[CentOS] Centos 5.5 and AMD chipsets.
Hi. I want run Centos 5.5 with mobo ASUS M4A88TD-V Evo/USB3 which have AMD chipset 880G/SB850 Any idea, if kernel in centos 5.5 supports this chipset and SATA HDD will be recognized during install process ? Best regards, I.Piasecki ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Xen guest does not autostart
I have a virtual machine stack which was purely Centos 5.4 the last time I rebooted and experienced this problem: one of the guests does not start automatically after reboot. [r...@farm1 xen]# pwd /etc/xen [r...@farm1 xen]# ls -l auto total 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Dec 11 17:25 name1 -> ../name1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 May 5 21:10 name2 -> ../name2 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Nov 26 11:43 name3 -> ../name3 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 Oct 29 2009 name4 -> ../name4 (I retyped the names there.) [r...@farm1 xen]# ls -l total 88 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 3 15:15 auto -rw--- 1 root root 430 Dec 11 13:14 name1 -rw--- 1 root root 610 May 7 12:07 name2 -rw--- 1 root root 303 Nov 4 2009 name3 -rw--- 1 root root 295 Oct 29 2009 name4 (...) Here is one guest that works: name = "name3" uuid = "958f8695-95e0-b43c-512e-2ca8950d35de" maxmem = 900 memory = 900 vcpus = 1 bootloader = "/usr/bin/pygrub" on_poweroff = "destroy" on_reboot = "restart" on_crash = "restart" disk = [ "tap:aio:/vm/mail3.img,xvda,w" ] vif = [ "mac=00:16:36:4f:d6:11,bridge=xenbr1,script=vif-bridge" ] ~ The next one does not autostart (but starts ok with "xm create name2"). This is the only guest that has two bridges. There is only 500M RAM, but a third guest starts fine with 500M): name = "name2" uuid = "68e33ec6-ef36-9eac-27d7-65a709684551" maxmem = 500 memory = 500 vcpus = 1 bootloader = "/usr/bin/pygrub" # kernel = "/var/lib/xen/boot_kernel.5g5MLq" # ramdisk = "/var/lib/xen/boot_ramdisk.1pSOoP" # extra = "ro root=LABEL=/ console=xvc0" on_poweroff = "destroy" on_reboot = "restart" on_crash = "restart" disk = [ "tap:aio:/vm/mail2.img,xvda,w" ] vif = [ "mac=00:16:36:24:67:3c,bridge=xenbr0","mac=00:16:36:24:67:3d,bridge=xenbr1" ] ~ What might be the problem?? - Jussi -- Jussi Hirvi * Green Spot Topeliuksenkatu 15 C * 00250 Helsinki * Finland Tel. +358 9 493 981 * Mobile +358 40 771 2098 (only sms) jussi.hi...@greenspot.fi * http://www.greenspot.fi ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] AQuA Powered Voice Quality Monitoring Solution
Overview Asterisk-powered dialer software Web Interface UNIX/Linux Cron-based Schedule Logic Open-Source Code Graphing Monitoring Stats MySQL Database for Call Records Current Features Dial by SIP or PSTN - Asterisk base capable of dialing via any medium Blast-Dialing - send multiple calls to 1 trunk for specified duration - No QoS/MOS scoring performed, designed for load testing QoS/MOS Test-Dialing - Ad-Hoc - perform on-demand test dials - Scheduled - unlimited schedules - hardware/software limited - Multiple "Test Applications" Possible: Current system designed to access conference bridge Simple Customized sequencing could allow testing through IVR menus, or other applications as required. - Dial MIRROR/Echo: Each dialer configured to respond to calls from another dialer by CallerID Pre-Deployment Option: Perform simple inter-dialer testing Reporting - Reports performance of scheduled tests over time - Detailed graphs over time MOS, PESQ, R-Value, Volume/Amplitude Difference - Sortable tables of results for all calls - Detailed View of each test call Embedded web player; compare source, reference WAVs Initiate Dials via Web Service - All calls are initiated by HTTP POST (even internally) Upcoming Features Roll-up Reporting Dashboard Scheduled email reports Email notifications - Threshold definitions per schedule, email notifications Read more at: http://www.sevana.fi/aqua-powered-asterisk-voice-quality-monitoring-solution.php ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Calendar server software suggestions
Hello,guys: I've seen several suggestions for alternatives to exchange for mail, which I will be trying. My question is, does anyone know of any good open source shared calendar systems? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.5 and AMD chipsets.
Use the live cd to test? Sent from Android mobile On May 26, 2010 8:16 AM, "Ireneusz Piasecki" wrote: Hi. I want run Centos 5.5 with mobo ASUS M4A88TD-V Evo/USB3 which have AMD chipset 880G/SB850 Any idea, if kernel in centos 5.5 supports this chipset and SATA HDD will be recognized during install process ? Best regards, I.Piasecki ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 17:24 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 5/25/2010 5:09 PM, Whit Blauvelt wrote: > > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 06:05:34PM -0400, Whit Blauvelt wrote: > > > >> where "smb" is RH's version and /etc/init.d/smb is Cent's. I can't quite > >> imagine that a difference between overwriting or appending path.txt is at > >> the root of what I'm seeing though. > > > > Correction: that wasn't a virgin version of Cent's. More in a moment. > > Try changing: > daemon smbd $SMBDOPTIONS > to > strace -f smbd $SMBDOPTIONS > and run it in the way that fails. If there's not enough left on the > screen to see why it died, try > strace -f smbd $SMBOPTION 2>/tmp/smblog > and look at the file reading backwards to find a fatal error. > > I'm still very curious about why it would work when run with 'sh'. > Maybe try an ls -alZ fopr both sh and bash. There may be a suble difference there. If selinux gets in the way for one but not the other there may be something fishy with the selinux settings of the shell (or the /etc/init.d/samba file) Louis ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Resolv.conf being overwritten
Am Donnerstag, den 20.05.2010, 19:02 -0400 schrieb Thomas Dukes: > I am trying to add 127.0.0.1 to my resolv.conf. I added it through the > system-config-network but if I reboot, its gone. I do not have the caching > nameserver package installed. My ISP's nameservers are there. It must have > something to do with DHCP. > > Also, in the network config GUI, should I select the IPv6 option for either > or both network cards? > > TIA > This was discussed here not very long ago. >From /usr/share/doc/initscripts-8.45.30/sysconfig.txt: PEERDNS=yes|no modify /etc/resolv.conf if peer uses msdns extension (PPP only) or DNS{1,2} are set, or if using dhclient. default to "yes". So PEERDNS=no in the right /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg- should be your solution. Chris ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] raid resync speed? - laptop drive-
From: Robert Nichols > Is that one of those WD drives that falsely > reports its physical sector size as 512 bytes? >From the Scorpio blue specs, if I divide the capacity by the number of >sectors, I get 512... JD ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4 - it's that fine SELinux
On May 26, 2010, at 1:44 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > Gordon Messmer wrote: >> >> No. With that file removed, smbd probably wouldn't have been able to >> write to the directory. If it was able to, it probably would have >> run >> into trouble with the next file. If smbd started up in the context >> which was configured for it, everything would work normally. If smbd >> started up in the "unconfined" context, everything would work >> normally >> (but not benefit from SELinux security). The problem appears to be >> that >> smbd was starting in some other context, which you haven't shared. >> >>> Then why was it also happy with "sh /etc/init.d/smb start" but not >>> "/etc/init.d/smb start". I'm happy to become more educated on >>> this. But if >>> invoking a major daemon startup that selinux wants to block is as >>> easy as >>> that, selinux is window dressing, not security. >> >> Your misunderstanding seems to be that SELinux is not intended to >> prevent an attacker who has root privileges on your system from >> starting >> smbd. Instead, it is intended to confine the smbd that the system's >> administrator is running from taking actions which are not allowed by >> policy. > > That still doesn't explain why there is a difference in smbd's > context when its > parent is an explicitly started shell vs. the implict one that > starts when the > script file is executed. Isn't the context associated with the > program itself, > not its parent? Is this documented anywhere? > >> That is to say that SELinux does not "want" to block smbd from >> running. >> SELinux is intended to describe the access that system daemons like >> smbd should have in greater detail than mere filesystem access, and >> to >> confine smbd to that behavior. Whatever you did caused smbd to >> start up >> in some other context (but not unconfined), and was thus confining >> smbd >> to the behavior that was appropriate for some other process. It >> should >> be obvious why that would cause problems. > > From what he has posted so far the "whatever he did" was starting > smbd directly > from a root command line or running the init script with 'sh' or > 'bash'. Why > would that give a different context than running the init script > with the sh. These are excellent questions that I wish I knew. I suspect it all has to do with how selinux associates processes with security contexts, but if someone has a pointer to the details already at hand that would be nice. -Ross ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] raid resync speed? - laptop drive-
John Doe wrote: > From: Robert Nichols >> Is that one of those WD drives that falsely >> reports its physical sector size as 512 bytes? > >>From the Scorpio blue specs, if I divide the capacity by the number of >>sectors, I get 512... > So is there any way to tell the kernel to write 4k at once even after the partitions are aligned right? The size of this thing is really attractive for carrying data offsite and it seemed to "just work" in a windows 2003 server. I don't know the write speed it gets there, but the backup run to it completes overnight. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4 - it's that fine SELinux
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 21:27 -0400, Whit Blauvelt wrote: > But if someone can tell me why selinux thinks it's sane to block > "/etc/init.d/smb start" while leaving "sh /etc/init.d/smb start" and even > /some/random/dir/smb start" wide open ... I just can't believe some happy > hacker at NSA thought that would count as a security scheme. Really, I'd > like to know how this is supposed to be useful. It had good reason to because you did inhereitly edit it as shown by the previous rpm -V. I say you will have more SEL problems if you do not do a full relabel on boot. You really need selinux for samba to prevent buffer overflows. That is how it is usefull. John ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Calendar server software suggestions
sync wrote: > Hello,guys: > > I've seen several suggestions for alternatives to exchange for mail, > which I will be trying. > > My question is, does anyone know of any good open source shared calendar > systems? eGroupware and Horde are popular. I use Horde Webmail Edition which includes e-mail, calendar, shared tasks, etc. eGroupware is pretty nice as well. Regards, Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Unable to execute a script , Permission denied
From: Jatin Davey > I changed the file permissions such that any user > could execute it using the "chmod 777 filename" command. Better use 755... JD ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4 - it's that fine SELinux
JohnS wrote: > On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 21:27 -0400, Whit Blauvelt wrote: > >> But if someone can tell me why selinux thinks it's sane to block >> "/etc/init.d/smb start" while leaving "sh /etc/init.d/smb start" and even >> /some/random/dir/smb start" wide open ... I just can't believe some happy >> hacker at NSA thought that would count as a security scheme. Really, I'd >> like to know how this is supposed to be useful. > > It had good reason to because you did inhereitly edit it as shown by the > previous rpm -V. I say you will have more SEL problems if you do not do > a full relabel on boot. You really need selinux for samba to prevent > buffer overflows. That is how it is usefull. So smbd's context is _supposed_ to be inherited from the init script instead of being inherent to the program itself? And the init script has to be executed directly instead of given to a shell for this to work? Is this documented? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Calendar server software suggestions
Max wrote: > sync wrote: >> Hello,guys: >> >> I've seen several suggestions for alternatives to exchange for mail, >> which I will be trying. >> >> My question is, does anyone know of any good open source shared calendar >> systems? > > eGroupware and Horde are popular. I use Horde Webmail Edition which > includes e-mail, calendar, shared tasks, etc. eGroupware is pretty nice > as well. On a related note, since you're a horde user: my ISP that I have my domain hosted on offers roundcube, squirrelmail, and horde. What I don't like about squirrelmail is that it does *not* do the right thing on a reply: I have to manually put in who wrote the email I'm responding to. Does horde do it correctly? mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Calendar server software suggestions
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > On a related note, since you're a horde user: my ISP that I have my domain > hosted on offers roundcube, squirrelmail, and horde. What I don't like > about squirrelmail is that it does *not* do the right thing on a reply: I > have to manually put in who wrote the email I'm responding to. Does horde > do it correctly? Sounds to me like a configuration issue somewhere. My installation of Squirrelmail fills in the reply to field with no problems. Max ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Unable to execute a script , Permission denied
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Jatin Davey wrote: > On 5/25/2010 6:44 PM, Bowie Bailey wrote: > > Jatin Davey wrote: > > > >> Here is the script that i am trying to execute as a non-root user: > >> > >> #!/bin/sh > >> ps -C java -o thcount> /home/proc_threads/tempfile > >> awk ' { total += $1 } END { print total } ' /home/proc_threads/tempfile > >> > >> here is the output when i try to execute as a non-root user: > >> > >> ./javathreads: line 2: /home/proc_threads/tempfile: Permission denied > >> awk: cmd. line:1: fatal: cannot open file > >> `/home/proc_threads/tempfile' for reading (Permission denied) > >> > > The script is running, but the 'awk' line is failing to read > > /home/proc_threads/tempfile. What are the permissions on that file and > > directory? > > > > > > $ ls -ld /home/proc_threads > > > > $ ls -l /home/proc_threads/tempfile > > > > > > Thanks all > > I finally figured out that the tempfile that i was creating did not have > proper permissions for the script to write into. Now i have fixed it > using the chmod command and it is working fine. > If more than one other user executes this script at the same time, tempfile may be overwritten by the second before the first can run the awk line. Change this to use a pipe. -- Dale Dellutri ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Unable to execute a script , Permission denied
> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Jatin Davey wrote: > >> On 5/25/2010 6:44 PM, Bowie Bailey wrote: >> > Jatin Davey wrote: >> > >> >> Here is the script that i am trying to execute as a non-root user: >> >> >> >> #!/bin/sh >> >> ps -C java -o thcount> /home/proc_threads/tempfile >> >> awk ' { total += $1 } END { print total } ' >> /home/proc_threads/tempfile > If more than one other user executes this script at the same time, > tempfile may be overwritten by the second before the first can run > the awk line. Change this to use a pipe. Good thought. Yes, do. An alternative, if you need the file for some reason, try #!/bin/sh TEMPFILE=/home/proc_threads/tempfile.`date +%Y%m%d%H%M` ps -C java -o thcount> $TEMPFILE awk ' { total += $1 } END { print total } ' $TEMPFILE Note those are backticks around date and its format. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4 - it's that fine SELinux
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 23:36 -0400, Whit Blauvelt wrote: > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 09:09:33PM -0500, Jay Leafey wrote: > > > In your case, there should have been AVC errors showing up in the > > audit log related to smbd. Using restorecon to fix up the security > > context on the files in /etc/samba might have resolved the issue > > quickly... but I guess the trick is having run across it before, eh? > > Thoughtful advice. Thanks. Is there some method to duplicate basic > configuration files across selinux servers without running restorecon for > each set of files that's copied over - that is, to copy them with their > selinux labels intact? > > >From this limited example, it looks like selinux gets in the way of standard > administrative tasks, yet wouldn't be in the way at all of anyone who'd > acquired a shell within which they could run another shell and with that > call whatever program they like. > > I was just reading a review by Freeman Dyson of physicist Steven Weinberg's > new book, Lake Views. Dyson is impressed by Weinberg's argument that for > defense we often go to "glorified technologies" which don't really do for us > what we expect. For example, mounted knights, which were the expensive high > tech approach to war of their time, more often than not lost to peasants > with pikes. The list goes on from there, right up to the present. > > In it's modest way, selinux would fit right into that record. It's complex > and shiney and expensive to maintain (hell, it's competitor is even called > "AppArmour" - armour?). But is it as essentially useless in real combat as > mounted knights were against a line of men with spears? Or as today's > wishful and extravagant missile defense? you can't make a useful argument out of ignorance. If you don't want to use SELinux, then disable it. Otherwise, learn to understand how it operates and deal with it. one certain way to cause issues with SELinux is to copy files created in other directories or other computers onto another computer because it will not have the proper security contexts so the way to fix that is to make sure your policy files are all up to date and then relabel your file system which should set the contexts to their proper labels. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] LSI software raid with centos 5.4
I have been trying to install CentOS 5.4 on a Intel SR1530SHS, Intel >> S3200SH mainboard.. It has a 3 x 1TB sata hotswap drives with LSI software raid onboard. >>> fake-raid alert! >>> I had configured the LSI to have Sata0 and Sata1 with raid 1 and the >> third drive as a hotspare drive. >>> Okay... >>> Format the harddisk and installation was a breeze. The server rebooted >> into a blank screen and the cursor just keep blinking. >>> Drivers for the LSI fake-raid not included in initrd maybe? Please advise. >>> Reinstall and use md raid? >> >> Will I lose the hotswap capability? >> > > That depends on the controller and driver... > > Just what LSI board is this? A 3ware board or megaraid or what?!?! Intel confirmed there is no driver for 5.4. It is meant for 5.1 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] raid resync speed? - laptop drive-
John Doe wrote: > From: Robert Nichols > >> Is that one of those WD drives that falsely >> reports its physical sector size as 512 bytes? >> > > From the Scorpio blue specs, if I divide the capacity by the number of > sectors, I get 512... > all these new 'advanced' drives look to the host like they have 512 byte sectors its just that they pack 8 of them internally into a single 4K sector.if you don't ensure that your partitions start on a 4K (8 sector) boundary, then committed random writes are very slow as your logical file system blocks will span multiple physical sectors ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4 - it's that fine SELinux
> > you can't make a useful argument out of ignorance. You are being religious, and wrong. See below. > If you don't want to use SELinux, then disable it. This is a good idea. Disabling SELinux is the first thing that should be done, since (as this conversation proves plainly) what we don't know CAN hurt us, this is a useful argument arising out of ignorance. > Otherwise, learn to understand how it operates and deal with it. SELinux should (my religion) be disabled by default, and enabled to the degree the victim err administrator understands what to expect when SELinux is enabled, and iff said administrator desires the aforehinted effects. > one certain way to cause issues with SELinux is to copy files > created in other directories or other computers onto another > computer because it will not have the proper security > contexts so the way to fix that is to make sure your policy > files are all up to date and then relabel your file system > which should set the contexts to their proper labels. My religion: 1: Disable SELinux. 2: If you think you need whatever SELinux offers, get a degree in SELinux administration sufficient to understand the ramifications of the (potential) policies. 3: Enable SELinux to the degree needed. I've not yet seen a reason to enable SELinux. Ever. Anywhere. It is *that* badly presented to the administrators who (would) suffer it. It has (for me) broken things that were before working, it has fixed nothing that was before broken, it has been nothing but one more cadre of magicians-of-dubious-value in Pharaoh's Court. *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Installing from USB flash drive
I successfully created an install media on a USB flash drive, but now I have a minor problem installing from it. Whenever I run the installer, it insists on installing grub on /dev/sdb (the flash drive) rather than /dev/sda (the hard drive where I'm installing everything). Is there a way to convince the installer to put grub in the right place? Should I just tell it not to install grub and then do a grub-install from a rescue prompt afterwards? -- Bowie ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Calendar server software suggestions
Zimbra Collaboration Suite OSE ??? MTA, webmail, LDAP backend, Calendar :) - Regards, David -- http://pnyet.web.id -Original Message- From: m.r...@5-cent.us Sender: centos-boun...@centos.org Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 09:57:00 To: CentOS mailing list Reply-To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Calendar server software suggestions Max wrote: > sync wrote: >> Hello,guys: >> >> I've seen several suggestions for alternatives to exchange for mail, >> which I will be trying. >> >> My question is, does anyone know of any good open source shared calendar >> systems? > > eGroupware and Horde are popular. I use Horde Webmail Edition which > includes e-mail, calendar, shared tasks, etc. eGroupware is pretty nice > as well. On a related note, since you're a horde user: my ISP that I have my domain hosted on offers roundcube, squirrelmail, and horde. What I don't like about squirrelmail is that it does *not* do the right thing on a reply: I have to manually put in who wrote the email I'm responding to. Does horde do it correctly? mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] raid resync speed? - laptop drive-
On 5/26/2010 9:52 AM, John R Pierce wrote: > >>> Is that one of those WD drives that falsely >>> reports its physical sector size as 512 bytes? >>> >> >> From the Scorpio blue specs, if I divide the capacity by the number of >> sectors, I get 512... >> > > > > all these new 'advanced' drives look to the host like they have 512 byte > sectors its just that they pack 8 of them internally into a single > 4K sector.if you don't ensure that your partitions start on a 4K (8 > sector) boundary, then committed random writes are very slow as your > logical file system blocks will span multiple physical sectors How can they ever be fast if the OS is writing 512 byte sectors? The drive is going to have to read the 4k sector, merge the update, wait for the disk to spin around and write it back. The read speed seems a match for a desktop Seagate with the same capacity, but writes are about 10x slower, even if I dd to the raw disk which should bypass any partition alignment issues. And unfortunately since I want to store backups on it, the write speed is what matters. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Calendar server software suggestions
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:07 AM, sync wrote: > Hello,guys: > > I've seen several suggestions for alternatives to exchange for mail, > which I will be trying. > > My question is, does anyone know of any good open source shared calendar > systems? > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > > This thread might be of interest to you: http://www.debian-administration.org/article/How_should_I_allow_mail_calendar_and_contact_syncs ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] raid resync speed? - laptop drive-
Les Mikesell wrote: > On 5/26/2010 9:52 AM, John R Pierce wrote: > Is that one of those WD drives that falsely reports its physical sector size as 512 bytes? >>> From the Scorpio blue specs, if I divide the capacity by the number of >>> sectors, I get 512... >>> >>> >> >> all these new 'advanced' drives look to the host like they have 512 byte >> sectors its just that they pack 8 of them internally into a single >> 4K sector.if you don't ensure that your partitions start on a 4K (8 >> sector) boundary, then committed random writes are very slow as your >> logical file system blocks will span multiple physical sectors >> > > How can they ever be fast if the OS is writing 512 byte sectors? The > drive is going to have to read the 4k sector, merge the update, wait for > the disk to spin around and write it back. The read speed seems a match > for a desktop Seagate with the same capacity, but writes are about 10x > slower, even if I dd to the raw disk which should bypass any partition > alignment issues. And unfortunately since I want to store backups on > it, the write speed is what matters. > > well, as long as the writes aren't being 'committed' on every sector, they should be cached long enough for the full 4K block to be filed prior to actually writing to disk. your `dd` command, what did you specify for the block size? try something realistic like 32768 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Installing from USB flash drive
Bowie Bailey wrote, On 05/26/2010 10:59 AM: > I successfully created an install media on a USB flash drive, but now I > have a minor problem installing from it. Whenever I run the installer, > it insists on installing grub on /dev/sdb (the flash drive) rather than > /dev/sda (the hard drive where I'm installing everything). > > Is there a way to convince the installer to put grub in the right > place? If you are installing from a kickstart, or at least preparing the install using KS, yes. In my case it was easy, target of install was an IDE and source usb drive was detected as SCSI, in the kickstart file I was using I set: bootloader --driveorder=hda,sda granted I put that in a file that kickstart included, by building the file in the %pre section of the kickstart, i.e., I ran some detection routines to be sure of what I was putting in there. however for yours, because both show up as sd? you will need to be aware of BIOS/kernel detection order. The detection order may be different between booting the install media bootloader and booting the final system grub. Assuming you are using a kickstart file, you could probably program the %pre to figure out which is which by looking for a known UUID of the USB flash or its file system label and tell grub use anything else it finds first. I believe the final file you would need to look at is /boot/grub/device.map grub and grub-install take options for this file. > Should I just tell it not to install grub and then do a > grub-install from a rescue prompt afterwards? > painful, but possible. Hopefully enough clues to be helpful. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Installing from USB flash drive
> Bowie Bailey wrote, On 05/26/2010 10:59 AM: >> I successfully created an install media on a USB flash drive, but now I >> have a minor problem installing from it. Whenever I run the installer, >> it insists on installing grub on /dev/sdb (the flash drive) rather than >> /dev/sda (the hard drive where I'm installing everything). >> >> Is there a way to convince the installer to put grub in the right >> place? > > If you are installing from a kickstart, or at least preparing the install > using KS, yes. So, if you're *not*, and you just want to install on a new drive, then the Grand Unified Boot Loader religiously won't let you do what you want, since, it's *sure* (the same way M$ is), that it knows how to do this *so* much better than you do, and if you want to do it any other way, why that's the *wrong* way, and will do everything it can to keep you from doing it the "wrong" way. Next time I bounce my system at home, I really ought to plug in /dev/hda again, and maybe I can access stuff on it - I had to physically unplug it, because a straight install *refused* to install the boot record in the MBR on /dev/sda mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4 - it's that fine SELinux
On 05/26/2010 07:40 AM, Craig White wrote: > > you can't make a useful argument out of ignorance. If you don't want to > use SELinux, then disable it. Otherwise, learn to understand how it > operates and deal with it. > > one certain way to cause issues with SELinux is to copy files created in > other directories or other computers onto another computer because it > will not have the proper security contexts so the way to fix that is to > make sure your policy files are all up to date and then relabel your > file system which should set the contexts to their proper labels. > I can make a useful argument from experience. Over the last few years, as Redhat has progressively deployed SELinux, I have had *several* incidents (the most recent only a few weeks ago) where updates to SELinux broke existing, stable, systems. Each time sucking up hours of my time to diagnose and fix. And (as in this incident) there are not always useful error messages to track it with. The *theoretical* system security improvement of SELinux is trumped by the *practical* observation that I have had existing systems broken by SELinux multiple times on the mere handful of systems I have run it on in enforcing mode, but have yet to see a single one of several dozen (all internet exposed) up-to-date *non*-SELinux systems hacked. It is a 'safety' feature that is in practice more dangerous to system stability than what it is trying to fix. It is like having air bags in your car that go off at random times while you are driving: It is NOT acceptable behavior. -- Benjamin Franz ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Calendar server software suggestions
On 05/26/2010 10:07 AM, sync wrote: > Hello,guys: > > I've seen several suggestions for alternatives to exchange for mail, > which I will be trying. > My question is, does anyone know of any good open source shared calendar > systems? > Take a look at Zafara: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Zarafa ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4 - it's that fine SELinux
Benjamin wrote: > On 05/26/2010 07:40 AM, Craig White wrote: >> >> you can't make a useful argument out of ignorance. If you don't want to >> use SELinux, then disable it. Otherwise, learn to understand how it >> operates and deal with it. >> >> one certain way to cause issues with SELinux is to copy files created in >> other directories or other computers onto another computer because it >> will not have the proper security contexts so the way to fix that is to >> make sure your policy files are all up to date and then relabel your >> file system which should set the contexts to their proper labels. > > I can make a useful argument from experience. Over the last few years, > as Redhat has progressively deployed SELinux, I have had *several* > incidents (the most recent only a few weeks ago) where updates to > SELinux broke existing, stable, systems. Each time sucking up hours of > my time to diagnose and fix. And (as in this incident) there are not > always useful error messages to track it with. And the selinux folks (I'm on the fedora selinux mailing list) don't like to accept that *they* have bugs. For example, we're stuck with CA's siteminder (*gag*). Selinux complains about it writing to its own logfile, /var/log/httpd/smwagent.log. The AVI, when I run sealert, tells me to fix it by setting httpd_unified to on. I've done that, numerous times, which tells me that *they* have a logical flaw in their error handling, and it's *not* telling me the correct cause/solution. They didn't suggest I file a bug report when I mentioned it on the list. Maybe I'll do it again mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] raid resync speed? - laptop drive-
On 05/26/2010 10:12 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 5/26/2010 9:52 AM, John R Pierce wrote: >> Is that one of those WD drives that falsely reports its physical sector size as 512 bytes? >>> >>>From the Scorpio blue specs, if I divide the capacity by the number of >>> sectors, I get 512... >>> >> >> >> >> all these new 'advanced' drives look to the host like they have 512 byte >> sectors its just that they pack 8 of them internally into a single >> 4K sector.if you don't ensure that your partitions start on a 4K (8 >> sector) boundary, then committed random writes are very slow as your >> logical file system blocks will span multiple physical sectors > > How can they ever be fast if the OS is writing 512 byte sectors? The > drive is going to have to read the 4k sector, merge the update, wait for > the disk to spin around and write it back. The read speed seems a match > for a desktop Seagate with the same capacity, but writes are about 10x > slower, even if I dd to the raw disk which should bypass any partition > alignment issues. And unfortunately since I want to store backups on > it, the write speed is what matters. According to that page I referenced on ata.wiki.kernel.org, "Most modern filesystems generate 4KiB aligned accesses from the partition it is in." If you get the partition alignment correct, it should "just work" unless something else is getting in the way. When I look at the counts from "vmstat -d" I see that the sector count is indeed 8X the number of I/O requests, but I have no way to see the alignment of those. https://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/ATA_4_KiB_sector_issues -- Bob Nichols "NOSPAM" is really part of my email address. Do NOT delete it. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4 - it's that fine SELinux
> The *theoretical* system security improvement of SELinux is trumped by > the *practical* observation that I have had existing systems broken by > SELinux multiple times on the mere handful of systems I have run it on > in enforcing mode, but have yet to see a single one of several dozen > (all internet exposed) up-to-date *non*-SELinux systems hacked. > > It is a 'safety' feature that is in practice more dangerous to system > stability than what it is trying to fix. It is like having air bags in > your car that go off at random times while you are driving: It is NOT > acceptable behavior. Under CentOS 5.5, and I presume RHEL5.5 too, there is a small improvement in the shape of setroubleshoot-server, it at least gives you improved troubleshooting capabilities. Not that it helps when you upgrade a 5.4 machine to 5.5 and you get no selinux logging whatsoever because setroubleshoot-server wasn't installed during the upgrade. Note to self, need to add it to the minimal-kickstart configurations. --- This message and any attachments may contain Cypress (or its subsidiaries) confidential information. If it has been received in error, please advise the sender and immediately delete this message. --- ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Installing from USB flash drive
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> Bowie Bailey wrote, On 05/26/2010 10:59 AM: >> >>> I successfully created an install media on a USB flash drive, but now I >>> have a minor problem installing from it. Whenever I run the installer, >>> it insists on installing grub on /dev/sdb (the flash drive) rather than >>> /dev/sda (the hard drive where I'm installing everything). >>> >>> Is there a way to convince the installer to put grub in the right >>> place? >>> >> If you are installing from a kickstart, or at least preparing the install >> using KS, yes. >> > > So, if you're *not*, and you just want to install on a new drive, then the > Grand Unified Boot Loader religiously won't let you do what you want, > since, it's *sure* (the same way M$ is), that it knows how to do this *so* > much better than you do, and if you want to do it any other way, why > that's the *wrong* way, and will do everything it can to keep you from > doing it the "wrong" way. > > Next time I bounce my system at home, I really ought to plug in /dev/hda > again, and maybe I can access stuff on it - I had to physically unplug it, > because a straight install *refused* to install the boot record in the MBR > on /dev/sda > Agreed. It's truly obnoxious that we can specify which drive to install the OS onto, but we can't specify where to put the boot loader. What I did was skip the grub install and then install it from the rescue prompt. Unfortunately, this left me with no grub.conf at all, so I had to look at another machine to get the proper format and manually create grub.conf. After that, however, it booted normally. I'm doing a 'yum update' now, which includes a new kernel. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it will update my grub.conf properly. -- Bowie ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] with dovecot deliver amavisd not work
hello all reader hello list hello centos network since I've installed dovecot deliver. e-mails no longer pass through amavisd. amavisd no longer work. c is to say I have no anti-spam and anti virus my postconf and dovecot -n [r...@r13151 ~]# postconf -n alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases , hash:/etc/postfix/aliases alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases , hash:/etc/postfix/aliases body_checks = regexp:/etc/postfix/body_checks.cf broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes command_directory = /usr/sbin config_directory = /etc/postfix content_filter = dkimproxy:[127.0.0.1]:10029 daemon_directory = /usr/libexec/postfix data_directory = /var/lib/postfix debug_peer_level = 2 default_privs = nobody double_bounce_sender = no header_checks = regexp:/etc/postfix/header_checks.cf home_mailbox = Maildir/ in_flow_delay = 10 inet_interfaces = all local_recipient_maps = unix:passwd.byname $alias_maps mail_owner = postfix mail_spool_directory = /var/spool/mail mailbox_command = /usr/libexec/dovecot/deliver mailq_path = /usr/bin/mailq.postfix manpage_directory = /usr/share/man message_size_limit = 2048 mime_header_checks = regexp:/etc/postfix/mime_header_checks.cf mydestination = $myhostname , localhost.$mydomain, r13151.ovh.net mydomain = r13151.ovh.net mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8 ,87.98.186.232 myorigin = $mydomain newaliases_path = /usr/bin/newaliases.postfix queue_directory = /var/spool/postfix queue_run_delay = 200s readme_directory = /usr/share/doc/postfix-2.5.4/README_FILES recipient_delimiter = + relay_domains = sample_directory = /usr/share/doc/postfix-2.5.4/samples sendmail_path = /usr/sbin/sendmail.postfix setgid_group = postdrop smtp_sasl_security_options = noanonymous smtp_sasl_tls_security_options = noanonymous smtp_sender_dependent_authentication = yes smtp_tls_loglevel = 3 smtp_tls_note_starttls_offer = yes smtp_tls_session_cache_database = btree:/var/lib/postfix/smtp_tls_session_cache smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name ($mail_version) smtpd_client_restrictions = permit_mynetworks,reject_unknown_reverse_client_hostname,reject_unauth_pipelining, reject_non_fqdn_recipient , permit smtpd_milters = inet:[127.0.0.1]:10040 smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks permit_inet_interfaces permit_sasl_authenticated reject_unverified_recipient reject_non_fqdn_sender reject_non_fqdn_recipient reject_unknown_sender_domain reject_unknown_recipient_domain reject_unknown_reverse_client_hostname reject_unauth_destination reject_unauth_pipelining reject_rbl_client zen.spamhaus.org reject_sender_login_mismatch check_policy_service unix:postgrey/socket check_sender_access hash:/etc/postfix/check_backscatterer check_sender_access hash:/etc/postfix/check_spamcannibal check_policy_service unix:private/spfpolicy reject_rhsbl_sender dbl.spamhaus.org reject_rbl_client bl.spamcop.net reject_rbl_client cbl.abuseat.org reject_rbl_client b.barracudacentral.org check_client_access hash:/etc/postfix/whitelist reject_rhsbl_helo dbl.spamhaus.org reject_rhsbl_client dbl.spamhaus.org reject_unknown_helo_hostname reject_invalid_helo_hostname reject_non_fqdn_helo_hostname check_client_access pcre:/etc/postfix/ptr-tld.pcre check_client_access cidr:/etc/postfix/sinokorea.cidr check_client_access cidr:/etc/postfix/taiwancidr.cidr check_client_access regexp:/etc/postfix/blacklist_clients check_client_access cidr:/etc/postfix/asian-ip.cidr reject_rbl_client relays.orbs.org reject_rbl_client in.dnsbl.org smtpd_reject_unlisted_sender = no smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes smtpd_sasl_authenticated_header = yes smtpd_sasl_local_domain = $myhostname smtpd_sasl_path = private/auth smtpd_sasl_type = dovecot smtpd_tls_CAfile = /etc/pki/tls/certs/class3.crt smtpd_tls_ask_ccert = yes smtpd_tls_auth_only = yes smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/pki/tls/certs/r13151.ovh.net.crt smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/pki/tls/private/r13151.ovh.net.key smtpd_tls_received_header = yes smtpd_tls_req_ccert = no smtpd_tls_session_cache_database = btree:/var/lib/postfix/smtpd_tls_session_cache smtpd_use_tls = yes soft_bounce = no tls_random_source = dev:/dev/urandom unknown_local_recipient_reject_code = 550 virtual_alias_domains = renelacroute.fr , nicolaspichot.fr , fakessh.eu virtual_alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/virtual virtual_transport = dovecot [r...@r13151 ~]# dovecot -n # 1.2.11: /etc/dovecot.conf # OS: Linux 2.6.24.5-grsec--grs-ipv4-32 i686 CentOS release 5.5 (Final) base_dir: /var/run/dovecot/ log_path: /var/log/maillog log_timestamp: %Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S protocols: imap imaps pop3 pop3s managesieve listen(default): [::] listen(imap): [::] listen(pop3): [::] listen(managesieve): *:2000 ssl_listen(default): *:993 ssl_listen(imap): *:993 ssl_listen(pop3): *:995 ssl_listen(managesieve): ssl_ca_file: /etc/pki/tls/certs/root.crt ssl_cert_file: /etc/pki/tls/certs/r13151.ovh.net.crt ssl_key_file: /etc/pki/tls/private/r13151.ovh.net.key ssl_verify_client_cert: yes version_ignore: yes login_dir: /var/run/dovecot//login login_executable(default): /usr/libexec/dovecot/i
Re: [CentOS] Calendar server software suggestions
On 5/26/2010 8:25 AM, Max Hetrick wrote: > sync wrote: >> Hello,guys: >> >> I've seen several suggestions for alternatives to exchange for mail, >> which I will be trying. >> >> My question is, does anyone know of any good open source shared calendar >> systems? > > eGroupware and Horde are popular. I use Horde Webmail Edition which > includes e-mail, calendar, shared tasks, etc. eGroupware is pretty nice > as well. > If horde will work for you, you might want to look at the ClearOS distribution which comes up with Cyrus imap, horde, and ldap working out of the box (and a bunch of other stuff) with a web management interface. I believe you can also get an outlook connector but there is a per-client license fee for that part. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Calendar server software suggestions
Hi, I think that maybe Zimbra, ClearOS, eGroupware, Zarafa or Horde are a little too much if the only thing you want is to have the calendar. Maybe you should check WebCalendar [1]; its pretty good, allowing you to sync it with iCal/RSS, and a bunch of other things. Of course it all depends on what do you want to do, I mean, if you want something to replace Microsoft Exchange maybe you should check one of the above, but if the only thing you want is a Calendar, then WebCalendar is the tool for the job. [1] http://www.k5n.us/webcalendar.php Bye, Andres On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 5/26/2010 8:25 AM, Max Hetrick wrote: >> sync wrote: >>> Hello,guys: >>> >>> I've seen several suggestions for alternatives to exchange for mail, >>> which I will be trying. >>> >>> My question is, does anyone know of any good open source shared calendar >>> systems? >> >> eGroupware and Horde are popular. I use Horde Webmail Edition which >> includes e-mail, calendar, shared tasks, etc. eGroupware is pretty nice >> as well. >> > > If horde will work for you, you might want to look at the ClearOS > distribution which comes up with Cyrus imap, horde, and ldap working out > of the box (and a bunch of other stuff) with a web management interface. > I believe you can also get an outlook connector but there is a > per-client license fee for that part. > > -- > Les Mikesell > lesmikes...@gmail.com > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Installing from USB flash drive
Bowie wrote: > m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >>> Bowie Bailey wrote, On 05/26/2010 10:59 AM: >>> I successfully created an install media on a USB flash drive, but now I have a minor problem installing from it. Whenever I run the installer, it insists on installing grub on /dev/sdb (the flash drive) rather than /dev/sda (the hard drive where I'm installing everything). Is there a way to convince the installer to put grub in the right place? > Agreed. It's truly obnoxious that we can specify which drive to install > the OS onto, but we can't specify where to put the boot loader. > > What I did was skip the grub install and then install it from the rescue > prompt. Unfortunately, this left me with no grub.conf at all, so I had > to look at another machine to get the proper format and manually create > grub.conf. After that, however, it booted normally. I'm doing a 'yum > update' now, which includes a new kernel. I'm keeping my fingers > crossed that it will update my grub.conf properly. Once it's on, it's fairly stable... though the update of the kernel does *not* always work correctly. With nearly 200 machines that I'm rolling out updates to, not infrequently, I'll see that the default= line in /etc/grub.conf is reset... to the last kernel,rather than the current, or to the debug kernel. I always have to check to verify that it's pointing correctly before rebooting. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Installing from USB flash drive
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Bowie wrote: > > >> Agreed. It's truly obnoxious that we can specify which drive to install >> the OS onto, but we can't specify where to put the boot loader. >> >> What I did was skip the grub install and then install it from the rescue >> prompt. Unfortunately, this left me with no grub.conf at all, so I had >> to look at another machine to get the proper format and manually create >> grub.conf. After that, however, it booted normally. I'm doing a 'yum >> update' now, which includes a new kernel. I'm keeping my fingers >> crossed that it will update my grub.conf properly. >> > > Once it's on, it's fairly stable... though the update of the kernel does > *not* always work correctly. With nearly 200 machines that I'm rolling out > updates to, not infrequently, I'll see that the default= line in > /etc/grub.conf is reset... to the last kernel,rather than the current, or > to the debug kernel. I always have to check to verify that it's pointing > correctly before rebooting. > And, in fact, that is exactly what happened. The default= line was set to 1, so it booted the old kernel instead of the new one. Other than that, it seems to be fine. I wonder what causes that? I've never noticed that behavior in my other systems. (But maybe I should go check now...) -- Bowie ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Calendar server software suggestions
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 5:07 AM, sync wrote: > Hello,guys: > > I've seen several suggestions for alternatives to exchange for mail, > which I will be trying. > > My question is, does anyone know of any good open source shared calendar > systems? I know its not open source, but have you considered Google Apps for Domains? You can get your own gmail/calendar/docs/sites/chat on your own domain.com address for up to 50 people for free. As well as groups/contact sharing/calendar sharing, etc. I originally tried it out just for testing, but I find it much easier/faster than my managing my own hosting. -- Mauriat Miranda http://www.mjmwired.net/linux ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Installing from USB flash drive
Bowie wrote: > m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> Bowie wrote: >> Once it's on, it's fairly stable... though the update of the kernel does >> *not* always work correctly. With nearly 200 machines that I'm rolling >> out >> updates to, not infrequently, I'll see that the default= line in >> /etc/grub.conf is reset... to the last kernel,rather than the current, >> or >> to the debug kernel. I always have to check to verify that it's pointing >> correctly before rebooting. >> > And, in fact, that is exactly what happened. The default= line was set > to 1, so it booted the old kernel instead of the new one. Other than > that, it seems to be fine. I wonder what causes that? I've never > noticed that behavior in my other systems. (But maybe I should go check > now...) I have *no* idea. I've even seen it pointing to 2, or 4. Anyone here have any idea why it wouldn't *always* change the default to 0? mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Amavisd-new from rpmforge and Courier
Does anyone know if the amavisd-new package in rpmforge has the Courier patch installed? -- Bowie ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Installing from USB flash drive
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 14:57 -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Bowie wrote: > > m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > >> Bowie wrote: > > >> Once it's on, it's fairly stable... though the update of the kernel does > >> *not* always work correctly. With nearly 200 machines that I'm rolling > >> out > >> updates to, not infrequently, I'll see that the default= line in > >> /etc/grub.conf is reset... to the last kernel,rather than the current, > >> or > >> to the debug kernel. I always have to check to verify that it's pointing > >> correctly before rebooting. > >> > > And, in fact, that is exactly what happened. The default= line was set > > to 1, so it booted the old kernel instead of the new one. Other than > > that, it seems to be fine. I wonder what causes that? I've never > > noticed that behavior in my other systems. (But maybe I should go check > > now...) > > I have *no* idea. I've even seen it pointing to 2, or 4. Anyone here have > any idea why it wouldn't *always* change the default to 0? > >mark Where did you get the kernel from? There is a reason why I ask this because all installed kernels I have installed that were built by CentOS do the right thing. As in update the boot sequence for you. The exception is The Upstream Real Time Kernel does not do this and is docoed. Now the PAE Kernel I can not speak for because I do not use it. I only utilize the pae form for 32 bit under the RT Kernel which pae is built into for 32bits. John ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Installing from USB flash drive
JohnS wrote: > On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 14:57 -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > >> Bowie wrote: >> >>> m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >>> Bowie wrote: >> >> Once it's on, it's fairly stable... though the update of the kernel does *not* always work correctly. With nearly 200 machines that I'm rolling out updates to, not infrequently, I'll see that the default= line in /etc/grub.conf is reset... to the last kernel,rather than the current, or to the debug kernel. I always have to check to verify that it's pointing correctly before rebooting. >>> And, in fact, that is exactly what happened. The default= line was set >>> to 1, so it booted the old kernel instead of the new one. Other than >>> that, it seems to be fine. I wonder what causes that? I've never >>> noticed that behavior in my other systems. (But maybe I should go check >>> now...) >>> >> I have *no* idea. I've even seen it pointing to 2, or 4. Anyone here have >> any idea why it wouldn't *always* change the default to 0? >> >>mark >> > > Where did you get the kernel from? There is a reason why I ask this > because all installed kernels I have installed that were built by CentOS > do the right thing. As in update the boot sequence for you. > > The exception is The Upstream Real Time Kernel does not do this and is > docoed. > > Now the PAE Kernel I can not speak for because I do not use it. I only > utilize the pae form for 32 bit under the RT Kernel which pae is built > into for 32bits. > The kernel came from the updates repo. I just did "yum update" on a newly installed 5.5 system. The only oddity is that the original grub.conf file was created by hand rather than by anaconda. (Due to anaconda NOT doing "the right thing" when installing from a USB install media) My theory is that the script that updates grub.conf is somehow detecting that the file is not stock and therefore updating the default= line to avoid changing the active kernel. I looked through some of my other machines and was not able to find a single one that had anything other than default=0. -- Bowie ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Installing from USB flash drive
> > On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 14:57 -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> Bowie wrote: >> > m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> >> Bowie wrote: >> >> >> Once it's on, it's fairly stable... though the update of the kernel >> >> does *not* always work correctly. With nearly 200 machines that I'm >> >> rolling out >> >> updates to, not infrequently, I'll see that the default= line in >> >> /etc/grub.conf is reset... to the last kernel,rather than the >> >> current, or to the debug kernel. I always have to check to verify >> >> that it's pointing correctly before rebooting. >> >> >> > And, in fact, that is exactly what happened. The default= line was >> > set to 1, so it booted the old kernel instead of the new one. >> I have *no* idea. I've even seen it pointing to 2, or 4. Anyone here >> have any idea why it wouldn't *always* change the default to 0? > > Where did you get the kernel from? There is a reason why I ask this > because all installed kernels I have installed that were built by CentOS > do the right thing. As in update the boot sequence for you. > We build our own repository directly from an upstream CentOS mirror; in this case, mirror.cc.vt.edu::centos/5.5. The exact same thing happened with 5.4, and with some updates. > The exception is The Upstream Real Time Kernel does not do this and is > docoed. Nope. 64 bit plain, mostly, with an occasional 32 bit, and fewer PAE. No real time. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Installing from USB flash drive
On 5/26/2010 2:37 PM, JohnS wrote: > >>> And, in fact, that is exactly what happened. The default= line was set >>> to 1, so it booted the old kernel instead of the new one. Other than >>> that, it seems to be fine. I wonder what causes that? I've never >>> noticed that behavior in my other systems. (But maybe I should go check >>> now...) >> >> I have *no* idea. I've even seen it pointing to 2, or 4. Anyone here have >> any idea why it wouldn't *always* change the default to 0? >> >> mark > > Where did you get the kernel from? There is a reason why I ask this > because all installed kernels I have installed that were built by CentOS > do the right thing. As in update the boot sequence for you. > > The exception is The Upstream Real Time Kernel does not do this and is > docoed. > > Now the PAE Kernel I can not speak for because I do not use it. I only > utilize the pae form for 32 bit under the RT Kernel which pae is built > into for 32bits. I think this fails where you initially install a non-PAE kernel and later add RAM and change to the PAE version. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Amavisd-new from rpmforge and Courier
Bowie Bailey wrote: > Does anyone know if the amavisd-new package in rpmforge has the Courier > patch installed? > I can't see any indication that it does... http://svn.rpmforge.net/svn/trunk/rpms/amavisd-new/amavisd-new.spec ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Calendar server software suggestions
Mauriat Miranda wrote: > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 5:07 AM, sync wrote: > >> Hello,guys: >> >> I've seen several suggestions for alternatives to exchange for mail, >> which I will be trying. >> >> My question is, does anyone know of any good open source shared calendar >> systems? >> > > I know its not open source, but have you considered Google Apps for > Domains? You can get your own gmail/calendar/docs/sites/chat on your > own domain.com address for up to 50 people for free. As well as > groups/contact sharing/calendar sharing, etc. > > I originally tried it out just for testing, but I find it much > easier/faster than my managing my own hosting. > > I was planning to evaluate devical, but have not tried it yet: http://www.davical.org/ I would welcome comments from anyone with experience with devical. Here's a feature comparison of several calendar implementation, though it looks a little old, based on the versions listed for the various packages. https://wiki.mozilla.org/Calendar:QA_CalDAV_Support I know you asked primarily about calendar servers, but I just thought I'd mention the mailserver that I use. For everything else, I currently run http://www.tummy.com/Products/vpostmaster/ which I like very much. It does not have any kind of calender or contact support, but that can be added seperately. It uses postfix for the underlying mail transport which is very solid and has extensive capability for managing spam attacks and supports many plugins. Vpostmaster implements greylisting, spf checking, spamassasin, clamav, white/black listing. It uses the postgres database. Oh and it also has support for unlimited virtual domains. It includes dovecot pop/imap support and squirrelmail webmail interface. The GUI is quite user friendly and spam control parameters can be customized on a per user/mailbox basis. It's probably most suitable for small to medium size organizations due to the cost of many features implemented in python, though with postfix as the underlying transport, preliminary spam control features, rbl checks, connection rate limiting etc, can easily be implemented at the postfix level. (If a site has big problems with spam attacks, it is desirable to stop them as early as possible, since running lots of python or perl code on huge amounts of spam can bring a server to its knees.) There is already support in the gui to manage parameters which might be read from the database by postfix or a another plugin. A basic install can be done by invoking the installation script on a clean install of CentOS in about 3 minutes. I support about 60 mail users running it in a VMware virtual machine. Nataraj ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Installing from USB flash drive
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 15:07 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 5/26/2010 2:37 PM, JohnS wrote: > > > >>> And, in fact, that is exactly what happened. The default= line was set > >>> to 1, so it booted the old kernel instead of the new one. Other than > >>> that, it seems to be fine. I wonder what causes that? I've never > >>> noticed that behavior in my other systems. (But maybe I should go check > >>> now...) > >> > >> I have *no* idea. I've even seen it pointing to 2, or 4. Anyone here have > >> any idea why it wouldn't *always* change the default to 0? > >> > >> mark > > > > Where did you get the kernel from? There is a reason why I ask this > > because all installed kernels I have installed that were built by CentOS > > do the right thing. As in update the boot sequence for you. > > > > The exception is The Upstream Real Time Kernel does not do this and is > > docoed. > > > > Now the PAE Kernel I can not speak for because I do not use it. I only > > utilize the pae form for 32 bit under the RT Kernel which pae is built > > into for 32bits. > > I think this fails where you initially install a non-PAE kernel and > later add RAM and change to the PAE version. --- How on Gods Green Earth is a STICK OF RAM going to change the damn BOOT Order? PFt my RAID 1ed Memory Just changed my boot order of my grid rack. Let me fix it back in the bios. John ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Installing from USB flash drive
On 5/26/2010 3:17 PM, JohnS wrote: > > And, in fact, that is exactly what happened. The default= line was set > to 1, so it booted the old kernel instead of the new one. Other than > that, it seems to be fine. I wonder what causes that? I've never > noticed that behavior in my other systems. (But maybe I should go check > now...) I have *no* idea. I've even seen it pointing to 2, or 4. Anyone here have any idea why it wouldn't *always* change the default to 0? mark >>> >>> Where did you get the kernel from? There is a reason why I ask this >>> because all installed kernels I have installed that were built by CentOS >>> do the right thing. As in update the boot sequence for you. >>> >>> The exception is The Upstream Real Time Kernel does not do this and is >>> docoed. >>> >>> Now the PAE Kernel I can not speak for because I do not use it. I only >>> utilize the pae form for 32 bit under the RT Kernel which pae is built >>> into for 32bits. >> >> I think this fails where you initially install a non-PAE kernel and >> later add RAM and change to the PAE version. > --- > How on Gods Green Earth is a STICK OF RAM going to change the damn BOOT > Order? > PFt my RAID 1ed Memory Just changed my boot order of my grid rack. Let > me fix it back in the bios. It's not the stick of RAM - it's the fact the the grub conf editing is set up to match your initial kernel type and isn't triggered by the install of the PAE kernel or it's subsequent updates. Look in /etc/sysconfig/kernel. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Installing from USB flash drive
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 15:29 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: > > It's not the stick of RAM - it's the fact the the grub conf editing is > set up to match your initial kernel type and isn't triggered by the > install of the PAE kernel or it's subsequent updates. Look in > /etc/sysconfig/kernel. --- Exceuse the spamming of the list please. Just a point to point out. POC Proven. Maybe add kernel-pae for default. Not to hard to do. Installing one then the other should have no effect in updateing or going back to 'kernel' should have no problem and just update. Mine updated from RT back to Mainline but to go back to defacto RT I will have to edit it. Make any sense? For others that are saying it want update the boot config then you may have something wrong somewhere because it should plain out update it. Repo Mirrored Local yum list kernel ### CentOS Kernel ONLY REPO. I have several repos. CentOS is the defacto repo here. Loaded plugins: downloadonly, fastestmirror, kmod, versionlock Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile Reading version lock configuration Installed Packages kernel.i686 2.6.18-164.9.1.el5 installed kernel.i686 2.6.18-164.10.1.el5 installed kernel.i686 2.6.18-164.11.1.el5 installed Available Packages kernel.i686 2.6.18-194.3.1.el5 updates ## BEFORE ## [r...@ ~]# cat /boot/grub/grub.conf # grub.conf generated by anaconda # # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file # NOTICE: You have a /boot partition. This means that # all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg. # root (hd0,0) # kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 # initrd /initrd-version.img #boot=/dev/hda default=0 timeout=5 splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz hiddenmenu title JE2 Enterprise Linux (realtime) (2.6.24.7-149.el5) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.24.7-149.el5 ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.24.7-149.el5.img title JE2 Enterprise Linux (2.6.24.7-149.el5trace) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.24.7-149.el5trace ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.24.7-149.el5trace.img title JE2 Enterprise Linux (2.6.24.7-149.el5vanilla) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.24.7-149.el5vanilla ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.24.7-149.el5vanilla.img title JE2 Enterprise Linux (2.6.24.7-146.JonE2trace) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.24.7-146.JonE2trace ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.24.7-146.JonE2trace.img title JE2 Enterprise Linux (realtime) (2.6.24.7-146.JonE2) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.24.7-146.JonE2 ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.24.7-146.JonE2.img title CentOS (2.6.18-164.11.1.el5) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.18-164.11.1.el5 ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.18-164.11.1.el5.img title CentOS (2.6.18-164.10.1.el5) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.18-164.10.1.el5 ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.18-164.10.1.el5.img title CentOS (2.6.18-164.9.1.el5) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.18-164.9.1.el5 ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.18-164.9.1.el5.img Install: [r...@ethies ~]# yum update kernel Loaded plugins: downloadonly, fastestmirror, kmod, versionlock Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile Reading version lock configuration Setting up Update Process Resolving Dependencies --> Running transaction check ---> Package kernel.i686 0:2.6.18-194.3.1.el5 set to be installed --> Finished Dependency Resolution Excluding to be erased: kernel-2.6.18-164.9.1.el5.i686 --> Running transaction check ---> Package kernel.i686 0:2.6.18-164.9.1.el5 set to be erased --> Finished Dependency Resolution Dependencies Resolved = Package Arch VersionRepository Size = Installing: kerneli686 2.6.18-194.3.1.el5 updates 17 M Removing: kerneli686 2.6.18-164.9.1.el5 installed 41 M Transaction Summary = Install 1 Package(s) Upgrade 0 Package(s) Remove1 Package(s) Reinstall 0 Package(s) Downgrad
Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4 - it's that fine SELinux
On 05/25/2010 10:44 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > > That still doesn't explain why there is a difference in smbd's context when > its > parent is an explicitly started shell vs. the implict one that starts when the > script file is executed. SELinux domain transitions are handled by the kernel. If you call exec() with a path which has a domain transition specified, the kernel will transition to the specified domain as part of the exec() call. What that means here is that /etc/init.d/smbd has a domain transition specified. If you were to call exec() with that path (as your shell will when you enter that path alone and hit Enter), the kernel receives your exec() request, examines the path given, determines that a transition is defined, and transitions to the new domain as it creates the new process. Now, if you call exec() with /bin/sh as the path and /etc/init.d/smbd as an arg (as your shell will when you enter "/bin/sh /etc/init.d/smbd" and hit Enter), the kernel will check for a domain transition on /bin/sh and load that program. The kernel has no knowledge that sh will load instructions from /etc/init.d/smbd and execute them any more than it would if you were to run "/bin/sh < /etc/init.d/smbd" in a shell. It can't determine that it should transition to the domain on that file, so the process inherits whatever domain called "/bin/sh" (probably the unconfined domain). > Isn't the context associated with the program itself, > not its parent? The context is inherited from the process which calls exec() if there is no transition defined. If there is a transition, it is associated with the path. > Is this documented anywhere? Yes, this is the documented behavior of domain transitions. > >> That is to say that SELinux does not "want" to block smbd from running. >>SELinux is intended to describe the access that system daemons like >> smbd should have in greater detail than mere filesystem access, and to >> confine smbd to that behavior. Whatever you did caused smbd to start up >> in some other context (but not unconfined), and was thus confining smbd >> to the behavior that was appropriate for some other process. It should >> be obvious why that would cause problems. > >From what he has posted so far the "whatever he did" was starting smbd > directly > from a root command line or running the init script with 'sh' or 'bash'. I meant whatever he did to create /etc/init.d/smbd with an SELinux label other than the one that rpm originally placed on it. He wasn't specific about how or where the file was created. It had a label on it which caused a transition to an SELinux domain other than unconfined or the one normally used by smbd. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4 - it's that fine SELinux
On 05/26/2010 07:54 AM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: >> >> you can't make a useful argument out of ignorance. > > You are being religious, and wrong. See below. You also can't make a useful argument out of name-calling. People frequently use the label "religious" derisively when someone advocates a viewpoint without cause or evidence to support it. Craig did nothing of the sort. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Installing from USB flash drive
On 05/26/2010 11:57 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Bowie wrote: > >> m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> >>> Bowie wrote: >> And, in fact, that is exactly what happened. The default= line was set >> to 1, so it booted the old kernel instead of the new one. Other than >> that, it seems to be fine. I wonder what causes that? I've never >> noticed that behavior in my other systems. (But maybe I should go check >> now...) >> > I have *no* idea. I've even seen it pointing to 2, or 4. Anyone here have > any idea why it wouldn't *always* change the default to 0? > > Look at /etc/sysconfig/kernel - it specifies the default kernel type. -- Benjamin Franz ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4 - it's that fine SELinux
On 5/26/2010 5:16 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: > >> Isn't the context associated with the program itself, >> not its parent? > > The context is inherited from the process which calls exec() if there is > no transition defined. If there is a transition, it is associated with > the path. > >> Is this documented anywhere? > > Yes, this is the documented behavior of domain transitions. I meant, is it documented that the domain transitions are specified on the init scripts only, not the actual programs they start? Or is that a quirk of this particular case? It's not unusual at all for an administrator to run the init scripts directly, perhaps with 'sh -x' to see the values that are expanded in the commands. I doubt if many people that trust SElinux would realize that would leave them unprotected. >> >>> That is to say that SELinux does not "want" to block smbd from running. >>> SELinux is intended to describe the access that system daemons like >>> smbd should have in greater detail than mere filesystem access, and to >>> confine smbd to that behavior. Whatever you did caused smbd to start up >>> in some other context (but not unconfined), and was thus confining smbd >>> to the behavior that was appropriate for some other process. It should >>> be obvious why that would cause problems. >> >> From what he has posted so far the "whatever he did" was starting smbd >> directly >> from a root command line or running the init script with 'sh' or 'bash'. > > I meant whatever he did to create /etc/init.d/smbd with an SELinux label > other than the one that rpm originally placed on it. He wasn't specific > about how or where the file was created. It had a label on it which > caused a transition to an SELinux domain other than unconfined or the > one normally used by smbd. My impression was that the usual invocation of /etc/init.d/smbd (via "service" or directly without 'sh ...' _did_ give the expected context and his problems were from files smbd subsequently could not access, whereas running smbd directly or using 'sh ' on the script made it work anyway. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Logrotation with retention period
Hi All, How can it be done it logrotate configuration that I wanted to have the logs in six (6) month retention period? I have the following logs and directories of mysql. [hostname]# ls /var/log/mysql/ 2010.05.01/general.log 2010.05.01/error.log 2010.05.02/general.log 2010.05.02/error.log 2010.05.03/general.log 2010.05.03/error.log Is it possible that the output after doing logrotate could be like the below sample. All compressed logs will be keep until 6 months only. I know there is man page / docs in internet but I can't get the exact configuration to use. [hostname]# ls /var/log/mysql/ 2010.05.01.gz 2010.05.02.gz 2010.05.03.gz 2010.05.27/general.log 2010.05.27/report.log Thank you. Regards, James ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4 - it's that fine SELinux
On 05/26/2010 08:44 AM, Benjamin Franz wrote: > > I can make a useful argument from experience. Over the last few years, > as Redhat has progressively deployed SELinux, I have had *several* > incidents (the most recent only a few weeks ago) where updates to > SELinux broke existing, stable, systems. Each time sucking up hours of > my time to diagnose and fix. And (as in this incident) there are not > always useful error messages to track it with. Except that in this incident, there WERE useful error messages. The OP simply didn't know that he needed to look in /var/log/audit/audit.log. > The *theoretical* system security improvement of SELinux is trumped by > the *practical* observation that I have had existing systems broken by > SELinux multiple times on the mere handful of systems I have run it on > in enforcing mode, but have yet to see a single one of several dozen > (all internet exposed) up-to-date *non*-SELinux systems hacked. You are comparing two unlike things. You can't very well judge the benefits of SELinux based on a system which hasn't needed its protection. > It is a 'safety' feature that is in practice more dangerous to system > stability than what it is trying to fix. I advise administrators to test all updates on non-production systems. SELinux updates are no exception. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] [URGENT] Assistance Requested in Looking for Dr Francis T. Seow, Harvard Law School Research Fellow
Hi, First, I would like to apologize for the out-of-topic post. I will keep this as short as I possibly could. Does anybody know Dr. Francis T. Seow, the former Solicitor-General from the Republic of Singapore? I want to contact him but can't seem to find his email address or telephone number on the internet. Could you help me? Do you also know how I can contact all the justices of the Judicial Committee of the UK Privy Council and all the Lords of the UK House of Lords? According to the UK Parliament website, it says that many Peers do not have public email addresses. I would like to apologize again for using this platform to get my message across as my email accounts may have been compromised. Thank you very much. Yours sincerely, Mr. Teo En Ming Hanyu Pinyin Name: Zhang Enming Facebook: Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Photo (1): http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/7534/enmingteodscf2511.jpg Photo (2): http://i.imgur.com/CLifZ.jpg Mobile Phone (Starhub Pre-paid): +65-8369-2618 Singapore Citizen ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos