Re: [CentOS] yum issue with extras repo?

2009-09-10 Thread Ralph Angenendt

On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 15:09 -0600, drew einhorn wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Dave Stevens wrote:
> >> As you can see below I am having a problem checking for updates. This
> >> happens repeatedly. I have to kill the process then rerun. I have
> >> tried "yum clean all" but no joy - the process hangs again on "extras"
> > I suspect it is the non-CentOS repos that are causing the hang (?).
> >
> > You might want to check that by running:
> >
> > yum update --disablerepo=\* --enablerepo=base,extras,updates
> >
> > and see if this one runs fine.
> 
> This will get things back to standard repos only.
> 
> But if you have already loaded an incompatible package  from a
> nonstandard repo, this will not fix it.

This is related to the problem at hand how?

> Rather than trying to figure out what you have and how to fix it,
> it may be easier to start over an build a new system from scratch.

This isn't Windows.

> You can probably get the 3rd party repos to play nicer with one another
> by using yum-priorities.

This is related to the problem at hand how?

> There are techniques for finer grained management of
> compatiblity issues among repositories, that I have never
> needed to learn about.  Someday this is going to sneak
> up and bite me.

Yes, probably, but still not related to the problem at hand.

> Pretty sure there is a 3rd party repo page in the centos wiki.

Yes, but you couldn't be bothered to check, could you?

Sometimes it would be smarter to not try to help.

Ralph

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Re: [CentOS] waiting IOs...

2009-09-10 Thread James Pearson
John Doe wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> We have a storage server (HP DL360G5 + MSA20 (12 disks in RAID 6) on a 
> SmartArray6400).
> 10 directories are exported through nfs to 10 clients 
> (rsize=32768,wsize=32768,soft,intr,nosuid,proto=udp,vers=3).
> The server is apparently not doing much but... we have very high waiting IOs.

Probably not connected, but personally I would use 'hard' and 
'proto=tcp' instead of 'soft' and 'proto=udp' on the clients

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[CentOS] Excessive NFS operations

2009-09-10 Thread lhecking

 Reading the "waiting IOs" thread made me remember I have a similar problem
 that has been here for months, and I have no sulution yet.

 A single CentOS 5.2 x86_64 machine here is overloading our NetApp filer with
 excessive NFS getattr, lookup and access operations. The weird thing is that
 the number of these operations increases over time. I have an mrtg graph
 (which I didn't want to attach here) showing e.g. 200 NFS Ops on Monday,
 measured with filer-mrtg, going up to, e.g. 1200 in a straight line within
 days. nfsstat -l on the filer proves beyond doubt that the load is caused by
 this particular machine. dstat shows me which NFS operations are causing it.

  date/time   | null  gatr  satr  look  aces ...
10-09 12:22:52|   0 0 0 0 0
10-09 12:22:53|   0   525 0   602   602
10-09 12:22:54|   0  1275 0  1464  1438
10-09 12:22:55|   0 0 0 0 0
10-09 12:22:56|   0 0 0 0 0
10-09 12:22:57|   0 0 0 0 0
10-09 12:22:58|   0   238 0   270   270
10-09 12:22:59|   0  1461 0  1663  1660
10-09 12:23:00|   0   205 0   133   114
10-09 12:23:01|   0 0 0 0 0
10-09 12:23:02|   0 1 0 0 0
10-09 12:23:03|   0 0 0 0 0
10-09 12:23:04|   0  1411 0  1574  1574
10-09 12:23:05|   0   498 0   465   466
10-09 12:23:06|   0 0 0 0 0
10-09 12:23:07|   0 0 0 0 0
10-09 12:23:08|   0 0 0 0 0
10-09 12:23:09|   0  1082 0  1178  1192
10-09 12:23:10|   0   790 0   885   865

 This behaviour is somehow tied to the Gnome desktop. I have other machines
 running CentOS 5.2 x86_64 (at init level 3) which don't show this behaviour.
 I also have CentOS 5.2 i386 machines which don't show it either. None of the
 other machines on the lan show it - RHEL3 32 and 64bit, Solaris.

 What I'd need is a monitoring tool than can tie the NFS ops to process ids
 or applications. lsof isn't nearly as helpful here as I thought. I even copied
 this workstation user's files to another account, logged in and ran the same
 apps - and couldn't reproduce it.

 Ideas? Essentially, this makes CentOS 64bit undeployable in our environemnt.


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Re: [CentOS] RHEL 5.4 is out!

2009-09-10 Thread William L. Maltby
On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 11:05 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote:
> Obligatory: When will Centos 5.4 be ready?
> 
> 
> /me goes down into reinforced concrete bunker and locks all hatches and 
> doors.

/me overflies with F-117 and drops latest 9,000 lb "bunker-buster".

;-))

> 

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Re: [CentOS] Excessive NFS operations

2009-09-10 Thread Les Mikesell
lheck...@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
>  Reading the "waiting IOs" thread made me remember I have a similar problem
>  that has been here for months, and I have no sulution yet.
> 
>  A single CentOS 5.2 x86_64 machine here is overloading our NetApp filer with
>  excessive NFS getattr, lookup and access operations. The weird thing is that
>  the number of these operations increases over time. I have an mrtg graph
>  (which I didn't want to attach here) showing e.g. 200 NFS Ops on Monday,
>  measured with filer-mrtg, going up to, e.g. 1200 in a straight line within
>  days. nfsstat -l on the filer proves beyond doubt that the load is caused by
>  this particular machine. dstat shows me which NFS operations are causing it.
> 
>   date/time   | null  gatr  satr  look  aces ...
> 10-09 12:22:52|   0 0 0 0 0
> 10-09 12:22:53|   0   525 0   602   602
> 10-09 12:22:54|   0  1275 0  1464  1438
> 10-09 12:22:55|   0 0 0 0 0
> 10-09 12:22:56|   0 0 0 0 0
> 10-09 12:22:57|   0 0 0 0 0
> 10-09 12:22:58|   0   238 0   270   270
> 10-09 12:22:59|   0  1461 0  1663  1660
> 10-09 12:23:00|   0   205 0   133   114
> 10-09 12:23:01|   0 0 0 0 0
> 10-09 12:23:02|   0 1 0 0 0
> 10-09 12:23:03|   0 0 0 0 0
> 10-09 12:23:04|   0  1411 0  1574  1574
> 10-09 12:23:05|   0   498 0   465   466
> 10-09 12:23:06|   0 0 0 0 0
> 10-09 12:23:07|   0 0 0 0 0
> 10-09 12:23:08|   0 0 0 0 0
> 10-09 12:23:09|   0  1082 0  1178  1192
> 10-09 12:23:10|   0   790 0   885   865
> 
>  This behaviour is somehow tied to the Gnome desktop. I have other machines
>  running CentOS 5.2 x86_64 (at init level 3) which don't show this behaviour.
>  I also have CentOS 5.2 i386 machines which don't show it either. None of the
>  other machines on the lan show it - RHEL3 32 and 64bit, Solaris.
> 
>  What I'd need is a monitoring tool than can tie the NFS ops to process ids
>  or applications. lsof isn't nearly as helpful here as I thought. I even 
> copied
>  this workstation user's files to another account, logged in and ran the same
>  apps - and couldn't reproduce it.
> 
>  Ideas? Essentially, this makes CentOS 64bit undeployable in our environemnt.

Do you have anything running that would try to read all the files and build a 
search index - like beagle?   There's also the nightly run of updatedb but that 
just reads the filenames and normally nfs mounts are excluded.

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Re: [CentOS] Excessive NFS operations

2009-09-10 Thread lhecking

> Do you have anything running that would try to read all the files and build a 
> search index - like beagle?   There's also the nightly run of updatedb but 
> that 
> just reads the filenames and normally nfs mounts are excluded.
 
 There is no package beagle installed, I don't know if any other software
 doing this is part of a standard CentOS install. Definitely not updatedb,
 mlocate.cron runs once a day in the early morning, but the load pattern
 we see is a continuous increase.
 

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Re: [CentOS] waiting IOs...

2009-09-10 Thread Les Mikesell
James Pearson wrote:
> John Doe wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> We have a storage server (HP DL360G5 + MSA20 (12 disks in RAID 6) on a 
>> SmartArray6400).
>> 10 directories are exported through nfs to 10 clients 
>> (rsize=32768,wsize=32768,soft,intr,nosuid,proto=udp,vers=3).
>> The server is apparently not doing much but... we have very high waiting IOs.
> 
> Probably not connected, but personally I would use 'hard' and 
> 'proto=tcp' instead of 'soft' and 'proto=udp' on the clients


I'd usually blame disk seek time first.  If your raid level requires several 
drives to move their heads together and/or the data layout lands on the same 
drive set, consider what happens when your 10 users all want the disk head(s) 
to 
be in different places.  Disk drives allow random access but they really aren't 
that good at it if they have to spend most of their time seeking.  Raid6 is 
particularly bad at write performance so a different raid level might help - or 
if you know the data access pattern you might split the drives into different 
volumes that don't affect each other and arrange the data accordingly.  And 
mounting with the async option might give much better performance - I'm not 
sure 
what the default is these days.

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Re: [CentOS] Excessive NFS operations

2009-09-10 Thread nate
lheck...@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
>
>  Reading the "waiting IOs" thread made me remember I have a similar problem
>  that has been here for months, and I have no sulution yet.
>
>  A single CentOS 5.2 x86_64 machine here is overloading our NetApp filer
> with
>  excessive NFS getattr, lookup and access operations. The weird thing is
>

There was a kernel update in the 5.2/5.3 time frame that
fixed a NFS client bug regarding lookups, what kernel are you
running?

Have you tried running lsof on the client side to see which
processes are using the files served over NFS?

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Re: [CentOS] Excessive NFS operations

2009-09-10 Thread Lars Hecking
nate writes:
> lheck...@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
> >
> >  Reading the "waiting IOs" thread made me remember I have a similar problem
> >  that has been here for months, and I have no sulution yet.
> >
> >  A single CentOS 5.2 x86_64 machine here is overloading our NetApp filer
> > with
> >  excessive NFS getattr, lookup and access operations. The weird thing is
> >
> 
> There was a kernel update in the 5.2/5.3 time frame that
> fixed a NFS client bug regarding lookups, what kernel are you
> running?
 
 2.6.18-92.1.22.el5. I can test all newer kernels if necessary.

> Have you tried running lsof on the client side to see which
> processes are using the files served over NFS?

 Yes, but there's simply too much output to make this useful, and most of
 it, about 75%, is related to EDA software which is installed on the filer.
 I.e. 3rd party software we have no control over and don't know what it
 does internally.


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Re: [CentOS] trouble playing quicktimes at apple.com/trailers

2009-09-10 Thread fred smith
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 06:26:16AM +0200, Olaf Mueller wrote:
> fred smith wrote:
> 
> Hello.
> 
> > I've been able to view the movie trailers at apple.com/trailers for
> > years on my old Centos box (5.3). [...]
> > Is anyone else having trouble with that? or to ask another way, can
> > any of you still watch them?
> Works here with 'User Agent Switcher' for Firefox. See for more under
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1245441&page=4.

Olaf, thanks for the reply!

While I haven't tried that, I don't think that's the problem I'm having:
I can copy and paste the URL of the .mov file into mplayer or vlc
from the commandline, and get the exact same symptoms. I.E., there is
no browser involved in that transaction but it fails the same way.

And it fails on the "old" computer where it was working in July (and
for the previous several years) as well as the new one.

One more data point: I get the same failures on my eeepc 901 where I've
installed Fedora 11, too.

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Re: [CentOS] Excessive NFS operations

2009-09-10 Thread Robert Heller
At Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:56:31 +0100 CentOS mailing list  
wrote:

> 
> 
> > Do you have anything running that would try to read all the files and build 
> > a 
> > search index - like beagle?   There's also the nightly run of updatedb but 
> > that 
> > just reads the filenames and normally nfs mounts are excluded.
>  
>  There is no package beagle installed, I don't know if any other software
>  doing this is part of a standard CentOS install. Definitely not updatedb,
>  mlocate.cron runs once a day in the early morning, but the load pattern
>  we see is a continuous increase.

What IS running on the problem machine?  Is it a web server?  Someone's
Desktop? (If it is a personal Desktop box, what is the person running --
are they running find all of the time? Or doing some 'lets update 5
zillion files now' type of task?)  A database server?  Something else?

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[CentOS] Problems setting terminal size in termcap/xterm

2009-09-10 Thread Marcelo M. Garcia
Hi

I'm trying to set the terminal size in /usr/share/vte/termcap/xterm, but 
it seems that CentOS doesn't look at this file.

I know this works in REHL 4.7 and Fedora 10, 11. Does anyone know a work 
around to this?

Thanks

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Re: [CentOS] Excessive NFS operations

2009-09-10 Thread Jens Larsson
> > >  A single CentOS 5.2 x86_64 machine here is overloading our NetApp 
> > > filer with excessive NFS getattr, lookup and access operations.

> > There was a kernel update in the 5.2/5.3 time frame that fixed a NFS 
> > client bug regarding lookups, what kernel are you running?

>  2.6.18-92.1.22.el5. I can test all newer kernels if necessary.

Please update you centos installation. It will probably fix your NFS 
issues and your current system contains serious security problems. "yum 
update".

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Re: [CentOS] Excessive NFS operations

2009-09-10 Thread Chris Murphy



lheck...@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
Do you have anything running that would try to read all the files and build a 
search index - like beagle?   There's also the nightly run of updatedb but that 
just reads the filenames and normally nfs mounts are excluded.

 
 There is no package beagle installed, I don't know if any other software

 doing this is part of a standard CentOS install. Definitely not updatedb,
 mlocate.cron runs once a day in the early morning, but the load pattern
 we see is a continuous increase.
 

  
We had a similar issue with 100 CentOS 5 and Fedora 7 desktops mounting 
their $HOME directories from a Centos 4 server.  We would see a steady  
(perfectly linear) increase of getattr and lookup requests from the time 
users logged in until they shutoff their machines (logging off stopped 
the linear growth but didn't always bring the number of requests down).  
Running hundreds of dstats and straces finally showed that the gamin 
package on each of the clients was causing all of the requests and 
simply killing that single process would instantly drop the getattr 
requests from 200 a second down to 3 or 4 a second where it should be.  
That was 200 per client so you can imagine how bad it would get! We 
rebuilt the gamin-0.1.9-5.rpm package and deployed it to all of the 
machines. We instantly saw improvement and we currently average 3 
getattr requests a second. I don't know if this will help your situation 
but maybe someone will benefit.


Chris
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[CentOS] SIGSEGV at kickstart

2009-09-10 Thread Adrian Sevcenco

Hi! I have a problem that i dont know how to tackle ...
i have done kickstarting many times but know it seems i hit an wall ...
i try to kickstart through nfs an 64 bit centos .. just after taking ip 
trough dhcp i receive an SIGSEGV ! i dont know what to do anymore as the 
same ks.cfg worked very well until now ..


Many thanks!
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Re: [CentOS] Excessive NFS operations

2009-09-10 Thread Lars Hecking

> We had a similar issue with 100 CentOS 5 and Fedora 7 desktops mounting 
> their $HOME directories from a Centos 4 server.  We would see a steady  
> (perfectly linear) increase of getattr and lookup requests from the time 
> users logged in until they shutoff their machines (logging off stopped 
> the linear growth but didn't always bring the number of requests down).  
> Running hundreds of dstats and straces finally showed that the gamin 
> package on each of the clients was causing all of the requests and 
> simply killing that single process would instantly drop the getattr 
> requests from 200 a second down to 3 or 4 a second where it should be.  
> That was 200 per client so you can imagine how bad it would get! We 
> rebuilt the gamin-0.1.9-5.rpm package and deployed it to all of the 
> machines. We instantly saw improvement and we currently average 3 
> getattr requests a second. I don't know if this will help your situation 
> but maybe someone will benefit.

 Intriguing. Chris, did you have this problem with all architectures?
 Did you apply any patches when rebuilding gamin?


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Re: [CentOS] Excessive NFS operations

2009-09-10 Thread Ross Walker
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Chris Murphy  wrote:
>
>
> lheck...@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
>
> Do you have anything running that would try to read all the files and build
> a
> search index - like beagle?   There's also the nightly run of updatedb but
> that
> just reads the filenames and normally nfs mounts are excluded.
>
>
>
>  There is no package beagle installed, I don't know if any other software
>  doing this is part of a standard CentOS install. Definitely not updatedb,
>  mlocate.cron runs once a day in the early morning, but the load pattern
>  we see is a continuous increase.
>
>
>
> We had a similar issue with 100 CentOS 5 and Fedora 7 desktops mounting
> their $HOME directories from a Centos 4 server.  We would see a steady
> (perfectly linear) increase of getattr and lookup requests from the time
> users logged in until they shutoff their machines (logging off stopped the
> linear growth but didn't always bring the number of requests down).  Running
> hundreds of dstats and straces finally showed that the gamin package on each
> of the clients was causing all of the requests and simply killing that
> single process would instantly drop the getattr requests from 200 a second
> down to 3 or 4 a second where it should be.  That was 200 per client so you
> can imagine how bad it would get! We rebuilt the gamin-0.1.9-5.rpm package
> and deployed it to all of the machines. We instantly saw improvement and we
> currently average 3 getattr requests a second. I don't know if this will
> help your situation but maybe someone will benefit.

How about the gamin patch you rebuilt with?

Or at least a bugzilla entry with it...

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Re: [CentOS] Excessive NFS operations

2009-09-10 Thread Lars Hecking

> What IS running on the problem machine?  Is it a web server?  Someone's
> Desktop? (If it is a personal Desktop box, what is the person running --
> are they running find all of the time? Or doing some 'lets update 5
> zillion files now' type of task?)  A database server?  Something else?

 It's a plain desktop. User is running standard desktop apps like firefox,
 thunderbird, vmware, and EDA tools.


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Re: [CentOS] yum issue with extras repo?

2009-09-10 Thread drew einhorn
I should probably rewrite the following, moving some paragraphs around.
But I'm done for now.

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 3:20 AM, Ralph Angenendt
 wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 15:09 -0600, drew einhorn wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote:
>> > On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Dave Stevens wrote:
>> >> As you can see below I am having a problem checking for updates. This
>> >> happens repeatedly. I have to kill the process then rerun. I have
>> >> tried "yum clean all" but no joy - the process hangs again on "extras"
>> > I suspect it is the non-CentOS repos that are causing the hang (?).
>> >
>> > You might want to check that by running:
>> >
>> > yum update --disablerepo=\* --enablerepo=base,extras,updates
>> >
>> > and see if this one runs fine.
>>
>> This will get things back to standard repos only.
>>
>> But if you have already loaded an incompatible package  from a
>> nonstandard repo, this will not fix it.
>
> This is related to the problem at hand how?
>

The OP has a problem resulting from mixing standard and 3rd party
repos, and has noticed some obvious issues.  There may be much
more subtle, less obvious issues.  For example, a 3rd party repo,
may have replaced a standard library with a version with a subtle
incompatibity.  It may add a bug, along with a feature necessary
to support another package that it provides.

It doesn't happen often.  But it can and does happen.

>> Rather than trying to figure out what you have and how to fix it,
>> it may be easier to start over an build a new system from scratch.
>
> This isn't Windows.
>

True.  But figuring out which packages came from which repo, can
be difficult.  There was a hotly debated repotag battle that could
have mitigated the problem.  The epel folks were strongly opposed.

The problem becomes really nasty, when package xyz from repo A,
is incompatible with package xyz from repo B.

>> You can probably get the 3rd party repos to play nicer with one another
>> by using yum-priorities.
>>
> This is related to the problem at hand how?
>

The OP was using packages from the standard repos,
epel, and a couple other repos I never heard of for
a reason that he did not share with us.  yum-priorities
can be used to control which packages are installed
from which libraries.

Count the mumber of packages on your system.  Do a:

rpm -qa | wc

If you have subtle problem with compatability between repos.

Do you want to go through all those package determine which repo
each package can from and determine whether there are compatibility
issues with packages from other repos?

Or do you want to start over installing only packages from the
centos repos that have been tested by the centos developers.

Then add third party repos with yum-priorities preventing centos
packages from being replaced by non centos packages,
but adding needed packages and their prerequisites from 3rd party
repos.

>> There are techniques for finer grained management of
>> compatiblity issues among repositories, that I have never
>> needed to learn about.  Someday this is going to sneak
>> up and bite me.
>
> Yes, probably, but still not related to the problem at hand.
>

epel is careful not to replace package from the standard repos.
I have no idea whether the repos other repos (I never heard
of them) are as careful.

epel is not concerned about their
compatability with other 3rd party repos.  And there is
a lot of lingering animosity.  Just mentioning epel in some
places is enough to evoke a bitter response.  I did not want
to get into those issues.

Sometimes the problem does get all the way down to
very nasty, tangled compatibily issues among repos,
and there is a solution, but it's not easy.

>> Pretty sure there is a 3rd party repo page in the centos wiki.
>
> Yes, but you couldn't be bothered to check, could you?
>
> Sometimes it would be smarter to not try to help.
>

I'm not the one who has a problem and needs to do the research
on this problem.

I gave the OP a hint on where to look.

> Ralph
>

But since you insist.

Here's the wiki page on repositiories.

http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories

New repositories have been added since the last time I
looked.  I have not looked to see whether the repositories
used by the OP are discussed here.

And here the wiki page on yum-priorities.

http://wiki.centos.org/PackageManagement/Yum/Priorities



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Re: [CentOS] yum issue with extras repo?

2009-09-10 Thread Rex Dieter
drew einhorn wrote:

> epel is not concerned about their
> compatability with other 3rd party repos. 

Please, stop the FUD.

> And there is
> a lot of lingering animosity.  Just mentioning epel in some
> places is enough to evoke a bitter response. 

and thank you so much for perpetuating the problem.

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Re: [CentOS] waiting IOs...

2009-09-10 Thread John Doe
# iostat -m -x 10
Linux 2.6.18-8.1.6.el5 (data1.iol)  09/10/2009

. . .

avg-cpu:  %user   %nice %system %iowait  %steal   %idle
   0.200.000.318.790.00   90.70

Device: rrqm/s   wrqm/s   r/s   w/srMB/swMB/s avgrq-sz avgqu-sz 
  await  svctm  %util
cciss/c0d00.00 0.20  0.92  0.51 0.00 0.0010.29 0.04 
  25.29  25.93   3.71
cciss/c0d10.00 0.20  3.68  2.45 0.02 0.0111.07 0.06 
   9.87   7.27   4.45
cciss/c0d20.00 0.20  0.41  2.76 0.00 0.01 8.52 0.03 
   9.97   2.81   0.89
cciss/c0d31.23 0.51  3.98  1.53 0.03 0.0114.52 0.05 
   9.69   8.07   4.45
cciss/c0d40.00 0.00  0.00  0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 
   0.00   0.00   0.00
cciss/c0d50.00 0.00  1.02  0.10 0.00 0.00 8.00 0.01 
   9.36   9.36   1.05
cciss/c0d62.45 0.20  0.92  0.51 0.06 0.0087.43 0.01 
   9.64   7.21   1.03
cciss/c0d70.00 0.00  0.31  0.10 0.00 0.00 8.00 0.01 
  14.25  14.25   0.58
cciss/c0d80.00 0.00  0.10  1.84 0.00 0.01 8.00 0.01 
   7.26   1.42   0.28
cciss/c0d90.00 0.10  0.41  3.78 0.00 0.02 9.56 0.05 
  12.24   1.59   0.66
cciss/c1d00.00 6.03  0.00  1.74 0.00 0.0226.94 0.04 
  25.35  12.59   2.19

avg-cpu:  %user   %nice %system %iowait  %steal   %idle
   0.050.000.36   25.770.00   73.82

Device: rrqm/s   wrqm/s   r/s   w/srMB/swMB/s avgrq-sz avgqu-sz 
  await  svctm  %util
cciss/c0d00.00 0.82  4.60  0.20 0.03 0.0013.11 0.06 
  13.55  13.00   6.25
cciss/c0d11.23 1.43  1.94  0.20 0.02 0.0129.33 0.02 
  11.48  11.48   2.46
cciss/c0d20.00 0.00  0.82  0.00 0.00 0.00 8.00 0.01 
  14.00  14.00   1.15
cciss/c0d32.45 1.43 11.25  0.20 0.07 0.0114.43 0.12 
  10.62  10.52  12.04
cciss/c0d40.00 1.64  7.98  0.20 0.03 0.0110.00 0.08 
   9.24   9.10   7.44
cciss/c0d55.93 0.20 22.09  0.20 2.19 0.00   201.03 0.58 
  26.06   1.88   4.19
cciss/c0d62.45 1.12  5.62  0.41 0.08 0.0129.15 0.06 
  10.66   9.66   5.83
cciss/c0d70.00 1.23  5.42  0.20 0.02 0.0110.76 0.05 
   8.87   8.73   4.91
cciss/c0d80.00 0.72  3.17  0.20 0.02 0.0013.09 0.04 
  12.33  12.21   4.12
cciss/c0d90.92 0.82  3.17  0.20 0.03 0.0018.67 0.04 
  13.12  12.67   4.27
cciss/c1d00.00 2.66  0.41  3.07 0.00 0.01 8.29 0.28 
  81.91  10.94   3.80

avg-cpu:  %user   %nice %system %iowait  %steal   %idle
   0.100.000.20   15.950.00   83.74

Device: rrqm/s   wrqm/s   r/s   w/srMB/swMB/s avgrq-sz avgqu-sz 
  await  svctm  %util
cciss/c0d00.00 4.19 14.72  0.51 0.10 0.0215.52 0.17 
  10.98   9.05  13.79
cciss/c0d10.00 0.20  0.31  0.20 0.00 0.0011.20 0.01 
  10.20  10.20   0.52
cciss/c0d20.00 0.31  0.41  0.41 0.00 0.0013.00 0.01 
   7.88   7.88   0.64
cciss/c0d30.00 0.31  4.50  0.20 0.02 0.00 9.74 0.05 
  10.61  10.37   4.88
cciss/c0d41.23 0.31  2.76  0.41 0.28 0.00   182.71 0.06 
  19.97   4.00   1.27
cciss/c0d50.00 0.82  3.17  0.20 0.02 0.0011.64 0.04 
  11.30  11.30   3.81
cciss/c0d62.45 0.51  3.68  0.41 0.28 0.00   143.60 0.07 
  16.27   5.30   2.17
cciss/c0d71.23 0.10  1.94  0.20 0.01 0.0015.24 0.03 
  13.33  13.33   2.86
cciss/c0d80.00 0.31  0.51  0.41 0.00 0.0011.56 0.01 
   8.00   8.00   0.74
cciss/c0d90.00 0.10  0.61  0.20 0.00 0.0010.00 0.01 
  11.88  11.75   0.96
cciss/c1d00.00 3.07  0.00  1.33 0.00 0.0119.08 0.02 
  16.77  13.31   1.77

I tried nmon but I did not see anything out of the ordinary...
But when I try to see the NFS stats, nmon (11f-1.el5.rf) coredumps.
I tried the iostat nfs option (kernel 2.6.18-8.1.6.el5, should support it) but 
it did not show anything.
nfsstat shows no apparent activity...
nfs is normaly only used to put files or modify small files (<1K) "from times 
to times", while http is used to get files.

From: Les Mikesell 
> I'd usually blame disk seek time first.  If your raid level requires several 
> drives to move their heads together and/or the data layout lands on the same 
> drive set, consider what happens when your 10 users all want the disk head(s) 
> to 
> be in different places.  Disk drives allow random access but they really 
> aren't 
> that good at it if they have to spend most of their time seeking.

That could be it...
It's always a question of space

Re: [CentOS] SIGSEGV at kickstart

2009-09-10 Thread nate
Adrian Sevcenco wrote:
> Hi! I have a problem that i dont know how to tackle ...
> i have done kickstarting many times but know it seems i hit an wall ...
> i try to kickstart through nfs an 64 bit centos .. just after taking ip
> trough dhcp i receive an SIGSEGV ! i dont know what to do anymore as the
> same ks.cfg worked very well until now ..

Is it reproducible across more than 1 box? For me I get occasional
kickstart crashes as well though they are somewhat random, maybe
1 in 30 goes down, restarting it always works. It crashes at different
points, I don't recall it ever crashing at the same point yours is.

Is this new or different hardware from what has worked in the past?

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Re: [CentOS] Excessive NFS operations

2009-09-10 Thread nate
Lars Hecking wrote:

>  2.6.18-92.1.22.el5. I can test all newer kernels if necessary.

Sounds like another poster may of found the root cause but you
should still upgrade anyways, I tracked down the specific
update to this kernel, which is newer than what you have:

* Thu Jul 03 2008 Aristeu Rozanski  [2.6.18-95.el5]
[..]
- [nfs] address nfs rewrite performance regression in RHEL5 (Eric Sandeen )
[436004]
[..]

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Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2009:1432 Critical CentOS 3 i386
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CentOS Errata and Security Advisory CESA-2009:1432

seamonkey security update for CentOS 3 i386:
https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2009-1432.html

The following updated file has been uploaded and is currently syncing to
the mirrors:

i386:
updates/i386/RPMS/seamonkey-1.0.9-0.45.el3.centos3.i386.rpm
updates/i386/RPMS/seamonkey-chat-1.0.9-0.45.el3.centos3.i386.rpm
updates/i386/RPMS/seamonkey-devel-1.0.9-0.45.el3.centos3.i386.rpm
updates/i386/RPMS/seamonkey-dom-inspector-1.0.9-0.45.el3.centos3.i386.rpm
updates/i386/RPMS/seamonkey-js-debugger-1.0.9-0.45.el3.centos3.i386.rpm
updates/i386/RPMS/seamonkey-mail-1.0.9-0.45.el3.centos3.i386.rpm
updates/i386/RPMS/seamonkey-nspr-1.0.9-0.45.el3.centos3.i386.rpm
updates/i386/RPMS/seamonkey-nspr-devel-1.0.9-0.45.el3.centos3.i386.rpm
updates/i386/RPMS/seamonkey-nss-1.0.9-0.45.el3.centos3.i386.rpm
updates/i386/RPMS/seamonkey-nss-devel-1.0.9-0.45.el3.centos3.i386.rpm

source:
updates/SRPMS/seamonkey-1.0.9-0.45.el3.centos3.src.rpm

You may update your CentOS-3 i386 installations by running the command:

yum update seamonkey\*

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Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2009:1432 Critical CentOS 3 x86_64
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CentOS Errata and Security Advisory CESA-2009:1432

seamonkey security update for CentOS 3 x86_64:
https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2009-1432.html

The following updated file has been uploaded and is currently syncing to
the mirrors:

x86_64:
updates/x86_64/RPMS/seamonkey-1.0.9-0.45.el3.centos3.i386.rpm
updates/x86_64/RPMS/seamonkey-1.0.9-0.45.el3.centos3.x86_64.rpm
updates/x86_64/RPMS/seamonkey-chat-1.0.9-0.45.el3.centos3.x86_64.rpm
updates/x86_64/RPMS/seamonkey-devel-1.0.9-0.45.el3.centos3.x86_64.rpm
updates/x86_64/RPMS/seamonkey-dom-inspector-1.0.9-0.45.el3.centos3.x86_64.rpm
updates/x86_64/RPMS/seamonkey-js-debugger-1.0.9-0.45.el3.centos3.x86_64.rpm
updates/x86_64/RPMS/seamonkey-mail-1.0.9-0.45.el3.centos3.x86_64.rpm
updates/x86_64/RPMS/seamonkey-nspr-1.0.9-0.45.el3.centos3.i386.rpm
updates/x86_64/RPMS/seamonkey-nspr-1.0.9-0.45.el3.centos3.x86_64.rpm
updates/x86_64/RPMS/seamonkey-nspr-devel-1.0.9-0.45.el3.centos3.x86_64.rpm
updates/x86_64/RPMS/seamonkey-nss-1.0.9-0.45.el3.centos3.i386.rpm
updates/x86_64/RPMS/seamonkey-nss-1.0.9-0.45.el3.centos3.x86_64.rpm
updates/x86_64/RPMS/seamonkey-nss-devel-1.0.9-0.45.el3.centos3.x86_64.rpm

source:
updates/SRPMS/seamonkey-1.0.9-0.45.el3.centos3.src.rpm

You may update your CentOS-3 x86_64 installations by running the command:

yum update seamonkey

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Re: [CentOS] waiting IOs...

2009-09-10 Thread Les Mikesell
John Doe wrote:
> # iostat -m -x 10
> Linux 2.6.18-8.1.6.el5 (data1.iol)  09/10/2009
> 

Are you also following the 'Excessive NFS operations' thread?  There's 
some interesting information there about buggy kernels and apps.

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Re: [CentOS] Excessive NFS operations

2009-09-10 Thread Lars Hecking
nate writes:
> Lars Hecking wrote:
> 
> >  2.6.18-92.1.22.el5. I can test all newer kernels if necessary.
> 
> Sounds like another poster may of found the root cause but you
> should still upgrade anyways, I tracked down the specific
> update to this kernel, which is newer than what you have:
> 
> * Thu Jul 03 2008 Aristeu Rozanski  [2.6.18-95.el5]
> [..]
> - [nfs] address nfs rewrite performance regression in RHEL5 (Eric Sandeen )
> [436004]
> [..]

 This is an enterprise-wide setup I cannot change, but I will be able to
 deploy a newer kernel. It'll have to wait until I return to the office
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Re: [CentOS] Excessive NFS operations

2009-09-10 Thread John R Pierce
Lars Hecking wrote:
>  This is an enterprise-wide setup I cannot change, but I will be able to
>  deploy a newer kernel. It'll have to wait until I return to the office
>  in a few weeks' time, though.
>   

an enterprise-wide setup that can't get regular security patches?!?  




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Re: [CentOS] Excessive NFS operations

2009-09-10 Thread Lars Hecking
John R Pierce writes:
> Lars Hecking wrote:
> >  This is an enterprise-wide setup I cannot change, but I will be able to
> >  deploy a newer kernel. It'll have to wait until I return to the office
> >  in a few weeks' time, though.
> >   
> 
> an enterprise-wide setup that can't get regular security patches?!?  

 Regular as in "patch as soon as available", no, but if the current kernel
 helps with this problem, we'll roll it out. Before moving up to CentOS 5.4 ;)


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Re: [CentOS] yum issue with extras repo?

2009-09-10 Thread drew einhorn
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Rex Dieter  wrote:
> drew einhorn wrote:
>
>> epel is not concerned about their
>> compatability with other 3rd party repos.
>
> Please, stop the FUD.
>
>> And there is
>> a lot of lingering animosity.  Just mentioning epel in some
>> places is enough to evoke a bitter response.
>
> and thank you so much for perpetuating the problem.
>

I'm sorry.  Your are absolutely correct.  I should not have
commented on the intent of any repo developers.

However the fact remains that all repos test the
compatibility among the packages they distribute,
and test for compatibility with packages distributed
in the standard repos.

They do not do as thorough a job of testing with respect
to all other 3rd party repos.  There are other 3rd party repos,
they probably have not even heard of much less tested.

I do use epel on some systems.  There are packages I
sometimes need that are not included in other repos.

In my repo yum-priorities configurations epel either comes
immediately after the standard centos repos, or it is near the end,
just before "testing" versions of other repos.

We really need better repository tools, when dealing
with multiple 3rd party repos.  It is not easy to see
which packages came from which repos,
much less understand compatibility issues
among packages from different 3rd party repos.

We would be in a better place if the repotag
had survivied the repo wars.

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Re: [CentOS] Excessive NFS operations

2009-09-10 Thread Mogens Kjaer
On 09/10/2009 04:28 PM, Lars Hecking wrote:
...
>  It's a plain desktop. User is running standard desktop apps like firefox,
>  thunderbird, vmware, and EDA tools.

Which version of thunderbird? Version 3 killed our NFS server when
~/.thunderbird is accessed via NFS.

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Re: [CentOS] Excessive NFS operations

2009-09-10 Thread nate
Lars Hecking wrote:

>  This is an enterprise-wide setup I cannot change, but I will be able to
>  deploy a newer kernel. It'll have to wait until I return to the office
>  in a few weeks' time, though.

If you get any flak for deploying a newer kernel remind whoever
gives you the flak that the above kernel is more than a year
old(the one that has that particular fix).

Myself I too run on older software, most of the latest and greatest
are fairly up to date CentOS 5.2, or 4.6. Still have some older RHEL 4.1
systems in place though(from before my time here). At least we were
able to retire the RHEL 3 systems that hadn't seen an update in
probably 3-4 years.

I do for the most part keep the kernels more up to date though since
they are pretty portable and often contain fixes I care about more
(driver updates etc). Security is less of a concern in our mostly
protected environment.

I do plan to address all of it, it's just not a high priority.

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Re: [CentOS] Excessive NFS operations

2009-09-10 Thread Lars Hecking
Mogens Kjaer writes:
> On 09/10/2009 04:28 PM, Lars Hecking wrote:
> ...
> >  It's a plain desktop. User is running standard desktop apps like firefox,
> >  thunderbird, vmware, and EDA tools.
> 
> Which version of thunderbird? Version 3 killed our NFS server when
> ~/.thunderbird is accessed via NFS.

 thunderbird-2.0.0.19-1.el5.centos


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Re: [CentOS] Excessive NFS operations

2009-09-10 Thread nate
nate wrote:
> Lars Hecking wrote:
>
>>  2.6.18-92.1.22.el5. I can test all newer kernels if necessary.
>
> Sounds like another poster may of found the root cause but you
> should still upgrade anyways, I tracked down the specific
> update to this kernel, which is newer than what you have:
>

Whoops sorry that was the wrong update, the kernel you have
already has the fix I was referring to

* Tue Feb 05 2008 Don Zickus  [2.6.18-78.el5]
[..]
- [nfs] reduce number of wire RPC ops, increase perf (Peter Staubach ) [32]
[..]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=32

But it (usually) can't hurt to upgrade to something more recent
anyways.

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[CentOS] Centos 4.7 supports two CPUs?

2009-09-10 Thread Luis campo

Hello people 

 I currently have a ML370 G4 server with a CPU in centos 4.7, this server has 
the ability to add another CPU. 

 the question is, Centos can recognize the second CPU? and if so, is there any 
special configuration to be performed. 

 A forward to your comments 

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Re: [CentOS] Centos 4.7 supports two CPUs?

2009-09-10 Thread nate
Luis campo wrote:
>
> Hello people
>
>  I currently have a ML370 G4 server with a CPU in centos 4.7, this server
> has the ability to add another CPU.
>
>  the question is, Centos can recognize the second CPU? and if so, is there
> any special configuration to be performed.

Just need a SMP kernel if you don't have one already (run uname -a and
look for the 'smp' tag). You can do cat /proc/cpuinfo to see, you
may already have a SMP kernel if it's a 370, I suspect the system is
probably hyperthreaded which will trigger the installer to install a
SMP kernel during installation.

Beyond that no special configuration. CentOS 5.x I believe doesn't
have a distinction between SMP and non SMP, all kernels are SMP aware.

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Re: [CentOS] Excessive NFS operations

2009-09-10 Thread Les Mikesell
John R Pierce wrote:
> Lars Hecking wrote:
>>  This is an enterprise-wide setup I cannot change, but I will be able to
>>  deploy a newer kernel. It'll have to wait until I return to the office
>>  in a few weeks' time, though.
>>   
> 
> an enterprise-wide setup that can't get regular security patches?!?  

Yes, seems to miss the point of using an 'enterprise' distribution where 
  a lot of work goes into ensuring that updates don't cause surprises.

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Re: [CentOS] trouble playing quicktimes at apple.com/trailers

2009-09-10 Thread Olaf Mueller
fred smith wrote:

> While I haven't tried that,
?

> I don't think that's the problem I'm 
> having: I can copy and paste the URL of the .mov file into mplayer or
> vlc from the commandline, and get the exact same symptoms. I.E., there
> is no browser involved in that transaction but it fails the same way.
You are completely wrong. Read the link, or read it not, it is your
choice.

Here it works with CentOS 5.3.


regards
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[CentOS] /etc/sysconfig/autofsck

2009-09-10 Thread Agile Aspect
Hi - I've been asked  to turn on autofsck on ext3 filesystems for
CentOS 4 and 5
servers on reboot after a crash by adding

   AUTOFSCK_TIMEOUT=5
   AUTOFSCK_DEF_CHECK=yes

to the file

/etc/sysconfig/autofsck

Is this necessary for ext3 filesystems?

Is this a safe thing to do for a ext3 filesystems?

I haven't used autofsck since the ext2 days.

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Re: [CentOS] yum issue with extras repo?

2009-09-10 Thread Les Mikesell
drew einhorn wrote:
>  
> We really need better repository tools, when dealing
> with multiple 3rd party repos.  It is not easy to see
> which packages came from which repos,
> much less understand compatibility issues
> among packages from different 3rd party repos.
> 
> We would be in a better place if the repotag
> had survivied the repo wars.

And even better if yum remembered where things came from and could 
describe them in a way that you could automatically reproduce a working 
set of packages on a different machine.

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Re: [CentOS] /etc/sysconfig/autofsck

2009-09-10 Thread nate
Agile Aspect wrote:

> Is this necessary for ext3 filesystems?

Can't hurt, though I don't do this myself, most of my
systems have pretty stable storage, been a while since
I used a controller/system that caused problems that
would make me want to fsck.

>
> Is this a safe thing to do for a ext3 filesystems?

fsck'ing a ext3 file system is perfectly safe, if it
is mounted uncleanly the system even prompts you to do
a full fsck during bootup(if you don't hit a key it
continues with just the journal check)

For my SAN-based file systems I do explicitly fsck them
each time they are mounted in my mount scripts because
some systems rely on SAN snapshots, and sometimes those
snapshots are taken when the file system can be in an
inconsistent state. If the file system is clean the
fsck aborts and the file system is mounted.

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[CentOS] repo with eclipse/subclipse?

2009-09-10 Thread Les Mikesell
Is there a 3rd party repo with working eclipse-platform/subclipse 
versions? Preferably something compatible with an up to date subversion?

I'm currently getting:

Error: Missing Dependency: libneon.so.25 is needed by package 
subversion-1.6.5-0.1.el5.rf.i386 (rpmforge)

when I try with rpmforge enabled.

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Re: [CentOS] repo with eclipse/subclipse?

2009-09-10 Thread Stephen Harris
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:40:28PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
> Error: Missing Dependency: libneon.so.25 is needed by package 
> subversion-1.6.5-0.1.el5.rf.i386 (rpmforge)
> 
> when I try with rpmforge enabled.

Are you disabling the standard repo's when you do that?
neon-0.25.5-10.el5.i386.rpm is part of the 5.3 base.

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[CentOS] patching from different directory

2009-09-10 Thread Carlos Santana
Howdy,

I have a diff file in my /var/tmp and would like to apply patch to a
file in a different directory (other than /va/tmp). I tried using
patch with -d switch, but that doesn't work. It complains abt  'patch:
 Can't open patch file tilda.diff : No such file or directory'. Do
I need to copy my diff file to the directory where original file
resides? Or is there any other way round?

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[CentOS] Fork: Resource Temporarily Unavailable

2009-09-10 Thread Gustavo Pastorino
Hey all,

I installed a while ago two CentOS 5.3 servers. One of them was
running Samba and another OpenLDAP. I configured Samba to act as a PDC
on the network and everything was working fine, I was already on
policies rules and desktop migrations.

One day, another analyst changed our subnet, and the domain was
implemented only on our sector for start. After the subnet change, we
had a comunication problem and we figured out it that we needed to
configure samba as WINS server too. After a while, he changed Proxy
requests for WINS to samba, only as a test (some of the requests).
Before we could configure samba, BUM, the samba server crashed and
after some crash/restart it showed this on boot time (of course when
sshd was starting)

* /etc/rc3.d/S55sshd: fork: Resource Temporarily Unavailable

After that, ALL CentOS installations have this problem after yum update:

* /etc/init.d/functions: fork: Resource Temporarily Unavailable

I have only one clue: EPEL repository. I installed and configured
yum-priorities of course.

I´m on my last test installation and I am sending now this e-mail
because if it crashes and i have no resolution, they are going to ask
me for another distro install, and I like CentOS too much to do that.

Just one last thing: its a 6000-7000 user environment and we're on a
hurry, so I can't do long time testing or stay with something that may
one day crash.

Thanks,

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Re: [CentOS] patching from different directory

2009-09-10 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Hi,

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 14:04, Carlos Santana  wrote:
> I have a diff file in my /var/tmp and would like to apply patch to a
> file in a different directory (other than /va/tmp). I tried using
> patch with -d switch, but that doesn't work. It complains abt  'patch:
>  Can't open patch file tilda.diff : No such file or directory'. Do
> I need to copy my diff file to the directory where original file
> resides? Or is there any other way round?

Try:

cd /path/to/file/to/be/patched
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Re: [CentOS] trouble playing quicktimes at apple.com/trailers

2009-09-10 Thread Robert


Olaf Mueller wrote:
> fred smith wrote:
>
>   
>> While I haven't tried that,
>> 
> ?
>
>   
>> I don't think that's the problem I'm 
>> having: I can copy and paste the URL of the .mov file into mplayer or
>> vlc from the commandline, and get the exact same symptoms. I.E., there
>> is no browser involved in that transaction but it fails the same way.
>> 
> You are completely wrong. Read the link, or read it not, it is your
> choice.
>
> Here it works with CentOS 5.3.
>
>
> regards
> Olaf
>   
Works here, too.

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Re: [CentOS] Fork: Resource Temporarily Unavailable

2009-09-10 Thread nate
Gustavo Pastorino wrote:

> * /etc/rc3.d/S55sshd: fork: Resource Temporarily Unavailable

Sounds like too many processes are running, you try to run top
(assuming it even works in that condition), if the problem
doesn't happen right away I'd cron a script to run once a
minute and log the contents of ps auxw, and see what chews up
all of the resources on the box.

You can also try adjusting the limits in /etc/security/limits.conf
it seems the root user is "limited" to roughly 36,000
processes, which to me is more than enough, I don't think I've
ever seen more than 3-4k on a box and that was typically when
the box was horked.

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Re: [CentOS] Fork: Resource Temporarily Unavailable

2009-09-10 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Hi,

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 14:10, Gustavo Pastorino
 wrote:
> * /etc/rc3.d/S55sshd: fork: Resource Temporarily Unavailable
>
> [...]
>
> I´m on my last test installation and I am sending now this e-mail
> because if it crashes and i have no resolution, they are going to ask
> me for another distro install, and I like CentOS too much to do that.
>
> Just one last thing: its a 6000-7000 user environment and we're on a
> hurry, so I can't do long time testing or stay with something that may
> one day crash.

Very hard to "guess" what is wrong with your machine just with that
information above...

Please post:
* What kernel version are you using? (uname -mri)
* What were the last updates to this machine? (tail -50
/var/log/yum.log; rpm -qa --last | head -50)
* What are the hardware specs of that machine? How many CPUs? How much
RAM? (cat /proc/cpuinfo; cat /proc/meminfo)

These above might help figure out what is happening with your machine.

HTH,
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Re: [CentOS] Fork: Resource Temporarily Unavailable

2009-09-10 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Hi,

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 14:19, Filipe Brandenburger
 wrote:
> Please post:
> * What kernel version are you using? (uname -mri)
> * What were the last updates to this machine? (tail -50
> /var/log/yum.log; rpm -qa --last | head -50)
> * What are the hardware specs of that machine? How many CPUs? How much
> RAM? (cat /proc/cpuinfo; cat /proc/meminfo)
>
> These above might help figure out what is happening with your machine.

Another one:
* Which services are started when you boot the machine? (chkconfig
--list | sort | grep 3:on)

HTH,
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Re: [CentOS] Problems setting terminal size in termcap/xterm

2009-09-10 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Hi,

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 09:55, Marcelo M. Garcia
 wrote:
> I'm trying to set the terminal size in /usr/share/vte/termcap/xterm, but
> it seems that CentOS doesn't look at this file.

Works for me (CentOS 4, opening "gnome-terminal").

What does "echo $TERM" output for you? If it does not output "xterm"
that might be the reason why it does not work...

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Re: [CentOS] patching from different directory

2009-09-10 Thread Carlos Santana
Thanks Filipe.

I can do it by cd-ing into file-to-be-patched dir. I think the -d
switch in patch command does similar thing (cd). But then it assumes
diff file also to be present in that new directory.

I guess the problem is not having full dir path in the diff file
itself. The diff file mentions only file name. How do I get full path
in my diff file? Any clues?

-
CS.


On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Filipe Brandenburger
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 14:04, Carlos Santana  wrote:
>> I have a diff file in my /var/tmp and would like to apply patch to a
>> file in a different directory (other than /va/tmp). I tried using
>> patch with -d switch, but that doesn't work. It complains abt  'patch:
>>  Can't open patch file tilda.diff : No such file or directory'. Do
>> I need to copy my diff file to the directory where original file
>> resides? Or is there any other way round?
>
> Try:
>
> cd /path/to/file/to/be/patched
> patch -p0 
> You might want to use -p1 or -p2 or -p3... depending on what is the
> path to the file inside the .diff file. To figure that out, open the
> .diff file and look at the lines that start with --- and +++, then see
> how many directories are there before the filename, use that number
> for the argument to -p.
>
> HTH,
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Re: [CentOS] patching from different directory

2009-09-10 Thread nate
Carlos Santana wrote:
> Thanks Filipe.
>
> I can do it by cd-ing into file-to-be-patched dir. I think the -d
> switch in patch command does similar thing (cd). But then it assumes
> diff file also to be present in that new directory.
>
> I guess the problem is not having full dir path in the diff file
> itself. The diff file mentions only file name. How do I get full path
> in my diff file? Any clues?

Could another option be to pipe the diff into patch via STDIN ?

cat /path/to/filename.diff | patch -p0

or something.

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Re: [CentOS] patching from different directory

2009-09-10 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Hi,

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 14:34, nate  wrote:
> Could another option be to pipe the diff into patch via STDIN ?
>
> cat /path/to/filename.diff | patch -p0

That's exactly the same as:

$ patch -p0 http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] patching from different directory

2009-09-10 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Hi,

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 14:28, Carlos Santana  wrote:
> Thanks Filipe.
>
> I can do it by cd-ing into file-to-be-patched dir.

So, this means it's fixed for you?

> I think the -d
> switch in patch command does similar thing (cd). But then it assumes
> diff file also to be present in that new directory.

Yes, it will change directory before looking for the patch file, so I
believe you should use absolute pathnames or redirections.

> I guess the problem is not having full dir path in the diff file
> itself. The diff file mentions only file name. How do I get full path
> in my diff file? Any clues?

I believe the "problem" is that you are not using "patch" as you are
supposed to use it...

Read the first lines of "man patch", it will say: "but usually just:
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Re: [CentOS] repo with eclipse/subclipse?

2009-09-10 Thread Les Mikesell
Stephen Harris wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:40:28PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
>> Error: Missing Dependency: libneon.so.25 is needed by package 
>> subversion-1.6.5-0.1.el5.rf.i386 (rpmforge)
>>
>> when I try with rpmforge enabled.
> 
> Are you disabling the standard repo's when you do that?
> neon-0.25.5-10.el5.i386.rpm is part of the 5.3 base.

Oh, thanks.  I actually had built and installed a neon-0.28.4 package so 
I could install a subversion-1.6.3 before rpmforge had it to fix a 
problem with svnsync - and then I forgot about it.  Removing those 
installing rpmforge's current subversion took care of it.  But now I am 
hitting the issue I was more or less expecting:

--> Processing Dependency: subversion = 1.4.2-4.el5_3.1 for package: 
subversion-javahl
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
subversion-javahl-1.4.2-4.el5_3.1.i386 from updates has depsolving problems
   --> Missing Dependency: subversion = 1.4.2-4.el5_3.1 is needed by 
package subversion-javahl-1.4.2-4.el5_3.1.i386 (updates)
Error: Missing Dependency: subversion = 1.4.2-4.el5_3.1 is needed by 
package subversion-javahl-1.4.2-4.el5_3.1.i386 (updates)

I don't think current subversion versions even have a javahl and I can't 
go back to an ancient one.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS vs Fedora?

2009-09-10 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 6:31 PM, David Suhendrik  wrote:
> I'm newbie and i want to know Your opinion about CentOS vs Fedora, hopefully
> this isn't make a flame, and just to curious..
> Actucally now I'm using CentOS as some servers. ^_^'

Catching up on reading the list and here are my 2 cents: We started
out using Red Hat Linux on our home desktops. Then we tried several
versions of Fedora, years ago. Some with excellent results and some
with bad results. Using CentOS now and it's a winner. If you have some
very recent HW, or a Laptop,  you may need to use Fedora, but if not,
CentOS is the way to go, IMHO. Test your boxes with a CentOS LiveCD
before you do an install onto bare metal, to be sure it will run OK on
your HW.  If you need the latest and greatest, this isn't the distro
you want, but if you want long life, stability and security, this is
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Re: [CentOS] patching from different directory

2009-09-10 Thread Carlos Santana
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Filipe Brandenburger
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 14:28, Carlos Santana  wrote:
>> Thanks Filipe.
>>
>> I can do it by cd-ing into file-to-be-patched dir.
>
> So, this means it's fixed for you?
>
>> I think the -d
>> switch in patch command does similar thing (cd). But then it assumes
>> diff file also to be present in that new directory.
>
> Yes, it will change directory before looking for the patch file, so I
> believe you should use absolute pathnames or redirections.
>
>> I guess the problem is not having full dir path in the diff file
>> itself. The diff file mentions only file name. How do I get full path
>> in my diff file? Any clues?
>
> I believe the "problem" is that you are not using "patch" as you are
> supposed to use it...
>
> Read the first lines of "man patch", it will say: "but usually just:
> patch -pnum 
> That is how it's intended to be used in most cases. You cd to the
> directory where the source tree is, then call "patch" using
> redirection to get the patch file from stdin.
>
That's helpful. Thanks for the details Filipe.

I need to CD into the to-be-patched-source dir and then patch works.
This is because the context diff file is not having absolute path to
the to-be-patched file.

If I manually edit first line of context diff starting with *** to
provide absolute path, everything works fine.

Is there any way to get absolute path in the diff o/p?


> Does using "patch" in that solve your problem? Otherwise, please state
> clearly what you are trying to achieve.
>
> HTH,
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS vs Fedora?

2009-09-10 Thread Les Mikesell
Lanny Marcus wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 6:31 PM, David Suhendrik  wrote:
>> I'm newbie and i want to know Your opinion about CentOS vs Fedora, hopefully
>> this isn't make a flame, and just to curious..
>> Actucally now I'm using CentOS as some servers. ^_^'
> 
> Catching up on reading the list and here are my 2 cents: We started
> out using Red Hat Linux on our home desktops. Then we tried several
> versions of Fedora, years ago. Some with excellent results and some
> with bad results. Using CentOS now and it's a winner. If you have some
> very recent HW, or a Laptop,  you may need to use Fedora, but if not,
> CentOS is the way to go, IMHO. Test your boxes with a CentOS LiveCD
> before you do an install onto bare metal, to be sure it will run OK on
> your HW.  If you need the latest and greatest, this isn't the distro
> you want, but if you want long life, stability and security, this is
> the way to go.

Unfortunately you often want a different tradeoff between stability and 
features in the base OS and the applications you use and the way 
distributions are packaged makes it difficult to get both right all the 
time.  In the first year or maybe even two after a CentOS version is 
released, the applications aren't two badly out of date.  After that, 
you are happy that your system isn't crashing but you'll start to miss 
the features that are included in fresher releases and probably start to 
run into bugs that won't ever have the fixes backed into the old 
application versions.  Sometimes you can find newer versions on 3rd 
party sites like rpmforge, sometimes you can build your own (both with 
some risk) and sometimes you just put up with what's there knowing you 
are years behind current development.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS vs Fedora?

2009-09-10 Thread Michael Semcheski
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Scott Silva  wrote:

> If you want rock solid stable for up to 7 years, pick CentOS.
> If you want the latest versions of PHP, Apache, or whatever else, and don't
> mind re-installing every 6 months to a year, choose Fedora.
>
>
Just my $.02...  I use CentOS on a number of servers and Fedora on some
servers and desktops.

It comes down to what the system will be doing.  For the NFS server, where
reliability is the main goal, I use CentOS.

For a (virtual) server that runs GLPI and OCS Inventory, I use Fedora.
 Those applications are part of Fedora, so its very easy to get up and
running and keep everything up to date.

For the desktops, its Fedora - the bottom line is Firefox is the most
commonly used app, and there's a nice, rather up to date version in Fedora.
 Lots of useful apps built in (available through yum), which is nice.  This
was a bigger plus when CentOS was on FF1.5, and Fedora was on FF2.

What I'm working towards is getting everything to be managed and controlled
by puppet, so that reinstalling the OS is easy, and switching between Fedora
and CentOS (or *gasp* Ubuntu) is easy.  The goal is flexibility and
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS vs Fedora?

2009-09-10 Thread Les Mikesell
Michael Semcheski wrote:
> 
> For a (virtual) server that runs GLPI and OCS Inventory, I use Fedora. 
>  Those applications are part of Fedora, so its very easy to get up and 
> running and keep everything up to date.

For this particular case, you could use CentOS with the epel and remi
(http://blog.famillecollet.com/pages/Config-en) repositories enabled.

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Re: [CentOS] patching from different directory

2009-09-10 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Hi,

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 17:30, Carlos Santana  wrote:
> Is there any way to get absolute path in the diff o/p?

Well, yes, if you run "diff" passing absolute pathnames then (I
believe) it will create a path with absolute pathnames... (It might
not, considering that this is not very useful. GNU tar is an example
of utility which transforms absolute into relative paths since
relative is more useful than relative, although I don't believe diff
does the same, the same logic would apply to it as well.)

However, I don't really see the usefulness of that since that would
restrict you to patching on the same absolute path where you created
the diff...

The purpose of "patch" is for others to be able to apply the same
changes to their codebases, which can be located anywhere in the
directory tree and not necessarily in the same path where you did it.

What exactly is the big problem of changing directories before you
apply the patch?

HTH,
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Re: [CentOS] trouble playing quicktimes at apple.com/trailers

2009-09-10 Thread fred smith
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 07:26:45PM +0200, Olaf Mueller wrote:
> fred smith wrote:
> 
> > While I haven't tried that,
> ?
> 
> > I don't think that's the problem I'm 
> > having: I can copy and paste the URL of the .mov file into mplayer or
> > vlc from the commandline, and get the exact same symptoms. I.E., there
> > is no browser involved in that transaction but it fails the same way.
> You are completely wrong. Read the link, or read it not, it is your
> choice.

ok, thanks for the kick in the rear. I looked, read thru the entries,
checked out the bug report, installed the add-on, set up the user agent
entry as described and voila.

Doggone those Apple folks. why would they be so stingy as to PREVENT people
from using otherwise-compatible players from seeing the trailer? Just
doesn't make sense in any way other than sheer meanness. I mean, what real
business justification could there be?

Thanks!

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Re: [CentOS] trouble playing quicktimes at apple.com/trailers

2009-09-10 Thread nate
fred smith wrote:

> Doggone those Apple folks. why would they be so stingy as to PREVENT people
> from using otherwise-compatible players from seeing the trailer? Just
> doesn't make sense in any way other than sheer meanness. I mean, what real
> business justification could there be?

They don't have the opportunity to up sell you to Quicktime pro?
Perhaps they have changed it but I recall last time I used
Apple Quicktime(I admit it's been years), it would pester you
almost all the time to upgrade.

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Re: [CentOS] trouble playing quicktimes at apple.com/trailers

2009-09-10 Thread fred smith
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 05:43:21PM -0700, nate wrote:
> fred smith wrote:
> 
> > Doggone those Apple folks. why would they be so stingy as to PREVENT people
> > from using otherwise-compatible players from seeing the trailer? Just
> > doesn't make sense in any way other than sheer meanness. I mean, what real
> > business justification could there be?
> 
> They don't have the opportunity to up sell you to Quicktime pro?
> Perhaps they have changed it but I recall last time I used
> Apple Quicktime(I admit it's been years), it would pester you
> almost all the time to upgrade.

Perhaps that's what they're thinking. but if so, they're wrong. Until
such time as they offer a native Linux quicktime client I ain't gonna
ever use it. they can whine all they want about us open source scumbags
trying to freeload, but I'll give up being able to see their trailers
before I'll switch to one of their currently-supported operating systems.
I'd venture that most of us Linux users feel the same way. So, they're
not gaining anything other than ill will by blocking us from viewing.

but hey, some bright person in the community will almost always figure
out how to get around such artificial limitations. My thanks to those
who figured out this one!

-- 
 Fred Smith -- fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us -
The Lord detests the way of the wicked 
  but he loves those who pursue righteousness.
- Proverbs 15:9 (niv) -
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Re: [CentOS] Fork: Resource Temporarily Unavailable

2009-09-10 Thread Ross Walker
On Sep 10, 2009, at 2:10 PM, Gustavo Pastorino  wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> I installed a while ago two CentOS 5.3 servers. One of them was
> running Samba and another OpenLDAP. I configured Samba to act as a PDC
> on the network and everything was working fine, I was already on
> policies rules and desktop migrations.
>
> One day, another analyst changed our subnet, and the domain was
> implemented only on our sector for start. After the subnet change, we
> had a comunication problem and we figured out it that we needed to
> configure samba as WINS server too. After a while, he changed Proxy
> requests for WINS to samba, only as a test (some of the requests).
> Before we could configure samba, BUM, the samba server crashed and
> after some crash/restart it showed this on boot time (of course when
> sshd was starting)
>
> * /etc/rc3.d/S55sshd: fork: Resource Temporarily Unavailable
>
> After that, ALL CentOS installations have this problem after yum  
> update:
>
> * /etc/init.d/functions: fork: Resource Temporarily Unavailable
>
> I have only one clue: EPEL repository. I installed and configured
> yum-priorities of course.
>
> I´m on my last test installation and I am sending now this e-mail
> because if it crashes and i have no resolution, they are going to ask
> me for another distro install, and I like CentOS too much to do that.
>
> Just one last thing: its a 6000-7000 user environment and we're on a
> hurry, so I can't do long time testing or stay with something that may
> one day crash.

Boot into run level 1, bring up auxillary services one by one waiting  
to make sure each works until you reach the one that borks, then  
reboot into level 1 disable problem service, go into run level 3, then  
diag config file and figure out what broke.

My bet is samba and some script that is kicked off when user's connect.

-Ross

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Re: [CentOS] Kickstart help

2009-09-10 Thread Daniel Burkland
Guys I wanted to thank you for your tremendous advice on my kickstart 
setup. In regards to the removal of the yum update in kickstart config, 
how do you guys keep your internal repository synced with the public one?

Thanks,

Dan
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Re: [CentOS] Kickstart help

2009-09-10 Thread nate
Daniel Burkland wrote:
> Guys I wanted to thank you for your tremendous advice on my kickstart
> setup. In regards to the removal of the yum update in kickstart config,
> how do you guys keep your internal repository synced with the public one?

I only update mine a couple times a year but I use rsync.
rsync -av --delete rsync://mirrors.kernel.org/centos/5/updates/x86_64/
latest/x86_64/
rsync -av --delete rsync://mirrors.kernel.org/centos/5/updates/i386/
latest/i386/

If there is a specific update I need more often then I download
that manually. I don't use yum myself as it conflicts with
what I have configured in cfengine. I do use yum on a test
box to build a list of rpms to install then store those rpms
in a particular location and force install them to do the
upgrade as part of my %post in kickstart.

nate

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Re: [CentOS] trouble playing quicktimes at apple.com/trailers

2009-09-10 Thread Olaf Mueller
fred smith wrote:

> So, they're not gaining anything other than ill will by
> blocking us from viewing.
Yes. An other example for such a behaviour is Amazon.com.
Amazon.com has changed their data API to require that all searches be
signed with a secret key, unique to each user. As a result my tellico
database in version for kde 3.5 is not working any more.


regards
Olaf

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