Re: [CentOS] how to separate individual logs?

2010-12-04 Thread hadi motamedi
On 12/1/10, John Doe  wrote:
> I copy/pasted the code above and it works fine...
> If I indent it like mine, they are identical.
> Check that ftp does not add control chars.
> You run it with bash, right?
> Ask your sysadmin/colegue to help you.
>
> JD
>
Sorry to forget to mention that your code was really 'The Power of cents'
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[CentOS] yum-complete-transaction

2010-12-04 Thread Johan Scheepers
Good day,

Some yum instructions I do not know.
Kindly some pointers please.

There are unfinished transactions remaining. You might consider running 
yum-complete-transaction first to finish them.
The program yum-complete-transaction is found in the yum-utils package.

This is where I am lost

Thanks
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[CentOS] Fwd: Linux, Windows AD domain, and IDs

2010-12-04 Thread Scott Ehrlich
You have a CentOS (for example) workstation that is a member of a
Windows AD domain courtesy of modified smb.conf and krb5.conf files.
There are, thus, no local user accounts on the linux workstation.

There is a network application that benefits most (maybe even
requires) the user's numerical portion of their employee ID as their
linux workstation id.

Thus, if I log in, my domain username might be scott12.   My employee
ID might be se123456.    If I log into the linux workstation, I'm
going to log in as scott12 along with providing my password.    I type
id at the shell, and am given something like scott12 (10001) for the
user.    How can I manage to make the id [also] equal to 123456 for
user scott12 without breaking anything?

Thanks for any leads.

Scott
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Re: [CentOS] (SOLVED) yum-complete-transaction

2010-12-04 Thread Johan Scheepers
Johan Scheepers wrote:
> Good day,
> 
> Some yum instructions I do not know.
> Kindly some pointers please.
> 
> There are unfinished transactions remaining. You might consider running 
> yum-complete-transaction first to finish them.
> The program yum-complete-transaction is found in the yum-utils package.
> 
> This is where I am lost
> 
> Thanks
> Johan
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I found the required stuf on google.

Sorry.
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Re: [CentOS] # chkconfig: kill at run level 3

2010-12-04 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Michael D. Berger
 wrote:
> In the control script of my daemon in /etc/init.d?, I have
>   # chkconfig: 35 97 3
>
> The result of this is that I have links:
>   /etc/rc.d/rc1.d/K03...
>   /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S97...
>   /etc/rc.d/rc5.d/S97...
>
> As mentioned in a previous thread, my complex daemon throws
> an exception when I shutdown.  Perhaps things might be better
> if I had:
>   /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/K03...
>
> Might this be a good idea?  If so, how can I make it happen
> automatically?

Read the manual page for the "chkconfig" command, and then run:
   /sbin/chkconfig "scriptname" off
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Re: [CentOS] LVM change disk

2010-12-04 Thread Jim Wildman
1) Plan better next time
2) Use a USB drive as a temporary disk

> Dear all,
> I have a 4,1TB Logical volume consist of four disks with size of 2TB,
> 1TB, 1TB, and 500GB. The LV currently full. I plan to change the 1Tb
> disks and 500Gb disks. I plan to remove one 1TB disk or the 500GB so
> that I can replace it with 2TB disk. most LVM tutorial ask to use
> pvmove to move phisical extent to the new disk. The problem is that I
> have no SATA port left so that I can't move PE to the new disk. How to
> migrate the data safely so that I can replace the disk? Thank you in
> advance
> regards,
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [CentOS] LVM change disk

2010-12-04 Thread Jorge Fábregas
On Saturday 04 December 2010 02:47:15 muhammad panji wrote:
> The problem is that I have no SATA port left so that I can't move PE to the
> new disk.

I don't see how you can solve your problem with the current setup (you need to 
free up space and put it somewhere but you don't have any more disks to add to 
the volume group as you don't have any more SATA ports left...).  
Two possible workarounds:

Free up 500GB of space by:
1- temporarily moving the data to an external USB drive or
2- move the data to another host (thru the network)

Then you can use "pvmove" to remove the 500GB drive and put the 2TB one.

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Re: [CentOS] Fwd: Linux, Windows AD domain, and IDs

2010-12-04 Thread Ryan Wagoner
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 5:41 AM, Scott Ehrlich  wrote:
> You have a CentOS (for example) workstation that is a member of a
> Windows AD domain courtesy of modified smb.conf and krb5.conf files.
> There are, thus, no local user accounts on the linux workstation.
>
> There is a network application that benefits most (maybe even
> requires) the user's numerical portion of their employee ID as their
> linux workstation id.
>
> Thus, if I log in, my domain username might be scott12.   My employee
> ID might be se123456.    If I log into the linux workstation, I'm
> going to log in as scott12 along with providing my password.    I type
> id at the shell, and am given something like scott12 (10001) for the
> user.    How can I manage to make the id [also] equal to 123456 for
> user scott12 without breaking anything?
>
> Thanks for any leads.
>
> Scott

You need to use IDMAP to do this. Have a look at the below link,
specially the IDMAP storage in LDAP section.

http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/idmapper.html

Ryan
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Re: [CentOS] LVM change disk

2010-12-04 Thread Ryan Wagoner
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 1:47 AM, muhammad panji  wrote:
> Dear all,
> I have a 4,1TB Logical volume consist of four disks with size of 2TB,
> 1TB, 1TB, and 500GB. The LV currently full. I plan to change the 1Tb
> disks and 500Gb disks. I plan to remove one 1TB disk or the 500GB so
> that I can replace it with 2TB disk. most LVM tutorial ask to use
> pvmove to move phisical extent to the new disk. The problem is that I
> have no SATA port left so that I can't move PE to the new disk. How to
> migrate the data safely so that I can replace the disk? Thank you in
> advance
> regards,

The easiest way would be to move some data off to a USB drive. The
other option would be to dd copy one of the existing disks over to the
2TB disk. Then extend the LVM volume. This would require some disk
swapping and careful planning.

Ryan
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Re: [CentOS] Fwd: Linux, Windows AD domain, and IDs

2010-12-04 Thread Benjamin Donnachie
On 4 December 2010 14:34, Ryan Wagoner  wrote:
> You need to use IDMAP to do this. Have a look at the below link,
> specially the IDMAP storage in LDAP section.

Alternatively, install Windows Services for UNIX on the Active
Directory box, and define each user's UID within AD.  Useful if you
have lots of Linux boxes.

Ben
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Re: [CentOS] # chkconfig: kill at run level 3

2010-12-04 Thread Keith Roberts
On Sat, 4 Dec 2010, Michael D. Berger wrote:

> To: centos@centos.org
> From: Michael D. Berger 
> Subject: [CentOS] # chkconfig: kill at run level 3
> 
> In the control script of my daemon in /etc/init.d?, I have
>   # chkconfig: 35 97 3
>
> The result of this is that I have links:
>   /etc/rc.d/rc1.d/K03...
>   /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S97...
>   /etc/rc.d/rc5.d/S97...
>
> As mentioned in a previous thread, my complex daemon throws
> an exception when I shutdown.  Perhaps things might be better
> if I had:
>   /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/K03...
>
> Might this be a good idea?  If so, how can I make it happen
> automatically?

What I would suggest is using mc file/directory browser:

cd to /etc/init.d/

create a directory called tmp-backups

make a copy of all the init scripts in above directory

Working in /etc/init.d/ find the start/stop script that's 
giving you problems.

Copy it to another filename, eg (your-initials)-scriptname

(That way any init scripts you add will all be in one place, 
starting with your initials) and easy to find.

Gut the new script, and use it as a skeleton to create your 
own init start/stop script.

Decide what you want the script to do at start time, and 
at stop time.

Alter the parameters for when the script starts and stops, 
at the top of the file.

Make this script run at shutdown before the main script you 
copied it from.

You might need to add a shell conditional to prevent the 
script from shutting down your app straight away at boot 
time.

Use chkconfig to automatically create the necessary 
start/stop files for each run level.

See 'pinfo chkconfig'

NAME
chkconfig  -  updates  and queries runlevel 
information for system
services

SYNOPSIS
chkconfig --list [name]
chkconfig --add name
chkconfig --del name
chkconfig [--level levels] name 

chkconfig [--level levels] name

DESCRIPTION

chkconfig provides a simple command-line tool for 
maintaining the /etc/rc[0-6].d directory hierarchy by relieving 
system administra-tors of the task of directly manipulating  the 
numerous symbolic links in those directories.

You might even be able to create a stop script without the 
associated start script.

Each start/stop script in /etc/rc0.d - rc6.d is a symlink to 
the actual script in /etc/init.d/

The rc*.d start scripts have the format:

@S00scriptname

and the stop scripts

@K00scriptname

These scripts are run in ascending numeric order, so you 
will need to create a kill script (K00myscript) that is 
numbered befroe the script you want to affect.

Please see this old SuSE documentation for a good 
description of the Linux boot process:

http://linuxmafia.com/linux/suse-linux-internals/part2.html

HTH

Kind Regards,

Keith Roberts

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[CentOS] Inside the Linux boot process

2010-12-04 Thread Keith Roberts
Interesting article from IBM on how Linux boots, with some 
nice graphics.

http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-linuxboot/index.html

Inside the Linux boot process

Take a guided tour from the Master Boot Record to the first 
user-space application

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Re: [CentOS] yum-complete-transaction

2010-12-04 Thread Les Mikesell
On 12/4/10 4:20 AM, Johan Scheepers wrote:
> Good day,
>
> Some yum instructions I do not know.
> Kindly some pointers please.
>
> There are unfinished transactions remaining. You might consider running
> yum-complete-transaction first to finish them.
> The program yum-complete-transaction is found in the yum-utils package.
>
> This is where I am lost

Just type the command (as root):

yum-complete-transaction

and if the program is not found,

yum install yum-utils
yum-complete-transaction


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Re: [CentOS] yum-complete-transaction

2010-12-04 Thread Johan Scheepers
Les Mikesell wrote:
> On 12/4/10 4:20 AM, Johan Scheepers wrote:
>> Good day,
>>
>> Some yum instructions I do not know.
>> Kindly some pointers please.
>>
>> There are unfinished transactions remaining. You might consider running
>> yum-complete-transaction first to finish them.
>> The program yum-complete-transaction is found in the yum-utils package.
>>
>> This is where I am lost
> 
> Just type the command (as root):
> 
> yum-complete-transaction
> 
> and if the program is not found,
> 
> yum install yum-utils
> yum-complete-transaction
> 
> 
Good day,
It was not installed.
Have done that.
Works fine.
This one is new to me.
Regards
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[CentOS] Fiddling with software RAID1 : continue working with one of two disks failing?

2010-12-04 Thread Niki Kovacs
Hi,

I'm currently experimenting with software RAID1 on a spare PC with two 
40 GB hard disks. Normally, on a desktop PC with only one hard disk, I 
have a very simple partitioning scheme like this :

/dev/hda1  80 MB/boot   ext2
/dev/hda2   1 GBswap
/dev/hda3  39 GB/   ext3

Here's what I'd like to do. Partition a second hard disk (say, /dev/hdb) 
with three partitions. Setup RAID1 like this :

/dev/md0   80 MB/boot   ext2
/dev/md11 GBswap
/dev/md2   39 GB/   ext3

I somehow managed to get this far. Here's what I have :

[r...@raymonde ~]# fdisk -l /dev/hda

Disk /dev/hda: 41.1 GB, 41110142976 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4998 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Device Boot   StartEnd  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   *1 11   88326   fd  Linux raid autodetect
/dev/hda2   12134  987997+  fd  Linux raid autodetect
/dev/hda3  135   499839070080   fd  Linux raid autodetect

[r...@raymonde ~]# fdisk -l /dev/hdb

Disk /dev/hdb: 41.1 GB, 41110142976 bytes
16 heads, 63 sectors/track, 79656 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 = 516096 bytes

Device Boot   StartEnd  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hdb1   *1156   78592+  fd  Linux raid autodetect
/dev/hdb2  157   2095  977256   fd  Linux raid autodetect
/dev/hdb3 2096  7965639090744   fd  Linux raid autodetect

During install, my /dev/md1 and /dev/md2 got somehow mixed up, which 
doesn't really matter :

[r...@raymonde ~]# cat /etc/fstab
/dev/md1/   ext3defaults1 1
/dev/md0/boot   ext2defaults1 2
tmpfs   /dev/shmtmpfs   defaults0 0
devpts  /dev/ptsdevpts  gid=5,mode=620  0 0
sysfs   /syssysfs   defaults0 0
proc/proc   procdefaults0 0
/dev/md2swapswapdefaults0 0

I wasn't sure where to install GRUB, so I chose /dev/md0.

I was wondering if this setup theoretically enabled me to continue 
working with one disk failure. So I tried unplugging the power cord of 
one of my hard disks... which resulted in a "GRUB Disk Error" on boot.

Question : is there a way to still run the system with either of the two 
disks "damaged" (in this case : unplugged)? And if so, how would I have 
to go about it in my setup?

Cheers from the freezing South of France,

Niki





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Re: [CentOS] Fiddling with software RAID1 : continue working with one of two disks failing?

2010-12-04 Thread Les Mikesell
On 12/4/10 11:34 AM, Niki Kovacs wrote:
>
> I wasn't sure where to install GRUB, so I chose /dev/md0.

Grub doesn't know anything about raid.  It only works because each component of 
a RAID1 looks just like a non-raid filesystem.  You should install grub on the 
master boot partition of both member disks.

> I was wondering if this setup theoretically enabled me to continue
> working with one disk failure. So I tried unplugging the power cord of
> one of my hard disks... which resulted in a "GRUB Disk Error" on boot.
> Question : is there a way to still run the system with either of the two
> disks "damaged" (in this case : unplugged)? And if so, how would I have
> to go about it in my setup?

Yes, raid1 isn't bothered at all by missing members.  You just have to install 
grub on the underlying disks as though you did not have raid. There can be some 
differences in the way ide/sata/scsi controllers handle a disk failure - and 
IDE's often hang the controller if one of two disks on the cable fails. 
Normally the first disk will always work if the 2nd fails, but if the first 
disk 
fails both the bios and linux have to see the same shift in positions - so even 
though you are installing grub on what it calls hd1, if it boots from there it 
will see its root at hd0,1.   Worst case - just be prepared to boot a rescue 
disk and reinstall grub if your first disk fails.

When you replace the drive and want to rebuild the mirror, just:
mdadm --add /dev/md? /dev/sd??

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Re: [CentOS] yum-complete-transaction

2010-12-04 Thread RedShift
On 12/04/10 18:00, Johan Scheepers wrote:
> Les Mikesell wrote:
>> On 12/4/10 4:20 AM, Johan Scheepers wrote:
>>> Good day,
>>>
>>> Some yum instructions I do not know.
>>> Kindly some pointers please.
>>>
>>> There are unfinished transactions remaining. You might consider running
>>> yum-complete-transaction first to finish them.
>>> The program yum-complete-transaction is found in the yum-utils package.
>>>
>>> This is where I am lost
>>
>> Just type the command (as root):
>>
>> yum-complete-transaction
>>
>> and if the program is not found,
>>
>> yum install yum-utils
>> yum-complete-transaction
>>
>>
> Good day,
> It was not installed.
> Have done that.
> Works fine.
> This one is new to me.
> Regards
> Johan

So every time something new happens you need your hand held?
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Re: [CentOS] LVM change disk

2010-12-04 Thread John R Pierce
On 12/03/10 10:47 PM, muhammad panji wrote:
> Dear all,
> I have a 4,1TB Logical volume consist of four disks with size of 2TB,
> 1TB, 1TB, and 500GB. The LV currently full. I plan to change the 1Tb
> disks and 500Gb disks. I plan to remove one 1TB disk or the 500GB so
> that I can replace it with 2TB disk. most LVM tutorial ask to use
> pvmove to move phisical extent to the new disk. The problem is that I
> have no SATA port left so that I can't move PE to the new disk. How to
> migrate the data safely so that I can replace the disk? Thank you in
> advance


do you realize that if any one of those 4 miscellaneous drives fails, 
you lose the whole volume?

got backup?   if you do, then just wipe and rebuild your LVM and restore 
the backup.

if you don't, well, you better start thinking about what you do when one 
of those drives fails and takes out all your data.




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Re: [CentOS] Fiddling with software RAID1 : continue working with one of two disks failing?

2010-12-04 Thread Niki Kovacs
Les Mikesell a écrit :
> On 12/4/10 11:34 AM, Niki Kovacs wrote:
>> I wasn't sure where to install GRUB, so I chose /dev/md0.
> 
> Grub doesn't know anything about raid.  It only works because each component 
> of 
> a RAID1 looks just like a non-raid filesystem.  You should install grub on 
> the 
> master boot partition of both member disks.

Thanks for the quick reply. I googled a bit more about the problem... 
and stumbled over an excellent article in the CentOS wiki, which 
adresses exactly my problem:

http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/SoftwareRAIDonCentOS5

Next time I know where to look first :o)

Cheers,

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Re: [CentOS] Fiddling with software RAID1 : continue working with one of two disks failing?

2010-12-04 Thread Robert Heller
At Sat, 04 Dec 2010 18:34:26 +0100 CentOS mailing list  
wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm currently experimenting with software RAID1 on a spare PC with two 
> 40 GB hard disks. Normally, on a desktop PC with only one hard disk, I 
> have a very simple partitioning scheme like this :
> 
> /dev/hda1  80 MB/boot   ext2
> /dev/hda2   1 GBswap
> /dev/hda3  39 GB/   ext3
> 
> Here's what I'd like to do. Partition a second hard disk (say, /dev/hdb) 
> with three partitions. Setup RAID1 like this :
> 
> /dev/md0   80 MB/boot   ext2
> /dev/md11 GBswap
> /dev/md2   39 GB/   ext3
> 
> I somehow managed to get this far. Here's what I have :
> 
> [r...@raymonde ~]# fdisk -l /dev/hda
> 
> Disk /dev/hda: 41.1 GB, 41110142976 bytes
> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4998 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
> 
> Device Boot   StartEnd  Blocks   Id  System
> /dev/hda1   *1 11   88326   fd  Linux raid autodetect
> /dev/hda2   12134  987997+  fd  Linux raid autodetect
> /dev/hda3  135   499839070080   fd  Linux raid autodetect
> 
> [r...@raymonde ~]# fdisk -l /dev/hdb
> 
> Disk /dev/hdb: 41.1 GB, 41110142976 bytes
> 16 heads, 63 sectors/track, 79656 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 = 516096 bytes
> 
> Device Boot   StartEnd  Blocks   Id  System
> /dev/hdb1   *1156   78592+  fd  Linux raid autodetect
> /dev/hdb2  157   2095  977256   fd  Linux raid autodetect
> /dev/hdb3 2096  7965639090744   fd  Linux raid autodetect
> 
> During install, my /dev/md1 and /dev/md2 got somehow mixed up, which 
> doesn't really matter :
> 
> [r...@raymonde ~]# cat /etc/fstab
> /dev/md1/   ext3defaults1 1
> /dev/md0/boot   ext2defaults1 2
> tmpfs   /dev/shmtmpfs   defaults0 0
> devpts  /dev/ptsdevpts  gid=5,mode=620  0 0
> sysfs   /syssysfs   defaults0 0
> proc/proc   procdefaults0 0
> /dev/md2swapswapdefaults0 0
> 
> I wasn't sure where to install GRUB, so I chose /dev/md0.

No, you install GRUB (or alternitively, lilo) on *both* /dev/hda AND
/dev/hdb, with your root /dev/hda1.  Neither grub (nor lilo) know about
RAID (ditto for the BIOS).  This is not a problem, since the *elements*
of a RAID1 set look like 'normal' partitions with normal file systems
on them.  You want grub to be in the MBR of /dev/hda -- duping it in
/dev/hdb's MBR allows you to boot (with degraded RAID sets) from
/dev/hdb (cabled & jumpered to be /dev/hda) in the event /dev/hda dies. 

> 
> I was wondering if this setup theoretically enabled me to continue 
> working with one disk failure. So I tried unplugging the power cord of 
> one of my hard disks... which resulted in a "GRUB Disk Error" on boot.
> 
> Question : is there a way to still run the system with either of the two 
> disks "damaged" (in this case : unplugged)? And if so, how would I have 
> to go about it in my setup?

Yes, see above.

Minor performance nit: Doing RAID with two IDE disks on the *same*
controller is not going to buy you anything in terms of performance. I
suspect this is just experimental, mostly to get the feel for how to set
things up, so this is not a major issue.

> 
> Cheers from the freezing South of France,
> 
> Niki
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [CentOS] Fiddling with software RAID1 : continue working with one of two disks failing?

2010-12-04 Thread Niki Kovacs
Robert Heller a écrit :

> 
> Minor performance nit: Doing RAID with two IDE disks on the *same*
> controller is not going to buy you anything in terms of performance. I
> suspect this is just experimental, mostly to get the feel for how to set
> things up, so this is not a major issue.
> 

Yes, this *is* experimental. I'm fiddling with this on a sandbox machine 
just to get a grip on RAID1.

Niki
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Re: [CentOS] # chkconfig: kill at run level 3

2010-12-04 Thread Michael D. Berger
On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 15:25:47 +, Keith Roberts wrote:

[...]
> 
> Please see this old SuSE documentation for a good description of the
> Linux boot process:
> 
> http://linuxmafia.com/linux/suse-linux-internals/part2.html
> 
[...]

Will this SuSE documentation be correct for CentOS, which is RedHat?

Mike.

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Re: [CentOS] # chkconfig: kill at run level 3

2010-12-04 Thread RedShift
On 12/04/10 21:42, Michael D. Berger wrote:
> On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 15:25:47 +, Keith Roberts wrote:
>
> [...]
>>
>> Please see this old SuSE documentation for a good description of the
>> Linux boot process:
>>
>> http://linuxmafia.com/linux/suse-linux-internals/part2.html
>>
> [...]
>
> Will this SuSE documentation be correct for CentOS, which is RedHat?
>
> Mike.
>

The article largely applies yes, but for the latest and greatest just checkout 
the start up scripts in /etc. They are not that hard to read.
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Re: [CentOS] # chkconfig: kill at run level 3

2010-12-04 Thread Keith Roberts
On Sat, 4 Dec 2010, Michael D. Berger wrote:

> To: centos@centos.org
> From: Michael D. Berger 
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] # chkconfig: kill at run level 3
> 
> On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 15:25:47 +, Keith Roberts wrote:
>
> [...]
>>
>> Please see this old SuSE documentation for a good description of the
>> Linux boot process:
>>
>> http://linuxmafia.com/linux/suse-linux-internals/part2.html
>>
> [...]
>
> Will this SuSE documentation be correct for CentOS, which is RedHat?

Well I guess the answer is yes and no, depending on what you 
are refering to.

I gave you that link specifically for the boot process and 
how the /etc/init.d scripts figure in the boot process.

The boot process is *probably* the same for most flavours of 
Linux. Maybe somebody else on this list can comment on that?

If you understand how these scripts work, then you will have 
more success at modyfying them :)

The good thing about Fedora/RHEL/Centos is the chkconfig 
script, which does all the hard work of setting up each 
run-level script for you.

Under SuSE a few years ago, these scripts had to be delat 
with by hand, IIRC. I know there was no chkconfig on the 
versions of SuSE I was using ~ 9.2

Kind Regards,

Keith Roberts HNC CDP

-- 
In theory, theory and practice are the same;
in practice they are not.

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Re: [CentOS] linux boot process (was# chkconfig: kill at run level 3)

2010-12-04 Thread Cia Watson
On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 20:42:02 + (UTC)
"Michael D. Berger"  wrote:

> On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 15:25:47 +, Keith Roberts wrote:
> 
> [...]
> > 
> > Please see this old SuSE documentation for a good description of the
> > Linux boot process:
> > 
> > http://linuxmafia.com/linux/suse-linux-internals/part2.html
> > 
> [...]
> 
> Will this SuSE documentation be correct for CentOS, which is RedHat?

I'm not a boot-loader expert, but CentOS uses grub and the first thing
I notice about the attached article is that it talks about LILO. From
what I've gathered LILO is a different animal than grub, so as far as
the documentation is specific to lilo processes, I'd say no it wouldn't
be correct for CentOS. 

However since the 'li' part of lilo stands for linux, then it may be a
good general reference. But some of those more expert in the
differences two will probably chime in at some point. 
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Re: [CentOS] linux boot process (was# chkconfig: kill at run level 3)

2010-12-04 Thread Michael D. Berger
On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 15:58:10 +, Cia Watson wrote:
[...]
 04 Dec 2010 15:25:47 +, Keith Roberts wrote:
>> 
[...]
> 
> I'm not a boot-loader expert, but CentOS uses grub and the first thing I
> notice about the attached article is that it talks about LILO. From what
> I've gathered LILO is a different animal than grub, so as far as the
> documentation is specific to lilo processes, I'd say no it wouldn't be
> correct for CentOS.
> 
> However since the 'li' part of lilo stands for linux, then it may be a
> good general reference. But some of those more expert in the differences
> two will probably chime in at some point.

So where can I find a good description of how grub works in RedHat?

Thanks,
Mike.

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Re: [CentOS] linux boot process (was# chkconfig: kill at run level 3)

2010-12-04 Thread Cia Watson
On Sun, 5 Dec 2010 03:41:45 + (UTC)
"Michael D. Berger"  wrote:

> On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 15:58:10 +, Cia Watson wrote:
> [...]
>  04 Dec 2010 15:25:47 +, Keith Roberts wrote:
> >> 
> [...]
> > 
> > I'm not a boot-loader expert, but CentOS uses grub and the first
> > thing I notice about the attached article is that it talks about
> > LILO. From what I've gathered LILO is a different animal than grub,
> > so as far as the documentation is specific to lilo processes, I'd
> > say no it wouldn't be correct for CentOS.
> > 
> > However since the 'li' part of lilo stands for linux, then it may
> > be a good general reference. But some of those more expert in the
> > differences two will probably chime in at some point.
> 
> So where can I find a good description of how grub works in RedHat?

Here's some links I found doing a general search for grub redhat:

http://magazine.redhat.com/2007/03/21/using-grub-to-overcome-boot-problems/

http://www.sorgonet.com/linux/grubrestore

General info:

http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/

This one talks about boot floppies, so it's obviously a little old :-/
http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/grub/grub.htm

http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4622





 

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Re: [CentOS] linux boot process (was# chkconfig: kill at run level 3)

2010-12-04 Thread John R Pierce

> I'm not a boot-loader expert, but CentOS uses grub and the first thing
> I notice about the attached article is that it talks about LILO. From
> what I've gathered LILO is a different animal than grub, so as far as
> the documentation is specific to lilo processes, I'd say no it wouldn't
> be correct for CentOS.
>
> However since the 'li' part of lilo stands for linux, then it may be a
> good general reference. But some of those more expert in the
> differences two will probably chime in at some point.


for the sake of anyone reading this thread in the future...

LILO was the old linux loader.  it was used in the original Red Hat 
Linux until about 7.2.

GRUB is more powerful, more flexible, supports more/newer hardware, and 
newer/larger file systems, etc etc.  All RHEL/CentOS systems have used grub.

Lilo requires boot information to be updated in the MBR each time 
anything changed.grub can read the grub.conf file in the /boot file 
system so there's no need to update it when you edit the file.


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