[CentOS] Mail delivery failing with 450

2009-03-07 Thread James Pifer
I'm not sure why this started, but apparently I'm having a DNS problem.
Yesterday mail started bouncing with this error:
450 Unable to find obrien-pifer.com

I think the messages eventually get delivered, but not sure. I guess
I'll see if this one makes the list. 

I checked my domain using http://www.checkdns.net/ and it gives me a
couple warnings. One is that there's no MX record, but there is. 

I use a smarthost for sending mail. 

My DNS records are: http://www.obrien-pifer.com/mydns.txt

Anyone see any problems in my DNS records?

Thanks,
James



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Re: [CentOS] Mail delivery failing with 450

2009-03-07 Thread Mogens Kjaer
James Pifer wrote:
...
> Anyone see any problems in my DNS records?

Doesn't look right to me:

$ nslookup
 > set type=mx
 > obrien-pifer.com
Server: 127.0.0.1
Address:127.0.0.1#53

Non-authoritative answer:
*** Can't find obrien-pifer.com: No answer

Authoritative answers can be found from:
 >
$ nslookup
 > www.obrien-pifer.com
Server: 127.0.0.1
Address:127.0.0.1#53

Non-authoritative answer:
www.obrien-pifer.comcanonical name = obrien-pifer.com.
Name:   obrien-pifer.com
Address: 70.62.90.185

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Re: [CentOS] Mail delivery failing with 450

2009-03-07 Thread Louis Lagendijk
hi James
there is a MX recond for mail.obrien-pifer.com, not for
obrien-pifer.com:
bash-3.2$ dig obrien-pifer.com any

; <<>> DiG 9.5.1-P1-RedHat-9.5.1-1.P1.fc10 <<>> obrien-pifer.com any
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 10894
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 5, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 4

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;obrien-pifer.com.  IN  ANY

;; ANSWER SECTION:
obrien-pifer.com.   36647   IN  A   70.62.90.185
obrien-pifer.com.   36647   IN  NS  porky.obrien-pifer.com.
obrien-pifer.com.   36647   IN  NS  sammy.obrien-pifer.com.
obrien-pifer.com.   36647   IN  NS  ns1.obrien-pifer.com.
obrien-pifer.com.   36647   IN  NS  ns2.obrien-pifer.com.

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
obrien-pifer.com.   36647   IN  NS  ns2.obrien-pifer.com.
obrien-pifer.com.   36647   IN  NS  porky.obrien-pifer.com.
obrien-pifer.com.   36647   IN  NS  sammy.obrien-pifer.com.
obrien-pifer.com.   36647   IN  NS  ns1.obrien-pifer.com.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns1.obrien-pifer.com.   36647   IN  A   70.62.90.185
ns2.obrien-pifer.com.   36647   IN  A   70.62.90.185
porky.obrien-pifer.com. 36647   IN  A   70.62.90.185
sammy.obrien-pifer.com. 36647   IN  A   70.62.90.185

;; Query time: 3 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.159.1#53(192.168.159.1)
;; WHEN: Sat Mar  7 13:53:39 2009
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 246

bash-3.2$ dig mail.obrien-pifer.com any

; <<>> DiG 9.5.1-P1-RedHat-9.5.1-1.P1.fc10 <<>> mail.obrien-pifer.com
any
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 31815
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 4

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;mail.obrien-pifer.com. IN  ANY

;; ANSWER SECTION:
mail.obrien-pifer.com.  38400   IN  MX  1 70.62.90.185.obrien-pifer.com.

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
obrien-pifer.com.   36592   IN  NS  ns1.obrien-pifer.com.
obrien-pifer.com.   36592   IN  NS  ns2.obrien-pifer.com.
obrien-pifer.com.   36592   IN  NS  porky.obrien-pifer.com.
obrien-pifer.com.   36592   IN  NS  sammy.obrien-pifer.com.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns1.obrien-pifer.com.   36592   IN  A   70.62.90.185
ns2.obrien-pifer.com.   36592   IN  A   70.62.90.185
porky.obrien-pifer.com. 36592   IN  A   70.62.90.185
sammy.obrien-pifer.com. 36592   IN  A   70.62.90.185

;; Query time: 140 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.159.1#53(192.168.159.1)
;; WHEN: Sat Mar  7 13:54:34 2009
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 208

bash-3.2$ 

Br, Louis

On Sat, 2009-03-07 at 08:18 -0500, James Pifer wrote:
> I'm not sure why this started, but apparently I'm having a DNS problem.
> Yesterday mail started bouncing with this error:
> 450 Unable to find obrien-pifer.com
> 
> I think the messages eventually get delivered, but not sure. I guess
> I'll see if this one makes the list. 
> 
> I checked my domain using http://www.checkdns.net/ and it gives me a
> couple warnings. One is that there's no MX record, but there is. 
> 
> I use a smarthost for sending mail. 
> 
> My DNS records are: http://www.obrien-pifer.com/mydns.txt
> 
> Anyone see any problems in my DNS records?
> 
> Thanks,
> James
> 
> 
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Re: [CentOS] Mail delivery failing with 450

2009-03-07 Thread Joebstl Thomas
Hi James,

MX-records must point to A-records and not to IP adresses.
A "dig -t AXFR obrien-pifer.com @ns1.obrien-pifer.com | grep MX" returns:
mail.obrien-pifer.com.  38400   IN  MX  1 
70.62.90.185.obrien-pifer.com.

Whereas you list "mail.obrien-pifer.com.INMX1 70.62.90.185" 
in your config.

So your setup is invalid because:
- you're pointing your one and only MX record directly to an IP
- since it is interpreted as host and missing a "." at the end it's 
expanded to "70.62.90.185.obrien-pifer.com." which doesnt exist
- it's a MX record for mail.obrien-pifer.com and not obrien-pifer.com

Your whole definition of the MX record looks goofy to me, dont want to 
sound like an a.. but you better (re)read some tutorials on setting up DNS.
I really wonder if you receive the reply at all.

Regards,
Thomas


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Re: [CentOS] Creating an alternitive install CD for CentOS 5.2 (w/ patched mkinitrd)

2009-03-07 Thread Robert Heller
At Fri, 06 Mar 2009 23:31:08 +0100 CentOS mailing list  
wrote:

> 
> Robert Heller napsal(a):
> > I need to be able to install CentOS 5.2 on a machine with software RAID
> > (and LVM) setup.  I discovered (the hard way!) that there is a bug in
> > the mkinitrd package that causes it to enter an endless loop when there
> > are /dev/mapper/ devices present during the install process.  There is a
> > patch to mkinitrd, which I applied and created a new rpm for mkinitrd
> > with this patch applied.  I'd like to now create a alternitive install
> > CD, but I am not sure of the exact mkisofs command line to properly
> > create a bootable CD.
> > 
> > I am also not sure if I need to update any of the files the installer
> > uses to install the system -- is it enough to just drop the alternitive
> > mkinitrd rpm?  Do I need to rebuild any of the other files on the CD?
> > 
> 
> Robert,
> go with Revisor
> http://fs12.vsb.cz/hrb33/el5/hrb/stable/i386/repodata/repoview/revisor-0-2.0.5.2-2.el5.hrb.html
> http://fs12.vsb.cz/hrb33/el5/hrb/stable/x86_64/repodata/repoview/revisor-0-2.0.5.2-2.el5.hrb.html
> David Hrbáč

This seems overly complex for my needs.  I don't want (or need) to
rebuild all 6 of the install CDs.  I just want to *replace* one RPM on
the first CD.  I have copied the CD's directory tree to a writable file
system and replaced the rpm in question.  I now need to just make a new
ISO file and all I need is the proper command line arguments to mkisofs
to do this.  I am *NOT* creating a new distribution.  And I really don't
want to mess with a complex GUI program or edit many configuration
files.

I would also rather do this on my CentOS 4.7 system (revisor does not
seem to be available for CentOS 4 / RHEL 4).  Running it on a diskless
workstation with a read-only root file system is a total pain.  And will
become even more painful when I then have to mount a large file system
with NFS.

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Re: [CentOS] Mail delivery failing with 450

2009-03-07 Thread James Pifer
On Sat, 2009-03-07 at 14:01 +0100, Joebstl Thomas wrote:
> Hi James,
> 
> MX-records must point to A-records and not to IP adresses.
> A "dig -t AXFR obrien-pifer.com @ns1.obrien-pifer.com | grep MX" returns:
> mail.obrien-pifer.com.  38400   IN  MX  1 
> 70.62.90.185.obrien-pifer.com.
> 
> Whereas you list "mail.obrien-pifer.com.INMX1 70.62.90.185" 
> in your config.
> 
> So your setup is invalid because:
> - you're pointing your one and only MX record directly to an IP
> - since it is interpreted as host and missing a "." at the end it's 
> expanded to "70.62.90.185.obrien-pifer.com." which doesnt exist
> - it's a MX record for mail.obrien-pifer.com and not obrien-pifer.com
> 
> Your whole definition of the MX record looks goofy to me, dont want to 
> sound like an a.. but you better (re)read some tutorials on setting up DNS.
> I really wonder if you receive the reply at all.
> 
> Regards,
> Thomas


Thomas,

Can you tell me if it looks better now?

Thanks,
James

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[CentOS] Creating an alternitive install CD for CentOS 5.2 (w/ patched mkinitrd)

2009-03-07 Thread R P Herrold
On Sat, 7 Mar 2009, Robert Heller wrote:

> At Fri, 06 Mar 2009 23:31:08 +0100 CentOS mailing list  
> wrote:

>>> I am also not sure if I need to update any of the files the installer
>>> uses to install the system -- is it enough to just drop the alternitive
>>> mkinitrd rpm?  Do I need to rebuild any of the other files on the CD?

> This seems overly complex for my needs.  I don't want (or need) to
> rebuild all 6 of the install CDs.  I just want to *replace* one RPM on
> the first CD.

This is the problem with people thinking a respin is just 
shuttling files in and out, or adding a driver to a mkinitrd.

In a post process, you can easily enough 'update' the one RPM 
in question with a bit of care in choosing the EVR 
information.  Anaconda has provided for this in every CentOS 
release, and it usually suffices (adding install time drivers 
are the major exception).  One can drop in anything that may 
be scripted -- the environment can be made Turing complete.


But then, _who_ is on the hook for maintaining and supporting 
such a respin?  No intention for providing a yum archive for 
updates is stated; no attention is paid to ensure that 
'authentic' SIGNED rpms would be retrieved.  Who gets splashed 
with mud when things go wrong?


Assume there turns out to be a security hole in that package 
and it needs to be updated, or even worse worse if the 
re-spinner adds a package to drop in a "no key  required" 
'just a couple of files add-on' updates yum archive.

For the sake of analysis assume that the archive added then 
gets compromised.  Or the re-spinner loses interest, and lets 
the domain lapse, and it gets picked up by a 'blackhat'.  Or a 
DNS poisoning attack subverts resolution of the domain -- no 
signed package protection can raise the alarm.  It was 
bypassed.

As I say, the customary bypass I have seen by minimal interest 
'just change a couple of things' packagers and archives, is to 
wholly disable key checking for the archive they add.  People 
regularly offer content from their personal archives. [I 
invite a self-audit, and would welcome a report of the last 
ten mentioned, to see if they are still viable (churning out 
updates), offering ONLY signed content with a well published 
signing key fingerprint, and issuing a yum.repo.d file 
requiring the packages used to be signed.]

So continuing the thought experiment, when so altered to 
trust an additional archive, the remote machines doing update 
through cron, or yum-updatesd will trust ANYTHING, including 
malicious content, placed in that compromised archive.

Game over.

Here is the fallout: The poor end user 'knows' it was CentOS, 
because she was told by the respinner that it is 'CentOS with 
just one package replaced'.  Who gets the black eye here? 
Who bears the support load of sorting out what happened when 
the poor hurt user shows up in what she thinks is the correct 
support venue, barely able to describe her VOIP turnkey box's 
operation?

The answer is, of course, the main mother-ship CentOS project 
folks.

And it is not right that people do this to us, but it is also 
hard to stop.  Probably the only real solution is to enforce 
the CentOS trademark on the art and brand packages, and 
prohibit respins containing such (just as the upstream does).

Sad, but true.

There is a reason the core CentOS group are skittish about 
respins.  We'll have to discuss this seriously.

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Re: [CentOS] Creating an alternitive install CD for CentOS 5.2 (w/ patched mkinitrd)

2009-03-07 Thread Richard Karhuse
On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Robert Heller  wrote
>
> This seems overly complex for my needs.  I don't want (or need) to
> rebuild all 6 of the install CDs.  I just want to *replace* one RPM on
> the first CD.  I have copied the CD's directory tree to a writable file
> system and replaced the rpm in question.  I now need to just make a new
> ISO file and all I need is the proper command line arguments to mkisofs
> to do this.  I am *NOT* creating a new distribution.  And I really don't
> want to mess with a complex GUI program or edit many configuration
> files.
>
> I would also rather do this on my CentOS 4.7 system (revisor does not
> seem to be available for CentOS 4 / RHEL 4).  Running it on a diskless
> workstation with a read-only root file system is a total pain.  And will
> become even more painful when I then have to mount a large file system
> with NFS.
>

First of all, if you replace an RPM, you'll need to do createrepro.

disc_info=`head -1 $BASE/$ARCH/.discinfo`
createrepo -v --baseurl="$disc_info" -g repodata/comps.xml $ARCH

If the RPM is a "system RPM", then you probably want to do a
buildinstall first to get it into the anaconda system (and get a new
disc_info),
a la:

   $BASE/buildinstall --debug \
--version 5 --product 'CentOS' --release "CentOS 5" \
--prodpath CentOS $BASE/$ARCH 2>&1

If all you want is a mkisofs, what's wrong with the "man" command??

Maybe something like:

mkisofs -q -r -R -J -T -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -pad   \
-b isolinux/isolinux.bin -c isolinux/boot.cat -boot-info-table \
-V "$VER ($date)" \
-A "$REL - $VER - $firmware"  \
-publisher "$PUB" -p "$PUB" -x lost+found \
-o "CentOS-$VER-$date.iso" $ARCH2>&1

... reboot, lather, rinse and repeat  :-) :=)

You may find "re-generating" the CentOS CDs/DVD quite easy at
times and very frustrating and complex at others ..

HTH

   -rak-
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[CentOS] CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 49, Issue 3

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The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently
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Re: [CentOS] I have a test system that hangs hard...

2009-03-07 Thread Kay Diederichs
Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> I have a test system:  Centos 5.2 on an OQO, that has been hanging 
> hard.  I have to unplug it and pull the battery so I can then cold start it.
> 
> This last time all I did was open a terminal window and SU to root, then 
> start the lastest build of SIP Communicator (which uses JRE 1.6.0_10).  
> I was not even making a test phone call at the time.  Oh, and the system 
> only runs IPv6, no v4 addressing.
> 
> So how do I find out what is causing the hard lockups?

if the problem is triggered reproducibly by building SIP C, then just 
don't use X when starting the build; change to a console (Ctrl-Alt-F1) 
and watch out for kernel messages indicating a software (kernel) problem.

If the problem is due to hardware, there is a chance that memtest86+ 
will find bad memory. If it's a bad disk, you can check with smartctl. 
There's are burn-in programs available; I use burnCPU to put load on 
multi-core systems. Compiling the Linux kernel a hundred times in a row 
is also a good test; not a single build should fail.

HTH,

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Re: [CentOS] I have a test system that hangs hard...

2009-03-07 Thread David G. Miller
Robert Moskowitz  wrote:

See embedded comments.  I'm not familiar with the specific package mentioned 
but these are just a few standard debugging ideas.

> I have a test system:  Centos 5.2 on an OQO, that has been hanging 
> hard.  I have to unplug it and pull the battery so I can then cold start it.
>   
I assume this also means that the system runs as expected if you don't 
take any of the actions described below.
> This last time all I did was open a terminal window and SU to root, then 
> start the lastest build of SIP Communicator (which uses JRE 1.6.0_10).  
> I was not even making a test phone call at the time.
Any chance of trying an earlier version?  Especially one that uses an 
earlier JRE?
>   Oh, and the system 
> only runs IPv6, no v4 addressing.
>   
And what happens if you enable IPV4?  If possible, can SIP Communicator 
be configured to use IPV4 instead of V6?  If so, does the problem persist?
> So how do I find out what is causing the hard lockups?
>   
I'd start with enabling IPV4 addressing since it's fairly trivial to do 
and then work back toward running an earlier version of the program.  
You may find something like the JRE wants an IPV4 connection (just 
wildly speculating here).

Cheers,
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Re: [CentOS] Mail delivery failing with 450

2009-03-07 Thread Kai Schaetzl
James Pifer wrote on Sat, 07 Mar 2009 11:07:00 -0500:

> Can you tell me if it looks better now?

It's better, but still:

- as the MX is the same as your domain name you do not need an MX
- as all your hosts point to the same IP you can just use a wildcard
- as I'm sure you don't change your hosts several times a day you can up 
the TTL to a more reasonable time like 86400 (=a day)
- having four ns records all point to the same IP is just, uhm, pointless

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Re: [CentOS] Creating an alternitive install CD for CentOS 5.2 (w/ patched mkinitrd)

2009-03-07 Thread Les Mikesell
R P Herrold wrote:
>> 
> Here is the fallout: The poor end user 'knows' it was CentOS, 
> because she was told by the respinner that it is 'CentOS with 
> just one package replaced'.  Who gets the black eye here? 
> Who bears the support load of sorting out what happened when 
> the poor hurt user shows up in what she thinks is the correct 
> support venue, barely able to describe her VOIP turnkey box's 
> operation?
> 
> The answer is, of course, the main mother-ship CentOS project 
> folks.
> 
> And it is not right that people do this to us, but it is also 
> hard to stop.  Probably the only real solution is to enforce 
> the CentOS trademark on the art and brand packages, and 
> prohibit respins containing such (just as the upstream does).
> 
> Sad, but true.
> 
> There is a reason the core CentOS group are skittish about 
> respins.  We'll have to discuss this seriously.

I can see your point about the brand value you have embedded into the 
packages, but it also seems wrong to make everyone who wants to improve 
it or adapt to some additional purpose repeat all the rebranding work 
from scratch.

How hard would it be to generate an 'unbranded' drop in replacement 
package for everything specifically Centos - or a framework so others 
could share the work?  That way everyone who needed to replace a driver 
wouldn't have to repeat all this work unless they wanted to create their 
own unique brand identity.

If you think respins containing Centos branding are wrong, make it easy 
to to the right thing.

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Re: [CentOS] Creating an alternitive install CD for CentOS 5.2 (w/ patched mkinitrd)

2009-03-07 Thread Jason Pyeron
 

> -Original Message-
> From: centos-boun...@centos.org 
> [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Les Mikesell
> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 17:59
> To: CentOS mailing list
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Creating an alternitive install CD for 
> CentOS 5.2 (w/ patched mkinitrd)
> 
> R P Herrold wrote:
> >> 
> > Here is the fallout: The poor end user 'knows' it was 
> CentOS, because 
> > she was told by the respinner that it is 'CentOS with just 
> one package 
> > replaced'.  Who gets the black eye here?
> > Who bears the support load of sorting out what happened 
> when the poor 
> > hurt user shows up in what she thinks is the correct support venue, 
> > barely able to describe her VOIP turnkey box's operation?
> > 
> > The answer is, of course, the main mother-ship CentOS project folks.
> > 
> > And it is not right that people do this to us, but it is 
> also hard to 
> > stop.  Probably the only real solution is to enforce the CentOS 
> > trademark on the art and brand packages, and prohibit respins 
> > containing such (just as the upstream does).
> > 
> > Sad, but true.
> > 
> > There is a reason the core CentOS group are skittish about 
> respins.  
> > We'll have to discuss this seriously.
> 
> I can see your point about the brand value you have embedded 
> into the packages, but it also seems wrong to make everyone 
> who wants to improve it or adapt to some additional purpose 
> repeat all the rebranding work from scratch.
> 
> How hard would it be to generate an 'unbranded' drop in 
> replacement package for everything specifically Centos - or a 
> framework so others could share the work?  That way everyone 
> who needed to replace a driver wouldn't have to repeat all 
> this work unless they wanted to create their own unique brand 
> identity.

Kinky idea, I like it.

> 
> If you think respins containing Centos branding are wrong, 
> make it easy to to the right thing.
> 
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Re: [CentOS] Mail delivery failing with 450

2009-03-07 Thread Morten Torstensen
Kai Schaetzl wrote:

> - as the MX is the same as your domain name you do not need an MX

It is good to always have an MX.

> - having four ns records all point to the same IP is just, uhm, pointless

Can make it easier to separate workloads and move them to different 
servers later.

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Re: [CentOS] Mail delivery failing with 450

2009-03-07 Thread John R Pierce
Kai Schaetzl wrote:
> It's better, but still:
>
> - as the MX is the same as your domain name you do not need an MX
> - as all your hosts point to the same IP you can just use a wildcard
> - as I'm sure you don't change your hosts several times a day you can up 
> the TTL to a more reasonable time like 86400 (=a day)
> - having four ns records all point to the same IP is just, uhm, pointless
>   

worse than pointless, its ugly.  in the event your server is down and 
not responding, a lookup server will try it 4 times as many times as it 
otherwise would.

the only NS records that should be in your zone are exactly the same as 
the ones in the registrar for the domain.

$ whois obrien-pifer.com
...
   Domain Name: OBRIEN-PIFER.COM
   Registrar: WILD WEST DOMAINS, INC.
   Whois Server: whois.wildwestdomains.com
   Referral URL: http://www.wildwestdomains.com
   Name Server: NS1.OBRIEN-PIFER.COM
   Name Server: NS2.OBRIEN-PIFER.COM

   Server Name: NS1.OBRIEN-PIFER.COM
   IP Address: 70.62.90.185
   Registrar: WILD WEST DOMAINS, INC.
   Whois Server: whois.wildwestdomains.com
   Referral URL: http://www.wildwestdomains.com


   Server Name: NS2.OBRIEN-PIFER.COM
   IP Address: 70.62.90.185
   Registrar: WILD WEST DOMAINS, INC.
   Whois Server: whois.wildwestdomains.com
   Referral URL: http://www.wildwestdomains.com



I'm surprised the registrar let you register two HOST names for the same 
IP, they aren't supposed to do that.
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Re: [CentOS] Creating an alternitive install CD for CentOS 5.2 (w/ patched mkinitrd)

2009-03-07 Thread Robert Heller
At Sat, 7 Mar 2009 10:45:19 -0500 (EST) CentOS mailing list  
wrote:

> 
> On Sat, 7 Mar 2009, Robert Heller wrote:
> 
> > At Fri, 06 Mar 2009 23:31:08 +0100 CentOS mailing list  
> > wrote:
> 
> >>> I am also not sure if I need to update any of the files the installer
> >>> uses to install the system -- is it enough to just drop the alternitive
> >>> mkinitrd rpm?  Do I need to rebuild any of the other files on the CD?
> 
> > This seems overly complex for my needs.  I don't want (or need) to
> > rebuild all 6 of the install CDs.  I just want to *replace* one RPM on
> > the first CD.
> 
> This is the problem with people thinking a respin is just 
> shuttling files in and out, or adding a driver to a mkinitrd.
> 
> In a post process, you can easily enough 'update' the one RPM 
> in question with a bit of care in choosing the EVR 
> information.  Anaconda has provided for this in every CentOS 
> release, and it usually suffices (adding install time drivers 
> are the major exception).  One can drop in anything that may 
> be scripted -- the environment can be made Turing complete.

The problem is that the mkinitrd rpm that is shipped with CentOS 5.2
*go into an infinite loop* if one is installing a kernel on a system
with software raid disks.  This means that the base install process
*hangs*.  I suspect that killing the looping mkinitrd process kills
(crashes) the install.  This means it is impossible to do a base
install this way.  *This is a known problem* (check the bug database
for both RHEL5 and CentOS5 for details).

The only other option is to patch the mkinitrd script *while* the
install is in progress.  I ended up doing this when I originally
installed CentOS 5.2, but mis-typed the patch command and ended up with
a zero length file in /sbin/mkinitrd -- this did not cause the
installer to crash, it just failed to make the initrd file -- not
really a problem -- I just booted with a rescue disk and manually
re-made the initrd (and it was only a secondard O/S on my system and I
had told the installer to not install any boot loader).

> 
> 
> But then, _who_ is on the hook for maintaining and supporting 
> such a respin?  No intention for providing a yum archive for 
> updates is stated; no attention is paid to ensure that 
> 'authentic' SIGNED rpms would be retrieved.  Who gets splashed 
> with mud when things go wrong?
> 
> 
> Assume there turns out to be a security hole in that package 
> and it needs to be updated, or even worse worse if the 
> re-spinner adds a package to drop in a "no key  required" 
> 'just a couple of files add-on' updates yum archive.
> 
> For the sake of analysis assume that the archive added then 
> gets compromised.  Or the re-spinner loses interest, and lets 
> the domain lapse, and it gets picked up by a 'blackhat'.  Or a 
> DNS poisoning attack subverts resolution of the domain -- no 
> signed package protection can raise the alarm.  It was 
> bypassed.
> 
> As I say, the customary bypass I have seen by minimal interest 
> 'just change a couple of things' packagers and archives, is to 
> wholly disable key checking for the archive they add.  People 
> regularly offer content from their personal archives. [I 
> invite a self-audit, and would welcome a report of the last 
> ten mentioned, to see if they are still viable (churning out 
> updates), offering ONLY signed content with a well published 
> signing key fingerprint, and issuing a yum.repo.d file 
> requiring the packages used to be signed.]
> 
> So continuing the thought experiment, when so altered to 
> trust an additional archive, the remote machines doing update 
> through cron, or yum-updatesd will trust ANYTHING, including 
> malicious content, placed in that compromised archive.
> 
> Game over.
> 
> Here is the fallout: The poor end user 'knows' it was CentOS, 
> because she was told by the respinner that it is 'CentOS with 
> just one package replaced'.  Who gets the black eye here? 
> Who bears the support load of sorting out what happened when 
> the poor hurt user shows up in what she thinks is the correct 
> support venue, barely able to describe her VOIP turnkey box's 
> operation?
> 
> The answer is, of course, the main mother-ship CentOS project 
> folks.
> 
> And it is not right that people do this to us, but it is also 
> hard to stop.  Probably the only real solution is to enforce 
> the CentOS trademark on the art and brand packages, and 
> prohibit respins containing such (just as the upstream does).
> 
> Sad, but true.
> 
> There is a reason the core CentOS group are skittish about 
> respins.  We'll have to discuss this seriously.
> 
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Re: [CentOS] Creating an alternitive install CD for CentOS 5.2 (w/ patched mkinitrd)

2009-03-07 Thread Robert Heller
At Sat, 7 Mar 2009 10:48:29 -0500 CentOS mailing list  wrote:

> 
> On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Robert Heller  wrote
> >
> > This seems overly complex for my needs.  I don't want (or need) to
> > rebuild all 6 of the install CDs.  I just want to *replace* one RPM on
> > the first CD.  I have copied the CD's directory tree to a writable file
> > system and replaced the rpm in question.  I now need to just make a new
> > ISO file and all I need is the proper command line arguments to mkisofs
> > to do this.  I am *NOT* creating a new distribution.  And I really don't
> > want to mess with a complex GUI program or edit many configuration
> > files.
> >
> > I would also rather do this on my CentOS 4.7 system (revisor does not
> > seem to be available for CentOS 4 / RHEL 4).  Running it on a diskless
> > workstation with a read-only root file system is a total pain.  And will
> > become even more painful when I then have to mount a large file system
> > with NFS.
> >
> 
> First of all, if you replace an RPM, you'll need to do createrepro.
> 
> disc_info=`head -1 $BASE/$ARCH/.discinfo`
> createrepo -v --baseurl="$disc_info" -g repodata/comps.xml $ARCH
> 

OK, it looks like I need to do this (see below).

> If the RPM is a "system RPM", then you probably want to do a
> buildinstall first to get it into the anaconda system (and get a new
> disc_info),
> a la:
> 
>$BASE/buildinstall --debug \
>   --version 5 --product 'CentOS' --release "CentOS 5" \
>   --prodpath CentOS $BASE/$ARCH 2>&1
> 
> If all you want is a mkisofs, what's wrong with the "man" command??
> 
> Maybe something like:
> 
> mkisofs -q -r -R -J -T -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -pad   \
> -b isolinux/isolinux.bin -c isolinux/boot.cat -boot-info-table \
> -V "$VER ($date)" \
> -A "$REL - $VER - $firmware"  \
> -publisher "$PUB" -p "$PUB" -x lost+found \
> -o "CentOS-$VER-$date.iso" $ARCH  2>&1


I was unsure of the specific options above -- After installing revisor
and poked around in the source code and found what I needed, but my test
install failed -- it complained that there was a problem with mkinitrd --
could not open it or find it -- guessing I need to rebuild the repro
database. 


> 
> ... reboot, lather, rinse and repeat  :-) :=)
> 
> You may find "re-generating" the CentOS CDs/DVD quite easy at
> times and very frustrating and complex at others ..

Yeah, it appears so.  I just hope I don't have to rebuild all 6 CDs,
since I don't have the DVD nor do I have a DVD-R drive either, so doing
things with a single DVD is not an option.

> 
> HTH
> 
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Re: [CentOS] Creating an alternitive install CD for CentOS 5.2 (w/ patched mkinitrd)

2009-03-07 Thread Robert Heller
At Sat, 07 Mar 2009 11:59:02 -0600 CentOS mailing list  
wrote:

> 
> R P Herrold wrote:
> >> 
> > Here is the fallout: The poor end user 'knows' it was CentOS, 
> > because she was told by the respinner that it is 'CentOS with 
> > just one package replaced'.  Who gets the black eye here? 
> > Who bears the support load of sorting out what happened when 
> > the poor hurt user shows up in what she thinks is the correct 
> > support venue, barely able to describe her VOIP turnkey box's 
> > operation?
> > 
> > The answer is, of course, the main mother-ship CentOS project 
> > folks.
> > 
> > And it is not right that people do this to us, but it is also 
> > hard to stop.  Probably the only real solution is to enforce 
> > the CentOS trademark on the art and brand packages, and 
> > prohibit respins containing such (just as the upstream does).
> > 
> > Sad, but true.
> > 
> > There is a reason the core CentOS group are skittish about 
> > respins.  We'll have to discuss this seriously.
> 
> I can see your point about the brand value you have embedded into the 
> packages, but it also seems wrong to make everyone who wants to improve 
> it or adapt to some additional purpose repeat all the rebranding work 
> from scratch.

Or deal with a 'show stopping bug', like the known problem with
mkinitrd. I have no interest in rebranding anything or even
redistributing my 'replacement' CD (I'll probably toss the replacement
CD once I get the install done).  I just want to install CentOS on a
system with pre-existing software RAID disks -- I am migrating a server
from Ubuntu to CentOS 5 and I don't want to lose prexisting data, so
simply wiping the disks and installing on bare partitions is not an
option (and even then I'd want to use LVM for some things, and even
without RAID, LVM will also send mkinitrd off into never, never land --
basically anything the fires up /dev/mapper/... will do it: RAID, LVM,
cryptfs, all seem to do this). 

> 
> How hard would it be to generate an 'unbranded' drop in replacement 
> package for everything specifically Centos - or a framework so others 
> could share the work?  That way everyone who needed to replace a driver 
> wouldn't have to repeat all this work unless they wanted to create their 
> own unique brand identity.
> 
> If you think respins containing Centos branding are wrong, make it easy 
> to to the right thing.
> 

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Re: [CentOS] Mail delivery failing with 450

2009-03-07 Thread James Pifer
> $ whois obrien-pifer.com
> ...
>Domain Name: OBRIEN-PIFER.COM
>Registrar: WILD WEST DOMAINS, INC.
>Whois Server: whois.wildwestdomains.com
>Referral URL: http://www.wildwestdomains.com
>Name Server: NS1.OBRIEN-PIFER.COM
>Name Server: NS2.OBRIEN-PIFER.COM
> 
>Server Name: NS1.OBRIEN-PIFER.COM
>IP Address: 70.62.90.185
>Registrar: WILD WEST DOMAINS, INC.
>Whois Server: whois.wildwestdomains.com
>Referral URL: http://www.wildwestdomains.com
> 
> 
>Server Name: NS2.OBRIEN-PIFER.COM
>IP Address: 70.62.90.185
>Registrar: WILD WEST DOMAINS, INC.
>Whois Server: whois.wildwestdomains.com
>Referral URL: http://www.wildwestdomains.com
> 
> 
> 
> I'm surprised the registrar let you register two HOST names for the same 
> IP, they aren't supposed to do that.

I removed the other two NS records. I also raised the TTL as suggested. 

Thanks for all the help. 

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Re: [CentOS] Creating an alternitive install CD for CentOS 5.2 (w/ patched mkinitrd)

2009-03-07 Thread Karanbir Singh
Robert Heller wrote:
>  I don't want (or need) to
> rebuild all 6 of the install CDs.  I just want to *replace* one RPM on
> the first CD.

the installer supports external repo's - at install time. All you then 
need is to provide a new repo, with a higher EVR for mkinitrd.

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Re: [CentOS] Creating an alternitive install CD for CentOS 5.2 (w/ patched mkinitrd)

2009-03-07 Thread Robert Heller
At Sat, 07 Mar 2009 19:39:00 + CentOS mailing list  
wrote:

> 
> Robert Heller wrote:
> >  I don't want (or need) to
> > rebuild all 6 of the install CDs.  I just want to *replace* one RPM on
> > the first CD.
> 
> the installer supports external repo's - at install time. All you then 
> need is to provide a new repo, with a higher EVR for mkinitrd.

I am not sure how to do this and did not know it was possible -- there
is nothing obvious in the install menus that suggest this. I do prefer
the 'text' based install.  Also, in the case of my home system, the
external repo would *have* be on the local disk somewhere, since I don't
have any other machines available on my LAN and the the only external
Internet option is dialup.

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Re: [CentOS] Creating an alternitive install CD for CentOS 5.2 (w/ patched mkinitrd)

2009-03-07 Thread Rob Kampen

Robert Heller wrote:

At Sat, 07 Mar 2009 11:59:02 -0600 CentOS mailing list  
wrote:

  

R P Herrold wrote:

Here is the fallout: The poor end user 'knows' it was CentOS, 
because she was told by the respinner that it is 'CentOS with 
just one package replaced'.  Who gets the black eye here? 
Who bears the support load of sorting out what happened when 
the poor hurt user shows up in what she thinks is the correct 
support venue, barely able to describe her VOIP turnkey box's 
operation?


The answer is, of course, the main mother-ship CentOS project 
folks.


And it is not right that people do this to us, but it is also 
hard to stop.  Probably the only real solution is to enforce 
the CentOS trademark on the art and brand packages, and 
prohibit respins containing such (just as the upstream does).


Sad, but true.

There is a reason the core CentOS group are skittish about 
respins.  We'll have to discuss this seriously.
  
I can see your point about the brand value you have embedded into the 
packages, but it also seems wrong to make everyone who wants to improve 
it or adapt to some additional purpose repeat all the rebranding work 
from scratch.



Or deal with a 'show stopping bug', like the known problem with
mkinitrd. I have no interest in rebranding anything or even
redistributing my 'replacement' CD (I'll probably toss the replacement
CD once I get the install done).  I just want to install CentOS on a
system with pre-existing software RAID disks -- I am migrating a server
from Ubuntu to CentOS 5 and I don't want to lose prexisting data, so
simply wiping the disks and installing on bare partitions is not an
option (and even then I'd want to use LVM for some things, and even
without RAID, LVM will also send mkinitrd off into never, never land --
basically anything the fires up /dev/mapper/... will do it: RAID, LVM,
cryptfs, all seem to do this). 

  
How hard would it be to generate an 'unbranded' drop in replacement 
package for everything specifically Centos - or a framework so others 
could share the work?  That way everyone who needed to replace a driver 
wouldn't have to repeat all this work unless they wanted to create their 
own unique brand identity.


If you think respins containing Centos branding are wrong, make it easy 
to to the right thing.





  

tried nodmraid on the kernel boot line?
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Re: [CentOS] topbanel and bottompanel on gnome

2009-03-07 Thread MHR
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 6:01 AM, Jerry Geis  wrote:
>
> Or better yet how do I completely disable the top and bottom panels
> using gconftool-2?
>

Not sure about gconftool-2, but you can delete one panels by right
clicking on the panel and selecting the delete panel option.  I'm not
sure you can remove both of them altogether, and you may be stuck with
the 1 pixel line for at least one of them.

You might try asking in the gnome email list

HTH

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Re: [CentOS] Creating an alternitive install CD for CentOS 5.2 (w/ patched mkinitrd)

2009-03-07 Thread Robert Heller
At Sat, 07 Mar 2009 18:44:46 -0500 CentOS mailing list  
wrote:

> 
> 
> Robert Heller wrote:
> > At Sat, 07 Mar 2009 11:59:02 -0600 CentOS mailing list  
> > wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> R P Herrold wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Here is the fallout: The poor end user 'knows' it was CentOS, 
> >>> because she was told by the respinner that it is 'CentOS with 
> >>> just one package replaced'.  Who gets the black eye here? 
> >>> Who bears the support load of sorting out what happened when 
> >>> the poor hurt user shows up in what she thinks is the correct 
> >>> support venue, barely able to describe her VOIP turnkey box's 
> >>> operation?
> >>>
> >>> The answer is, of course, the main mother-ship CentOS project 
> >>> folks.
> >>>
> >>> And it is not right that people do this to us, but it is also 
> >>> hard to stop.  Probably the only real solution is to enforce 
> >>> the CentOS trademark on the art and brand packages, and 
> >>> prohibit respins containing such (just as the upstream does).
> >>>
> >>> Sad, but true.
> >>>
> >>> There is a reason the core CentOS group are skittish about 
> >>> respins.  We'll have to discuss this seriously.
> >>>   
> >> I can see your point about the brand value you have embedded into the 
> >> packages, but it also seems wrong to make everyone who wants to improve 
> >> it or adapt to some additional purpose repeat all the rebranding work 
> >> from scratch.
> >> 
> >
> > Or deal with a 'show stopping bug', like the known problem with
> > mkinitrd. I have no interest in rebranding anything or even
> > redistributing my 'replacement' CD (I'll probably toss the replacement
> > CD once I get the install done).  I just want to install CentOS on a
> > system with pre-existing software RAID disks -- I am migrating a server
> > from Ubuntu to CentOS 5 and I don't want to lose prexisting data, so
> > simply wiping the disks and installing on bare partitions is not an
> > option (and even then I'd want to use LVM for some things, and even
> > without RAID, LVM will also send mkinitrd off into never, never land --
> > basically anything the fires up /dev/mapper/... will do it: RAID, LVM,
> > cryptfs, all seem to do this). 
> >
> >   
> >> How hard would it be to generate an 'unbranded' drop in replacement 
> >> package for everything specifically Centos - or a framework so others 
> >> could share the work?  That way everyone who needed to replace a driver 
> >> wouldn't have to repeat all this work unless they wanted to create their 
> >> own unique brand identity.
> >>
> >> If you think respins containing Centos branding are wrong, make it easy 
> >> to to the right thing.
> >>
> >> 
> >
> >   
> tried nodmraid on the kernel boot line?

The problem is that I need to actually install on the raid arrays, so
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[CentOS] Please test kmod packages for CentOS-4

2009-03-07 Thread Akemi Yagi
Hello,

There are currently 3 kmod packages in CentOS-4 that require
re-installation upon each kernel update:

kmod-drbd
kmod-drbd82
kmod-xfs

CentOS is going to offer a kernel-independent version of these kmod
packages.  With this version, you install once, and they should
survive kernel updates.  They are in the testing repository at the
moment and need to be tested before they can be made available from
the regular place (extras repo).  Getting enough testing is important
because CentOS may not be providing kernel-specific kmod-packages any
longer.

If you have never used the testing repository, please refer to the Wiki article:

http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories

Happy testing!

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[CentOS] Memory vs. Display Card

2009-03-07 Thread Rick
Since memory has become quite cheap lately I decided to move from 2 GB
to 6. When I installed the memory every thing was fine until I went to
run level 5. At that point the screen turned to garbage and the system
froze. Is there a way to fix this so I can use the memory I bought? Do
I need a new display card?

Current hardware:

  Intel D975XBX2 Motherboard
  VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV505 [Radeon X1550 64-bit]

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Re: [CentOS] Memory vs. Display Card

2009-03-07 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Sun, Mar 08, 2009 at 03:00:59AM +, Rick wrote:
> Since memory has become quite cheap lately I decided to move from 2 GB
> to 6. When I installed the memory every thing was fine until I went to
> run level 5. At that point the screen turned to garbage and the system
> froze. Is there a way to fix this so I can use the memory I bought? Do
> I need a new display card?
> 
> Current hardware:
> 
>   Intel D975XBX2 Motherboard
>   VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV505 [Radeon X1550 64-bit]

That sounds pretty strange.  Have you confirmed that removing the "new"
memory allows you to run in runlevel 5 again?

If so, maybe you need to adjust some memory timing settings in BIOS.

Ray
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Re: [CentOS] Memory vs. Display Card

2009-03-07 Thread Luke S Crawford
Rick  writes:

> Since memory has become quite cheap lately I decided to move from 2 GB
> to 6. When I installed the memory every thing was fine until I went to
> run level 5. At that point the screen turned to garbage and the system
> froze. Is there a way to fix this so I can use the memory I bought? Do
> I need a new display card?


Have you tried memtest86?  

without a serial console, it'd be hard to see if that's the problem, 
but it is a good place to start.

Often if you have bad memory the problem doesn't show until you use something
that actually uses more of your memory (like starting the GUI)
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Re: [CentOS] Hardware compatibility IM-945GC Intel Atom Mini-ITX]

2009-03-07 Thread David Amiel
Le Lun 2 mars 2009 23:39, Jason Pyeron a écrit :
> Can this MB be used with Centos 4 (or 5)?
>
> For reference:
> http://www.logicsupply.com/products/ms_9832
>
>
> I don't think we can use this new MB since the Realtek 8111C does not seem
> to be
> supported (well)
>
> http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/8111c-nic-revision-ep45-27089-
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I'm using Cents 5 on an Intel atom D945GCLF MB which has the same network
card and it's working fine :

- with Centos 5.0, 5.1, 5.2 : you've to erase the R8169 kernel module and
manually install realtek drivers (
http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=7&PFid=7&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false#2
)

- with upcoming Centos 5.3 : nothing to do, the driver is included in the
kernel ( 2.6.18-128.1.1.el5 )

David Amiel


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[CentOS] samsung sata disk pb

2009-03-07 Thread David Amiel
Hi there,

I'm running a centos 5.2 (with a centos 5.3 kernel) on a box with a
samsung 1To green edition, and this disk looks a bit slow to me and it's
not recognized by hdparm :
# hdparm -iI /dev/sda
/dev/sda:
 HDIO_GET_IDENTITY failed: Invalid argument
 HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(identify) failed: Invalid argument

# hdparm -tT /dev/sda
/dev/sda:
 Timing cached reads:   2252 MB in  2.00 seconds = 1125.57 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads:   94 MB in  3.05 seconds =  30.81 MB/sec

I've got a samsung 640go on my desktop running ubuntu (kernel 2.6.27-11),
hdparm -iI is working and benchmark is a lot better :
$ sudo  hdparm -tT /dev/sda
/dev/sda:
 Timing cached reads:   2392 MB in  2.00 seconds = 1196.00 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads:  226 MB in  3.02 seconds =  74.81 MB/sec


the green HD is a 5400rpm, though the other one is 7400rpm, but a factor 2
in performance between them looks very strange to me.
As the green 1 To disk is not identified by hdparm I think it's not
configured properly.

Any hint to make my 1To disk flying like the other one ? :)

cheers,

David

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Re: [CentOS] samsung sata disk pb

2009-03-07 Thread John R Pierce
David Amiel wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I'm running a centos 5.2 (with a centos 5.3 kernel) on a box with a
> samsung 1To green edition, and this disk looks a bit slow to me and it's
> not recognized by hdparm
>   


more likely to be a problem with support for the specific SATA 
controller than the drive itself.



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