[CentOS] CentOS Beer event London

2009-09-28 Thread Geerd-Dietger Hoffmann
From Karan's blog:

A few of us are going to be getting together for drinks on the Tuesday
29th Oct 2009, everyone is welcome to come along. I'll get there for
about 18:15hrs and plan on being around till about 20:00 - Depending
on how many people are around and what the feeling is - we might nip
around to Ragam ( mostly authentic South Indian food ), a few doors
down.

There will be a demo for CentOS-5.4 as well! If there is anything
specific you might want to see, let me know a bit in advance.

The full address is :
King & Queens,
1 Foley St,
London,
W1W 6DL‎

Here [1] is a Google Street view of the place.

If you email me, I'll get back with my mobile number - although it
should be mostly easy to spot the 'CentOS Guys'.

Hope to see you there, then!

Karan + Didi

[1] 
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=cleveland+street,+london&sll=54.525475,-1.188697&sspn=1.059963,1.947327&g=cleveland&ie=UTF8&ll=51.520388,-0.138603&spn=0.00111,0.001902&z=19&layer=c&cbll=51.520304,-0.138508&panoid=-gbEysT71vRhFMeDk-ap2Q&cbp=12,257.64,,0,11.85


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS Beer event London

2009-09-28 Thread Mogens Kjaer
On 09/28/2009 09:24 AM, Geerd-Dietger Hoffmann wrote:
>Tuesday
> 29th Oct 2009

October 29th is a Thursday. Doesn't he mean September?

Mogens

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Re: [CentOS] External Backup Systems?

2009-09-28 Thread John Austin
On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 03:17 +0100, M. Hamzah Khan wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-09-27 at 21:10 -0400, Robert Heller wrote:
> > At Sun, 27 Sep 2009 23:40:17 +0100 CentOS mailing list  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hey everyone,
> > > 
> > > My home server just had a disk failure a few weeks ago and like a lot of
> > > people I haven't ever really made backups on a regular basis. So I was
> > > looking into backup solutions which will save me from this situation
> > > again.
> > > 

Hi

Why not use external eSATA/USB disks which are only connected and
powered up when required.

Very simple, very low disk usage, unlikely to fail ?
Multiple copies if required
Not power surge vulnerable
Can be stored off site

For day to day incremental backup eSATA/USB 32GB Throttle stick
Reasonably fast - in my pocket

John

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS Beer event London

2009-09-28 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 28/09/09 08:53, Mogens Kjaer wrote:
> On 09/28/2009 09:24 AM, Geerd-Dietger Hoffmann wrote:
>> Tuesday
>> 29th Oct 2009
>
> October 29th is a Thursday. Doesn't he mean September?

oops yes! 29th Sept!
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Re: [CentOS] Using yum with CentOS-2 mirrors

2009-09-28 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 28/09/09 04:17, Matt Arnilo S. Baluyos (Mailing Lists) wrote:
> [base]
> name=CentOS-2 base
> baseurl=http://mirror.centos.org/centos-2/i386/CentOS/
> ;baseurl=http://vault.centos.org/2.1/final/i386/CentOS/

that second url looks correct. Is it possible for you to post the 
complete trace from yum ?

- KB
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Re: [CentOS] Using yum with CentOS-2 mirrors

2009-09-28 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 28/09/09 04:17, Matt Arnilo S. Baluyos (Mailing Lists) wrote:
> [updates]
> name=CentOS-2 updates
> baseurl=http://mirror.centos.org/centos-2/updates/
> ;baseurl=http://vault.centos.org/2.1/updates/i386/

actually this one should be :
http://vault.centos.org/2.1/updates/

( without the i386 at the end )
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Re: [CentOS] Software Raids Questions (I have only ever used hardware?)

2009-09-28 Thread James Bensley
Hi All,

Thanks for all your replies. I understand what I have to do now and
have read several tutorials to get a good grasp of everything.

All your input has been greatly appreciated. Thank you all.

Regards,
James ;)
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[CentOS] IP aliases of CentOS Guests not accessible running 2.6.18-164.el5xen

2009-09-28 Thread Devraj Mukherjee
Hi all,

First of all I am posting this on two lists for a reason, because the
issue being reported by me could be because of a change delivered by a
Kernel update or due to Xen.

I have recently managed to update all Xen Guest domains running CentOS
5.3 to the latest bunch of updates + Kernel. My Xen host also runs the
same CentOS 5.3 updated to all recent packages.

The Guest images in concern had IP aliases assigned to them.
Everything worked until I ran the updates and restarted.

Since I have restarted the aliased IP addresses are no longer
accessible from the outside world, they can still be accessed from all
machines (guest virtual machines) in the subnet (ping, services like
http).

I have removed all firewall rules to test if that would have effected
it without any change (any the fact that I can access them within the
subnet proves its not the firewall).

Is there anything special I have to do to enable aliasing? May be this
is a Xen issue? I am suspecting the Xen host, but not sure how to go
about proving this.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

My Guests do run fail2ban (delivered via atrpms) and iptables
(allowing only HTTP, HTTPS and SSH) connections.

PS for obvious reasons I am not posting IP addresses and routes etc
first up, I can make that information available if required.

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Re: [CentOS] libqt4-qt3support Dependency Hell

2009-09-28 Thread Johnny Hughes
Please Read the information concerning "Guidelines for CentOS Mailing
List posts" at the bottom of this link:

http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=16

Specifically, it is much easier to follow a quoted e-mail on the list if
you do not "top post".

It is also better to set your e-mail client to send to the list as
"Text" and not "HTML" type.


> keepassx-0.4.1-4.1.i386
> 
> Fedora 11, I am going to try FED 10
>
> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Karanbir Singh  > wrote:
> 
> On 28/09/09 00:17, Eric Clark wrote:
> > Missing Dependency: libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.11) is needed by
> package
> > keepassx-0.4.1-4.1.i386 (/home/dtscorp/Desktop/LINUX_
> 
> yes, well - what distro was that binary rpm built for ?

With respect to installing RPMS ...

You CAN NOT install rpms built for one distribution on another
distribution ... let me explain why.

Linux uses "Shared Libraries" (as does Windows with .dll files).  The
point of a "Shared Library" is so that you only build the NEW things you
need for the program you are building, and you get the REST of the
information from files that are already available.

If you try to install packages built against Fedora 11 on CentOS 5 then
none of the "Shared Libraries" that the package was built against (the
versions in Fedora 11) are in CentOS 5, so it does not work.

It is sometimes possible to take Fedora "SOURCE RPMS" (a
.src.rpm) and build it on a CentOS 5 machine and then use
the resultant "Binary RPMS" on CentOS-5.

One should NEVER, EVER install "Binary RPMS" from one distribution on
another distribution ... doing will not work. The files are built
against different libraries and even if they install they will likely
not work.

As others have pointed out, there are other repositories available:

http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories

If what you need is not there, you will need to build it or convince
someone else to build it for you.

Thanks,
Johnny Hughes



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Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-28 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 09/27/2009 08:09 AM, Robert Heller wrote:
> At Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:13:04 +0200 CentOS mailing list  
> wrote:
> 
>>
>> m.r...@5-cent.us a écrit :
>>
>>> I'd add in the search RHEL, at least to start. Beyond that,
>>> some other distro, such as mandrake, may have compatible rpms.
>>
>> No! Never use Mandrake RPMS on RHEL.
> 
> Never say never:
> 
> I have *successfully* used RPMS from both Mandrake and SUSE on a CentOS
> 4.x system.  Both RPMs are somewhat specialized developemental ones
> though. 
> 

Sure, it is possible, if you get very lucky, to do so.  However, even if
packages install because a dependent library is available (take
/lib/libc.so.6 for example) it does not mean that they are similar
enough to work.

RHEL/CentOS glibc has dozens of patches that are different than Mandriva
or SUSE.  They also put things in and look for things from different
places than CentOS.

So, one should think long and hard before (at the very least) before
installing programs not built for/using CentOS/RHEL on CentOS.




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Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-28 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
>Of Marcelo M. Garcia
>Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:57 PM
>To: CentOS mailing list
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user
>
>Sorry, but Fedora is no longer a good desktop choice. I was a Fedora
>user, but the distribution is pushing to far the idea of cutting edge
>features.

Would you mind elaborating your view here?
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS Beer event London

2009-09-28 Thread Rohan Gilchrist
I'd love to attend, but tomorrow is my birthday and I've already made plans.

Regards,

Rohan.


Geerd-Dietger Hoffmann wrote:
> From Karan's blog:
>
> A few of us are going to be getting together for drinks on the Tuesday
> 29th Oct 2009, everyone is welcome to come along. I'll get there for
> about 18:15hrs and plan on being around till about 20:00 - Depending
> on how many people are around and what the feeling is - we might nip
> around to Ragam ( mostly authentic South Indian food ), a few doors
> down.
>
> There will be a demo for CentOS-5.4 as well! If there is anything
> specific you might want to see, let me know a bit in advance.
>
> The full address is :
> King & Queens,
> 1 Foley St,
> London,
> W1W 6DL‎
>
> Here [1] is a Google Street view of the place.
>
> If you email me, I'll get back with my mobile number - although it
> should be mostly easy to spot the 'CentOS Guys'.
>
> Hope to see you there, then!
>
> Karan + Didi
>
> [1]
> http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=cleveland+street,+london&sll=54.525475,-1.188697&sspn=1.059963,1.947327&g=cleveland&ie=UTF8&ll=51.520388,-0.138603&spn=0.00111,0.001902&z=19&layer=c&cbll=51.520304,-0.138508&panoid=-gbEysT71vRhFMeDk-ap2Q&cbp=12,257.64,,0,11.85
> 
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Re: [CentOS] problem installing CentOS 5.3

2009-09-28 Thread Yves Bellefeuille
On Monday 28 September 2009 00:30, Eric Clark wrote:

> Boot to linux, and type memtest86  let it run for about 10 or 20 
> minutes with the ram that you have installed 
>
> Typically anything over 6 errors on a 512 stick will bring mayhem to
> an OS,

Any errors at all when running memtest86 is unacceptable.

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[CentOS] fully open source ECM? yup.

2009-09-28 Thread Robert P. J. Day

  it's all about the open source, baby.

http://candyandaspirin.blogspot.com/2009/09/next-adventure-in-ecm-begins.html

DISCLAIMER:  the lady in question is a good friend of mine.  but don't
let that scare you off.  :-)

rday
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[CentOS] Any known problems with kernel-2.6.18-164.el5.x86_64 / x86_64 / 3ware?

2009-09-28 Thread mbneto
Hi,

I have a server that is running centos 5.3 x86_64 that until last week was
running fine.   With no error messages in console and in /var/log/messages
the server simply stops responding.

After a reboot everything is fine.   The only change (that I could find) but
that was not active before the first incident/reboot was the update of the
kernel and friends.

The server (is this can help) is a intel quad core, 8GB RAM , 3 x 1TB disks
(raid mirror with 2 active / 1 spare via 3ware controller)

Any known problem with the kernel-2.6.18-164.el5.x86_64? (I am assuming that
this would be the only thing that could cause the problem due to the lack of
other messages.

Regards.

yum.log
Sep 24 12:13:48 Updated: openssl-0.9.8e-12.el5.x86_64
Sep 24 12:13:49 Updated: mysql-5.0.77-3.el5.x86_64
Sep 24 12:13:49 Updated: nspr-4.7.5-1.el5_4.x86_64
Sep 24 12:13:49 Updated: openssl-0.9.8e-12.el5.i686
Sep 24 12:13:49 Installed: libXrender-0.9.1-3.1.i386
Sep 24 12:13:49 Installed: freetype-2.2.1-21.el5_3.i386
Sep 24 12:13:51 Installed: fontconfig-2.4.1-7.el5.i386
Sep 24 12:13:52 Updated: mysql-5.0.77-3.el5.i386
Sep 24 12:13:52 Installed: libjpeg-6b-37.i386
Sep 24 12:13:52 Installed: 2:libpng-1.2.10-7.1.el5_3.2.i386
Sep 24 12:13:52 Updated: openssh-4.3p2-36.el5.x86_64
Sep 24 12:13:52 Updated: gnutls-1.4.1-3.el5_3.5.x86_64
Sep 24 12:13:52 Installed: keyutils-1.2-1.el5.x86_64
Sep 24 12:13:52 Installed: cairo-1.2.4-5.el5.i386
Sep 24 12:13:52 Installed: libtiff-3.8.2-7.el5_3.4.i386
Sep 24 12:13:53 Installed: atk-1.12.2-1.fc6.i386
Sep 24 12:13:53 Installed: libXfixes-4.0.1-2.1.i386
Sep 24 12:13:53 Updated: lftp-3.7.11-4.el5.x86_64
Sep 24 12:13:53 Installed: trousers-0.3.1-4.el5.x86_64
Sep 24 12:13:53 Updated: ecryptfs-utils-75-5.el5.x86_64
Sep 24 12:13:53 Installed: libXcursor-1.1.7-1.1.i386
Sep 24 12:13:53 Installed: libXft-2.1.10-1.1.i386
Sep 24 12:13:53 Installed: pango-1.14.9-5.el5.centos.i386
Sep 24 12:13:53 Installed: libXrandr-1.1.1-3.1.i386
Sep 24 12:13:54 Updated: nspr-4.7.5-1.el5_4.i386
Sep 24 12:13:54 Installed: libXinerama-1.0.1-2.1.i386
Sep 24 12:13:54 Installed: gnutls-1.4.1-3.el5_3.5.i386
Sep 24 12:13:54 Updated: openssh-clients-4.3p2-36.el5.x86_64
Sep 24 12:13:54 Updated: openssh-server-4.3p2-36.el5.x86_64
Sep 24 12:13:55 Updated: mysql-server-5.0.77-3.el5.x86_64
Sep 24 12:13:56 Updated: 1:nfs-utils-1.0.9-42.el5.x86_64
Sep 24 12:13:56 Updated: dnsmasq-2.45-1.1.el5_3.x86_64
Sep 24 12:13:57 Updated: openssl-devel-0.9.8e-12.el5.x86_64
Sep 24 12:13:57 Updated: mysql-devel-5.0.77-3.el5.x86_64
Sep 24 12:13:57 Updated: mysql-devel-5.0.77-3.el5.i386
Sep 24 12:14:04 Installed: kernel-2.6.18-164.el5.x86_64
Sep 24 12:14:04 Updated: kernel-headers-2.6.18-164.el5.x86_64
Sep 24 12:14:04 Installed: 1:cups-libs-1.3.7-8.el5_3.6.i386
Sep 24 12:14:05 Installed: gtk2-2.10.4-20.el5.i386
Sep 24 12:14:05 Installed: trousers-0.3.1-4.el5.i386
Sep 24 12:14:05 Updated: ecryptfs-utils-75-5.el5.i386
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Re: [CentOS] Storing Kerberos database in OpenLDAP

2009-09-28 Thread Dan Burkland
I went ahead and gave the MIT Kerberos LDAP backed option a try. So far it 
seems to work quite well and nothing has crashed (yet :)). I'm going to run 
this setup for a couple weeks and see if I can break it.

Regards,

Dan Burkland

From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of 
mbneto
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 8:02 AM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: [CentOS] Any known problems with kernel-2.6.18-164.el5.x86_64 / x86_64 
/ 3ware?

Hi,

I have a server that is running centos 5.3 x86_64 that until last week was 
running fine.   With no error messages in console and in /var/log/messages the 
server simply stops responding.

After a reboot everything is fine.   The only change (that I could find) but 
that was not active before the first incident/reboot was the update of the 
kernel and friends.

The server (is this can help) is a intel quad core, 8GB RAM , 3 x 1TB disks 
(raid mirror with 2 active / 1 spare via 3ware controller)

Any known problem with the kernel-2.6.18-164.el5.x86_64? (I am assuming that 
this would be the only thing that could cause the problem due to the lack of 
other messages.

Regards.

yum.log
Sep 24 12:13:48 Updated: openssl-0.9.8e-12.el5.x86_64
Sep 24 12:13:49 Updated: mysql-5.0.77-3.el5.x86_64
Sep 24 12:13:49 Updated: nspr-4.7.5-1.el5_4.x86_64
Sep 24 12:13:49 Updated: openssl-0.9.8e-12.el5.i686
Sep 24 12:13:49 Installed: libXrender-0.9.1-3.1.i386
Sep 24 12:13:49 Installed: freetype-2.2.1-21.el5_3.i386
Sep 24 12:13:51 Installed: fontconfig-2.4.1-7.el5.i386
Sep 24 12:13:52 Updated: mysql-5.0.77-3.el5.i386
Sep 24 12:13:52 Installed: libjpeg-6b-37.i386
Sep 24 12:13:52 Installed: 2:libpng-1.2.10-7.1.el5_3.2.i386
Sep 24 12:13:52 Updated: openssh-4.3p2-36.el5.x86_64
Sep 24 12:13:52 Updated: gnutls-1.4.1-3.el5_3.5.x86_64
Sep 24 12:13:52 Installed: keyutils-1.2-1.el5.x86_64
Sep 24 12:13:52 Installed: cairo-1.2.4-5.el5.i386
Sep 24 12:13:52 Installed: libtiff-3.8.2-7.el5_3.4.i386
Sep 24 12:13:53 Installed: atk-1.12.2-1.fc6.i386
Sep 24 12:13:53 Installed: libXfixes-4.0.1-2.1.i386
Sep 24 12:13:53 Updated: lftp-3.7.11-4.el5.x86_64
Sep 24 12:13:53 Installed: trousers-0.3.1-4.el5.x86_64
Sep 24 12:13:53 Updated: ecryptfs-utils-75-5.el5.x86_64
Sep 24 12:13:53 Installed: libXcursor-1.1.7-1.1.i386
Sep 24 12:13:53 Installed: libXft-2.1.10-1.1.i386
Sep 24 12:13:53 Installed: pango-1.14.9-5.el5.centos.i386
Sep 24 12:13:53 Installed: libXrandr-1.1.1-3.1.i386
Sep 24 12:13:54 Updated: nspr-4.7.5-1.el5_4.i386
Sep 24 12:13:54 Installed: libXinerama-1.0.1-2.1.i386
Sep 24 12:13:54 Installed: gnutls-1.4.1-3.el5_3.5.i386
Sep 24 12:13:54 Updated: openssh-clients-4.3p2-36.el5.x86_64
Sep 24 12:13:54 Updated: openssh-server-4.3p2-36.el5.x86_64
Sep 24 12:13:55 Updated: mysql-server-5.0.77-3.el5.x86_64
Sep 24 12:13:56 Updated: 1:nfs-utils-1.0.9-42.el5.x86_64
Sep 24 12:13:56 Updated: dnsmasq-2.45-1.1.el5_3.x86_64
Sep 24 12:13:57 Updated: openssl-devel-0.9.8e-12.el5.x86_64
Sep 24 12:13:57 Updated: mysql-devel-5.0.77-3.el5.x86_64
Sep 24 12:13:57 Updated: mysql-devel-5.0.77-3.el5.i386
Sep 24 12:14:04 Installed: kernel-2.6.18-164.el5.x86_64
Sep 24 12:14:04 Updated: kernel-headers-2.6.18-164.el5.x86_64
Sep 24 12:14:04 Installed: 1:cups-libs-1.3.7-8.el5_3.6.i386
Sep 24 12:14:05 Installed: gtk2-2.10.4-20.el5.i386
Sep 24 12:14:05 Installed: trousers-0.3.1-4.el5.i386
Sep 24 12:14:05 Updated: ecryptfs-utils-75-5.el5.i386
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Re: [CentOS] Any known problems with kernel-2.6.18-164.el5.x86_64 / x86_64 / 3ware?

2009-09-28 Thread John Austin
On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 09:02 -0400, mbneto wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have a server that is running centos 5.3 x86_64 that until last week
> was running fine.   With no error messages in console and
> in /var/log/messages the server simply stops responding. 
> 
> After a reboot everything is fine.   The only change (that I could
> find) but that was not active before the first incident/reboot was the
> update of the kernel and friends.
> 
> The server (is this can help) is a intel quad core, 8GB RAM , 3 x 1TB
> disks (raid mirror with 2 active / 1 spare via 3ware controller)
> 
> Any known problem with the kernel-2.6.18-164.el5.x86_64? (I am
> assuming that this would be the only thing that could cause the
> problem due to the lack of other messages.
> 
> Regards.
> 
> yum.log
> Sep 24 12:13:48 Updated: openssl-0.9.8e-12.el5.x86_64
> Sep 24 12:13:49 Updated: mysql-5.0.77-3.el5.x86_64
> Sep 24 12:13:49 Updated: nspr-4.7.5-1.el5_4.x86_64
> Sep 24 12:13:49 Updated: openssl-0.9.8e-12.el5.i686
> Sep 24 12:13:49 Installed: libXrender-0.9.1-3.1.i386
> Sep 24 12:13:49 Installed: freetype-2.2.1-21.el5_3.i386
> Sep 24 12:13:51 Installed: fontconfig-2.4.1-7.el5.i386
> Sep 24 12:13:52 Updated: mysql-5.0.77-3.el5.i386
> Sep 24 12:13:52 Installed: libjpeg-6b-37.i386
> Sep 24 12:13:52 Installed: 2:libpng-1.2.10-7.1.el5_3.2.i386
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> Sep 24 12:13:52 Installed: keyutils-1.2-1.el5.x86_64
> Sep 24 12:13:52 Installed: cairo-1.2.4-5.el5.i386
> Sep 24 12:13:52 Installed: libtiff-3.8.2-7.el5_3.4.i386
> Sep 24 12:13:53 Installed: atk-1.12.2-1.fc6.i386
> Sep 24 12:13:53 Installed: libXfixes-4.0.1-2.1.i386
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> Sep 24 12:13:53 Installed: libXft-2.1.10-1.1.i386
> Sep 24 12:13:53 Installed: pango-1.14.9-5.el5.centos.i386
> Sep 24 12:13:53 Installed: libXrandr-1.1.1-3.1.i386
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Hi

Are you using nfs4 ?

Could it be the fact that nfs4 does not work with this kernel ?

This bit me hard
Revert to the previous kernel or use nfs3

http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=3840
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524520

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Re: [CentOS] Software Raids Questions (I have only ever used hardware?)

2009-09-28 Thread Ross Walker
On Sep 27, 2009, at 9:35 PM, Karanbir Singh   
wrote:

> On 28/09/09 02:11, Ross Walker wrote:
>>> Eg. to convert this setup into a raid-5 : start with a 1 disk raid-1
>>> degraded, move a disks worth of data onto there, bring in the second
>>> disk and let them sync into a 'normal' raid1 state, then convert  
>>> that
>>> into a raid-5 with the 3rd disk. then bring in the 4th disk as
>>> hotspare.
>>>
>>> with TiB's worth of data, its not going to be quick.
>>
>> Can you convert a RAID0 to a RAID5?
>
> How would you create a 1 disk degraded raid0 :) well, you could - but
> you wont get any data onto it! So you would need to start with 2  
> disks,
> and with that you then need to store 2 disks worth of stuff somewhere
> while this is building[1].

Can't you start with a single disk raid0 and expand? I think that is  
possible no? Then with a two disk raid0 add a parity disk (raid4) then  
distribute the parity for a raid5.

Of course if Linux RAID doesn't support that then it can't be done  
yet, but it would be possible.

-Ross
  
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Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.3 - kickstart configuration

2009-09-28 Thread Alan McKay
> Finally, where on the installation cd’s would I place this kickstart file ?

See the instructions I sent out a few weeks ago on how to set up your
own KS server


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS Beer event London

2009-09-28 Thread Bill Quinn
Unfortunately too short notice, or I would have welcomed the opportunity
to meet up, have a beer, maybe some curry and say hello.

Bill

-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf Of Karanbir Singh
Sent: 28 September 2009 09:36
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS Beer event London

On 28/09/09 08:53, Mogens Kjaer wrote:
> On 09/28/2009 09:24 AM, Geerd-Dietger Hoffmann wrote:
>> Tuesday
>> 29th Oct 2009
>
> October 29th is a Thursday. Doesn't he mean September?

oops yes! 29th Sept!
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[CentOS] rpmstrap/rpmbootstrap to boostrap CentOS 5

2009-09-28 Thread Santi Saez

Hi,

Is there any working script, similar to deboostrap, for CentOS 5?

I have found rpmstrap [1] at RPMforge.. but only works for CentOS-4, and 
appears that's out of date.

thanks!

[1] http://dag.wieers.com/rpm/packages/rpmstrap/

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Re: [CentOS] rpmstrap/rpmbootstrap to boostrap CentOS 5

2009-09-28 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 28/09/09 17:27, Santi Saez wrote:
> Is there any working script, similar to deboostrap, for CentOS 5?

yum --installroot ;

tends to do most of what people want with rpmstrap. Does that tick the 
box for you ?

the other workaround is to use mock and build the chroot using that.

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Re: [CentOS] rpmstrap/rpmbootstrap to boostrap CentOS 5

2009-09-28 Thread Matthew Kent
On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 18:27 +0200, Santi Saez wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Is there any working script, similar to deboostrap, for CentOS 5?
> 
> I have found rpmstrap [1] at RPMforge.. but only works for CentOS-4, and 
> appears that's out of date.
> 
> thanks!
> 
> [1] http://dag.wieers.com/rpm/packages/rpmstrap/
> 

http://et.redhat.com/~rjones/febootstrap/

Available via EPEL and works with CentOS.
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Re: [CentOS] rsync followup - what did I run?

2009-09-28 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Hi,

On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 22:41, Scott Ehrlich  wrote:
> Many people have wondered what my rsync syntax was -
>
> [as root]: rsync -av /path/to/source m...@remote-host:/path/to/dest

Is /path/to/source mounted NFS?

What happens if you run it as your own user?

> I'll be adjusting it to adapt to perform incrementals, probably with --update.

You probably don't need that, as rsync will detect if files are
identical. If you use --update it means that if the file is updated on
the destination it won't be replaced with the one in the source, which
is probably not what you want if the destination is to be used as a
backup.

> So, just need to learn why some of the .dotfiles, and other unknown
> files (unless I ran a diff) didn't successfully copy over.

Can you show what "ls -la /path/to/source" shows (considering the
.dotfiles are directly under that directory)?

Do you have any error messages when you run the rsync command?

HTH,
Filipe
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Re: [CentOS] Warning in update

2009-09-28 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Hi,

On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 12:08, Daniel Bruno
 wrote:
> I did a "ls -la" in /usr/lib/libtcl8.4*, and show this result:
>
> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 683136 Jul 25  2008 /usr/lib/libtcl8.4.so
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root      0 Set 10  2008 /usr/lib/libtcl8.4.so;48c78993
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root   4096 Set 11  2008 /usr/lib/libtcl8.4.so;48c8dd6a
>
> Somebody know what is "/usr/lib/libtcl8.4.so;48c78993" and
> "/usr/lib/libtcl8.4.so;48c8dd6a"?

I believe those are result of a failed install of an RPM, where it had
time to unpack the files (or start unpacking them) but not to finish
writing them and renaming into the definitive names. This might have
happened if the machine crashed in the middle of an RPM install.

> I can remove it?

I believe you can, after all I don't think any applications would try
to access those files. I suggest moving them somewhere else or backing
them up just in case...

HTH,
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS Beer event London

2009-09-28 Thread Bob Taylor

On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 08:24 +0100, Geerd-Dietger Hoffmann wrote:
> >From Karan's blog:
> 
> A few of us are going to be getting together for drinks on the Tuesday
> 29th Oct 2009, everyone is welcome to come along. I'll get there for
> about 18:15hrs and plan on being around till about 20:00 - Depending
> on how many people are around and what the feeling is - we might nip
> around to Ragam ( mostly authentic South Indian food ), a few doors
> down.

[snip]

Quick! Send U.S. dollars for 1 round trip ticket from Yuma, AZ U.S. and
I will be there! :-}
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Re: [CentOS] Any known problems with kernel-2.6.18-164.el5.x86_64 / x86_64 / 3ware?

2009-09-28 Thread David Tauriainen
> I have a server that is running centos 5.3 x86_64 that until last week was
> running fine.   With no error messages in console and in /var/log/messages
> the server simply stops responding.

I posted the following bug to RedHat yesterday for similar symptoms
with RHEL 5.4, same kernel.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525898

I happen to have a 3ware raid card, but didn't think of it as a
culprit.  Were you seeing any soft lockup messages with kswapd0 in
/var/log/messages?
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[CentOS] Antispam with Postfix

2009-09-28 Thread Joseph L. Casale
I am mulling over the thought of replacing my current solution, it
works very well except for the following two issues:

1. LDAP recip verification for only one server, this gateway services multiple
domains who's directories are independent. I need to be able to verify the
various domains off of independent servers.

2. I use backup mx's, my current solution probably could work in this scenario 
but
the support mechanism behind it is *very* weak and I can't get a perfect setup
working. Spam hits the primary for a domain, gets blocked and then tries my 
secondary
which sometimes accepts it, after which the primary always accepts from the 
secondary.

What are some setups that use Postfix which you guys are having very good 
success
with that isn't a burden to administer. The last thing I want to do is replace 
my one
single app with many:)

Thanks for any ideas!
jlc
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Re: [CentOS] Antispam with Postfix

2009-09-28 Thread Bowie Bailey
Joseph L. Casale wrote:
> I am mulling over the thought of replacing my current solution, it
> works very well except for the following two issues:
>
> 1. LDAP recip verification for only one server, this gateway services multiple
> domains who's directories are independent. I need to be able to verify the
> various domains off of independent servers.
>
> 2. I use backup mx's, my current solution probably could work in this 
> scenario but
> the support mechanism behind it is *very* weak and I can't get a perfect setup
> working. Spam hits the primary for a domain, gets blocked and then tries my 
> secondary
> which sometimes accepts it, after which the primary always accepts from the 
> secondary.
>   

If you have a secondary mx, it MUST have the same (if not more
aggressive) spam prevention as your primary for this exact reason.  You
also need to make sure that the secondary can reject mail for
non-existent users so you don't send backscatter when the primary
rejects the mail.

> What are some setups that use Postfix which you guys are having very good 
> success
> with that isn't a burden to administer. The last thing I want to do is 
> replace my one
> single app with many:)
>   

Can't help you there.  I don't use Postfix.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-28 Thread Marcelo M. Garcia
Sorin Srbu wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
> Behalf
>> Of Marcelo M. Garcia
>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:57 PM
>> To: CentOS mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user
>>
>> Sorry, but Fedora is no longer a good desktop choice. I was a Fedora
>> user, but the distribution is pushing to far the idea of cutting edge
>> features.
> 
> Would you mind elaborating your view here?
> 
Hi

To be honest there isn't much to elaborate. I understand the goal Fedora 
project to test the latest software available. In this way, Fedora isn't 
for everyone. At least is not for your main system, but if you have a 
spare machine to install and play with it, it's probably a good idea. In 
my case, the rpmfusion NVIDIA driver didn't like my card, a Quadro NVS280.

I there are too many updates, and sometimes they crash something. I 
remember while using Fedora 10, after disappointment with F9, after an 
update, the sound stopped to work. I didn't like the idea of Thunderbird 
beta in F 12. Also, the external drives are mounted using the uuid(?) 
name, so instead of /media/disk, appears something like 
/media/88299233ddd22, which breaks my backup/recover script. And a few 
other thinks. My general option was that the experience wasn't good, or 
put in another way, Ubuntu works better.

None of this is critical, but it is annoying. For me, a good 
distribuition would be something seating between Fedora and CentOS. In 
the last months I started thinking that Ubuntu feel this gap. I still 
believe that CentOS is best option for servers and technical 
workstations, but not for my laptop, a Dell XPS M1530.

Regards

mg.
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-28 Thread Matt
>> I'm thinking of giving CentOS to a non-tech user for her new desktop.  He
>> needs are small.  She has been used to Mozilla for both mail and browsing, so
>> equivalents there are not a problem.  She needs grip and lame, for her mp3s -
>> again no problem.
>
> Desktop, non-techie - use Ubuntu instead.
>
> I'm a big CentOS fan, I joined even the Facebook group (lol), but its

Thats my thought as well.  Ubuntu desktop and CentOS for servers.
Just wandering if anyone is using the 'Ubuntu Server Edition's'?  They
seem appealing but CentOS is what I am used too on servers now.
Thought about loading it up on a box to just try though.

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Re: [CentOS] Antispam with Postfix

2009-09-28 Thread Ned Slider
Bowie Bailey wrote:
> Joseph L. Casale wrote:
>>
>> 2. I use backup mx's, my current solution probably could work in this 
>> scenario but
>> the support mechanism behind it is *very* weak and I can't get a perfect 
>> setup
>> working. Spam hits the primary for a domain, gets blocked and then tries my 
>> secondary
>> which sometimes accepts it, after which the primary always accepts from the 
>> secondary.
>>   
> 
> If you have a secondary mx, it MUST have the same (if not more
> aggressive) spam prevention as your primary for this exact reason.  You
> also need to make sure that the secondary can reject mail for
> non-existent users so you don't send backscatter when the primary
> rejects the mail.
> 

Personally I'd just drop the secondary mx completely and let the sending 
smtp server queue the mail whenever you're offline. Makes life a lot 
simpler.

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[CentOS] Updating an AntiVirus trougth a proxy (ERROR)

2009-09-28 Thread Alberto García Gómez
Here is my problem

[r...@shannon CGPMcAfee]# ./updateDatFiles
CGPMcAfee DAT files update program version 2.2
Local avvDAT version is 5726
Connecting to 'update.nai.com' [72.247.238.178:80] via HTTP protocol...
 *** failed to connect: socket error

The problem is that I can't change the script and I'm under a proxy server, 
but the updater ignore it. Same happen with others updaters

WHAT CAN I DO?

Best Regards

Saludos Fraternales
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Atte.
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Re: [CentOS] Updating an AntiVirus trougth a proxy (ERROR)

2009-09-28 Thread M. Hamzah Khan
On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 17:49 -0400, Alberto García Gómez wrote:
> Here is my problem
> 
> [r...@shannon CGPMcAfee]# ./updateDatFiles
> CGPMcAfee DAT files update program version 2.2
> Local avvDAT version is 5726
> Connecting to 'update.nai.com' [72.247.238.178:80] via HTTP protocol...
>  *** failed to connect: socket error
> 
> The problem is that I can't change the script and I'm under a proxy server, 
> but the updater ignore it. Same happen with others updaters
> 
> WHAT CAN I DO?
> 

I'm not sure if it'll work with that specific updater, but maybe try:

export http_proxy="http://$USERNAME:$passw...@$proxy_address:$PORT";

Regards

Hamzah

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-28 Thread Robert Heller
At Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:29:12 -0500 CentOS mailing list  
wrote:

> 
> >> I'm thinking of giving CentOS to a non-tech user for her new desktop.  He
> >> needs are small.  She has been used to Mozilla for both mail and 
> >> browsing, so
> >> equivalents there are not a problem.  She needs grip and lame, for her 
> >> mp3s -
> >> again no problem.
> >
> > Desktop, non-techie - use Ubuntu instead.
> >
> > I'm a big CentOS fan, I joined even the Facebook group (lol), but its
> 
> Thats my thought as well.  Ubuntu desktop and CentOS for servers.
> Just wandering if anyone is using the 'Ubuntu Server Edition's'?  They
> seem appealing but CentOS is what I am used too on servers now.
> Thought about loading it up on a box to just try though.

I use CentOS on my desktop and my Laptop.

It is also the version I set up at the local library(1), which *used* to
have Ubuntu.  There where two main problems with Ubuntu:

1) Ubuntu really needs more frequent total updates (it is not a
long-term stable release).  The Ubuntu system that was on the local
library's server was unable to get updates (apt-get would fail -- I
ended up manually downloading packages and installing by hand (using raw
dpkg commands -- ala using raw rpm instead of yum).  

2) Ubuntu generally sucked as a server O/S -- it was trying to be way
too clever about some things -- drove me up the wall (doing *stupid*
things like constantly automounting the USB connected backup disk
whenever someone logged in and swaping the ethernet cards around,
seemingly at random).

CentOS as a desktop system (or laptop) is perfectly fine, *even for
non-techies*, which would most of the users at the local library.  I
guess the only issue would be in terms of support for really new
hardware (which is not an issue at the local library, since the
hardware not this years model).  One can get the 'missing' multimedia
goodies from RPMForge or EPel (or even from Adobe's repo [flash and
acroread]).  

(1) 
http://www.deepsoft.com/2009/08/setting-up-thin-clients-at-the-wendell-free-library-part-1/
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-28 Thread aurfalien
I'd like to chime in on this.

Being techy. nothing really bugs me as I think its all POS.

However I do think the Linux desktop is not so good in general.

I've been a big fan of Irix and used to maintain it when it was the  
golden child of the Unix desktop.

I've been following the 5dwm project for a while;

http://www.maxxdesktop.com/site/

Anyways, check it out, hope ppl find it use full.  Eric Masson was  
brilliant for getting this project up and running.


On Sep 28, 2009, at 4:57 PM, Robert Heller wrote:

> At Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:29:12 -0500 CentOS mailing list  > wrote:
>
>>
 I'm thinking of giving CentOS to a non-tech user for her new  
 desktop.  He
 needs are small.  She has been used to Mozilla for both mail and  
 browsing, so
 equivalents there are not a problem.  She needs grip and lame,  
 for her mp3s -
 again no problem.
>>>
>>> Desktop, non-techie - use Ubuntu instead.
>>>
>>> I'm a big CentOS fan, I joined even the Facebook group (lol), but  
>>> its
>>
>> Thats my thought as well.  Ubuntu desktop and CentOS for servers.
>> Just wandering if anyone is using the 'Ubuntu Server Edition's'?   
>> They
>> seem appealing but CentOS is what I am used too on servers now.
>> Thought about loading it up on a box to just try though.
>
> I use CentOS on my desktop and my Laptop.
>
> It is also the version I set up at the local library(1), which  
> *used* to
> have Ubuntu.  There where two main problems with Ubuntu:
>
> 1) Ubuntu really needs more frequent total updates (it is not a
> long-term stable release).  The Ubuntu system that was on the local
> library's server was unable to get updates (apt-get would fail -- I
> ended up manually downloading packages and installing by hand (using  
> raw
> dpkg commands -- ala using raw rpm instead of yum).
>
> 2) Ubuntu generally sucked as a server O/S -- it was trying to be way
> too clever about some things -- drove me up the wall (doing *stupid*
> things like constantly automounting the USB connected backup disk
> whenever someone logged in and swaping the ethernet cards around,
> seemingly at random).
>
> CentOS as a desktop system (or laptop) is perfectly fine, *even for
> non-techies*, which would most of the users at the local library.  I
> guess the only issue would be in terms of support for really new
> hardware (which is not an issue at the local library, since the
> hardware not this years model).  One can get the 'missing' multimedia
> goodies from RPMForge or EPel (or even from Adobe's repo [flash and
> acroread]).
>
> (1) 
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Re: [CentOS] Antispam with Postfix

2009-09-28 Thread Christopher Chan
Joseph L. Casale wrote:
> I am mulling over the thought of replacing my current solution, it
> works very well except for the following two issues:
>
> 1. LDAP recip verification for only one server, this gateway services multiple
> domains who's directories are independent. I need to be able to verify the
> various domains off of independent servers.
>   
Postfix can handle that. You can have multiple lookup tables/maps. They 
do not even have to be the same type of database.


> 2. I use backup mx's, my current solution probably could work in this 
> scenario but
> the support mechanism behind it is *very* weak and I can't get a perfect setup
> working. Spam hits the primary for a domain, gets blocked and then tries my 
> secondary
> which sometimes accepts it, after which the primary always accepts from the 
> secondary.
>   
Like others have already said, lose it or fix it.


> What are some setups that use Postfix which you guys are having very good 
> success
> with that isn't a burden to administer. The last thing I want to do is 
> replace my one
> single app with many:)

postfix + spamass-milter will do it.
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-28 Thread Christopher Chan
Matt wrote:
>>> I'm thinking of giving CentOS to a non-tech user for her new desktop.  He
>>> needs are small.  She has been used to Mozilla for both mail and browsing, 
>>> so
>>> equivalents there are not a problem.  She needs grip and lame, for her mp3s 
>>> -
>>> again no problem.
>>>   
>> Desktop, non-techie - use Ubuntu instead.
>>
>> I'm a big CentOS fan, I joined even the Facebook group (lol), but its
>> 
>
> Thats my thought as well.  Ubuntu desktop and CentOS for servers.
> Just wandering if anyone is using the 'Ubuntu Server Edition's'?  They
> seem appealing but CentOS is what I am used too on servers now.
> Thought about loading it up on a box to just try though.
>   


Ubuntu for desktop is really a give and take. You get some stuff 
conveniently done for you like Nvidia drivers (which, I believe is also 
doable on Centos with a certain repo...cannot remember which) but you 
may also have to handle random crap like Network Manager not setting 
things up properly.


Centos as a desktop is good enough if you do not need the latest version 
of Firefox or other stuff.
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Re: [CentOS] Updating an AntiVirus trougth a proxy (ERROR)

2009-09-28 Thread Spiro Harvey

Alberto, please don't reply to a previous email and change the subject
line. Click on New Message when starting a new topic.

You screw up the threading, and is considered thread hijacking.


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[CentOS] RHEL 6/Upstart

2009-09-28 Thread Christopher Chan
Has a beta been released and if so can anybody say whether it uses Upstart?

or Has anyone worked with Upstart?
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Re: [CentOS] problem installing CentOS 5.3

2009-09-28 Thread Buz Davis
>
> Eric Clark wrote:
> have you tried getting KDE to run?
>   
Eric,

Thanks, that's a good suggestion to try KDE - so far I haven't figured 
out how to install it short of a complete reinstall.  If I run yom I get 
a message to the effect that a database is malformed.  It downs't say if 
the database is mine or the morrors, though.  What should I do about that ?

I hould have mentioned that I ran memtest86 after installing some new 
memory (this was before my last install of CentOS).  I let it complete 
one pass (about an hour and a half) and it found no errors.

Thanks,

Buz Davis
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[CentOS] Finally got keepass installed

2009-09-28 Thread Eric Clark
well I finally got Keepass installed on CentOS

The libraries for qt4 are actually located at pbone as well as keepass.

I would love to know how to add pbone.net as a trusted repo in Yum,

just for you guys that like to work with cross operating systems and having
a password manager.
Keepass is pretty good for all platforms and I even have it on my
blackberry.
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[CentOS] Stupid Question (Linux antivirus)

2009-09-28 Thread Eric Clark
Is there a real big need for having an anti-virus on linux?

if so what are some good ones to use?
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Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6/Upstart

2009-09-28 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Christopher Chan
 wrote:
> Has a beta been released and if so can anybody say whether it uses Upstart?
>
> or Has anyone worked with Upstart?
> ___

No beta has been released. No ETA for a beta has been released. It
will most likely be based off of a Fedora release close to when the
Beta comes out so I would expect it to have Upstart in it. The best
way to figure out how Upstart etc works would probably be to run
Fedora 11/12 in a KVM.

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Re: [CentOS] Stupid Question (Linux antivirus)

2009-09-28 Thread nate
Eric Clark wrote:
> Is there a real big need for having an anti-virus on linux?

Not unless your running a mail server or file server that
serves clients that are vulnerable to viruses.


> if so what are some good ones to use?

I've always liked Sophos myself, very high quality.

nate


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Re: [CentOS] Antispam with Postfix

2009-09-28 Thread Joseph L. Casale
>Postfix can handle that. You can have multiple lookup tables/maps. They
>do not even have to be the same type of database.

I guess I can leave that part upto Postfix, but I still need a antispam
addin...

I asked on the Postfix list a while ago whether multiple LDAP server lookups
could be configured and received no response. I assumed no one had done it.
I'll just have to reserve some time to actually try it!

>Like others have already said, lose it or fix it.

Well, therein lies my trouble. With the poor support around my current product
I can't fix it (Don't know how). I had to loosen up the primary so it would stop
rejecting good mail from the secondary, it's nothing short of a proper mess, I
know. Hence the look for alternatives

>postfix + spamass-milter will do it.

I'll give a second look at sa, I haven't looked at it in a while (years) but 
remember
it being rather indepth.

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Re: [CentOS] Stupid Question (Linux antivirus)

2009-09-28 Thread Ian Blackwell
Eric Clark wrote:
> Is there a real big need for having an anti-virus on linux?
>
> if so what are some good ones to use?
> 
Will the software be used in a commercial environment?  If not, then you
could use AVG from Grisoft:-
http://free.avg.com/download
I've used it for a couple of years now and haven't had any problems. 
Come to think of it, it hasn't found any viruses either!?!?!  Perhaps
I've been lucky, but I prefer to believe my email server is fairly good
at rejecting spam etc.

If you are using it in a commercial environment, you can purchase a
subscription server licence for Linux from them.
http://www.avg.com/product-avg-server-edition-for-linux

Regards,

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Re: [CentOS] Antispam with Postfix

2009-09-28 Thread Christopher Chan
Joseph L. Casale wrote:
>> Postfix can handle that. You can have multiple lookup tables/maps. They
>> do not even have to be the same type of database.
>> 
>
> I guess I can leave that part upto Postfix, but I still need a antispam
> addin...
>   
spamassassin via spamass-milter. Fast, no complicated smtp 
proxy/multiple queue setup needed and not as resource intensive as some 
other solutions.


> I asked on the Postfix list a while ago whether multiple LDAP server lookups
> could be configured and received no response. I assumed no one had done it.
> I'll just have to reserve some time to actually try it!
>   
:-D

I have not bothered with that list in ages. You can put multiple ldap 
table lookups directives in main.cf. Each directive has its own 
configuration. If you are not going to rewrite the recipient address, 
put the domains in the 'relay_domains' list (you can put a filename here 
and put the domains in that file) and then feed the list of ldap lookups 
to 'relay_recipient_maps'.

Eg:

relay_recipient_maps = ldap:/etc/postfix/domain1.cf, 
ldap:/etc/postfix/domain2.cf
   ldap:/etc/postfix/domain3.cf 
(they do not need to be on one line but the continuation must be indented)

Each domainX.cf should have a 'domain' parameter to prevent unnecessary 
queries. Eg: domain1.cf should have a domain = domain1 entry.
Ldap configuration file information:
http://www.postfix.org/ldap_table.5.html
>   
>> Like others have already said, lose it or fix it.
>> 
>
> Well, therein lies my trouble. With the poor support around my current product
> I can't fix it (Don't know how). I had to loosen up the primary so it would 
> stop
> rejecting good mail from the secondary, it's nothing short of a proper mess, I
> know. Hence the look for alternatives
>
>   
Your secondary should have the same filtering setup. Also, a queueing 
secondary is absolutely useless. Just let the mails queue at their 
original servers. If they bounce due to stringent rules (one hour delay 
and boom! that's it) then let them. Better that they know the mail has 
not gone through than to think it has and wonder why there has been no 
reply for the next two/three days. People have this 'instant' concept 
about email. I would not bother with a 'secondary' anymore.


>> postfix + spamass-milter will do it.
>> 
>
> I'll give a second look at sa, I haven't looked at it in a while (years) but 
> remember
> it being rather indepth.
>
>   


Yeah, if you need to some tweaking of rules.
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-28 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
>Of Marcelo M. Garcia
>Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 11:08 PM
>To: CentOS mailing list
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user
>
>>> Sorry, but Fedora is no longer a good desktop choice. I was a Fedora
>>> user, but the distribution is pushing to far the idea of cutting edge
>>> features.
>>
>> Would you mind elaborating your view here?
>
>To be honest there isn't much to elaborate. I understand the goal Fedora
>project to test the latest software available. In this way, Fedora isn't
>for everyone. At least is not for your main system, but if you have a
>spare machine to install and play with it, it's probably a good idea. In
>my case, the rpmfusion NVIDIA driver didn't like my card, a Quadro NVS280.
>
>I there are too many updates, and sometimes they crash something. I
>remember while using Fedora 10, after disappointment with F9, after an
>update, the sound stopped to work. I didn't like the idea of Thunderbird
>beta in F 12. Also, the external drives are mounted using the uuid(?)
>name, so instead of /media/disk, appears something like
>/media/88299233ddd22, which breaks my backup/recover script. And a few
>other thinks. My general option was that the experience wasn't good, or
>put in another way, Ubuntu works better.

Uuid doesn't look like something I'd like to see anywhere soon on my
systems... I'll look into that though. I'd like to know the point with it.


>None of this is critical, but it is annoying. For me, a good
>distribuition would be something seating between Fedora and CentOS. In
>the last months I started thinking that Ubuntu feel this gap. I still
>believe that CentOS is best option for servers and technical
>workstations, but not for my laptop, a Dell XPS M1530.

Thanks for the reply. As I can see from above, your opinions basically
mirror my own with respect to Fedora. 

However, my opinion is that CentOS fits almost everywhere. In fact, I'm just
finishing up a CentOS install on a Compaq Evo N610c - a portable. I've done
this before and it has worked fine with the exception where a wifi-card in
involved. This most often gives me grief.
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-28 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
>Of Matt
>Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 11:29 PM
>To: CentOS mailing list
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user
>
>Thats my thought as well.  Ubuntu desktop and CentOS for servers.
>Just wandering if anyone is using the 'Ubuntu Server Edition's'?  They
>seem appealing but CentOS is what I am used too on servers now.
>Thought about loading it up on a box to just try though.

Not using, but I've tried it in a LAMP-configuration couple of years ago.
Stability seems ok, but personally I don't like the sudo this and sudo that
and sudo everywhere. Besides, it felt somehow clunky. CentOS seemed slim,
slick and fast compared at the time, so CentOS is what I got stuck with (in
an endearing sense of course).

HTH.
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-28 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
>Of Christopher Chan
>Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 2:35 AM
>To: CentOS mailing list
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user
>
>Ubuntu for desktop is really a give and take. You get some stuff
>conveniently done for you like Nvidia drivers (which, I believe is also
>doable on Centos with a certain repo...cannot remember which) but you
>may also have to handle random crap like Network Manager not setting
>things up properly.

Rpmforge, dkms and the nvidia-dkms-package. Works like a charm. You can't
but love it. 8-)
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