[CentOS] Centos4: USB disk standby?

[Rainer Traut]

Hi,

I've decided to use an external USB disk as backup with rsync.
This works fine.

When the external disk is mounted, it does not go into 
standby/sleep/whatever, though I'm using it only for 30minutes at night.

Is there a way to do this with C4, 2.6.9-78.0.8.ELsmp?
E.g. unmount/some special command/upgrade to 5.2?

Thx
Raier
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Re: [CentOS] Problems compiling PostgreSQL package from FC8 on CentOS 5

[Pintér Tibor]

http://yum.pgsqlrpms.org/reporpms/repoview/pgdg-centos.html

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5 Dom0 doesn't start all DomU images

[Rudi Ahlers]

On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Kai Schaetzl  wrote:
> Devraj Mukherjee wrote on Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:05:07 +1100:
>
>> but if I copy the
>> configuration files to /etc/xen/auto only one of the DomUs seem to
>> start up automatically.
>
> You should not copy, but symlink them!
> Does an xm list show these domUs, no matter if they run or not?
>
> BTW: this is a question for the virt list!
>
> Kai
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xm list will only show the active running VM's, not all of them :)


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS Bug Reporting Policy

[Phil Schaffner]

Hywel Richards wrote:
> It looks like maybe I was right to be confused as to where to report 
> bugs as now there are two different answers.
> 
> Karanbir Singh wrote:
>> Hywel Richards wrote:
>>   
>>> Is there some policy as to what to do and where to report the bug?
>>> 
>> report it on bugs.centos.org unless you have a RHEL subscription and are 
>> able to also reproduce the exact same issue under the exact same 
>> conditions, in which case you should report it at bugzilla.redhat.com
>>   
> 
> Unfortunately I'm not in a position to do that - no RHEL subscription or 
> installation.
> This is why previously I've been hesitant to report any problems there.

I'm in the same boat, but have frequently jumped in on already-reported 
upstream bugs to confirm on CentOS, or asked other to see if the problem 
is in the upstream product for CentOS bugs.

>>> It doesn't seem appropriate to report it to http://bugs.centos.org 
>>> because CentOS is kept in-sync with the upstream, so bugs will never get 
>>> fixed in CentOS, only in the upstream distribution.
>>> 
>> Thats not really 100% black/white situation - if there is a major issue 
>> that has implications, and we are able to fix it locally we will always 
>> do that and users are quite welcome to jump over and move into the 
>> contributors side of things for such issues.
>>   
> 
> The ones I've encountered so far are typically not major - not 
> showshoppers for most people (otherwise they would get fixed a lot 
> faster without any intervention from me anyway).
> 
> An example is this sprof problem that I reported in July: 
> http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=3021

Looks a lot like
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=458861
that is marked "Status: RELEASE_PENDING", so one might expect a fix in 5.3.

Added a note to the CentOS BZ and a link to CentOS to the upstream BZ.

> Another example is that the driver for my samsung printer prints garbage 
> in high quality mode (the default), but works fine in standard mode (a 
> useful thing to know).
> 
>> However, the reason I said you should really report issues at 
>> bugs.centos.org is that someone needs to first make sure it is indeed 
>> not an issue introduced by the CentOS process ( We had had a few of 
>> those as well ), and the issue needs to go upstream.
>>
>>   
> 
> This seems like a sensible policy to me.
> However, is there any process whereby bugs eventually get referred 
> upstream, if not by the original bug reporter?
> It seems to me that the examples I gave above are unlikely to be 
> introduced by CentOS, and should be appreciated by the upstream provider.
> 
> Whatever the system, I think it would be pretty useful to have something 
> written down somewhere, so that CentOS users like me know what to do 
> when they encounter bugs. E.g. for that sprof problem, I'm not sure if I 
> should wait on CentOS developers to process it (in which case there 
> isn't much to say), or whether I should be also reporting it to redhat, 
> as suggested in the other response, in which case I think further 
> instructions are necessary).

Often CentOS developers will either report upstream or ask others to do
so in the CentOS BZ notes.  A clearly-stated stated policy would
certainly help avoid confusion.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5 Dom0 doesn't start all DomU images

[Kai Schaetzl]

Rudi Ahlers wrote on Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:15:44 +0200:

> xm list will only show the active running VM's, not all of them :)

If one asks that specifically I would rethink that twice as you might be 
missing something ;-)

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5 Dom0 doesn't start all DomU images

[Kai Schaetzl]

Devraj Mukherjee wrote on Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:05:07 +1100:

> but if I copy the
> configuration files to /etc/xen/auto only one of the DomUs seem to
> start up automatically.

You should not copy, but symlink them!
Does an xm list show these domUs, no matter if they run or not?

BTW: this is a question for the virt list!

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Re: [CentOS] SSH login to centos

[Rudi Ahlers]

On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Gopinath Achari
 wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>SSH login to Centos 5.2 (Fresh installed) system takes a long 
> time, what is
> the problem. anyone aware of this
>
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This often means that DNS it's setup on that machine. The quickest way
is to make sure the hostname is in /etc/hosts with the correct IP.

On the machine, type in hostname & ifconfig to get the correct values


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS Bug Reporting Policy

[Hywel Richards]

It looks like maybe I was right to be confused as to where to report 
bugs as now there are two different answers.

Karanbir Singh wrote:
> Hywel Richards wrote:
>   
>> Is there some policy as to what to do and where to report the bug?
>> 
>
> report it on bugs.centos.org unless you have a RHEL subscription and are 
> able to also reproduce the exact same issue under the exact same 
> conditions, in which case you should report it at bugzilla.redhat.com
>   

Unfortunately I'm not in a position to do that - no RHEL subscription or 
installation.
This is why previously I've been hesitant to report any problems there.

>> It doesn't seem appropriate to report it to http://bugs.centos.org 
>> because CentOS is kept in-sync with the upstream, so bugs will never get 
>> fixed in CentOS, only in the upstream distribution.
>> 
>
> Thats not really 100% black/white situation - if there is a major issue 
> that has implications, and we are able to fix it locally we will always 
> do that and users are quite welcome to jump over and move into the 
> contributors side of things for such issues.
>   

The ones I've encountered so far are typically not major - not 
showshoppers for most people (otherwise they would get fixed a lot 
faster without any intervention from me anyway).

An example is this sprof problem that I reported in July: 
http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=3021
Another example is that the driver for my samsung printer prints garbage 
in high quality mode (the default), but works fine in standard mode (a 
useful thing to know).

> However, the reason I said you should really report issues at 
> bugs.centos.org is that someone needs to first make sure it is indeed 
> not an issue introduced by the CentOS process ( We had had a few of 
> those as well ), and the issue needs to go upstream.
>
>   

This seems like a sensible policy to me.
However, is there any process whereby bugs eventually get referred 
upstream, if not by the original bug reporter?
It seems to me that the examples I gave above are unlikely to be 
introduced by CentOS, and should be appreciated by the upstream provider.

Whatever the system, I think it would be pretty useful to have something 
written down somewhere, so that CentOS users like me know what to do 
when they encounter bugs. E.g. for that sprof problem, I'm not sure if I 
should wait on CentOS developers to process it (in which case there 
isn't much to say), or whether I should be also reporting it to redhat, 
as suggested in the other response, in which case I think further 
instructions are necessary).

Hywel.



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Re: [CentOS] Centos4: USB disk standby?

[Christoph Neuhaus]

Hi Rainer,

> When the external disk is mounted, it does not go into
> standby/sleep/whatever, though I'm using it only for 30minutes at night.
>
> Is there a way to do this with C4, 2.6.9-78.0.8.ELsmp?
> E.g. unmount/some special command/upgrade to 5.2?

man sg_start (part of the sg3_utils package). For a Western Digital MyBook  
I use:
  sg_start 0 --pc=3 /dev/sda

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[CentOS] Problems compiling PostgreSQL package from FC8 on CentOS 5

[Peter Hopfgartner]

Dear CentOS list

we are a small software company making mostly web driven GIS software. 
We started to simplify out sysadmin life  making RPM packages of most of 
the GIS software stack. For a dependency issue we had to abandon the 
upstream 8.1 PostgreSQL and install at least a 8.2 version. Taking the 
package from Fedora 8 and rebuilding it for x86_64 went smoothly. 
Unfortunatly the same is not true for i386. It stops with:

 checking for collateindex.pl... no
checking for sgmlspl... no
checking thread safety of required library functions... no
configure: error: thread test program failed
This platform is not thread-safe.  Check the file 'config.log' for the
exact reason.

You can use the configure option --enable-thread-safety-force to force
threads to be enabled.  But you must then run the program in
src/test/thread and add locking function calls to your applications to
guarantee thread safety.
error: Bad exit status from 
/home/peter.hopfgartner/rpmbuild/tmp/rpm-tmp.77591 (%build)


RPM build errors:
Bad exit status from 
/home/peter.hopfgartner/rpmbuild/tmp/rpm-tmp.77591 (%build)


The temporary file is:

#!/bin/sh

  RPM_SOURCE_DIR="/home/peter.hopfgartner/rpmbuild/SOURCES"
  RPM_BUILD_DIR="/home/peter.hopfgartner/rpmbuild/BUILD"
  RPM_OPT_FLAGS="-O2 -g -march=i386 -mcpu=i686"
  RPM_ARCH="i386"
  RPM_OS="linux"
  export RPM_SOURCE_DIR RPM_BUILD_DIR RPM_OPT_FLAGS RPM_ARCH RPM_OS
  RPM_DOC_DIR="/usr/share/doc"
  export RPM_DOC_DIR
  RPM_PACKAGE_NAME="postgresql"
  RPM_PACKAGE_VERSION="8.2.11"
  RPM_PACKAGE_RELEASE="1"
  export RPM_PACKAGE_NAME RPM_PACKAGE_VERSION RPM_PACKAGE_RELEASE
  
RPM_BUILD_ROOT="/home/peter.hopfgartner/rpmbuild/tmp/postgresql-8.2.11-1-root"
  export RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 
 
  set -x
  umask 022
  cd /home/peter.hopfgartner/rpmbuild/BUILD
cd postgresql-8.2.11

CFLAGS="${CFLAGS:--O2 -g -march=i386 -mcpu=i686}" ; export CFLAGS
CXXFLAGS="${CXXFLAGS:--O2 -g -march=i386 -mcpu=i686}" ; export CXXFLAGS

# Strip out -ffast-math from CFLAGS
CFLAGS=`echo $CFLAGS|xargs -n 1|grep -v ffast-math|xargs -n 100`


  CFLAGS="${CFLAGS:--O2 -g -march=i386 -mcpu=i686}" ; export CFLAGS ;
  CXXFLAGS="${CXXFLAGS:--O2 -g -march=i386 -mcpu=i686}" ; export CXXFLAGS ;
  FFLAGS="${FFLAGS:--O2 -g -march=i386 -mcpu=i686}" ; export FFLAGS ;
  ./configure --host=i686-redhat-linux-gnu --build=i686-redhat-linux-gnu \
--target=i386-redhat-linux \
--program-prefix= \
 --prefix=/usr \
--exec-prefix=/usr \
--bindir=/usr/bin \
--sbindir=/usr/sbin \
--sysconfdir=/etc \
--datadir=/usr/share \
--includedir=/usr/include \
--libdir=/usr/lib \
--libexecdir=/usr/libexec \
--localstatedir=/var \
--sharedstatedir=/usr/com \
--mandir=/usr/share/man \
--infodir=/usr/share/info --disable-rpath \
--with-perl \
--with-tcl \
--with-tclconfig=/usr/lib \
--with-python \
--with-openssl \
--with-pam \
--with-krb5 \
--enable-nls \
--enable-thread-safety \
--sysconfdir=/etc/sysconfig/pgsql \
--datadir=/usr/share/pgsql \
--with-docdir=/usr/share/doc

make  all
make  -C contrib all
make  -C contrib/xml2 all

# Have to hack makefile to put correct path into tutorial scripts
sed "s|C=\`pwd\`;|C=/usr/lib/pgsql/tutorial;|" < src/tutorial/Makefile > 
src/tutorial/GNUmakefile
make  -C src/tutorial NO_PGXS=1 all
rm -f src/tutorial/GNUmakefile

pushd src/test/regress
make all
make MAX_CONNECTIONS=5 check
make clean
popd

pushd src/test/regress
make RPMTESTING=1 all
popd

   PYTHON=/usr/bin/python
   python_version=`${PYTHON} -c "import sys; print sys.version[:3]"`
   python_prefix=`${PYTHON} -c "import sys; print sys.prefix"`
   python_includespec="-I${python_prefix}/include/python${python_version}"

   pushd PyGreSQL

   gcc $CFLAGS -fpic -shared -o _pgmodule.so ${python_includespec} 
-I../src/interfaces/libpq -I../src/include -L../src/interfaces/libpq 
-lpq pgmodule.c

   popd

   pushd Pgtcl
   # pgtcl's configure only handles one include directory :-(
   ./configure --prefix=/usr \
 --libdir=/usr/lib \
 --with-tcl=/usr/lib \
 --with-postgres-include="../src/interfaces/libpq -I../src/include" \
 --with-postgres-lib=../src/interfaces/libpq
   # note: as of pgtcl 1.5.2, its makefile is not parallel-safe
   make all
   popd

exit 0

Does anybody have any hint how to proceed?

Regards,

Peter

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Re: [CentOS] SSH login to centos

[Gopinath Achari]

Thank you all. the problem is solved. There was a reverse lookup done.

On Monday 15 December 2008 15:57, John R Pierce wrote:
> Gopinath Achari wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > SSH login to Centos 5.2 (Fresh installed) system takes a long 
> > time,
> > what is the problem. anyone aware of this
>
> I've seen that happen when reverse DNS is messed up.
>
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Re: [CentOS] Problems compiling PostgreSQL package from FC8 on CentOS 5

[John R Pierce]

Pintér Tibor wrote:
> http://yum.pgsqlrpms.org/reporpms/repoview/pgdg-centos.html
>   

and, I might add, read the HOWTO and stuff here
http://yum.pgsqlrpms.org/howtoyum.php



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[CentOS] sendmail Deferred mail - reason unknown

[Sean Carolan]

I'm a bit baffled by this problem.  Maybe there's a sendmail guru out there
who can help me out here.  We have some end-users who need to receive
system-generated mail that originates from a java-based application on our
network.  The java app sends the mail through our sendmail cluster, which
then sends the email on to the end-user over the Internet.  The size of the
emails can range from a few kb up through around 2Mb in size.

The mail logs show that these emails are typically delayed for up to 24
hours, sometimes longer.  It appears that several attempts to deliver the
email are made, with each unsuccessful one showing "Deferred" status in the
maillog.  After several hours of failed attempts the mail finally goes
through successfully.  Here is a typical entry (customer name redacted):

exmx1 : Dec 14 05:28:39 exmx1 sendmail[31574]: mBDIYhEa031574: to=<
custo...@example.com>, delay=00:00:00, xde
lay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=41874, relay=mail.example.com., dsn=4.0.0,
stat=Deferred

Unfortunately there is no reason given for the "Deferred" status such as
"Server unavailable", etc.

Do you have any ideas how I can begin to troubleshoot this?
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Re: [CentOS] sendmail Deferred mail - reason unknown

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"I'm a bit baffled by this problem.  Maybe there's a sendmail guru out
there who can help me out here.  We have some end-users who need to
receive system-generated mail that originates from a java-based
application on our network.  The java app sends the mail through our
sendmail cluster, which then sends the email on to the end-user over
the Internet.  The size of the emails can range from a few kb up
through around 2Mb in size."

I should probably add that each of these emails has an attached file,
which accounts for the large size of the emails.  Also, sorry if my
previous email was sent in HTML format, I think I might have had "rich
text" turned on in Gmail.
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Re: [CentOS] Centos4: USB disk standby?

[Rainer Traut]

Hi Christoph,

Am 15.12.2008 11:06, schrieb Christoph Neuhaus:
> Hi Rainer,
>
>> When the external disk is mounted, it does not go into
>> standby/sleep/whatever, though I'm using it only for 30minutes at night.
>>
>> Is there a way to do this with C4, 2.6.9-78.0.8.ELsmp?
>> E.g. unmount/some special command/upgrade to 5.2?
>
> man sg_start (part of the sg3_utils package). For a Western Digital MyBook
> I use:
>sg_start 0 --pc=3 /dev/sda

that's exactly what I was looking for, have the same WD drive here.

I'm not in front of the server so I can only presume by the time it 
takes to mount/access - it does only standby when the filesystem is not 
mounted?

Thx
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Re: [CentOS] SSH login to centos

[John R Pierce]

Gopinath Achari wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>   SSH login to Centos 5.2 (Fresh installed) system takes a long 
> time, what is 
> the problem. anyone aware of this
>   


I've seen that happen when reverse DNS is messed up.


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[CentOS] CentOS 5 Dom0 doesn't start all DomU images

[Devraj Mukherjee]

Hello all,

I have a CentOS Dom0 booting CentOS DomU, I am able to start multiple
DomUs from the command line using xm create, but if I copy the
configuration files to /etc/xen/auto only one of the DomUs seem to
start up automatically.

Has anyone experienced anything similar before?

Any pointers / hints?

Thanks.

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[CentOS] SSH login to centos

[Gopinath Achari]

Hi all,

SSH login to Centos 5.2 (Fresh installed) system takes a long 
time, what is 
the problem. anyone aware of this

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Re: [CentOS] Centos4: USB disk standby?

[Christoph Neuhaus]

> I'm not in front of the server so I can only presume by the time it
> takes to mount/access - it does only standby when the filesystem is not
> mounted?

No, the drive goes immediately to standby mode even if the partitions are  
mounted. When you access a directory or a file the drive is brought back  
online automatically.
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Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2008:1028 Moderate CentOS 3 ia64 cups
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CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2008:1028

https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2008-1028.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently
syncing to the mirrors:

ia64:
updates/ia64/RPMS/cups-1.1.17-13.3.55.ia64.rpm
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Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2008:1021 Moderate CentOS 3 ia64
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CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2008:1021

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CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2008:1021

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s390:
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Re: [CentOS] sendmail Deferred mail - reason unknown

[Toby Bluhm]

Sean Carolan wrote:
> "I'm a bit baffled by this problem.  Maybe there's a sendmail guru out
> there who can help me out here.  We have some end-users who need to
> receive system-generated mail that originates from a java-based
> application on our network.  The java app sends the mail through our
> sendmail cluster, which then sends the email on to the end-user over
> the Internet.  The size of the emails can range from a few kb up
> through around 2Mb in size."
> 
> I should probably add that each of these emails has an attached file,
> which accounts for the large size of the emails.  Also, sorry if my
> previous email was sent in HTML format, I think I might have had "rich
> text" turned on in Gmail.


just a WAG from notta guru . . .

Perhaps someone has a greylist filter running & your outbound emails 
look different enough to trigger it every time. They could whitelist you 
as a fix.


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Re: [CentOS] sendmail Deferred mail - reason unknown

[Kai Schaetzl]

Sean Carolan wrote on Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:15:15 -0600:

> Do you have any ideas how I can begin to troubleshoot this?

sendmail -v -q (will flush the mail queue, just wait and look).
First reason I would think of: greylisting.

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Re: [CentOS] sendmail Deferred mail - reason unknown

[jkinz]

On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:15:15AM -0600, Sean Carolan wrote:
> exmx1 : Dec 14 05:28:39 exmx1 sendmail[31574]: mBDIYhEa031574: to=<
> custo...@example.com>, delay=00:00:00, xde
> lay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=41874, relay=mail.example.com., dsn=4.0.0,
> stat=Deferred
> 
> Unfortunately there is no reason given for the "Deferred" status such as
> "Server unavailable", etc.
> 
> Do you have any ideas how I can begin to troubleshoot this?

Hi Sean,
Two suggestions, 
#1 - turn your sendmail logging/debugging setting up as high as
it will go for just long enough to capture some of these events.
(then turn it back to its previous setting)

#2 - try using script and then telnet to capture an SMTP session
(Done by hand) with the MTA at the receiving end.  This can be a
little tricky and requires a good understanding of how SMTP
transactions are done so you can emulate it by hand.

I would focus on hat the receiving end does when you send it a
length that is > 1 MB.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS Bug Reporting Policy

[Hywel Richards]

Phil Schaffner wrote:
> Looks a lot like
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=458861
> that is marked "Status: RELEASE_PENDING", so one might expect a fix in 5.3.
>
> Added a note to the CentOS BZ and a link to CentOS to the upstream BZ.
>
>   

Thanks Phil, that is good news indeed!

Hywel.
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Re: [CentOS] sendmail Deferred mail - reason unknown

[Sean Carolan]

> #1 - turn your sendmail logging/debugging setting up as high as
> it will go for just long enough to capture some of these events.
> (then turn it back to its previous setting)
>
> #2 - try using script and then telnet to capture an SMTP session
> (Done by hand) with the MTA at the receiving end.  This can be a
> little tricky and requires a good understanding of how SMTP
> transactions are done so you can emulate it by hand.

Thank you all for the suggestions, I think we may have pinned down the
problem.  This list is a great resource, props to all the experienced
users who put in time answering questions here.  :)
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Re: [CentOS] GNOME + Firefox - Mouse froze - what key combination to revive?

[Phil Schaffner]

Lanny Marcus wrote:
...
> Thanks for that information. It happened again, awhile ago. I was
> using Gmail online, with Firefox, as I'm now doing, and the mouse just
> became inactive. I had to kill the power again, which is a horribly
> inelegant way to get out of that.

Lanny,

Have you tried to ssh in from another system?  Sometimes that works even 
with the keyboard/mouse totally frozen.  If so you could "telinit 3 / 
telinit 5" or reboot with a bit more elegance.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS PPC architecture support

[Stewart Williams]

Karanbir Singh wrote:
> Stewart Williams wrote:
>> I have a system with a PowerPC cpu which I'd like to run CentOS on in a
>> production environment (albeit for a home personal server.)
>>
>> Does anyone know if the CentOS team are actually going to support PPC?
> 
> yes
> 
>> I have found a page which states release 4 is in beta[1]. But little else.
>> Is there lack of demand for support for this aging arch?
> 
> somewhat. About the same level of demand there is for CentOS s390
> 
>> Is there a lack of volunteers?
>>
>> I'd be willing to test the releases and bug report, or help out in
>> anyway I can.
> 
> sounds good. What kind of a machine do you have ?

It's a Mac Mini G4 currently running Fedora.

$ cat /proc/cpuinfo

processor   : 0
cpu : 7447A, altivec supported
clock   : 1333.28MHz
revision: 0.5 (pvr 8003 0105)
bogomips: 82.94
timebase: 41600571
platform: PowerMac
model   : PowerMac10,2
machine : PowerMac10,2
motherboard : PowerMac10,2 MacRISC3 Power Macintosh
detected as : 287 (Unknown Intrepid-based)
pmac flags  : 
L2 cache: 512K unified
pmac-generation : NewWorld

AFAIK this is a 32-bit CPU.

> 
>> Fedora has good support, however, I don't really want to update the
>> system often.
>>
>> [1] http://www.centos.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=65
> 
> You should be clear that there is no real 'ppc' support in EL at all, 
> they only support a ppc64 based cpu. However, ppc support is something 
> that I plan on getting into CentOS. Timeline ? perhaps in sync with 5.3

Ah. I did not realise that. I assumed they supported both.

As I said, I'd be glad to help in anyway I can. s390 is something I've 
always mean't to get into too, running under hercules; but never got 
round to it yet.
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Re: [CentOS] sendmail Deferred mail - reason unknown

[Bob Hoffman]

 


The mail logs show that these emails are typically delayed for up to
24 hours, sometimes longer.  It appears that several attempts to deliver the
email are made, with each unsuccessful one showing "Deferred" status in the
maillog.  After several hours of failed attempts the mail finally goes
through successfully.  Here is a typical entry (customer name redacted):

exmx1 : Dec 14 05:28:39 exmx1 sendmail[31574]: mBDIYhEa031574:
to=, delay=00:00:00, xde
lay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=41874, relay=mail.example.com.,
dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred

Unfortunately there is no reason given for the "Deferred" status
such as "Server unavailable", etc.  

I would imagine this is a hotmail or yahoo account or something along those
lines.
Deferred does not usually mean bounced or turned into spam, it is more of a
way of making the user wait for their mail. Yahoo can hold mail for a long
time, minutes to hours, before they deliver.

If you keep resending the deferred mail, you may end up getting auto junked
though.
In my minds eye, they are just trying to get people to upgrade as then as if
by magic, mail to them does not get deferred.

But in my experience, all deferred mail is usually sent, as far as I know.
Just 'deferred' for a bit.  




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[CentOS] OT supermicro server chassis?

[Gordon McLellan]

Does anyone have a supermicro 942i server chassis?   I'm trying to
figure out if it has a true nine 5.25" drive bays, or if the one
occupied by the 3.5" caddy is special / crippled.

What I want to do is install three of the supermicro 5x3 hot swap
backplanes and I'm gunshy about buying one site unseen.

Thanks!

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Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.2 yum check-update fails - repo change?

[Dave Stevens]

On Saturday 13 December 2008 03:32:20 am Kai Schaetzl wrote:
> Dave Stevens wrote on Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:32:51 -0800:
> > #baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/5/$basearch
> > mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=epel-5&arch=$
> >basearch
>
> Hm, not hardcoded then. I looked again at ftp://ftp.muug.mb.ca/mirror/
> The epel mirror is to be found in the hierarchy below fedora. That's why it
> looked to be absent.
> I don't think this is a problem on your end.

you must be right. I tried it again this am and everything "just works."

Thanks,

Dave

> If this problem persists, I'd contact them as there might be a problem.
> You could change to the baseurl instead for a while and then try again.
> I don't know a way to "exclude" certain mirrors.
>
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Re: [CentOS] OT supermicro server chassis?

[Monty Shinn]

Gordon McLellan wrote:
> Does anyone have a supermicro 942i server chassis?   I'm trying to
> figure out if it has a true nine 5.25" drive bays, or if the one
> occupied by the 3.5" caddy is special / crippled.
> 
> What I want to do is install three of the supermicro 5x3 hot swap
> backplanes and I'm gunshy about buying one site unseen.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
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Gordon,

Yes, it does have 9 bays available.  I have stuffed 4 of these chassis 
with 3 of the 5 bay hot-swappable SATA enclosures, which allows me to 
run around 11TB raid 50 (9.1TB formatted with XFS).  The 3.5" caddy 
slides out just like the spacers.

Can't be happier with the chassis/power supplies.

I have included a link below for a reference.

Good Luck.

Monty

http://www.wiredzone.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=30744293
http://www.wiredzone.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=10017099
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Re: [CentOS] sendmail Deferred mail - reason unknown

[Scott Silva]

on 12-15-2008 8:15 AM Sean Carolan spake the following:
> I'm a bit baffled by this problem.  Maybe there's a sendmail guru out
> there who can help me out here.  We have some end-users who need to
> receive system-generated mail that originates from a java-based
> application on our network.  The java app sends the mail through our
> sendmail cluster, which then sends the email on to the end-user over the
> Internet.  The size of the emails can range from a few kb up through
> around 2Mb in size. 
> 
> The mail logs show that these emails are typically delayed for up to 24
> hours, sometimes longer.  It appears that several attempts to deliver
> the email are made, with each unsuccessful one showing "Deferred" status
> in the maillog.  After several hours of failed attempts the mail finally
> goes through successfully.  Here is a typical entry (customer name
> redacted):
> 
> exmx1 : Dec 14 05:28:39 exmx1 sendmail[31574]: mBDIYhEa031574:
> to= >,
> delay=00:00:00, xde
> lay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=41874, relay=mail.example.com
> ., dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred
> 
> Unfortunately there is no reason given for the "Deferred" status such as
> "Server unavailable", etc. 
> 
> Do you have any ideas how I can begin to troubleshoot this?
> 
Does the machine have good dns resolution?
Are the clocks synced to a proper time.. (IE... local time is +8 but the clock
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Re: [CentOS] sendmail Deferred mail - reason unknown

[Scott Silva]

on 12-15-2008 12:01 PM Bob Hoffman spake the following:
>  
> 
>   
>   The mail logs show that these emails are typically delayed for up to
> 24 hours, sometimes longer.  It appears that several attempts to deliver the
> email are made, with each unsuccessful one showing "Deferred" status in the
> maillog.  After several hours of failed attempts the mail finally goes
> through successfully.  Here is a typical entry (customer name redacted):
>   
>   exmx1 : Dec 14 05:28:39 exmx1 sendmail[31574]: mBDIYhEa031574:
> to=, delay=00:00:00, xde
>   lay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=41874, relay=mail.example.com.,
> dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred
>   
>   Unfortunately there is no reason given for the "Deferred" status
> such as "Server unavailable", etc.  
> 
> I would imagine this is a hotmail or yahoo account or something along those
> lines.
Not necessarily

> Deferred does not usually mean bounced or turned into spam, it is more of a
> way of making the user wait for their mail. Yahoo can hold mail for a long
> time, minutes to hours, before they deliver.
Any MTA can defer mail. It doesn't need to be a big bulk provider.
> 
> If you keep resending the deferred mail, you may end up getting auto junked
> though.
> In my minds eye, they are just trying to get people to upgrade as then as if
> by magic, mail to them does not get deferred.
Like I said, not necessarily...

> 
> But in my experience, all deferred mail is usually sent, as far as I know.
> Just 'deferred' for a bit.
Servers defer mail for many reasons. The message could exceed a size limit
that makes it wait until a certain time.

The server could be over a set load average. It will need to flush its queue
and wait until the load comes down.

It could be greylisting, but I have never seen greylisting set this high.

It could be under a DDOS attack, which makes the server stop listening for a
while.

A log entry with deferred with no other message is probably connection
related. Maybe the mail server is on a small pipe with most of the bandwitth
being used for other reasons at that moment.

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Re: [CentOS] sendmail Deferred mail - reason unknown

[Bob Hoffman]

 
> 
> There are more reasons than a conspiracy to get you to pay a 
> subscription...
> 
True, but in most or almost all, it is not your sendmail or your server that
has anything to do with it. A bounce would indicate a problem or other
things...but 'defer' could mean anything. I get a lot from yahoo, both with
the stupid ID things and one server without them. They can defer for a
while.

I seldom get a defer from anywhere else, but a mailout of a large list could
get some.

But I see nothing you can do at your end if you are sending it other than
sending a letter to the deferring agent if you have the email, you know who
it is. If it is a big company like yahoo or hotmail, I would just send a
letter to the recipient and tell them about the issue so they can expect a
delay.

Anyone notice how little junk snail mail they are getting now? Or how many
snuggie blanket ads they are receiving via emailstrange world out there.

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[CentOS] Emailing jpeg images with Evolution 2.8.0

[Andrew Allen]

I recently emailed an important jpeg image to a colleague, but when he
tried to insert it into a document it 'failed'. It appears that when
jpegs are attached to messages, they become 'corrupted' - is this a
known problem with evolution, and/or is there a way of solving the
problem?

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Re: [CentOS] sendmail Deferred mail - reason unknown

[Scott Silva]

on 12-15-2008 2:12 PM Bob Hoffman spake the following:
>  
>> There are more reasons than a conspiracy to get you to pay a 
>> subscription...
>>
> True, but in most or almost all, it is not your sendmail or your server that
> has anything to do with it. A bounce would indicate a problem or other
> things...but 'defer' could mean anything. I get a lot from yahoo, both with
> the stupid ID things and one server without them. They can defer for a
> while.
> 
> I seldom get a defer from anywhere else, but a mailout of a large list could
> get some.
> 
> But I see nothing you can do at your end if you are sending it other than
> sending a letter to the deferring agent if you have the email, you know who
> it is. If it is a big company like yahoo or hotmail, I would just send a
> letter to the recipient and tell them about the issue so they can expect a
> delay.
> 
> Anyone notice how little junk snail mail they are getting now? Or how many
> snuggie blanket ads they are receiving via emailstrange world out there.
Bulk mail is still expensive, and it is easier for the scammers to send e-mail
then to try and get a bulk mail piece past the postal inspectors.

Looking at my stats for the year, At the beginning of 2008 I was rejecting (at
MTA) less than half a million messages a month. Now it is over 2 million a
month. That is pre-processing rejections on a system with less than a hundred
people on it. I can imagine what you ISP level guys are dumping!



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Re: [CentOS] sendmail Deferred mail - reason unknown

[Sean Carolan]

>
> But I see nothing you can do at your end if you are sending it other than
> sending a letter to the deferring agent if you have the email, you know who
> it is. If it is a big company like yahoo or hotmail, I would just send a
> letter to the recipient and tell them about the issue so they can expect a
> delay.

It's not a big webmail provider, just a smaller company.  I suspect it
might have to do with the large attachments, or their mail servers
getting overloaded.
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Re: [CentOS] Any way to reduce CPU use of OpenSSH?

[Florin Andrei]

Steve Snyder wrote:
> On my CentOS v5.2 server (dual Pentium4) the OpenSSH daemon stands out 
> as being the most CPU-intensive of the

Wow, you must be sending terabytes of stuff through ssh. :-)

Assuming the request is legit:

1. Disable compression if you don't need it.

2. Try another crypto protocol. Years ago, when this problem was real 
:-) (sorry, no offense), I used to force blowfish instead of whatever 
crypto was default back then, and it produced a significant decrease of 
CPU usage on those Pentium II processors.

ssh -c blowfish-cbc hostname

I don't know which protocol is fastest nowadays, but I guess you can do 
a quick test and find out.

There might be some security implications for using a different crypto 
protocol, but you need to figure that out yourself.

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Re: [CentOS] sendmail Deferred mail - reason unknown

[Bob Hoffman]

 


> 
> It's not a big webmail provider, just a smaller company.  I 
> suspect it might have to do with the large attachments, or 
> their mail servers getting overloaded.

I really wish they would come up with a few things..

1- A real all in one really well programmed email system for linux and
windows. Something highly customizable and does
sending/receive/pop/transfer/etc without all the nightmares.
Not having a degree in all the mail programs makes it hard to not make
mistakes the more stuff you try to do.

2- As part of that, finally do away with the whole apa...@myserver thing for
web apps. Along with a nice way for php and asp to access it safely instead
of having to use smtp via some OOP thingee.

3- paid program option with id like sslmail would be awesome. Especially to
get through the junk that many big free mail companies and isps put in our
way, as well as making their life easier. Since it is ssl cert., they should
be able to come after you if you are a spammer or phisher. Also, it would
get rid of the senderID,spf, etc junk they are trying to push on us.

4- so, santa, that is what I would wish for. I know...not gonna happen.

Ever notice the bulk of spam mail is either gibberish or hawking a product
like a drug or well known name brand? Me thinks maybe that big business has
it all set up..flood with gibberish and flood with their name brand junk..
Makes it look like lots of spammers when it is probably just a few large
conglomerates.

(uh oh, they might have heard me)

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Re: [CentOS] Emailing jpeg images with Evolution 2.8.0

[Kai Schaetzl]

Andrew Allen wrote on Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:24:52 +:

> I recently emailed an important jpeg image to a colleague, but when he
> tried to insert it into a document it 'failed'. It appears that when
> jpegs are attached to messages, they become 'corrupted' - is this a
> known problem with evolution, and/or is there a way of solving the
> problem?

I'm missing a crucial part here: verification. He received the mail and he 
"inserted" it. Well, there's no mention that he saved it and *looked* at 
it. How do you know that it was corrupted *before* "insertion"?

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Re: [CentOS] sendmail Deferred mail - reason unknown

[Scott Silva]

on 12-15-2008 2:55 PM Bob Hoffman spake the following:
>  
> 
> 
>> It's not a big webmail provider, just a smaller company.  I 
>> suspect it might have to do with the large attachments, or 
>> their mail servers getting overloaded.
> 
> I really wish they would come up with a few things..
> 
> 1- A real all in one really well programmed email system for linux and
> windows. Something highly customizable and does
> sending/receive/pop/transfer/etc without all the nightmares.
> Not having a degree in all the mail programs makes it hard to not make
> mistakes the more stuff you try to do.
> 
> 2- As part of that, finally do away with the whole apa...@myserver thing for
> web apps. Along with a nice way for php and asp to access it safely instead
> of having to use smtp via some OOP thingee.
> 
> 3- paid program option with id like sslmail would be awesome. Especially to
> get through the junk that many big free mail companies and isps put in our
> way, as well as making their life easier. Since it is ssl cert., they should
> be able to come after you if you are a spammer or phisher. Also, it would
> get rid of the senderID,spf, etc junk they are trying to push on us.
> 
> 4- so, santa, that is what I would wish for. I know...not gonna happen.
> 
> Ever notice the bulk of spam mail is either gibberish or hawking a product
> like a drug or well known name brand? Me thinks maybe that big business has
> it all set up..flood with gibberish and flood with their name brand junk..
> Makes it look like lots of spammers when it is probably just a few large
> conglomerates.
> 
> (uh oh, they might have heard me)

The big conglomerates spam you with TV and print ads, and junk in your postal
mail box. I would suspect most of the spam is actually fake or illegal
products or knockoffs that they couldn't legitimately sell in any traditional
retail system, or attempts to get your credit card numbers for illegal uses.

The retail police have been dispatched to your residence because of your
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Re: [CentOS] Emailing jpeg images with Evolution 2.8.0

[MHR]

On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Andrew Allen  wrote:
> I recently emailed an important jpeg image to a colleague, but when he
> tried to insert it into a document it 'failed'. It appears that when
> jpegs are attached to messages, they become 'corrupted' - is this a
> known problem with evolution, and/or is there a way of solving the
> problem?
>

You should try asking on the Evolution mailing list, although they're
up to 2.24.1 already and we're not going to see that in CentOS before
6.0, most likely.

http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

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Re: [CentOS] sendmail Deferred mail - reason unknown

[Les Mikesell]

Bob Hoffman wrote:
>  
> 
> 
>> It's not a big webmail provider, just a smaller company.  I 
>> suspect it might have to do with the large attachments, or 
>> their mail servers getting overloaded.
> 
> I really wish they would come up with a few things..
> 
> 1- A real all in one really well programmed email system for linux and
> windows. Something highly customizable and does
> sending/receive/pop/transfer/etc without all the nightmares.
> Not having a degree in all the mail programs makes it hard to not make
> mistakes the more stuff you try to do.

Look at SME server from http://www.contribs.org.  Answer a few questions 
during the install, add users with a simple web form, and it works.  It 
has webmail too.

> 2- As part of that, finally do away with the whole apa...@myserver thing for
> web apps. Along with a nice way for php and asp to access it safely instead
> of having to use smtp via some OOP thingee.

SME server has some of that too - and there are an assortment of 
contributed add-ins.   However the extent that it is already customized 
makes it harder to make your own local changes if you do need any.

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[CentOS] utility to find which /dev/videoX

[Jerry Geis]

is there a utility or SOME method to
determine which /dev/videoX (like /dev/video0 or /dev/video1)
is being used by a device???

Example I have a USB camera and a USB TV module
how do I determine which device is on /dev/video0 and which is on
/dev/video1

I have seen perhaps a way in dmesg but I am looking for the
BEST way and the correct way.

Thanks,

Jerry
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Re: [CentOS] utility to find which /dev/videoX

[Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams]

On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 19:32 -0500, Jerry Geis wrote:
> is there a utility or SOME method to
> determine which /dev/videoX (like /dev/video0 or /dev/video1)
> is being used by a device???
> 
> Example I have a USB camera and a USB TV module
> how do I determine which device is on /dev/video0 and which is on
> /dev/video1
> 
> I have seen perhaps a way in dmesg but I am looking for the
> BEST way and the correct way.

Look under /sys/class/video4linux.

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[CentOS] kontact request

[Gopinath Achari]

Hi All, 

I am using kontact (internally uses kmail) as mail 
client. when i receive 
attachments  in mail. its displayed in smart format as default. How can i set 
inline as default. any idea on this option.

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Re: [CentOS] utility to find which /dev/videoX

[Rob Townley]

Not sure this helps b/c maybe u need a non human interactive method.

mplayer /dev/video0

lsusb -v

On 12/15/08, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams  wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 19:32 -0500, Jerry Geis wrote:
>> is there a utility or SOME method to
>> determine which /dev/videoX (like /dev/video0 or /dev/video1)
>> is being used by a device???
>>
>> Example I have a USB camera and a USB TV module
>> how do I determine which device is on /dev/video0 and which is on
>> /dev/video1
>>
>> I have seen perhaps a way in dmesg but I am looking for the
>> BEST way and the correct way.
>
> Look under /sys/class/video4linux.
>
> --
> Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams 
>
> PLEASE don't CC me; I'm already subscribed
>
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[CentOS] Kerberos for squid auth

[Joseph L. Casale]

When you use kinit to acquire a Kerberos ticket prior to
joining a Win2k3 domain with net ads join -U  is that
ticket merely used for the join that follows? When it expires
does this mean anything?

Thanks,
jlc
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