Re: [CentOS] Don't forget to use torrents for your downloads!

2009-04-02 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
>Of William L. Maltby
>Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 3:26 AM
>To: CentOS General List
>Subject: [CentOS] Don't forget to use torrents for your downloads!
>
>For those who may forget, usin torrents to download and share the new
>images will get you faster downloads (if enough folks participate) if
>you have a "fat" pipe and alleviate the load on the CentOS servers.
>
>I have a "chubby" pipe (~ 1.2MB/sec) and got the stuff really quickly
>earlier today.
>
>If your torrent has distributed hash table capability, I suggest that
>you also use that feature.

Sharing as fast as I can, never seen this kind of activity before, it's like a 
shark feeding frenzy... The CentOS-5.3-x86_64-bin-DVD torrent I'm seeding says 
the share ratio is 40928, and rapidly increasing. That can't possibly be 
right, can it??

Have to cap the upload speed to 25kBps during work hours, or my computer would 
be unusable. Maybe I should move this seeding to a CentOS-machine instead...

DHT is enabled over here as well.
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Re: [CentOS] Nvidia driver on CentOS 5.3

2009-04-02 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
>Of Michael A. Peters
>Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 7:29 AM
>To: CentOS mailing list
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Nvidia driver on CentOS 5.3
>
>I suppose I should move to the new way that relinks it automagically
>when new kernel is released, I don't know - I'm fine with the kernel
>version specific kmod- way.

Automagically? Care to elaborate on that? Sounds like a useful mechanism to
me.
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Re: [CentOS] Don't forget to use torrents for your downloads!

2009-04-02 Thread Timo Schoeler
>> For those who may forget, usin torrents to download and share the new
>> images will get you faster downloads (if enough folks participate) if
>> you have a "fat" pipe and alleviate the load on the CentOS servers.
>>
>> I have a "chubby" pipe (~ 1.2MB/sec) and got the stuff really quickly
>> earlier today.
>>
>> If your torrent has distributed hash table capability, I suggest that
>> you also use that feature.
> 
> Sharing as fast as I can, never seen this kind of activity before, it's like 
> a 
> shark feeding frenzy... The CentOS-5.3-x86_64-bin-DVD torrent I'm seeding 
> says 
> the share ratio is 40928, and rapidly increasing. That can't possibly be 
> right, can it??
> 
> Have to cap the upload speed to 25kBps during work hours, or my computer 
> would 
> be unusable. Maybe I should move this seeding to a CentOS-machine instead...
> 
> DHT is enabled over here as well.

Hi there,

there's really some traffic going on torrent-wise:

[View: main]
CentOS-5.3-i386-bin-DVD
done 3787,1 MB Rate: 928,2 /   0,0 KB Uploaded: 142450,0 MB

[View: main]
CentOS-5.3-x86_64-bin-DVD
done 4346,3 MB Rate: 194,7 /   0,0 KB Uploaded: 100310,6 MB

;)

[both have a upload limit of 2Mbps, which is sometimes hit.]

Cheers,

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[CentOS] Out of sync mirror / nss error

2009-04-02 Thread Kingsly John
centos.mirror.nac.net is out of sync (at least for updates)

http://centos.mirror.nac.net/5.3/updates/x86_64/RPMS/

vs

http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/centos/5.3/updates/x86_64/RPMS/

this is what is causing the nss/nss-devel error when doing a yum update

Transaction Check Error:
  package nss-3.12.2.0-4.el5.centos (which is newer than
nss-3.12.2.0-2.el5.centos) is already installed

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[CentOS] Shadow passwords NOT md5'ed ?

2009-04-02 Thread Frédérique Da Luene

Hello,
I have a very weird problem on a CentOS 5.2 system. A few months ago, encrypted 
passwords in the shadow file were MD5'ed - allowing for long passwords, rather 
than only 8 characters max.
Today, passwords are 3DES'ed only. No way to find how the system reverted to 
DES-encrypting. But what's more bothersome is we cannot get the system to go 
the MD5 way again, despite all our best efforts.
Authconfig says this :

pam_unix is always enabled
 shadow passwords are enabled
 password hashing algorithm is md5

So... where to look ?
Tia,
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Re: [CentOS] Upgrade

2009-04-02 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Thomas Dukes wrote on Wed, 1 Apr 2009 21:04:02 -0400:

> Changed all references in repo file to baseurl from mirror

Please don't do that. If you want to hardcode the mirror then look for a 
mirror that you "like" and use that one, but not the central CentOS 
distribution base.

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Re: [CentOS] Out of sync mirror / nss error

2009-04-02 Thread Karanbir Singh
Kingsly John wrote:
> centos.mirror.nac.net is out of sync (at least for updates)
> 
> http://centos.mirror.nac.net/5.3/updates/x86_64/RPMS/
> 
> 

you should really be getting in touch with the admin of that mirror - 
almost none of the mirrors admins will be on this list.

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Re: [CentOS] Update for 5.3 failed on subversion and gstreamer-plugins-good

2009-04-02 Thread Ralph Angenendt
MHR wrote:
> Transaction Check Error:
>   package subversion-1.4.6-0.1.el5.rf (which is newer than
> subversion-1.4.2-4.el5) is already installed
>   file /usr/lib64/gstreamer-0.10/libgstqtdemux.so from install of
> gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.9-1.el5 conflicts with file from package
> gstreamer-plugins-bad-0.10.3-8.el5.rf
> 
> The glibc update went fine.  Do I need to uninstall subversion and
> gstreamer-plugins-good to update, then reinstall them?  I did not see
> these listed in the release notes

Why should we list rpmforge packages in the Release Notes? exclude
subversion from base if you want to use the one from rpmforge because it
is newer - and remove gstreamer-plugins-bad, because it shares some
files with gstreamer-plugins-good from from the base repository.

There will be a fix for gstreamer-plugins-bad from rpmforge soon.

But that up there is definitely not a problem which can be solved within
CentOS.

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] Shadow passwords NOT md5'ed ?

2009-04-02 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Frédérique Da Luene wrote:
> pam_unix is always enabled
>  shadow passwords are enabled
>  password hashing algorithm is md5

Check /etc/sysconfig/authconfig for 

USEMD5=yes

If that is there and you still get 3DES passwords, then, ummm, check
that your /usr/bin/passwd is the one which is shipped with CentOS.

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Re: [CentOS] Upgrade

2009-04-02 Thread Mufit Eribol
Michael A. Peters wrote:
> Mufit Eribol wrote:
>   
>> Michael A. Peters wrote:
>> 
>>> Thomas Dukes wrote:
>>>   
 The error I got when I ran 'yum update' was:

 Error:  Missing Dependency: nss = 3.12.2.0-2-el5.centos is needed by 
 package
 nss-devel
 
 
>>> Yes, that will do it - devel packages do need to be the same EVR.
>>> Sounds like you figured it out.
>>>   
>> I have exactly the same problem. No nss-devel is installed currently. 
>> But yum update always gives the below message:
>>
>> ...
>> Package nss-devel.i386 0:3.12.2.0-2.el5.centos set to be updated
>> ...
>> nss = 3.12.2.0-2.el5.centos is needed by package nss-devel
>> ...
>>
>> I can't install nss-devel either due to the very same error.
>>
>> Sorry Michael, I still haven't figured it out. No clue at all.
>> 
>
> Sounds like something in your upgrade requires nss-devel but an 
> nss-devel to match the updates nss isn't in the repo, so the update 
> finds the wrong nss-devel.
>
> What happens when you comment out the mirror list and uncomment the 
> baseurl for both base and updates?
>   

"yum update" gives the error. But "yum clean all && yum upgrade" fixed 
the problem as stated by one of the above posters and upgraded to 5.3 
without any problem.

Thank you.

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Re: [CentOS] Out of sync mirror / nss error

2009-04-02 Thread D Tucny
2009/4/2 Karanbir Singh 

> Kingsly John wrote:
> > centos.mirror.nac.net is out of sync (at least for updates)
> >
> > http://centos.mirror.nac.net/5.3/updates/x86_64/RPMS/
> >
> >
>
> you should really be getting in touch with the admin of that mirror -
> almost none of the mirrors admins will be on this list.
>

Correct me if I'm wrong, but, the mirror admins aren't listed anywhere are
they? I couldn't see any mention in the mirror list pages, in the mirror
status pages or on the mirror itself that suggested who the admin of that
server was... Maybe John has access to a list, but, if not, it could prove
tricky for him to find the admin if they aren't on this list...

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Re: [CentOS] Shadow passwords NOT md5'ed ?

2009-04-02 Thread Barry Brimer
> Hello,
> I have a very weird problem on a CentOS 5.2 system. A few months ago, 
> encrypted passwords in the shadow file were MD5'ed - allowing for long 
> passwords, rather than only 8 characters max.
> Today, passwords are 3DES'ed only. No way to find how the system reverted to 
> DES-encrypting. But what's more bothersome is we cannot get the system to go 
> the MD5 way again, despite all our best efforts.
> Authconfig says this :
>
> pam_unix is always enabled
> shadow passwords are enabled
> password hashing algorithm is md5
>
> So... where to look ?

Have you checked /etc/libuser.conf for crypt_style? pwck and grpck can 
verify integrity of the data in /etc/passwd /etc/group /etc/shadow 
/etc/gshadow.
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Re: [CentOS] Don't forget to use torrents for your downloads!

2009-04-02 Thread William L. Maltby

On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 09:14 +0200, Timo Schoeler wrote:
> 

> Hi there,
> 
> there's really some traffic going on torrent-wise:
> 
> [View: main]
> CentOS-5.3-i386-bin-DVD
> done 3787,1 MB Rate: 928,2 /   0,0 KB Uploaded: 142450,0 MB
> 
> [View: main]
> CentOS-5.3-x86_64-bin-DVD
> done 4346,3 MB Rate: 194,7 /   0,0 KB Uploaded: 100310,6 MB
> 
> ;)
> 
> [both have a upload limit of 2Mbps, which is sometimes hit.]

For those who are insatiably curious,

  http://torrent.centos.org:6969/

It gets really interesting at certain times.

> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Timo
> 

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Re: [CentOS] Out of sync mirror / nss error

2009-04-02 Thread Karanbir Singh
D Tucny wrote:
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but, the mirror admins aren't listed anywhere 
> are they? I couldn't see any mention in the mirror list pages, in the 
> mirror status pages or on the mirror itself that suggested who the admin 
> of that server was... Maybe John has access to a list, but, if not, it 
> could prove tricky for him to find the admin if they aren't on this list...

there is a centos-mirrors list at http://lists.centos.org/ - admins are 
required to be on that list in order to get listed as a centos mirror.

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Re: [CentOS] Nvidia driver on CentOS 5.3

2009-04-02 Thread Michael A. Peters
Sorin Srbu wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
> Behalf
>> Of Michael A. Peters
>> Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 7:29 AM
>> To: CentOS mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Nvidia driver on CentOS 5.3
>>
>> I suppose I should move to the new way that relinks it automagically
>> when new kernel is released, I don't know - I'm fine with the kernel
>> version specific kmod- way.
> 
> Automagically? Care to elaborate on that? Sounds like a useful mechanism to
> me.

I don't know too much about it - but I believe it is what some of the 
3rd party repos have moved do.
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Re: [CentOS] Don't forget to use torrents for your downloads!

2009-04-02 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
>Of William L. Maltby
>Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 1:47 PM
>To: CentOS mailing list
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Don't forget to use torrents for your downloads!
>
>For those who are insatiably curious,
>
>  http://torrent.centos.org:6969/
>
>It gets really interesting at certain times.

According to wifey, I'm one of those insatiably curious ones. ;-) Anyway,
that's a lot of data being shuffled! You don't see that kind of TB-amounts
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Re: [CentOS] Nvidia driver on CentOS 5.3

2009-04-02 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
>Of Michael A. Peters
>Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 1:50 PM
>To: CentOS mailing list
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Nvidia driver on CentOS 5.3
>
>>> I suppose I should move to the new way that relinks it automagically
>>> when new kernel is released, I don't know - I'm fine with the kernel
>>> version specific kmod- way.
>>
>> Automagically? Care to elaborate on that? Sounds like a useful mechanism
to
>> me.
>
>I don't know too much about it - but I believe it is what some of the
>3rd party repos have moved do.

Ok, google it is, but what do I search for? I really am clueless as to what
this thing is...

Automagic doesn't quite feel like what I want to search for. "automatic
kernel link graphics driver" or some such? 
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Re: [CentOS] Don't forget to use torrents for your downloads!

2009-04-02 Thread Karanbir Singh
Sorin Srbu wrote:
> According to wifey, I'm one of those insatiably curious ones. ;-) Anyway,
> that's a lot of data being shuffled! You don't see that kind of TB-amounts
> everyday, at least I don't.

here is a bit more trivia for those interested: the 4 main 'seeds' that 
came up were each running with 100mbps open uplinks. Atleast one person 
in the early stages was running at 200 odd mbps.

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Re: [CentOS] Nvidia driver on CentOS 5.3

2009-04-02 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
>Of Steve Huff
>Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 2:03 PM
>To: CentOS mailing list
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Nvidia driver on CentOS 5.3
>
>
>On Apr 2, 2009, at 3:06 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote:
>> Automagically? Care to elaborate on that? Sounds like a useful
>> mechanism to
>> me.
>
>it's very useful.
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_Kernel_Module_Support
>
>$ man dkms
>$ sudo yum --enablerepo=rpmforge install nvidia-x11-drv
>$ sudo reboot
>...
>profit!
>
>once you have done this, DKMS will rebuild the nvidia driver module
>for you the first time you boot a new kernel.  provided the module
>builds without problems, you won't have to think about it any more.

Nice, thanks! I'll try this out on a machine.

On a related sidetrack; is there any difference between the proprietary 
Nvidia-drivers and the ones from eg rpmforge?   Specifically, we use the 
proprietary Nvidia drivers on our dozen or so course computers because they 
support stereo-3D. When our former *nix-admin set this up years ago, there 
weren't anything else to use than the proprietary drivers. Hence my question.
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Re: [CentOS] Nvidia driver on CentOS 5.3

2009-04-02 Thread Steve Huff


On Apr 2, 2009, at 3:06 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote:
Automagically? Care to elaborate on that? Sounds like a useful  
mechanism to

me.


it's very useful.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_Kernel_Module_Support

$ man dkms
$ sudo yum --enablerepo=rpmforge install nvidia-x11-drv
$ sudo reboot
...
profit!

once you have done this, DKMS will rebuild the nvidia driver module  
for you the first time you boot a new kernel.  provided the module  
builds without problems, you won't have to think about it any more.


-steve

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Re: [CentOS] Don't forget to use torrents for your downloads!

2009-04-02 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
>Of Karanbir Singh
>Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 2:07 PM
>To: CentOS mailing list
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Don't forget to use torrents for your downloads!
>
>Sorin Srbu wrote:
>> According to wifey, I'm one of those insatiably curious ones. ;-) Anyway,
>> that's a lot of data being shuffled! You don't see that kind of
TB-amounts
>> everyday, at least I don't.
>
>here is a bit more trivia for those interested: the 4 main 'seeds' that
>came up were each running with 100mbps open uplinks. Atleast one person
>in the early stages was running at 200 odd mbps.

That's dedication... I decap my bt-client after work hours (from 1700hrs to
0700 weekdays, and full speed continuesly over the weekends). I wonder if
the ridiculously high 40k-share ratio Azureus reports here has something to
do with this. Hmm...
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Re: [CentOS] Nvidia driver on CentOS 5.3

2009-04-02 Thread Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
Sorin Srbu wrote:
> On a related sidetrack; is there any difference between the proprietary 
> Nvidia-drivers and the ones from eg rpmforge? Specifically, we use 
> the 
> proprietary Nvidia drivers on our dozen or so course computers because they 
> support stereo-3D. When our former *nix-admin set this up years ago, there 
> weren't anything else to use than the proprietary drivers. Hence my question.

the rpmforge driver *is* the proprietary nvidia driver. It's just nicely 
packaged in an rpm, with dkms for rebuilding when you get a new kernel.
It's also not the latest version, which may or may not be a problem for 
you. It's working well enough for a lot of people, but YMMV.

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Re: [CentOS] Don't forget to use torrents for your downloads!

2009-04-02 Thread Karanbir Singh
Sorin Srbu wrote:
> That's dedication... I decap my bt-client after work hours (from 1700hrs to
> 0700 weekdays, and full speed continuesly over the weekends). I wonder if
> the ridiculously high 40k-share ratio Azureus reports here has something to
> do with this. Hmm...

the machines seeding at those high 100mbps rates are all hosted in DC's 
with good peerings all around - and we've spoken with the hosting 
companies about what these machines are doing!

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Re: [CentOS] Nvidia driver on CentOS 5.3

2009-04-02 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
>Of Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
>Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 2:32 PM
>To: CentOS mailing list
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Nvidia driver on CentOS 5.3
>
>Sorin Srbu wrote:
>> On a related sidetrack; is there any difference between the proprietary
>> Nvidia-drivers and the ones from eg rpmforge?Specifically, we use
the
>> proprietary Nvidia drivers on our dozen or so course computers because
they
>> support stereo-3D. When our former *nix-admin set this up years ago,
there
>> weren't anything else to use than the proprietary drivers. Hence my
question.
>
>the rpmforge driver *is* the proprietary nvidia driver. It's just nicely
>packaged in an rpm, with dkms for rebuilding when you get a new kernel.
>It's also not the latest version, which may or may not be a problem for
>you. It's working well enough for a lot of people, but YMMV.

Thx, I'm trouble-shooting now. Dkms autoinstaller something-or-other didn't
go down too well. Looks promising though. 8-)
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Re: [CentOS] Don't forget to use torrents for your downloads!

2009-04-02 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
>Of Karanbir Singh
>Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 2:34 PM
>To: CentOS mailing list
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Don't forget to use torrents for your downloads!
>
>Sorin Srbu wrote:
>> That's dedication... I decap my bt-client after work hours (from 1700hrs
to
>> 0700 weekdays, and full speed continuesly over the weekends). I wonder if
>> the ridiculously high 40k-share ratio Azureus reports here has something
to
>> do with this. Hmm...
>
>the machines seeding at those high 100mbps rates are all hosted in DC's
>with good peerings all around - and we've spoken with the hosting
>companies about what these machines are doing!

Guess everybody was really tweaked to get the stuff really fast. ;-D

Nice go though. I got my copies pretty fast too. It was well worth the wait.
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Re: [CentOS] Two sets of Heartbeat HTTPD clusters on same subnet

2009-04-02 Thread J Potter

> I have successfully configure two machines to use heartbeat to cluster
> httpd. The two nodes are called etk-1 and etk-2. I am trying to
> configure another two machines to act as a separate cluster (on the
> same IP subnet). These two nodes are called radu-1 and radu-2.

We successfully do this with many pairs of HA nodes in the same  
subnet, using different UDP ports...

Under /etc/ha.d/ha.cf:
udpport 

Use a different authkey for each pair so as to avoid accidental snafus  
with mixing up nodes from different pairs.

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Re: [CentOS] Shadow passwords NOT md5'ed ?

2009-04-02 Thread Frédérique Da Luene

Hi Barry

--- En date de : Jeu 2.4.09, Barry Brimer  a écrit :

> De: Barry Brimer 
> Have you checked /etc/libuser.conf for crypt_style? pwck
> and grpck can verify integrity of the data in /etc/passwd /etc/group
> /etc/shadow /etc/gshadow.

I have just checked, and libuser.conf has :

crypt_style = md5
modules = files shadow
create_modules = files shadow

pwck and grpck both tell us everything is ok.
This is really strange...
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[CentOS] upgrade/no upgrade

2009-04-02 Thread rray_1
What is the downside of sticking with 5.2
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Re: [CentOS] upgrade/no upgrade

2009-04-02 Thread Robert Moskowitz
rra...@comcast.net wrote:
> What is the downside of sticking with 5.2
>   

It is EOLed. That is all fixes to 5.2 are 5.3.

So there is little choice unless you take on the whole management issue.

BTW, I had some systems that would simply NOT do an install with the 5.2 
boot CD. I HAD to install with 5.1 then upgrade them to 5.2. So I only 
recently finally pulled my local 5.1 repo.
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Re: [CentOS] upgrade/no upgrade

2009-04-02 Thread Ralph Angenendt
rra...@comcast.net wrote:
> What is the downside of sticking with 5.2

No security fixes. And the cool kids on the block will laugh at you.

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Re: [CentOS] Shadow passwords NOT md5'ed ?

2009-04-02 Thread Les Mikesell
Frédérique Da Luene wrote:
> 
>> De: Barry Brimer 
>> Have you checked /etc/libuser.conf for crypt_style? pwck
>> and grpck can verify integrity of the data in /etc/passwd /etc/group
>> /etc/shadow /etc/gshadow.
> 
> I have just checked, and libuser.conf has :
> 
> crypt_style = md5
> modules = files shadow
> create_modules = files shadow
> 
> pwck and grpck both tell us everything is ok.
> This is really strange...


Existing entries don't (and can't) change when you change crypt_style so 
everything should still be OK.   What happens when you add a new user 
with the system tools?

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[CentOS] duplicate commands

2009-04-02 Thread Melinda Odom

Hi,

I just upgraded to CentOS 5.3 last night and see these duplicate  
commands (migration/0, migration/1) when running top -c?


Is this normal?  If not, how do I fix it to make only one command show  
up?


1 root 15 0 2064 592 512 S 0.0 0.0 0:03.40 init [3]
2 root RT -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 [migration/0]
3 root 34 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 [ksoftirqd/0]
4 root RT -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 [watchdog/0]
5 root RT -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 [migration/1]
6 root 34 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 [ksoftirqd/1]
7 root RT -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 [watchdog/1]
8 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 [events/0]
9 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 [events/1]
10 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 [khelper]
11 root 12 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 [kthread]
15 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.08 [kblockd/0]
16 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.47 [kblockd/1]
17 root 16 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 [kacpid]
90 root 16 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 [cqueue/0]
91 root 17 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 [cqueue/1]
94 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 [khubd]
96 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 [kseriod]
160 root 23 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 [pdflush]
161 root 15 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:02.79 [pdflush]
162 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:01.03 [kswapd0]
163 root 19 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 [aio/0]
164 root 20 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 [aio/1]
316 root 11 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 [kpsmoused]
346 root 12 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 [ata/0]
347 root 12 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 [ata/1]

Best Regards,
Melinda Odom
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Re: [CentOS] duplicate commands

2009-04-02 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Melinda Odom wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just upgraded to CentOS 5.3 last night and see these duplicate  
> commands (migration/0, migration/1) when running top -c?
>
> Is this normal?  If not, how do I fix it to make only one command show  
> up?

Pretty normal for a system with two CPUs/dual core.

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Re: [CentOS] duplicate commands

2009-04-02 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Melinda Odom wrote on Thu, 2 Apr 2009 10:27:55 -0500:

> I just upgraded to CentOS 5.3 last night and see these duplicate  
> commands (migration/0, migration/1) when running top -c?

you did never run top before?

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Re: [CentOS] Don't forget to use torrents for your downloads!

2009-04-02 Thread John R Pierce
Karanbir Singh wrote:
> Sorin Srbu wrote:
>   
>> According to wifey, I'm one of those insatiably curious ones. ;-) Anyway,
>> that's a lot of data being shuffled! You don't see that kind of TB-amounts
>> everyday, at least I don't.
>> 
>
> here is a bit more trivia for those interested: the 4 main 'seeds' that 
> came up were each running with 100mbps open uplinks. Atleast one person 
> in the early stages was running at 200 odd mbps.
>   


geez, makes me wonder if I should even bother to leave mine running with 
a 50kbyte/sec uplink ca (thats about 500kbps)...   if I raise the cap 
much higher, it seriously throttles my home network (6Mbps in, 700k 
out)... I know, I know, I should implement some form of QoS or packet 
prioritization at my firewall.


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Re: [CentOS] Don't forget to use torrents for your downloads!

2009-04-02 Thread Karanbir Singh
John R Pierce wrote:
>> here is a bit more trivia for those interested: the 4 main 'seeds' that 
>> came up were each running with 100mbps open uplinks. Atleast one person 
>> in the early stages was running at 200 odd mbps.
>>   
> geez, makes me wonder if I should even bother to leave mine running with 
> a 50kbyte/sec uplink ca (thats about 500kbps)...   

If you can - you should. The costs of running those torrents at 100mbps 
is way too high to run over any sustained period of time ( and they are 
all offline now ). So once the first rush has spread out - the whole 
user experience is totally driven by the other users part of the deluge.

Normally, I'd keep 1 machine running from within .centos.org to make 
sure there was always atleast 1 seed for each of the torrents. And that 
machine runs only at 10mbps, for all the torrents and is also a part of 
other services within centos.org

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[CentOS] CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 50, Issue 2

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Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 23:53:03 +
From: Karanbir Singh 
Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2009:0326 Important CentOS 5 i386
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CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2009:0326 Important

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2009-0326.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

i386:
e043c7a35fa15bf1440c8108ec56f091  kernel-2.6.18-128.1.6.el5.i686.rpm
b8ebb86dc506162ed7acba02b98dda5b  kernel-debug-2.6.18-128.1.6.el5.i686.rpm
c0d63a647563b04a5844efe7771f8a3f  
kernel-debug-debuginfo-2.6.18-128.1.6.el5.i686.rpm
c04552e6188e4bef49f5c2030e6ec048  kernel-debug-devel-2.6.18-128.1.6.el5.i686.rpm
a27d27b57417c344ad3b648d9f0f062c  kernel-debuginfo-2.6.18-128.1.6.el5.i686.rpm
80f8f5a9b1b9fbe5758ecfd351c63b89  
kernel-debuginfo-common-2.6.18-128.1.6.el5.i686.rpm
4f9cebd8ea89a0430ab23930ea5da47b  kernel-devel-2.6.18-128.1.6.el5.i686.rpm
ad40116878ea62f4bd0adb10780f35fb  kernel-doc-2.6.18-128.1.6.el5.noarch.rpm
1a7c4488f9c22ffb8a829f1b42da0cca  kernel-headers-2.6.18-128.1.6.el5.i386.rpm
3aa9025aa89f463a67c6d94d131b122a  kernel-PAE-2.6.18-128.1.6.el5.i686.rpm
adddc5fcb252983136e2a4af50757ab6  
kernel-PAE-debuginfo-2.6.18-128.1.6.el5.i686.rpm
e2d35fc212910983b2d2ac787d622c3b  kernel-PAE-devel-2.6.18-128.1.6.el5.i686.rpm
f50b7051031f0f71d67c3f07c22f  kernel-xen-2.6.18-128.1.6.el5.i686.rpm
e614ba82f0e192d48a9b90f50990f1df  
kernel-xen-debuginfo-2.6.18-128.1.6.el5.i686.rpm
89fbb778f65c7c4a77d983ffa2e1b06f  kernel-xen-devel-2.6.18-128.1.6.el5.i686.rpm

Source:
51ffaeef6c7f2517608993184633a340  kernel-2.6.18-128.1.6.el5.src.rpm


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Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2009:0326 Important CentOS 5 x86_64
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CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2009:0326 Important

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2009-0326.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

x86_64:
2b62ec56108c44ab31421d9597eb12d0  kernel-2.6.18-128.1.6.el5.x86_64.rpm
09b298aff5ca7a27f4164262cdf77389  kernel-debug-2.6.18-128.1.6.el5.x86_64.rpm
59be35adf801740f61cbd16251f92092  
kernel-debug-debuginfo-2.6.18-128.1.6.el5.x86_64.rpm
81914f2aef92a657f3559c559ec023de  
kernel-debug-devel-2.6.18-128.1.6.el5.x86_64.rpm
ab38b9c518c5d4ae01f5f11039841046  kernel-debuginfo-2.6.18-128.1.6.el5.x86_64.rpm
23b9b2f854d3b157e44d47d6d8235f54  
kernel-debuginfo-common-2.6.18-128.1.6.el5.x86_64.rpm
ac40a86a8d4f5b47ebc784962d9ac830  kernel-devel-2.6.18-128.1.6.el5.x86_64.rpm
ec15faa5e80fe3bf45f17dea680781a4  kernel-doc-2.6.18-128.1.6.el5.noarch.rpm
cc97bf4ff8dcd39f2f56513dd5143035  kernel-headers-2.6.18-128.1.6.el5.x86_64.rpm
ad6b4c90502693c1e1dd8afb29c7066a  kernel-xen-2.6.18-128.1.6.el5.x86_64.rpm
6b3e8282d573addcdc72c3d8b6fe9ad5  
kernel-xen-debuginfo-2.6.18-128.1.6.el5.x86_64.rpm
40d78b5f33004ab867a4917a6353618c  kernel-xen-devel-2.6.18-128.1.6.el5.x86_64.rpm

Source:
51ffaeef6c7f2517608993184633a340  kernel-2.6.18-128.1.6.el5.src.rpm


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[CentOS] 5.3 Update Success

2009-04-02 Thread Tim Nelson
Greetings CentOS Team-

Since the list tends to be filled with "things don't work" and "why did you do 
it this way" and "complaint X", I thought I'd make a small deviation...

I have a production system running on a Dell Poweredge 2650 server. I simply 
ran 'yum update' and rebooted with no problems. Everything continues to work as 
rock solid as before.

So, I just wanted to say 'Thank You' to all those who put in such hard work 
into the CentOS project. The time between releases was not a problem here. If 
it was, I guess I'd just ask for a refund. :-)

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Re: [CentOS] upgrade/no upgrade

2009-04-02 Thread Scott Silva
on 4-2-2009 6:53 AM rra...@comcast.net spake the
following:
> What is the downside of sticking with 5.2
Your hair will fall out and your ears will ring constantly.

You will gain weight that no amount of dieting and exercise will be able to
get rid of.

You will be the laughing stock of all the "cool" CentOS kids.

Hackers will infiltrate your systems and set up free porn sites.

The porn will be really lame and crappy and full of viruses and rootkits.

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Re: [CentOS] upgrade/no upgrade

2009-04-02 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
> rra...@comcast.net wrote:
>   
>> What is the downside of sticking with 5.2
>> 
>
> No security fixes. And the cool kids on the block will laugh at you.

Look at today's announcement.  Now I don't know if the security bugs 
fixed where in the old 5.2 kernel or only in the newer 5.3 kernel, but 
it makes that point about staying current with a distro.


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[CentOS] acpid events failing after first suspend

2009-04-02 Thread RedShift
Hello


I've configured acpid on my laptop to make the powerbutton hibernate the 
laptop. I modified /etc/acpid/events/power.conf with the following content:

event=PWRF
action=/usr/bin/pm-hibernate


On the first boot it works like it should, but after the laptop has resumed, 
the powerbutton doesn't respond anymore.

This is an extract from /var/log/acpid when the powerbutton responds: 

[Wed Apr  1 15:36:46 2009] client connected from 2332[0:0]
[Wed Apr  1 15:36:46 2009] 1 client rule loaded
[Wed Apr  1 15:37:16 2009] received event "button/power PWRF 0080 0001"
[Wed Apr  1 15:37:16 2009] notifying client 2198[68:68]
[Wed Apr  1 15:37:16 2009] notifying client 2332[0:0]
[Wed Apr  1 15:37:16 2009] executing action "/usr/bin/pm-hibernate"
[Wed Apr  1 15:37:16 2009] BEGIN HANDLER MESSAGES
[Wed Apr  1 18:10:47 2009] END HANDLER MESSAGES
[Wed Apr  1 18:10:47 2009] action exited with status 0
[Wed Apr  1 18:10:47 2009] completed event "button/power PWRF 0080 0001"

After the first resume, nothing like that appears in the logs, like the 
powerbutton was never pushed.

I have acpid version 1.0.4-7.el5 installed, I did not experience this issue on 
another distro which ships with acpid 1.0.8.


Thanks,


Best regards,


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[CentOS] Centos 5.3 - NetworkManager applet

2009-04-02 Thread Robert Moskowitz
So far I have upgraded 2 test laptops (no big servers or this, my main 
laptop).

I am running from local repos.  The OS repo is from downloading the isos 
and extracting them.  The Update repo I get with an rsync command.

On both laptops, the update ends with a dialog panel (oh, I am using gnome):

The NetworkManager applet caould not find some required resources.  It 
cannot continue.

I don't see anything in /var/log/messages that might shed light on this.

On both these systems, I have the NetworkManager deamon disabled.  I was 
able to start it in a terminal window with the services command and it 
seems to have worked; I see the icon on the system tray.

Meanwhile, going through messages I see a message at the end of the 
bootup about nm-system-settings about loading plugin ifcfg-rh.

First it parses ifcfg-lo and then notifies that it is ignoring the 
loopback device config.  It then goes on to read ifcfg-eth0 (which is 
set for ONBOOT=no, so nothing more happens).

So is this dialog a 'bug' or just an artifact of upgrading from 5.2 to 5.3?


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Re: [CentOS] upgrade/no upgrade

2009-04-02 Thread rray_1
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

> Ralph Angenendt wrote:
>> rra...@comcast.net wrote:
>>
>>> What is the downside of sticking with 5.2
>>>
>>
>> No security fixes. And the cool kids on the block will laugh at you.
>
> Look at today's announcement.  Now I don't know if the security bugs
> fixed where in the old 5.2 kernel or only in the newer 5.3 kernel, but
> it makes that point about staying current with a distro.
>

All of my servers use C5.2 as OpenVZ HN
I use vmlinuz-2.6.18-92.1.18.el5.028stab060.2 kernel
All containers are C5.2
Upgrading may not be possible/feasible
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Re: [CentOS] 5.3 Update Success

2009-04-02 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Tim Nelson wrote:

> So, I just wanted to say 'Thank You' to all those who put in such 
> hard work into the CentOS project. The time between releases was not 
> a problem here. If it was, I guess I'd just ask for a refund. :-)

I agree. I've only updated one server so far (the backup server, which 
is completely subservient to my will -- unlike development servers 
with real live users who might complain), but it went very smoothly. 
Thank you very, very much!

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Re: [CentOS] 5.3 Update Success

2009-04-02 Thread Laurent Wandrebeck
2009/4/2 Paul Heinlein :
> On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Tim Nelson wrote:
>
>> So, I just wanted to say 'Thank You' to all those who put in such
>> hard work into the CentOS project. The time between releases was not
>> a problem here. If it was, I guess I'd just ask for a refund. :-)
>
> I agree. I've only updated one server so far (the backup server, which
> is completely subservient to my will -- unlike development servers
> with real live users who might complain), but it went very smoothly.
> Thank you very, very much!
Updated 4 desktops (kde), 5 servers (one httpd, one postgres (pgdg),
one nfsd (not yet rebooted), two aimed at cluster testing). Everything
went fine.
Still have a couple servers to do.
Kudos to CentOS and RH team !
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Re: [CentOS] 5.3 Update Success

2009-04-02 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 02 April 2009 18:50:30 Paul Heinlein wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Tim Nelson wrote:
> > So, I just wanted to say 'Thank You' to all those who put in such
> > hard work into the CentOS project. The time between releases was not
> > a problem here. If it was, I guess I'd just ask for a refund. :-)
>
> I agree. I've only updated one server so far (the backup server, which
> is completely subservient to my will -- unlike development servers
> with real live users who might complain), but it went very smoothly.
> Thank you very, very much!

+1

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[CentOS] EXT4 root fails for kickstart

2009-04-02 Thread James A. Peltier
Hi All,

For those testing EXT4 I seem to have found an issue with anaconda where 
by if you specify EXT4 fstype in your kickstart file it will not install 
and complains that if needs another 250MB of disk space.  I've tried with 
my kickstart set for 10G for root at ext3 and it works fine.  10,15 and 
20GB with EXT4 all fail.

BTW: can't put /boot on it either.

Just a heads up for all. ;)


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Re: [CentOS] upgrade/no upgrade

2009-04-02 Thread Scott Silva
on 4-2-2009 10:40 AM rra...@comcast.net spake the
following:
> On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> 
>> Ralph Angenendt wrote:
>>> rra...@comcast.net wrote:
>>>
 What is the downside of sticking with 5.2

>>> No security fixes. And the cool kids on the block will laugh at you.
>> Look at today's announcement.  Now I don't know if the security bugs
>> fixed where in the old 5.2 kernel or only in the newer 5.3 kernel, but
>> it makes that point about staying current with a distro.
>>
> 
> All of my servers use C5.2 as OpenVZ HN
> I use vmlinuz-2.6.18-92.1.18.el5.028stab060.2 kernel
> All containers are C5.2
> Upgrading may not be possible/feasible
> Suggestions
Pray?
There must be an upgrade path for OpenVZ systems, you just have to take more
steps.

http://wiki.openvz.org/Download/kernel/rhel5/028stab060.8

is the latest kernel at OPenvz. It is dated today.



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[CentOS] cups-lpd installation fails

2009-04-02 Thread James A. Peltier
Hi All,

i am getting a cupd-lpd dependancy problem with CentOS 5.3.

package cups-lpd is not installed
Installing cups-lpd ...
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, priorities
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
2 packages excluded due to repository priority protections
Setting up Install Process
Parsing package install arguments
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package cups-lpd.i386 1:1.2.4-11.18.el5 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: cups = 1:1.2.4 for package: cups-lpd
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
1:cups-lpd-1.2.4-11.18.el5.i386 from base has depsolving problems
   --> Missing Dependency: cups = 1:1.2.4 is needed by package 
1:cups-lpd-1.2.4-11.18.el5.i386 (base)
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, priorities
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
2 packages excluded due to repository priority protections
Setting up Install Process
Parsing package install arguments
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package cups-lpd.i386 1:1.2.4-11.18.el5 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: cups = 1:1.2.4 for package: cups-lpd
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
1:cups-lpd-1.2.4-11.18.el5.i386 from base has depsolving problems
   --> Missing Dependency: cups = 1:1.2.4 is needed by package 
1:cups-lpd-1.2.4-11.18.el5.i386 (base)
Failed to install cups-lpd.   Abort!



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Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.3 - NetworkManager applet

2009-04-02 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> So far I have upgraded 2 test laptops (no big servers or this, my main 
> laptop).
> 
> I am running from local repos.  The OS repo is from downloading the isos 
> and extracting them.  The Update repo I get with an rsync command.
> 
> On both laptops, the update ends with a dialog panel (oh, I am using gnome):
> 
> The NetworkManager applet caould not find some required resources.  It 
> cannot continue.

Probably a problem with an update to wpa_supplicant not being pulled in. See
the release notes.

Ralph

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[CentOS] CMAN: Cluster membership rejected

2009-04-02 Thread FM
Hello,
Several machine cannot joint the cluster after a reboot.
Here is a example of the error :

caserta kernel: CMAN: Join request from como.dmz.lexum.pri rejected,
node ID 3 already in use by ancona.dmz.lexum.pri

All cluster.conf are the same (checked with md5sum)

I googled this but did find nothing

Any ideas?

tx

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Re: [CentOS] EXT4 root fails for kickstart

2009-04-02 Thread Scott Silva
on 4-2-2009 11:16 AM James A. Peltier spake the following:
> Hi All,
> 
> For those testing EXT4 I seem to have found an issue with anaconda where 
> by if you specify EXT4 fstype in your kickstart file it will not install 
> and complains that if needs another 250MB of disk space.  I've tried with 
> my kickstart set for 10G for root at ext3 and it works fine.  10,15 and 
> 20GB with EXT4 all fail.
> 
> BTW: can't put /boot on it either.
> 
> Just a heads up for all. ;)
> 
> 
Isn't ext4 renamed to ext4dev in the preview? Or is that just the userspace
tools? Just a guess.





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Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.3 - NetworkManager applet

2009-04-02 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
> Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>   
>> So far I have upgraded 2 test laptops (no big servers or this, my main 
>> laptop).
>>
>> I am running from local repos.  The OS repo is from downloading the isos 
>> and extracting them.  The Update repo I get with an rsync command.
>>
>> On both laptops, the update ends with a dialog panel (oh, I am using gnome):
>>
>> The NetworkManager applet caould not find some required resources.  It 
>> cannot continue.
>> 
>
> Probably a problem with an update to wpa_supplicant not being pulled in. See
> the release notes.

Thanks for the pointer.  I will read them again.  But this time I know 
what to focus on!


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Re: [CentOS] 5.3 Update Success

2009-04-02 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 02 April 2009 19:50, Paul Heinlein wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Tim Nelson wrote:
> > So, I just wanted to say 'Thank You' to all those who put in such
> > hard work into the CentOS project. The time between releases was not
> > a problem here. If it was, I guess I'd just ask for a refund. :-)
>
> I agree. I've only updated one server so far (the backup server, which
> is completely subservient to my will -- unlike development servers
> with real live users who might complain), but it went very smoothly.
> Thank you very, very much!

+1

Best, :-)
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Re: [CentOS] Don't forget to use torrents for your downloads!

2009-04-02 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 02 April 2009 18:53, Karanbir Singh wrote:
> John R Pierce wrote:
> >> here is a bit more trivia for those interested: the 4 main 'seeds' that
> >> came up were each running with 100mbps open uplinks. Atleast one person
> >> in the early stages was running at 200 odd mbps.
> >
> > geez, makes me wonder if I should even bother to leave mine running with
> > a 50kbyte/sec uplink ca (thats about 500kbps)...
>
> If you can - you should. The costs of running those torrents at 100mbps
> is way too high to run over any sustained period of time ( and they are
> all offline now ). So once the first rush has spread out - the whole
> user experience is totally driven by the other users part of the deluge.
>
> Normally, I'd keep 1 machine running from within .centos.org to make
> sure there was always atleast 1 seed for each of the torrents. And that
> machine runs only at 10mbps, for all the torrents and is also a part of
> other services within centos.org

Aren't these speeds a relative notion, ie. dependent on where you are as a 
peer?

I mean, I have a 100Mbps link to my local LAN, which is connected via a 2Gbps 
optical cables to my national center, which in turn has several uplinks of 
various bandwidth (from 32Mbps to 10Gbps) connected to surrounding countries. 
>From there on I don't know. So how can I be sure that for example someone on 
the other side of the planet can utilize my whole bandwidth?

Of course, we can initiate some peer-to-peer data transfer and measure the 
actual speed, but isn't the terminology "100Mbps to outside world" a little 
bit undefined in general? Because not all parts of "outside world" may always 
have greater bandwidth than my uplink?

Is there maybe some web site with a planet-wide topology of the internet, 
along with actual bandwidths of all the links, so one can estimate the 
transfer speed between two arbitrary points on the globe?

FWIW, tommorow I'll use torrent to download the dvd iso's for CentOS 5.3 
(32bit and 64bit archs), and I can leave them seeded 24/7 for an undefinite 
time in the future, cca 3 years at least, or maybe untill 5.4 appears. If 
anyone can pull 100Mbps from me, I'll be glad to help the community. It's 
only that I am not so sure that it is well defined to say "I have an 100Mbps 
uplink". Uplink to my nearest neighbor, yes, but further than that...

Best, :-)
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[CentOS] filesystem rpm fails when /home is NFS mounted

2009-04-02 Thread R P Herrold
On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Paul Heinlein wrote:

> I don't know if it's a bug or a feature, but the
> filesystem-2.4.0-2.el5.centos rpm won't upgrade cleanly if /home is an
> NFS filesystem.

I confirm this is present in 5.3 where /home is an NFS mount, 
and that I missed it in testing.  A workaround is:

1. Boot into single user node.
2. run: /sbin/service network start
3. run: yum -y update filesystem

If your system emitted the warning, but did not 'bail', it is 
safe to retieve the rpm locally, and to run:

# rpm -Uvh filesystem*rpm --force

as there are no scripts in play:

[herr...@centos-5 ~]$ sudo rpm -q --scripts filesystem
[herr...@centos-5 ~]$

The cause is the NFS root_squash being in effect when a NFS 
overmount is on a mountpoint, it seems.  /home happens to 
express it

It seems Paul and I are the last two users of NFS mounted 
/home left.

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Re: [CentOS] filesystem rpm fails when /home is NFS mounted

2009-04-02 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, R P Herrold wrote:

> It seems Paul and I are the last two users of NFS mounted /home 
> left.

Say it ain't so!

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[CentOS] [OT] Godaddy hell...

2009-04-02 Thread Jason Pyeron
Can I get some recommendations:

We are looking for a hosting provider (other than godaddy) with  

1: SLA
2: SSH access
3: subversion/rsync or the ability to install binaries / compile source.

Would like them to include http/https and email.

Any suggestions? 

-Jason 

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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Godaddy hell...

2009-04-02 Thread John Plemons
Try network solutions...

john



Jason Pyeron wrote:
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>
> We are looking for a hosting provider (other than godaddy) with  
>
> 1: SLA
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>
> Would like them to include http/https and email.
>
> Any suggestions? 
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> -Jason 
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Re: [CentOS] filesystem rpm fails when /home is NFS mounted

2009-04-02 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 02 April 2009 21:40:59 R P Herrold wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Paul Heinlein wrote:
> > I don't know if it's a bug or a feature, but the
> > filesystem-2.4.0-2.el5.centos rpm won't upgrade cleanly if /home is an
> > NFS filesystem.
>
> I confirm this is present in 5.3 where /home is an NFS mount,
> and that I missed it in testing.  A workaround is:
>
> 1. Boot into single user node.
> 2. run: /sbin/service network start
> 3. run: yum -y update filesystem
>
> If your system emitted the warning, but did not 'bail', it is
> safe to retieve the rpm locally, and to run:
>
> # rpm -Uvh filesystem*rpm --force
>
> as there are no scripts in play:
>
> [herr...@centos-5 ~]$ sudo rpm -q --scripts filesystem
> [herr...@centos-5 ~]$
>
> The cause is the NFS root_squash being in effect when a NFS
> overmount is on a mountpoint, it seems.  /home happens to
> express it
>
> It seems Paul and I are the last two users of NFS mounted
> /home left.
>
I have /home exported and ran the upgrade from this laptop over the network, 
where that directory is mounted and displayed in a folderview under KDE4.  I 
had no problems whatsoever.  Is this the sort of situation you mean?

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Re: [CentOS] filesystem rpm fails when /home is NFS mounted

2009-04-02 Thread Olaf Mueller
Paul Heinlein wrote:

> I don't know if it's a bug or a feature, but the
> filesystem-2.4.0-2.el5.centos rpm won't upgrade cleanly if /home is an
> NFS filesystem.
No problem here, /home is exported as nfs4 with sec=kerb5.


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Re: [CentOS] filesystem rpm fails when /home is NFS mounted

2009-04-02 Thread Hywel Richards
Paul Heinlein wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, R P Herrold wrote:
>
>   
>> It seems Paul and I are the last two users of NFS mounted /home 
>> left.
>> 
>
> Say it ain't so!
>
>   

It ain't so.

I've got 7 machines here with NFSed /home (and the same problem with the 
filesystem rpm).

Should I implement the workaround suggested by Russ for each machine, or 
will a fixed rpm come along eventually? (I'm not impatient!)

Hywel.

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Re: [CentOS] Don't forget to use torrents for your downloads!

2009-04-02 Thread Les Mikesell
Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> On Thursday 02 April 2009 18:53, Karanbir Singh wrote:
>> John R Pierce wrote:
 here is a bit more trivia for those interested: the 4 main 'seeds' that
 came up were each running with 100mbps open uplinks. Atleast one person
 in the early stages was running at 200 odd mbps.
>>> geez, makes me wonder if I should even bother to leave mine running with
>>> a 50kbyte/sec uplink ca (thats about 500kbps)...
>> If you can - you should. The costs of running those torrents at 100mbps
>> is way too high to run over any sustained period of time ( and they are
>> all offline now ). So once the first rush has spread out - the whole
>> user experience is totally driven by the other users part of the deluge.
>>
>> Normally, I'd keep 1 machine running from within .centos.org to make
>> sure there was always atleast 1 seed for each of the torrents. And that
>> machine runs only at 10mbps, for all the torrents and is also a part of
>> other services within centos.org
> 
> Aren't these speeds a relative notion, ie. dependent on where you are as a 
> peer?
> 
> I mean, I have a 100Mbps link to my local LAN, which is connected via a 2Gbps 
> optical cables to my national center, which in turn has several uplinks of 
> various bandwidth (from 32Mbps to 10Gbps) connected to surrounding countries. 
>>From there on I don't know. So how can I be sure that for example someone on 
> the other side of the planet can utilize my whole bandwidth?
> 
> Of course, we can initiate some peer-to-peer data transfer and measure the 
> actual speed, but isn't the terminology "100Mbps to outside world" a little 
> bit undefined in general? Because not all parts of "outside world" may always 
> have greater bandwidth than my uplink?
> 
> Is there maybe some web site with a planet-wide topology of the internet, 
> along with actual bandwidths of all the links, so one can estimate the 
> transfer speed between two arbitrary points on the globe?
> 
> FWIW, tommorow I'll use torrent to download the dvd iso's for CentOS 5.3 
> (32bit and 64bit archs), and I can leave them seeded 24/7 for an undefinite 
> time in the future, cca 3 years at least, or maybe untill 5.4 appears. If 
> anyone can pull 100Mbps from me, I'll be glad to help the community. It's 
> only that I am not so sure that it is well defined to say "I have an 100Mbps 
> uplink". Uplink to my nearest neighbor, yes, but further than that...

The ISP's that sell you your uplink are supposed to take care of 
actually having sufficient bandwidth to their peers.

http://www.internettrafficreport.com/main.htm

http://www.internettrafficreport.com/7day.htm

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Re: [CentOS] Don't forget to use torrents for your downloads!

2009-04-02 Thread Karanbir Singh
Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> Aren't these speeds a relative notion, ie. dependent on where you are as a 
> peer?

yes, which is why I said all these machines were locaed inside hosting 
DC's - which normally have good connectivity. One on the East coast US, 
one on the West Coast, one in Germany, one in London and the rest coming 
on at diff places.

What makes a major difference however is when there are a lot of people, 
even with lesser speeds, seeding at the same time.

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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Godaddy hell...

2009-04-02 Thread Jason Pyeron
 

> -Original Message-
> From: centos-boun...@centos.org 
> [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of John Plemons
> Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 16:58
> To: CentOS mailing list
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] [OT] Godaddy hell...
> 
> Try network solutions...


No ssh

> 
> john
> 
> 
> 
> Jason Pyeron wrote:
> > Can I get some recommendations:
> >
> > We are looking for a hosting provider (other than godaddy) with
> >
> > 1: SLA
> > 2: SSH access
> > 3: subversion/rsync or the ability to install binaries / 
> compile source.
> >
> > Would like them to include http/https and email.
> >
> > Any suggestions? 
> >
> > -Jason
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Re: [CentOS] filesystem rpm fails when /home is NFS mounted

2009-04-02 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Hywel Richards wrote:

>>> It seems Paul and I are the last two users of NFS mounted /home
>>> left.
>>
>> Say it ain't so!
>
> It ain't so.

:-)

> I've got 7 machines here with NFSed /home (and the same problem with 
> the filesystem rpm).
>
> Should I implement the workaround suggested by Russ for each 
> machine, or will a fixed rpm come along eventually? (I'm not 
> impatient!)

I just kicked everyone off, killed all apps with open file descriptors 
on /home, umounted /home, upgraded the rpm, then re-mounted /home. 
That worked just fine.

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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Godaddy hell...

2009-04-02 Thread John R Pierce
Jason Pyeron wrote:
> Can I get some recommendations:
>
> We are looking for a hosting provider (other than godaddy) with  
>   

godaddy is a registrar, not a hosting service.they pretend to be the 
latter, but seriously...


i'd be looking for someone providing either VPS or dedicated servers.  
you get root, you get to configure.  lots and lots of choices.


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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Godaddy hell...

2009-04-02 Thread Mark Belanger
Jason Pyeron wrote:
> Can I get some recommendations:
> 
> We are looking for a hosting provider (other than godaddy) with  
> 
> 1: SLA
> 2: SSH access
> 3: subversion/rsync or the ability to install binaries / compile source.

I've been very happy with http://www.bluehost.com
They offer ssh, rsync, SSL, and seem to have a compiler installed.  Very
responsive service.  I've been using them for 15 months without a
single complaint of problem.

I have no affiliation with this company - just a client.
 > Would like them to include http/https and email.

Not sure about https - but I think so.  Email support includes
IMAP, POP and web via squirrel mail.

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Re: [CentOS] Don't forget to use torrents for your downloads!

2009-04-02 Thread William L. Maltby

On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 22:19 +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote:
> Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> > Aren't these speeds a relative notion, ie. dependent on where you are as a 
> > peer?
> 
> yes, which is why I said all these machines were locaed inside hosting 
> DC's - which normally have good connectivity. One on the East coast US, 
> one on the West Coast, one in Germany, one in London and the rest coming 
> on at diff places.
> 
> What makes a major difference however is when there are a lot of people, 
> even with lesser speeds, seeding at the same time.

Thinking of analogies, if one person throws a small stone at you, maybe
you get a small bruise at worst. If a thousand do it at the same time
you *die*, likely.

That is to say, thousands throwing packets your way all at once tend to
negate a single-point bottleneck existing between you and any specific
source off your ISPs network, if they tend to come from all different
directions (different remote networks). 'Course if you live on a nasty
cable provider (we'll leave them unnamed here) who feels it right to
throttle you based on various usage statistics, you may only get hit by
a few stones at once.

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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Godaddy hell...

2009-04-02 Thread Clint Dilks
Jason Pyeron wrote:
> Can I get some recommendations:
>
> We are looking for a hosting provider (other than godaddy) with  
>
> 1: SLA
> 2: SSH access
> 3: subversion/rsync or the ability to install binaries / compile source.
>
> Would like them to include http/https and email.
>
> Any suggestions? 
>
> -Jason 
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Hi Jason,

Check out http://rimuhosting.com/ I know they have good support staff 
and are flexible in the support they provide.

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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Godaddy hell...

2009-04-02 Thread Michael A. Peters
John R Pierce wrote:
> Jason Pyeron wrote:
>> Can I get some recommendations:
>>
>> We are looking for a hosting provider (other than godaddy) with  
>>   
> 
> godaddy is a registrar, not a hosting service.they pretend to be the 
> latter, but seriously...
> 
> 
> i'd be looking for someone providing either VPS or dedicated servers.  
> you get root, you get to configure.  lots and lots of choices.

I'm currently using linode.
I have CentOS running in a xen there.

My site is small low traffic, I can't vouch for how well it works in 
high traffic sites, but it is really nice to have full control.

You probably will have some updating to do - the only CentOS image 
available when I signed up was 5.0 but it yum updates no problem.
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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Godaddy hell...

2009-04-02 Thread Robert Heller
At Thu, 2 Apr 2009 17:21:39 -0400 CentOS mailing list  wrote:

> 
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> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: centos-boun...@centos.org 
> > [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of John Plemons
> > Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 16:58
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> > Subject: Re: [CentOS] [OT] Godaddy hell...
> > 
> > Try network solutions...
> 
> 
> No ssh

TekTonic provides Virtual Servers running CentOS.  SSH is installed. 
You can install any addition stuff, including -devel packages, etc.

www.tektonic.net

Starting at $28/month (20gig disk, 512Meg RAM).

> 
> > 
> > john
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Jason Pyeron wrote:
> > > Can I get some recommendations:
> > >
> > > We are looking for a hosting provider (other than godaddy) with
> > >
> > > 1: SLA
> > > 2: SSH access
> > > 3: subversion/rsync or the ability to install binaries / 
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> > >
> > > Would like them to include http/https and email.
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> > >
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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Godaddy hell...

2009-04-02 Thread Rick
In article <49d526bf.7020...@mavin.com>,
John Plemons   wrote:

>Try network solutions...

I've never found them to be a good solution. There are plenty
around that are a lot better!

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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Godaddy hell...

2009-04-02 Thread Michel Daggelinckx
John R Pierce wrote:
> Jason Pyeron wrote:
>   
>> Can I get some recommendations:
>>
>> We are looking for a hosting provider (other than godaddy) with  
>>   
>> 
>
> godaddy is a registrar, not a hosting service.they pretend to be the 
> latter, but seriously...
>
>
> i'd be looking for someone providing either VPS or dedicated servers.  
> you get root, you get to configure.  lots and lots of choices.
>
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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Godaddy hell...

2009-04-02 Thread Karanbir Singh
Jason Pyeron wrote:
> Can I get some recommendations:
> 
> We are looking for a hosting provider (other than godaddy) with  
> 
> 1: SLA
> 2: SSH access
> 3: subversion/rsync or the ability to install binaries / compile source.
> 
> Would like them to include http/https and email.
> 
> Any suggestions? 

now is a good time to point out that given X number of hosting 
companies, the ones that support centos directly are better than the 
ones that dont :) and you can find a list of a few of these people who 
directly support CentOS at http://www.centos.org/mirrors

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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Godaddy hell...

2009-04-02 Thread James A. Peltier
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Jason Pyeron wrote:

> Can I get some recommendations:
>
> We are looking for a hosting provider (other than godaddy) with
>
> 1: SLA
> 2: SSH access
> 3: subversion/rsync or the ability to install binaries / compile source.
>
> Would like them to include http/https and email.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> -Jason

I use WebFaction

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Re: [CentOS] filesystem rpm fails when /home is NFS mounted

2009-04-02 Thread Scott Silva
on 4-2-2009 2:00 PM Anne Wilson spake the following:
> On Thursday 02 April 2009 21:40:59 R P Herrold wrote:
>> On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Paul Heinlein wrote:
>>> I don't know if it's a bug or a feature, but the
>>> filesystem-2.4.0-2.el5.centos rpm won't upgrade cleanly if /home is an
>>> NFS filesystem.
>> I confirm this is present in 5.3 where /home is an NFS mount,
>> and that I missed it in testing.  A workaround is:
>>
>> 1. Boot into single user node.
>> 2. run: /sbin/service network start
>> 3. run: yum -y update filesystem
>>
>> If your system emitted the warning, but did not 'bail', it is
>> safe to retieve the rpm locally, and to run:
>>
>> # rpm -Uvh filesystem*rpm --force
>>
>> as there are no scripts in play:
>>
>> [herr...@centos-5 ~]$ sudo rpm -q --scripts filesystem
>> [herr...@centos-5 ~]$
>>
>> The cause is the NFS root_squash being in effect when a NFS
>> overmount is on a mountpoint, it seems.  /home happens to
>> express it
>>
>> It seems Paul and I are the last two users of NFS mounted
>> /home left.
>>
> I have /home exported and ran the upgrade from this laptop over the network, 
> where that directory is mounted and displayed in a folderview under KDE4.  I 
> had no problems whatsoever.  Is this the sort of situation you mean?
> 
> Anne

The way I read it was their /home was mounted on NFS, not just exported.



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Re: [CentOS] Upgrade

2009-04-02 Thread Rick
In article ,
Hakan Koseoglu   wrote:

>yum clean all && yum ugrade  seems to fix my problem.

I had problems on two systems (both problems different) and doing
"yum clean all" fixed them. Not sure why but I'm sure glad it
worked. ;)

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Re: [CentOS] Don't forget to use torrents for your downloads!

2009-04-02 Thread Scott Silva
on 4-2-2009 1:36 PM Marko Vojinovic spake the following:
> On Thursday 02 April 2009 18:53, Karanbir Singh wrote:
>> John R Pierce wrote:
 here is a bit more trivia for those interested: the 4 main 'seeds' that
 came up were each running with 100mbps open uplinks. Atleast one person
 in the early stages was running at 200 odd mbps.
>>> geez, makes me wonder if I should even bother to leave mine running with
>>> a 50kbyte/sec uplink ca (thats about 500kbps)...
>> If you can - you should. The costs of running those torrents at 100mbps
>> is way too high to run over any sustained period of time ( and they are
>> all offline now ). So once the first rush has spread out - the whole
>> user experience is totally driven by the other users part of the deluge.
>>
>> Normally, I'd keep 1 machine running from within .centos.org to make
>> sure there was always atleast 1 seed for each of the torrents. And that
>> machine runs only at 10mbps, for all the torrents and is also a part of
>> other services within centos.org
> 
> Aren't these speeds a relative notion, ie. dependent on where you are as a 
> peer?
> 
> I mean, I have a 100Mbps link to my local LAN, which is connected via a 2Gbps 
> optical cables to my national center, which in turn has several uplinks of 
> various bandwidth (from 32Mbps to 10Gbps) connected to surrounding countries. 
>>From there on I don't know. So how can I be sure that for example someone on 
> the other side of the planet can utilize my whole bandwidth?
> 
> Of course, we can initiate some peer-to-peer data transfer and measure the 
> actual speed, but isn't the terminology "100Mbps to outside world" a little 
> bit undefined in general? Because not all parts of "outside world" may always 
> have greater bandwidth than my uplink?
> 
> Is there maybe some web site with a planet-wide topology of the internet, 
> along with actual bandwidths of all the links, so one can estimate the 
> transfer speed between two arbitrary points on the globe?
> 
> FWIW, tommorow I'll use torrent to download the dvd iso's for CentOS 5.3 
> (32bit and 64bit archs), and I can leave them seeded 24/7 for an undefinite 
> time in the future, cca 3 years at least, or maybe untill 5.4 appears. If 
> anyone can pull 100Mbps from me, I'll be glad to help the community. It's 
> only that I am not so sure that it is well defined to say "I have an 100Mbps 
> uplink". Uplink to my nearest neighbor, yes, but further than that...
> 
> Best, :-)
> Marko
But with bittorrent, one person doesn't use all of your bandwidth. Hundreds of
users are each using a small percentage of it. So if you have 100 peers
accessing 100 different slices of the torrent at 1 mb each, there goes the
whole 100 mb.



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Re: [CentOS] Latest updates break b43 wireless [RESOLVED]

2009-04-02 Thread Terry Polzin
On Wednesday April 1 2009, Terry Polzin wrote:
> Can't connect to network even with no security.  Is this possibly a
> firmware issue?


It would appear that wpa_supplicant has a new option (-u) to enable 
functionality with NetworkManager.  I found it in 
the /etc/sysconfig/wpa_supplicant.rpmnew file


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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Godaddy hell...

2009-04-02 Thread Thomas Dukes
 

> -Original Message-
> From: centos-boun...@centos.org 
> [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Jason Pyeron
> Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 4:55 PM
> To: 'CentOS mailing list'
> Subject: [CentOS] [OT] Godaddy hell...
> 
> Can I get some recommendations:
> 
> We are looking for a hosting provider (other than godaddy) with  
> 
> 1: SLA
> 2: SSH access
> 3: subversion/rsync or the ability to install binaries / 
> compile source.
> 
> Would like them to include http/https and email.
> 
> Any suggestions? 
> 
> -Jason 

I have used godaddy for hosting my e-commerce site for years.  You probably
need to go with one of their shared servers or dedicated servers.  You won't
get what you need in a hosting plan.

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Re: [CentOS] Update for 5.3 failed on subversion and gstreamer-plugins-good

2009-04-02 Thread Ron Blizzard
2009/4/2 Ralph Angenendt >

>
> Why should we list rpmforge packages in the Release Notes? exclude
> subversion from base if you want to use the one from rpmforge because it
> is newer - and remove gstreamer-plugins-bad, because it shares some
> files with gstreamer-plugins-good from from the base repository.
>

That  was my only issue with on my laptop upgrade. All I did was...

# yum remove gstreamer-plugins-bad

...and then re-ran the upgrade.

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Re: [CentOS] Don't forget to use torrents for your downloads!

2009-04-02 Thread Robert Spangler
On Wednesday 01 April 2009 21:26, William L. Maltby wrote:

>  If your torrent has distributed hash table capability, I suggest that
>  you also use that feature.
>
>  Happy sharing!

So what is everyone using for their torrent?
What is the best?


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Re: [CentOS] 5.3 Update Success

2009-04-02 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Tim Nelson  wrote:

> Greetings CentOS Team-
>
> Since the list tends to be filled with "things don't work" and "why did you
> do it this way" and "complaint X", I thought I'd make a small deviation...
>
> I have a production system running on a Dell Poweredge 2650 server. I
> simply ran 'yum update' and rebooted with no problems. Everything continues
> to work as rock solid as before.
>
> So, I just wanted to say 'Thank You' to all those who put in such hard work
> into the CentOS project. The time between releases was not a problem here.
> If it was, I guess I'd just ask for a refund. :-)
>
> --Tim
>

Had I yum updated on my desktop computer I believe everything would have
been fine (as it was on my laptop). But I tried the Update path from the DVD
first, without doing any preparation or reading and, though it booted fine,
a lot of my programs failed -- even Firefox until I ran yum update.
Fortunately I had backed everything up -- and I had a couple issues that
made a clean install a good idea anyhow. The clean install went flawlessly.

Only thing... I tried to like the new wallpaper, but eventually Googled and
found the old version. I just like the plain CentOS 5 wallpaper better.
(Yeah, I'm bland.)

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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Godaddy hell...

2009-04-02 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Karanbir Singh  wrote:
> Jason Pyeron wrote:
>> Can I get some recommendations:
>> We are looking for a hosting provider (other than godaddy) with
>> 1: SLA
>> 2: SSH access
>> 3: subversion/rsync or the ability to install binaries / compile source.
>> Would like them to include http/https and email.
>> Any suggestions?
>
> now is a good time to point out that given X number of hosting
> companies, the ones that support centos directly are better than the
> ones that dont :) and you can find a list of a few of these people who
> directly support CentOS at http://www.centos.org/mirrors

I strongly agree with  Karanbir that it would be preferable to be on a
Server with CentOS. Both of my sites are on Shared servers at OLM. You
can also look on   and get a lot of
information in the forums. At least one person on this list has a
Dedicated server at OLM and is happy with it. As I write this, I can't
remember his name.
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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Godaddy hell...

2009-04-02 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Jason Pyeron  wrote:

> Can I get some recommendations:
>
> We are looking for a hosting provider (other than godaddy) with
>
> 1: SLA
> 2: SSH access
> 3: subversion/rsync or the ability to install binaries / compile source.
>
> Would like them to include http/https and email.
>
> Any suggestions?
>

You can check out 000Webhost (www.000webhost.com)

I don't know if they have everything you need, but they do provide SSH
access with their Premium (paid) service ($4.84 a month). I've signed up for
their free hosting and it works well, I can't vouch for their paid service.

One that my brother and I have used for a long time is 34SP (www.34sp.com).
They started in the United States but moved to England, but have great
service. They specifically mention rsynch in their business plan, but
there's no specific mention of ssh -- so you would have to ask. (Again, our
needs are more of the hobbyist type.)

We had some issue with GoDaddy, can't remember exactly what it was now (I
think they wanted more control), so we went with Dotster via ZoneEdit (
www.ZoneEdit.com). ZoneEdit is a nice tool -- gives you more control over
your domain name -- and free for small "hobbyist" web builders.

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Re: [CentOS] OT: Torrent software choice

2009-04-02 Thread Spiro Harvey
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 18:41:33 -0400
Robert Spangler  wrote:
> So what is everyone using for their torrent?
> What is the best?

amusing. There is no such thing as the "best", only the best fit to your
needs.

For a start, what front end do you want? gnome, kde, tcl, cli, cli with
curses, web based? Do you want it to disappear in your system tray? do
you want to feed it into screen so you can log back into it at work and
review its status? do you want to have the status pasted in a section
of conky?

Anybody who tells you what is "best" is just telling you their
favourite, which is almost always useless information. 


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Re: [CentOS] OT: Torrent software choice

2009-04-02 Thread Rick
In article <20090403123544.71991...@sod.off.knossos.net.nz>,
Spiro Harvey   wrote:

>amusing. There is no such thing as the "best", only the best fit to your
>needs.

There's no need to be so pedantic. He's just asking for advise
about what clients are good.

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Re: [CentOS] Don't forget to use torrents for your downloads!

2009-04-02 Thread Karanbir Singh
Robert Spangler wrote:
> So what is everyone using for their torrent?
> What is the best?

(rtorrent) ftw!

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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Godaddy hell...

2009-04-02 Thread NiftyClusters T Mitchell
2009/4/2 Ron Blizzard :
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Jason Pyeron  wrote:
>>
>> Can I get some recommendations


Check with dreamhost.com.



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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Godaddy hell...

2009-04-02 Thread Scott Silva
on 4-2-2009 1:54 PM Jason Pyeron spake the following:
> Can I get some recommendations:
> 
> We are looking for a hosting provider (other than godaddy) with  
> 
> 1: SLA
> 2: SSH access
> 3: subversion/rsync or the ability to install binaries / compile source.
> 
> Would like them to include http/https and email.
> 
Have a look at the hosting providers that sponsor CentOS. After all they are
part of the reason CentOS is so good!

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Re: [CentOS] OT: Torrent software choice

2009-04-02 Thread Michael A. Peters
Spiro Harvey wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 18:41:33 -0400
> Robert Spangler  wrote:
>> So what is everyone using for their torrent?
>> What is the best?
> 
> amusing. There is no such thing as the "best", only the best fit to your
> needs.
> 
> For a start, what front end do you want? gnome, kde, tcl, cli, cli with
> curses, web based? Do you want it to disappear in your system tray? do
> you want to feed it into screen so you can log back into it at work and
> review its status? do you want to have the status pasted in a section
> of conky?
> 
> Anybody who tells you what is "best" is just telling you their
> favourite, which is almost always useless information. 

I use the standard torrent client in EPEL via a shell script.

mkdir /src/torrent/{active,nonactive}

(owned by my standard user)

this shell script in ~/bin

#!/bin/bash
# ~/bin/bt.sh
[ -f /tmp/lock_bt ] && exit 0
[ -f ~/lock_bt ] && exit 0
running="`/bin/ps aux |/bin/grep launchmany |/bin/grep "python" |wc -l`"
if [ $running -lt 1 ]; then
pushd /srv/torrent > /dev/null 2>&1
/bin/date >> date.log
nohup /usr/bin/launchmany-console active/ > torrent.log &
popd > /dev/null 2>&1
fi

-=-
Then I have this in my crontab:

02,07,12,17,22,27,32,37,42,45,47,52,57 * * * * sh /home/mpeters/bin/bt.sh

Every 5 minutes it runs - and does nothing if already running.
When I want to start a new torrent - I just throw the torrent in 
/srv/torrent/active/

When I no longer want to run that torrent - I move the .torrent file 
into /srv/torrent/nonactive

Works well except there seems to be a memory leak in the EPEL torrent 
client - sometimes the system becomes sluggish and cpu usage spikes. 
Killing the client returns the system to zippy - and it automagically 
starts again within 5 minutes.

I may modify the above script to kill the client when the system load 
average is high - as that will take care of the leak problem for me and 
prevent it from running when I'm intentionally pounding the system.

Anyway - that has worked swell for me for years, other than the memory 
leak issue.

When I want to see the progress of a torrent -

tail -f /src/torrent/torrent.log

That file can get rather large, but it is wiped clean whenever the 
client is started.
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Re: [CentOS] OT: Torrent software choice

2009-04-02 Thread Robert


Spiro Harvey wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 18:41:33 -0400
> Robert Spangler  wrote:
>   
>> So what is everyone using for their torrent?
>> What is the best?
>> 
>
> amusing. There is no such thing as the "best", only the best fit to your
> needs.
>   
Absolutely true.

For a GUI, ktorrent scratches my itch. Persists indefinitely -- across 
power failures, reboots, etc.; provides many stats.
 From rpmforge:   ktorrent-2.2.1-1.el5.rf
For a curses solution, I like bittorrent-curses from the 
bittorrent-4.4.0-1.el5.rf package -- also from rpmforge.

But as Spiro pointed out, it's all a matter of personal preference.
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Re: [CentOS] Don't forget to use torrents for your downloads!

2009-04-02 Thread William L. Maltby

On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 18:41 -0400, Robert Spangler wrote:
> On Wednesday 01 April 2009 21:26, William L. Maltby wrote:
> 
> >  If your torrent has distributed hash table capability, I suggest that
> >  you also use that feature.
> >
> >  Happy sharing!
> 
> So what is everyone using for their torrent?
> What is the best?

Depends on your preferences. Being an old cli guy, I like rtorrent. I
currently have on my CentOS 4.7 box

   rtorrent-0.8.0-1.el4.rf
   libtorrent-0.12.0-1.el4.rf

from rpmforge. Be warned: on CentOS 4, libtorrent 0.12.4 did not work
properly. I would not accept keyboard input. I've posted about this to
the rpmforge list and am awaiting a reply. When I put the old one back
in, all was good.

I don't run it on my 5.2/3 box, so I can't help there.

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Re: [CentOS] filesystem rpm fails when /home is NFS mounted

2009-04-02 Thread Tsai Li Ming


Scott Silva wrote:
> on 4-2-2009 2:00 PM Anne Wilson spake the following:
>> On Thursday 02 April 2009 21:40:59 R P Herrold wrote:
>>> On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Paul Heinlein wrote:
 I don't know if it's a bug or a feature, but the
 filesystem-2.4.0-2.el5.centos rpm won't upgrade cleanly if /home is an
 NFS filesystem.
>>> I confirm this is present in 5.3 where /home is an NFS mount,
>>> and that I missed it in testing.  A workaround is:
>>>
>>> 1. Boot into single user node.
>>> 2. run: /sbin/service network start
>>> 3. run: yum -y update filesystem
>>>
>>> If your system emitted the warning, but did not 'bail', it is
>>> safe to retieve the rpm locally, and to run:
>>>
>>> # rpm -Uvh filesystem*rpm --force
>>>
>>> as there are no scripts in play:
>>>
>>> [herr...@centos-5 ~]$ sudo rpm -q --scripts filesystem
>>> [herr...@centos-5 ~]$
>>>
>>> The cause is the NFS root_squash being in effect when a NFS
>>> overmount is on a mountpoint, it seems.  /home happens to
>>> express it
>>>
>>> It seems Paul and I are the last two users of NFS mounted
>>> /home left.
>>>
>> I have /home exported and ran the upgrade from this laptop over the network, 
>> where that directory is mounted and displayed in a folderview under KDE4.  I 
>> had no problems whatsoever.  Is this the sort of situation you mean?
>>
>> Anne
> 
> The way I read it was their /home was mounted on NFS, not just exported.
> 
> 

I had a problem with /mnt or /media too with a mounted ISO. Had to 
umount the ISO before filesystem rpm can be updated. This happened when 
I yum update to RHEL 5.3 recently.


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Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.3 - NetworkManager applet

2009-04-02 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
> Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>   
>> So far I have upgraded 2 test laptops (no big servers or this, my main 
>> laptop).
>>
>> I am running from local repos.  The OS repo is from downloading the isos 
>> and extracting them.  The Update repo I get with an rsync command.
>>
>> On both laptops, the update ends with a dialog panel (oh, I am using gnome):
>>
>> The NetworkManager applet caould not find some required resources.  It 
>> cannot continue.
>> 
>
> Probably a problem with an update to wpa_supplicant not being pulled in. See
> the release notes.

The release notes talk about:

In the spec file of NetworkManager-0.7.0-3.el5
Requires: wpa_supplicant >= 0.5.7-21
should be
Requires: wpa_supplicant >= 1:0.5.7-21

But what I see being updated is:

1:0.5.10-8.el5


So at a guess, I'd say that wpa_supplicant has been updated since this 
release note, and that the spec file is still wrong.  But wpa_supplicant 
IS being updated, ergo this is just an install process error.

Thanks Ralph.


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Re: [CentOS] filesystem rpm fails when /home is NFS mounted

2009-04-02 Thread Michael A. Peters
Tsai Li Ming wrote:
> 
> Scott Silva wrote:
>> on 4-2-2009 2:00 PM Anne Wilson spake the following:
>>> On Thursday 02 April 2009 21:40:59 R P Herrold wrote:
 On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Paul Heinlein wrote:
> I don't know if it's a bug or a feature, but the
> filesystem-2.4.0-2.el5.centos rpm won't upgrade cleanly if /home is an
> NFS filesystem.
 I confirm this is present in 5.3 where /home is an NFS mount,
 and that I missed it in testing.  A workaround is:

 1. Boot into single user node.
 2. run: /sbin/service network start
 3. run: yum -y update filesystem

 If your system emitted the warning, but did not 'bail', it is
 safe to retieve the rpm locally, and to run:

 # rpm -Uvh filesystem*rpm --force

 as there are no scripts in play:

 [herr...@centos-5 ~]$ sudo rpm -q --scripts filesystem
 [herr...@centos-5 ~]$

 The cause is the NFS root_squash being in effect when a NFS
 overmount is on a mountpoint, it seems.  /home happens to
 express it

 It seems Paul and I are the last two users of NFS mounted
 /home left.

>>> I have /home exported and ran the upgrade from this laptop over the 
>>> network, 
>>> where that directory is mounted and displayed in a folderview under KDE4.  
>>> I 
>>> had no problems whatsoever.  Is this the sort of situation you mean?
>>>
>>> Anne
>> The way I read it was their /home was mounted on NFS, not just exported.
>>
>>
> 
> I had a problem with /mnt or /media too with a mounted ISO. Had to 
> umount the ISO before filesystem rpm can be updated. This happened when 
> I yum update to RHEL 5.3 recently.
> 

My guess is a scriptlet is failing - quite possibly because an SELinux 
chcon command fails in those conditions. They probably need to change 
the chcon portion of the scriptlet to add a ||: after the command so it 
doesn't bomb out.

Someone should take a look at the spec file, add the ||: after the chcon 
(or whatever it might be) and if it allow the package to update, file a 
bug report upstream so it gets fixed in rhel svn.
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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Godaddy hell...

2009-04-02 Thread Kurt Hansen
Scott Silva wrote:
> on 4-2-2009 1:54 PM Jason Pyeron spake the following:
>   
>> Can I get some recommendations:
>>
>> We are looking for a hosting provider (other than godaddy) with  
>>
>> 1: SLA
>> 2: SSH access
>> 3: subversion/rsync or the ability to install binaries / compile source.
>>
>> Would like them to include http/https and email.
>>
>> 
> Have a look at the hosting providers that sponsor CentOS. After all they are
> part of the reason CentOS is so good!
>
> http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=15
>
>   
I have personal experience with one of those though -- Superb.

Their name is a misnomer, unless it is used as an adverb describing bad.

I've had great service from liquidweb.com, but they aren't cheap.

Take care,

Kurt
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Re: [CentOS] OT: Torrent software choice

2009-04-02 Thread Linux Advocate




> 
> For a GUI, ktorrent scratches my itch. Persists indefinitely -- across 
> power failures, reboots, etc.; provides many stats.
> From rpmforge:   ktorrent-2.2.1-1.el5.rf
> For a curses solution, I like bittorrent-curses from the 
> bittorrent-4.4.0-1.el5.rf package -- also from rpmforge.


is there a cli option?



  
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Re: [CentOS] Memory vs. Display Card (solved)

2009-04-02 Thread Rick
In article ,
Luke S Crawford   wrote:

>Have you tried memtest86?  

No, but if that was the problem it wouldn't have failed the same
way each time.

I finally got some time to deal with this today. I tried several
more things and finally made it work by installing a BIOS update.

Sure feals nice to have that memory installed. ;)

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