the pvs? (I would prefer the latter, it doesn't matter 
if I use a few MB because of the ineffectiveness of allocation.)


Thanks for recommendations.

Kai



Kai,

I ran into the same circumstances a while back and, after a lot of 
consideration and testing, I chose door #2.  It's the most expedient way 
to do it if you have no other resources available, but it does have some 
inefficiencies involved in it.


You COULD use option #1, but it requires some additional resources and a 
LOT of shuffling.  Specifically:


- add an extra disk to the volume group (pvcreate, vgextend)
- move the extents off of the "old" PVs onto the new PV using pvmove
- drop the PVs from the old disks out of the VG
- delete the PVs from the old disks
- repartitioned the old disks
- created PVs on the old disks
- added the new/old PVs to the VG
- move the extents from the temporary PV to the new/old PVs
- remove the temporary disk from the VG, delete the temporary PV

WAY too much shuffling and moving parts to suit me.  The system never 
has to shut down, but performance can truly go into the dumper while 
pvmove is shuffling bits.


I was originally thinking option #3 would be the "best" (i.e. most 
efficient) way, but on a test system I tried several times to extend the 
partitions to include the extra space and failed miserably.  Like you, I 
got stalled at the point of trying to extend the partitions.  parted 
seems to refuse to do so unless there is a supported filesystem on the 
partition, which does not seem to include LVM.


If anybody has some hints about how to work around parted's reluctance 
to merely extend an arbitrary partition, I'd really like to know!  I 
know I could use fdisk to delete the old partition and recreated it at a 
larger size, but that scares the bejesus out of my timid soul, having 
had power failures during critical operations on more than one occasion.

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Re: [CentOS] Best way to extend pv partition for LVM

2011-04-02 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Sat, 2011-04-02 at 12:02 -0500, Jay Leafey wrote:
> Kai Schaetzl wrote:
> > I've replaced disks in a hardware RAID 1 with larger disks and enlarged 
> > the array. Now I have to find a way to tell LVM about the extra space.
> > It seems there are two ways:
> > 2. create another partition on the disk, pvcreate another pv and then add 
> > it to the existing volume group with vgextend
> > No. 2 seems to be the easy way. Any objections?

Correct.

> > One I thought of:
> > What does happen when I use No. 2 and I add new lvs? Can it happen that 
> > new lvs get "spanned" over both pvs or can I assure that a pv gets created 
> > using only one of the pvs?

You can specify this [I believe] when you create an LV [which PVs are
eligable].

> I ran into the same circumstances a while back and, after a lot of 
> consideration and testing, I chose door #2.  It's the most expedient way 
> to do it if you have no other resources available, but it does have some 
> inefficiencies involved in it.

+1

And doing so is the entire point of LVM.

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[CentOS] WD RE4-GP Dropped From Raid

2011-04-02 Thread Gerhard Schneider

Did you check if you already have the G05 firmware on all RE4-GP?
The G04 firmware is not suitable for RAID.

http://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?f=182&t=25057

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Re: [CentOS] WD RE4-GP Dropped From Raid

2011-04-02 Thread Steve Brooks
On Sat, 2 Apr 2011, Gerhard Schneider wrote:

>
> Did you check if you already have the G05 firmware on all RE4-GP?
> The G04 firmware is not suitable for RAID.
>
> http://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?f=182&t=25057

Yes all our drives are on G05 firmware.

Cheers,

Steve

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Re: [CentOS] Run from usb

2011-04-02 Thread Michael Klinosky
mattias wrote:
> And this list are not only for problems
>
 > (snip)
> 
> Mattias wrote on Sat, 2 Apr 2011 14:19:17 +0200:
> 
>> I will run centos from usb like you can with e.g ubuntu
>> A usb pendrive
> 
> And what is the problem? This information is all available on the net.
> 
> Kai

Correct, Mattias. But, your lack of effort makes it a problem.
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[CentOS] ZFS @ centOS

2011-04-02 Thread Dawid Horacio Golebiewski
I have trouble finding definitive information about this. I am considering
the use of SME 7.5.1 (centOS based) for my server needs, but I do want to
use ZFS and I thus far I have only found information about the ZFS-Fuse
implementation and unclear hints that there is another way. Phoronix
reported that http://kqinfotech.com/ would release some form of ZFS for the
kernel but I have found nothing.

Can so. tell me if fuse-ZFS is more trouble than it's worth? 

Thanks in adv.

Dawide

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Re: [CentOS] ZFS @ centOS

2011-04-02 Thread compdoc
> Can so. tell me if fuse-ZFS is more trouble than it's worth?

I've tried both fuse-ZFS, and also zfs installed from rpm's on
zfsonlinux.org. Both on centos 5.5.

fuse-ZFS is more polished, but cut write speeds in half on my raid 5.

I ended up going ext4.

SME Server is great by the way - been using it for years.



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Re: [CentOS] ZFS @ centOS

2011-04-02 Thread John R Pierce
On 04/02/11 1:54 PM, Dawid Horacio Golebiewski wrote:
> I have trouble finding definitive information about this. I am considering
> the use of SME 7.5.1 (centOS based) for my server needs, but I do want to
> use ZFS and I thus far I have only found information about the ZFS-Fuse
> implementation and unclear hints that there is another way. Phoronix
> reported that http://kqinfotech.com/ would release some form of ZFS for the
> kernel but I have found nothing.
>
> Can so. tell me if fuse-ZFS is more trouble than it's worth?

ZFS isn't GPL, therefore can't be integrated into the kernel where a 
file system belongs, therefore is pretty much relegated to user space 
(fuse), and its just not very well supported on Linux.

If you really want to use ZFS, I'd suggest using Solaris or one of its 
derivatives (OpenIndiana, etc) where its native.




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Re: [CentOS] ZFS @ centOS

2011-04-02 Thread Dawid Horacy Golebiewski
I pondered Solaris for some time, but as I do not intend to build the OS 
"from scratch" and nexenta was to GUIed for me I started researching SME.
What puzzled me is the theory and the practice: RAIDz is the best 
solution from a theoretical standpoint (maximum features available) but 
still raid 5,65+0 etc. are used. Why?

Opensolaris supposedly stopped last February.


John R Pierce schrieb:
> On 04/02/11 1:54 PM, Dawid Horacio Golebiewski wrote:
>   
>> I have trouble finding definitive information about this. I am considering
>> the use of SME 7.5.1 (centOS based) for my server needs, but I do want to
>> use ZFS and I thus far I have only found information about the ZFS-Fuse
>> implementation and unclear hints that there is another way. Phoronix
>> reported that http://kqinfotech.com/ would release some form of ZFS for the
>> kernel but I have found nothing.
>>
>> Can so. tell me if fuse-ZFS is more trouble than it's worth?
>> 
>
> ZFS isn't GPL, therefore can't be integrated into the kernel where a 
> file system belongs, therefore is pretty much relegated to user space 
> (fuse), and its just not very well supported on Linux.
>
> If you really want to use ZFS, I'd suggest using Solaris or one of its 
> derivatives (OpenIndiana, etc) where its native.
>
>
>
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Re: [CentOS] ZFS @ centOS

2011-04-02 Thread John R Pierce
On 04/02/11 2:28 PM, Dawid Horacy Golebiewski wrote:
> Opensolaris supposedly stopped last February.

opensolaris has been superceded by openindiana (full distribution) and 
illumos (a community developed/supported kernel derived from opensolaris).




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