Re: [CentOS] You didn't give me some packages, so now I'm giving you some! R, TexLive, LyX, Gnumeric, etc.

2008-07-29 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Paul Johnson wrote:
> I do want up-to-date applications that people here actually use, like
> LaTeX, Emacs, R, Gnumeric, and the other ones I can provide.  If I
> can't get those from EPEL or rpmforge or wherever,  I'm willing to
> build those packages.

EPEL (and CentOS, to a certain point) are a bit reluctant to offer newer
packages of applications which are in the product itself (Emacs, LaTeX
in this case). Yes, I know that there's centosplus and that contains
code where the itching got that strong that someone actually started to
scratch. 

There's no real process of getting your packages into CentOS at the
moment, rpmrepo is still "finding itself", so my advice would be to
offer those packages (and maintenance) to rpmforge, which will be in
rpmrepo once that is up. See . Getting it
in there also will help people with Scientific Linux or other
distributions.

Does that answer some of the questions? 

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.0 package updater asking me to update more than I installed

2008-07-29 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Mark Walker wrote on Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:58:37 -0700:

> When I get the list of packages to be updated, there are things that I 
> don't recognize having installed.

Nevertheless, they probably *are* installed. There's a lot been installed 
during setup and because of dependencies. rpm -q packagename tells you 
more.

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Re: [CentOS] smartd on RAID controllers?

2008-07-29 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Rainer Duffner wrote on Tue, 29 Jul 2008 00:46:58 +0200:

> It's know for consuming some CPU.

A-h-a.

> But taking a quick look on the support site (HP.com -> Support/Drivers- 
>  >Servers->Proliant->DL>140>G3),

tried that, I just reach the same "arena" "Download drivers and software
- HP ProLiant DL140 G3 Server series" that I know. I have a shortcut for 
that here ;-)

> I see that they consider your DL140 a  
> bit too small to support with all tools.
> 
> Normally, something like the HP Array Diagnostics utility would do the  
> job, but alas: "HP ProLiant 100-series customers:  Because the HP  
> System Management Homepage software is not supported for use with HP  
> ProLiant 100-series servers, the Array Diagnostics Utility for Linux  
> cannot be installed."

How did you get that? I can't find a statement like that anywhere. Not 
with release notes, installations instructions, not even here:
ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softlib2/software1/pubsw-
linux/p1174222445/v47112/hpadu-8.10-3.noarch.txt

Anyway, the point about this is that the DL140 by itself does not have 
"real" RAID controllers, they seem to be fake RAID ones. That's why the 
software is not supposed to work on them. However, it can also be shipped 
with a "real" RAID PCI card. That is what I have, they call it "HP 4/8 
Port HBA Controller" or something. I don't know why but they refuse to 
give it a "real" name. However, support told me that the "HP Array" 
utilities are not supposed to work on that either, they are only supposed 
to work on internal controllers (and the readme doesn't list this 
controller, either). 
So, which way you look at it, there's a black hole ;-)
I'm gonna live without smart for that machine.

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Re: [CentOS] /etc/hosts missing localhost?

2008-07-29 Thread kapil singh
Hello,
what about your postgresql settings ?
are you creating a role for connecting to postgres ?
if not creat role:

# /etc/init.d/postgresql restart
#su - postgres

(try to connecting here using your command psql -h, if it connects)
now,
(run command for creating role and setting up priviledges for other users.)

#creatuser -U postgres -P

...
...
edit the file /var/lib/pgsql/data/pg_hba.conf

and at the last lines it looks like:
# TYPE  DATABASEUSERCIDR-ADDRESS  METHOD

# "local" is for Unix domain socket connections only
local   all all   trust
# IPv4 local connections:
hostall all 127.0.0.1/32  trust
# IPv6 local connections:
hostall all ::1/128   ident sameuser

Good Luck


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[CentOS] Bug Policy [was Re: Does sprof work on CentOS5?]

2008-07-29 Thread Hywel Richards

Hywel Richards wrote:
No matter how I try, I can't seem to get a library profile from sprof 
on CentOS5.


Does anyone know if sprof actually works on CentOS5? I'd be very 
interested to hear if anyone is using it successfully.


At the moment I'm trying something like this to get the dump:

   LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. LD_PROFILE=libmy.so ./mymain

where libmy.so is the library I want to profile, and mymain is the 
executable which links to it.


This appears to create the profile dump successfully (which appears at 
/var/tmp/libmy.so.profile), but when I try to get a readable profile 
using sprof it fails:


   $ sprof libmy.so /var/tmp/libmy.so.profile
   sprof: failed to load shared object `libmy.so'

I have a CentOS4 machine here, and doing the above on that works fine, 
but I've had no luck at all on CentOS5 (all currently up-to-date).


Can anyone help? (Please!)

Given that I can get this to work well on a CentOS4 machine, and I have 
tried lots of minor trivial changes to command-line, etc, but still fail 
on CentOS5, does anyone know what I can do or where I can go to progress 
this further?


My current guess is that it is a (probably very trivial) bug, although I 
recognise there still the possibility that this is simply a usage 
problem (however, if that is so, the usage since centos4 has clearly 
changed).


A more straightforward program I might have a go at debugging, but I 
don't feel competent on this one - sprof is part of the glibc package.


The glibc pages (http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/bugs.html) say that 
bugs should be reported to the distribution project first.


I would also be interested to know what the general policy is regarding 
what to do about bugs on Centos. I presume there is no way for people 
involved in centos to make changes directly, otherwise the distribution 
stops being a clone, so bugs/fixes on the centos bugzilla presumably get 
fed back to redhat at some point, and then eventually trickle down? (Is 
there a webpage somewhere explaining how this works? I know the FAQ 
states that there is no relationship with redhat, but surely they must 
exploit the bug reports somehow).


Anyway, should I report this on the CentOS bugzilla?
Would someone take it up if I did?
I assume that reporting it to redhat would be inappropriate.
If not centos, should I go on to report it to glibc?

Hywel.



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Re: [CentOS] smartd on RAID controllers?

2008-07-29 Thread Mogens Kjaer

Kai Schaetzl wrote:
...
Unfortunately, that didn't change anything. hpasmd is running, but 
hpasmcli just hangs when I try it out.


I run CentOS 5 on our old ML 370 G3 machines.

BigBrother is watching the machines, using /sbin/hplog from hpasm
to query the state of the fans, powersupplies and temperatures.

The state of the smart array RAID is monitored with array-info:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/array-info/

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Re: [CentOS] Bug Policy [was Re: Does sprof work on CentOS5?]

2008-07-29 Thread Tru Huynh
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:49:14AM +0100, Hywel Richards wrote:
> Given that I can get this to work well on a CentOS4 machine, and I have  
...
where did you generate your libmy.so? On a C3/4/5 box?

What gives (on c4 and c5):
ldd libmy.so

You may miss some compat libs.

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[CentOS] Restricting User Rights massively

2008-07-29 Thread Dirk H. Schulz

Hi folks,

is it possible to restrict the rights of a user to only do few, defined 
actions, e.g. only look up cpu and memory usage, but not walk around in the 
file system, not see any other hardware details, run any binaries/scripts? 
I know several different techniques to achieve parts of this (like 
chrooting him), but is there one technique to get it all?


Dirk


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Re: [CentOS] Restricting User Rights massively

2008-07-29 Thread Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 13:05 +0200, Dirk H. Schulz wrote:
> is it possible to restrict the rights of a user to only do few, defined 
> actions, e.g. only look up cpu and memory usage, but not walk around in the 
> file system, not see any other hardware details, run any binaries/scripts? 
> I know several different techniques to achieve parts of this (like 
> chrooting him), but is there one technique to get it all?

SELinux.

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Re: [CentOS] rebuilding firefox-2.0.0.16 from fc8

2008-07-29 Thread Johnny Hughes

Mark Pryor wrote:

hello,

I started with
ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/updates/8/SRPMS/firefox-2.0.0.16-1.fc8.src.rpm

with the hope of rebuilding it for el5/centos.

All of the dependencies were available (mostly from rpmforge) except one: 
something called system-bookmarks. I elected to comment out this from the spec, 
firefox.spec

I did the extracts with CPIO
rpm2cpio firefox-xxx.src.rpm | cpio -i firefox.spec
then i extracted everything else and copied it to my buildroot
~/redhat/SOURCES

then the moment of truth. I didn't see another way except to rebuild all so I 
did

rpmbuild -ba --sign ~/SPECS/firefox.spec


while the above worked, it took long enough that I was able to go to dinner and 
have a beer before it finished. On top of that, thermal alarms went off as the 
CPU/PWM reached 57C/67C.

a new RPM, and src.RPM were written to the BR and the RPM (i386) works fine.

Was it necessary to do the complete build (-ba) since I only eliminated a 
single build-requires value?



-ba builds both the binary RPMs and the SRPM ...
-bb builds only the binary RPMs and does not build the SRPM.

that is the only difference.

The time required to build the SRPM is very minimal compared to the 
binary RPMs, so there is effectively no difference except for a new SRPM.


Firefox takes a while time to build on a dual processor (with quad core 
xeon processors, so 8 cores) and 15K SAS drives (20 minutes) ... it will 
certainly take longer on a normal workstation.


The real question is why are you building FF2 for CentOS now that it 
contains FF3 (3.0.1 currently) by default.




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Re: [CentOS] Re: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 61s!

2008-07-29 Thread Johnny Hughes

Scott Silva wrote:




I choose CentOS because I believe it is the most stable OS in
commodity machines.
But I don't know how to do when facing the trouble.

The difference lies in that I patched a PF_RING patch in original
kernel and recompiled
the kernel to run my machines. I wonder whether the patched kernel
crashes the CentOS
because PF_RING automatically downloads the kernel codes from
www.kernel.org, but not
the one from www.centos.org? Or, the centOS holds the bugs in its 
distribution?



When you use a custom kernel, you usually get to keep the pieces.

Go buy a new car and change the engine and then see if they honor the 
warranty.


We stopped using Dell machines some time ago. For some reason there 
reliability has been steadily falling. I don't know if they are doing 
non-standard stuff in their bios's or just using less than optimal 
hardware to cut costs, but I probably won't go back.


well ... my $work has been using dell exclusively for servers and 
workstations for 5 years.


I have had no real issues with either the poweredge servers or the 
desktops and Dell has always sent parts in a timely manner to replace 
any broken system under warranty.


We don't have too many servers (about 20 in 5 locations) or workstations 
(about 150 in 5 locations) but I have had no problem with Dell machines 
or their service ... maybe I am just lucky.


Thanks,
Johnny Hughes



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Re: [CentOS] Cannot boot from DVD on an Intel Svr to install CentOS 5.2

2008-07-29 Thread Johnny Hughes

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Finally after days of trial an error I got the origin of the problem and how to 
solve it.
I'm working from a Vista computer, so what I say here is related to this 
environment.
1. You have to download images (iso files) using FireFox web browser. Internet 
Explorer does not download them complete.
2. After downloading the image, download md5sum and checksum the file to be 
sure it was downloaded correctly. To do that, you have to open a command prompt 
in the folder where you downloaded the files and run the following command: 
md5sum centos-5.2-i386-bin-DVD.iso to generate the checksum number which you 
must compare to the one in the md5sum.txt that is found on the same site where 
you downloaded the files from.
3. Burn the DVD in a low speed (8x).

The above 3 steps must do the trick.

I hope it helps to some others new to CentOS.



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Re: [CentOS] Bug Policy [was Re: Does sprof work on CentOS5?]

2008-07-29 Thread Johnny Hughes

Hywel Richards wrote:

Hywel Richards wrote:
No matter how I try, I can't seem to get a library profile from sprof 
on CentOS5.


Does anyone know if sprof actually works on CentOS5? I'd be very 
interested to hear if anyone is using it successfully.


At the moment I'm trying something like this to get the dump:

   LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. LD_PROFILE=libmy.so ./mymain

where libmy.so is the library I want to profile, and mymain is the 
executable which links to it.


This appears to create the profile dump successfully (which appears at 
/var/tmp/libmy.so.profile), but when I try to get a readable profile 
using sprof it fails:


   $ sprof libmy.so /var/tmp/libmy.so.profile
   sprof: failed to load shared object `libmy.so'

I have a CentOS4 machine here, and doing the above on that works fine, 
but I've had no luck at all on CentOS5 (all currently up-to-date).


Can anyone help? (Please!)

Given that I can get this to work well on a CentOS4 machine, and I have 
tried lots of minor trivial changes to command-line, etc, but still fail 
on CentOS5, does anyone know what I can do or where I can go to progress 
this further?


My current guess is that it is a (probably very trivial) bug, although I 
recognise there still the possibility that this is simply a usage 
problem (however, if that is so, the usage since centos4 has clearly 
changed).


A more straightforward program I might have a go at debugging, but I 
don't feel competent on this one - sprof is part of the glibc package.


The glibc pages (http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/bugs.html) say that 
bugs should be reported to the distribution project first.


I would also be interested to know what the general policy is regarding 
what to do about bugs on Centos. I presume there is no way for people 
involved in centos to make changes directly, otherwise the distribution 
stops being a clone, so bugs/fixes on the centos bugzilla presumably get 
fed back to redhat at some point, and then eventually trickle down? (Is 
there a webpage somewhere explaining how this works? I know the FAQ 
states that there is no relationship with redhat, but surely they must 
exploit the bug reports somehow).


Anyway, should I report this on the CentOS bugzilla?
Would someone take it up if I did?
I assume that reporting it to redhat would be inappropriate.
If not centos, should I go on to report it to glibc?



http://lists4.suse.de/opensuse-bugs/2007-09/msg10980.html



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Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.0 package updater asking me to update more than I installed

2008-07-29 Thread Johnny Hughes

Kai Schaetzl wrote:

Mark Walker wrote on Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:58:37 -0700:

When I get the list of packages to be updated, there are things that I 
don't recognize having installed.


Nevertheless, they probably *are* installed. There's a lot been installed 
during setup and because of dependencies. rpm -q packagename tells you 
more.




These can all tell you more:

rpm -qa | sort > installed_rpms

then edit that file ... this is everything installed on you machine.

You can also look at the file named:  /root/install.log (that is what is 
installed by anaconda).


Just for the record, the absolutely minimal install you can do in 
centos-5 from the installer (if not using a special kickstart file) has 
169 RPM packages and is 670MB (and this install has no real gui software 
at all) ... my current workstation has 921 RPM packages installed, and 
there are 2458 RPM packages in the Base CentOS-5 OS repository.




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Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.0 package updater asking me to update more than I installed

2008-07-29 Thread Johnny Hughes

Mark Walker wrote:
Here's what I'm doing.  In the gui environment, gnome, there's a box in 
the upper right corner that reports about updates available every once 
in a while.  I click on it and I get something called "Package Updater" 
that lists the packages that can be updated according to the server, I 
believe yum, it's querying.  I'm not sure exactly what the Application 
name is, but that's what the title bar says.  Sorry, I'm not an expert 
on gnome, so I'm having trouble tracking down what the actual app is.  
My guess is that it's Yumex or some close relative.


When I get the list of packages to be updated, there are things that I 
don't recognize having installed.  For instance a package called 
"metacity," which apparently is a window manager.  I understand there 
could be dependencies that need to be installed, but that is usually 
dealt with after yum downloads and queries the actual packages isn't it?


No, yum works with you current package list and metadata ... it will 
include any dependencies in the initial calculation.  However, the 
output will show "Installed for Dependencies" in a separate section than 
the files it is going to update.




Is the main "Package Updater" designed to just give you the packages you 
installed or does it give you everything that's available from the 
server it's talking to?


Thanks.


MHR wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Mark Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
 
Is this the standard behavior?  Is there a way to only update the 
packages I

installed without deselecting the ones I don't want?




yum only updates packages that are installed, it does not update 
packages that are not installed (well .. it will install dependencies if 
required)




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[CentOS] 3ware 9650SE drivers for CentOS 5.0-EL kernel 2.6.18-8

2008-07-29 Thread Gert Vandenreyt
The reason I'm using kernel 2.6.18 is that it is the only long term 
support version available in the LTSP project. I think after an update I 
will get kernel 2.6.19.
The drivers available at the 3ware don't work, but I managed booting by 
compiling the driver myself in a vmware image.


Grz,

Gert.

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[CentOS] vendors that can supply CentOS pre-installed

2008-07-29 Thread Kevin C. Abbey
Hi,
 
I am looking for a vendor that can supply CentOS pre-installed on hardware as 
follows.
 
_
Phenom AMD X4 processor
8 Gb of memory
250Gb HD or better
dual-layer DVD writer
reasonably good graphics card
_
 
 
 
Please reply with a link to a list of vendors or anactual list and their 
contact info.
 
 
Thank you,
Kevin



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Re: [CentOS] Restricting User Rights massively

2008-07-29 Thread William L. Maltby

On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 13:05 +0200, Dirk H. Schulz wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> is it possible to restrict the rights of a user to only do few, defined 
> actions, e.g. only look up cpu and memory usage, but not walk around in the 
> file system, not see any other hardware details, run any binaries/scripts? 
> I know several different techniques to achieve parts of this (like 
> chrooting him), but is there one technique to get it all?

"Man bash". /-r and /RESTRICTED SHELL

It'll take a little setup to custom taylor it. Permissions, PATH and a
user or group specific bin directory (new one, not one of the standards)
in their PATH. Some copy/symlink (careful with that) of existing
executables may be useful.

Be careful with scripts made available. There is a caveat that
restrictions are removed when a script is being processed.

Carefully constructed .bashrc, bash_profile.

IMO, this is easier to setup than selinux, *may* meet all your needs and
will not be affected by upgrades.

> 
> Dirk
> 

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Re: [CentOS] Restricting User Rights massively

2008-07-29 Thread Sean Carolan
>
> IMO, this is easier to setup than selinux, *may* meet all your needs and
> will not be affected by upgrades.


I would agree with this.  Try just creating a user with "rbash" as his login
shell and then "sudo /bin/su - username".  Poke around and see what you are
able to do, and you'll find out if it meets your needs.  rbash is not as
secure as SELinux or creating a chroot environment but it is a whole lot
easier to set up.
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Re: [CentOS] Re: Duplicate PV on HW RAID?

2008-07-29 Thread Eduardo Grosclaude
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Scott Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The machine BIOS correctly describes the RAID volume at start. Doesn't It
>> smell like fake RAID?
>> Should I declare sdb invalid to the firmware program so as to force
>> resync?
>> Thanks again
>> --
>>
> It sure looks as if it was originally a mirrored set, but broke later,
> maybe a kernel update no longer supports that fakeraid controller.


Indeed. A reboot later, everything was a mess. I rebuilt the RAID and
repeated the install.

Found that Disk Druid correctly sees the only device (referred to as
/mapper/isw_[10 seemingly hex digits]_Volume0, everything goes completely as
expected.

However, at the next boot the installed kernel no longer believes there's a
single device there, and goes like this:

  No RAID sets and with names 'isw_[same digits]_Volume0'
  failed to stat() /dev/mapper/isw_[same digits]_Volume0
  ...EXT3-fs errors...
  ...mounts failed
  Kernel panic

My fault was not installing the proper Intel RAID driver for RHEL... the
regular kernel does not provide it.
Thanks very much for your help

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Re: [CentOS] smartd on RAID controllers?

2008-07-29 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Mogens Kjaer wrote on Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:14:16 +0200:

> BigBrother is watching the machines, using /sbin/hplog from hpasm
> to query the state of the fans, powersupplies and temperatures.

Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately, that hangs like hpasmcli is hanging. I 
may be missing something (kernel module, drivers?), but I don't know 
which. I didn't install any HP drivers as I prefer to use the CentOS 
drivers if they work. This way I can avoid any trouble when upgrading the 
kernel. Maybe I'm missing something this way? So far I only installed that 
extra hpasm package and the hp-OpenIPMI.
I can query sensors on the Dells with ipmitool, but this doesn't work on 
the HP, it can't find an ipmi device. 
A configure run of hpasm shows me "This server does not contain an hp 
Advanced Server Management Device.". That's probably the reason for the 
hang. However, there's a Lights Out BMC built-in and I can login to it. I 
didn't acquire licenses for virtual KVM and virtual media, but I think 
this shouldn't matter in this case.
Hah, got it. "service ipmi start" loads all ipmi modules (there was at 
least one missing before) and I get a read-out with ipmitool. hpasmcli and 
hplog still don't work. I think I will just forget about hpasm.

> 
> The state of the smart array RAID is monitored with array-info:
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/array-info

won't compile without docbook. But I think it won't work with the 
controller, anyway. I can get a reading with "mpt-status -i 1" for the 
RAID status (on both HP and Dell machines), but this doesn't include SMART 
(SMART as in Self-Monitoring, Analysis, and Reporting Technology, I think 
the "smart" in Smart Array refers to something different?).

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Re: [CentOS] Re: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 61s!

2008-07-29 Thread nate
Johnny Hughes wrote:

> We don't have too many servers (about 20 in 5 locations) or workstations
> (about 150 in 5 locations) but I have had no problem with Dell machines
> or their service ... maybe I am just lucky.

The company I'm at has about 380 dell servers and probably 100 desktops.
For the most part they work fine.

We did have a problem with firmware on Seagate drives that came in
the servers though. The company spent months trying to track down
the source of the problem before I was hired. It didn't take me too
long to narrow it down. The issue was multithreaded reads/writes
to the disk under their application was 10x slower on some systems
than others. Normal disk benchmark tools didn't pick up anything
unusual. And my co-workers said Dell support was worthless for
anything other than flat out RMA (I've never dealt with them so
can't say from personal experience). My experience with HP support
has been similar though, so I don't doubt it.

But I noticed pretty quick after I was hired that the systems that
had problems had Seagate drives, and the ones that did not had Maxtor,
or Fujitsu drives. Unfortunately upgrading the drive firmware was a
painful procedure involving booting to DOS. After updating the
problem was gone, of course.

Why some drives shipped with Maxtor, some with Fujitsu, and some with
Seagate drives I don't know(all the same model#). I've been told
that Dell has a history of swapping out components to whichever is
the cheapest that week, it seems that's the case at least with HDDs.

Never personally had a problem with firmware on a disk in my experience
with thousands of drives over the past 15 years or so. Not sure how
that got past Dell's "QA". Maybe it was a compatibility issue with
their RAID controller and that firmware rev on the disk.

I suppose the main thing I don't like about Dell that I did like
about the HP systems was being able to monitor the RAID array was
pretty simple with HP, we installed a tool called 'hpacucli', no
extra drivers needed, and it worked fine. With Dell the only tool
I've found is 'raidcfg', and that seems to require a bunch of extra
packages and drivers to be installed. And on at least a couple different
types of Dell systems it causes them to hang when I run it. I really
don't like installing "extra" drivers for management stuff. I never
installed the HP management packs, and don't plan to touch the Dell
stuff either(short of raidcfg and it's dependencies).

Dell doesn't seem to be too bad though, I honestly expected more
problems given the pricing of the systems. Some of the pricing
is even cheaper than a local Supermicro reseller, and I'm talking
low quantities even. One of my former employers switched to Dell
after they were bought out by a bigger company(bigger company's
policy) and they pay at least 50% less than we do.

I've only been working with them for a few months now.

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Re: [CentOS] Bug Policy [was Re: Does sprof work on CentOS5?]

2008-07-29 Thread Hywel Richards

Tru Huynh wrote:

where did you generate your libmy.so? On a C3/4/5 box?

What gives (on c4 and c5):
ldd libmy.so

You may miss some compat libs.

Tru
  


For the c4 test, I built it on c4, and for the c5 test I built it on c5.

Here are the outputs from ldd on the c4 and c5 boxes respectively:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ldd libmy.so
   libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0x00e45000)
   libm.so.6 => /lib/tls/libm.so.6 (0x00afd000)
   libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x00a8)
   libc.so.6 => /lib/tls/libc.so.6 (0x00267000)
   /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x00a48000)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ldd libmy.so
   linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0x009ce000)
   libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0x004e7000)
   libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x005fe000)
   libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x00eae000)
   libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x0011)
   /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x00908000)

The .so files work fine, it's only when I later run sprof to get the 
profile that I have any problem (on the c5 box).


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[CentOS] restore

2008-07-29 Thread Mad Unix
Am trying to do restore of control file on Linux Machine 64Bit CenTOS5.2, i
get the following

RMAN> restore controlfile;

Starting restore at 29-07-2008
using channel ORA_DISK_1

channel ORA_DISK_1: starting datafile backupset restore
channel ORA_DISK_1: restoring control file
channel ORA_DISK_1: reading from backup piece
/u01/oracle/product/10.2.0/db/dbs/c-2142365377-20080729-01
ORA-19870: error reading backup piece
/u01/oracle/product/10.2.0/db/dbs/c-2142365377-20080729-01
ORA-19505: failed to identify file
"/u01/oracle/product/10.2.0/db/dbs/c-2142365377-20080729-01"
ORA-27037: unable to obtain file status
Linux-x86_64 Error: 13: Permission denied
Additional information: 3
failover to previous backup

channel ORA_DISK_1: restoring control file
ORA-19625: error identifying file
/backup_rman/cont_backup/ctl_file_t661365316_s2103_p1
ORA-27047: unable to read the header block of file
Additional information: 2
ORA-19600: input file is control file
(/backup_rman/cont_backup/ctl_file_t661365316_s2103_p1)
ORA-19601: output file is control file
(/u01/oracle/oradata/sdc/control0.ctl)
failover to previous backup

- The control files has been transfered from AIX5.3 to a Linux Machine !!
- I checked the permissions, they are rw.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] cont_backup]$ ls -al
total 92272
drwxrwxrwx 2 oracle dba 4096 Jul 29 17:05 .
drwxrwxrwx 4 oracle dba 4096 Jul 29 17:10 ..
-rw-rw-rw- 1 oracle dba 17661952 Mar 19 19:14 ctl_file_t643581595_s1675_p1
-rw-rw-rw- 1 oracle dba 17661952 Mar 19 19:14 ctl_file_t648930789_s1833_p1
-rw-rw-rw- 1 oracle dba 19693568 Jul 29 04:26 ctl_file_t661285579_s2098_p1
-rw-rw-rw- 1 oracle dba 19693568 Jul 30  2008 ctl_file_t661357792_s2100_p1
-rw-rw-rw- 1 oracle dba 19644416 Jul 30  2008 ctl_file_t661365316_s2103_p1


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Re: [CentOS] Bug Policy [was Re: Does sprof work on CentOS5?]

2008-07-29 Thread Hywel Richards

Johnny Hughes wrote:


http://lists4.suse.de/opensuse-bugs/2007-09/msg10980.html



This looks like it might well be the same problem.

I guess the fact that this is in an OpenSUSE list suggests that it is a 
problem originating in glibc.


It's a little bit discouraging that the bug was entered so long ago and 
is still open.

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[CentOS] Xdefaults file.

2008-07-29 Thread James B. Byrne
I am trying to get my xterm window under gnome to open with large fonts,
with light green foreground and dark green background.  I have the
following .Xdefaults file contents:

$ cat .Xdefaults
! This is a comment ;-)

#ifdef COLOR
 *customization: -color
#endif

!! Let's cast a wide net, for any app supporting these
! Blink instead of beeping
*visualBell: True
*scrollTtyOutput: False
*scrollKey:   True


XTerm*saveLines:1500
! Do not clear the screen after the program exits
XTerm*VT100*titeInhibit: true

! Enable soft cut and paste
XTerm*VT100.translations: #override \
  : select-end(PRIMARY, CLIPBOARD, CUT_BUFFER0)


! Fix up xterm's keybindings
xterm*VT100.translations:   #override \
   BackSpace:string(0x7F) \n\
   Insert:   string(0x1b) string("[2~")\n\
   Delete:   string(0x1b) string("[3~")\n\
   Home: string(0x1b) string("[1~")\n\
   End:string(0x1b) string("[4~")\n\
   Page_Up:  string(0x1b) string("[5~")\n\
   Page_Down:string(0x1b) string("[6~")\n\
   Prior:   scroll-back(1,page)\n\
   Next:scroll-forw(1,page)

! Set xterm defaults
Xterm*background:   darkgreen
Xterm*foreground:   lightgreen

Xterm*font: 9x15


<--snip

At some point I had the colours displaying correctly but I could not get
the default font to change to large.  In an attempt to get Xterm to use
the above file I ran the command:

$ xrdb ~/.Xdefaults

Now when xterm opens I have a black on white display with tiny fonts.  I
have to use Xterm in a specific instance because the version of gnome
terminal that ships with CentOS-5 breaks vt102 emulation horribly. I have
already spent way too much time trying to get Xterm and Xdefaults to work
together as they should. I do not understand what it is that I am missing
or doing wrong.  Can somebody please point out what is wrong with my
configuration?

I have already read, and reread, the man page.

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Re: [CentOS] restore

2008-07-29 Thread Stephen Harris
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 05:19:46PM +0200, Mad Unix wrote:
> - The control files has been transfered from AIX5.3 to a Linux Machine !!

This is an Oracle issue and not a CentOS issue.

Please note that, typically, Oracle binary files are not portable between
hardware and OS platforms.  When I used to DBA Oracle (Oracle 8; that
long ago) we were told by Oracle that files were not portable (eg between
HPUX and Solaris, or Solaris and Linux).

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[CentOS] Re: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 61s!

2008-07-29 Thread Scott Silva

on 7-29-2008 4:44 AM Johnny Hughes spake the following:

Scott Silva wrote:




I choose CentOS because I believe it is the most stable OS in
commodity machines.
But I don't know how to do when facing the trouble.

The difference lies in that I patched a PF_RING patch in original
kernel and recompiled
the kernel to run my machines. I wonder whether the patched kernel
crashes the CentOS
because PF_RING automatically downloads the kernel codes from
www.kernel.org, but not
the one from www.centos.org? Or, the centOS holds the bugs in its 
distribution?



When you use a custom kernel, you usually get to keep the pieces.

Go buy a new car and change the engine and then see if they honor the 
warranty.


We stopped using Dell machines some time ago. For some reason there 
reliability has been steadily falling. I don't know if they are doing 
non-standard stuff in their bios's or just using less than optimal 
hardware to cut costs, but I probably won't go back.


well ... my $work has been using dell exclusively for servers and 
workstations for 5 years.


I have had no real issues with either the poweredge servers or the 
desktops and Dell has always sent parts in a timely manner to replace 
any broken system under warranty.


We don't have too many servers (about 20 in 5 locations) or workstations 
(about 150 in 5 locations) but I have had no problem with Dell machines 
or their service ... maybe I am just lucky.


Thanks,
Johnny Hughes

I'm glad you are happy. We have had problems from techs wanting credit cards 
to secure parts delivery, to billing and account problems. Also shipping of 
completely different systems then what was ordered. Our purchasing department 
will not even deal with Dell anymore. They even sent a disputed bill to a 
collection agency


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RE: [CentOS] restore

2008-07-29 Thread Marc-Andre Levesque
>> - The control files has been transfered from AIX5.3 to a Linux Machine !!
>
>This is an Oracle issue and not a CentOS issue.
>
>Please note that, typically, Oracle binary files are not portable between
>hardware and OS platforms.  When I used to DBA Oracle (Oracle 8; that
>long ago) we were told by Oracle that files were not portable (eg between
>HPUX and Solaris, or Solaris and Linux).

This definitely belongs to an Oracle mailing list. However, please look at 
possible issues between Big/Little Endian architectures. I've seen this when 
moving between different archs.

MAL

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Re: [CentOS] Bug Policy [was Re: Does sprof work on CentOS5?]

2008-07-29 Thread Tru Huynh
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 04:29:19PM +0100, Hywel Richards wrote:
> Johnny Hughes wrote:
>>
>> http://lists4.suse.de/opensuse-bugs/2007-09/msg10980.html
>>
>
> This looks like it might well be the same problem.
yes
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2007-09/msg00477.html
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=327040#c3

Could you please fill a bug at http://bugs.centos.org and to upstream 
http://bugzilla.redhat.com with these 2 links.

> It's a little bit discouraging that the bug was entered so long ago and  
> is still open.
There is no match when I search "sprof" on http://bugzilla.redhat.com 
How would they fix it if it's not reported there ;)

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Re: [CentOS] Restricting User Rights massively

2008-07-29 Thread Dirk H. Schulz
Thanks to all who helped - rbash seems to be a good starting point since 
selinux is quite complex and takes some time to get into.


Dirk

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On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 13:05 +0200, Dirk H. Schulz wrote:

Hi folks,

is it possible to restrict the rights of a user to only do few, defined
actions, e.g. only look up cpu and memory usage, but not walk around in
the  file system, not see any other hardware details, run any
binaries/scripts?  I know several different techniques to achieve parts
of this (like  chrooting him), but is there one technique to get it all?


"Man bash". /-r and /RESTRICTED SHELL

It'll take a little setup to custom taylor it. Permissions, PATH and a
user or group specific bin directory (new one, not one of the standards)
in their PATH. Some copy/symlink (careful with that) of existing
executables may be useful.

Be careful with scripts made available. There is a caveat that
restrictions are removed when a script is being processed.

Carefully constructed .bashrc, bash_profile.

IMO, this is easier to setup than selinux, *may* meet all your needs and
will not be affected by upgrades.



Dirk



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Re: [CentOS] Change Web Server to another disk in Centos 5.2

2008-07-29 Thread MHR
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 9:48 PM, Kuang-Chun Cheng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Check apache's configuration.  Change "DocumentRoot" from /var/www/html
> to new location you want.
>
> Or simply, move /var/www/html to new disk ... and make a symbolic link
> /var/www/html @-> your_new_path
>

I don't know a lot about apache, but it seems to me that the simplest
solution is to mount your intended target to /var/www and that should
take care of it (provided that you have all the necessary files moved
there as well).

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Re: [CentOS] Re: Duplicate PV on HW RAID?

2008-07-29 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 9:21 AM, Eduardo Grosclaude
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Scott Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> The machine BIOS correctly describes the RAID volume at start. Doesn't It
>>> smell like fake RAID?
>>> Should I declare sdb invalid to the firmware program so as to force
>>> resync?
>>> Thanks again
>>> --
> >It sure looks as if it was originally a mirrored set, but broke later,
>> maybe a kernel update no longer supports that fakeraid controller.
>
> Indeed. A reboot later, everything was a mess. I rebuilt the RAID and
> repeated the install.
>
> Found that Disk Druid correctly sees the only device (referred to as
> /mapper/isw_[10 seemingly hex digits]_Volume0, everything goes completely as
> expected.
>
> However, at the next boot the installed kernel no longer believes there's a
> single device there, and goes like this:
>
>   No RAID sets and with names 'isw_[same digits]_Volume0'
>   failed to stat() /dev/mapper/isw_[same digits]_Volume0
>   ...EXT3-fs errors...
>   ...mounts failed
>   Kernel panic
>
> My fault was not installing the proper Intel RAID driver for RHEL... the
> regular kernel does not provide it.
> Thanks very much for your help

Eduardo: To give you something else to consider, as an alternative:  I
believe there was a long thread here, awhile back, about using
Software RAID, instead of fake RAID controllers. Software RAID works
very well, as I recall from reading that thread. Possibly look into
changing to Software RAID. Depends on the HW RAID controller.  (Far
OT: Years ago, I met a woman from Neuquen, in Mexico). Lanny in
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[CentOS] securing rsync over ssh

2008-07-29 Thread Kai Schaetzl
I want to secure some remote rsyncs over ssh by using the command= option 
in .authorized_keys.
As I understand I can use only the full command there, as it is not a list 
of "allowed commands" but the command that will be executed when logging 
in with this key.
Now, I'm running several rsync commands on individual directories in the 
root, not just one command. I do that to pull different exclude lists in. 
I want to exclude nothing in some directories and a few different things 
in other directories. rsyncing per /rooted directory seems to be the 
cleanest and easiest way. All other combinations of complicated 
exclude/include lists may have unexpected results.
I thought about putting the remote command in a shell script. However, I 
think this won't work as each rsync on the remote side will be executed 
with the first rsync command in the script on the local side.
Is there a solution (besides using several keys or so)?

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Re: [CentOS] Change Web Server to another disk in Centos 5.2

2008-07-29 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:40 PM, Salvador Torres
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm new to CentOS 5.2 and I want to know how can I change the /var/www/html
> directory to another disk. That disk is not even partitioned. I've googled
> and even searched in centos.org forums and documentation, and found nothing.
>
> I want to have in separate disks CentOS and my web server.
>
> Can anybody recommend any CentOS 5.2 book, because every time I want to find
> an answer to my questions I spend a lot of time searching for it in the
> centos.org website and googling and nothing useful comes up.

In addition to the Documentation that is available to you on
CentOS.org you might
want to consider purchasing a book about Red Hat Enterprise Linux.
CentOS is a binary clone.
There are *very* few differences, between RHEL and CentOS.
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Re: [CentOS] Re: PF_RING crashed the CentOS5 - BUG: soft lockup - CPU#7

2008-07-29 Thread Ian jonhson
> PF_RING seems to be used for the newest version of ntop for faster packet
> capture and analysis. Is that what you are trying to accomplish?

Yes. this is the reason why we turn back on PF_RING to patch the kernel.
Generally, the libpcap can not meet our need to capture the network packets.

> Or did I just get a bad google?
>

Sorry, what do you mean?
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Re: [CentOS] Change Web Server to another disk in Centos 5.2

2008-07-29 Thread John R Pierce

MHR wrote:

On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 9:48 PM, Kuang-Chun Cheng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

Check apache's configuration.  Change "DocumentRoot" from /var/www/html
to new location you want.

Or simply, move /var/www/html to new disk ... and make a symbolic link
/var/www/html @-> your_new_path




I don't know a lot about apache, but it seems to me that the simplest
solution is to mount your intended target to /var/www and that should
take care of it (provided that you have all the necessary files moved
there as well).
  


if you read his original request carefully, you'll note he's got disks 
that aren't even partitioned or formatted and he's asking for help with 
both storage management AND apache configuration.


I'd suggest he find and hire a systems administrator willing to train 
him in basic Linux administration, or to do the work for him



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[CentOS] Re: Hardware serial number access from (a) command(s)

2008-07-29 Thread Scott Silva

on 7-28-2008 6:26 PM Lanny Marcus spake the following:

On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Scott Silva  wrote:


MHR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> took out a #2 pencil and scribbled:

Over the weekend, I had to make a technical support call on one
of my DVD burners, and at one point the recorded message
mentioned I should have my serial number handy.  I thought there
was a way to read that from at least one piece of software on the
system, but I couldn't remember one and man -k on a number of
subjects was unrevealing.

Can someone enlighten me (us)?



Mark: Try that! On my Desktop, it gives me the SN for the HD (hda),
but the space for
SN is blank, for hdc (DVD reader) and hdd (CD-RW). . If you are lucky,
on your box, it will give you the SN for the DVD
burner. Lanny

I don't think most optical drive manufacturers embed serial numbers in their
drives. Hard drives are different, as their testing process lets them change
something like a serial number, but an optical drive would require a custom
firmware to be created and then loaded to the drive. That would slow the
process.


That probably explains why when I tried it, there were no serial numbers for my
opticlal drives. I always see an SN for a HD, when running diagnostics on them.
Sounds like Mark is going to need to pull the bad DVD burner anyway, so when he
does, he can read the SN on the label and get an RMA for it.
I would have tried also, because now the system needs to come apart twice 
unless you just buy a new one and let the replacement be a spare.


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[CentOS] Re: [Ntop-misc] PF_RING crashed the CentOS5 - BUG: soft lockup - CPU#7

2008-07-29 Thread Ian jonhson
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Luca Deri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ian
> from the trace below I don't see an error related to PF_RING but a
> soft-lockup (see below).
>
> I have tested PF_RING on 2.6.24 and .26 and have not experienced the problem
> you reported.

hmm...  I have restarted the operating system with CentOS's original kernel and
done again my experiments. I found that bug has not occurred again.

I don't know why. Maybe, the traditional libpcap has no provided
enough capability
like PF_RING. Or, perhapse something wrong is indeed in patched kernel or Dell
hardware drivers.

BTW, could you tell me what OS distribution you used in your testing PF_RING,
RedHat AS4 or Others? And what kernel source codes are downloaded, from
vendor's websites or www.kernel.org?

I very thank you if you can recommend what OS distribution and what
kernel version
are put together can achieve the maximal stability.

Thank anybody!


Ian
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Re: [CentOS] Re: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 61s!

2008-07-29 Thread MHR
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 4:44 AM, Johnny Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> well ... my $work has been using dell exclusively for servers and
> workstations for 5 years.
>
> I have had no real issues with either the poweredge servers or the desktops
> and Dell has always sent parts in a timely manner to replace any broken
> system under warranty.
>
> We don't have too many servers (about 20 in 5 locations) or workstations
> (about 150 in 5 locations) but I have had no problem with Dell machines or
> their service ... maybe I am just lucky.
>

Nope - blessed.

:-)

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Re: [CentOS] Re: Hardware serial number access from (a) command(s)

2008-07-29 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Scott Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> on 7-28-2008 6:26 PM Lanny Marcus spake the following:


 Mark: Try that! On my Desktop, it gives me the SN for the HD (hda),
 but the space for
 SN is blank, for hdc (DVD reader) and hdd (CD-RW). . If you are lucky,
 on your box, it will give you the SN for the DVD
 burner. Lanny
>>>
>>> I don't think most optical drive manufacturers embed serial numbers in
>>> their
>>> drives. Hard drives are different, as their testing process lets them
>>> change
>>> something like a serial number, but an optical drive would require a
>>> custom
>>> firmware to be created and then loaded to the drive. That would slow the
>>> process.
>>
>> That probably explains why when I tried it, there were no serial numbers
>> for my
>> opticlal drives. I always see an SN for a HD, when running diagnostics on
>> them.
>> Sounds like Mark is going to need to pull the bad DVD burner anyway, so
>> when he
>> does, he can read the SN on the label and get an RMA for it.
>
> I would have tried also, because now the system needs to come apart twice
> unless you just buy a new one and let the replacement be a spare.

Mark: Scott has the right plan for you. Buy a new drive and install
it, when you take out the defective one.
Send the defective drive in on an RMA and they will probably replace
it with a remanufactured drive and you keep
that one available as a spare or install it in another box.. If your
box is like 3 of ours, it is a PITA to R&R a 5.25" drive. We have 2
Dell Dimensions that are very easy to open (that's the idea, if it
works). Dell Latin America replaced one of them, after I got it,
because I could not open it. It took two (2) of their Tech Support
people, to get the thing open, so I asked for a new one. Plastic
cases.. Lanny
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[CentOS] Re: [Ntop-misc] PF_RING crashed the CentOS5 - BUG: soft lockup - CPU#7

2008-07-29 Thread Scott Silva

on 7-29-2008 9:48 AM Ian jonhson spake the following:

On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Luca Deri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Ian
from the trace below I don't see an error related to PF_RING but a
soft-lockup (see below).

I have tested PF_RING on 2.6.24 and .26 and have not experienced the problem
you reported.


hmm...  I have restarted the operating system with CentOS's original kernel and
done again my experiments. I found that bug has not occurred again.

I don't know why. Maybe, the traditional libpcap has no provided
enough capability
like PF_RING. Or, perhapse something wrong is indeed in patched kernel or Dell
hardware drivers.

BTW, could you tell me what OS distribution you used in your testing PF_RING,
RedHat AS4 or Others? And what kernel source codes are downloaded, from
vendor's websites or www.kernel.org?

I very thank you if you can recommend what OS distribution and what
kernel version
are put together can achieve the maximal stability.

Thank anybody!


Ian
If you need a newer kernel to use that patch, I would recommend something that 
runs more cutting edge for that server, maybe Gentoo or Fedora 9. I don't 
recommend patching CentOS with a new kernel as you lose the main benefit for 
using an Enterprise distro .. stability.
I love CentOS, but no one distribution can be everything for everyone. That is 
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[CentOS] Re: Hardware serial number access from (a) command(s)

2008-07-29 Thread Scott Silva

on 7-29-2008 9:59 AM Lanny Marcus spake the following:

On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Scott Silva  wrote:

on 7-28-2008 6:26 PM Lanny Marcus spake the following:



Mark: Try that! On my Desktop, it gives me the SN for the HD (hda),
but the space for
SN is blank, for hdc (DVD reader) and hdd (CD-RW). . If you are lucky,
on your box, it will give you the SN for the DVD
burner. Lanny

I don't think most optical drive manufacturers embed serial numbers in
their
drives. Hard drives are different, as their testing process lets them
change
something like a serial number, but an optical drive would require a
custom
firmware to be created and then loaded to the drive. That would slow the
process.

That probably explains why when I tried it, there were no serial numbers
for my
opticlal drives. I always see an SN for a HD, when running diagnostics on
them.
Sounds like Mark is going to need to pull the bad DVD burner anyway, so
when he
does, he can read the SN on the label and get an RMA for it.

I would have tried also, because now the system needs to come apart twice
unless you just buy a new one and let the replacement be a spare.


Mark: Scott has the right plan for you. Buy a new drive and install
it, when you take out the defective one.
Send the defective drive in on an RMA and they will probably replace
it with a remanufactured drive and you keep
that one available as a spare or install it in another box.. If your
box is like 3 of ours, it is a PITA to R&R a 5.25" drive. We have 2
Dell Dimensions that are very easy to open (that's the idea, if it
works). Dell Latin America replaced one of them, after I got it,
because I could not open it. It took two (2) of their Tech Support
people, to get the thing open, so I asked for a new one. Plastic
cases.. Lanny
You must have forgotten to wave the chicken over your head 3 times and said 
the magic words. You don't want to wave the chicken more than 3 times, as he 
will be angry enough after the 3. ;-P




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Re: [CentOS] Xdefaults file.

2008-07-29 Thread Bill Campbell
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008, James B. Byrne wrote:
>I am trying to get my xterm window under gnome to open with large fonts,
>with light green foreground and dark green background.  I have the
>following .Xdefaults file contents:

Rather than use the Xdefaults file, create a ~/XTerm file which
every xterm will read at startup so changes appear immediately.

I'm attaching the one I use which sets large fonts, a red cursor
so that characters show in reverse video, and a few other
goodies.

The XTerm*pointerShape sets the pointer to an arrow which I find
much easier to see than the default.

The XTerm*charClass is a bit of magic that makes left double
clicks highlight full path names, IP addresses, and other useful
things.

The XTerm*ttyModes is effectively stty to set my preferences,
avoiding the DECish ^? DEL instead of ctrl-H backspace as $DEITY
intended.

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!! modify mouse functionality so that "Shift " has the same
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!!
!! The Ctrl xterm window menu CANNOT be popped up using
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!*VT100*translations: #override\
! Shift : insert-selection(PRIMARY, CUT_BUFFER0) \n\
! Button1 : insert-selection(PRIMARY, CUT_BUFFER0)
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! Shift :   StartScroll(Continuous) MoveThumb() NotifyThumb() \n\
! Shift : MoveThumb() NotifyThumb() \n\
! Button1 :   StartScroll(Continuous) MoveThumb() NotifyThumb() 
\n\
! Button1 : MoveThumb() NotifyThumb()
!
!
!
!!
!! menu resources
!!
!
!*SimpleMenu*BackingStore: NotUseful
!*SimpleMenu*menuLabel.font: 
-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--*-120-*-*-*-*-iso*-*
!*SimpleMenu*menuLabel.vertSpace:   100
!*SimpleMenu*HorizontalMargins: 16
!*SimpleMenu*Sme.height:16
!
!*SimpleMenu*Cursor: left_ptr
!*mainMenu.Label:  Main Options
!*mainMenu*securekbd*Label:  Secure Keyboard
!*mainMenu*allowsends*Label:  Allow SendEvents
!*mainMenu*logging*Label:  Log to File
!*mainMenu*redraw*Label:  Redraw Window
!*mainMenu*suspend*Label:  Send STOP Signal
!*mainMenu*continue*Label:  Send CONT Signal
!*mainMenu*interrupt*Label:  Send INT Signal
!*mainMenu*hangup*Label:  Send HUP Signal
!*mainMenu*terminate*Label:  Send TERM Signal
!*mainMenu*kill*Label:  Send KILL Signal
!*mainMenu*quit*Label:  Quit
!
!*vtMenu.Label:  VT Options
!*vtMenu*scrollbar*Label:  Enable Scrollbar
!*vtMenu*jumpscroll*Label:  Enable Jump Scroll
!*vtMenu*reversevideo*Label:  Enable Reverse Video
!*vtMenu*autowrap*Label:  Enable Auto Wraparound
!*vtMenu*reversewrap*Label:  Enable Reverse Wraparound
!*vtMenu*autolinefeed*Label:  Enable Auto Linefeed
!*vtMenu*appcursor*Label:  Enable Application Cursor Keys
!*vtMenu*appkeypad*Label:  Enable Application Keypad
!*vtMenu*scrollkey*Label:  Scroll to Bottom on Key Press
!*vtMenu*scrollttyoutput*Label:  Scroll to Bottom on Tty Output
!*vtMenu*allow132*Label: Allow 80/132 Column Switching
!*vtMenu*cursesemul*Label:  Enable Curses Emulation
!*vtMenu*visualbell*Label:  Enable Visual Bell
!*vtMenu*marginbell*Label:  Enable Margin Bell
!*vtMenu*altscreen*Label:  Show Alternate Screen
!*vtMenu*softreset*Label:  Do Soft Reset
!*vtMenu*hardreset*Label:  Do Full Reset
!*vtMenu*tekshow*Label:  Show Tek Window
!*vtMenu*tekmode*Label:  Switch to Tek Mode
!*vtMenu*vthide*Label:  Hide VT Window
!
!*fontMenu.Label:  VT Fonts
!*fontMenu*fontdefault*Label:   Default
!*fontMenu*font1*Label: 6x10
!*VT100*font1:  6x10
!*fontMenu*font2*Label: 6x12
!*VT100*font2:  6x12
!*fontMenu*font3*Label: 9x15
!*VT100*font3:  9x15
!*fontMenu*font4*Label: 10x20
!*VT100*font4:  10x20
!*fontMenu*fontescape*Label:Escape Sequence
!*fontMenu*fontsel*Label:   Selection
!!fontescape and fontsel overridden by application
!
!*tekMenu.Label:  Tek Options
!*tekMenu*tektextlarge*Label:  Large Characters
!*tekMenu*tektext2*Label:  #2 Size Characters
!*tekMenu*tektext3*Label:  #3 Size Characters
!*tekMenu*tektextsmall*Label:  Small Characters
!*tekMenu*tekpage*Label:  PAGE
!*tekMenu*tekreset*Label:  RESET
!*tekMenu*tekcopy*Label:  COPY
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XTerm*font: 10x20
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XTerm*blink:true
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Re: [CentOS] Re: Hardware serial number access from (a) command(s)

2008-07-29 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Scott Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>> I would have tried also, because now the system needs to come apart twice
>>> unless you just buy a new one and let the replacement be a spare.
>>
>> Mark: Scott has the right plan for you. Buy a new drive and install
>> it, when you take out the defective one.
>> Send the defective drive in on an RMA and they will probably replace
>> it with a remanufactured drive and you keep
>> that one available as a spare or install it in another box.. If your
>> box is like 3 of ours, it is a PITA to R&R a 5.25" drive. We have 2
>> Dell Dimensions that are very easy to open (that's the idea, if it
>> works). Dell Latin America replaced one of them, after I got it,
>> because I could not open it. It took two (2) of their Tech Support
>> people, to get the thing open, so I asked for a new one. Plastic
>> cases.. Lanny
>
> You must have forgotten to wave the chicken over your head 3 times and said
> the magic words. You don't want to wave the chicken more than 3 times, as he
> will be angry enough after the 3. ;-P

I had to open that box (now my daughters) awhile back, to remove the
defective Teac
CD-RW drive and I remembered what happened to the original box and
kept my fingers
crossed, that I could get it open and close it again. When it happened
to the new box, a Dimension 4300,
which was under warranty, two (2) men came to our house and they had a
struggle, to get the case open. Flimsy
plastic. It opens like a suitcase and is incredibly easy to work on,
if you can get it open.
If Dell would sell a box like that, with a metal case, it would be a winner.
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Re: [CentOS] Change Web Server to another disk in Centos 5.2

2008-07-29 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 11:41 AM, John R Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> MHR wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 9:48 PM, Kuang-Chun Cheng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Check apache's configuration.  Change "DocumentRoot" from /var/www/html
>>> to new location you want.
>>>
>>> Or simply, move /var/www/html to new disk ... and make a symbolic link
>>> /var/www/html @-> your_new_path
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I don't know a lot about apache, but it seems to me that the simplest
>> solution is to mount your intended target to /var/www and that should
>> take care of it (provided that you have all the necessary files moved
>> there as well).
>>
>
> if you read his original request carefully, you'll note he's got disks that
> aren't even partitioned or formatted and he's asking for help with both
> storage management AND apache configuration.
>
> I'd suggest he find and hire a systems administrator willing to train him in
> basic Linux administration, or to do the work for him

Good suggestion.. If his server is connected to the Internet and he
doesn't know how to
begin configuring it, to make it as secure as is possible, someone
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[CentOS] Re: Hardware serial number access from (a) command(s)

2008-07-29 Thread Scott Silva

on 7-29-2008 10:48 AM Lanny Marcus spake the following:

On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Scott Silva  wrote:


I would have tried also, because now the system needs to come apart twice
unless you just buy a new one and let the replacement be a spare.

Mark: Scott has the right plan for you. Buy a new drive and install
it, when you take out the defective one.
Send the defective drive in on an RMA and they will probably replace
it with a remanufactured drive and you keep
that one available as a spare or install it in another box.. If your
box is like 3 of ours, it is a PITA to R&R a 5.25" drive. We have 2
Dell Dimensions that are very easy to open (that's the idea, if it
works). Dell Latin America replaced one of them, after I got it,
because I could not open it. It took two (2) of their Tech Support
people, to get the thing open, so I asked for a new one. Plastic
cases.. Lanny

You must have forgotten to wave the chicken over your head 3 times and said
the magic words. You don't want to wave the chicken more than 3 times, as he
will be angry enough after the 3. ;-P


I had to open that box (now my daughters) awhile back, to remove the
defective Teac
CD-RW drive and I remembered what happened to the original box and
kept my fingers
crossed, that I could get it open and close it again. When it happened
to the new box, a Dimension 4300,
which was under warranty, two (2) men came to our house and they had a
struggle, to get the case open. Flimsy
plastic. It opens like a suitcase and is incredibly easy to work on,
if you can get it open.
If Dell would sell a box like that, with a metal case, it would be a winner.
I have worked on them. I think a button on the top and another on the bottom 
that you have to push "at the same time and just right" for it to open. Then 
with your third arm you have to pull the side open. It was not fun. But it was 
a side job and paid cash.


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Re: [CentOS] /etc/hosts missing localhost?

2008-07-29 Thread Bill Campbell
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008, kapil singh wrote:
>
>   Hello,
>   what about your postgresql settings ?

There were no problems with the postgresql settings, only that
when trying to connect to ``localhost'' it could not resolve that
to 127.0.0.1.  ``psql -h 127.0.0.1 ...'' worked.  After updating
the /etc/hosts file to create the ``127.0.0.1 localhost'' line,
things work fine.

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Re: [CentOS] Re: Hardware serial number access from (a) command(s)

2008-07-29 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Scott Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> on 7-29-2008 10:48 AM Lanny Marcus spake the following:

>>> You must have forgotten to wave the chicken over your head 3 times and
>>> said
>>> the magic words. You don't want to wave the chicken more than 3 times, as
>>> he
>>> will be angry enough after the 3. ;-P
>>
>> I had to open that box (now my daughters) awhile back, to remove the
>> defective Teac
>> CD-RW drive and I remembered what happened to the original box and
>> kept my fingers
>> crossed, that I could get it open and close it again. When it happened
>> to the new box, a Dimension 4300,
>> which was under warranty, two (2) men came to our house and they had a
>> struggle, to get the case open. Flimsy
>> plastic. It opens like a suitcase and is incredibly easy to work on,
>> if you can get it open.
>> If Dell would sell a box like that, with a metal case, it would be a
>> winner.
>
> I have worked on them. I think a button on the top and another on the bottom
> that you have to push "at the same time and just right" for it to open. Then
> with your third arm you have to pull the side open. It was not fun. But it
> was a side job and paid cash.

I think the first one we got was defective, before it left the Dell
factory.  If it works properly,
it's pretty easy to open them and a joy to work inside. The boxes we
have where the drives
are in cages are a lot harder, when you need to remove and/or install
a drive. It took 2 grown men
to get that first Dell Dimension 4300 open and I was afraid to keep
it, fearing the same problem
would pop up again, the next time I needed to get inside to work on
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Re: [CentOS] Re: Hardware serial number access from (a) command(s)

2008-07-29 Thread MHR
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Scott Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You must have forgotten to wave the chicken over your head 3 times and said
> the magic words. You don't want to wave the chicken more than 3 times, as he
> will be angry enough after the 3. ;-P
>
Did you remember to thaw the chicken?

;^)

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Re: [CentOS] Re: Hardware serial number access from (a) command(s)

2008-07-29 Thread MHR
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Lanny Marcus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Mark: Scott has the right plan for you. Buy a new drive and install
> it, when you take out the defective one.
> Send the defective drive in on an RMA and they will probably replace
> it with a remanufactured drive and you keep
> that one available as a spare or install it in another box.. If your
> box is like 3 of ours, it is a PITA to R&R a 5.25" drive. We have 2
> Dell Dimensions that are very easy to open (that's the idea, if it
> works). Dell Latin America replaced one of them, after I got it,
> because I could not open it. It took two (2) of their Tech Support
> people, to get the thing open, so I asked for a new one. Plastic
> cases.. Lanny

Actually, this is my personal desktop that I've built and rebuilt over
the years, so taking out a drive isn't THAT big of a deal.

However, the alternative Scott suggests sounds seriously tempting.

Thanks, folks!

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[CentOS] Samba, SELinux and system created directories

2008-07-29 Thread Mike
Does anybody know what 'setsebool -P samba_export_all_rw on' is actually 
supposed to do?  I'm trying to share /tmp via samba and am seeing the same 
results with samba_export_all_rw set to on or off.


Maybe I'm misunderstanding what this is intended to do but from windows I 
cannot see files in /tmp with 'tmp_t' security context (as shown by ls -lZ 
/tmp).  I do see those with 'smbd_tmp_t' which are files placed there from 
windows via samba.  I assumed that this boolean, when on, would allow 
samba to see files in /tmp regardless of security context.  I did try 
'touch /.autorelabel' and rebooting, still no dice.



From /etc/samba/smb.conf:


  # If you need to share a system created directory you can use one of the
  # following (read-only/read-write):
  # setsebool -P samba_export_all_ro on
  # or
  # setsebool -P samba_export_all_rw on

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[CentOS] syslog question

2008-07-29 Thread James Pifer
I have a 64bit centos 5.2 system. My router supports sending logs to a
syslog server, so I was hoping to send them to my centos box so they are
easier to keep an eye on. 

I've been googling for howto's etc, but I didn't think syslog would be
that difficult. Do I need to use syslog-ng or can I use the syslog
that's installed with centos 5.2?

Any suggestions or guidance?

Thanks,
James

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Re: [CentOS] syslog question

2008-07-29 Thread Bart Baars
Syslog (or rsyslog) will do..

Have a look at /etc/sysconfig/(r)syslog

Cheers,

Bart
 
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Subject: [CentOS] syslog question

I have a 64bit centos 5.2 system. My router supports sending logs to a
syslog server, so I was hoping to send them to my centos box so they are
easier to keep an eye on. 

I've been googling for howto's etc, but I didn't think syslog would be
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Thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] syslog question

2008-07-29 Thread Milton Calnek

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On your CentOS box, edit /etc/sysconfig/syslog. The comments in the
file should be sufficient.

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[CentOS] nss_ldap 5.2 update question

2008-07-29 Thread David Halik


Hi all, I was just wondering when this update will trickle down into the 
Centos repo:


http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2008-0611.html

Obviously, it just came out yesterday, so I'm not expecting it to 
suddenly appear. ;) Just curious what the turn around time usually is 
for RHEL bug fixes that get released and when we should expect it.


As a side note, does anyone know if there is a way to get a hold of an 
update like this without having support access to the RHN? I'm guessing 
I just have to wait for a Centos release.


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[CentOS] Migrating RHEL 3 to Centos 5.2 - has Adaptec 2400a RAID

2008-07-29 Thread Ed Westphal
   Greetings all. I'm new to the mailing list. Hope to get to know many 
of you. I'll jump right in with a recent project. I have a machine with 
RHEL WS 3 - Taroon; plus dual boot to Win 2000 Pro. The RAID card is 
Adaptec's 2400A w/128 megs cache, running RAID 10 on 4 WD's. I want to 
migrate to 5.2 Centos and wipe the NTFS partition. I have the 5.2 Centos 
DVD. Anyone see any problems, special preparation needed, whatever, to 
accomplish the migration? The RAID uses dpt_i2o drivers. The NVidia card 
can get drivers from their website, if need be to support full 
functionality. Please advise with any cautions, considerations, you may 
care to give. Thanks in advance.


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[CentOS] Re: securing rsync over ssh

2008-07-29 Thread Mike

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008, Kai Schaetzl wrote:


I want to secure some remote rsyncs over ssh by using the command= option
in .authorized_keys.
As I understand I can use only the full command there, as it is not a list
of "allowed commands" but the command that will be executed when logging
in with this key.
Now, I'm running several rsync commands on individual directories in the
root, not just one command. I do that to pull different exclude lists in.
I want to exclude nothing in some directories and a few different things
in other directories. rsyncing per /rooted directory seems to be the
cleanest and easiest way. All other combinations of complicated
exclude/include lists may have unexpected results.
I thought about putting the remote command in a shell script. However, I
think this won't work as each rsync on the remote side will be executed
with the first rsync command in the script on the local side.
Is there a solution (besides using several keys or so)?

Kai

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Re: [CentOS] syslog question

2008-07-29 Thread David Mackintosh
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 02:32:19PM -0400, James Pifer wrote:
 
> Any suggestions or guidance?

By default, your syslog does not accept syslog entries from remote
systems.  

Edit /etc/sysconfig/syslog, and add a '-r' parameter to the
SYSLOGD_OPTIONS option, and restart syslog.

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Re: [CentOS] syslog question

2008-07-29 Thread James Pifer
> James Pifer wrote:
> | I have a 64bit centos 5.2 system. My router supports sending logs to a
> | syslog server, so I was hoping to send them to my centos box so
> they are
> | easier to keep an eye on.
> |
> 
> On your CentOS box, edit /etc/sysconfig/syslog. The comments in the
> file should be sufficient.

Yeah, that was pretty easy. Any way to get it to save logs from
different hosts to specific files?

Thanks,
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You need rsyslog for that.
I believe that FC9 has an rpm for it. There are other places to find
one as well. KB may have one in his repo.


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Re: [CentOS] syslog question

2008-07-29 Thread David Mackintosh
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 02:46:39PM -0400, James Pifer wrote:
> Yeah, that was pretty easy. Any way to get it to save logs from
> different hosts to specific files?

I use syslog-ng for that, I think from rpmforge.

http://wiki.xdroop.com/space/Sun/Syslog-ng

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Re: [CentOS] Migrating RHEL 3 to Centos 5.2 - has Adaptec 2400a RAID

2008-07-29 Thread Les Mikesell

Ed Westphal wrote:
   Greetings all. I'm new to the mailing list. Hope to get to know many 
of you. I'll jump right in with a recent project. I have a machine with 
RHEL WS 3 - Taroon; plus dual boot to Win 2000 Pro. The RAID card is 
Adaptec's 2400A w/128 megs cache, running RAID 10 on 4 WD's. I want to 
migrate to 5.2 Centos and wipe the NTFS partition. I have the 5.2 Centos 
DVD. Anyone see any problems, special preparation needed, whatever, to 
accomplish the migration? The RAID uses dpt_i2o drivers. The NVidia card 
can get drivers from their website, if need be to support full 
functionality. Please advise with any cautions, considerations, you may 
care to give. Thanks in advance.


I'd recommend doing a backup, re-installing from scratch, then restoring 
or reinstalling any old stuff you needed instead of trying an upgrade 
(which might work, but you don't know how much old gunk is left).  The 
exception would be if you have separate partitions with old data you 
could keep them and not reformat.


One difference you might see is that in 5.x devices are detected in more 
or less random order.  If you have more than one NIC, you won't know 
ahead of time which will be eth0 - but once configured it will stay 
identified by the HWDADDR entry n the config file.  Likewise for your 
disk drives - sata devices may take /dev/sd? names but mounts will match 
the disk labels.


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[CentOS] Re: Hardware serial number access from (a) command(s)

2008-07-29 Thread Scott Silva

on 7-29-2008 11:26 AM MHR spake the following:

On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Scott Silva  wrote:

You must have forgotten to wave the chicken over your head 3 times and said
the magic words. You don't want to wave the chicken more than 3 times, as he
will be angry enough after the 3. ;-P


Did you remember to thaw the chicken?

;^)

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[CentOS] Re: Migrating RHEL 3 to Centos 5.2 - has Adaptec 2400a RAID

2008-07-29 Thread Scott Silva

on 7-29-2008 11:42 AM Ed Westphal spake the following:
   Greetings all. I'm new to the mailing list. Hope to get to know many 
of you. I'll jump right in with a recent project. I have a machine with 
RHEL WS 3 - Taroon; plus dual boot to Win 2000 Pro. The RAID card is 
Adaptec's 2400A w/128 megs cache, running RAID 10 on 4 WD's. I want to 
migrate to 5.2 Centos and wipe the NTFS partition. I have the 5.2 Centos 
DVD. Anyone see any problems, special preparation needed, whatever, to 
accomplish the migration? The RAID uses dpt_i2o drivers. The NVidia card 
can get drivers from their website, if need be to support full 
functionality. Please advise with any cautions, considerations, you may 
care to give. Thanks in advance.


Ed Westphal

You could try the 5.2 live CD and see if it can access the drives.


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Re: [CentOS] Migrating RHEL 3 to Centos 5.2 - has Adaptec 2400a RAID

2008-07-29 Thread Ed Westphal
Many thanks Les. I was hoping I'd hear exactly what you've said. I'll 
have to post once I've accomplished. Take care.


Les Mikesell wrote:

Ed Westphal wrote:
   Greetings all. I'm new to the mailing list. Hope to get to know 
many of you. I'll jump right in with a recent project. I have a 
machine with RHEL WS 3 - Taroon; plus dual boot to Win 2000 Pro. The 
RAID card is Adaptec's 2400A w/128 megs cache, running RAID 10 on 4 
WD's. I want to migrate to 5.2 Centos and wipe the NTFS partition. I 
have the 5.2 Centos DVD. Anyone see any problems, special preparation 
needed, whatever, to accomplish the migration? The RAID uses dpt_i2o 
drivers. The NVidia card can get drivers from their website, if need 
be to support full functionality. Please advise with any cautions, 
considerations, you may care to give. Thanks in advance.


I'd recommend doing a backup, re-installing from scratch, then 
restoring or reinstalling any old stuff you needed instead of trying 
an upgrade (which might work, but you don't know how much old gunk is 
left).  The exception would be if you have separate partitions with 
old data you could keep them and not reformat.


One difference you might see is that in 5.x devices are detected in 
more or less random order.  If you have more than one NIC, you won't 
know ahead of time which will be eth0 - but once configured it will 
stay identified by the HWDADDR entry n the config file.  Likewise for 
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Re: [CentOS] Bug Policy [was Re: Does sprof work on CentOS5?]

2008-07-29 Thread Hywel Richards

Tru Huynh wrote:

On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 04:29:19PM +0100, Hywel Richards wrote:
  

Johnny Hughes wrote:


http://lists4.suse.de/opensuse-bugs/2007-09/msg10980.html

  

This looks like it might well be the same problem.


yes
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2007-09/msg00477.html
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=327040#c3

Could you please fill a bug at http://bugs.centos.org and to upstream 
http://bugzilla.redhat.com with these 2 links.


  


OK, I have logged the problem at bugs.centos.org 
(http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=3021), but is it in order to enter 
it in the redhat bugzilla when I don't have RHEL to check it against?


I know it will be the same, but what is their/centos's policy on this? 
This was the reason for my asking generally about bug reporting policy 
in centos - is there a webpage somewhere describing what the process is 
supposed to be here? I was expecting that the bug would first reach 
confirmed status before it got forwarded upstream, or something like that.


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Re: [CentOS] Re: securing rsync over ssh

2008-07-29 Thread Glenn

At 02:43 PM 7/29/2008, you wrote:

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008, Kai Schaetzl wrote:


I want to secure some remote rsyncs over ssh by using the command= option
in .authorized_keys.
As I understand I can use only the full command there, as it is not a list
of "allowed commands" but the command that will be executed when logging
in with this key.
Now, I'm running several rsync commands on individual directories in the
root, not just one command. I do that to pull different exclude lists in.
I want to exclude nothing in some directories and a few different things
in other directories. rsyncing per /rooted directory seems to be the
cleanest and easiest way. All other combinations of complicated
exclude/include lists may have unexpected results.
I thought about putting the remote command in a shell script. However, I
think this won't work as each rsync on the remote side will be executed
with the first rsync command in the script on the local side.
Is there a solution (besides using several keys or so)?

Kai

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By 'secure some remote rsyncs' do you mean only 
allow rsync but not interactive login?  If so 
perhaps this will meet your needs: http://troy.jdmz.net/rsync/index.html


Hello Kai,

I wanted to reply with a solution, but I did not 
quite understand the problem.. It certainly 
appears that you have the rsync and ssh skills/competency to do what you want.


Thanks,
Glenn Parsons 


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Re: [CentOS] syslog question

2008-07-29 Thread Peter Kjellstrom
On Tuesday 29 July 2008, David Mackintosh wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 02:46:39PM -0400, James Pifer wrote:
> > Yeah, that was pretty easy. Any way to get it to save logs from
> > different hosts to specific files?
>
> I use syslog-ng for that, I think from rpmforge.
>
> http://wiki.xdroop.com/space/Sun/Syslog-ng

Worth noting, rsyslog-2.0.0-11.el5 is in base since CentOS-5.2.

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[CentOS] Re: nss_ldap 5.2 update question

2008-07-29 Thread Scott Silva

on 7-29-2008 11:41 AM David Halik spake the following:


Hi all, I was just wondering when this update will trickle down into the 
Centos repo:


http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2008-0611.html

Obviously, it just came out yesterday, so I'm not expecting it to 
suddenly appear. ;) Just curious what the turn around time usually is 
for RHEL bug fixes that get released and when we should expect it.


As a side note, does anyone know if there is a way to get a hold of an 
update like this without having support access to the RHN? I'm guessing 
I just have to wait for a Centos release.


Thanks!
-Dave


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Re: [CentOS] Migrating RHEL 3 to Centos 5.2 - has Adaptec 2400a RAID

2008-07-29 Thread Peter Kjellstrom
On Tuesday 29 July 2008, Ed Westphal wrote:
> Greetings all. I'm new to the mailing list. Hope to get to know many
> of you. I'll jump right in with a recent project. I have a machine with
> RHEL WS 3 - Taroon; plus dual boot to Win 2000 Pro. The RAID card is
> Adaptec's 2400A w/128 megs cache, running RAID 10 on 4 WD's. I want to
> migrate to 5.2 Centos and wipe the NTFS partition. I have the 5.2 Centos
> DVD. Anyone see any problems, special preparation needed, whatever, to
> accomplish the migration? The RAID uses dpt_i2o drivers.

I'm not sure modern kernels still has this driver. One way to find out is to 
boot the installer to see if it detects your raid card. Another is to try the 
live-dvd.

Good luck,
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Re: [CentOS] Re: nss_ldap 5.2 update question

2008-07-29 Thread David Halik

Scott Silva wrote:

on 7-29-2008 11:41 AM David Halik spake the following:


Hi all, I was just wondering when this update will trickle down into 
the Centos repo:


http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2008-0611.html

Obviously, it just came out yesterday, so I'm not expecting it to 
suddenly appear. ;) Just curious what the turn around time usually is 
for RHEL bug fixes that get released and when we should expect it.


As a side note, does anyone know if there is a way to get a hold of 
an update like this without having support access to the RHN? I'm 
guessing I just have to wait for a Centos release.


Thanks!
-Dave


If they have released the src.rpm you can try and rebuild that.



I'd love to, but I'm not sure where to find it. The update links RH sent 
out only give file names. They claim the actual updates are in RHn, but 
I'm guessing you need a support contract to get an account.


Are they public somewhere?





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Re: [CentOS] syslog question

2008-07-29 Thread Milton Calnek

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| Worth noting, rsyslog-2.0.0-11.el5 is in base since CentOS-5.2.
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ooh... that's definately worth noting.

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Re: [CentOS] Re: Hardware serial number access from (a) command(s)

2008-07-29 Thread Toby Bluhm

Scott Silva wrote:

on 7-29-2008 11:26 AM MHR spake the following:
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Scott Silva 
 wrote:
You must have forgotten to wave the chicken over your head 3 times 
and said
the magic words. You don't want to wave the chicken more than 3 
times, as he

will be angry enough after the 3. ;-P


Did you remember to thaw the chicken?

;^)

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Re: [CentOS] You didn't give me some packages, so now I'm giving you some! R, TexLive, LyX, Gnumeric, etc.

2008-07-29 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 3:41 AM, Ralph Angenendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Paul Johnson wrote:

> There's no real process of getting your packages into CentOS at the
> moment, rpmrepo is still "finding itself", so my advice would be to
> offer those packages (and maintenance) to rpmforge, which will be in
> rpmrepo once that is up. See . Getting it
> in there also will help people with Scientific Linux or other
> distributions.
>

People keep sending me to RPMforge, but apparently you don't go there
yourselves to see you are sending me nowhere.  Follow your advice:

https://rpmrepo.org/RPMforge/

Go to the 2nd section called "Packagers".  Click either of these:

Building RPMforge packages

Contributing RPM packages

Both links point to pages that have not yet been created.

pj

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Re: [CentOS] Re: nss_ldap 5.2 update question

2008-07-29 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:25 PM, David Halik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Scott Silva wrote:
>>
>> on 7-29-2008 11:41 AM David Halik spake the following:
>>>
>>> Hi all, I was just wondering when this update will trickle down into the
>>> Centos repo:
>>>
>>> http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2008-0611.html
>>>
>>> Obviously, it just came out yesterday, so I'm not expecting it to
>>> suddenly appear. ;) Just curious what the turn around time usually is for
>>> RHEL bug fixes that get released and when we should expect it.
>>>
>>> As a side note, does anyone know if there is a way to get a hold of an
>>> update like this without having support access to the RHN? I'm guessing I
>>> just have to wait for a Centos release.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> -Dave
>>>
>> If they have released the src.rpm you can try and rebuild that.
>>
>
> I'd love to, but I'm not sure where to find it. The update links RH sent out
> only give file names. They claim the actual updates are in RHn, but I'm
> guessing you need a support contract to get an account.
>
> Are they public somewhere?

Don't bother.  It's been released.

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Re: [CentOS] nss_ldap 5.2 update question

2008-07-29 Thread Johnny Hughes

David Halik wrote:


Hi all, I was just wondering when this update will trickle down into the 
Centos repo:


http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2008-0611.html

Obviously, it just came out yesterday, so I'm not expecting it to 
suddenly appear. ;) Just curious what the turn around time usually is 
for RHEL bug fixes that get released and when we should expect it.


As a side note, does anyone know if there is a way to get a hold of an 
update like this without having support access to the RHN? I'm guessing 
I just have to wait for a Centos release.




it is released ... you should be able to get it from mirror.centos.org



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Re: [CentOS] nss_ldap 5.2 update question

2008-07-29 Thread David Halik


Great, I didn't realize it was going to be so fast.

Thanks for the info.

Johnny Hughes wrote:

David Halik wrote:


Hi all, I was just wondering when this update will trickle down into 
the Centos repo:


http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2008-0611.html

Obviously, it just came out yesterday, so I'm not expecting it to 
suddenly appear. ;) Just curious what the turn around time usually is 
for RHEL bug fixes that get released and when we should expect it.


As a side note, does anyone know if there is a way to get a hold of 
an update like this without having support access to the RHN? I'm 
guessing I just have to wait for a Centos release.




it is released ... you should be able to get it from mirror.centos.org



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Re: [CentOS] You didn't give me some packages, so now I'm giving you some! R, TexLive, LyX, Gnumeric, etc.

2008-07-29 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 3:41 AM, Ralph Angenendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Paul Johnson wrote:
>
>> There's no real process of getting your packages into CentOS at the
>> moment, rpmrepo is still "finding itself", so my advice would be to
>> offer those packages (and maintenance) to rpmforge, which will be in
>> rpmrepo once that is up. See . Getting it
>> in there also will help people with Scientific Linux or other
>> distributions.
>>
>
> People keep sending me to RPMforge, but apparently you don't go there
> yourselves to see you are sending me nowhere.  Follow your advice:
>
> https://rpmrepo.org/RPMforge/
>
> Go to the 2nd section called "Packagers".  Click either of these:
>
> Building RPMforge packages
>
> Contributing RPM packages
>
> Both links point to pages that have not yet been created.
>
> pj
>
>> Does that answer some of the questions?

When I went to rpmforge.net I ended up here, after I OK'd an SSL
certificate problem:

https://rpmrepo.org/RPMforge

It looks like the site is under construction, but if you click
through, I think you might find what you are looking for.
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Re: [CentOS] nss_ldap 5.2 update question

2008-07-29 Thread Johnny Hughes

David Halik wrote:


Great, I didn't realize it was going to be so fast.

Thanks for the info.

Johnny Hughes wrote:

David Halik wrote:


Hi all, I was just wondering when this update will trickle down into 
the Centos repo:


http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2008-0611.html

Obviously, it just came out yesterday, so I'm not expecting it to 
suddenly appear. ;) Just curious what the turn around time usually is 
for RHEL bug fixes that get released and when we should expect it.


As a side note, does anyone know if there is a way to get a hold of 
an update like this without having support access to the RHN? I'm 
guessing I just have to wait for a Centos release.




it is released ... you should be able to get it from mirror.centos.org


For the record ... if you read the release notes for centos-5.2 ... we 
released a fixed version of that when we released centos-5.2 ... it was 
available here, but is no longer necessary:


http://people.centos.org/hughesjr/nss_ldap/5/




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Re: [CentOS] Re: Hardware serial number access from (a) command(s)

2008-07-29 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Toby Bluhm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Scott Silva wrote:
>>
>> on 7-29-2008 11:26 AM MHR spake the following:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Scott Silva
>>>  wrote:

 You must have forgotten to wave the chicken over your head 3 times and
 said
 the magic words. You don't want to wave the chicken more than 3 times,
 as he
 will be angry enough after the 3. ;-P

>>> Did you remember to thaw the chicken?
>>>
>>> ;^)
>>>
>>> mhr
>>
>> Its supposed to be dead first?
>>
>
>
> Don't forget organically fed and free range.

I was born and raised in California, where Scott and Mark are, but
this waving the chicken over my head, when working on a PC, is new to
me.   :-)
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Re: [CentOS] Re: Hardware serial number access from (a) command(s)

2008-07-29 Thread MHR
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Lanny Marcus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Toby Bluhm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Scott Silva wrote:
>>>
>>> on 7-29-2008 11:26 AM MHR spake the following:

 On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Scott Silva
  wrote:
>
> You must have forgotten to wave the chicken over your head 3 times and
> said
> the magic words. You don't want to wave the chicken more than 3 times,
> as he
> will be angry enough after the 3. ;-P
>
 Did you remember to thaw the chicken?

 ;^)

 mhr
>>>
>>> Its supposed to be dead first?
>>>
>>
>>
>> Don't forget organically fed and free range.
>
> I was born and raised in California, where Scott and Mark are, but
> this waving the chicken over my head, when working on a PC, is new to
> me.   :-)

It's the latest rage - you have to be here

:-)

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Re: [CentOS] You didn't give me some packages, so now I'm giving you some! R, TexLive, LyX, Gnumeric, etc.

2008-07-29 Thread Steve Huff


On Jul 29, 2008, at 3:29 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:


People keep sending me to RPMforge, but apparently you don't go there
yourselves to see you are sending me nowhere.  Follow your advice:

https://rpmrepo.org/RPMforge/



Paul,

i'm sorry that you're experiencing confusion; the websites for  
RPMforge and rpmrepo are incomplete right now.  rather than continuing  
to beat your head against a sparsely populated wiki, i'd recommend you  
do the following:


1) subscribe to the appropriate RPMforge mailing list (http://lists.rpmforge.net/mailman/listinfo 
) - since you're submitting new packages, you probably want the  
"suggest" list.  you may also want to join the "users" list.


2) post your specfiles to the suggest list.  here's an example of  
someone else posting a spec file (http://lists.rpmforge.net/pipermail/suggest/2008-July/000547.html 
), which is then accepted by one of the admins.


i hope you won't be discouraged; even if not everyone in the CentOS  
community is excited about your packages, i'm sure that someone out  
there will be, and contributing them to a large, widely-used  
repository like RPMforge is probably the best way to distribute them.


all the best,
-steve

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[CentOS] Re: You didn't give me some packages, so now I'm giving you some! R, TexLive, LyX, Gnumeric, etc.

2008-07-29 Thread Scott Silva

on 7-29-2008 12:29 PM Paul Johnson spake the following:

On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 3:41 AM, Ralph Angenendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Paul Johnson wrote:



There's no real process of getting your packages into CentOS at the
moment, rpmrepo is still "finding itself", so my advice would be to
offer those packages (and maintenance) to rpmforge, which will be in
rpmrepo once that is up. See . Getting it
in there also will help people with Scientific Linux or other
distributions.



People keep sending me to RPMforge, but apparently you don't go there
yourselves to see you are sending me nowhere.  Follow your advice:

https://rpmrepo.org/RPMforge/

Go to the 2nd section called "Packagers".  Click either of these:

Building RPMforge packages

Contributing RPM packages

Both links point to pages that have not yet been created.


If you look at the first line of the front page it says
"This is work in progress, if you are interested in joining the project please 
get on the mailing lists."


Actually it says "intested", but I had to fix the typo!  ;-P





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Re: [CentOS] Re: Hardware serial number access from (a) command(s)

2008-07-29 Thread Toby Bluhm

MHR wrote:

On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Lanny Marcus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Toby Bluhm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Scott Silva wrote:

on 7-29-2008 11:26 AM MHR spake the following:

On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Scott Silva
 wrote:

You must have forgotten to wave the chicken over your head 3 times and
said
the magic words. You don't want to wave the chicken more than 3 times,
as he
will be angry enough after the 3. ;-P


Did you remember to thaw the chicken?

;^)

mhr

Its supposed to be dead first?



Don't forget organically fed and free range.

I was born and raised in California, where Scott and Mark are, but
this waving the chicken over my head, when working on a PC, is new to
me.   :-)


It's the latest rage - you have to be here

:-)

mhr



Sheesh! Get with it, man. The scientific research has proven it works 
better than burning candles and chanting.


:-)


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Re: [CentOS] Re: Hardware serial number access from (a) command(s)

2008-07-29 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Toby Bluhm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> MHR wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Lanny Marcus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Toby Bluhm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> wrote:

 Scott Silva wrote:
>
> on 7-29-2008 11:26 AM MHR spake the following:
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Scott Silva
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> You must have forgotten to wave the chicken over your head 3 times
>>> and
>>> said
>>> the magic words. You don't want to wave the chicken more than 3
>>> times,
>>> as he
>>> will be angry enough after the 3. ;-P
>>>
>> Did you remember to thaw the chicken?
>>
>> ;^)
>>
>> mhr
>
> Its supposed to be dead first?
>

 Don't forget organically fed and free range.
>>>
>>> I was born and raised in California, where Scott and Mark are, but
>>> this waving the chicken over my head, when working on a PC, is new to
>>> me.   :-)
>>
>> It's the latest rage - you have to be here
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> mhr
>
>
> Sheesh! Get with it, man. The scientific research has proven it works better
> than burning candles and chanting.

Toby: Scott implied that I should have been doing that, when trying to
open that defective Dimension 4300 box and he indicated that it takes
three (3) hands to open the box,. Apparently, one needs a 4th hand, to
swing the chicken in the air, while trying to open the box.. They
started doing that, after I moved from CA. :-)Lanny
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Re: [CentOS] securing rsync over ssh

2008-07-29 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Mike wrote on Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:43:09 -0700 (MST):

> By 'secure some remote rsyncs' do you mean only allow rsync but not 
> interactive login?  If so perhaps this will meet your needs: 
> http://troy.jdmz.net/rsync/index.html

This looks good. It uses a script on the remote side that checks the 
beginning of the command and thus avoids the limitation with adding a 
fixed rsync command in authorized_keys. Thanks!

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Re: [CentOS] securing rsync over ssh

2008-07-29 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Glenn wrote on Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:17:08 -0400:

> I wanted to reply with a solution, but I did not 
> quite understand the problem.

The problem is that if you use a "forced command" in authorized_keys that 
is the only command that runs with this key. If you want to use a few 
more, even if they only differ in parameters, like rsync commands with 
different options, this won't work - so you're stuck with that one command 
or need a different solution. However, it's the only solution that you 
will find googling up and down the net.
That one at troy.jdmz.net is different and looks promnising.

Kai

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Re: [CentOS] You didn't give me some packages, so now I'm giving you some! R, TexLive, LyX, Gnumeric, etc.

2008-07-29 Thread Kai Schaetzl
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Rcpt-To: 

Paul Johnson wrote on Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:29:13 -0500:

> People keep sending me to RPMforge, but apparently you don't go there
> yourselves to see you are sending me nowhere.

Nobody could be aware that you do not know about rpmforge and know your 
way yourself.

-> https://rpmrepo.org/RPMforge/Using

We all use it, we (most of us) do not package for it. rpmforge is one of 
the biggest repos for RHEL, if not the biggest. You will find that a few 
of the stuff you looked for are already there, you will fond some more in 
other repos like atRPMS, EPEL, CentOS-Testing, Karanbir Singh's repo. Not 
necessarily everything you want. Partly because what you want/offer is 
already part of CentOS, just an older version. You should understand that 
most people *want* to use what comes with CentOS and only add packages 
from other repos if these are not part of CentOS. As it seems you want to 
offer newer versions of quite a few packages that are already part of 
CentOS. I'm sure that some people can take advantage of that. However, you 
should be aware that most of "us" won't even see these packages as we use 
the yum priorities plugin to explicitely stop other repos from overriding 
CentOS base packages.
You do not need to join rpmforge for offering your packages. Just create a 
repo with your packages and announce it. Sooner or later people that want 
these packages will find you. There are quite a few specialized repos out 
there that "deal" only in certain types of software or just in one 
package.

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Re: [CentOS] syslog question

2008-07-29 Thread James Pifer
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 12:52 -0600, Milton Calnek wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> James Pifer wrote:
> | Yeah, that was pretty easy. Any way to get it to save logs from
> | different hosts to specific files?
> 
> You need rsyslog for that.
> I believe that FC9 has an rpm for it. There are other places to find
> one as well. KB may have one in his repo.
> 

Okay, I have rsyslog running and regular syslog stopped. Also
chkconfig'ed them. 

I added this to /etc/rsyslog.conf:
$template DynaFile,"/var/log/system-%HOSTNAME%.log"
*.* -?DynaFile

The log that gets created for my router is called:
system-Tue,.log

So I've been trying to modify it using a different propnames instead of
%HOSTNAME%. So far all I get for a result is:
system-**INVALID PROPERTY NAME**.log

In upper and lower case I've tried:
source
fromhost
fromhost-ip

Any suggestions? It's so close now!

Thanks,
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[CentOS] xfs on 5.2 (live cd + dvd)

2008-07-29 Thread Michael Kress

Hello,

I'm planning a server migration and being able to mount xfs file systems 
with the live cd would be a cruical feature.
So before I download and try ... can anyone tell me whether the xfs is 
included in the 5.2 live cd?


Later on I'm planning to install a new system with xen, 3ware 9550SX-4LP 
and xfs. The xen domains are of course located on xfs partitions.
Do these features come with the standard dvd or do I have to build a 
custom kernel for that?


Under centos-4.5 I chose xfs for performance reasons. With 5.2, is it 
still the fs of choice when it comes to performance or do you have 
better recommendations? (It will be a combined web and mail server with 
moderate traffic, i.e. not t much but not tooo little).


Thanks in advance
Regards
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Re: [CentOS] xfs on 5.2 (live cd + dvd)

2008-07-29 Thread Florin Andrei

Michael Kress wrote:


I'm planning a server migration and being able to mount xfs file systems 
with the live cd would be a cruical feature.
So before I download and try ... can anyone tell me whether the xfs is 
included in the 5.2 live cd?


Well, try "yum install" with the "xfs" string and various wildcards and 
you'll figure it out quickly.


Under centos-4.5 I chose xfs for performance reasons. With 5.2, is it 
still the fs of choice when it comes to performance or do you have 
better recommendations? (It will be a combined web and mail server with 
moderate traffic, i.e. not t much but not tooo little).


Performance is not "one", it's "many". There are so many different 
scenarios and in most cases it's impossible to tell whether any given FS 
will perform better than another.


XFS will likely perform better than other FS when you're dealing with 
large files, such as HD authoring and stuff like that. Even then, if you 
want to be sure, it's probably best to do some benchmarks.


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Re: [CentOS] xfs on 5.2 (live cd + dvd)

2008-07-29 Thread Johnny Hughes

Michael Kress wrote:

Hello,

I'm planning a server migration and being able to mount xfs file systems 
with the live cd would be a cruical feature.
So before I download and try ... can anyone tell me whether the xfs is 
included in the 5.2 live cd?




I do not know if the standard xfs modules in extras will work or not. 
You can boot the CD and try to install them.


Later on I'm planning to install a new system with xen, 3ware 9550SX-4LP 
and xfs. The xen domains are of course located on xfs partitions.
Do these features come with the standard dvd or do I have to build a 
custom kernel for that?




There are xfs modules and tools for centos in centos-extras ... so you 
can install them for the main kernel.


Under centos-4.5 I chose xfs for performance reasons. With 5.2, is it 
still the fs of choice when it comes to performance or do you have 
better recommendations? (It will be a combined web and mail server with 
moderate traffic, i.e. not t much but not tooo little).


XFS is not supported by Red Hat ... and it does not recover from loss of 
power very well.  The only way I would recommend XFS is if your have 
tried to run it on ext3 and it will not work without the performance 
increase you can get with XFS.  (All the performance in the world does 
not matter if you loose your partition on a loss of power).





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Re: [CentOS] Re: Hardware serial number access from (a) command(s)

2008-07-29 Thread William L. Maltby

On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 12:54 -0700, MHR wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Lanny Marcus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 

> >
> > I was born and raised in California, where Scott and Mark are, but
> > this waving the chicken over my head, when working on a PC, is new to
> > me.   :-)

Having lived there many years ago, for many years, I know the reason.

It's the only way to recover the drugs smuggled in via the chicken w/o
cutting. That's messy and leaves easily followed trails of blood.

> 
> It's the latest rage - you have to be here

I thought it was "Rave"? ;-)

> 
> :-)
> 
> mhr
> 

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[CentOS] Extended characters not working on CentOS

2008-07-29 Thread MHR
A friend of mine here at work pointed me at this web page
www.fhlcell.org where there are a lot of Chinese characters on the
page.

Interestingly enough, on my CentOS 5.2 system, with both Seamoneky
1.1.11 and Firefox 3.0, we were unable to get the characters to
display properly (they showed up as the little four number boxes
instead).

However, on his Ubuntu system, using Firefox, they displayed just
fine.  Also, I just tested it in Win XP and both Seamonkey 1.1.11 and
IE display it correctly.

What's going on?

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Re: [CentOS] xfs on 5.2 (live cd + dvd)

2008-07-29 Thread Bill Campbell
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008, Florin Andrei wrote:
> Michael Kress wrote:
>>
>> I'm planning a server migration and being able to mount xfs file 
>> systems with the live cd would be a cruical feature.
>> So before I download and try ... can anyone tell me whether the xfs is  
>> included in the 5.2 live cd?
>
> Well, try "yum install" with the "xfs" string and various wildcards and  
> you'll figure it out quickly.
>
>> Under centos-4.5 I chose xfs for performance reasons. With 5.2, is it  
>> still the fs of choice when it comes to performance or do you have  
>> better recommendations? (It will be a combined web and mail server with 
>> moderate traffic, i.e. not t much but not tooo little).
>
> Performance is not "one", it's "many". There are so many different  
> scenarios and in most cases it's impossible to tell whether any given FS  
> will perform better than another.
>
> XFS will likely perform better than other FS when you're dealing with  
> large files, such as HD authoring and stuff like that. Even then, if you  
> want to be sure, it's probably best to do some benchmarks.

While I have used xfs for years on SuSE systems, and have it on
several CentOS 5.1 systems, I will probably not use it on new
installations as ``yum update'' on the CentOS 5.1 systems now
fails saying it cannot update kmod-xfs.

I prefer to keep things close to the LCD to avoid issues with
extensions that may not be updated in a timely manner.

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Re: [CentOS] xfs on 5.2 (live cd + dvd)

2008-07-29 Thread Johnny Hughes

Bill Campbell wrote:

On Tue, Jul 29, 2008, Florin Andrei wrote:

Michael Kress wrote:
I'm planning a server migration and being able to mount xfs file 
systems with the live cd would be a cruical feature.
So before I download and try ... can anyone tell me whether the xfs is  
included in the 5.2 live cd?
Well, try "yum install" with the "xfs" string and various wildcards and  
you'll figure it out quickly.


Under centos-4.5 I chose xfs for performance reasons. With 5.2, is it  
still the fs of choice when it comes to performance or do you have  
better recommendations? (It will be a combined web and mail server with 
moderate traffic, i.e. not t much but not tooo little).
Performance is not "one", it's "many". There are so many different  
scenarios and in most cases it's impossible to tell whether any given FS  
will perform better than another.


XFS will likely perform better than other FS when you're dealing with  
large files, such as HD authoring and stuff like that. Even then, if you  
want to be sure, it's probably best to do some benchmarks.


While I have used xfs for years on SuSE systems, and have it on
several CentOS 5.1 systems, I will probably not use it on new
installations as ``yum update'' on the CentOS 5.1 systems now
fails saying it cannot update kmod-xfs.

I prefer to keep things close to the LCD to avoid issues with
extensions that may not be updated in a timely manner.


You should be able to update the xfs modules ... they are in the repo 
(at least for 5.2 ... 5.1 is not going to get any updates any more and 
is moving to vault soon);




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Re: [CentOS] Re: Duplicate PV on HW RAID?

2008-07-29 Thread Eduardo Grosclaude
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Lanny Marcus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Eduardo: To give you something else to consider, as an alternative:  I
> believe there was a long thread here, awhile back, about using
> Software RAID, instead of fake RAID controllers. Software RAID works
> very well, as I recall from reading that thread. Possibly look into
> changing to Software RAID. Depends on the HW RAID controller.


Yes, I finally ended up installing software RAID because
1) I have read that, even if I installed the proper driver, Linux only uses
it to configure its own dm software RAID device according to the BIOS conf--
is this completely true? If yes, no real offloading anything to hardware
anyway-- even under Windows; does anybody know about this for sure?
2) I am very scared by non-kernel-tree-blessed modules which have their own
install procedures and/or updating schedule, I have been bitten by this in
the past.

I finally did setup two 1-RAIDed identical partitions and installed the
system on the rest of both disks... Now my system won't boot if one disk is
broken, but I hope I can go rescue into the data. I was formerly hoping to
rely on RAID to protect the full install and simplify my life, but I was
discouraged away by 1) and 2).

I have yet to see a real RAID controller... At what price do they start off?

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Re: [CentOS] Extended characters not working on CentOS

2008-07-29 Thread William L. Maltby

On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 13:49 -0700, MHR wrote:
> A friend of mine here at work pointed me at this web page
> www.fhlcell.org where there are a lot of Chinese characters on the
> page.
> 
> Interestingly enough, on my CentOS 5.2 system, with both Seamoneky
> 1.1.11 and Firefox 3.0, we were unable to get the characters to
> display properly (they showed up as the little four number boxes
> instead).
> 
> However, on his Ubuntu system, using Firefox, they displayed just
> fine.  Also, I just tested it in Win XP and both Seamonkey 1.1.11 and
> IE display it correctly.
> 
> What's going on?

I presume you need to load extensions that handle the characters. When I
set up FF 3, there were *many* extensions relating to languages.

I can't help beyond that.

> 
> mhr
> 

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Re: [CentOS] xfs on 5.2 (live cd + dvd)

2008-07-29 Thread Bill Campbell
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> Bill Campbell wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008, Florin Andrei wrote:
>>> Michael Kress wrote:
 I'm planning a server migration and being able to mount xfs file  
 systems with the live cd would be a cruical feature.
 So before I download and try ... can anyone tell me whether the xfs 
 is  included in the 5.2 live cd?
>>> Well, try "yum install" with the "xfs" string and various wildcards 
>>> and  you'll figure it out quickly.
>>>
 Under centos-4.5 I chose xfs for performance reasons. With 5.2, is 
 it  still the fs of choice when it comes to performance or do you 
 have  better recommendations? (It will be a combined web and mail 
 server with moderate traffic, i.e. not t much but not tooo 
 little).
>>> Performance is not "one", it's "many". There are so many different   
>>> scenarios and in most cases it's impossible to tell whether any given 
>>> FS  will perform better than another.
>>>
>>> XFS will likely perform better than other FS when you're dealing with 
>>>  large files, such as HD authoring and stuff like that. Even then, if 
>>> you  want to be sure, it's probably best to do some benchmarks.
>>
>> While I have used xfs for years on SuSE systems, and have it on
>> several CentOS 5.1 systems, I will probably not use it on new
>> installations as ``yum update'' on the CentOS 5.1 systems now
>> fails saying it cannot update kmod-xfs.
>>
>> I prefer to keep things close to the LCD to avoid issues with
>> extensions that may not be updated in a timely manner.
>
> You should be able to update the xfs modules ... they are in the repo  
> (at least for 5.2 ... 5.1 is not going to get any updates any more and  
> is moving to vault soon);

Let's see now, CentOS is supposed to be an Enterprise distribution (or at
least a clone of one), but updates for something that's been out for about
6 months (5.1) won't be available?  Is this because the ``upstream'' isn't
providing updates?

Bill
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