[CentOS] IRC telling you to go to mailing list - it's for good reason ....

2010-05-30 Thread Gabriel - IP Guys
Just to answer the aspect of why people in IRC tell you to go to a mailing list 
– because mailing list answers are more permanent that IRC, and also, it 
spreads the knowledge of the question, and the answer over a much wider time 
frame rather than just the two to three sentences that are involved in fixing 
your situation. It also notifies the mailing list which is generally watched by 
the devs/patchers/genius(is)/workaround guys/people from other 
distros/generally smart people – who could probably help you work through the 
problem, or at least direct you to a page that can.

These days people treat IRC like a street market for info, there are no rules 
other than do not paste more than 3 lines! (pastebin is your friend) and you 
can say what you like to who you like, and log off, without so much as 
contributing to the community. …  At least by coming to the mailing list, or at 
least searching the archives, the effort that had previously been exerted to 
answer the question the first 20 times on the mailing list, will not be wasted.

IRC has been around for a long time, but unless the irc server is irc.(project 
domain name here).org then expect it to be staffed by volunteers and people who 
may not have the same focus as yourself. IRC is just one of a number of 
resources. It a good spot for instant relief, (think street hooker), but the 
mailing list is your wife!

*disclaimer* I do not advocate the use of street hookers, nor do I 
discriminate/have any negative feeling towards against those who do, or indeed 
are ☺ - I just wanted to make a point!

I think I made my point, all the resources are out there on the web, this is 
open source, we don’t pay for it, be glad with the system that has actually 
managed to evolve given the fact the only incentive has been to pass on 
knowledge.

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[CentOS] CentOS with Kernel 2.6.32 built-in

2010-05-30 Thread Adryan Pop
I have a Asus laptop, from the new generation, and my network driver is
present in the kernel since version 2.6.32(Jmicron). Is there any CentOS
with this kernel? I tried to compile myself, but I failed. Is a bit harder
than I thought.

Is there any testing version of CentOS or some backports?

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS with Kernel 2.6.32 built-in

2010-05-30 Thread Eero Volotinen
2010/5/30 Adryan Pop :
> I have a Asus laptop, from the new generation, and my network driver is
> present in the kernel since version 2.6.32(Jmicron). Is there any CentOS
> with this kernel? I tried to compile myself, but I failed. Is a bit harder
> than I thought.
>
> Is there any testing version of CentOS or some backports?

No?

Try to compile driver again and paste error messages to centos mailing
list.. usually you are only missing the development headers..

Anyway, is the centos really correct distribution for laptop ?

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS with Kernel 2.6.32 built-in

2010-05-30 Thread Adryan Pop
OK, I'll try first on a virtual machine.

1. I've install linux mint, takes 800 MB ram.
2. Ubuntu 10.04 350MB ram but was crashing.
3. Fedora 13, good but installed a damn package and didn't launch anymore.
4. debian Testing(good kernel) but no touchpad or  ati drivers.
5. back to mint, to make some researches.

On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 6:21 AM, Eero Volotinen wrote:

> 2010/5/30 Adryan Pop :
> > I have a Asus laptop, from the new generation, and my network driver is
> > present in the kernel since version 2.6.32(Jmicron). Is there any CentOS
> > with this kernel? I tried to compile myself, but I failed. Is a bit
> harder
> > than I thought.
> >
> > Is there any testing version of CentOS or some backports?
>
> No?
>
> Try to compile driver again and paste error messages to centos mailing
> list.. usually you are only missing the development headers..
>
> Anyway, is the centos really correct distribution for laptop ?
>
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS with Kernel 2.6.32 built-in

2010-05-30 Thread Lucian
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Adryan Pop  wrote:
> I have a Asus laptop, from the new generation, and my network driver is
> present in the kernel since version 2.6.32(Jmicron). Is there any CentOS
> with this kernel? I tried to compile myself, but I failed. Is a bit harder
> than I thought.
>
> Is there any testing version of CentOS or some backports?
>
> Thanks
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Hi,

You could try Corey's kernels from here:
http://rpm.cormander.com/repo/grsec/kernel-stable/x86_64/RPMS/
Or http://rpm.cormander.com/repo/grsec/kernel-stable/i386/RPMS/ if you
run 32 bit.

You need the vanilla version (unless you want to mess with grsecurity)
and you may also need to regenerate initrd (notice this kernels have
ehci/uhci/ata etc builtin).
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS with Kernel 2.6.32 built-in

2010-05-30 Thread Robert Heller
At Sun, 30 May 2010 05:37:21 -0400 CentOS mailing list  
wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> I have a Asus laptop, from the new generation, and my network driver is
> present in the kernel since version 2.6.32(Jmicron). Is there any CentOS
> with this kernel? I tried to compile myself, but I failed. Is a bit harder
> than I thought.
> 
> Is there any testing version of CentOS or some backports?

RedHat (and thus CentOS) backports esentual drivers and patches.  Even
though the kernel version is 2.6.18 (CentOS/RHEL 5), it contains bits
and pieces from newer kernels.  There is also the elrepo repository,
which contains a pile of additional kernel modules (drivers mostly) that
RedHat does not build.  Check the elrepo elrepo repository -- your
driver might be there.

> 
> Thanks
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS with Kernel 2.6.32 built-in

2010-05-30 Thread Robert Heller
At Sun, 30 May 2010 13:21:55 +0300 CentOS mailing list  
wrote:

> 
> 2010/5/30 Adryan Pop :
> > I have a Asus laptop, from the new generation, and my network driver is
> > present in the kernel since version 2.6.32(Jmicron). Is there any CentOS
> > with this kernel? I tried to compile myself, but I failed. Is a bit harder
> > than I thought.
> >
> > Is there any testing version of CentOS or some backports?
> 
> No?
> 
> Try to compile driver again and paste error messages to centos mailing
> list.. usually you are only missing the development headers..
> 
> Anyway, is the centos really correct distribution for laptop ?

*I* use it on mine...  (Of course it is an *older* laptop...).

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS with Kernel 2.6.32 built-in

2010-05-30 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 5:39 AM, Robert Heller  wrote:

> RedHat (and thus CentOS) backports esentual drivers and patches.  Even
> though the kernel version is 2.6.18 (CentOS/RHEL 5), it contains bits
> and pieces from newer kernels.  There is also the elrepo repository,
> which contains a pile of additional kernel modules (drivers mostly) that
> RedHat does not build.  Check the elrepo elrepo repository -- your
> driver might be there.

You can find if ELRepo has the driver for you by going to FAQ #4 at:

http://elrepo.org/tiki/FAQ

Run the command (one line):

for BUSID in $(/sbin/lspci | awk '{ IGNORECASE=1 } /net/ { print $1
}'); do /sbin/lspci -s $BUSID -m; /sbin/lspci -s $BUSID -n; done

to get the the Vendor:Device ID parings. Then look through:

http://elrepo.org/tiki/DeviceIDs

To see if yours is there.

Hope this helps.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS with Kernel 2.6.32 built-in

2010-05-30 Thread Adryan Pop
I found mine: jme.ko .

Now I have to download it and install it offline.

thank you guys

On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Akemi Yagi  wrote:

> On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 5:39 AM, Robert Heller 
> wrote:
>
> > RedHat (and thus CentOS) backports esentual drivers and patches.  Even
> > though the kernel version is 2.6.18 (CentOS/RHEL 5), it contains bits
> > and pieces from newer kernels.  There is also the elrepo repository,
> > which contains a pile of additional kernel modules (drivers mostly) that
> > RedHat does not build.  Check the elrepo elrepo repository -- your
> > driver might be there.
>
> You can find if ELRepo has the driver for you by going to FAQ #4 at:
>
> http://elrepo.org/tiki/FAQ
>
> Run the command (one line):
>
> for BUSID in $(/sbin/lspci | awk '{ IGNORECASE=1 } /net/ { print $1
> }'); do /sbin/lspci -s $BUSID -m; /sbin/lspci -s $BUSID -n; done
>
> to get the the Vendor:Device ID parings. Then look through:
>
> http://elrepo.org/tiki/DeviceIDs
>
> To see if yours is there.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS with Kernel 2.6.32 built-in

2010-05-30 Thread Adryan Pop
I tried to run it with rpm -ivh but I get this error

jme-kmod-1.0.6.1-1.el5.elrepo.src.rpm: Header V3 DSA signature NOKEY, key ID
baadae52

1: jme-kmod warning: user ajb does not exist - using root

and so on until

#[100%]

and when I execute rpmbuild /usr/share/SPECS/jme.kmod.spec

it said kernel-devel-i368 is needed by jme.kmod

tried to reinstall kernel-devel-2.6.18 but is already installed


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS with Kernel 2.6.32 built-in

2010-05-30 Thread Kay Diederichs
Adryan Pop wrote:
> I tried to run it with rpm -ivh but I get this error
> 
> jme-kmod-1.0.6.1-1.el5.elrepo.src.rpm: Header V3 DSA signature NOKEY,
> key ID baadae52
> 
> 1: jme-kmod warning: user ajb does not exist - using root

this is not an error, it's just information

> 
> and so on until
> 
> #[100%]

now it's installed, and you should be ready to use it

> 
> and when I execute rpmbuild /usr/share/SPECS/jme.kmod.spec
> 

why would you want to do this?


> it said kernel-devel-i368 is needed by jme.kmod
> 
> tried to reinstall kernel-devel-2.6.18 but is already installed
> 
> 
> any solution?

there is no real problem

HTH

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS with Kernel 2.6.32 built-in

2010-05-30 Thread Ryan Wagoner
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Adryan Pop  wrote:
> I tried to run it with rpm -ivh but I get this error
>
> jme-kmod-1.0.6.1-1.el5.elrepo.src.rpm: Header V3 DSA signature NOKEY, key ID
> baadae52
>
> 1: jme-kmod warning: user ajb does not exist - using root
>
> and so on until
>
> #[100%]
>
> and when I execute rpmbuild /usr/share/SPECS/jme.kmod.spec
>
> it said kernel-devel-i368 is needed by jme.kmod
>
> tried to reinstall kernel-devel-2.6.18 but is already installed
>
>
> any solution?
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Have you checked to make sure your running kernel matches the
kernel-devel and kernel-headers RPMs?

uname -r
rpm -qa | grep kernel | sort

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS with Kernel 2.6.32 built-in

2010-05-30 Thread Eero Volotinen
2010/5/30 Adryan Pop :
> I tried to run it with rpm -ivh but I get this error
>
> jme-kmod-1.0.6.1-1.el5.elrepo.src.rpm: Header V3 DSA signature NOKEY, key ID

Err.. you are installing source.rpm instead of normal rpm package?

try package without .src.rpm just pure rpm provides the binaries that
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[CentOS] IRC telling you to go to mailing list - it's for good reason ....

2010-05-30 Thread R P Herrold
On Sun, 30 May 2010, Gabriel - IP Guys wrote:

> Just to answer the aspect of why people in IRC tell you to 
> go to a mailing list – because mailing list answers are more 
> permanent that IRC, and also, it spreads the knowledge of 
> the question, and the answer over a much wider time frame 
> rather than just the two to three sentences that are 
> involved in fixing your situation.

You omit mentioning that (from tracking latencies to 
appearing) the CentOS site, wiki, MLs, CentOS' planet are all 
regularly trawled by major search engines.  The Forum and the 
bug tracker are also indexed but less often. So an answer 
there in these non ephemeral 'gateway into being readily 
re-findable ... thus some of the extended posts I make

> These days people treat IRC like a street market for info, 
> there are no rules other than do not paste more than 3 
> lines! (pastebin is your friend) and you can say what you 
> like to who you like, and log off, without so much as 
> contributing to the community

Drive-bys and externalities are a problem and under the old 
design the CentOS wiki was not such a pigsty; some other team 
members lobbied for a less OCD approach on what is in and off 
topic, and how 'spoon-feeding' was treated. The jury is still 
out on this new approach in my mind; I know I get push back 
from old-timers who preferred the higher signal to noise 
ratio, and want 'quality' back as a preferred metric over 
'friendliness' ...

> IRC has been around for a long time, but unless the irc 
> server is irc.(project domain name here).org then expect it 
> to be staffed by volunteers and people who may not have the 
> same focus as yourself

The CentOS project has cloaks both for team members, and 
trusted sources in IRC nics to address the issue (think of the 
clerk at the local hardware store, wearing a distinctive 
over-vest to mark them ...)  A quick: /whois (nick)  can 
tell a lot

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[CentOS] Sick and wrong!

2010-05-30 Thread R P Herrold
On Sat, 29 May 2010, Jake wrote:

> On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 2:38 PM, David  wrote:
>
>> What's going on?

> I'm going to guess someone snuck in and installed Windows Vista on his
> fully-perfected Gentoo box that he lovingly installed from stage1.

In a side mailing list, KB mentioned that he had been a crime 
victim; no physical injury, but damaging nonetheless

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS with Kernel 2.6.32 built-in

2010-05-30 Thread Adryan Pop
You are right guys. I've installed the rpm only and jme.ko is in my system.
thank you

btw, maybe you know maybe now.

How much time can I use RedHat 6 Beta for desktop?
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Re: [CentOS] IRC telling you to go to mailing list - it's for good reason ....

2010-05-30 Thread Les Mikesell
R P Herrold wrote:
> 
> Drive-bys and externalities are a problem and under the old 
> design the CentOS wiki was not such a pigsty; some other team 
> members lobbied for a less OCD approach on what is in and off 
> topic, and how 'spoon-feeding' was treated. The jury is still 
> out on this new approach in my mind; I know I get push back 
> from old-timers who preferred the higher signal to noise 
> ratio, and want 'quality' back as a preferred metric over 
> 'friendliness' ...
> 

What's a drive-by, and until a post is made and answered somewhere, how is a 
user supposed to know if a failure is caused by something local (mix of 
software, internet infrastructure), one repo mirror, or the basic 
infrastructure?

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[CentOS] IRC telling you to go to mailing list - it's for good reason ....

2010-05-30 Thread R P Herrold
On Sun, 30 May 2010, Les Mikesell wrote:

> What's a drive-by, and until a post is made and answered 
> somewhere, how is a user supposed to know if a failure is 
> caused by something local (mix of software, internet 
> infrastructure), one repo mirror, or the basic 
> infrastructure?

Lemme change hats

Dunno that I know your 'nick', Les, nor have seen contribution 
by you in #centos IRC.  Is the CentOS' re-design on IRC a 
culture you understand via lurking a bit? [Clearly the earlier 
poster I trimmed down to respond to was not, as it clearly 
misstated some CentOS changes from 'bog standard' IRC 
practice]

First order answer:

A drive by is a person who pops into channel, does NOT read 
/topic, does NOT lurk for a minute or two, immediately asks a 
question fragment usually in 'l33t s...@k' or AOLbonics.  They 
will re-ask it 15 seconds later when an answer is not 
immediately offered.  If answered, it will turn out that there 
was some additional backstory such that the drive-by's queston 
was not well formed

Second order answer:

A 'serial' drive by is known by their 'nick' as such by the 
regulars who do the heavy listing in the change of adding 
substantive content, and as such, not treated as a priority to 
answer; Often we will see that 'nick' posting the same 
question as a cross-posting in parallel on several channels, 
or a referral to #centos from side projects of similar import 
or from forks (usually broken ones) unwilling to support their 
load, and so shifting it to us

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Re: [CentOS] IRC telling you to go to mailing list - it's for good reason ....

2010-05-30 Thread Les Mikesell
R P Herrold wrote:
>
>> What's a drive-by, and until a post is made and answered 
>> somewhere, how is a user supposed to know if a failure is 
>> caused by something local (mix of software, internet 
>> infrastructure), one repo mirror, or the basic 
>> infrastructure?
> 
> Lemme change hats
> 
> Dunno that I know your 'nick', Les, nor have seen contribution 
> by you in #centos IRC.  Is the CentOS' re-design on IRC a 
> culture you understand via lurking a bit? [Clearly the earlier 
> poster I trimmed down to respond to was not, as it clearly 
> misstated some CentOS changes from 'bog standard' IRC 
> practice]


I don't use IRC at all - and don't like real-time typing in general.  Email 
seems much more civilized in terms of both giving you time to think before 
typing and being able to interleave with the rest of your life.

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[CentOS] ATI Proprietary Drivers LAG

2010-05-30 Thread Adryan Pop
I've installed CentOS 5.5, fixed my problems with my network card driver,
and and I've followed this:
http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/HardwareList/AtiDriver ,
downladed latest ati driver, restarted, screen resolution is fixed, but
everything lags.

ATI Radeon HD 5470 1GB

this is the output of "lspci -v"

*01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Manhattan [Mobility
Radeon HD 5000 Series] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 1bf2
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 11
Memory at c000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
Memory at d002 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=128K]
I/O ports at d000 [size=256]
Expansion ROM at d000 [disabled] [size=128K]
Capabilities: 
*
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Re: [CentOS] ATI Proprietary Drivers LAG

2010-05-30 Thread Eero Volotinen
2010/5/30 Adryan Pop :
> I've installed CentOS 5.5, fixed my problems with my network card driver,
> and and I've followed this:
> http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/HardwareList/AtiDriver ,
> downladed latest ati driver, restarted, screen resolution is fixed, but
> everything lags.

So, graphics handling is too slow?

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Re: [CentOS] ATI Proprietary Drivers LAG

2010-05-30 Thread Adryan Pop
yes.

On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Eero Volotinen wrote:

> 2010/5/30 Adryan Pop :
> > I've installed CentOS 5.5, fixed my problems with my network card driver,
> > and and I've followed this:
> > http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/HardwareList/AtiDriver ,
> > downladed latest ati driver, restarted, screen resolution is fixed, but
> > everything lags.
>
> So, graphics handling is too slow?
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Re: [CentOS] ATI Proprietary Drivers LAG

2010-05-30 Thread Adryan Pop
How do I force a certain resolution with xorg.conf? I've tried toe dit
modes, but after that xserver doesn't start.

On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Adryan Pop wrote:

> yes.
>
>
> On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Eero Volotinen wrote:
>
>> 2010/5/30 Adryan Pop :
>> > I've installed CentOS 5.5, fixed my problems with my network card
>> driver,
>> > and and I've followed this:
>> > http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/HardwareList/AtiDriver ,
>> > downladed latest ati driver, restarted, screen resolution is fixed, but
>> > everything lags.
>>
>> So, graphics handling is too slow?
>>
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Re: [CentOS] ATI Proprietary Drivers LAG

2010-05-30 Thread JohnS

On Sun, 2010-05-30 at 21:03 +0300, Adryan Pop wrote:
> I've installed CentOS 5.5, fixed my problems with my network card
> driver, and and I've followed this:
> http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/HardwareList/AtiDriver ,
> downladed latest ati driver, restarted, screen resolution is fixed,
> but everything lags.
---
Describe what you mean by lag?  Maybe the Ati site would give a clue
into that have you looked?

Your key here is aticonfig to setup xorg

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Re: [CentOS] ATI Proprietary Drivers LAG

2010-05-30 Thread Yves Bellefeuille
On Sunday 30 May 2010 14:03, Adryan Pop wrote:

> I've installed CentOS 5.5, fixed my problems with my network card
> driver, and and I've followed this:
> http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/HardwareList/AtiDriver ,

Have you tried following AMD's own instructions at 
https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_cat104-inst.pdf
 ? 
They've worked with my Radeon HD 4870.

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Komunikas, n-ro 418.
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5 and seamonkey

2010-05-30 Thread Robert


On 05/29/2010 04:36 PM, Robert informed us:
>
> On 05/29/2010 03:35 PM, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg informed us:
>
>> Robert wrote:
>>
>>  
>>> Has anyone had any success in rebuilding seamonkey 2.0.4 for CentOS 5
>>> (32-bit)?  I'm currently running seamonkey-2.0-1 which I rebuilt last
>>> November. Sadly, I have no idea where the SRPM originated.
>>>
>>>
>> I rebuilt it for x86_64.
>> The SRPM initially came from a link on the seamonkey web site, I think.
>>
>> you can grab it here - it should be there in an hour when the server syncs:
>> http://www-timc.imag.fr/Nicolas.Thierry-Mieg/seamonkey-2.0.4-1.el5ntm.src.rpm
>>
>>  
> Many thanks! That baby has been rebuilt on this machine and I'll install
> it later, after running a couple of errands.
>
O.K., errands finished, the rebuilt rpm installed using yum --nogpgcheck 
localupdate /path/to/rpm with no problems, no dependencies.  Mail, 
preferences, plugins and helpers work as far as I've tested.  And email 
address hinting is fixed! Many thanks..


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5 and seamonkey

2010-05-30 Thread MHR
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Robert  wrote:
>
> O.K., errands finished, the rebuilt rpm installed using yum --nogpgcheck
> localupdate /path/to/rpm with no problems, no dependencies.  Mail,
> preferences, plugins and helpers work as far as I've tested.  And email
> address hinting is fixed! Many thanks..
>

I am glad to hear this, but it really would have been a whole lot
simpler just to install the official release tarball

mhr
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5 and seamonkey

2010-05-30 Thread Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
MHR wrote:
> On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Robert  wrote:
>>
>> O.K., errands finished, the rebuilt rpm installed using yum --nogpgcheck
>> localupdate /path/to/rpm with no problems, no dependencies.  Mail,
>> preferences, plugins and helpers work as far as I've tested.  And email
>> address hinting is fixed! Many thanks..

you're welcome, glad it helped!

> I am glad to hear this, but it really would have been a whole lot
> simpler just to install the official release tarball

rpmbuild --rebuild isn't so complicated, and I find having almost 
everything in rpms is comfortable.
Also, once the rpm is built on one system you can install it everywhere. 
That can be very convenient, depending on how many desktops/laptops you 
have.
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Re: [CentOS] IRC telling you to go to mailing list - it's for good reason ....

2010-05-30 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 8:22 AM, R P Herrold  wrote:

> You omit mentioning that (from tracking latencies to
> appearing) the CentOS site, wiki, MLs, CentOS' planet are all
> regularly trawled by major search engines.  The Forum and the
> bug tracker are also indexed but less often.

Earlier last year, I noticed Google tended to pick up Forum posts than
mailing list posts.  To see if this was indeed the case, I searched
for several terms in Google and compiled the results in my blog:

http://blog.toracat.org/2009/02/search-is-on-getting-help-for-centos/

Sure enough, Google seems to like Forums better than the MLs.  :-P
Because that search was getting rather old (15 months ago), I repeated
the same set of search yesterday.  And the update is here:

http://blog.toracat.org/2010/05/search-is-on-an-update/

Surprisingly, there were very few from the mailing lists in the first
Google 50 hits.  As I mentioned there, the objective of the search is
not to compare which is more "popular" but simply to present the fact
that, when people go to Google and do a simple search, they tend to
see Forum posts.  This in turn means we need to make sure there are no
misleading or inappropriate answers.  So, you can help there, too.

Akemi / toracat
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5 and seamonkey

2010-05-30 Thread Robert


On 05/30/2010 05:43 PM, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg informed us:
> MHR wrote:
>
>> On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Robert   wrote:
>>  
>>> O.K., errands finished, the rebuilt rpm installed using yum --nogpgcheck
>>> localupdate /path/to/rpm with no problems, no dependencies.  Mail,
>>> preferences, plugins and helpers work as far as I've tested.  And email
>>> address hinting is fixed! Many thanks..
>>>
> you're welcome, glad it helped!
>
>
>> I am glad to hear this, but it really would have been a whole lot
>> simpler just to install the official release tarball
>>  
> rpmbuild --rebuild isn't so complicated, and I find having almost
> everything in rpms is comfortable.
> Also, once the rpm is built on one system you can install it everywhere.
> That can be very convenient, depending on how many desktops/laptops you
> have.
>
That, plus, if there are any unsatisfied dependencies, they'll get 
pulled in
from trusted repos.
I'll admit that that is probably unlikely with an updated
CentOS 5 and Seamonkey, but having been burned really bad, trying to cram
CUPS into RedHat 7.2, I try to avoid tarballs unless they're part of a
well-documented procedure such as that published by ATI (AMD) for their
proprietary video drivers. Even then, I elect to create an RPM and
install it.
Old farts gather a lot of paranoias, Marc. Thanks for pushing me off
TDC, though, and thanks even more for the "hung sound" info!


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Re: [CentOS] Broken repo / mirrors?

2010-05-30 Thread ken

On 05/28/2010 11:51 AM m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> Peter wrote:
>> On Friday 28 May 2010, Robert Heller wrote:
>>
> But I get *exactly* the same problem.

I had the same problem too... Friday morning, while trying to get myself
out of town... so I haven't looked into it much.  Just bailed on much of
the upgrade.
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[CentOS] autoexpect?

2010-05-30 Thread hadi motamedi
Dear All
I have received a new centos server that does contain 'expect' but it does
not contain 'autoexpect' . Is there any way to add 'autoexect' to it?
Thank you
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Re: [CentOS] autoexpect?

2010-05-30 Thread Eero Volotinen
2010/5/31 hadi motamedi :
> Dear All
> I have received a new centos server that does contain 'expect' but it does
> not contain 'autoexpect' . Is there any way to add 'autoexect' to it?

yum -y install packagename

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Re: [CentOS] autoexpect?

2010-05-30 Thread hadi motamedi
yum -y install packagename
>
> Thank you very much for your reply. It seems that 'autoexpect' must come
with 'expect' script package . Am I right ?
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[CentOS] hello cents os network proble dk dkim and dlv

2010-05-30 Thread fakessh
hello all reader
hello centos network


I use to bind core fecora 12
http://jason.roysdon.net/2009/10/16/building-bind-9-6-on-rhel5-centos5-for-dnssec-nsec3-support/

I am having problems with my dk and dkim signature of my emails
I have successfully made the process of verification of signatures dnssec
all my domains are correct and good displays on dlv.isc.org
the reason for my problem just the reason that I have updated my postfix
and I have recreated a pair of keys with openssl for dkimproxy

the reason for my questions
one of my domains. in .fr: before validation of signatures by isc dk dkim
said OK
Other areas domains ( other .fr and other .eu ) before validation of
signatures by isc dk dkim said bad


that happens I do not understand


thanks for advice
thanks for help


nb : repondez moi en français sur centos...@centos.org
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Re: [CentOS] autoexpect?

2010-05-30 Thread Eero Volotinen
2010/5/31 hadi motamedi :
>
>
>> yum -y install packagename
>>
> Thank you very much for your reply. It seems that 'autoexpect' must come
> with 'expect' script package . Am I right ?

man yum
man rpm

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Re: [CentOS] autoexpect?

2010-05-30 Thread John R. Dennison
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 05:21:24AM +0100, hadi motamedi wrote:
> yum -y install packagename
> >
> > Thank you very much for your reply. It seems that 'autoexpect' must come
> with 'expect' script package . Am I right ?

"yum provides \*/$foo" where in this case $foo would be the
executable you are looking for.

You can also "rpm -ql $package" to see what is included in
$package.  



John 

-- 
DMR: So fsck was originally called something else.
Q: What was it called?
DMR: Well, the second letter was different.

-- Dennis M. Ritchie, Usenix, June 18, 1998.


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Re: [CentOS] autoexpect?

2010-05-30 Thread hadi motamedi
   "yum provides \*/$foo" where in this case $foo would be the
>executable you are looking for.
>
>You can also "rpm -ql $package" to see what is included in
>$package.
>
>
>
>
> Thank you very much. I got the point .
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[CentOS] IRC telling you to go to mailing list - it's for good reason ....

2010-05-30 Thread R P Herrold
On Sun, 30 May 2010, Akemi Yagi wrote:

> Surprisingly, there were very few from the mailing lists in the first
> Google 50 hits.  As I mentioned there, the objective of the search is
> not to compare which is more "popular" but simply to present the fact
> that, when people go to Google and do a simple search, they tend to
> see Forum posts.  This in turn means we need to make sure there are no
> misleading or inappropriate answers.  So, you can help there, too.

Interesting observation, but the forum content is additive, 
and so filled with blind alleys for a indexing engine that 
cannot distinguish supposition and mistake from authoritative 
content.  Without the editor's pen to excise errors, we just 
have mass there; compare contra the wiki where there is at 
least the possibility of revision [What? R P Herrold liking 
some aspect of a wiki? Is there an impersonation?] and better 
(bug slower) feeding changes through the proper bug tracker 
[so that minor ephemeral edits to not get forgotten] into a 
long lived work (upstream 'man' and 'info' pages, the 
increasingly good upstream manuals)

Also I see a lot of 'boilerplate' in first responses in the 
forums adminishing people to read the instructions, and 
welcoming people which has the effect of increasing bulk but 
not adding light. I do not see merit in the fact that Google, 
for example, has 15000 hits for:
"site:centos.org welcome to the CentOS fora"
... and it is not at all clear that this is the correct plural 
to anyone but a pedant with a bit of grammar school Latin 
willing to confuse non-native speakers of English

-- Russ herrold
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