RE: [CentOS] settings up cheap a NAS / SAN server, is it possible?

2008-06-30 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message-
>>> A cheap server: there are many different values of cheap; it all depends
>>> on what you need it for.
>>>
>>
>> Yupp, break down the requirements into the following three options:
>>
>> * Good
>> * Fast
>> * Cheap
>>
>> Pick any *two*. You can never ever have all three. It's a natural law or
>> something. 8-)
>>
>Sure, SATA isn't as fast as SCSI, so I sacrifice that, but SCSI won't
>give me the same space (3TB) as SATA either. So, a gigabyte mobo + 6x
>1TB SATA HDD's + 4GB RAM + 2.8Ghz Core 2 Duo isn't too bad?

I think your requirements above fall in under "cheap" and "fast". Good in this
case is rather subjective, as SCSI is normally what you want for this kind of
storage. 

At work I initially started out with raided scsi-drives for backups and
file-servers whenever I could, but I've lately gone almost completely over to
SATA2-drives with NCQ-features. I get almost the same performance, at a better
price and the MTBF is normally quite good if you chose the right drive-brands.
This too is fast and cheap, although with some caveats visavi longevity. I
think however as long as you have some kind of backup-plan, this isn't really
an issue. With that said, I'd also like to mention we don't do tape-backups
any more. The data-mass is just to much. We use only online-backuping to hd
and rotate the used space as necessary.

What were you going to use this storage server for again? Some kind of
user-homefolder area, backup  or such like?

On a different note, our users at the dept' have available a Windows Server
for their homefolder-space. I run this on a low-end Fujitsu-Siemens Primergy
Econel 100-server, with 3x 500GB SATA2/320-drives in Raid0-fashion. The 3x
drives were actually more expensive than the whole server when I bought it
some two years ago. The CPU is a Pentium D at 2,8GHz and has 2GB RAM IIRC. The
price total for this solution was very competitive for us at the time in
Sweden, so you might maybe want to look into the Fujitsu-range low-end
server-line as well.

The Econel-series are as I understand it a sort of hefty
workstation-on-steroids with some server-features included, you kinda' get a
server-workstation hybrid. Look into it and compare prices, you might find
something there.

IMHO, the Econel is the best Good/Cheap/Fast-combo you're likely to find.

HTH.


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RE: [CentOS] settings up cheap a NAS / SAN server, is it possible?

2008-06-30 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of
>Rainer Duffner
>Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 12:27 AM
>To: CentOS mailing list
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] settings up cheap a NAS / SAN server, is it possible?
>
 Actually, the calculation is that it needs a GB of RAM for every
 TB of
>> managed data.
>>
>> How do you reckon this? Ie, what's the basic assumption(s) for the
>> statement?
>> Parity calculations for stripes or what? I don't follow.
>>
>> I can't say I've ever heard any such like, so please do enlighten me!
>>
>
>
>It used to be written in the solarisinternals.com wiki - but I can't
>seem to find it anymore.
>
>ZFS is a moving target, in some ways, so the requirements may have
>changed or are no longer that simple.
>
>But it made sense in the early days, when SUN's thumper (X4500, 2*DC
>Opteron, 48 disks, 16 GB RAM) more or less fit the requirements
>perfectly.

Gotcha', thx!



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[CentOS] Rebuild of kernel 2.6.9-67.0.20.EL failure

2008-06-30 Thread John
Hello list.

I'm trying to rebuild the 2.6.9.67.0.20.EL kernel, but it fails even without 
modifications.
How did I try it?
Created a (non-root) build environment (not a mock )
Installed the kernel.scr.rpm and did a
rpmbuild -ba --target=`uname -m` kernel-2.6.spec 2> prep-err.log | tee 
prep-out.log
The build failed at the end:

Processing files: kernel-xenU-devel-2.6.9-67.0.20.EL
Checking for unpackaged file(s): /usr/lib/rpm/check-files 
/home/john/rpmbuild/tmp/kernel-2.6.9-67.0.20.EL-root


RPM build errors:


In my setup rebuilding the 2.6.9-67.0.15.EL kernel went ok

Does anybody knows what I do miss or what is going wrong?


For the curios:
Why to recompile the kernel?
I want to rebuild the kernel because I created a patch to decrease the 
kernel timer frequency from 1000 to 100 HZ. The CentOS4.6 kernel doesn't 
have the divider option available in CentOS5.2  This prevent timing problems 
and high CPU load  in VMware ESX.










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[CentOS] Yum repository for bacula for CentOS 5?

2008-06-30 Thread Kevin Thorpe
Can anyone point me at a yum repository containing a CentOS 5 version of 
bacula?


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Re: [CentOS] Yogunluk

2008-06-30 Thread William L. Maltby

On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 17:06 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 9:15 PM, Michael A. Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 

> 
> Michael: I thought the job of Marketing people (or so they would like
> to think) is to give the Engineering staff a set of specs, a budget

s/specs/incomplete, inaccurate, rapidly changing, and irrelevant &/
s/budget/inadequate &/

# You omitted important specifications of tha problem - are you in
# marketing? ;-)  =:-O

>  and a time frame, that probably cannot be met; while promising
> everything to the customer, to get the sale. Lanny


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Re: [CentOS] Rebuild of kernel 2.6.9-67.0.20.EL failure

2008-06-30 Thread Johnny Hughes

John wrote:

Hello list.

I'm trying to rebuild the 2.6.9.67.0.20.EL kernel, but it fails even without 
modifications.

How did I try it?
Created a (non-root) build environment (not a mock )
Installed the kernel.scr.rpm and did a
rpmbuild -ba --target=`uname -m` kernel-2.6.spec 2> prep-err.log | tee 
prep-out.log

The build failed at the end:

Processing files: kernel-xenU-devel-2.6.9-67.0.20.EL
Checking for unpackaged file(s): /usr/lib/rpm/check-files 
/home/john/rpmbuild/tmp/kernel-2.6.9-67.0.20.EL-root



RPM build errors:


In my setup rebuilding the 2.6.9-67.0.15.EL kernel went ok

Does anybody knows what I do miss or what is going wrong?


For the curios:
Why to recompile the kernel?
I want to rebuild the kernel because I created a patch to decrease the 
kernel timer frequency from 1000 to 100 HZ. The CentOS4.6 kernel doesn't 
have the divider option available in CentOS5.2  This prevent timing problems 
and high CPU load  in VMware ESX.


OK .. it obviously does rebuild, not sure why it is not building for you.

However, you don't need to rebuild this yourself as we are building a 
kernel-vm that has this as its only change (change the clock from 1000Hz 
to 100Hz):


http://people.centos.org/tru/kernel-vm/4/RPMS/i386/



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Re: [CentOS] RE: CentOS Digest, Vol 41, Issue 29

2008-06-30 Thread Johnny Hughes

Matt Seitz (matseitz) wrote:

From: Johnny Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

In this case you DO NOT want to integrate these changes 

[...]
This issue was caused in CentOS-4 (a /etc/passwd.rpmnew file) 
due to an 
update to the "setup" rpm in March ... and in this case, you can 
remove/ignore that file.


Thank you for explaining all of this.  Is this issue documented somewhere?


No, just on this list.



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Re: [CentOS] Moving logical volumes

2008-06-30 Thread William L. Maltby

On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 08:16 +0200, Frank Büttner wrote:
> William L. Maltby schrieb:
> >

> Yes vgmerge, can do the job.
> Thanks.

NP. Just as an FYI, at command line, do lvm. Then type help. That gives
a nice little "index" to available commands. Then, at command line, a
"man " gives more detail.

As a side note, if one did need to physically copy the data, pvmove
might be useful. It has checkpoint restart, so providing a relatively
secure way of doing that job. Of course, backups are always advisable
because all hardware, in my experience, has an undocumented "FLOP" (Fail
at Least Opportune Point) feature. =:-O

> 
> Frank
> 

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Re: [CentOS] system-auth.rpmnew

2008-06-30 Thread Kai Schaetzl
William L. Maltby wrote on Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:09:17 -0400:

> IMO, it's never OK w/o first examining the effects. The rpmnew is
> provided specifically because replacing the previous one may be highly
> destructive to the aims of that system's users/admins.
> 
> I've not looked, but I suspect the rpmnew needs to be compared to the
> target of the symlink.

That's the point and why I'm asking. I think the rpmnew got created 
because the target is a symlink (I think normally rpm overwrites a config 
file if it has not been changed from the previous version, this obviously 
is bound to fail in this case). The question now is, should it have 
actually replaced system-auth-ca, was the symlink incorrect in the first 
place, should there be both system-auth and system-auth-ca be available in 
parallel, or what? I don't know for what exactly both or just one of the 
files gets used, I can just assume it's some authorization. And ca file 
might get used when authorizing with a certificate (remote or with a 
card?).
I don't find myself in a position to assess the difference between the 
files and what it means for security. The main difference between the 
files seems to be something about user-ids above/below 500.


Kai

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Re: [CentOS] Yum repository for bacula for CentOS 5?

2008-06-30 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 2:49 AM, Kevin Thorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can anyone point me at a yum repository containing a CentOS 5 version of
> bacula?

Check out the EPEL repository.  Please see (near the bottom):

http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories
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[CentOS] kernel-smp for CentOS 5

2008-06-30 Thread James Marcinek
Hello All,

I recently installed CentOS 5 and was trying to locate the kernel-smp packages 
but without success. Have these packages been removed from the distro or 
renamed? Does anyone know how many processors the default kernel will handle 
and if it's optimzed for it?

Thanks,

james
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Re: [CentOS] kernel-smp for CentOS 5

2008-06-30 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 5:02 AM, James Marcinek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I recently installed CentOS 5 and was trying to locate the kernel-smp 
> packages but without success. Have these packages been removed from the 
> distro or renamed? Does anyone know how many processors the default kernel 
> will handle and if it's optimzed for it?

All CentOS-5 kernels are smp enabled.  For "how many processors" etc,
please see:

http://www.centos.org/product.html

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Re: [CentOS] kernel-smp for CentOS 5

2008-06-30 Thread Max Hetrick

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James Marcinek wrote:

| I recently installed CentOS 5 and was trying to locate the kernel-smp
packages but without success. Have these packages been removed from the
distro or renamed? Does anyone know how many processors the default
kernel will handle and if it's optimzed for it?



This should answer your questions.

http://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/CentOS5#head-d70935212ce3b7b072b0075c1807a4bd3ea175b7

Regards,
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Re: [CentOS] system-auth.rpmnew

2008-06-30 Thread William L. Maltby

On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 13:14 +0200, Kai Schaetzl wrote:
> William L. Maltby wrote on Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:09:17 -0400:
> 
> > IMO, it's never OK w/o first examining the effects. The rpmnew is
> > provided specifically because replacing the previous one may be highly
> > destructive to the aims of that system's users/admins.
> > 
> > I've not looked, but I suspect the rpmnew needs to be compared to the
> > target of the symlink.
> 
> That's the point and why I'm asking. I think the rpmnew got created 
> because the target is a symlink (I think normally rpm overwrites a config 
> file if it has not been changed from the previous version, this obviously 
> is bound to fail in this case). The question now is, should it have 

I'm not sure if it being a symlink is a determinant. Nor am I sure about
"if modified". I do recall rpmnew files being created when no symlink
was involved (caveat: wetware memory is highly unreliable).

In cases where an rpmnew was not created, there is often an rpmsave.
This is a copy of the file that was replaced. IIRC, it does not matter
if the original was previously modified or not.

My SOP is: after updates, run updatedb, do locate for rpmnew and
rpmsave, examine for differences between found and originals/related
files, adjust as needed.

As a former developer, I would suspect that I would *not* try to
determine creation of files based on a test for modification of the
original. It would increase the complexity and unreliability of the
update process (would it approach the unreliability of depending on the
user/admin to properly examine and adjust? Probably not.) and go counter
to the innate laziness of us all. Combine the two factors and a strong
argument is made against trying to detect changed base files.

Ditto for symlinks.

Having said all that, the scripted yum/rpm update processes may
incorporate that detection process. I don't know.


> actually replaced system-auth-ca, was the symlink incorrect in the first 
> place, should there be both system-auth and system-auth-ca be available in 

Using the yum or rpm facilities that tells what package provides the
file or symlink should help. I think it's --provides or whatprovides or
somesuch. Man pages will tell you.

> parallel, or what? I don't know for what exactly both or just one of the 
> files gets used, I can just assume it's some authorization. And ca file 
> might get used when authorizing with a certificate (remote or with a 
> card?).
> I don't find myself in a position to assess the difference between the 
> files and what it means for security. The main difference between the 
> files seems to be something about user-ids above/below 500.

That becomes a case of hoping there are adequate man pages. Even if not,
if you compare the old and new and determine what you state above, it's
likely that the update is OK to apply. YMMV, of course.

> 
> 
> Kai
> 

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Re: [CentOS] system-auth.rpmnew

2008-06-30 Thread Toby Bluhm

Kai Schaetzl wrote:

William L. Maltby wrote on Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:09:17 -0400:

  

IMO, it's never OK w/o first examining the effects. The rpmnew is
provided specifically because replacing the previous one may be highly
destructive to the aims of that system's users/admins.

I've not looked, but I suspect the rpmnew needs to be compared to the
target of the symlink.



That's the point and why I'm asking. I think the rpmnew got created 
because the target is a symlink (I think normally rpm overwrites a config 
file if it has not been changed from the previous version, this obviously 
is bound to fail in this case). The question now is, should it have 
actually replaced system-auth-ca, was the symlink incorrect in the first 
place, should there be both system-auth and system-auth-ca be available in 
parallel, or what? I don't know for what exactly both or just one of the 
files gets used, I can just assume it's some authorization. And ca file 
might get used when authorizing with a certificate (remote or with a 
card?).
I don't find myself in a position to assess the difference between the 
files and what it means for security. The main difference between the 
files seems to be something about user-ids above/below 500.



  


I don't see a system-auth-ca on my 4 Centos5 systems.

My 3 systems still at C5.1 show the same:

ls -als /etc/pam.d/system-auth*

4 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  14 May 10  2007 /etc/pam.d/system-auth -> 
system-auth-ac

8 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 848 May 10  2007 /etc/pam.d/system-auth-ac
4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 683 Nov 10  2007 /etc/pam.d/system-auth.rpmnew

rpm -q --whatprovides /etc/pam.d/system-auth
pam-0.99.6.2-3.26.el5

rpm -q --whatprovides /etc/pam.d/system-auth-ac
authconfig-5.3.12-2.el5


My test box at C5.2:

ls -als /etc/pam.d/system-auth*

4 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  14 May 20 09:09 /etc/pam.d/system-auth -> 
system-auth-ac

8 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 844 May 20 09:09 /etc/pam.d/system-auth-ac
4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 683 May 24 13:35 /etc/pam.d/system-auth.rpmnew

rpm -q --whatprovides /etc/pam.d/system-auth
pam-0.99.6.2-3.27.el5

rpm -q --whatprovides /etc/pam.d/system-auth-ac
authconfig-5.3.21-3.el5



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Re: [CentOS] system-auth.rpmnew

2008-06-30 Thread Stephen Harris
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 08:54:29AM -0400, Toby Bluhm wrote:
> ls -als /etc/pam.d/system-auth*
> 
> 4 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  14 May 10  2007 /etc/pam.d/system-auth -> 
> system-auth-ac
> 8 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 848 May 10  2007 /etc/pam.d/system-auth-ac

system-auth-ac is the results of running authconfig and so could change
if you want md5 passwords or whatever.  system-auth should point to the -ac
version if you want authconfig to work.

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[CentOS] Pidgin problem on 5.2

2008-06-30 Thread fred smith
Having a problem with Pidgin that may have come after the 5.2 upgrade.
I don't use pidgin daily, but the last time I used it (a week or two ago)
it was fine. Now, when clicking the icon nothing visible happens. When I
open an xterm and run it from there I get this:

$ pidgin
libnm_glib_nm_state_cb: dbus returned an error.
  (org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown) The name 
org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files

and the terminal does not return to a prompt. there is no visible window
for Pidgin, but parts of it may be running, as I heard the sound that (I
think) means "buddy comes online".

running "ps ax | grep -y pidgin" returns one process, so it's not entirely
kaput.

Anyone else seem this, or anyone have suggestions?

Oh, also, I've recently enabled "desktop effects". I think I'll disable that
and see if it helps.

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Re: [CentOS] system-auth.rpmnew

2008-06-30 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Toby Bluhm wrote on Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:54:29 -0400:

> rpm -q --whatprovides /etc/pam.d/system-auth
> pam-0.99.6.2-3.27.el5
> 
> rpm -q --whatprovides /etc/pam.d/system-auth-ac
> authconfig-5.3.21-3.el5

So, possible conclusion: they want to make pam self-sufficient, thus 
replacing the symlink to a file that comes with authconfig with their own 
file.

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Re: [CentOS] Pidgin problem on 5.2

2008-06-30 Thread fred smith
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 09:30:42AM -0400, fred smith wrote:
> Having a problem with Pidgin that may have come after the 5.2 upgrade.
> I don't use pidgin daily, but the last time I used it (a week or two ago)
> it was fine. Now, when clicking the icon nothing visible happens. When I
> open an xterm and run it from there I get this:
> 
> $ pidgin
> libnm_glib_nm_state_cb: dbus returned an error.
>   (org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown) The name 
> org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files
> 
> and the terminal does not return to a prompt. there is no visible window
> for Pidgin, but parts of it may be running, as I heard the sound that (I
> think) means "buddy comes online".
> 
> running "ps ax | grep -y pidgin" returns one process, so it's not entirely
> kaput.
> 
> Anyone else seem this, or anyone have suggestions?
> 
> Oh, also, I've recently enabled "desktop effects". I think I'll disable that
> and see if it helps.

No, turning desktop effects back off makes no difference. same result
as described above.

Suggestions welcome.
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Re: [CentOS] Pidgin problem on 5.2

2008-06-30 Thread Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 09:33 -0400, fred smith wrote:
> Suggestions welcome.

Add a Notification Area to your panel, or look there if you already have
one.

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[CentOS] INIT 5 and system is gone

2008-06-30 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I had been running a system on Centos 5.1 at INIT 3.  I did the upgrade 
to Centos 5.2 with the aid of the powernowk8 patch.


Previously I would VNC into the unit when I needed to do admin stuff 
with a GUI.  Well I noticed that I was NOT getting GNOME via VNC since 
the upgrade (worked before just fine with 5.1).  So I tried an INIT 5 
from the command line (always worked before), but the system seemed to 
hang.  Video was off.


I rebooted, went to INITTAB and changed init to 5 and rebooted.  
Probably a tragic mistake.


Now on boot, right after UDEV gets an OK, the screen goes blank and the 
drive stops turning.


I tried booting with the 5.1 kernel, and same behaviour with the system 
blanking out and all load activity stopping after UDEV loads.


So I am quite stuck at this point.

Is there an option that I can edit into the kernel command at boot time 
to init in 3?  And then what do I try?


If I have to reload Centos, I have to pull the drive, put it into 
another system, install there, etc.  Not my idea of a fun day



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[CentOS] kickstart and lang

2008-06-30 Thread Jerry Geis

I have a line like:

lang en_US.UTF-8

in my kickstart file. However it stops on that screen to prompt me.
Everything else works fine... I am using centos 4.6.
Is this line no longer correct? I am sure I got it from a anaconda file 
to start with.


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Re: [CentOS] INIT 5 and system is gone

2008-06-30 Thread Paul Schoonderwoerd
On Monday 30 June 2008 16:33:32 Robert Moskowitz wrote:

> Is there an option that I can edit into the kernel command at boot time
> to init in 3?  And then what do I try?
>
> If I have to reload Centos, I have to pull the drive, put it into
> another system, install there, etc.  Not my idea of a fun day

In the grub system menu you can type e for edit and append a 3 on the line 
that starts with 'kernel'. Then type b to boot this entry and it should boot 
in runlevel 3. Then change back the inittab and try startx to start Xwindows. 
If that fails look in the X logfile for the reason.

Regards,
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[CentOS] where is ProxyHTMLURLMap for C5 ?

2008-06-30 Thread tblader

Hello,
I'm setting up a reverse proxy in Apache (httpd-2.2.3-11.el5_1.centos.3)

I have some pages being served which contain hard-coded names of machines
behind the proxy, which obviously do not resolve on the client side.

I found an Apache config item called ProxyHTMLURLMap* which supposedly
will allow me to re-write these hostnames, but can't seem to find the
apache module to install

Starting httpd: 'ProxyHTMLURLMap', perhaps misspelled or defined
by a module not included in the server configuration

Anyone know what the name of that rpm/module is for Centos 5?
Thanks!

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Re: [CentOS] INIT 5 and system is gone

2008-06-30 Thread Michel van Deventer
Hi,

On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 10:33 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> I had been running a system on Centos 5.1 at INIT 3.  I did the upgrade 
> to Centos 5.2 with the aid of the powernowk8 patch.
> 
> Previously I would VNC into the unit when I needed to do admin stuff 
> with a GUI.  Well I noticed that I was NOT getting GNOME via VNC since 
> the upgrade (worked before just fine with 5.1).  So I tried an INIT 5 
> from the command line (always worked before), but the system seemed to 
> hang.  Video was off.
> 
> I rebooted, went to INITTAB and changed init to 5 and rebooted.  
> Probably a tragic mistake.
> 
> Now on boot, right after UDEV gets an OK, the screen goes blank and the 
> drive stops turning.
> 
> I tried booting with the 5.1 kernel, and same behaviour with the system 
> blanking out and all load activity stopping after UDEV loads.
> 
> So I am quite stuck at this point.
> 
> Is there an option that I can edit into the kernel command at boot time 
> to init in 3?  And then what do I try?
Reboot your system, when you see the grub menu, press a key. Select the
kernel you wish to boot and press 'e', select the kernel line, press 'e'
again and add '3' at the end of the line (or '1' if you wish to boot in
single user mode). Then press  and 'b' to boot. Your system
should now boot up in level 3. You can log in as root at the login
prompt. If that even doesn't work, the reboot in single user mode.

For the rest, we first need
logfiles, /var/log/messages /var/log/boot.log and
maybe /var/log/Xorg.0.log

Regards,

Michel



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Re: [CentOS] kickstart and lang

2008-06-30 Thread Sergey Podushkin

Jerry Geis wrote:

I have a line like:

lang en_US.UTF-8

in my kickstart file. However it stops on that screen to prompt me.
Everything else works fine... I am using centos 4.6.
Is this line no longer correct? I am sure I got it from a anaconda file 
to start with.

It seems that only

lang en_US

will be correct (but undocumented, though).
may be anaconda source can uncover this feature/bug...

Sergey
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[CentOS] What are these TCP errors telling me?

2008-06-30 Thread Sam Drinkard
Lately, the error messages below have been showing up in the log for the 
past 3 days.  Is something broken, or someone trying to break in or 
what?  I'm completely clueless about this.  If you could, since I'm 
receiving the list in digest form, cc a copy directly to me?  Many thanks...


Sam


**Unmatched Entries**
  dispatch 0x8c84f40: shutting down due to TCP receive error: connection reset: 
1 Time(s)
  dispatch 0x8cbbb40: shutting down due to TCP receive error: connection reset: 
1 Time(s)
  dispatch 0x8cccf40: shutting down due to TCP receive error: connection reset: 
1 Time(s)
  dispatch 0x8d17d28: shutting down due to TCP receive error: connection reset: 
1 Time(s)
  dispatch 0x8e786a8: shutting down due to TCP receive error: connection reset: 
1 Time(s)


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Re: [CentOS] kickstart and lang

2008-06-30 Thread nate
Sergey Podushkin wrote:

> It seems that only
>
> lang en_US
>
> will be correct (but undocumented, though).
> may be anaconda source can uncover this feature/bug...

I have this in my CentOS 4.6 kickstart configs and it doesn't
prompt me:

lang en_US.UTF-8
langsupport --default en_US.UTF-8 en_US.UTF-8

after installing my /etc/sysconfig/i18n has
LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
SUPPORTED="en_US.UTF-8:en_US:en"

in it

Maybe the 2nd line langsupport is needed, not sure. The previous
places I worked at just used en_US, not UTF.

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[CentOS] Re: Rebuild of kernel 2.6.9-67.0.20.EL failure

2008-06-30 Thread John
John wrote:
> Hello list.
>
> I'm trying to rebuild the 2.6.9.67.0.20.EL kernel, but it fails even 
> without
> modifications.

cut.cut


For the curios:
> Why to recompile the kernel?
> I want to rebuild the kernel because I created a patch to decrease the
> kernel timer frequency from 1000 to 100 HZ. The CentOS4.6 kernel doesn't
> have the divider option available in CentOS5.2  This prevent timing 
> problems
> and high CPU load  in VMware ESX.

OK .. it obviously does rebuild, not sure why it is not building for you.

However, you don't need to rebuild this yourself as we are building a
kernel-vm that has this as its only change (change the clock from 1000Hz
to 100Hz):

http://people.centos.org/tru/kernel-vm/4/RPMS/i386/

Ok,
When will these RPMS be available in the (plus?) repo?

Tip for the ESX users:
When using a kernel with a modified name, the VMware-config-tools.pl script 
"thinks" there is no fitting binary module present, and want to compile a 
module for the running kernel. But after compilation the script runs dead, 
because the pcnet32.ko module won't unload The script then waits 
forever
When running the VMware-config-tools.pl with the -t option, it tries every 
module, and will come to the conclusion that the binary available module 
fits nicely... At that point there are also no unload problems...

John












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Re: [CentOS] INIT 5 and system is gone

2008-06-30 Thread Robert Moskowitz

Michel van Deventer wrote:

Hi,

On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 10:33 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
  
I had been running a system on Centos 5.1 at INIT 3.  I did the upgrade 
to Centos 5.2 with the aid of the powernowk8 patch.


Previously I would VNC into the unit when I needed to do admin stuff 
with a GUI.  Well I noticed that I was NOT getting GNOME via VNC since 
the upgrade (worked before just fine with 5.1).  So I tried an INIT 5 
from the command line (always worked before), but the system seemed to 
hang.  Video was off.


I rebooted, went to INITTAB and changed init to 5 and rebooted.  
Probably a tragic mistake.


Now on boot, right after UDEV gets an OK, the screen goes blank and the 
drive stops turning.


I tried booting with the 5.1 kernel, and same behaviour with the system 
blanking out and all load activity stopping after UDEV loads.


So I am quite stuck at this point.

Is there an option that I can edit into the kernel command at boot time 
to init in 3?  And then what do I try?


Reboot your system, when you see the grub menu, press a key. Select the
kernel you wish to boot and press 'e', select the kernel line, press 'e'
again and add '3' at the end of the line (or '1' if you wish to boot in
single user mode). Then press  and 'b' to boot. Your system
should now boot up in level 3. You can log in as root at the login
prompt. If that even doesn't work, the reboot in single user mode.
  

Thanks that got me back in.

For the rest, we first need
logfiles, /var/log/messages /var/log/boot.log 

Nothing.  boot.log is completely empty no-one home.

For messages, the boot with init 5 had NO entries.  As if the crash 
occured before the first entry would be written.  And running startx did 
not result in anything in messages either.

and
maybe /var/log/Xorg.0.log
Now here we might have something.  There is only one likely entry in 
Xorg.0.log from friday, it seems.  It looks like from the time I tried 
init 5 from the command line:


X Window System Version 7.1.1
Release Date: 12 May 2006
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.1.1
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.18-53.1.14.el5PAE i686 Red Hat, Inc.
Current Operating System: Linux decTOP1.htt-consult.com 
2.6.18-92.1.6.el5.bz_pre53 #1 SMP Thu Jun 26 12:08:44 EDT 2008 i586

Build Date: 21 June 2008
Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.1.1-48.41.el5_2.1
   Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
   to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
   (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
   (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Fri Jun 27 14:47:28 2008
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(==) ServerLayout "single head configuration"
(**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "Monitor0"
(**) |   |-->Device "Videocard0"
(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0"
(==) |-->Input Device ""
(==) The core pointer device wasn't specified explicitly in the layout.
   Using the default mouse configuration.
(==) No FontPath specified.  Using compiled-in default.
(==) FontPath set to:
   unix/:7100,
   built-ins
(==) RgbPath set to "/usr/share/X11/rgb"
(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
(WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)
(II) No APM support in BIOS or kernel
(II) Module ABI versions:
   X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.3
   X.Org Video Driver: 1.0
   X.Org XInput driver : 0.6
   X.Org Server Extension : 0.3
   X.Org Font Renderer : 0.5
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: "bitmap"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/fonts/libbitmap.so

Perhaps I should try this again and see if I get another update in this 
log file


Anyway, something is really wrong here!  Help, please?


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Re: [CentOS] kernel-smp for CentOS 5

2008-06-30 Thread James Marcinek
Thanks! 

- Original Message -
From: "Max Hetrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CentOS mailing list" 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 8:08:34 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [CentOS] kernel-smp for CentOS 5

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| I recently installed CentOS 5 and was trying to locate the kernel-smp
packages but without success. Have these packages been removed from the
distro or renamed? Does anyone know how many processors the default
kernel will handle and if it's optimzed for it?



This should answer your questions.

http://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/CentOS5#head-d70935212ce3b7b072b0075c1807a4bd3ea175b7

Regards,
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Re: [CentOS] INIT 5 and system is gone

2008-06-30 Thread Robert Moskowitz

Michel van Deventer wrote:

On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 10:33 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
  
I had been running a system on Centos 5.1 at INIT 3.  I did the upgrade 
to Centos 5.2 with the aid of the powernowk8 patch.


Previously I would VNC into the unit when I needed to do admin stuff 
with a GUI.  Well I noticed that I was NOT getting GNOME via VNC since 
the upgrade (worked before just fine with 5.1).  So I tried an INIT 5 
from the command line (always worked before), but the system seemed to 
hang.  Video was off.


I rebooted, went to INITTAB and changed init to 5 and rebooted.  
Probably a tragic mistake.


Now on boot, right after UDEV gets an OK, the screen goes blank and the 
drive stops turning.


..

For the rest, we first need
logfiles, /var/log/messages /var/log/boot.log and
maybe /var/log/Xorg.0.log
  

I just tried:

system-config-display from the command line.

With 5.1 this would start  X so that I could set the proper display, 
then exit X when I exited the display config.  I had to use this, as 
with 5.1 I had to do the install with the drive in another box.  So I 
KNOW this worked in 5.1


Now I just hang.  And NOTHING is written to any log file.

Any advice?

Oh, and here is another 'hint'.  Here is the vnc log:


Xvnc Free Edition 4.1.2
Copyright (C) 2002-2005 RealVNC Ltd.
See http://www.realvnc.com for information on VNC.
Underlying X server release 70101000, The X.Org Foundation


Fri Jun 27 14:45:04 2008
vncext:  VNC extension running!
vncext:  Listening for VNC connections on port 5907
vncext:  Listening for HTTP connections on port 5807
vncext:  created VNC server for screen 0
Could not init font path element /usr/share/X11/fonts/OTF, removing from 
list!
Could not init font path element /usr/share/X11/fonts/CID/, removing 
from list!

SESSION_MANAGER=local/decTOP1.htt-consult.com:/tmp/.ICE-unix/4657
Window manager warning: Log level 32: could not find XKB extension.

** (eggcups:4777): WARNING **: IPP request failed with status 1030

** (eggcups:4777): WARNING **: IPP request failed with status 1030
Initializing nautilus-open-terminal extension
Unable to open desktop file /usr/share/applications/redhat-email.desktop 
for panel launcher: No such file or directory
Unable to open desktop file 
/usr/share/applications/openoffice.org-1.9-writer.desktop for panel 
launcher: No such file or directory
Unable to open desktop file 
/usr/share/applications/openoffice.org-1.9-impress.desktop for panel 
launcher: No such file or directory
Unable to open desktop file 
/usr/share/applications/openoffice.org-1.9-calc.desktop for panel 
launcher: No such file or directory

Introspect error: Activation of com.redhat.setroubleshoot timed out
xterm:  fatal IO error 32 (Broken pipe) or KillClient on X server ":2.0"
Window manager warning: Lost connection to the display ':2.0';
most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed
the window manager.

(gnome-panel:4745): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Failed to re-activate 
daemon: Connection was disconnected before a reply was received

could not attach to desktop process
The application 'nm-applet' lost its connection to the display :2.0;
most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed
the application.
The application 'pam-panel-icon' lost its connection to the display :2.0;
most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed
the application.
The application 'gnome-panel' lost its connection to the display :2.0;
most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed
the application.
The application 'nautilus' lost its connection to the display :2.0;
most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed
the application.

(gnome-panel:4745): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_run_dispose: 
assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed


(gnome-panel:4745): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_run_dispose: 
assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed


(gnome-panel:4745): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_run_dispose: 
assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

X connection to :2.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).

(pam-panel-icon:5102): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: 
Window manager error: Unable to open X display :2.0


(eggcups:5098): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :2.0
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Re: [CentOS] Pidgin problem on 5.2

2008-06-30 Thread fred smith
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:06:28AM -0400, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 09:33 -0400, fred smith wrote:
> > Suggestions welcome.
> 
> Add a Notification Area to your panel, or look there if you already have
> one.

OK, done that. Now what?

Nothing happens there when I try to start pidgin. What should I be seeing?

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Re: [CentOS] Pidgin problem on 5.2

2008-06-30 Thread Rodney Myers

On Jun 30, 2008, at 9:16 AM, fred smith wrote:

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:06:28AM -0400, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams  
wrote:

On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 09:33 -0400, fred smith wrote:

Suggestions welcome.


Add a Notification Area to your panel, or look there if you already  
have

one.


OK, done that. Now what?

Nothing happens there when I try to start pidgin. What should I be  
seeing?


Can you attempt to start it from the shell, and let us know what  
happens?


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Re: [CentOS] Yogunluk

2008-06-30 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 5:08 AM, William L. Maltby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>
> 
> > Michael: I thought the job of Marketing people (or so they would like
> > to think) is to give the Engineering staff a set of specs, a budget
>
> s/specs/incomplete, inaccurate, rapidly changing, and irrelevant &/
> s/budget/inadequate &/
>
> # You omitted important specifications of tha problem - are you in
> # marketing? ;-)  =:-O


No. I worked in R&D (mostly Aerospace) and I'm now trying to reenter the job
market. Almost always, I found that those of us in Engineering  were trying
to comply with requirements that Marketing had given away to the customer
and we couldn't complete the task within their time frame or budget.
Marketing will do anything (usually) to make the sale and then the Engineers
try to get it done on time and within the budget. Remember the comparison
between Engineers and Mushrooms..
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Re: [CentOS] Sendmail with Google Apps SMTP

2008-06-30 Thread Chris Boyd


On Jun 28, 2008, at 1:58 PM, John R Pierce wrote:

complicated by google requirnig TLA authentication and SSL on a  
nonstandard port for SMTP relaying.


Port 587 _is_ the standard port for mail submission to an MTA.

http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2476.txt
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4409.txt
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc5068.txt

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Re: [CentOS] settings up cheap a NAS / SAN server, is it possible?

2008-06-30 Thread David Mackintosh
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 09:08:15AM +0200, Rudi Ahlers wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> I want to look at setting up a simple / cheap SAN / NAS server using 
> normal PIV motherboard, 2GB (or even more) RAM, Core 2 Duo CPU (probably 
> a Intel 6700 / 6750 / 6800) & some SATA HDD's (4 or 6x 320GB - 750GB). 
> My budget is limited, so I can't afford a pre-built NAS device.
 
My own experience: I have done two NAS systems using CentOS.  One is
a HP DL585G1 with four 300GB drives using a hardware RAID-5.  The
second is a Dell PowerEdge 2600 with four 300GB drives (software
raid-10) and two 32GB drives (software raid-1).  

One has a multi-core Opteron processor, the other has a high-end
Xeon processor with HT disabled.  Both have 2GB of RAM.

Both are used by high-demand compute processes as NFS servers.

Despite a lot of fidding, configuring, testing and tuning, neither
result is very good when it comes to NFS performance.  We've gone
so far as to run everything as noatime (ie local mount, nfs export,
and nfs client mount) hoping for better performance.

In comparing the systems we tried the hardware-RAID5 first on the 
assumption that HW-Raid5 is faster than SW-Raid, for a higher yield
than Raid-10.  However we don't think that the elevator used in the
kernel makes intelligent stepping decisions on the HW-Raid5 because
it doesn't see the "real" geometry of the disks involved, only the
aparrent geometry of the RAID5 disk.

The Software-Raid10 is better in some ways because the kernel sees
the real disk geometries.  Performance is about on par with the 
other computer, even though the other computer has the better CPU.

Due to the hardware involved I couldn't try Solaris 10, but we have
had experiences in the past where the NFS server on Solaris was
significantly better than the NFS server in CentOS/RedHat, both in
terms of throughput and perceved latency under load.

If I was doing it again, I'd push harder for a budget for a NetApp
filer.  For what we are attempting to do, you get what you pay for.

If I was doing it again with the budget restrictions, I'd probably 
try Solaris with software raid.  I would then try the *BSD family,
but only after Solaris because I have extensive Solaris experience.

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RE: [CentOS] settings up cheap a NAS / SAN server, is it possible?

2008-06-30 Thread Ross S. W. Walker
David Mackintosh wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 09:08:15AM +0200, Rudi Ahlers wrote:
> > Hi all
> > 
> > I want to look at setting up a simple / cheap SAN / NAS server using 
> > normal PIV motherboard, 2GB (or even more) RAM, Core 2 Duo CPU (probably 
> > a Intel 6700 / 6750 / 6800) & some SATA HDD's (4 or 6x 320GB - 750GB). 
> > My budget is limited, so I can't afford a pre-built NAS device.
>  
> My own experience: I have done two NAS systems using CentOS.  One is
> a HP DL585G1 with four 300GB drives using a hardware RAID-5.  The
> second is a Dell PowerEdge 2600 with four 300GB drives (software
> raid-10) and two 32GB drives (software raid-1).  
> 
> One has a multi-core Opteron processor, the other has a high-end
> Xeon processor with HT disabled.  Both have 2GB of RAM.
> 
> Both are used by high-demand compute processes as NFS servers.
> 
> Despite a lot of fidding, configuring, testing and tuning, neither
> result is very good when it comes to NFS performance.  We've gone
> so far as to run everything as noatime (ie local mount, nfs export,
> and nfs client mount) hoping for better performance.
> 
> In comparing the systems we tried the hardware-RAID5 first on the 
> assumption that HW-Raid5 is faster than SW-Raid, for a higher yield
> than Raid-10.  However we don't think that the elevator used in the
> kernel makes intelligent stepping decisions on the HW-Raid5 because
> it doesn't see the "real" geometry of the disks involved, only the
> aparrent geometry of the RAID5 disk.
> 
> The Software-Raid10 is better in some ways because the kernel sees
> the real disk geometries.  Performance is about on par with the 
> other computer, even though the other computer has the better CPU.
> 
> Due to the hardware involved I couldn't try Solaris 10, but we have
> had experiences in the past where the NFS server on Solaris was
> significantly better than the NFS server in CentOS/RedHat, both in
> terms of throughput and perceved latency under load.
> 
> If I was doing it again, I'd push harder for a budget for a NetApp
> filer.  For what we are attempting to do, you get what you pay for.
> 
> If I was doing it again with the budget restrictions, I'd probably 
> try Solaris with software raid.  I would then try the *BSD family,
> but only after Solaris because I have extensive Solaris experience.

On Linux storage servers that use RAID try elevator=deadline for
better io scheduling performance.

The default 'cfq' scheduler is really designed for single-disk
interactive workstation io patterns.

-Ross

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[CentOS] Lost mail

2008-06-30 Thread Anne Wilson
I did an update yesterday evening, and didn't spot that it had changed 
permissions on my .procmailrc.  Consequently no mail came in after that.  
I've been out most of today, so just got it fixed, but what will have 
happened to the mail for the missing period?  Maillog just shows that 
messages have been passed to procmail.  Procmail won't run if the perms are 
wrong, so where do the messages go?

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Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk from Redhat

2008-06-30 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:45 AM, Bazy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Is anyone using Spacewalk (http://www.redhat.com/spacewalk/) on CentOS 5 or 
> 4? What kind of hardware are you useing it on?
>

Spacewalk can work on VM's and real hardware. If you are doing
development or small deployment, you can use a virtual machine of some
kind. If you are looking at 50+ hosts, you may want to have hardware
instead.



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[CentOS] 64 bit aware CPU

2008-06-30 Thread Tom Brown
I dont think it is but would the following CPU be able to take a 64 bit 
version of CentOS ?


processor: 0
vendor_id: GenuineIntel
cpu family: 15
model: 2
model name: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz
stepping: 7
cpu MHz: 2401.247
cache size: 512 KB
physical id: 3
siblings: 2
core id: 3
cpu cores: 1
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug: no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu: yes
fpu_exception: yes
cpuid level: 2
wp: yes
flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov 
pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe cid xtpr

bogomips: 4799.31

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Re: [CentOS] 3ware performance in CentOS

2008-06-30 Thread Florin Andrei

Jim Perrin wrote:


Nope. This is just a long-standing performance thing. You can tune
ext3 to perform better, but on a 3ware card xfs will win, hands down.


Well, after performing more mental ruminations on this subject, 
restoring the database in case of a crash might be a pain, so I may have 
to avoid XFS in this particular case.


Can somebody recommend a RAID card, about the same price range like the 
3ware 9650SE, and with similar features, 8 SATA ports or more, that 
works well with CentOS 5 and does not have the Ext3 performance bug?


There's a bunch of cards out there, but I'd like to hear from someone 
with first-hand experience with one of them.


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Re: [CentOS] 64 bit aware CPU

2008-06-30 Thread Victor Padro
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Tom Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I dont think it is but would the following CPU be able to take a 64 bit
> version of CentOS ?
>
> processor: 0
> vendor_id: GenuineIntel
> cpu family: 15
> model: 2
> model name: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz
> stepping: 7
> cpu MHz: 2401.247
> cache size: 512 KB
> physical id: 3
> siblings: 2
> core id: 3
> cpu cores: 1
> fdiv_bug: no
> hlt_bug: no
> f00f_bug: no
> coma_bug: no
> fpu: yes
> fpu_exception: yes
> cpuid level: 2
> wp: yes
> flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov
> pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe cid xtpr
> bogomips: 4799.31
>
> thanks
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You should see this first:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64#History_of_Intel_64
then:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Xeon
also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Xeon#Xeon_.28DP.29_.26_Xeon_MP_.2864-bit.29

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Re: [CentOS] 64 bit aware CPU

2008-06-30 Thread Frank Cox
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:51:33 +0100
Tom Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov 
> pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe cid xtpr

If your CPU has 64-bit mode support the output will include the “lm” flag.

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Re: [CentOS] 64 bit aware CPU

2008-06-30 Thread Victor Padro
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/proccpuinfo-flag-lm-358563/

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Frank Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:51:33 +0100
> Tom Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov
> > pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe cid xtpr
>
> If your CPU has 64-bit mode support the output will include the "lm" flag.
>
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[CentOS] Recall: CentOS Digest, Vol 41, Issue 29

2008-06-30 Thread Matt Seitz (matseitz)
Matt Seitz (matseitz) would like to recall the message, "CentOS Digest, Vol 41, 
Issue 29".
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[CentOS] Re: /etc/passwd.rpmnew changes "x" to "*"

2008-06-30 Thread Matt Seitz (matseitz)
[I forgot to changed the "digest" subject the first time I sent this.  
Resending with the correct subject.]

> From: Johnny Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> In this case you DO NOT want to integrate these changes 
[...]
> This issue was caused in CentOS-4 (a /etc/passwd.rpmnew file) 
> due to an 
> update to the "setup" rpm in March ... and in this case, you can 
> remove/ignore that file.

Thank you for explaining all of this.  Is this issue documented somewhere?




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Re: [CentOS] 64 bit aware CPU

2008-06-30 Thread Frank Cox
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:26:43 -0500
Victor Padro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> If your CPU has 64-bit mode support the output will include the "lm" flag.

> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/proccpuinfo-flag-lm-358563/

Umm.. doesn't this web page merely repeat the answer that I already provided?
Or are you trying to point out some fine point here that I'm missing?

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Re: [CentOS] Pidgin problem on 5.2

2008-06-30 Thread fred smith
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 09:28:39AM -0700, Rodney Myers wrote:
> On Jun 30, 2008, at 9:16 AM, fred smith wrote:
> 
> >On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:06:28AM -0400, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams  
> >wrote:
> >>On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 09:33 -0400, fred smith wrote:
> >>>Suggestions welcome.
> >>
> >>Add a Notification Area to your panel, or look there if you already  
> >>have
> >>one.
> >
> >OK, done that. Now what?
> >
> >Nothing happens there when I try to start pidgin. What should I be  
> >seeing?
> 
> Can you attempt to start it from the shell, and let us know what  
> happens?

My original posting contained that:

$ pidgin
libnm_glib_nm_state_cb: dbus returned an error.
  (org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown) The name 
org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any service files

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Re: [CentOS] 64 bit aware CPU

2008-06-30 Thread Tom Brown




  
flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov 
pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe cid xtpr



If your CPU has 64-bit mode support the output will include the “lm” flag.

  


OK thanks all - it was a long shot



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Re: [CentOS] Lost mail

2008-06-30 Thread nate
Anne Wilson wrote:
> I did an update yesterday evening, and didn't spot that it had changed
> permissions on my .procmailrc.  Consequently no mail came in after that.
> I've been out most of today, so just got it fixed, but what will have
> happened to the mail for the missing period?  Maillog just shows that
> messages have been passed to procmail.  Procmail won't run if the perms are
> wrong, so where do the messages go?

$HOME/dead.letter ?

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Re: [CentOS] settings up cheap a NAS / SAN server, is it possible?

2008-06-30 Thread Les Mikesell

David Mackintosh wrote:


Despite a lot of fidding, configuring, testing and tuning, neither
result is very good when it comes to NFS performance.  We've gone
so far as to run everything as noatime (ie local mount, nfs export,
and nfs client mount) hoping for better performance.


Have you updated to Centos 5.2 yet?  And if so, did it improve NFS 
performance?



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Re: [CentOS] Yogunluk

2008-06-30 Thread William L. Maltby

On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 11:42 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 5:08 AM, William L. Maltby
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > Michael: I thought the job of Marketing people (or so they
> would like
> > to think) is to give the Engineering staff a set of specs, a
> budget
> 
> 
> s/specs/incomplete, inaccurate, rapidly changing, and
> irrelevant &/
> s/budget/inadequate &/
> 
> # You omitted important specifications of tha problem - are
> you in
> # marketing? ;-)  =:-O
> 
> No. I worked in R&D (mostly Aerospace) and I'm now trying to reenter

I was seriously joking. Note the wink and amazement above.

>  the job market. Almost always, I found that those of us in
> Engineering  were trying to comply with requirements that Marketing
> had given away to the customer and we couldn't complete the task
> within their time frame or budget.  Marketing will do anything
> (usually) to make the sale and then the Engineers try to get it done
> on time and within the budget. Remember the comparison between
> Engineers and Mushrooms.. 

I wish you good luck on the reentry (there's a pun there... aerospace).

Having been a mushroom... er software/systems and many related for a
long time, I know whereof you speak. That's what prompted me to add the
adjectives and the attempt at humor.

> 

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Re: [CentOS] 64 bit aware CPU

2008-06-30 Thread Victor Padro
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Tom Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
>>
>>
>>> flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov
>>> pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe cid xtpr
>>>
>>>
>>
>> If your CPU has 64-bit mode support the output will include the "lm" flag.
>>
>>
>>
>
> OK thanks all - it was a long shot
>
>
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Google point only...cheers.
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Re: [CentOS] Pidgin problem on 5.2

2008-06-30 Thread William L. Maltby

On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 14:50 -0400, fred smith wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 09:28:39AM -0700, Rodney Myers wrote:
> > On Jun 30, 2008, at 9:16 AM, fred smith wrote:
> > 
> > >On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:06:28AM -0400, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams  
> > >wrote:
> > >>On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 09:33 -0400, fred smith wrote:
> > >>>Suggestions welcome.
> > >>

> > Can you attempt to start it from the shell, and let us know what  
> > happens?
> 
> My original posting contained that:
> 
> $ pidgin
> libnm_glib_nm_state_cb: dbus returned an error.
>   (org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown) The name 
> org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any service files

I've not looked. But if you have run makewhatis, then apropos or "man -k
dbus" lists some man pages. Maybe something is buried in there. I have
no guess as to which, if any, of the below are useful.

$ man -k dbus
dbus(rpm) - D-BUS message bus
dbus-cleanup-sockets (1)  - clean up leftover sockets in a directory
dbus-daemon  (1)  - Message bus daemon
dbus-glib   (rpm) - GLib bindings for D-Bus
dbus-launch  (1)  - Utility to start a message bus from a shell
script
dbus-monitor (1)  - debug probe to print message bus messages
dbus-python (rpm) - D-Bus Python Bindings
dbus-send(1)  - Send a message to a message bus
dbus-uuidgen (1)  - Utility to generate UUIDs
dbus-x11(rpm) - X11-requiring add-ons for D-BUS

> 

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Re: [CentOS] Pidgin problem on 5.2

2008-06-30 Thread Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 12:16 -0400, fred smith wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:06:28AM -0400, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 09:33 -0400, fred smith wrote:
> > > Suggestions welcome.
> > 
> > Add a Notification Area to your panel, or look there if you already have
> > one.
> 
> OK, done that. Now what?
> 
> Nothing happens there when I try to start pidgin. What should I be seeing?

A new icon should appear in the Notification Area when you start pidgin.
Clicking on it will show the Buddy List.

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[CentOS] Problem with Sendmail + Apache

2008-06-30 Thread Daniel Bruno
In my /var/log/maillog show this message:

NOQUEUE: SYSERR(apache): can not chdir(/var/spool/clientmqueue/): Permission
denied

Permissions on dir:

drwxrwx---   2 smmsp  smmsp  36864 Jun 30 15:23 clientmqueue

If i change the permissions to 777 works normaly but is not safe and in
other server works fine with the permissions 770.

Anybody have any idea?

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Re: [CentOS] Pidgin problem on 5.2

2008-06-30 Thread fred smith
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 03:31:39PM -0400, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 12:16 -0400, fred smith wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:06:28AM -0400, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 09:33 -0400, fred smith wrote:
> > > > Suggestions welcome.
> > > 
> > > Add a Notification Area to your panel, or look there if you already have
> > > one.
> > 
> > OK, done that. Now what?
> > 
> > Nothing happens there when I try to start pidgin. What should I be seeing?
> 
> A new icon should appear in the Notification Area when you start pidgin.
> Clicking on it will show the Buddy List.

Ah. there's already one in the top panel. So I see a strange little icon
there that says it's for pidgin, so when I click that the buddy list
opens up. which is fine, thanks for pointing me to it. But I'm curios
how it got into that state where it doesn't open. I'm sure I've not done
anything to change it.

Thanks again!

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Re: [CentOS] Pidgin problem on 5.2

2008-06-30 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 16:01 -0400, fred smith wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 03:31:39PM -0400, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 12:16 -0400, fred smith wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:06:28AM -0400, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 09:33 -0400, fred smith wrote:
> > > > > Suggestions welcome.
> > > > 
> > > > Add a Notification Area to your panel, or look there if you already have
> > > > one.
> > > 
> > > OK, done that. Now what?
> > > 
> > > Nothing happens there when I try to start pidgin. What should I be seeing?
> > 
> > A new icon should appear in the Notification Area when you start pidgin.
> > Clicking on it will show the Buddy List.
> 
> Ah. there's already one in the top panel. So I see a strange little icon
> there that says it's for pidgin, so when I click that the buddy list
> opens up. which is fine, thanks for pointing me to it. But I'm curios
> how it got into that state where it doesn't open. I'm sure I've not done
> anything to change it.

I believe that is the intended behavior - that you can have pidgin
running and the only evidence is the 'status tray' when pidgin is
running in a minimal state and from which you can open various windows
back up.

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Re: [CentOS] Problem with Sendmail + Apache

2008-06-30 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Daniel Bruno wrote on Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:01:06 -0400:

> and in
> other server works fine with the permissions 770.

Probably, on that other server you don't have a web application that wants 
to access the local client queue directly.

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Re: [CentOS] Re: Rebuild of kernel 2.6.9-67.0.20.EL failure

2008-06-30 Thread Paul Heinlein

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008, John wrote:


Maby helpfull logfiles


Can someone block this guy from the list?

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Re: [CentOS] Pidgin problem on 5.2

2008-06-30 Thread fred smith
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 01:11:33PM -0700, Craig White wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 16:01 -0400, fred smith wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 03:31:39PM -0400, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 12:16 -0400, fred smith wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:06:28AM -0400, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 09:33 -0400, fred smith wrote:
> > > > > > Suggestions welcome.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Add a Notification Area to your panel, or look there if you already 
> > > > > have
> > > > > one.
> > > > 
> > > > OK, done that. Now what?
> > > > 
> > > > Nothing happens there when I try to start pidgin. What should I be 
> > > > seeing?
> > > 
> > > A new icon should appear in the Notification Area when you start pidgin.
> > > Clicking on it will show the Buddy List.
> > 
> > Ah. there's already one in the top panel. So I see a strange little icon
> > there that says it's for pidgin, so when I click that the buddy list
> > opens up. which is fine, thanks for pointing me to it. But I'm curios
> > how it got into that state where it doesn't open. I'm sure I've not done
> > anything to change it.
> 
> I believe that is the intended behavior - that you can have pidgin
> running and the only evidence is the 'status tray' when pidgin is
> running in a minimal state and from which you can open various windows
> back up.

Sounds reasonable. but that's not the way it has worked here in the past.

Thanks for the tip!

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Re: [CentOS] Minimized Firefox is not visible on panel in CentOS 5.2

2008-06-30 Thread hce
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Alex White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hce wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I opened a Firefox on Desktop, but when I clicked Minimize Window
>> button, the Firefox disappeared and there was no icon on the panel, I
>> simply could not find it any more (it did not close), this was the
>> same for the terminal as well . How can I make the Firefox icon
>> visible on panel (or workplaces) even it was minimized?
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Jim
>
> Have you tried (re)adding the window list to the panel? Perhaps it was
> deleted (accidentally or through some setting hiccup)?
>
> I've deleted the application window list before and had to re-add it. Simply
> right click the panel you want the list on and then choose Add to panel.
> You'll get a list of items to add the one you're looking for is Window List.
> You can also try Window Selector I think it is. It's slightly different but
> same principle.

Thanks Alex, that was the tricky.

Kind Regards,

Jim

> Sincerely,
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[CentOS] Acer 5920 audio chip does not work in CentOS 5.2?

2008-06-30 Thread hce
Hi,

I've installed CentOS 5.2 to a laptop Acer 5920 for dual boot, the
audio works in Window Vista, but does not work in CentOS 5.2. Does
CentOS 5.2 support following audio chip or not?

Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio
Controller (rev 03)

Thank you.

Kind Regards,

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.2 kernel [2.6.18-92.1.1.el5] crashes on dual-PIII Compaq ProLiant 3000

2008-06-30 Thread MHR
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Anne Wilson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have an Athlon 64 X2 4200+, and that hit the powernow-k8 problem too.  I
> installed your test kernel which has cured it.  Thanks
>

Interesting - I have an Athlon 64 x2 4200+ that had no problems
booting the 5.2 kernel after an update, nor downloading and installing
the 92.1.6 source, nor rebuilding it with NTFS support added, nor
booting there, either.

I'll check when I get home to see what happened, but it all looks kosher.

Of course, I'm quite a bit behind in my emails, having been on the
vacation from hell last week, so I could be responding to a fixed
issue

Ciao.

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Re: Yogunluk: Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.2 kernel [2.6.18-92.1.1.el5] crasheson dual-PIII Compaq ProLiant 3000

2008-06-30 Thread MHR
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 10:48 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yogunlugumuza gore mesajiniza en yakin zamanda cevap verilecektir.
>
> Sercan TAPSIN
> GSM:
> 05358583410
> 05542390959
> 05542390960
> ICQ : 706886
> MSN : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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What is this?

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Re: [CentOS] nfs cannot see mount points on other machine

2008-06-30 Thread MHR
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Kai Schaetzl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Toby Bluhm wrote on Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:46:43 -0400:
>
>> It should only
>> be used if you know how it works and what you are doing.
>
> Isn't that right for everything?
>

My only comment would be that you are asking for problems when you
nfs-mount the root.

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[CentOS] why yum cannot find lighttpd?

2008-06-30 Thread hce
Hi,

I tried to install lighttpd in CentOS 5.2, but yum list lighttpd
returned an error of "no matching packages to list". Should it be
installed from source tarball?

Thank you.

Kind Regards,

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Re: [CentOS] why yum cannot find lighttpd?

2008-06-30 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 11:55:21AM +1000, hce wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I tried to install lighttpd in CentOS 5.2, but yum list lighttpd
> returned an error of "no matching packages to list". Should it be
> installed from source tarball?

It's not included with the base CentOS (RHEL) distribution.  You'll
want to grab it from a 3rd party rebpository like EPEL:

  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL

(It is included in EPEL).  Other repositories may have it as well.

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Re: [CentOS] why yum cannot find lighttpd?

2008-06-30 Thread Jim Perrin
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:55 PM, hce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I tried to install lighttpd in CentOS 5.2, but yum list lighttpd
> returned an error of "no matching packages to list". Should it be
> installed from source tarball?

lighttpd is not part of the default operating system, which is why yum
can't find it.

Rather than installing from source (bad idea on a system using package
management), you should use one of the 3rd party repositories. These
repositories augment the base package set with a number of other
options. See http://wiki.centos.org/Repositories


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Re: [CentOS] why yum cannot find lighttpd?

2008-06-30 Thread Stephen Harris
On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 11:55:21AM +1000, hce wrote:
> I tried to install lighttpd in CentOS 5.2, but yum list lighttpd
> returned an error of "no matching packages to list". Should it be

You need to configure rpmforge or another repo for this; it's not part
of the core OS.

Name   : lighttpd
Arch   : i386
Version: 1.4.19
Release: 1.el5.rf
Size   : 1.1 M
Repo   : rpmforge
Summary: Lightning fast webserver with light system requirements
Description:
Secure, fast, compliant and very flexible web-server which has been optimized
for high-performance environments. It has a very low memory footprint compared
to other webservers and takes care of cpu-load. Its advanced feature-set
(FastCGI, CGI, Auth, Output-Compression, URL-Rewriting and many more) make
it the perfect webserver-software for every server that is suffering load
problems.

Available rpmbuild rebuild options :
--with : gamin webdavprops webdavlocks memcache
--without : ldap gdbm lua (cml) ssl



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Re: [CentOS] why yum cannot find lighttpd?

2008-06-30 Thread Barry Brimer

I tried to install lighttpd in CentOS 5.2, but yum list lighttpd
returned an error of "no matching packages to list". Should it be
installed from source tarball?


lighttpd is not in the CentOS repositories.  It is however a part of the 
rpmforge repositories.  Add the rpmforge repository and then you will find 
it.


Barry

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Re: [CentOS] settings up cheap a NAS / SAN server, is it possible?

2008-06-30 Thread David Mackintosh
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 02:08:33PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
> Have you updated to Centos 5.2 yet?  And if so, did it improve NFS 
> performance?

Sorry, these computers are in production now so I can't fiddle with them.

Besides, this would be a "long" upgrade -- they are both CentOS 4.x systems.

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[CentOS] [CentOS4.6]Where can I get these packages (xorg-server xproto fontsproto)?

2008-06-30 Thread huo jinzhe
When I install xf86-video-intel-2.3.2, Package requirements were not met.
And " yum list | grep xorg-server " can not find such package.
Where can I get these packages (xorg-server xproto fontsproto)?
Thanks in advance.

The log information is below:
./configure
..
checking pkg-config is at least version 0.9.0... yes
checking for XORG... Package xorg-server was not found in the
pkg-config search path.
Perhaps you should add the directory containing `xorg-server.pc'
to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
No package 'xorg-server' found
configure: error: Package requirements (xorg-server xproto fontsproto
) were not met:

Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
installed software in a non-standard prefix.

Alternatively, you may set the environment variables XORG_CFLAGS
and XORG_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config.
See the pkg-config man page for more details.
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Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk from Redhat

2008-06-30 Thread Amos Shapira
2008/6/30 Bazy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hello,
>
> Is anyone using Spacewalk (http://www.redhat.com/spacewalk/) on CentOS 5 or 
> 4? What kind of hardware are you useing it on?

Do I read it right that it requires Oracle 9??
(http://tinyurl.com/6rff8l) or am I missing something?

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Re: [CentOS] settings up cheap a NAS / SAN server, is it possible?

2008-06-30 Thread Rudi Ahlers

David Mackintosh wrote:

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 02:08:33PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
  
Have you updated to Centos 5.2 yet?  And if so, did it improve NFS 
performance?



Sorry, these computers are in production now so I can't fiddle with them.

Besides, this would be a "long" upgrade -- they are both CentOS 4.x systems.

  



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This raises an interesting question. What do you do in this kind of 
scenario? How do you upgrade a NAS / SAN with say 5 / 10 TB worth of data?


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Re: [CentOS] Acer 5920 audio chip does not work in CentOS 5.2?

2008-06-30 Thread Alex White

hce wrote:

Hi,

I've installed CentOS 5.2 to a laptop Acer 5920 for dual boot, the
audio works in Window Vista, but does not work in CentOS 5.2. Does
CentOS 5.2 support following audio chip or not?

Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio
Controller (rev 03)

Thank you.

Kind Regards,

Jim


When you say it doesn't work, are you getting an error message 
saying that there's no sound device?


Does lspci list your soundcard? If you have a super long list and 
can't locate it easily, you can try (but I can't promise this will 
work for you, it does for me however) lspci | grep audio


If I recall you're using gnome. You should (but may not) have a 
volume icon on your panel. Right click that icon and ensure that the 
mute box is not checked. If it's not checked, select "Open Volume 
Control" and make sure your volume is turned up. If you still do not 
have sound try right clicking the volume speaker icon again and 
selecting "Preferences". Make sure that the correct device is selected.


I googled around and found various issues with the model of Acer you 
have listed, but sound didn't seem to be a problem save for one user 
using Ubuntu (I didn't spend that much time looking, sorry) who only 
got sound out of one speaker. A Fedora review of sorts listed the 
chipset as just working, but I believe that was for Fedora 8.


HTH

Alex White

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Re: [CentOS] settings up cheap a NAS / SAN server, is it possible?

2008-06-30 Thread nate
Rudi Ahlers wrote:

> This raises an interesting question. What do you do in this kind of
> scenario? How do you upgrade a NAS / SAN with say 5 / 10 TB worth of data?

Lots of the more modern enterprise arrays support online upgrades.
Some of them even support re-distributing data across the new spindles
to maximize performance/limit hot spots.

I personally wouldn't want to purchase any storage array that will
have important data on it that doesn't have these abilities.

My favorite storage company - 3par has some of the more advanced online
optimizations, sample -

http://www.3par.com/documents/3PAR-do-ds-08.0.pdf

Grow data online, convert between RAID levels online, migrate data
between spindle types(FC<->SATA) online etc. Create a volume, and
you never have to worry about answering the question 'is it really
optimal?' because you can change it at any time without application
impact or downtime.

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Re: [CentOS] settings up cheap a NAS / SAN server, is it possible?

2008-06-30 Thread Rudi Ahlers

nate wrote:

Rudi Ahlers wrote:

  

This raises an interesting question. What do you do in this kind of
scenario? How do you upgrade a NAS / SAN with say 5 / 10 TB worth of data?



Lots of the more modern enterprise arrays support online upgrades.
Some of them even support re-distributing data across the new spindles
to maximize performance/limit hot spots.

I personally wouldn't want to purchase any storage array that will
have important data on it that doesn't have these abilities.

My favorite storage company - 3par has some of the more advanced online
optimizations, sample -

http://www.3par.com/documents/3PAR-do-ds-08.0.pdf

Grow data online, convert between RAID levels online, migrate data
between spindle types(FC<->SATA) online etc. Create a volume, and
you never have to worry about answering the question 'is it really
optimal?' because you can change it at any time without application
impact or downtime.

nate

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Nate, what EXACTLY does that have todo with the topic? We're talking 
about a self-build NAS / SAN running on Linux (and UNIX), NOT a 
commercial product




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Re: [CentOS] settings up cheap a NAS / SAN server, is it possible?

2008-06-30 Thread nate
Rudi Ahlers wrote:
> nate wrote:
>> Rudi Ahlers wrote:
>>
>>
>>> This raises an interesting question. What do you do in this kind of
>>> scenario? How do you upgrade a NAS / SAN with say 5 / 10 TB worth of
>>> data?

> Nate, what EXACTLY does that have todo with the topic? We're talking
> about a self-build NAS / SAN running on Linux (and UNIX), NOT a
> commercial product

Everything I believe. Everything is a commercial product unless your
building the circuit boards from scratch. Your specific question was
how do you upgrade a NAS / SAN with say 5 / 10TB worth of data? My
answer is you build one that can be upgraded online.

And the array I mentioned previously runs on Debian. The largest
EMC arrays run on Linux as well.

While EMC won't let you self-build their high end systems, there are
other companies that sell SAN/NAS gear that runs on Linux that will
let you "self build".

nate


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Re: [CentOS] settings up cheap a NAS / SAN server, is it possible?

2008-06-30 Thread Rudi Ahlers

nate wrote:

Rudi Ahlers wrote:
  

nate wrote:


Rudi Ahlers wrote:


  

This raises an interesting question. What do you do in this kind of
scenario? How do you upgrade a NAS / SAN with say 5 / 10 TB worth of
data?



  

Nate, what EXACTLY does that have todo with the topic? We're talking
about a self-build NAS / SAN running on Linux (and UNIX), NOT a
commercial product



Everything I believe. Everything is a commercial product unless your
building the circuit boards from scratch. Your specific question was
how do you upgrade a NAS / SAN with say 5 / 10TB worth of data? My
answer is you build one that can be upgraded online.

And the array I mentioned previously runs on Debian. The largest
EMC arrays run on Linux as well.

While EMC won't let you self-build their high end systems, there are
other companies that sell SAN/NAS gear that runs on Linux that will
let you "self build".

nate


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No, it's not quite the same thing. A commercial storage device is built 
in a such a way that the OS (normally on a separate HDD / PROM / flash 
disk / etc) can be upgraded with the suppliers pre-built patches.


We're talking about doing this totally from scratch. i.e, how to build 
one from PC components you have / purchased from a supplier yourself. 
This also involves setting up the software (in this case CentOS, but 
FreeBSD & Solaris was recommended as well). If I wanted a commercial 
product, then I would have contacted the vendors and asked them this 
question. And if you've been following the thread, you'll see that we 
discussed Intel & AMD, SATA, SAS & SCSI, software & hardware RAID, etc, 
not which commercial device works better and which don't.


It's nice to know what commercial vendors offer a way to upgrade the OS, 
but I'm not interested in a commercial pre-built product, I don't have 
that kind of capital


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Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk from Redhat

2008-06-30 Thread Tom Lanyon

On 01/07/2008, at 2:19 PM, Amos Shapira wrote:


2008/6/30 Bazy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Hello,

Is anyone using Spacewalk (http://www.redhat.com/spacewalk/) on  
CentOS 5 or 4? What kind of hardware are you useing it on?


Do I read it right that it requires Oracle 9??
(http://tinyurl.com/6rff8l) or am I missing something?


9 or 10, I believe.
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Re: [CentOS] settings up cheap a NAS / SAN server, is it possible?

2008-06-30 Thread Les Mikesell

Rudi Ahlers wrote:

David Mackintosh wrote:

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 02:08:33PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
 
Have you updated to Centos 5.2 yet?  And if so, did it improve NFS 
performance?



Sorry, these computers are in production now so I can't fiddle with them.

Besides, this would be a "long" upgrade -- they are both CentOS 4.x 
systems.


___
  
This raises an interesting question. What do you do in this kind of 
scenario? How do you upgrade a NAS / SAN with say 5 / 10 TB worth of data?


I haven't done anything that big, but I normally put the OS on a small 
mirrored pair of swappable drives so an upgrade consists of swapping 
those drives with a new set pre-installed in a spare chassis.  That way 
you are only down for the time it takes to reboot and if anything goes 
wrong you can put the old set back.  In any case you wouldn't be doing 
anything to the data partitions in an upgrade.


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Re: [CentOS] settings up cheap a NAS / SAN server, is it possible?

2008-06-30 Thread Rudi Ahlers

Les Mikesell wrote:

Rudi Ahlers wrote:

David Mackintosh wrote:

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 02:08:33PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
 
Have you updated to Centos 5.2 yet?  And if so, did it improve NFS 
performance?



Sorry, these computers are in production now so I can't fiddle with 
them.


Besides, this would be a "long" upgrade -- they are both CentOS 4.x 
systems.


___
  
This raises an interesting question. What do you do in this kind of 
scenario? How do you upgrade a NAS / SAN with say 5 / 10 TB worth of 
data?


I haven't done anything that big, but I normally put the OS on a small 
mirrored pair of swappable drives so an upgrade consists of swapping 
those drives with a new set pre-installed in a spare chassis.  That 
way you are only down for the time it takes to reboot and if anything 
goes wrong you can put the old set back.  In any case you wouldn't be 
doing anything to the data partitions in an upgrade.



ok, so in your setup the OS is totally separate from the data itself?

So, I guess I need to rethink my setup. Since I have a 2U chassis, which 
can only take 6 drives, I guess I should maybe look into running the OS 
from a USB memory stick or something.


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Re: [CentOS] settings up cheap a NAS / SAN server, is it possible?

2008-06-30 Thread John R Pierce

Rudi Ahlers wrote:

ok, so in your setup the OS is totally separate from the data itself?


indeed, almost all my servers are setup this way, too.   A pair of 
smaller disks, 36GB or 80GB are mirrored for the OS and software, then 
populate the rest with large disks in raid10  or raid5 for whatever task 
this server is intended for (database or bulk storage, or whatever).

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[CentOS] Re: Re: Rebuild of kernel 2.6.9-67.0.20.EL failure

2008-06-30 Thread John
Excuse me,

What did I do offend you or others?


"Paul Heinlein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef 
in bericht news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008, John wrote:
>
>> Maby helpfull logfiles
>
> Can someone block this guy from the list?
>
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Re: [CentOS] Re: Re: Rebuild of kernel 2.6.9-67.0.20.EL failure

2008-06-30 Thread John R Pierce

John wrote:

What did I do offend you or others?
  


sending 400K bytes of unsolicited attachments to 1000s of mailboxes is 
not exactly polite.


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