Re: [CentOS] 8-15 TB storage: any recommendations?

2010-01-12 Thread Peter Kjellstrom
On Tuesday 12 January 2010, Christopher Chan wrote:
> Keith Keller wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 08:07:17AM +0800, Christopher Chan wrote:
> >> I see that the Areca driver has finally made it into the mainline Linux
> >> kernel. But I wonder how things have improved from this particular case.
> >>
> >> http://notemagnet.blogspot.com/2008/08/linux-disk-failures-areca-is-not-
> >>so.html
> >
> > I can't speak to this, except to point out that it is almost 18 months
> > old, which is quite a long time in kernel development space.
>
> Which is why I am asking.
>
> > With the right incantation, one can call smartctl directly on a drive
> > connected to a 3ware controller, no matter what kind of array it is in.
> > (I believe you can even call it on a drive assigned as a hot spare.)
>
> Which is why I specifically said 'performance wise' as respects 3ware. I
> don't remember anything bad about 3ware stability wise or monitoring wise.

Is that supposed to be a joke? 3ware has certainly had their fair share of 
stability problems (drive time-outs, bbu-problems, inconsistent 
behaviour, ...) and monitoring wise they suck (imho). Do you like tw_cli? 
Enjoying the fact that "show diag" gives you a cyclic text buffer without 
references? etc.

...that said, it's not much worse than the competetion, storage simply 
sucks ;-(

/Peter

> >> Any comments? With 3ware lately not looking so good from comments I have
> >> heard on the list over the past few years performance wise, I wonder how
> >> Adaptec and Areca look now?
> >
> > I've run an exclusively 3ware shop since I ditched my last aacraid
> > machines a few years back.  But with all their issues, I am definitely
> > considering trying Areca on my next server that's not planned to be
> > immediately mission-critical.  (I wouldn't switch back to Adaptec unless
> > I knew their interface tools, and especially their cli, had improved
> > dramatically; the aaccli/afacli interfaces were simply atrocious.)
>
> What issues are you having with 3ware?


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Re: [CentOS] Raising ftp priority?

2010-01-12 Thread John R Pierce
hadi motamedi wrote:
>  
> Thank you for your reply . Can you please help me on the real scenario 
> , as the followings?

if you can't figure it out from the man pages and the hints I gave, hire 
someone who can


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Re: [CentOS] digikam and mp3 sound on RHEL

2010-01-12 Thread Ned Slider
On 01/12/2010 07:28 AM, Kevin Kempter wrote:
> Hi All;
>
> after years of running free Linux distros I've finally come to a place where I
> must have solid stability for my work laptop so I've purchased RHEL
> Workstation.
>
> I like it well enough - however I'd like to install digikam and get my system
> to play mp3's.  I'm thinking I could get both of these from a centos
> repository. What do you'all think?
>
> If so, could someone point me to the correct repo(s) and the packages I'd need
> for playing mp3's?
>

Start here:

http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/MultimediaOnCentOS
http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories
http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories/RPMForge

and please make sure you read up on using 'priorities' before enabling 
3rd party repos:

http://wiki.centos.org/PackageManagement/Yum/Priorities

That should hopefully get you going :)

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Re: [CentOS] update of openssh-server i386 4.3p2-36.el5, dependencies

2010-01-12 Thread Christopher Thorjussen
>On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 8:46 PM, Akemi Yagi
>>On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Filipe Brandenburger
>> wrote:
>>
>> This ecryptfs-utils 75-5.el5 is actually a backport of a RHEL 5.4
>> package that was released early for being a "critical" security
>> update. I have no idea if the issue will be fixed when CentOS 5.4 is
>> released (maybe libtspi.so.1 will be owned by another package that
>> obsoletes trousers? maybe trousers will no longer contain binaries
>> that use GUI libraries and those will be moved to a separate
>> package?), if someone has a RHEL 5.4 around they could maybe try to
>> confirm that.
>
>I'm afraid the situation is the same with RHEL 5.4.  trousers
>(0.3.1-4.el5) has no update in 5.4.
>
>Akemi

Have anyone got this solved yet? I've googled and googled and no solution. I've 
got 6 CentOS 5.3 servers I'd like to update, but I've put it off since 
ecryptfs-utils wants to install a bunch of packages when I do a 'yum update'.

A 'yum update' gives me this summary, with 61 new packages to install:

Transaction Summary
=
Install 61 Package(s)
Update 110 Package(s)
Remove   0 Package(s)

Total download size: 192 M
Is this ok [y/N]: n
Exiting on user Command


Just checking 'yum update ecryptfs-utils' gives me alone 54 packages to install:

Transaction Summary
=
Install 54 Package(s)
Update   5 Package(s)
Remove   0 Package(s)

Total download size: 25 M
Is this ok [y/N]: n
Exiting on user Command

Is there no way out of getting all these extra packages?

A list of all the packets can be found listed in this forumthread:
http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?session=&showtopic=1167172&view=findpost&p=15008636

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Re: [CentOS] 8-15 TB storage: any recommendations?

2010-01-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 12/01/10 00:02, Christopher Chan wrote:
>> problems mostly centered around management and performance issues. the 
>> world is littered with stores of cciss fail
> Really? Man, I have been given this spanking new HP DL370 G6 and running 
> Centos 5.4 on it...

I've got a couple of DL380's at one setup and another 12 DL360's at
another place. We have had enough problems with interfaces that all the
machines are now running off remote-storage. Our storage incident rate
has gone from 1/day average to under 2/month since then.

all of these machines are G4 and G5's running CentOS-5/x86_64

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Re: [CentOS] 8-15 TB storage: any recommendations?

2010-01-12 Thread John R Pierce
Karanbir Singh wrote:
> On 12/01/10 00:02, Christopher Chan wrote:
>   
>>> problems mostly centered around management and performance issues. the 
>>> world is littered with stores of cciss fail
>>>   
>> Really? Man, I have been given this spanking new HP DL370 G6 and running 
>> Centos 5.4 on it...
>> 
>
> I've got a couple of DL380's at one setup and another 12 DL360's at
> another place. We have had enough problems with interfaces that all the
> machines are now running off remote-storage. Our storage incident rate
> has gone from 1/day average to under 2/month since then.
>
> all of these machines are G4 and G5's running CentOS-5/x86_64
>   

just curious, which storage controllers in those DL380/360 servers?  
each of those numbes describes like 6 generations of x86 servers.

if I want a lots-of-2.5" SAS dual e5500 kinda server, where should I go 
if HP's storage is so broken?
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[CentOS] VMWare server 2

2010-01-12 Thread attila.mathe
Hi All,


I have installed VMWare 2.0.2-203138_x64 on a CentOS 5.4 x64.
Everything appears to work fine. 
I can create the virtual machine but when I power it on the whole vmware
web access is unreachable on default port 8222/8333.

[r...@panda]# uname -a
Linux Panda 2.6.18-164.10.1.el5 #1 SMP Thu Jan 7 19:54:26 EST 2010
x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux



Does anybody know if there is a compatibility problem with the new
kernel 2.6.180164.10.1  ?

[r...@panda vmware-server-distrib]# /usr/bin/vmware
@@PRODUCT_NAME@@ is installed, but it has not been (correctly)
configured
for the running kernel. To (re-)configure it, invoke the
following command: /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl.


Has anyone else experienced this issue? If so have you found a fix?


Thx,
A.

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Re: [CentOS] VMWare server 2

2010-01-12 Thread Eero Volotinen
Quoting attila.ma...@orange-ftgroup.com:

> Hi All,
>
>
> I have installed VMWare 2.0.2-203138_x64 on a CentOS 5.4 x64.
> Everything appears to work fine.
> I can create the virtual machine but when I power it on the whole vmware
> web access is unreachable on default port 8222/8333.
>
> [r...@panda]# uname -a
> Linux Panda 2.6.18-164.10.1.el5 #1 SMP Thu Jan 7 19:54:26 EST 2010
> x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>
>
>
> Does anybody know if there is a compatibility problem with the new
> kernel 2.6.180164.10.1  ?
>
> [r...@panda vmware-server-distrib]# /usr/bin/vmware
> @@PRODUCT_NAME@@ is installed, but it has not been (correctly)
> configured
> for the running kernel. To (re-)configure it, invoke the
> following command: /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl.
>
>
> Has anyone else experienced this issue? If so have you found a fix?

did you run the command /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl ?

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Re: [CentOS] VMWare server 2

2010-01-12 Thread attila.mathe
Yep, here's the output:

[r...@panda vmware-server-distrib]# /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl
Making sure services for VMware Server are stopped.

Stopping VMware autostart virtual machines:
   Virtual machines[FAILED]
Stopping VMware management services:
   VMware Virtual Infrastructure Web Access
   VMware Server Host Agent[FAILED]
Stopping VMware services:
   VMware Authentication Daemon[  OK  ]
   VM communication interface socket family:   [  OK  ]
   Virtual machine communication interface [  OK  ]
   Virtual machine monitor [  OK  ]
   Bridged networking on /dev/vmnet0   [  OK  ]
   Host network detection  [  OK  ]
   DHCP server on /dev/vmnet1  [  OK  ]
   Host-only networking on /dev/vmnet1 [  OK  ]
   DHCP server on /dev/vmnet8  [  OK  ]
   NAT service on /dev/vmnet8  [  OK  ]
   Host-only networking on /dev/vmnet8 [  OK  ]
   Virtual ethernet[FAILED]
Unable to stop services for VMware Server

Execution aborted.

I'm not able to stop the vm machines or restart the web access, just by
killing all vmware related pid's.

A


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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf Of Eero Volotinen
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 11:31 AM
To: centos@centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] VMWare server 2

Quoting attila.ma...@orange-ftgroup.com:

> Hi All,
>
>
> I have installed VMWare 2.0.2-203138_x64 on a CentOS 5.4 x64.
> Everything appears to work fine.
> I can create the virtual machine but when I power it on the whole
vmware
> web access is unreachable on default port 8222/8333.
>
> [r...@panda]# uname -a
> Linux Panda 2.6.18-164.10.1.el5 #1 SMP Thu Jan 7 19:54:26 EST 2010
> x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>
>
>
> Does anybody know if there is a compatibility problem with the new
> kernel 2.6.180164.10.1  ?
>
> [r...@panda vmware-server-distrib]# /usr/bin/vmware
> @@PRODUCT_NAME@@ is installed, but it has not been (correctly)
> configured
> for the running kernel. To (re-)configure it, invoke the
> following command: /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl.
>
>
> Has anyone else experienced this issue? If so have you found a fix?

did you run the command /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl ?

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Re: [CentOS] 8-15 TB storage: any recommendations?

2010-01-12 Thread Peter Kjellstrom
On Tuesday 12 January 2010, John R Pierce wrote:
> Karanbir Singh wrote:
> > On 12/01/10 00:02, Christopher Chan wrote:
> >>> problems mostly centered around management and performance issues. the
> >>> world is littered with stores of cciss fail
> >>
> >> Really? Man, I have been given this spanking new HP DL370 G6 and running
> >> Centos 5.4 on it...
> >
> > I've got a couple of DL380's at one setup and another 12 DL360's at
> > another place. We have had enough problems with interfaces that all the
> > machines are now running off remote-storage. Our storage incident rate
> > has gone from 1/day average to under 2/month since then.
> >
> > all of these machines are G4 and G5's running CentOS-5/x86_64
>
> just curious, which storage controllers in those DL380/360 servers?
> each of those numbes describes like 6 generations of x86 servers.
>
> if I want a lots-of-2.5" SAS dual e5500 kinda server, where should I go
> if HP's storage is so broken?

As I replied to another post, I think it's unfair to say that HP storage is 
broken. We have roughly:
 30 p400 (mostly 2x raid1)
 50 p800 (mostly 12x1T raid6)
 <10 other cciss

and the only problems we really suffer is:
 * performance is not great
 * /dev/cciss is not a scsi dev (which is a minor annoyance in linux at times)
 * 1T seagate drives fail at many times the rate of hitachi

/Peter 


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Re: [CentOS] 8-15 TB storage: any recommendations?

2010-01-12 Thread John Doe
From: Karanbir Singh 
> On 12/01/10 00:02, Christopher Chan wrote:
> >> problems mostly centered around management and performance issues. the 
> >> world is littered with stores of cciss fail
> > Really? Man, I have been given this spanking new HP DL370 G6 and running 
> > Centos 5.4 on it...
> I've got a couple of DL380's at one setup and another 12 DL360's at
> another place. We have had enough problems with interfaces that all the
> machines are now running off remote-storage. Our storage incident rate
> has gone from 1/day average to under 2/month since then.
> 
> all of these machines are G4 and G5's running CentOS-5/x86_64

On the other hand, here, we have around 30 HP servers.
Some DL360/380/180 G5/G6 with CentOS 4/5 and, 
in 2 years, only 3 drives failed...  That's it; no other problems...

JD


  
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Re: [CentOS] 8-15 TB storage: any recommendations?

2010-01-12 Thread Chan Chung Hang Christopher
Karanbir Singh wrote:
> On 12/01/10 00:02, Christopher Chan wrote:
>>> problems mostly centered around management and performance issues. the 
>>> world is littered with stores of cciss fail
>> Really? Man, I have been given this spanking new HP DL370 G6 and running 
>> Centos 5.4 on it...
> 
> I've got a couple of DL380's at one setup and another 12 DL360's at
> another place. We have had enough problems with interfaces that all the
> machines are now running off remote-storage. Our storage incident rate
> has gone from 1/day average to under 2/month since then.
> 
> all of these machines are G4 and G5's running CentOS-5/x86_64
> 

Eeek! That thing will be hosting the school's vle. Looks like I better 
memorize the after hours password for HP support.

What problems did you have? Do they occur mostly when the boxes are 
under high I/O load?

This is really new to me as I had no problems with a DL360 G3 box that 
ran Windows 2000 and Exchange 2000 with regards to disk problems in my 
previous job.
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Re: [CentOS] 8-15 TB storage: any recommendations?

2010-01-12 Thread Per Qvindesland
Hi

Appologies I have not been following the thread here so am just
wondering if you have a MSA, EVA, XP left hand san or if this is just
storage that sits on the server with samba share? also what link is
between fc or ethernet.

Regards
Per Qvindesland

At Tisdag, 12-01-2010 on 11:57 "Chan Chung Hang Christopher"  wrote:

Karanbir Singh wrote:
> On 12/01/10 00:02, Christopher Chan wrote:
>>> problems mostly centered around management and performance issues.
the 
>>> world is littered with stores of cciss fail
>> Really? Man, I have been given this spanking new HP DL370 G6 and
running 
>> Centos 5.4 on it...
> 
> I've got a couple of DL380's at one setup and another 12 DL360's at
> another place. We have had enough problems with interfaces that all
the
> machines are now running off remote-storage. Our storage incident
rate
> has gone from 1/day average to under 2/month since then.
> 
> all of these machines are G4 and G5's running CentOS-5/x86_64
> 

Eeek! That thing will be hosting the school's vle. Looks like I better

memorize the after hours password for HP support.

What problems did you have? Do they occur mostly when the boxes are 
under high I/O load?

This is really new to me as I had no problems with a DL360 G3 box that

ran Windows 2000 and Exchange 2000 with regards to disk problems in my

previous job.
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Re: [CentOS] 8-15 TB storage: any recommendations?

2010-01-12 Thread Benjamin Donnachie
2010/1/12 Chan Chung Hang Christopher :
> Eeek! That thing will be hosting the school's vle. Looks like I better
> memorize the after hours password for HP support.

I have had lots[1] of problems lately with DIMMs becoming defective in
six month old G5 HPs.  Could just be bad luck or maybe just put
together by someone wearing a shell suit.

Ben

[1] Okay, three or four defective modules all in the space of a month.
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Re: [CentOS] VMWare server 2

2010-01-12 Thread Ralph Angenendt
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 11:27 AM,   wrote:
> I have installed VMWare 2.0.2-203138_x64 on a CentOS 5.4 x64.
> Everything appears to work fine.

What does that mean? Does it work fine or does it only pretend to work (fine)?

> I can create the virtual machine but when I power it on the whole vmware
> web access is unreachable on default port 8222/8333.

SELinux is in which state?

Regards,

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Re: [CentOS] 8-15 TB storage: any recommendations?

2010-01-12 Thread Chan Chung Hang Christopher

>> Which is why I specifically said 'performance wise' as respects 3ware. I
>> don't remember anything bad about 3ware stability wise or monitoring wise.
> 
> Is that supposed to be a joke? 3ware has certainly had their fair share of 
> stability problems (drive time-outs, bbu-problems, inconsistent 
> behaviour, ...) and monitoring wise they suck (imho). Do you like tw_cli? 
> Enjoying the fact that "show diag" gives you a cyclic text buffer without 
> references? etc.

Oh, I did not hear of those and my last experience with 3ware was up to 
the 95xx series. I did hear of horror stories of Mylex but I myself 
never got to see one of those where the raid configuration would 
completely disappear. Most of my experience with 3ware is with the 75xx 
and 85xx cards which are only good for raid1+0 unless you can afford the 
major performance hit with raid5.

> 
> ...that said, it's not much worse than the competetion, storage simply 
> sucks ;-(

So you are saying people dole out huge amounts of money for rubbish? 
That the software raid people were and have always been right?
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Re: [CentOS] 8-15 TB storage: any recommendations?

2010-01-12 Thread Chan Chung Hang Christopher
Benjamin Donnachie wrote:
> 2010/1/12 Chan Chung Hang Christopher :
>> Eeek! That thing will be hosting the school's vle. Looks like I better
>> memorize the after hours password for HP support.
> 
> I have had lots[1] of problems lately with DIMMs becoming defective in
> six month old G5 HPs.  Could just be bad luck or maybe just put
> together by someone wearing a shell suit.

Boy, a Tyan or Supermicro solution is looking better by the minute for 
the new server I plan to get the school for its library server and other 
uses. If only Supermicro had a local distributor...I have not had a good 
look at their solutions yet because of that but their 45 disk case has 
got my attention.
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Re: [CentOS] 8-15 TB storage: any recommendations?

2010-01-12 Thread Rainer Duffner
Am 12.01.2010 09:01, schrieb Peter Kjellstrom:
>
> Is that supposed to be a joke? 3ware has certainly had their fair share of 
> stability problems (drive time-outs, bbu-problems, inconsistent 
> behaviour, ...) and monitoring wise they suck (imho). Do you like tw_cli? 
> Enjoying the fact that "show diag" gives you a cyclic text buffer without 
> references? etc.
>
> ...that said, it's not much worse than the competetion, storage simply 
> sucks ;-(
>
>   



Which is probably the reason why the ZFS-folks are trying to move as
much intelligence out of the HBA into the OS.


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Re: [CentOS] 8-15 TB storage: any recommendations?

2010-01-12 Thread Chan Chung Hang Christopher
Per Qvindesland wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Appologies I have not been following the thread here so am just
> wondering if you have a MSA, EVA, XP left hand san or if this is just
> storage that sits on the server with samba share? also what link is
> between fc or ethernet.

If you are asking me, then there is no external direct attach storage. 
HQ (Bradbury School is an ESF school) provided the thing and it has two 
disks in mirror mode for a db and four disks in raid5 mode for system 
and the vle (customized moodle) with a 512 MB BBU module for the P410i 
controller. They added a 4-port Intel Gigabit adapter too but that is of 
no consequence with storage right now.

> 
> Regards
> Per Qvindesland
> 
> At Tisdag, 12-01-2010 on 11:57 "Chan Chung Hang Christopher"  wrote:
> 
> Karanbir Singh wrote:
>> On 12/01/10 00:02, Christopher Chan wrote:
 problems mostly centered around management and performance issues.
> the 
 world is littered with stores of cciss fail
>>> Really? Man, I have been given this spanking new HP DL370 G6 and
> running 
>>> Centos 5.4 on it...
>> I've got a couple of DL380's at one setup and another 12 DL360's at
>> another place. We have had enough problems with interfaces that all
> the
>> machines are now running off remote-storage. Our storage incident
> rate
>> has gone from 1/day average to under 2/month since then.
>>
>> all of these machines are G4 and G5's running CentOS-5/x86_64
>>
> 
> Eeek! That thing will be hosting the school's vle. Looks like I better
> 
> memorize the after hours password for HP support.
> 
> What problems did you have? Do they occur mostly when the boxes are 
> under high I/O load?
> 
> This is really new to me as I had no problems with a DL360 G3 box that
> 
> ran Windows 2000 and Exchange 2000 with regards to disk problems in my
> 
> previous job.
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[CentOS] Are SSD disks worth the cost for server usage?

2010-01-12 Thread Mathieu Baudier
Hi,

we want to upgrade our infrastructure and are considering renting two
different types of server by a provider:

- A: one is with 80 GB SSD (and 12 GB memory)
http://www.ovh.co.uk/products/eg_ssd.xml
- B: the other with 750 GB SATA2 (and 8 GB memory).
http://www.ovh.co.uk/products/eg_best_of.xml

The target infrastructure will host:
- a few public web sites (PHP / MySQL)
- a development infrastructure (subversion, bugzilla, automated builds)

This will use KVM virtualization with Cent OS 5.4 hosts and guests.

On the long run we will probably rent quite a few of type B depending
on our needs of space and computing power.

My question is whether it is worth using one of type A (with SSD
drives) in order to host the critical data such as the web sites and
the subversion repository (critical in the sense that these services
should be fast, always available, and the related data as safe as
possible).

This critical server will be more read oriented than write.
We will probably use a hardware RAID 1 with battery backed unit on it.

My understanding is that SSD are much much faster.
Is it really true in the real world?

Are SSD drives also safer?
(that is, less likely to crash under load)
Or to the contrary?

I have read/heard conflicting opinions so far and I'll be happy to
hear opinions/experiences on SSD drives in a server settings from
people on the list.
More general comments about our plans are always welcome of course!

Cheers,

Mathieu

PS: we will actually rent them in France, but I put links to the
equivalent in Britain in order to have the description in English.
For reference and for the French-speaking people, here are the actual
servers we consider:
http://www.ovh.com/fr/produits/eg_ssd.xml
http://www.ovh.com/fr/produits/eg_best_of.xml
(they are exactly the same)
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[CentOS] need Centos5.4 url download

2010-01-12 Thread Anas Alnaffar
>From where can I download Centos5.4 

Thanks 

 

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Re: [CentOS] need Centos5.4 url download

2010-01-12 Thread Pintér Tibor
Anas Alnaffar wrote:
>  From where can I download Centos5.4
> 
> Thanks

http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=30

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Re: [CentOS] VMWare server 2

2010-01-12 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 2:27 AM,   wrote:
> Hi All,
>
>
> I have installed VMWare 2.0.2-203138_x64 on a CentOS 5.4 x64.
> Everything appears to work fine.
> I can create the virtual machine but when I power it on the whole vmware
> web access is unreachable on default port 8222/8333.

There is a known issue with VMware Server 2.0.x and CentOS 5.4 as reported here:

http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=3884

A workaround can be found there.

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Re: [CentOS] need Centos5.4 url download

2010-01-12 Thread Anas Alnaffar
Thanks a lot 

Anas 

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>  From where can I download Centos5.4
> 
> Thanks

http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=30

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Re: [CentOS] VMWare server 2

2010-01-12 Thread Kwan Lowe
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Akemi Yagi  wrote:

>> I have installed VMWare 2.0.2-203138_x64 on a CentOS 5.4 x64.
>> Everything appears to work fine.
>> I can create the virtual machine but when I power it on the whole vmware
>> web access is unreachable on default port 8222/8333.
>
> There is a known issue with VMware Server 2.0.x and CentOS 5.4 as reported 
> here:
>
> http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=3884
>
> A workaround can be found there.

The workaround resolved a similar issue on my system..

BTW, you may also need to configure the firewall to allow 8222/8333
through via system-config-securitylevel
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Re: [CentOS] digikam and mp3 sound on RHEL

2010-01-12 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Kevin Kempter
 wrote:

> I like it well enough - however I'd like to install digikam and get my system
> to play mp3's.  I'm thinking I could get both of these from a centos
> repository. What do you'all think?

There is a known issue (and a workaround) with digikam at the moment.
You can find more details here:

http://lists.rpmforge.net/pipermail/users/2010-January/002854.html

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Re: [CentOS] Setup multiple bridges for use with KVM

2010-01-12 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Jacob Hydeman wrote on Mon, 11 Jan 2010 10:50:17 -0800:

> I've setup just the IPADDR= and NETMASK= to have different static IPs in
> different subnets and changed to the BOOTPROTO=static in each of the
> ifcfg-brX scripts.
> 
> This hasn't fixed my issue. Perhaps it's because of the way I'm trying to
> use it (or I don't get it). Does each VM that is using a specific bridged
> device need to have the same IP subnet as that of the static brX address?

No. But you have to tell via config (I don't know how KVM does this) which 
bridge the VM is going to use. And if you want it to be reachable via two 
bridges you have to set it up for two bridges and give it two IP numbers. 
And the packet then has to come in thru the correct interface/bridge, there 
is no "bridging" between the bridges. You would need to set up some 
additional routing to work around this (probably, I'm not a routing 
expert).

Is that possibly not the case? e.g. your VMs are still setup to use only 
one bridge?



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Re: [CentOS] 8-15 TB storage: any recommendations?

2010-01-12 Thread Benjamin Donnachie
2010/1/12 Chan Chung Hang Christopher :
> Boy, a Tyan or Supermicro solution is looking better by the minute for
> the new server I plan to get the school for its library server and other
> uses. If only Supermicro had a local distributor...I have not had a good
> look at their solutions yet because of that but their 45 disk case has
> got my attention.

To HP's credit, I had replacements within hours but we are on their
24x7x4 support contract.

Ben
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[CentOS] Strange problem updating machine

2010-01-12 Thread Marcelo M. Garcia
Hi

Today I updated one machine with CentOS-5.4 (2.6.18-164.6.1.el5) x86_64 
(Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X5450 @ 3.00GHz) to "2.6.18-164.10.1.el5", but in 
some places, like /boot[1] and in the menu /boot/grub/menu.lst[2], 
appeared as 2.6.18-164.1.10 - the "1" and the "10" swapped.

Did anybody else had similar problems? The update worked fine in i686 
workstation and x86_64 xen kernels.

Thanks

Marcelo

[1]
config-2.6.18-128.1.10.el5
initrd-2.6.18-128.10.1.el5.img
vmlinuz-2.6.18-128.1.10.el5
System.map-2.6.18-128.1.10.el5

[2]
title CentOS (2.6.18-128.1.10.el5)
 root (hd0,0)
 kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.18-128.1.10.el5 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet
 initrd /initrd-2.6.18-128.1.10.el5.img


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Re: [CentOS] Are SSD disks worth the cost for server usage?

2010-01-12 Thread m . roth
> Hi,
>
> we want to upgrade our infrastructure and are considering renting two
> different types of server by a provider:
>
> - A: one is with 80 GB SSD (and 12 GB memory)
> http://www.ovh.co.uk/products/eg_ssd.xml
> - B: the other with 750 GB SATA2 (and 8 GB memory).
> http://www.ovh.co.uk/products/eg_best_of.xml

> My question is whether it is worth using one of type A (with SSD
> drives) in order to host the critical data such as the web sites and
> the subversion repository (critical in the sense that these services
> should be fast, always available, and the related data as safe as
> possible).

The real question is how many hits/hour you expect. I interviewed last
year at a major advertiser... but (and I'm trying to remember from last
May) they were getting hundreds of millions of hits per day.

For tens or hundreds of thousands, the normal drives are more than fine.
That, of course, also depends on the sites: in early '03, I looked at a
small site, and the guy's web pages took *forever* to load... but that was
because he'd taken photos of his work, and each page had something like
four or six photos, each of which was 1.5M-4M.

> My understanding is that SSD are much much faster.
> Is it really true in the real world?
>
> Are SSD drives also safer?
> (that is, less likely to crash under load)
> Or to the contrary?

The enterprise grade ones. And, if they're not enterprise grade, and the
provider's cheaping out and using the kind sold in stores, they're not as
reliable. If this is that important, I trust you're looking at SLA in the
contract.

mark

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Re: [CentOS] Vmware server 2.0.2 and Centos 5.4

2010-01-12 Thread Brian Mathis
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Akemi Yagi  wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 7:02 AM, Tom Bishop  wrote:
>> I know of the issue using vmware server 2.0.2 and centos 5.4, but is their
>> any reason not to use the .rpm install of  for centos?  I have always used
>> the .tar file but this time used the rpm and it appeared to install and not
>> crash.  I went ahead and did the glib correction but I was wondering if
>> using the rpm was not the rght thing to do, Thanks.
>
> I personally do not see anything wrong with using the rpm to install
> VMware Server.
>
> Akemi

Installing things from RPM is half the point of running an enterprise
OS.  If you install from TAR, the package system cannot track it.

Installing from PRM is not "lazy", it is in fact what you're supposed
to be doing.
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Re: [CentOS] Strange problem updating machine

2010-01-12 Thread Kai Schaetzl
those are 128 figures, a 5.3 kernel.

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[CentOS] I can't start the SVN server at the boot on CentOS

2010-01-12 Thread Anas Alnaffar
I have just installed an SVN server on a CentOS 5.4 machine.
how I can start the SVN server automatically at the boot of the machine.

 

 

 

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Re: [CentOS] Are SSD disks worth the cost for server usage?

2010-01-12 Thread Brian Mathis
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 7:30 AM, Mathieu Baudier  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> we want to upgrade our infrastructure and are considering renting two
> different types of server by a provider:
>
> - A: one is with 80 GB SSD (and 12 GB memory)
> http://www.ovh.co.uk/products/eg_ssd.xml
> - B: the other with 750 GB SATA2 (and 8 GB memory).
> http://www.ovh.co.uk/products/eg_best_of.xml
>
> The target infrastructure will host:
> - a few public web sites (PHP / MySQL)
> - a development infrastructure (subversion, bugzilla, automated builds)
>
> This will use KVM virtualization with Cent OS 5.4 hosts and guests.
>
> On the long run we will probably rent quite a few of type B depending
> on our needs of space and computing power.
>
> My question is whether it is worth using one of type A (with SSD
> drives) in order to host the critical data such as the web sites and
> the subversion repository (critical in the sense that these services
> should be fast, always available, and the related data as safe as
> possible).
>
> This critical server will be more read oriented than write.
> We will probably use a hardware RAID 1 with battery backed unit on it.
>
> My understanding is that SSD are much much faster.
> Is it really true in the real world?
>
> Are SSD drives also safer?
> (that is, less likely to crash under load)
> Or to the contrary?
>
> I have read/heard conflicting opinions so far and I'll be happy to
> hear opinions/experiences on SSD drives in a server settings from
> people on the list.
> More general comments about our plans are always welcome of course!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mathieu
>
> PS: we will actually rent them in France, but I put links to the
> equivalent in Britain in order to have the description in English.
> For reference and for the French-speaking people, here are the actual
> servers we consider:
> http://www.ovh.com/fr/produits/eg_ssd.xml
> http://www.ovh.com/fr/produits/eg_best_of.xml
> (they are exactly the same)


It's too early to start putting Flash-based SSDs in servers unless you
have a really specific need.  Based on you description above, this
does not sound like a hugely high-performance I/O server.  I suggest
you look into 15k RPM disk drives setup in a RAID10 configuration.
That will get you the most speed.  Additionally, the Linux IO system
uses RAM extensively for caching, so you'll be getting the benefit of
that anyway.
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Re: [CentOS] I can't start the SVN server at the boot on CentOS

2010-01-12 Thread Mathieu Baudier
> I have just installed an SVN server on a CentOS 5.4 machine.

Did you install mod_dav_svn (Apach httpd module)
or the standalone svnserve?

> how I can start the SVN server automatically at the boot of the machine.

If it is mod_dav_svn, just make sure that Apache httpd is started automatically:

sudo /sbin/chkconfig httpd on
(or via System > Administration > Services if you have the UI).

I never used seriously the the standalone svnserve, but I guess you
would have to start it explicitly either by:
- adding the command in /etc/rc.local (called by each reboot, but may
be not so clean?)
- write your own script under /etc/init.d

I would definitely suggest to use it as an httpd module (much easier
and flexible).
It requires a little Apache config though:
http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.5/svn.serverconfig.httpd.html
(note that this link is for SVN 1.5, but the config is the same for
SVN 1.4, which is the one provided by CentOS base)
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[CentOS] KVM management tools.....

2010-01-12 Thread Tom Bishop
Looking at what my best options for managing KVM via a gui.  Running Centos
5.4 and have several machines and want to migrate off of vmware server 2.x.
So far it appears that the management tools haven't quite cought up to
Vmware but are gaining and closing.  I have been looking at convirt, and
others.  I like what I see in Ovirt but I'm not sure it is available for
centos 5.4, or is it?  Is there anyone running ovirt in centos?  Also, what
are folks using for their management tools for KVM, Thanks.
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Re: [CentOS] I can't start the SVN server at the boot on CentOS

2010-01-12 Thread John Doe
From: Anas Alnaffar 
>I have just installed an SVN
>server on a CentOS 5.4 machine.
>how I can start the SVN server
>automatically at the boot of the machine.

How did you install it... from rpm? source?
Using builtin auth or ssh?
What does the documentation say?
Does it provide an init.rd script?
If so, check 'chkconfig'

JD


  
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Re: [CentOS] KVM management tools.....

2010-01-12 Thread Tait Clarridge
On Tue, 2010-01-12 at 09:13 -0600, Tom Bishop wrote:
> Looking at what my best options for managing KVM via a gui.  Running
> Centos 5.4 and have several machines and want to migrate off of vmware
> server 2.x.  So far it appears that the management tools haven't quite
> cought up to Vmware but are gaining and closing.  I have been looking
> at convirt, and others.  I like what I see in Ovirt but I'm not sure
> it is available for centos 5.4, or is it?  Is there anyone running
> ovirt in centos?  Also, what are folks using for their management
> tools for KVM, Thanks. 
> __

For GUI I use virt-manager from my Fedora laptop connected to the KVM
host.



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Re: [CentOS] KVM management tools.....

2010-01-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 12/01/10 15:13, Tom Bishop wrote:
> Looking at what my best options for managing KVM via a gui. 

consider posting to the centos-virt list ?

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Re: [CentOS] KVM management tools.....

2010-01-12 Thread Tom Bishop
Thanks and will do...

On 1/12/10, Karanbir Singh  wrote:
> On 12/01/10 15:13, Tom Bishop wrote:
>> Looking at what my best options for managing KVM via a gui.
>
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Re: [CentOS] 8-15 TB storage: any recommendations?

2010-01-12 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 09:41:19AM +, Karanbir Singh wrote:
> On 12/01/10 00:02, Christopher Chan wrote:
> >> problems mostly centered around management and performance issues. the 
> >> world is littered with stores of cciss fail
> > Really? Man, I have been given this spanking new HP DL370 G6 and running 
> > Centos 5.4 on it...
> 
> I've got a couple of DL380's at one setup and another 12 DL360's at
> another place. We have had enough problems with interfaces that all the
> machines are now running off remote-storage. Our storage incident rate
> has gone from 1/day average to under 2/month since then.
> 
> all of these machines are G4 and G5's running CentOS-5/x86_64
> 

And I've been running DL380 and DL360 G3/G4 servers for years without
problems.. with CentOS and Xen.. using cciss local storage. :)

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Re: [CentOS] 8-15 TB storage: any recommendations?

2010-01-12 Thread nate
Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:

> And I've been running DL380 and DL360 G3/G4 servers for years without
> problems.. with CentOS and Xen.. using cciss local storage. :)

I've used HP/cciss on a couple hundred systems over the past 7 years,
can only recall 2 issues, both around a drive failing the controller
didn't force the drive off line, and there was no way to force it
off line using the command line tool, so had to go on site and physically
yank the drive. With the failing drive still in the array performance
tanked.

I've never used SATA on cciss, that could be a cause of issues.

Used several hundred 3ware controllers too, only a few issues.

My own opinion is I use proper storage arrays for storage, and only
use server-based controllers for the OS and basic stuff. And for my
VMware systems they are all boot from SAN. Will be trying boot from
SAN on CentOS 5.4 again soon, it didn't work properly on 5.2.

I feel much more comfortable with separation of storage from the
server for my important data.

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Re: [CentOS] 8-15 TB storage: any recommendations?

2010-01-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 12/01/10 12:22, Rainer Duffner wrote:
> Which is probably the reason why the ZFS-folks are trying to move as
> much intelligence out of the HBA into the OS.

not something that is really working - given that I've seen centos stock
with a few hba's easily our perform raid-z - with better reliability and
lower latency.

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Re: [CentOS] Are SSD disks worth the cost for server usage?

2010-01-12 Thread nate
Mathieu Baudier wrote:

> My question is whether it is worth using one of type A (with SSD
> drives) in order to host the critical data such as the web sites and
> the subversion repository (critical in the sense that these services
> should be fast, always available, and the related data as safe as
> possible).

Go with 10/15k RPM SAS, not Intel SSD or SATA if you want best
availability. Intel SSDs have had firmware issues since they came
out, I doubt we've seen the end of firmware changes on them.

If you want even higher availability go with a better provider,
this is a good cloud hosting provider which uses VMware and high
availability storage -

http://www.terremark.com/technology-platform/nap-data-centers.aspx

http://vcloudexpress.terremark.com/

Looks like they have 4 locations in Europe, I haven't used them
myself but went through a presentation for them last year very
impressive, though they are pricey. If you have simple requirements
it's probably not bad though(will be a few times more $ than the
hosting provider your looking at, but hey you wanted fast, always
available, and safe, those aren't cheap). You can provision machines
yourself, manage a remote firewall, and load balancers from their
web UI.

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Re: [CentOS] Are SSD disks worth the cost for server usage?

2010-01-12 Thread m . roth
> Mathieu Baudier wrote:
>
>> My question is whether it is worth using one of type A (with SSD
>> drives) in order to host the critical data such as the web sites and
>> the subversion repository (critical in the sense that these services
>> should be fast, always available, and the related data as safe as
>> possible).
>
> Go with 10/15k RPM SAS, not Intel SSD or SATA if you want best
> availability. Intel SSDs have had firmware issues since they came
> out, I doubt we've seen the end of firmware changes on them.

When I intereviewed last May with folks who did use them, I mentioned
that, and was told that the high-priced, er, quality enterprise grade
don't have the issues that the commercial grade sold to consumers do.

   mark

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Re: [CentOS] multipath

2010-01-12 Thread Paras pradhan
Upgrding the kernel to 2.6.18-164.10.1.el5xen brought back /dev/dm-* and now
multipath -ll has the ouput.

I am curious about what has caused the lost of /dev/dm* in my previous
kernel.

Any ideas?

Paras.


On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Paras pradhan wrote:

> Yes every thing's loaded.
>
> Here is the output:
>
> [r...@cvprd1 ~]# lsmod | grep dm
> dm_round_robin 36801  0
> rdma_cm68565  1 ib_iser
> ib_cm  73449  1 rdma_cm
> iw_cm  43465  1 rdma_cm
> ib_sa  75209  2 rdma_cm,ib_cm
> ib_core   105157  6 ib_iser,rdma_cm,ib_cm,iw_cm,ib_sa,ib_mad
> ib_addr41929  1 rdma_cm
> dm_multipath   56153  1 dm_round_robin
> scsi_dh41665  1 dm_multipath
> dm_raid45  99401  0
> dm_message 36289  1 dm_raid45
> dm_region_hash 46273  1 dm_raid45
> dm_mem_cache   39489  1 dm_raid45
> dm_snapshot52105  0
> dm_zero35265  0
> dm_mirror  54737  0
> dm_log 44993  3 dm_raid45,dm_region_hash,dm_mirror
> dm_mod101521  11
> dm_multipath,dm_raid45,dm_snapshot,dm_zero,dm_mirror,dm_log
>
>
>
> Thanks
> Paras.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 6:33 PM, nate  wrote:
>
>> Paras pradhan wrote:
>> > Hi.
>> >
>> > Somehow I do not see any out put using multipath -l or multipath -ll .
>> But I
>> > can see using dry run ie multipath -d.
>> >
>> > Also I do not see /dev/dm-*
>> >
>> > It was there before. How do I re claim it.
>>
>> Are the modules loaded?
>>
>> [r...@dc1-mysql001a:~]# lsmod | grep dm
>> dm_zero35265  0
>> dm_mirror  60617  0
>> dm_round_robin 36801  1
>> dm_multipath   52945  2 dm_round_robin
>> dm_mod 99737  17 dm_zero,dm_mirror,dm_multipath
>> [r...@dc1-mysql001a:~]# multipath -l
>> 350002ac0006a0714dm-1 3PARdata,VV
>> [size=1.0T][features=0][hwhandler=0]
>> \_ round-robin 0 [prio=0][active]
>>  \_ 1:0:0:3 sdc 8:32  [active][undef]
>>  \_ 1:0:1:3 sde 8:64  [active][undef]
>>  \_ 2:0:0:3 sdg 8:96  [active][undef]
>>  \_ 2:0:1:3 sdi 8:128 [active][undef]
>> 350002ac000790714dm-0 3PARdata,VV
>> [size=2.0T][features=0][hwhandler=0]
>> \_ round-robin 0 [prio=0][active]
>>  \_ 1:0:0:2 sdb 8:16  [active][undef]
>>  \_ 1:0:1:2 sdd 8:48  [active][undef]
>>  \_ 2:0:0:2 sdf 8:80  [active][undef]
>>  \_ 2:0:1:2 sdh 8:112 [active][undef]
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [CentOS] 8-15 TB storage: any recommendations?

2010-01-12 Thread Peter Kjellstrom
On Tuesday 12 January 2010, Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote:
> >> Which is why I specifically said 'performance wise' as respects 3ware. I
> >> don't remember anything bad about 3ware stability wise or monitoring
> >> wise.
> >
> > Is that supposed to be a joke? 3ware has certainly had their fair share
> > of stability problems (drive time-outs, bbu-problems, inconsistent
> > behaviour, ...) and monitoring wise they suck (imho). Do you like tw_cli?
> > Enjoying the fact that "show diag" gives you a cyclic text buffer without
> > references? etc.
>
> Oh, I did not hear of those and my last experience with 3ware was up to
> the 95xx series. I did hear of horror stories of Mylex but I myself
> never got to see one of those where the raid configuration would
> completely disappear. Most of my experience with 3ware is with the 75xx
> and 85xx cards which are only good for raid1+0 unless you can afford the
> major performance hit with raid5.
>
> > ...that said, it's not much worse than the competetion, storage simply
> > sucks ;-(
>
> So you are saying people dole out huge amounts of money for rubbish?
> That the software raid people were and have always been right?

Nope, storage sucks, that includes the software ;-)

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Re: [CentOS] 8-15 TB storage: any recommendations?

2010-01-12 Thread Les Mikesell
On 1/12/2010 10:39 AM, Peter Kjellstrom wrote:
>
 Which is why I specifically said 'performance wise' as respects 3ware. I
 don't remember anything bad about 3ware stability wise or monitoring
 wise.
>>>
>>> Is that supposed to be a joke? 3ware has certainly had their fair share
>>> of stability problems (drive time-outs, bbu-problems, inconsistent
>>> behaviour, ...) and monitoring wise they suck (imho). Do you like tw_cli?
>>> Enjoying the fact that "show diag" gives you a cyclic text buffer without
>>> references? etc.
>>
>> Oh, I did not hear of those and my last experience with 3ware was up to
>> the 95xx series. I did hear of horror stories of Mylex but I myself
>> never got to see one of those where the raid configuration would
>> completely disappear. Most of my experience with 3ware is with the 75xx
>> and 85xx cards which are only good for raid1+0 unless you can afford the
>> major performance hit with raid5.
>>
>>> ...that said, it's not much worse than the competetion, storage simply
>>> sucks ;-(
>>
>> So you are saying people dole out huge amounts of money for rubbish?
>> That the software raid people were and have always been right?
>
> Nope, storage sucks, that includes the software ;-)

If you can split the storage up into 2TB or smaller volumes that you can 
mount into sensible locations to spread the load and avoid contention 
you can always use software RAID1.  That at least has the advantage of 
being able to recover the data from any single drive that might still 
work after a problem.

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Re: [CentOS] Are SSD disks worth the cost for server usage?

2010-01-12 Thread Mathieu Baudier
> impressive, though they are pricey. If you have simple requirements
> it's probably not bad though(will be a few times more $ than the
> hosting provider your looking at, but hey you wanted fast, always
> available, and safe, those aren't cheap). You can provision machines

We don't have extremely high load requirements.
This is first and foremost a development infrastructure with a public
part for our free software products.
So we don't expect very high volume on it in the foreseeable future.
Our idea is more that we are ready to invest a bit more in the
hardware to be on the safe side.

We have been running our infrastructure for the last three years on a
cheap server with 1GB memory and on a Linux so old that I cannot even
tell here for security reasons (and a bit shame as well probably...)
We had one single crash during the three years (probably because I
kept everything very simple) and it is only for a few months that we
start feeling that the development of our activity requires something
bigger.

I would also say that it is more important for us to have control over
the whole stack than to have optimal performance.
And this whole stack has to be free software (which excludes VMware I guess).

But I really appreciate your suggestions, and if anybody has ideas of
other good providers in the European Union, I'm very interested!!
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Re: [CentOS] 8-15 TB storage: any recommendations?

2010-01-12 Thread JohnS

On Mon, 2010-01-11 at 16:16 -0500, Tom Georgoulias wrote:

> 
> CentOS 5.4 x86_64 works fine on the x4540s, I've installed it myself and 
> didn't have to do anything special to see and use all of the disks.
> 
> In my testing, the IO was faster and the storage easier to administer 
> with when using Solaris and ZFS rather than with CentOS and software 
> raid.  That kind of box is just made for ZFS.
> 
> Tom
---
Interesting, was the CentOS Box Tuned in any way?

John

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Re: [CentOS] Are SSD disks worth the cost for server usage?

2010-01-12 Thread Eero Volotinen
Quoting Mathieu Baudier :

>> impressive, though they are pricey. If you have simple requirements
>> it's probably not bad though(will be a few times more $ than the
>> hosting provider your looking at, but hey you wanted fast, always
>> available, and safe, those aren't cheap). You can provision machines
>
> We don't have extremely high load requirements.
> This is first and foremost a development infrastructure with a public
> part for our free software products.
> So we don't expect very high volume on it in the foreseeable future.
> Our idea is more that we are ready to invest a bit more in the
> hardware to be on the safe side.
>
> We have been running our infrastructure for the last three years on a
> cheap server with 1GB memory and on a Linux so old that I cannot even
> tell here for security reasons (and a bit shame as well probably...)
> We had one single crash during the three years (probably because I
> kept everything very simple) and it is only for a few months that we
> start feeling that the development of our activity requires something
> bigger.
>
> I would also say that it is more important for us to have control over
> the whole stack than to have optimal performance.
> And this whole stack has to be free software (which excludes VMware I guess).
>
> But I really appreciate your suggestions, and if anybody has ideas of
> other good providers in the European Union, I'm very interested!!

Well, if you really want to buy fast and expensive ssd from intel then  
just do it, but do not go with cheap ssds.


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Re: [CentOS] Are SSD disks worth the cost for server usage?

2010-01-12 Thread Mathieu Baudier
> Well, if you really want to buy fast and expensive ssd from intel then
> just do it, but do not go with cheap ssds.

Ok, I see your point (also putting it in relation with other helpful
comments from this thread): you mean that the SSD drives that this
provider offers:
http://www.intel.com/design/flash/nand/mainstream/index.htm
are mainstream SSD (not enterprise) and thus are likely to bring me problems.

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Re: [CentOS] Are SSD disks worth the cost for server usage?

2010-01-12 Thread nate
Mathieu Baudier wrote:

> http://www.intel.com/design/flash/nand/mainstream/index.htm
> are mainstream SSD (not enterprise) and thus are likely to bring me
> problems.

At this point I would say any SSD that is not from STEC is not
"enterprise", it seems most vendors at least for the moment
have partnered with STEC for their enterprise SSD needs.

http://www.stec-inc.com/

While I don't think you can boot from it, FusionIO is probably decent
quality as well, and screaming performance.

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Re: [CentOS] 8-15 TB storage: any recommendations?

2010-01-12 Thread Tom Georgoulias
On 01/12/2010 12:20 PM, JohnS wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2010-01-11 at 16:16 -0500, Tom Georgoulias wrote:

>> CentOS 5.4 x86_64 works fine on the x4540s, I've installed it myself and
>> didn't have to do anything special to see and use all of the disks.
>>
>> In my testing, the IO was faster and the storage easier to administer
>> with when using Solaris and ZFS rather than with CentOS and software
>> raid.  That kind of box is just made for ZFS.

> Interesting, was the CentOS Box Tuned in any way?

Not really, everything was just setup using the defaults.  I had a x4540 
with 48 1TB drives and tried to recreate the raidz2 setup that I had 
tested with Solaris/zfs.  I created six 6-disk RAID6 md devices, then 
added them into a single volume group and created a huge (5TB) logical 
volume with an XFS filesystem.  I tried use one disk from each 
controller in each md device (as indicated by the hdtool that sun 
provides).  I ran a variety of tests using tools like dd, iozone, 
tiobench, and sysbench and just watched how the server behaved.
 From what I could tell, the IO wasn't evenly spread across the disks in 
the md devices, just a subset.

I probably could've tweaked it some more, but I didn't have too much 
time to spend on it at the time.  The Sun Storage 7000 series servers 
were a better fit for that project anyway.

Tom
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Re: [CentOS] multipath

2010-01-12 Thread Paras pradhan
Can anybody tell me if my multipath o/p is fine?

I have a active/active setup and when I unplug the FC SAN cable on one of
the ports of my HBA my host is being un responsive and need to reboot it.

When I do

multipath -ll

I can see:

[r...@cvprd2 etc]# multipath -ll
mpath2 (360060e8004770d00770d018c) dm-1 HITACHI,OPEN-V*10
[size=335G][features=1 queue_if_no_path][hwhandler=0][rw]
\_ round-robin 0 [prio=8][active]
 \_ 6:0:0:1 sdc 8:32  [active][ready]
 \_ 6:0:0:16385 sde 8:64  [active][ready]
 \_ 6:0:0:32769 sdg 8:96  [active][ready]
 \_ 6:0:0:49153 sdi 8:128 [active][ready]
 \_ 5:0:0:1 sdk 8:160 [active][ready]
 \_ 5:0:0:16385 sdm 8:192 [active][ready]
 \_ 5:0:0:32769 sdo 8:224 [active][ready]
 \_ 5:0:0:49153 sdq 65:0  [active][ready]
mpath1 (360060e8004770d00770d0154) dm-0 HITACHI,OPEN-V*9
[size=301G][features=1 queue_if_no_path][hwhandler=0][rw]
\_ round-robin 0 [prio=8][active]
 \_ 6:0:0:0 sdb 8:16  [active][ready]
 \_ 6:0:0:16384 sdd 8:48  [active][ready]
 \_ 6:0:0:32768 sdf 8:80  [active][ready]
 \_ 6:0:0:49152 sdh 8:112 [active][ready]
 \_ 5:0:0:0 sdj 8:144 [active][ready]
 \_ 5:0:0:16384 sdl 8:176 [active][ready]
 \_ 5:0:0:32768 sdn 8:208 [active][ready]
 \_ 5:0:0:49152 sdp 8:240 [active][ready]
[r...@cvprd2 etc]#


--

But when I do "multipath -v2" i donot see anything..


[r...@cvprd2 etc]# multipath -v2
[r...@cvprd2 etc]#


--

My multipath.conf is as below:

[r...@cvprd1 etc]# more multipath.conf
# This is a basic configuration file with some examples, for device mapper
# multipath.
# For a complete list of the default configuration values, see
# /usr/share/doc/device-mapper-multipath-0.4.7/multipath.conf.defaults
# For a list of configuration options with descriptions, see
# /usr/share/doc/device-mapper-multipath-0.4.7/multipath.conf.annotated


# Blacklist all devices by default. Remove this to enable multipathing
# on the default devices.
blacklist {
devnode "^sda"
}

## Use user friendly names, instead of using WWIDs as names.
defaults {
user_friendly_names yes
polling_interval 5
no_path_retry 3
failover immediate
path_grouping_policy multibus
rr_weight priorities
path_checker readsector0
}
devices {
device {
vendor  "HITACHI"
product "OPEN-V"
path_grouping_policymultibus
path_checkerreadsector0
getuid_callout  "/sbin/scsi_id -g -u -p0x80 -s
/block/%n"
}
}
[r...@cvprd1 etc]#


Thanks !
Paras




On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Paras pradhan wrote:

> Upgrding the kernel to 2.6.18-164.10.1.el5xen brought back /dev/dm-* and
> now multipath -ll has the ouput.
>
> I am curious about what has caused the lost of /dev/dm* in my previous
> kernel.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Paras.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Paras pradhan wrote:
>
>> Yes every thing's loaded.
>>
>> Here is the output:
>>
>> [r...@cvprd1 ~]# lsmod | grep dm
>> dm_round_robin 36801  0
>> rdma_cm68565  1 ib_iser
>> ib_cm  73449  1 rdma_cm
>> iw_cm  43465  1 rdma_cm
>> ib_sa  75209  2 rdma_cm,ib_cm
>> ib_core   105157  6 ib_iser,rdma_cm,ib_cm,iw_cm,ib_sa,ib_mad
>> ib_addr41929  1 rdma_cm
>> dm_multipath   56153  1 dm_round_robin
>> scsi_dh41665  1 dm_multipath
>> dm_raid45  99401  0
>> dm_message 36289  1 dm_raid45
>> dm_region_hash 46273  1 dm_raid45
>> dm_mem_cache   39489  1 dm_raid45
>> dm_snapshot52105  0
>> dm_zero35265  0
>> dm_mirror  54737  0
>> dm_log 44993  3 dm_raid45,dm_region_hash,dm_mirror
>> dm_mod101521  11
>> dm_multipath,dm_raid45,dm_snapshot,dm_zero,dm_mirror,dm_log
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>> Paras.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 6:33 PM, nate  wrote:
>>
>>> Paras pradhan wrote:
>>> > Hi.
>>> >
>>> > Somehow I do not see any out put using multipath -l or multipath -ll .
>>> But I
>>> > can see using dry run ie multipath -d.
>>> >
>>> > Also I do not see /dev/dm-*
>>> >
>>> > It was there before. How do I re claim it.
>>>
>>> Are the modules loaded?
>>>
>>> [r...@dc1-mysql001a:~]# lsmod | grep dm
>>> dm_zero35265  0
>>> dm_mirror  60617  0
>>> dm_round_robin 36801  1
>>> dm_multipath   52945  2 dm_round_robin
>>> dm_mod 99737  17 dm_zero,dm_mirror,dm_multipath
>>> [r...@dc1-mysql001a:~]# multipath -l
>>> 350002ac0006a0714dm-1 3PARdata,VV
>>> [size=1.0T][features=0][hwhandler=0]
>>> \_ round-robin 0 [prio=0][active]
>>>  \_ 1:0:0:3 sdc 8:32  [active][undef]
>>>  \_ 1:0:1:3 sde 8:64  [active][undef]
>>>  \_ 2:0:0:3 sdg 8:96  [active][undef]
>>>  \_ 2:0:1:3 sdi 8:128 [active][undef]
>>> 350002ac000790714dm-0 3PARdata,VV
>>> [size=2.0T][features=0][hwhandler=0]
>>> \_ round-robin 0 [prio=0][active]
>>>  \_ 1:0:0:2 sdb 8:16  [active]

[CentOS] kickstart %pre help on C5.4

2010-01-12 Thread Alan McKay
Hey folks!

I'm doing some %pre work for the first time in a very long time, and
have been at this all day so far and still don't have anything sorted
out properly.

First I tried just doing some simple bash stuff like this

%pre
#!/bin/bash
# stuff

I reduced "stuff" down to basically a simple "select" statement to
echo and read input, just for the sake of debugging.

My first problem is that when running the kickstart, the little box
would come up saying it is running the pre scripts, but my scripts
would never actually run.   No output, no prompts, nothing.

So after some muddling I tried this :

%pre
#!/bin/bash
exec 1>&3
exec > /dev/tty
chvt 3
exec < /dev/tty3 > /dev/tty3
clear
# stuff

I cannot say I really understand this - it is just something I came
across.   in any case, now my script seems to run fine, but after it
finishes it does not appear to go back to my install.  I get messages
like :

date INFO all kickstart %%pre script(s) have been run
date WARNING resolution and depth not specified, try to be sane

and that is it - it stops there.

I've also tried just :

%pre
#!/bin/bash
chvt 3
clear
# stuff

With the same results as above.

This is all running within VMWare ESXi 4.0 if that matters.

What am I missing here?

thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] multipath

2010-01-12 Thread nate
Paras pradhan wrote:
> Can anybody tell me if my multipath o/p is fine?

Hitachi support should be able to

> I have a active/active setup and when I unplug the FC SAN cable on one of
> the ports of my HBA my host is being un responsive and need to reboot it.

Sounds like it is mis configured, doing some searches I found several
references to the "/sbin/pp_hds_modular" command, which you may need,
in this situation it's best to deal with your vendor support they
should have instructions for supported MPIO configurations(whether or
not linux device mapper is supported I don't know).

Also double/triple check that your array is truely active-active, from
what I recall you had a really old HDS system, I don't recall many of
them being active-active(in the sense that you can access the same
volume over multiple controllers simultaneously vs having different
volumes exported over different controllers).

For modular active-active I was in a presentation last year by HDS
for their new AMS2k line up and they claimed that was the first
modular active-active array(at least from them), others have had
modular active-active for a few years now, they tried to claim they
were the first despite that not being true.

http://www.hds.com/products/storage-systems/adaptable-modular-storage-2000-family/index.html

For me if I yank a cable within a couple seconds the system
recovers, my vendor provides extremely specific step-by-step
instructions for configuring, including modifications to the
multipath init script for proper operation(7 pages in a PDF just
for MPIO configuration and examples).

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Re: [CentOS] kickstart %pre help on C5.4

2010-01-12 Thread nate
Alan McKay wrote:

> What am I missing here?

Is /bin/bash even available during %pre ?

I just started testing CentOS 5.4 yesterday w/kickstart, currently
all of my systems are 5.2. Tested this under ESX 4.0 this morning.

This is what my %pre looks like now, I consolidated all configs
into a single script that is called

# Note: there doesn't seem to be any way to log stuff that occurs in %pre as
# it occurs outside of the chroot before kickstart loads.
%pre
export KICKSTART_IP=`cat /proc/cmdline | sed s'/.*http:\/\///'g | sed
s'/\/config.*//'g`
wget
http://${KICKSTART_IP}/kickstart-postinstall/bin/kickstart-pre-install-generic.sh
-O /tmp/kickstart-pre-install-generic.sh
chmod 755 /tmp/kickstart-pre-install-generic.sh
/tmp/kickstart-pre-install-generic.sh

then the kickstart-pre-install-generic.sh script contains

#!/bin/sh

export KICKSTART_IP=`cat /proc/cmdline | sed s'/.*http:\/\///'g | sed
s'/\/config.*//'g`
export KERNEL_VERSION=`uname -r`

# No /etc/redhat-release during pre, so guessing based on kernel version
echo $KERNEL_VERSION | grep "2.6.9" && export CURRENT_OS="RHEL4"
echo $KERNEL_VERSION | grep "2.6.9" || export CURRENT_OS="RHEL5"

###
## Attempt to auto detect console device ##
###

grep -q "ttyS0,9600" /proc/cmdline && wget
http://${KICKSTART_IP}/config/common/rhel_5/console/console_ttyS0_9600.cfg
-O /tmp/console.config
grep -q "ttyS0,57600" /proc/cmdline && wget
http://${KICKSTART_IP}/config/common/rhel_5/console/console_ttyS0_57600.cfg
-O /tmp/console.config
grep -q "ttyS0,115200" /proc/cmdline && wget
http://${KICKSTART_IP}/config/common/rhel_5/console/console_ttyS0_115200.cfg
-O /tmp/console.config

grep -q "ttyS1,9600" /proc/cmdline && wget
http://${KICKSTART_IP}/config/common/rhel_5/console/console_ttyS1_9600.cfg
-O /tmp/console.config
grep -q "ttyS1,57600" /proc/cmdline && wget
http://${KICKSTART_IP}/config/common/rhel_5/console/console_ttyS1_57600.cfg
-O /tmp/console.config
grep -q "ttyS1,115200" /proc/cmdline && wget
http://${KICKSTART_IP}/config/common/rhel_5/console/console_ttyS1_115200.cfg
-O /tmp/console.config

# Default to VGA if we can't find a serial console defined
[ ! -f "/tmp/console.config" ] && wget
http://${KICKSTART_IP}/config/common/rhel_5/console/vga.cfg -O
/tmp/console.config

###
## Attempt to auto detect network device ##
###

[ "$CURRENT_OS" == "RHEL5" ] && grep -q "ksdevice=eth0" /proc/cmdline &&
wget
http://${KICKSTART_IP}/config/common/rhel_5/network/ksdevice_eth0.config -O
/tmp/network.config
[ "$CURRENT_OS" == "RHEL5" ] && grep -q "ksdevice=eth1" /proc/cmdline &&
wget
http://${KICKSTART_IP}/config/common/rhel_5/network/ksdevice_eth1.config -O
/tmp/network.config

echo $KERNEL_VERSION | grep "2.6.9" && grep -q "ksdevice=eth0" /proc/cmdline
&& wget
http://${KICKSTART_IP}/config/common/rhel_4/network/ksdevice_eth0.config -O
/tmp/network.config
echo $KERNEL_VERSION | grep "2.6.9" &&  grep -q "ksdevice=eth1"
/proc/cmdline && wget
http://${KICKSTART_IP}/config/common/rhel_4/network/ksdevice_eth1.config -O
/tmp/network.config


# Default to eth0 if we don't see anything specified
[ "$CURRENT_OS" == "RHEL5" ] &&  [ ! -f "/tmp/network.config" ] && wget
http://${KICKSTART_IP}/config/common/rhel_5/network/ksdevice_eth0.config -O
/tmp/network.config
echo $KERNEL_VERSION | grep "2.6.9" && [ ! -f "/tmp/network.config" ] &&
wget
http://${KICKSTART_IP}/config/common/rhel_4/network/ksdevice_eth0.config -O
/tmp/network.config

###
## Attempt to auto detect custom swap size   ##
###
grep -qi "swapsize" /proc/cmdline && export SWAPSIZE=`cat /proc/cmdline |
sed s'/ /\n/'g | grep swapsize | sed s'/swapsize=//'g`
[ -z "$SWAPSIZE" ] && export SWAPSIZE="4096"
echo "part swap --size=${SWAPSIZE}" >/tmp/swap.config

-- end script --

nate



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Re: [CentOS] kickstart %pre help on C5.4

2010-01-12 Thread Alan McKay
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 2:25 PM, nate  wrote:
> Alan McKay wrote:
>
>> What am I missing here?
>
> Is /bin/bash even available during %pre ?

I was wondering that myself, but it did not complain, and seems to
run, and it is given as an example here :

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Kickstart


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Re: [CentOS] kickstart %pre help on C5.4

2010-01-12 Thread Alan McKay
The following %pre script hangs on me - I get the little GUI window
that comes up and says "Running pre-install scripts" and it hangs
there

%pre
#!/bin/sh
# exec 1>&3
# exec > /dev/tty
# chvt 3
# exec < /dev/tty3 > /dev/tty3
# clear
SAVEPS3=$PS3
PS3="Use standard disk partitioning? "
STDISK=""
select STDISK in yes no
do
[ "$STDISK" != "" ] && break
done
PS3=$SAVEPS3
echo "# nothing" > /tmp/part-include






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Re: [CentOS] kickstart %pre help on C5.4

2010-01-12 Thread nate
Alan McKay wrote:
> The following %pre script hangs on me - I get the little GUI window
> that comes up and says "Running pre-install scripts" and it hangs
> there

Maybe a different approach? I set variables on the kickstart
command line for custom options and have the installer evaluate those
options. For example, by default all systems get a swap partition of
4GB. If I specify "swapsize=1024" as part of the install command line
then that system gets a 1GB swap partition.

I think your %pre command is hanging because it's waiting for
input.

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Re: [CentOS] kickstart %pre help on C5.4

2010-01-12 Thread Alan McKay
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 2:45 PM, nate  wrote:
> Maybe a different approach?

But this should work ...

> I think your %pre command is hanging because it's waiting for
> input.

I think you are right, but I just don't get why it is behaving the way
it is.  Either hangs up front, or at the back end, depending on what I
am doing.

There have to be people out there doing this.  We always did it in my
old job - that was with FC going on up to FC9



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Re: [CentOS] 8-15 TB storage: any recommendations?

2010-01-12 Thread Keith Keller
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 09:01:42AM +0100, Peter Kjellstrom wrote:
> 
> Is that supposed to be a joke? 3ware has certainly had their fair share of 
> stability problems (drive time-outs, bbu-problems, inconsistent 
> behaviour, ...) and monitoring wise they suck (imho). Do you like tw_cli? 

I don't dislike tw_cli.  At least, I like it much better than the old
afacli/aaccli, and I also like having 3dm2 send out email alerts in
addition to monitoring using tw_cli.  (I have a short nagios plugin I've
written to parse the tw_cli output, as well; it's not all that great,
but if others are interested I will send it offlist.)

I have seen some of the other issues you mentioned, which is one reason
I have been considering other vendors (and, I suppose, software RAID,
though less seriously).

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Re: [CentOS] kickstart %pre help on C5.4

2010-01-12 Thread Kwan Lowe
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Alan McKay  wrote:
> The following %pre script hangs on me - I get the little GUI window
> that comes up and says "Running pre-install scripts" and it hangs
> there
[snip]
> select STDISK in yes no
> do
>        [ "$STDISK" != "" ]     && break
> done
> PS3=$SAVEPS3
> echo "# nothing" > /tmp/part-include

I'm not using any %pre, but have lots of %post scripts. None seem to
work unless I put it all on one line. Even using the line continuation
character fails.

For example, this fails:
DISABLE_LIST="pcscd sendmail bluetooth"
for item in ${DISABLE_LIST}; do
   chkconfig ${item} off
done

But this works:
..
for item in ${DISABLE_LIST}; do chkconfig ${item} off; done
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Re: [CentOS] kickstart %pre help on C5.4

2010-01-12 Thread Alan McKay
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Kwan Lowe  wrote:
> But this works:
> ..
> for item in ${DISABLE_LIST}; do chkconfig ${item} off; done

Mine is working fine when I do this first :

chvt 3

But then when I get to the end it hangs.I am now trying to figure
out what my console number was before that, so I can change back.  I
guess I could use trial and error.  Unfortunately "fgconsole" does not
seem to be present.


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Re: [CentOS] kickstart %pre help on C5.4

2010-01-12 Thread Alan McKay
OK, at the end of my %pre I do

chvt 1

and it at least goes further and says it is starting the X server

1 ... 2 ... 3 ... (etc) started successfully

But it does not switch to it.

Which just reminded me that I could just run this in text mode!   That
would probably solve the problem, but now I'm being stubborn and want
to get it going in X :-)

I'm just going to try chvt up to 10 and see if any of those works.  If
not, I'll switch to text mode.

Will report back ...



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[CentOS] Get Me Outta Here! Web site security issue

2010-01-12 Thread Slack-Moehrle
Hi All,

I have a CentOS 5.4 web server. I have some stuff that runs on 443.

When I hit https:// 

The user gets a warning saying that site identity could not be verified and the 
user can add an exception if they want.

How do I stop this from happing? Do I need to buy an SSL cert? Aren't these 
really expensive per server and I have 5 servers I would need to do this too.

Can anyone provide advice?

-Jason

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Re: [CentOS] Get Me Outta Here! Web site security issue

2010-01-12 Thread Neil Aggarwal
> The user gets a warning saying that site identity could not 
> be verified and the user can add an exception if they want.

Those are SSL Cert warnings.  You will get to get a signed
cert to avoid them.

SSL Certs are pretty cheap now.  

http://startssl.org will generate certs for free but you
have to register and jump through a few hoops.

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[CentOS] Rhythmbox won't play mp3 files

2010-01-12 Thread Kevin Kempter
Hi all;

I'm actually running RHEL 5.4

I installed the rpmforge centos repo (and disabled it). Then I installed the 
following:


yum --enablerepo=rpmforge install libdvdcss libdvdread libdvdplay libdvdnav 
lsdvd mplayerplug-in mplayer mplayer-gui compat-libstdc++-33 flash-plugin 
gstreamer-plugins-bad gstreamer-plugins-ugly gstreamer-ffmpeg libquicktime   



yum --enablerepo=rpmforge install xmms

which installed these:

xmms
gdk-pixbuf
glib
gtk+
mikmod


yum --enablerepo=rpmforge install gstreamer gstreamer gstreamer-plugins-base 
gstreamer-plugins-good gstreamer-plugins-ugly gstreamer-tools   
  

which installed these:

gstreamer-plugins-ugly
a52dec
amrnb
lame
libcdio
libdvdcss
libdvdread
libid3tag
libmad
libsidplay
libsndfile
mpeg2dec
twolame


Anyone know what else I need to make rhythmbox recognize/play mp3 files?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: [CentOS] Get Me Outta Here! Web site security issue

2010-01-12 Thread m . roth
> Hi All,
>
> I have a CentOS 5.4 web server. I have some stuff that runs on 443.
>
> When I hit https://
>
> The user gets a warning saying that site identity could not be verified
> and the user can add an exception if they want.
>
> How do I stop this from happing? Do I need to buy an SSL cert? Aren't
> these really expensive per server and I have 5 servers I would need to do
> this too.
>
The *only* way is to buy certs. And it'll be one for each sitename. And
you'll have to answer a *lot* of questions Security's cranking up,
esp. if you're accepting credit cards, in which case it's *really*
ratcheted up.

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Re: [CentOS] Get Me Outta Here! Web site security issue

2010-01-12 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Slack-Moehrle wrote on Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:18:15 -0800 (PST):

> How do I stop this from happing? Do I need to buy an SSL cert?

Either that or allow the exception or import the CA cert to the browser.
This is not a CentOS issue at all. Folks, please keep off-topic questions 
off the list.

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Re: [CentOS] kickstart %pre help on C5.4

2010-01-12 Thread Alan McKay
chvt 2 takes me to a root command prompt!
from there I tried manually "chvt 3" which took me back where I was
chvt 4 does not seem to do me any good
5 ... nada
6 ... now we're somewhere!   It is coming back for me and giving me
errors in my disk partitioning.   Within the X GUI!

I think I have something to work with here ...

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Re: [CentOS] Get Me Outta Here! Web site security issue

2010-01-12 Thread Slack-Moehrle

Hi,

>> How do I stop this from happing? Do I need to buy an SSL cert? Aren't
>> these really expensive per server and I have 5 servers I would need to do
>> this too.

>The *only* way is to buy certs. And it'll be one for each sitename. And
>you'll have to answer a *lot* of questions Security's cranking up,
>esp. if you're accepting credit cards, in which case it's *really*
>ratcheted up.

What are the organizations that do this properly and inexpensively.

One for each domain name, correct?

-Jason
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Re: [CentOS] Get Me Outta Here! Web site security issue

2010-01-12 Thread Pascal Robert


Le 10-01-12 à 15:32, Slack-Moehrle a écrit :



Hi,

How do I stop this from happing? Do I need to buy an SSL cert?  
Aren't
these really expensive per server and I have 5 servers I would  
need to do

this too.


The *only* way is to buy certs. And it'll be one for each sitename.  
And
you'll have to answer a *lot* of questions Security's cranking  
up,

esp. if you're accepting credit cards, in which case it's *really*
ratcheted up.


What are the organizations that do this properly and inexpensively.

One for each domain name, correct?


You can buy wildcard certificates if all of your servers are running  
under the same TLD.




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Re: [CentOS] Get Me Outta Here! Web site security issue

2010-01-12 Thread Ryan Wagoner
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Slack-Moehrle
 wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>>> How do I stop this from happing? Do I need to buy an SSL cert? Aren't
>>> these really expensive per server and I have 5 servers I would need to do
>>> this too.
>
>>The *only* way is to buy certs. And it'll be one for each sitename. And
>>you'll have to answer a *lot* of questions Security's cranking up,
>>esp. if you're accepting credit cards, in which case it's *really*
>>ratcheted up.
>
> What are the organizations that do this properly and inexpensively.
>
> One for each domain name, correct?
>
> -Jason
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Have a look at Godaddy's SSL certs. They are around $30 per domain.
You need one IP per domain with SSL cert as well.

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Re: [CentOS] Rhythmbox won't play mp3 files

2010-01-12 Thread JohnS

On Tue, 2010-01-12 at 13:23 -0700, Kevin Kempter wrote:
> Hi all;
> 
> I'm actually running RHEL 5.4
> 
> I installed the rpmforge centos repo (and disabled it). Then I installed the 
> following:
> 
> 
> yum --enablerepo=rpmforge install libdvdcss libdvdread libdvdplay libdvdnav 
> lsdvd mplayerplug-in mplayer mplayer-gui compat-libstdc++-33 flash-plugin 
> gstreamer-plugins-bad gstreamer-plugins-ugly gstreamer-ffmpeg libquicktime   
> 
> 
> 
> yum --enablerepo=rpmforge install xmms
> 
> which installed these:
> 
> xmms
> gdk-pixbuf
> glib
> gtk+
> mikmod
> 
> 
> yum --enablerepo=rpmforge install gstreamer gstreamer gstreamer-plugins-base 
> gstreamer-plugins-good gstreamer-plugins-ugly gstreamer-tools 
> 
> 
> which installed these:
> 
> gstreamer-plugins-ugly
> a52dec
> amrnb
> lame
> libcdio
> libdvdcss
> libdvdread
> libid3tag
> libmad
> libsidplay
> libsndfile
> mpeg2dec
> twolame
> 
> 
> Anyone know what else I need to make rhythmbox recognize/play mp3 files?
---
I have no idea if rythem box will even play them.  Mine want.

yum install xmms-mp3 from rpmforge will though through xmms

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Re: [CentOS] Get Me Outta Here! Web site security issue

2010-01-12 Thread m . roth
Jason wrote:
> mark wrote:
>> Jason wrote:
>>> How do I stop this from happing? Do I need to buy an SSL cert? Aren't
>>> these really expensive per server and I have 5 servers I would need to
>>> do
>>> this too.
>
>>The *only* way is to buy certs. And it'll be one for each sitename. And
>>you'll have to answer a *lot* of questions Security's cranking up,
>>esp. if you're accepting credit cards, in which case it's *really*
>>ratcheted up.
>
> What are the organizations that do this properly and inexpensively.

No idea.
>
> One for each domain name, correct?
>
Yep. Webservers will compare the name and the sitename.

   mark

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Re: [CentOS] Rhythmbox won't play mp3 files

2010-01-12 Thread lostson

On Tue, 2010-01-12 at 13:23 -0700, Kevin Kempter wrote:
> Hi all;
> 
> I'm actually running RHEL 5.4
> 
> I installed the rpmforge centos repo (and disabled it). Then I installed the 
> following:
> 
> 
> yum --enablerepo=rpmforge install libdvdcss libdvdread libdvdplay libdvdnav 
> lsdvd mplayerplug-in mplayer mplayer-gui compat-libstdc++-33 flash-plugin 
> gstreamer-plugins-bad gstreamer-plugins-ugly gstreamer-ffmpeg libquicktime   
> 
> 
> 
> yum --enablerepo=rpmforge install xmms
> 
> which installed these:
> 
> xmms
> gdk-pixbuf
> glib
> gtk+
> mikmod
> 
> 
> yum --enablerepo=rpmforge install gstreamer gstreamer gstreamer-plugins-base 
> gstreamer-plugins-good gstreamer-plugins-ugly gstreamer-tools 
> 
> 
> which installed these:
> 
> gstreamer-plugins-ugly
> a52dec
> amrnb
> lame
> libcdio
> libdvdcss
> libdvdread
> libid3tag
> libmad
> libsidplay
> libsndfile
> mpeg2dec
> twolame
> 
> 
> Anyone know what else I need to make rhythmbox recognize/play mp3 files?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
  For one stop using rpmforge this repo does nothing but trash a system.
Use the rpmfusion repo then do a 

yum install gstreamer-plugins-ugly gstreamer-plugins-bad

 And now Rhythmbox will play mp3's without a hitch. also if your going
for the media stuff add a 

 yum install mplayer mplayer-gui 

 and this will pull all the extra media codecs and mplayer as well. 

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Re: [CentOS] Rhythmbox won't play mp3 files

2010-01-12 Thread Steve Huff


On Jan 12, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Kevin Kempter wrote:

Anyone know what else I need to make rhythmbox recognize/play mp3  
files?



i have the following packages installed:

rhythmbox-0.11.6-4.el5
gstreamer-plugins-ugly-0.10.11-1.el5.rf

and my RHEL 5.4 system plays MP3s.

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Re: [CentOS] Rhythmbox won't play mp3 files

2010-01-12 Thread Max Hetrick
lostson wrote:

>   For one stop using rpmforge this repo does nothing but trash a system.
> Use the rpmfusion repo then do a 

I can't say that I've ever had a single system every trashed by using 
RPMForge. This is why the yum-priorities package exists for any repo you 
want to use, so you don't overwrite system RPMs.

Regards,
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Re: [CentOS] Rhythmbox won't play mp3 files

2010-01-12 Thread JohnS

On Tue, 2010-01-12 at 14:47 -0600, lostson wrote:

>   For one stop using rpmforge this repo does nothing but trash a system.

Discussion on that for us?

> Use the rpmfusion repo then do a 
> 
> yum install gstreamer-plugins-ugly gstreamer-plugins-bad
> 
>  And now Rhythmbox will play mp3's without a hitch. also if your going
> for the media stuff add a 
> 
>  yum install mplayer mplayer-gui 
> 
>  and this will pull all the extra media codecs and mplayer as well. 
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Re: [CentOS] Rhythmbox won't play mp3 files

2010-01-12 Thread Max Hetrick
Kevin Kempter wrote:
> Hi all;
> 
> I'm actually running RHEL 5.4
> 
> I installed the rpmforge centos repo (and disabled it). Then I installed the 
> following:

Before you get your system all hosed using ANY third-party repos, I 
suggest you read these two pages first.

This explains the priorities plugin. It's very important if you're going 
to use any third-party repos.

http://wiki.centos.org/PackageManagement/Yum/Priorities

Then here's the repos page with information.

http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories?highlight=(third-party)

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Re: [CentOS] Rhythmbox won't play mp3 files

2010-01-12 Thread Michael A. Peters
Kevin Kempter wrote:

> 
> 
> Anyone know what else I need to make rhythmbox recognize/play mp3 files?

I don't know about rhythmbox - but fluendo has a free mp3 plugin that 
works extremely well for other GStreamer apps.

http://www.fluendo.com/shop/product/fluendo-mp3-decoder/

It won't allow you to use GStreamer apps to encode mp3's - but I always 
do that with lame anyway.
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Re: [CentOS] Rhythmbox won't play mp3 files

2010-01-12 Thread m . roth
> Kevin Kempter wrote:
>
>> Anyone know what else I need to make rhythmbox recognize/play mp3 files?
>
> I don't know about rhythmbox - but fluendo has a free mp3 plugin that
> works extremely well for other GStreamer apps.
>
> http://www.fluendo.com/shop/product/fluendo-mp3-decoder/
>
> It won't allow you to use GStreamer apps to encode mp3's - but I always
> do that with lame anyway.

Ok, *someone's* got to say it: what's wrong with mplayer?

   mark

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[CentOS] Vmware server 1.x

2010-01-12 Thread mattias
Anyone running centos 1.x on centos 5.3?

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[CentOS] directory permissions

2010-01-12 Thread Carlos Santana
Hi,

I have changed directory ownership permissions recursively such that
it is owned by username:groupname , where groupname is not the default
group, i.e., username. However, when a user creates a new file the
default permissions are again username:username.

How can I give  ownership permissions on a particular directory so
that any files created in that directory will always have specifc
username:groupname permissions?
Also is there any option that would allow only owner to delete files,
even though group has rwx permissions?

Thanks,
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[CentOS] Trip to FOSDEM from London

2010-01-12 Thread Geerd-Dietger Hoffmann
Hello

We are organizing a trip to Brussels for Fosdem in February starting
from London.

FOSDEM (Free and Open Source Development European Meeting) is a
European event centered around Free and Open Source software
development. It is aimed at developers and all interested in the Free
and Open Source news in the world. Its goals are to enable developers
to meet and to promote the awareness and use of free and open source
software. It is said to be the biggest gathering of Open Source
interested people in Europe and the speaker list is quite impressive.

We will be leaving London on Friday (5. Feb) evening and returning on
Sunday (7. Feb). One of our goals is it to keep the total cost for the
weekend under 200 Pounds, which is quite cheep for a weekend in
Brussels.

People who are interested can look at the wiki [1] or drop me a mail.
Everyone is welcome.

Cheers Didi

[1] http://www.bunix.org.uk/wiki/doku.php/events:fosdem2010

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Re: [CentOS] directory permissions

2010-01-12 Thread nate
Carlos Santana wrote:

> How can I give  ownership permissions on a particular directory so
> that any files created in that directory will always have specifc
> username:groupname permissions?

make the directory setgid chmod g+s

> Also is there any option that would allow only owner to delete files,
> even though group has rwx permissions?

Perhaps via ACLs..

nate


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Re: [CentOS] Trip to FOSDEM from London

2010-01-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 12/01/10 21:36, Geerd-Dietger Hoffmann wrote:
> We will be leaving London on Friday (5. Feb) evening and returning on
> Sunday (7. Feb). One of our goals is it to keep the total cost for the
> weekend under 200 Pounds, which is quite cheep for a weekend in
> Brussels.

I'll see you guys at the other end, am heading out early friday morning
via eurostar ( the 11:45am / 9:45am from London and the 6:45 from
ebbsfleet are mostly linux people! ).

Looking at your timescale, it looks like you might be cutting it fine
for the beer event.

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Re: [CentOS] directory permissions

2010-01-12 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010, Carlos Santana wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have changed directory ownership permissions recursively such that 
> it is owned by username:groupname , where groupname is not the 
> default group, i.e., username. However, when a user creates a new 
> file the default permissions are again username:username.
>
> How can I give ownership permissions on a particular directory so 
> that any files created in that directory will always have specifc 
> username:groupname permissions?

chmod 2775 /your/directory

This will assign group ownership of any files created in 
/your/directory to the group that owns that directory.

It won't, however, change user ownership. Allowing that sort of 
operation would be a great avenue for a denial-of-service attach on 
any filesystem with quotas.

> Also is there any option that would allow only owner to delete 
> files, even though group has rwx permissions?

chmod 3775 /your/directory

This combines the 2775 trick mentioned above with an o+s operation. 
Setting the "sticky bit" on the all-users permissions allows only 
owners to dispose of files. See the permissions on /tmp or /var/tmp 
for an example.

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Re: [CentOS] Vmware server 1.x

2010-01-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 12/01/10 21:34, mattias wrote:
> Anyone running centos 1.x on centos 5.3?
> 

Do you have something to talk about or are you just conducting a survey ?

hint: email and mailing lists are not IM or SMS style interactive to-fro
media!

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Re: [CentOS] Trip to FOSDEM from London

2010-01-12 Thread Geerd-Dietger Hoffmann
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Karanbir Singh  wrote:
> On 12/01/10 21:36, Geerd-Dietger Hoffmann wrote:
>> We will be leaving London on Friday (5. Feb) evening and returning on
>> Sunday (7. Feb). One of our goals is it to keep the total cost for the
>> weekend under 200 Pounds, which is quite cheep for a weekend in
>> Brussels.
>
> I'll see you guys at the other end, am heading out early friday morning
> via eurostar ( the 11:45am / 9:45am from London and the 6:45 from
> ebbsfleet are mostly linux people! ).
>
> Looking at your timescale, it looks like you might be cutting it fine
> for the beer event.

True, but a lot of us are working or are coming to London from all
over the UK. So that was the earliest we could make it. As we will be
a bus full of people I suppose we will not have to do a lot of
catching up for the beer event :)

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Re: [CentOS] Vmware server 1.x

2010-01-12 Thread Les Mikesell
On 1/12/2010 3:34 PM, mattias wrote:
> Anyone running centos 1.x on centos 5.3?
>

If you mean vmware 1.x, I have a few of them - or did, the Centos 
servers may all be updated to 5.4 now.. Starting over, I'd probably run 
ESXi on the hardware and Centos as one or more of the guests, though.

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Re: [CentOS] kickstart %pre help on C5.4

2010-01-12 Thread Alan McKay
Just to confirm - working great!

Just have to do "chvt 2" at the beginning of the %pre to get into text
mode, and then "chvt 6" at the end to flip back to X mode.



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Re: [CentOS] directory permissions

2010-01-12 Thread Carlos Santana
Thanks nate and Paul..

Do I need to use -R recursive option for any of the commands you mentioned?

-
CS.


On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Paul Heinlein  wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Jan 2010, Carlos Santana wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have changed directory ownership permissions recursively such that
>> it is owned by username:groupname , where groupname is not the
>> default group, i.e., username. However, when a user creates a new
>> file the default permissions are again username:username.
>>
>> How can I give ownership permissions on a particular directory so
>> that any files created in that directory will always have specifc
>> username:groupname permissions?
>
> chmod 2775 /your/directory
>
> This will assign group ownership of any files created in
> /your/directory to the group that owns that directory.
>
> It won't, however, change user ownership. Allowing that sort of
> operation would be a great avenue for a denial-of-service attach on
> any filesystem with quotas.
>
>> Also is there any option that would allow only owner to delete
>> files, even though group has rwx permissions?
>
> chmod 3775 /your/directory
>
> This combines the 2775 trick mentioned above with an o+s operation.
> Setting the "sticky bit" on the all-users permissions allows only
> owners to dispose of files. See the permissions on /tmp or /var/tmp
> for an example.
>
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Re: [CentOS] Vmware server 1.x

2010-01-12 Thread Max Hetrick
Les Mikesell wrote:

> If you mean vmware 1.x, I have a few of them - or did, the Centos 
> servers may all be updated to 5.4 now.. Starting over, I'd probably run 
> ESXi on the hardware and Centos as one or more of the guests, though.

Agreed. That's exactly what I started to do too. You get a lot better 
performance out of ESXi than VMware Server on CentOS, or whatever Linux 
flavor.

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[CentOS] offtopic repo's further discussion

2010-01-12 Thread lostson
Hello All 
 I may have ruffled some feathers with a comment i made earlier about
rpmforge. This was posted back on the ML.

On Tue, 2010-01-12 at 14:47 -0600, lostson wrote:

>   For one stop using rpmforge this repo does nothing but trash a
system.

Discussion on that for us?

 So to oblige here is a further discussion on this subject. The reason I
say this about rpmforge is because if you install this repo and then do
a yum update watch what it will install a huge amount of packages, which
9 times out of 10 is gonna get messy.(which can happen with any repo)
And yes I know all about yum-pritorities another plugin that you can
install to control the various repo's that one would like to add. I have
no problems with this either. 

 Here is my issue the simple joy of playing a mp3 on rhythmbox or amarok
should not be a test of one's admin skills or repo knowledge to get it
to play. But it is, it is always "here read these 2 pages about
yum-priorities plugin and repo's" I mean cmon really? There are 2 repo's
CentOS Extras and CentOS Plus could this functionality be placed in
here ? Where is the repo I read about months ago that was gonna be
available for users to submit packages to ? These are all questions that
should be getting asked.

 Another point to make is on the list forums and other places we are
seeing a influx of new users, coming from all sorts of other distro's
and to make this simple instance so damn hard and having to pull from
outside sources or repo's seems silly to me. Should CentOS not provide a
simple and easy solution for some of these things ? I mean standard
music and movie playback should be an easy one to get. There seems to be
some areas where this is taking place for instance I know there is kmods
for alot of things, but I am looking at the plain ol home user who wants
to listen to music email basic desktop stuff. And yes I know all about
the patent encumbered bs that everyone spouts all the time and i today's
times this is just a moot point now.

 Lets face it some of the other distro's are starting to show their true
colors and are often too concerned with updates and the latest and
greatest packages. Which is breaking more things than anything else. So
people are coming to try out CentOS because of the stability and lets
face it one of the best and helpful communities out there right now. And
yes I know CentOS is mainly known for the RHEL compatibility and more
server usage than anything else and that is the main goal, but why can
the project not cater to the home user and tinkerer and developer as
well ? 

 All in all I should not of called out rpmforge on such a short straw
the work they do is excellent and any 3rd party repo you use has the
potential to hose a machine no doubt about it.

 All in all I'm not saying I want Cent to become one of the "other"
distros here I'm just saying is there room for improvement ? To make
things easier for the average user at home. We see it all the time on
the lists and IRC and I'm thinking a more straightforward approach to
the situation and keeping some things not all of course, but the simple
ones inhouse and in Cent repo's instead of having to go outside the box
just for simple things.

 Oh well all in all this is just my humble opinion and I'm sure I will
get ravaged and picked apart at the seams for this but hey that's me so
fire away!!



 
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Re: [CentOS] directory permissions

2010-01-12 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010, Carlos Santana wrote:

> Thanks nate and Paul..
>
> Do I need to use -R recursive option for any of the commands you 
> mentioned?

I'd be leery of doing that unless the only items below the top 
directory are other directories (i.e., no regular files).

If you have subdirectories you want to alter, but you also have 
regular files sprinkled through the tree, it'd be best to run find 
instead, e.g.,

   find /your/directory -type d -exec chmod 3775 {} \;

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Re: [CentOS] directory permissions

2010-01-12 Thread Rob Kampen

Carlos Santana wrote:

Thanks nate and Paul..

Do I need to use -R recursive option for any of the commands you mentioned?

-
CS.


On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Paul Heinlein  wrote:
  

On Tue, 12 Jan 2010, Carlos Santana wrote:



Hi,

I have changed directory ownership permissions recursively such that
it is owned by username:groupname , where groupname is not the
default group, i.e., username. However, when a user creates a new
file the default permissions are again username:username.

How can I give ownership permissions on a particular directory so
that any files created in that directory will always have specifc
username:groupname permissions?
  

chmod 2775 /your/directory

This will assign group ownership of any files created in
/your/directory to the group that owns that directory.

It won't, however, change user ownership. Allowing that sort of
operation would be a great avenue for a denial-of-service attach on
any filesystem with quotas.


If you need to sort out sub-directories try - where tld is top level 
directory

$ find tld -type d -print0 | xargs -0 chmod 2775
if you need to clean up files (ie not directory)
$ find tld -type f -print0 | xargs -0 chmod 664
I find that openoffice chokes on files with the sticky bit set - it will 
not save!

Also is there any option that would allow only owner to delete
files, even though group has rwx permissions?
  

chmod 3775 /your/directory

This combines the 2775 trick mentioned above with an o+s operation.
Setting the "sticky bit" on the all-users permissions allows only
owners to dispose of files. See the permissions on /tmp or /var/tmp
for an example.

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Re: [CentOS] 8-15 TB storage: any recommendations?

2010-01-12 Thread Drew
>> ...that said, it's not much worse than the competetion, storage simply
>> sucks ;-(
>
> So you are saying people dole out huge amounts of money for rubbish?
> That the software raid people were and have always been right?

Depends what the software raid people were saying. :)

Hardware & Software RAID have their places. We use HW RAID exclusively
in our shop (SMB w/ multiple sites and I'm the sole tech.) but that's
because I can't always be on-site when drives die so it's nice to know
I can be out of town for a few days and if a drive packs it in the
RAID system in our IBM servers is plug & play. I get the alert, call
our vendor, and he shows up 9am next morning with a replacement drive.


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