[CentOS] Centos 4.3 Download

[Per Qvindesland]

Hello List

Apologies but is there anyone that knows where I can download a x86_64 dvd
iso?

Regards
Per Qvindesland


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Re: [CentOS] Centos 4.3 Download

[Tom Brown]

>
> Apologies but is there anyone that knows where I can download a x86_64 dvd
> iso?
>
>   


You wont find a DVD iso for 4.3 from http as its bigger than the 
standard apache filesize limit

http://vault.centos.org/4.3/isos/i386/

Either get the CD iso's and make them into a DVD iso yourself or use the 
torrent, although not sure if there would be seeds for 4.3 now.


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Re: [CentOS] Centos 4.3 Download

[Tom Brown]

>
> http://vault.centos.org/4.3/isos/i386/
>
>   


clearly that link should be

http://vault.centos.org/4.3/isos/x86_64/
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Re: [CentOS] Centos 4.3 Download

[Per Qvindesland]

Hi 

Cheers, I decided to rather download the 4.3 server version then trying to
find a 4.3 dvd download.

Regards
Per Qvindesland
On 1/8/09 10:33 AM, "Tom Brown"  wrote:

> 
>> 
>> Apologies but is there anyone that knows where I can download a x86_64 dvd
>> iso?
>> 
>>   
> 
> 
> You wont find a DVD iso for 4.3 from http as its bigger than the
> standard apache filesize limit
> 
> http://vault.centos.org/4.3/isos/i386/
> 
> Either get the CD iso's and make them into a DVD iso yourself or use the
> torrent, although not sure if there would be seeds for 4.3 now.
> 
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Re: [CentOS] Centos 4.3 Download

[Kai Schaetzl]

Per Qvindesland wrote on Thu, 08 Jan 2009 10:24:26 +0100:

> Apologies

You would not need to apologize if you would stop hijacking other threads. 
If you send a new question then hit the "new message" button, please!

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[CentOS] DNS Issues

[Per Qvindesland]

Hello List

I am having a second thing and this time I made sure that I did not hijack
any other threads :-)

I have a pptp vpn server that works just fine except from dns, I can ping a
server and it will resolv but no packages are being received, does anyone
have any clues on how to sort this out?

I have tried to disable in a xp client ³Use default gateway on remote
network² and then add in the dns servers manually in the clients pptp
configuration but no difference at all, not even if I then enable the ³Use
default gateway on remote network² and leave the dns settings.

Regards
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Re: [CentOS] DNS Issues

[Kai Schaetzl]

Per Qvindesland wrote on Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:50:59 +0100:

> I have a pptp vpn server that works just fine except from dns, I can ping a
> server and it will resolv but no packages are being received,

Maybe it's just me, but I don't understand this. Does "except from dns" mean 
you have some problem against it from your DNS server? Or should it have been 
"except for"? If the latter, I then don't understand the next sentence: which 
packages? If you can ping it and if the hostname gets resolved there 
definitely *are* packages getting received. Maybe a more verbose example of 
what you do and what fails would help?

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Re: [CentOS] Working - Checking fan state

[Kai Schaetzl]

Robert Moskowitz wrote on Wed, 7 Jan 2009 19:55:19 -0500:

> Then I went into the BIOS and set it for the fan to always run while on 
> AC.

Wow, I didn't know there are BIOS settings for *that*.

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Re: [CentOS] Working - Checking fan state

[Robert Moskowitz]

Kai Schaetzl wrote:
> Robert Moskowitz wrote on Wed, 7 Jan 2009 19:55:19 -0500:
>
>   
>> Then I went into the BIOS and set it for the fan to always run while on 
>> AC.
>> 
>
> Wow, I didn't know there are BIOS settings for *that*.

I guess it falls under the power management catagory.  Since your on AC, 
you are not worried about battery performance, so keep the fan going and 
don't be so fancy with managing temperature


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Re: [CentOS] Working - Checking fan state

[Kai Schaetzl]

Robert Moskowitz wrote on Thu, 8 Jan 2009 08:26:35 -0500:

> I guess it falls under the power management catagory.  Since your on AC, 
> you are not worried about battery performance, so keep the fan going and 
> don't be so fancy with managing temperature

Well, yes, I just haven't seen it in a notebook BIOS yet. I'm obviously 
buying the wrong ones ;-)

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Re: [CentOS] Working - Checking fan state

[jkinz]

On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 01:28:41PM +0100, Kai Schaetzl wrote:
> Robert Moskowitz wrote on Wed, 7 Jan 2009 19:55:19 -0500:
> 
> > Then I went into the BIOS and set it for the fan to always run while on 
> > AC.
> 
> Wow, I didn't know there are BIOS settings for *that*.

Some have it, some don't.  You'll have to go hunting for it.
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[CentOS] Hierarchial storage management or automated archival to tape

[Bent Terp]

Hi list!

While regular backup solutions like amanda or bacula are very good at
their job, ie keeping point2point copies of the files currently on
disk, I find them less suited for archiving - having unused files move
to tape in duplo and stay there until requested. I've even read of
multi-tier solutions - move to slower disks after a week and further
on to tape after a month.

Does anyone have some experience or suggestions for this? The project
will deal with ~100 TB of growth per year, most files somewhere
between 2 and 50 GB.

Yes, it can be done with everything in one filesystem, but I'm
concerned about running a full backup every month of 500 TB ;-) Not to
mention the time required for recovery in case the filesys crashes

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Re: [CentOS] Hierarchial storage management or automated archival to tape

[Tony Placilla]

>>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:37 AM, in message
<77c4f5c60901080737ka0ee2fbr7f6badc9fc48e...@mail.gmail.com>, Bent Terp
 wrote: 
> Hi list!
> 
> While regular backup solutions like amanda or bacula are very good at
> their job, ie keeping point2point copies of the files currently on
> disk, I find them less suited for archiving - having unused files move
> to tape in duplo and stay there until requested. I've even read of
> multi-tier solutions - move to slower disks after a week and further
> on to tape after a month.
> 
> Does anyone have some experience or suggestions for this? The project
> will deal with ~100 TB of growth per year, most files somewhere
> between 2 and 50 GB.
> 
> Yes, it can be done with everything in one filesystem, but I'm
> concerned about running a full backup every month of 500 TB ;-) Not to
> mention the time required for recovery in case the filesys crashes
> 
> BR Bent


We use SAM-FS to do just that here in the libraries. 
http://opensolaris.org/os/project/samqfs/What_are_QFS_and_SAM/

It was open sourced last year. Not a simple tool to implement but it does work 
as advertised.


Tony Placilla 
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Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

[Max Hetrick]

René Standfest wrote:

> We have running at the moment eGroupWare, but we plan to migrate to SOGo
> (http://sogo.opengroupware.org) in the next two months (we had some annoying
> problems with eGW in the past). It has a really cool Webfrontend (looks like
> Thunderbird with Lightning) and has a really functional CalDAV-Interface which
> integrates perfectly into Thunderbird/Lightning.
> On the Website is a really good Install-Howto and it has even a yum repo.

Slightly OT, but just wondering if you are planning on running openLDAP 
on the SOGo Opengroupware installation, or whether or not you have an 
external LDAP server (CentOS DS or RHEL DS) that you are planning on using?

Any experiences or gotchas that you have already encountered that might 
be useful?

My company is planning on implementing either FDS or CentOS DS as an 
LDAP server, and I read the docs for SOGo, and they are using openLDAP 
on the same machine.

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Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

[Adam Tauno Williams]

> > We have running at the moment eGroupWare, but we plan to migrate to SOGo
> > (http://sogo.opengroupware.org) in the next two months (we had some annoying
> > problems with eGW in the past). It has a really cool Webfrontend (looks like
> > Thunderbird with Lightning) and has a really functional CalDAV-Interface 
> > which
> > integrates perfectly into Thunderbird/Lightning.
> > On the Website is a really good Install-Howto and it has even a yum repo.
> Slightly OT, but just wondering if you are planning on running openLDAP 
> on the SOGo Opengroupware installation, or whether or not you have an 
> external LDAP server (CentOS DS or RHEL DS) that you are planning on using?
> Any experiences or gotchas that you have already encountered that might 
> be useful?
> My company is planning on implementing either FDS or CentOS DS as an 
> LDAP server, and I read the docs for SOGo, and they are using openLDAP 
> on the same machine.

I develop on OpenGroupware, not SOGo, but both use SOPE's LDAP
library/bindings.  If the DSA supports LDAPv3 binds you shouldn't have
any problems using it.

I'd recommend OpenLDAP any day, as it is far-and-away the faster and
more feature-reach DSA.  But I very much doubt it matters in regards to
SOGo.

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Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

[Lars Schelde]

Bo Lynch wrote:
> Just wanted to get some thoughts from the list.
> 
> We are a public k-12 school and are looking to migrate to a groupware 
> style system for out staff to collaborate better. Currently we are 
> using Squirrelmail/postfix for email. Does anyone have any 
> recommendations/opinions. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

I will consider Sun Java Communications Suite as a serious candidate. 
Usermanagement is running in the Sun Directory Server. The calendarserver
integrates very well with thunderbird, outlook and the webinterface is quite
usefull. 

It is free, if You dont't need a support-contract.



Lars Schelde
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Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

[Max Hetrick]

Adam Tauno Williams wrote:

> I develop on OpenGroupware, not SOGo, but both use SOPE's LDAP
> library/bindings.  If the DSA supports LDAPv3 binds you shouldn't have
> any problems using it.
> 
> I'd recommend OpenLDAP any day, as it is far-and-away the faster and
> more feature-reach DSA.  But I very much doubt it matters in regards to
> SOGo.

Adam,

Excellent. Thanks!

Max
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Today's Topics:

   1. CESA-2009:0005 Moderate CentOS 3 i386 gnome-vfs2  - security
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   2. CESA-2009:0005 Moderate CentOS 3 x86_64   gnome-vfs2 - security
  update (Tru Huynh)
   3. CESA-2009:0018 Important CentOS 3 i386 xterm -security
  update (Tru Huynh)
   4. CESA-2009:0018 Important CentOS 3 x86_64 xterm -  security
  update (Tru Huynh)
   5. CESA-2009:0004 Important CentOS 3 i386 openssl -  security
  update (Tru Huynh)
   6. CESA-2009:0004 Important CentOS 3 x86_64 openssl  - security
  update (Tru Huynh)
   7. CESA-2009:0002 Moderate CentOS 5 i386 thunderbird Update
  (Karanbir Singh)
   8. CESA-2009:0002 Moderate CentOS 5 x86_64   thunderbird Update
  (Karanbir Singh)
   9. CESA-2009:0018 Important CentOS 5 i386 xterm  Update
  (Karanbir Singh)
  10. CESA-2009:0018 Important CentOS 5 x86_64 xtermUpdate
  (Karanbir Singh)
  11. CESA-2009:0011 Moderate CentOS 5 i386 lcms Update (Karanbir Singh)
  12. CESA-2009:0011 Moderate CentOS 5 x86_64 lcms  Update
  (Karanbir Singh)
  13. CESA-2009:0008 Moderate CentOS 5 i386 dbus Update (Karanbir Singh)
  14. CESA-2009:0008 Moderate CentOS 5 x86_64 dbus  Update
  (Karanbir Singh)
  15. CESA-2009:0004 Important CentOS 5 i386 opensslUpdate
  (Karanbir Singh)
  16. CESA-2009:0004 Important CentOS 5 x86_64 openssl  Update
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 23:22:23 +0100
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Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2009:0005 Moderate CentOS 3 i386
gnome-vfs2  - security update
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CentOS Errata and Security Advisory CESA-2009:0005

gnome-vfs2 security update for CentOS 3 i386:
https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2009-0005.html

The following updated file has been uploaded and is currently syncing to
the mirrors:

i386:
updates/i386/RPMS/gnome-vfs2-2.2.5-2E.3.3.i386.rpm
updates/i386/RPMS/gnome-vfs2-devel-2.2.5-2E.3.3.i386.rpm

source:
updates/SRPMS/gnome-vfs2-2.2.5-2E.3.3.src.rpm

You may update your CentOS-3 i386 installations by running the command:

yum update gnome-vfs2

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Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2009:0005 Moderate CentOS 3 x86_64
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CentOS Errata and Security Advisory CESA-2009:0005

gnome-vfs2 security update for CentOS 3 x86_64:
https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2009-0005.html

The following updated file has been uploaded and is currently syncing to
the mirrors:

x86_64:
updates/x86_64/RPMS/gnome-vfs2-2.2.5-2E.3.3.i386.rpm
updates/x86_64/RPMS/gnome-vfs2-2.2.5-2E.3.3.x86_64.rpm
updates/x86_64/RPMS/gnome-vfs2-devel-2.2.5-2E.3.3.x86_64.rpm

source:
updates/SRPMS/gnome-vfs2-2.2.5-2E.3.3.src.rpm

You may update your CentOS-3 x86_64 installations by running the command:

yum update gnome-vfs2

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Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2009:0018 Important CentOS 3 i386
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CentOS Errata and Security Advisory CESA-2009:0018

xterm security update for CentOS 3 i386:
https://rhn.redhat.com/err

Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

[René Standfest]

Max Hetrick schrieb am 08.01.2009 17:23:
>> We have running at the moment eGroupWare, but we plan to migrate to SOGo
>> (http://sogo.opengroupware.org) in the next two months (we had some annoying
>> problems with eGW in the past). It has a really cool Webfrontend (looks like
>> Thunderbird with Lightning) and has a really functional CalDAV-Interface 
>> which
>> integrates perfectly into Thunderbird/Lightning.
>> On the Website is a really good Install-Howto and it has even a yum repo.
> 
> Slightly OT, but just wondering if you are planning on running openLDAP 
> on the SOGo Opengroupware installation, or whether or not you have an 
> external LDAP server (CentOS DS or RHEL DS) that you are planning on using?

We have a mixed network and use Active Directory as central directory service.
I had no problems to bind SOGo to ADS. But it should be no problem to use
OpenLDAP or similar.

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Re: [CentOS] How to change an executable into a directory

[MHR]

On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 10:59 PM, CM  wrote:
> On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 08:16:08 -0800
> Scott Silva  wrote:
>
>>
>> >
>> > So, is there a way to change a file into a directory?  Or am I
>> > crazy?
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > mhr
>> No and Maybe!  ;-P
>
> I beg to differ on the first answer:  anything can happen given
> sufficient uncorrected file system errors .  ;-)
>

Interesting thought - I've fsck'd that partition, but I will do again - thanks.

As for crazy, well, I defer

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[CentOS] Update to Centos 5 anaconda kickstart %post bug?

[Warren, Eucke]

Is there a process for finding status updates to open bugs within
Centos?  The particular bug I am talking about is 0002329
http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=2329.  This was assigned on
01-20-2008 and, as far as I can tell, there's been no action other than
it being acknowledged.  I've also searched upstream with RHEL and FC and
I cannot seem to find a bug report there though complaints of the
problem can be found through searching the web.

I do see the manual fix for it and will be testing that shortly.  I am,
however, dealing with a fairly rigid internal legal department that may
not welcome a "fix" that's not "official".  So I have two questions:

1) Is there an "official" or "accepted" way to inquire about the status
of an open bug?
2) With regard to bug 0002329 is this something that has to be fixed
upstream so it filters down to centos?

Thank you!
 
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Re: [CentOS] DNS Issues

[Scott Silva]

on 1-8-2009 4:28 AM Kai Schaetzl spake the following:
> Per Qvindesland wrote on Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:50:59 +0100:
> 
>> I have a pptp vpn server that works just fine except from dns, I can ping a
>> server and it will resolv but no packages are being received,
> 
> Maybe it's just me, but I don't understand this. Does "except from dns" mean 
> you have some problem against it from your DNS server? Or should it have been 
> "except for"? If the latter, I then don't understand the next sentence: which 
> packages? If you can ping it and if the hostname gets resolved there 
> definitely *are* packages getting received. Maybe a more verbose example of 
> what you do and what fails would help?
> 
> Kai
> 
Its not you, I didn't get what the OP was asking either, so I was just going
to ignore it until someone else spoke up.

Do packages = packets or do
packages = software packages.

Maybe the OP can ask on a list that speaks their native language. It might be
easier to describe the problem.

Or at least post the best way you can translate, and add a paragraph in your
native tongue in case someone on the lists can understand better.

Native language list would probably be easier for the OP.



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Re: [CentOS] Update to Centos 5 anaconda kickstart %post bug?

[Scott Silva]

on 1-8-2009 1:28 PM Warren, Eucke spake the following:
> Is there a process for finding status updates to open bugs within
> Centos?  The particular bug I am talking about is 0002329
> http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=2329.  This was assigned on
> 01-20-2008 and, as far as I can tell, there's been no action other than
> it being acknowledged.  I've also searched upstream with RHEL and FC and
> I cannot seem to find a bug report there though complaints of the
> problem can be found through searching the web.
> 
> I do see the manual fix for it and will be testing that shortly.  I am,
> however, dealing with a fairly rigid internal legal department that may
> not welcome a "fix" that's not "official".  So I have two questions:
> 
> 1) Is there an "official" or "accepted" way to inquire about the status
> of an open bug?
> 2) With regard to bug 0002329 is this something that has to be fixed
> upstream so it filters down to centos?
> 
> Thank you!
>  
> Eucke
The bug page gives you the status. It was assigned (to Karanbir), and he
ack'ed it. If it was fixed, it would be resolved. It shouldn't be that hard to
apply the fix manually and your legal department is too rigid if they are that
picky about a fix to "free" software. I can see if they were paying contract
support on it.

If Karanbir thinks it merits an upstream bug report, I'm almost sure he might
do that, if the original bug poster doesn't. It "might" be fixed by the time
5.3 comes out, but do you want to wait?



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Re: [CentOS] Update to Centos 5 anaconda kickstart %post bug?

[Scott Silva]

on 1-8-2009 2:33 PM Scott Silva spake the following:
> on 1-8-2009 1:28 PM Warren, Eucke spake the following:
>> Is there a process for finding status updates to open bugs within
>> Centos?  The particular bug I am talking about is 0002329
>> http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=2329.  This was assigned on
>> 01-20-2008 and, as far as I can tell, there's been no action other than
>> it being acknowledged.  I've also searched upstream with RHEL and FC and
>> I cannot seem to find a bug report there though complaints of the
>> problem can be found through searching the web.
>>
>> I do see the manual fix for it and will be testing that shortly.  I am,
>> however, dealing with a fairly rigid internal legal department that may
>> not welcome a "fix" that's not "official".  So I have two questions:
>>
>> 1) Is there an "official" or "accepted" way to inquire about the status
>> of an open bug?
>> 2) With regard to bug 0002329 is this something that has to be fixed
>> upstream so it filters down to centos?
>>
>> Thank you!
>>  
>> Eucke
> The bug page gives you the status. It was assigned (to Karanbir), and he
> ack'ed it. If it was fixed, it would be resolved. It shouldn't be that hard to
> apply the fix manually and your legal department is too rigid if they are that
> picky about a fix to "free" software. I can see if they were paying contract
> support on it.
> 
> If Karanbir thinks it merits an upstream bug report, I'm almost sure he might
> do that, if the original bug poster doesn't. It "might" be fixed by the time
> 5.3 comes out, but do you want to wait?
So it is a year old... people get busy... ;-P

It must be of a low enough priority to not get a lot of attention.



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Re: [CentOS] Update to Centos 5 anaconda kickstart %post bug?

[Warren, Eucke]

Scott Silva wrote:
> The bug page gives you the status. It was assigned (to Karanbir), and
he ack'ed it. If it was fixed, it would 
> be resolved. It shouldn't be that hard to apply the fix manually and
your legal department is too rigid if they 
> are that picky about a fix to "free" software. I can see if they were
paying contract support on it.

I appreciate the response.  If you recall I did post the link so it's a
safe assumption that I read the page and understood it's content.  What
I'm after is whether there's any other information channel that might
not be so obvious for seeing if there might be action coming up for an
particular issue.  Being in a highly regulated industry the legal
department has a tough job.  I work within the guidelines they set.

> If Karanbir thinks it merits an upstream bug report, I'm almost sure
he might do that, if the original bug 
> poster doesn't. It "might" be fixed by the time
> 5.3 comes out, but do you want to wait?

I am restricted to 5.1 as approved by legal.  5.2 is not approved so 5.3
isn't an option either.  Once I can sort out whether something
"official" will fix this I can then determine how to pursue this
internally.  A workaround fix does not address that the kickstart-built
system will still contain this bug as it will be built from RPM's that
are not fixed.



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[CentOS] Update to Centos 5 anaconda kickstart %post bug?

[R P Herrold]

On Thu, 8 Jan 2009, Scott Silva wrote:

>> on 1-8-2009 1:28 PM Warren, Eucke spake the following:

>>> Is there a process for finding status updates to open bugs 
>>> within Centos?

-- view it in a web browser, and optionally 'monitor' it so 
emails of updated state are received

-- offer to buy support from the the project or person it is 
assigned to, if really important [not likely and really CentOS 
is not interested in competing with the upstream]

-- buy enough upstream subscriptions to get assigned a TAC 
[and watch the report get triaged down to irrelevance ;) ]

>>> I do see the manual fix for it and will be testing that 
>>> shortly.  I am, however, dealing with a fairly rigid 
>>> internal legal department that may not welcome a "fix" 
>>> that's not "official".

official from centos means:

http://mirror.centos.org/centos-5/5/os/i386/EULA

Have fun watching legal and finance fight.

> It must be of a low enough priority to not get a lot of attention.

Also, anyone who is on the upstream anaconda and kickstart 
mailing lists has seen this issue reported and debated, and 
more importantly knows that anaconda is tailored to each major 
release upstream.

Frankly, it is generally not worth fixing nor materially 
addressing with upstream without lots of TAC interest and 
firepower, as the patches be ignored, and will rot like fruit 
in the hot Sun (or be refactored away as it is so closely tied 
to the then underlying Python's quirks)  ;)

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Re: [CentOS] [CentOS-announce] CESA-2009:0004 Important CentOS 5 i386 openssl Update

[Karanbir Singh]

Chris Schanzle wrote:
> Forgive me if this email is inappropriate, but are i686 packages going 
> to be made available?  They were in the original 5.2 release and in the 
> base install on modern CPU's.  Thanks!  --Chris


yes! they are in the upgrade queue, should be online in 45 min or so.

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Re: [CentOS] Update to Centos 5 anaconda kickstart %post bug?

[Lanny Marcus]

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Warren, Eucke  wrote:

> I appreciate the response.  If you recall I did post the link so it's a
> safe assumption that I read the page and understood it's content.  What
> I'm after is whether there's any other information channel that might
> not be so obvious for seeing if there might be action coming up for an
> particular issue.  Being in a highly regulated industry the legal
> department has a tough job.  I work within the guidelines they set.
>
>> If Karanbir thinks it merits an upstream bug report, I'm almost sure
> he might do that, if the original bug
>> poster doesn't. It "might" be fixed by the time
>> 5.3 comes out, but do you want to wait?
>
> I am restricted to 5.1 as approved by legal.  5.2 is not approved so 5.3
> isn't an option either.

Does that mean that your Legal Department does not permit you  to
upgrade your box, to get the latest packages, issued for Security &
Stability reasons? 5.1, as you are well aware, is not the latest and
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Re: [CentOS] Update to Centos 5 anaconda kickstart %post bug?

[Scott Silva]

on 1-8-2009 3:14 PM Warren, Eucke spake the following:
> Scott Silva wrote:
>> The bug page gives you the status. It was assigned (to Karanbir), and
> he ack'ed it. If it was fixed, it would 
>> be resolved. It shouldn't be that hard to apply the fix manually and
> your legal department is too rigid if they 
>> are that picky about a fix to "free" software. I can see if they were
> paying contract support on it.
> 
> I appreciate the response.  If you recall I did post the link so it's a
> safe assumption that I read the page and understood it's content.  What
> I'm after is whether there's any other information channel that might
> not be so obvious for seeing if there might be action coming up for an
> particular issue.  Being in a highly regulated industry the legal
> department has a tough job.  I work within the guidelines they set.
> 
>> If Karanbir thinks it merits an upstream bug report, I'm almost sure
> he might do that, if the original bug 
>> poster doesn't. It "might" be fixed by the time
>> 5.3 comes out, but do you want to wait?
> 
> I am restricted to 5.1 as approved by legal.  5.2 is not approved so 5.3
> isn't an option either.  Once I can sort out whether something
> "official" will fix this I can then determine how to pursue this
> internally.  A workaround fix does not address that the kickstart-built
> system will still contain this bug as it will be built from RPM's that
> are not fixed.
> 
> 
> 
> Eucke
You might want to hint to your legal department that unpatched servers sitting
on the internet are just waiting to be hacked and exploited.
The fact that they make you sit with an older version without any patches says
that they have no idea how much damage can be done, or how much info can leak
from unpatched systems.

Maybe if a million customer records leak out because they won't let you patch
systems they might update their thinking.



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Re: [CentOS] Update to Centos 5 anaconda kickstart %post bug?

[Warren, Eucke]

Lanny Marcus Wrote:
> Does that mean that your Legal Department does not permit you  to
upgrade your box, to get the latest packages, 
> issued for Security & Stability reasons? 5.1, as you are well aware,
is not the latest and greatest.

That is correct.  What they approve is based on the contents of the DVD
or CD for a particular version at the time of initial release.  The
governmental regulatory framework in which we work is what drives the
requirements.  I am well aware that 5.1 is not the latest, greatest,
current or anything else of that matter. 



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Re: [CentOS] Update to Centos 5 anaconda kickstart %post bug?

[John R Pierce]

Warren, Eucke wrote:
> Lanny Marcus Wrote:
>   
>> Does that mean that your Legal Department does not permit you  to
>> 
> upgrade your box, to get the latest packages, 
>   
>> issued for Security & Stability reasons? 5.1, as you are well aware,
>> 
> is not the latest and greatest.
>
> That is correct.  What they approve is based on the contents of the DVD
> or CD for a particular version at the time of initial release.  The
> governmental regulatory framework in which we work is what drives the
> requirements.  I am well aware that 5.1 is not the latest, greatest,
> current or anything else of that matter. 
>   


so you're not allowed to apply security patches or updates?   because, 
just as soon as you

# yum update

you're on whatever is latest for the major version you're running, 
regardless of what point release you initially installed.




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Re: [CentOS] Update to Centos 5 anaconda kickstart %post bug?

[Lanny Marcus]

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Scott Silva  wrote:
> on 1-8-2009 3:14 PM Warren, Eucke spake the following:

>> I appreciate the response.  If you recall I did post the link so it's a
>> safe assumption that I read the page and understood it's content.  What
>> I'm after is whether there's any other information channel that might
>> not be so obvious for seeing if there might be action coming up for an
>> particular issue.  Being in a highly regulated industry the legal
>> department has a tough job.  I work within the guidelines they set.
>>

>> I am restricted to 5.1 as approved by legal.  5.2 is not approved so 5.3
>> isn't an option either.  Once I can sort out whether something
>> "official" will fix this I can then determine how to pursue this
>> internally.  A workaround fix does not address that the kickstart-built
>> system will still contain this bug as it will be built from RPM's that
>> are not fixed.

> You might want to hint to your legal department that unpatched servers sitting
> on the internet are just waiting to be hacked and exploited.
> The fact that they make you sit with an older version without any patches says
> that they have no idea how much damage can be done, or how much info can leak
> from unpatched systems.
>
> Maybe if a million customer records leak out because they won't let you patch
> systems they might update their thinking.

Well said Scott. They are in the gambling business and I fully support
what the Nevada Gaming Commission (or those in other states) does.
However, I cannot imagine they want Software that has been updated for
Security or Stability reasons not to be updated.
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Re: [CentOS] Update to Centos 5 anaconda kickstart %post bug?

[Warren, Eucke]

Scott Silva wrote:
> You might want to hint to your legal department that unpatched servers
sitting on the internet are just waiting > to be hacked and exploited.
The fact that they make you sit with an older version without any
patches says that 
> they have no idea how much damage can be done, or how much info can
leak from unpatched systems.

> Maybe if a million customer records leak out because they won't let
you patch systems they might update their thinking.

Not relevant.  These machines are not tied to any public network.  As
much as I appreciate the commentary and lessons you're not telling me
anything I'm not already aware of.  I'm simply seeking some insight on
this particular bug and, more generally, if there's a better way to find
status on something like this.  So far RP Herrold has helped most as I
was not aware that there's been much conversation within anaconda and
kickstart mailing lists.



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[CentOS] Problems with RPM Database, usual techniques not working to recover DB

[Brian Lynch]

I have a CentOS 5.2 i386 Development server that has a rpm db problem that I
can't seem to solve.

I have followed all the advice on Daniel Berrange's page on rpm db recovery:

http://people.redhat.com/berrange/notes/rpmrecovery.html

With no results, all I get from "rpm -qa" is list of two public gpg keys
that are listed in the file system root.

My question is where do I start to recover from this?  Do I reinstall rpm?
So far rpm refuses to do so (using any of the command line options and
combination of options), I could do it with a tar command from source rpm
file, or is that asking for more trouble?

Looking for feedback on ideas to recover this system, it had a nasty crash
with the install of new kernel that fixed the plusxen kernel problem in
early December and I'm trying to get it back on its feet again.

If you want the whole blow by blow account you can find it at this posting
in the CentOS forum:

http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=18006&forum=37

Thank You In Advance for any advice you may be able to give,

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Re: [CentOS] Update to Centos 5 anaconda kickstart %post bug?

[Scott Silva]

on 1-8-2009 3:41 PM Lanny Marcus spake the following:
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Scott Silva 
>  wrote:
>> on 1-8-2009 3:14 PM Warren, Eucke spake the following:
> 
>>> I appreciate the response.  If you recall I did post the link so it's a
>>> safe assumption that I read the page and understood it's content.  What
>>> I'm after is whether there's any other information channel that might
>>> not be so obvious for seeing if there might be action coming up for an
>>> particular issue.  Being in a highly regulated industry the legal
>>> department has a tough job.  I work within the guidelines they set.
>>>
> 
>>> I am restricted to 5.1 as approved by legal.  5.2 is not approved so 5.3
>>> isn't an option either.  Once I can sort out whether something
>>> "official" will fix this I can then determine how to pursue this
>>> internally.  A workaround fix does not address that the kickstart-built
>>> system will still contain this bug as it will be built from RPM's that
>>> are not fixed.
> 
>> You might want to hint to your legal department that unpatched servers 
>> sitting
>> on the internet are just waiting to be hacked and exploited.
>> The fact that they make you sit with an older version without any patches 
>> says
>> that they have no idea how much damage can be done, or how much info can leak
>> from unpatched systems.
>>
>> Maybe if a million customer records leak out because they won't let you patch
>> systems they might update their thinking.
> 
> Well said Scott. They are in the gambling business and I fully support
> what the Nevada Gaming Commission (or those in other states) does.
> However, I cannot imagine they want Software that has been updated for
> Security or Stability reasons not to be updated.
>  Lanny
I thought the gaming industry used the IBM midrange equipment almost
exclusively, or maybe that is only on their backend systems that actually
control the machines.

Maybe the legal department doesn't realize that once updated, it is a
different version. Many other people on this list have had that impression
through the years.


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Re: [CentOS] Problems with RPM Database, usual techniques not working to recover DB

[Scott Silva]

on 1-8-2009 3:55 PM Brian Lynch spake the following:
> I have a CentOS 5.2 i386 Development server that has a rpm db problem that I
> can't seem to solve.
> 
> I have followed all the advice on Daniel Berrange's page on rpm db recovery:
> 
> http://people.redhat.com/berrange/notes/rpmrecovery.html
> 
> With no results, all I get from "rpm -qa" is list of two public gpg keys
> that are listed in the file system root.
> 
> My question is where do I start to recover from this?  Do I reinstall rpm?
> So far rpm refuses to do so (using any of the command line options and
> combination of options), I could do it with a tar command from source rpm
> file, or is that asking for more trouble?
> 
> Looking for feedback on ideas to recover this system, it had a nasty crash
> with the install of new kernel that fixed the plusxen kernel problem in
> early December and I'm trying to get it back on its feet again.
> 
> If you want the whole blow by blow account you can find it at this posting
> in the CentOS forum:
> 
> http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=18006&forum=37
> 
> Thank You In Advance for any advice you may be able to give,
> 
> -
> Brian Lynch
Sometimes it just can't be fixed, and requires a full backup and re-install to
fix some issues.
Not the help you wanted to hear, I'm sure, but for the time you have spent
trying to fix it, you might already be done with a re-install.
Otherwise you might try the last part of the forum post on a clean install on
another temporary system and copy that rpm package database back to the broken
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Re: [CentOS] Update to Centos 5 anaconda kickstart %post bug?

[Richard Karhuse]

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Warren, Eucke  wrote:
>
> I am restricted to 5.1 as approved by legal.  5.2 is not approved so 5.3
> isn't an option either.  Once I can sort out whether something
> "official" will fix this I can then determine how to pursue this
> internally.  A workaround fix does not address that the kickstart-built
> system will still contain this bug as it will be built from RPM's that
> are not fixed.
>
> Eucke

OK -- I might be missing something here ... 

You're running your own kickstart file, yes/no?  And, running into
this issue.  Since you can control the ks.cfg, why not put into the
%pre section something that copies the section of the CD that
you need in the %post section to the RAM disk??  E.g.:

mkdir /tmp/source
CDR=/mnt/cdrom; [ ! -d "$CDR" ] && mkdir -p "$CDR"
DEV="/dev/$(sed -ne 's/.*trying to mount CD device //p' /tmp/anaconda.log)"

if  [ -b "$DEV" ] ; then
:
  elif [ -b /dev/cdrom ] ; then
DEV=/dev/cdrom
  elif [ -b /dev/scd0 ]  ; then
DEV=/dev/scd0
  elif [ -b /dev/hdd ]   ; then
DEV=/dev/hdd
  elif [ -b /dev/hdc ]   ; then
DEV=/dev/hdc
  elif [ -b /dev/hdb ]   ; then
DEV=/dev/hdb
   elif [ -b /dev/hda ]   ; then
DEV=/dev/hda
else
DEV=/tmp/cdrom
fi

mount -r -t iso9660 "$DEV" "$CDR" && \
   cp -rp $CDR/.../tmp/source/

might give you some ideas ...

Remember ... you may be in a chroor'd env in the %post
section, so you may need to have a non-chroot'd %post
that copies the /tmp/source above to your built filesystems
(e.g., /mnt/sysimage/tmp).

I hope that helps ..


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Re: [CentOS] Hierarchial storage management or automated archival to tape

[Bent Terp]

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Tony Placilla
 wrote:
> We use SAM-FS to do just that here in the libraries.
> http://opensolaris.org/os/project/samqfs/What_are_QFS_and_SAM/

Thanks for the pointer! Do you use SAM with QFS or ZFS? Or some sort of combo?

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Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

[Bo Lynch]

On Wed, January 7, 2009 7:19 pm, Craig White wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 18:54 -0500, Bo Lynch wrote:
>
>>
>> So are you required to run zimbras release of these packages?
>>
>> If you are forced to use them then how delayed are the releases.
>> Are you able to use something other than amavis and clam for scanning??
>> We
>> use a product called VAMS released by central command for spam and
>> antivirus on our mail server currently. These guys are very generous
>> with
>> pricing when it comes to educational facilities in case anyone is
>> looking.
> 
> zimbra is pretty much of a closed box in that they have already decided
> what / how / where you will run stuff and no, you can't run anything
> other than the way they have decided it unless you decide to put a box
> in front of the zimbra server to receive mail first before you pass it
> to the zimbra box.
>
> zimbra is also not a lightweight system by any means.
>
> There are a lot of schools running Horde/IMP/etc.
>
> Craig
>

I have been looking at both and the thing that concerns me with zimbra is
the closed box scenario and the EULA. I was assuming that its was license
was going to be GPL. But its YPL Yahoo. Does anyone think this is
something to be concerned with in the future? Meaning down the road zimbra
closes its open source edition?

What does Horde really lack from zimbra?

Bo

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Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

[Bill Campbell]

On Fri, Jan 09, 2009, Bo Lynch wrote:
>On Wed, January 7, 2009 7:19 pm, Craig White wrote:
>> On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 18:54 -0500, Bo Lynch wrote:
...
>> zimbra is pretty much of a closed box in that they have already decided
>> what / how / where you will run stuff and no, you can't run anything
>> other than the way they have decided it unless you decide to put a box
>> in front of the zimbra server to receive mail first before you pass it
>> to the zimbra box.
>>
>> zimbra is also not a lightweight system by any means.
>>
>> There are a lot of schools running Horde/IMP/etc.
>>
>> Craig
>>
>
>I have been looking at both and the thing that concerns me with zimbra is
>the closed box scenario and the EULA. I was assuming that its was license
>was going to be GPL. But its YPL Yahoo. Does anyone think this is
>something to be concerned with in the future? Meaning down the road zimbra
>closes its open source edition?
>
>What does Horde really lack from zimbra?

Easy conversion from existing Exchange servers.

This is not something I personally care or know much about as I
have never voluntarily used any Microsoft Windows systems or
software, but there are many who do.

We have migrated such customers from Exchange to Zimbra, and use
Samba as well with good results.  Most of these systems run
Zimbra in a VMware Server CentOS virtual machine on a CentOS host.
The VM runs only Zimbra, while everything else of interest runs
on the host machine.

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[CentOS] yum update nfs

[Agile Aspect]

Hi - when I'm running CentOS 4.4, and I run the
command

yum update nfs

which version of NFS do I get - the version for
CentOS 4.4,  or the version for CentOS 4.7
(which I presume is the latest release)?

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[CentOS] Tesseract OCR

[Timothy Kesten]

Hi Folks,  

 Is  here someone, which has  experiences with tesseract-ocr and CentOS 5?

Where are  suitable rpm's?

Thx
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Re: [CentOS] Tesseract OCR - solved

[Timothy Kesten]

found suitable rpm on

http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/5020161/com/tesseract-2.01-1.fc7.i386.rpm.html

and it works.

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