Re: [CentOS] shell script strangeness...
Craig White wrote: That works fine one CentOS 5 (double quotes and backtics) but not on CentOS 4.6 Thanks...I guess it's good enough for now. Craig ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos I can only imagine it is "working" in 4.6 because the result of "grep entry_chooser.js /var/log/httpd/access_log" is either empty or 1 "word". The test syntax [ -z xxx ] would report the "too many arguments" error whenever the grep returned more than one word. You can test this at your command line by typing in:- [ -z one ] and [ -z one two three four five ] The first will return "false" but you'll just see another bash prompt, the second will report the "too many arguments" error. This is certainly the case for me using RHEL4.6, so I would imagine CentOS4.6 should be the same. You can also see it explained by these commands and results:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ [ -z ] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ echo $? 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ [ -z one ] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ echo $? 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$[ -z one two three four ] -bash: [: too many arguments [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ echo $? 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ I hope this helps you understand why it is "working" on one machine but not another. Ian PS: I always prefer $(cmd) to backtics for readability. e.g. if [ -z "$(grep entry_chooser.js /var/log/httpd/access_log)" ] PPS: grep -q works for me on RHEL4.6 and CentOS5.1 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] [OT]: Passing password for a command on the fly
El 16/05/2008, a las 10:38, Mário Gamito escribió:
I have this command to create an FTP account:
# pure-pw useradd mario -u 502 -g 502 -n 1000 -N 200 -d /home/pages/
mario
This command asks for the password twice.
I need to pass the password (preferably without expect) so I can
create the account without prompting.
If i run:
# echo secret | pure-pw useradd mario -u 502 -g 502 -n 1000 -N 200 -d
/home/pages/gamito
It reads the first insertion, but asks for the second.
Dear Mario,
I have the same problem some days ago, try with this:
( echo ${PASSWORD} ; echo ${PASSWORD} ) | pure-pw useradd ${USUARIO} -
u ftpuser -g ftpgroup -d /backup/${USUARIO} -N ${QUOTA} -m > /dev/
null 2>&1
From the FAQ at:
http://pureftpd.sourceforge.net/FAQ
"* Passwords and pure-pw scripting."
-> I would like to create virtual users with a shell-script. if i us
pure-pw useradd . it always asks for the new password. is there any
command-line option which tells pure-pw the password (like useradd
ftp-user
ftp-password -m) ? (at1ce) .
Giving cleartext (and badly one-way hashed) passwords through command-
line
switches is a bad idea. Because users could issue a simple 'ps'
command and
discover these passwords.
One way to enter a password (not from the keyboard) is to put the
password
twice in a temporary file, then redirect that file to stdin. Example:
pure-pw useradd john -d /tmp/john -u ftpuser -m < ~/tmp/passfile
And in ~/tmp/passfile, have something like:
john's password
john's password
If you really need to avoid a temporary file and if nobody but you
can log
on the machine, you can always do this:
(echo blahblah; echo blahblah) | pure-pw useradd john -d /tmp/john -u
ftpuser
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[CentOS] [OT]: Passing password for a command on the fly
Hi, First things first, sorry for the off-topic, but I've already burned my eyes Googling and couldn't find the answer to what I need and I remembered asking here, because I'm a long time CentOS and its mailing list user. Again, my apologies. I have this command to create an FTP account: # pure-pw useradd mario -u 502 -g 502 -n 1000 -N 200 -d /home/pages/mario This command asks for the password twice. I need to pass the password (preferably without expect) so I can create the account without prompting. If i run: # echo secret | pure-pw useradd mario -u 502 -g 502 -n 1000 -N 200 -d /home/pages/gamito It reads the first insertion, but asks for the second. I knew how to do this a long time ago, but I've forgotten and couldn't find anything useful on Google. Any help would be appreciated. Warm Regards, Mário Gamito ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] [OT]: Passing password for a command on the fly
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 09:38:17AM +0100, Mário Gamito wrote: > Hi, > > First things first, sorry for the off-topic, but I've already burned > my eyes Googling and couldn't find the answer to what I need and I > remembered asking here, because I'm a long time CentOS and its mailing > list user. > Again, my apologies. > > I have this command to create an FTP account: > > # pure-pw useradd mario -u 502 -g 502 -n 1000 -N 200 -d /home/pages/mario > > This command asks for the password twice. > > I need to pass the password (preferably without expect) so I can > create the account without prompting. > > If i run: > > # echo secret | pure-pw useradd mario -u 502 -g 502 -n 1000 -N 200 -d > /home/pages/gamito > > It reads the first insertion, but asks for the second. (echo secret; echo secret) | pure-pw ... Or: echo -e 'secret\nsecret' | pure-pw Or: pure-pw < pgpM1Z15skrm4.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 10:55 PM, Jason Pyeron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I just wish I could configure my outlook ... > No excuse now :) http://quotefix.flupp.de/ Regards, Martyn -- Martyn Drake http://www.drake.org.uk http://www.mindthegapps.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Best Motherboard
Sam Drinkard wrote: Simon Jolle sjolle wrote: On 05/15/2008 04:24 PM, Sam Drinkard wrote: About 2 years ago, I build a server [...] What are the advantages of building your own server comparing with products from HP, Dell and IBM? Is it cheaper? I never heard of DIY server hardware market. cheers Simon Basically, I built it because I wanted certain components in/on the system and could not get it configured that way from any vendor. I've built every PC I've ever owned. I select components based on the type of use they would get, and the applications they are going to run. As for price, sometimes cheaper, sometimes more expensive depending on what you put in it, but in the end, when it all comes together, you have something to be proud of because you built it yourself. Sam That's the way I prefer todo it as well :) This way, whether it's a server or desktop, I know it will be easy & cheaper to upgrade than using proprietary / pre-build systems like Dell for instance. -- Kind Regards Rudi Ahlers CEO, SoftDux Web: http://www.SoftDux.com Check out my technical blog, http://blog.softdux.com for Linux or other technical stuff, or visit http://www.WebHostingTalk.co.za for Web Hosting stuff ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting
Akemi Yagi wrote: On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Carol Anne Ogdin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jumping in late here: I sincerely wish that this list was maintained on any of the quality "bulletin board" or "Forum" tools. It would reduce my eMail load, allow me to zoom in on just the issues of interest to me at the moment, and I can eMail those posts to myself that are relevant to my own needs for further editing and documentation. I find the entire USENET and eMail list thing utterly antediluvian, and wicked hard to use. Often, I can only barely remember that *maybe* something relevant was discussed months ago, but is now relevant to my current issue today. A "forum" is more practical as a tool for building a collective knowledge of the CentOS community. This eMail list just doesn't cut it for a "knowledge base" built up of our collective experience. Of course, for those of you who still prefer this medium, a "forum" can eMail you posts, just like you see them today. But people who would like to search for a solution from a year or so ago could search the central resource. --Carol Anne I think this post gives us a good message. That is that, just like there are many people who hate the forums, there are many users who prefer the forums over the mailing lists. From what I have been observing by participating in the BOTH worlds for the last year or so, the number of people who are being helped in the forums outgrows that of the mailing lists. And if you do google searches, you tend to find forum posts more than mailing posts. BUT, my intention is not to make a comparison -- they just have different audience. The point I want to make is that if you feel one method is not as well-served as the other, efforts should be made to make the other method equally good. CentOS provides the two major venues, and we should be able to choose whichever the one we feel more comfortable without sacrificing the quality of help we get. The "C" in CentOS is the driving force of the whole project. We, community members, as a whole always need to think how best we can help others. My 2 cents worth, I just want to point out that there are forums for CentOS, we have several moderators and community members who answer questions there every day and we can akways use more users there answering questions. You can also search and read this list in several places that are available in a threaded format ... like: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.linux.centos.general You can also search the archives using google and the site feature: in a google search box, do: site:http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/ "Top Posting" Regardless, forums, mailing lists and a wiki are all available for CentOS users ... and each medium is driven by "CentOS Users" who volunteer to participate for "CentOS Users" who are looking for help. We offer all 3 because different users prefer different methods. That is what open source is all about ... pick the method you like and use it :D Thanks, Johnny Hughes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] [OT]: Passing password for a command on the fly
Dear Luciano (aka strange), Thank you very nice :) Kind Regards, Mário Gamito On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Luciano Rocha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 09:38:17AM +0100, Mário Gamito wrote: >> Hi, >> >> First things first, sorry for the off-topic, but I've already burned >> my eyes Googling and couldn't find the answer to what I need and I >> remembered asking here, because I'm a long time CentOS and its mailing >> list user. >> Again, my apologies. >> >> I have this command to create an FTP account: >> >> # pure-pw useradd mario -u 502 -g 502 -n 1000 -N 200 -d /home/pages/mario >> >> This command asks for the password twice. >> >> I need to pass the password (preferably without expect) so I can >> create the account without prompting. >> >> If i run: >> >> # echo secret | pure-pw useradd mario -u 502 -g 502 -n 1000 -N 200 -d >> /home/pages/gamito >> >> It reads the first insertion, but asks for the second. > (echo secret; echo secret) | pure-pw ... > > Or: echo -e 'secret\nsecret' | pure-pw > > Or: pure-pw < secret > secret > EOF > > -- > lfr > 0/0 > > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > > ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] has something happened to grep
Jerry Geis wrote: Hi all, when I do a "grep JERRY *.h" nothing is returned which is what I expect. This is in my source directory... when I do a "grep JERRY *" every file is returned an a line printed even though there is no JERRY on the line. Then if I do a "grep JERRY *.c" just the 4 lines that have JERRY are returned. Do you have a file name that starts with a "-" in your directory? Mogens -- Mogens Kjaer, Carlsberg A/S, Computer Department Gamle Carlsberg Vej 10, DK-2500 Valby, Denmark Phone: +45 33 27 53 25, Fax: +45 33 27 47 08 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.crc.dk ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] has something happened to grep
Hi all, when I do a "grep JERRY *.h" nothing is returned which is what I expect. This is in my source directory... when I do a "grep JERRY *" every file is returned an a line printed even though there is no JERRY on the line. Then if I do a "grep JERRY *.c" just the 4 lines that have JERRY are returned. This is what is prints for "grep JERRY *" src# grep JERRY * | more grep: JERRY: No such file or directory access_manager_help.htm: so why is is skipping JERRY as the search item? The name JERRY is not the problem I can do this with any name and the same happens when searching all file "*". Thanks, Jerry ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: tar spanning
On Thursday 15 May 2008 11:22:51 pm Scott Silva wrote: > on 5-14-2008 6:11 PM Jim Perrin spake the following: > > On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Fajar Priyanto wrote: > >> Googling my own name 'Fajar Priyanto Linux' returns 12,300 hits from > >> Google. Maybe someday we can compile a top-ten list for this? :) > > > > Oh hell no. If we go down that road we're doing it RIGHT, with a > > winner-take-all brawl via google-fight(http://www.googlefight.com/)! > > > > Two names enter, one name leaves! > > Ha! I beat you! > > http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Scott+Silva&word2=Jim >+Perrin http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Anne+Wilson&word2=Jim+Perrin :-) Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Best Motherboard
John Plemons wrote: I would look at Tyan, Soyo, and Intel for middle of the road performance, but more over for dependability... I have also had very good luck with MSI, Asus... Same here, Tyan for the really important systems (complete with ECC) inside a SuperMicro rack case. Asus for the desktops / less important servers. (I really like the Asus M2N designs, because they use heatpipes to cool the chipset. Which means one less fan, a.k.a. moving part, to worry about in our boxes.) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting
Akemi Yagi wrote: I think this post gives us a good message. That is that, just like there are many people who hate the forums, there are many users who prefer the forums over the mailing lists. That does not mean you go slaging off one communication medium in another. If IRC is the only thing that works for you, that does not mean its OK to go farking off in the lists and forums. On the other hand, if you are here in the lists, its reasonable to expect people to make an effort to make communication easier. Just as any medium of communication would have guidelines and ways to implement them. - KB ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Best Motherboard
Simon Jolle sjolle wrote: On 05/15/2008 04:24 PM, Sam Drinkard wrote: About 2 years ago, I build a server [...] What are the advantages of building your own server comparing with products from HP, Dell and IBM? Is it cheaper? I never heard of DIY server hardware market. Getting exactly what you want. Our last few test boxes have been Tyan server (Opteron F) motherboards mounted in SuperMicro server chassis (3U or 4U). We usually order two spare PSU modules, and have other spare parts laying around. So if the box dies, we can generally get it back up and running using parts we have on-hand. However, once we switch to production systems, we'll probably go find a barebones rack server company who sells their servers with RedHat as an install option. (Which usually ensures that we get Linux compatible hardware.) Because for production stuff, I prefer to have a 3 year warranty. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 39, Issue 7
Send CentOS-announce mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CentOS-announce digest..." Today's Topics: 1. CESA-2008:0270 Important CentOS 4 x86_64 libvorbis Update (Johnny Hughes) 2. CESA-2008:0270 Important CentOS 4 i386 libvorbis Update (Johnny Hughes) 3. Impact of the Debian OpenSSL vulnerability (Daniel de Kok) 4. CESA-2008:0194 Important CentOS 5 x86_64 xen Update (Karanbir Singh) 5. CESA-2008:0194 Important CentOS 5 i386 xen Update (Karanbir Singh) 6. CESA-2008:0271-01: Important CentOS 2 i386libvorbis security update (John Newbigin) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 09:10:59 -0500 From: Johnny Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2008:0270 Important CentOS 4 x86_64 libvorbis Update To: CentOS-Announce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2008:0270 Important Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2008-0270.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: x86_64: libvorbis-1.1.0-3.el4_6.1.i386.rpm libvorbis-1.1.0-3.el4_6.1.x86_64.rpm libvorbis-devel-1.1.0-3.el4_6.1.x86_64.rpm src: libvorbis-1.1.0-3.el4_6.1.src.rpm -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/attachments/20080515/0eaba780/signature-0001.bin -- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 09:11:13 -0500 From: Johnny Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2008:0270 Important CentOS 4 i386 libvorbis Update To: CentOS-Announce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2008:0270 Important Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2008-0270.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: i386: libvorbis-1.1.0-3.el4_6.1.i386.rpm libvorbis-devel-1.1.0-3.el4_6.1.i386.rpm src: libvorbis-1.1.0-3.el4_6.1.src.rpm -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/attachments/20080515/b7abcdb5/signature-0001.bin -- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 20:08:39 +0200 From: "Daniel de Kok" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [CentOS-announce] Impact of the Debian OpenSSL vulnerability To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 A severe vulnerability was found in the random number generator (RNG) of the Debian OpenSSL package, starting with version 0.9.8c-1 (and similar packages in derived distributions such as Ubuntu). While this bug is not present in the OpenSSL packages provided by CentOS, it may still affect CentOS users. The bug barred the OpenSSL random number generator from gaining enough entropy required for generating unpredicatable keys. In fact it appearss that the only source for entropy was the process ID of the process generating a key, which is chosen from a very small range and is predictable. As such, all keys generated using the Debian OpenSSL library should be considered compromized. Programs that use OpenSSL include OpenSSH and OpenVPN. Note that GnuPG and GNU TLS do not use OpenSSL, so they are not affected. This vulnerability can affect CentOS machines through the use of keys that were generated with the OpenSSL package from Debian. For instance, if a user uses OpenSSH public key authentication to log on to a CentOS server, and this user generated the key pair with a vulnerable OpenSSL library, the server is at heavy risk because the key can be reproduced easily. Additionally, all (good) DSA keys that were ever used on a vulnerable Debian machine for signing or authentication should also be considered compromized due to a known attack on DSA keys. As a result of this bug, everyone should audit *every* key or cerficicate that was generated with OpenSSL, to trace its origin and make sure that it was not generated with a vulnerable Debian OpenSSL package. Or in the case of DSA keys care should be taken that they were not generated or used on a system with a vulner
Re: [CentOS] ntpd date sync before service startup
I am sorry, but when i will config ntp trought system-config-date and check sync time before service startup, it is working, but i do not see any -x switch in /etc/sysconfig/ntp . :( Thanks On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 12:55 AM, John R Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Hláčik wrote: > >> Hello, >> in system-config-date i have checkbox synchronize date before service >> startup. >> Which config switch,file does it affect? I want to turn it on on my CentOS >> machine without xauth , just editing config files , i was hoping it could be >> in /etc/sysconfig/ntpd but no. >> > > > most likely, the system-config util is setting that option in > /etc/sysconfig/ntpd which by default reads... > > # Drop root to id 'ntp:ntp' by default. > OPTIONS="-u ntp:ntp -p /var/run/ntpd.pid" > > # Set to 'yes' to sync hw clock after successful ntpdate > SYNC_HWCLOCK=no > > # Additional options for ntpdate > NTPDATE_OPTIONS="" > > if -x is /not/ set in OPTIONS, it calls /usr/sbin/ntpdate with various > parameters, this hard sets the system time to the NTP server time. if -x > /is/ set, it does the time step thing > > if SYNC_HWCLOCK=yes, then it invokes sync_hwclock in the /etc/init.d/ntpd > script, which in turn runs /sbin/hwclock with various options as specified. > > > > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] OOM condition with file-4.17-9.0.1.el5
Hello all, We just encountered several serious Out of Memory Problems caused by the file 4.17-9.0.1.EL5 utility on our mail Gateway. CentOS 5.1 kept it self alive by killing it parent process Amavisd-new. Manually restarting Amavisd-new and flushing the mail queue caused same problem. Disabling file for the moment, caused Amavisd-new to fail, and also defer all mail. My quick and dirty solution was the download the Fedora Core 9's file.4.23-5.src.rpm. and rebuild it on CentOS 5 After upgrading file, restarting Amavisd-new and flushing the Postfix queue, all mail was delivered without problems. Because our mail system went down, it didn't have the time to trace the message causing the problem. But I want to share here that the Redhat / CentOS EL5 file utility has problems and provide a quick workaround for the problem. Regards, John The Netherlands ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Anyone configured two CentOS5 with shared storage for Oracle 10 R2 HA/failover?
I've gotten the task to setup a two server/node system for Oracle 10R2 with HA/failover. I've got a SAN connected to both servers. Any hints and tips? I've found the Cluster Suite Overview/Administration docs at http://www.centos.org/docs/5/. /Christopher ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] OT: Building NFS server with LVM and snapshots enabled
Hi all,
I need to build a NFS CentOS 5.1 based server with LVM and snaphosts for
disaster recovering to serve storage to three ESX servers for a development
dept. I have 500 GB for storage. Data that I need to store on this server is 150
GB and can grow to 210 GB to the end of year ...
My questions are:
- Is it possible to do some type of scripting to do data snapshots every day
and then copy to a remote server?? Some example, please??
- How can I restore snapshot data on the production server if I need to
recover it??
Openfiler or FreeNAS isn't an option to do this task (customer requeriment).
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Re: [CentOS] Anyone configured two CentOS5 with shared storage for Oracle 10 R2 HA/failover?
Christopher Thorjussen wrote:
I've gotten the task to setup a two server/node system for Oracle 10R2
with HA/failover. I've got a SAN connected to both servers. Any hints
and tips? I've found the Cluster Suite Overview/Administration docs at
http://www.centos.org/docs/5/.
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Something like this:
http://www.idevelopment.info/data/Oracle/DBA_tips/Oracle11gRAC/CLUSTER_10.shtml ???
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[CentOS] clustered mail server?
Hi all I'm looking for a working HOWTO / Tutorial / sample setup of setting up a clustered email server. I know I can setup a CentOS cluster with Heartbeat & drbd, but I'm not 100% convinced it will work for the email as well. Ideally, I'd like to use an open source groupware server, like say open exchange, php groupware, Scalix (free / community version), etc. So, if anyone can please point me in the right direction? I've already setup a heartbeat cluster, and use rsync to sync files for Samba, Apache & NFS, and also setup a Master-Master MySQL replication, but don't yet know how to setup the email server, -- Kind Regards Rudi Ahlers CEO, SoftDux Web: http://www.SoftDux.com Check out my technical blog, http://blog.softdux.com for Linux or other technical stuff, or visit http://www.WebHostingTalk.co.za for Web Hosting stuff ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Re: has something happened to grep
Jerry Geis wrote: >/ Hi all, />/ />/ when I do a "grep JERRY *.h" nothing is returned which is what I expect. />/ This is in my source directory... />/ when I do a "grep JERRY *" every file is returned an a line printed even />/ though there is no JERRY on the line. />/ Then if I do a "grep JERRY *.c" just the 4 lines that have JERRY are />/ returned. / Do you have a file name that starts with a "-" in your directory? Mogens Yes I do actually. There is a -f filename of which I dont need. I tried rm *f and it is not removing it. No what? Jerry ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] RHEL5 Linux with default Cluster is not Installed
Dear All, I have installed RHEL5 Linux Installation and I have selected all packages but the cluster packages are not displayed at package selection Menu After Installation Completed Successfully i have verified cluster is installed default and I findout the cluster packages are not installed default linux installation Can any one help me how to install the cluster packages with default linux installation Otherwise send me Cluster Installation Procedure after linux installation is over Regards -S.Balaji ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: has something happened to grep
I tried rm *f and it is not removing it. No what? rm -- -f ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] clustered mail server?
Rudi Ahlers wrote: I'm looking for a working HOWTO / Tutorial / sample setup of setting up a clustered email server. I know I can setup a CentOS cluster with Heartbeat & drbd, but I'm not 100% convinced it will work for the email as well. What problem are you trying to solve ? Cyrus-imapd has native replication for example. - KB ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OOM condition with file-4.17-9.0.1.el5
On Fri, 2008-05-16 at 14:30 +0200, John wrote: > Hello all, > > We just encountered several serious Out of Memory Problems caused by the > file 4.17-9.0.1.EL5 utility on our mail Gateway. CentOS 5.1 kept it self > alive by killing it parent process Amavisd-new. Manually restarting > Amavisd-new and flushing the mail queue caused same problem. Disabling file > for the moment, caused Amavisd-new to fail, and also defer all mail. > > My quick and dirty solution was the download the Fedora Core 9's > file.4.23-5.src.rpm. and rebuild it on CentOS 5 After upgrading file, > restarting Amavisd-new and flushing the Postfix queue, all mail was > delivered without problems. > > Because our mail system went down, it didn't have the time to trace the > message causing the problem. > > But I want to share here that the Redhat / CentOS EL5 file utility has > problems and provide a quick workaround for the problem. Can't find a bug report on this for either CentOS-5 or upstream. Phil ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: has something happened to grep
Jerry Geis wrote: > I tried rm *f and it is not removing it. No what? Read the rm manual page. Ralph pgpa7eCzdFHT8.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Re: has something happened to grep
>/ I tried rm *f and it is not removing it. No what? /rm -- -f THanks that removed the file and grep now has the correct behavior. Somehow the VIM start screen is in the -f file... Not sure how that happened but glad its gone. Have a great day all! Jerry ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL5 Linux with default Cluster is not Installed
Balaji wrote: I have installed RHEL5 Linux Installation and I have selected all packages but the cluster packages are not displayed at package selection You have the wrong list / support mechanism. Call Redhat support in order go get feedback on your issue. - KB ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: tar spanning
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Anne+Wilson&word2=Jim+Perrin :-) Anne But...if it were not for the sister-rock band Heart, would that be the case? Namesake and all. ;-) -R ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting
Beyond casutic...who's slaging here karanbir? He expressed his opinion and last time i checked there wasn't a rule against that. While your reply was inflamatory you also have the right to fire back..however saying it's not ok to do something that wasn't against any of the rules of this forum is just being caustic for being caustic's sake. Karanbir Singh wrote: Akemi Yagi wrote: I think this post gives us a good message. That is that, just like there are many people who hate the forums, there are many users who prefer the forums over the mailing lists. That does not mean you go slaging off one communication medium in another. If IRC is the only thing that works for you, that does not mean its OK to go farking off in the lists and forums. On the other hand, if you are here in the lists, its reasonable to expect people to make an effort to make communication easier. Just as any medium of communication would have guidelines and ways to implement them. - KB ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- Registered Microsoft Partner My "Foundation" verse: Isa 54:17 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] shell script strangeness...
On Fri, 2008-05-16 at 17:03 +0930, Ian Blackwell wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > That works fine one CentOS 5 (double quotes and backtics) but not on > > CentOS 4.6 > > > > Thanks...I guess it's good enough for now. > > > > Craig > > > > ___ > > CentOS mailing list > > CentOS@centos.org > > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > > > > > I can only imagine it is "working" in 4.6 because the result of "grep > entry_chooser.js /var/log/httpd/access_log" is either empty or 1 > "word". The test syntax [ -z xxx ] would report the "too many > arguments" error whenever the grep returned more than one word. You can > test this at your command line by typing in:- > [ -z one ] > and > [ -z one two three four five ] > > The first will return "false" but you'll just see another bash prompt, > the second will report the "too many arguments" error. This is > certainly the case for me using RHEL4.6, so I would imagine CentOS4.6 > should be the same. You can also see it explained by these commands and > results:- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ [ -z ] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ echo $? > 0 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ [ -z one ] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ echo $? > 1 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$[ -z one two three four ] > -bash: [: too many arguments > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ echo $? > 2 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ > > I hope this helps you understand why it is "working" on one machine but > not another. > > Ian > > PS: I always prefer $(cmd) to backtics for readability. e.g. > > if [ -z "$(grep entry_chooser.js /var/log/httpd/access_log)" ] > > PPS: grep -q works for me on RHEL4.6 and CentOS5.1 makes a lot of sense - thanks Craig ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Re: OOM condition with file-4.17-9.0.1.el5
"Phil Schaffner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in bericht news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Fri, 2008-05-16 at 14:30 +0200, John wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> We just encountered several serious Out of Memory Problems caused by the >> file 4.17-9.0.1.EL5 utility on our mail Gateway. CentOS 5.1 kept it self >> alive by killing it parent process Amavisd-new. Manually restarting >> Amavisd-new and flushing the mail queue caused same problem. Disabling >> file >> for the moment, caused Amavisd-new to fail, and also defer all mail. >> >> My quick and dirty solution was the download the Fedora Core 9's >> file.4.23-5.src.rpm. and rebuild it on CentOS 5 After upgrading file, >> restarting Amavisd-new and flushing the Postfix queue, all mail was >> delivered without problems. >> >> Because our mail system went down, it didn't have the time to trace the >> message causing the problem. >> >> But I want to share here that the Redhat / CentOS EL5 file utility has >> problems and provide a quick workaround for the problem. > > Can't find a bug report on this for either CentOS-5 or upstream. > > Phil Phil, Some is always the first one running into a bug problem. I know, my mail is not very helpful helping indentifying the problem, but fact is that some mail triggered a problem in the file utility causing a out of memory problem rebuilding a new file utility with fc 9 srpms fixed my problem quickly. Our users already started to complain that the didn't receive any new email, some relations had already phoned, why we didn't reply on their mail. At that point quick action is necessary. The purpose of my mail is sharing that I ran into a file util problem. If I ran into, eventually some one else will to. And also how to quick and dirty fix the problem, if you can't wait for an official fix, provided by upstream provider . ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: tar spanning
> > > > > Ha! I beat you! > > > > > http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Scott+Silva&word2=Jim > >+Perrin > > > http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Anne+Wilson&word2=Jim+Perrin > > :-) > > Anne > http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Anne+Wilson&word2=David+Williams ;-> Dave ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting
Thanks, Johnny, for your comments. Can you post some URLs for CentOS forums you mentioned in your reply? I've searched high-and-low with no success. The other thing I'd love is a link to a good RSS (or Atom) feed devoted to RHEL and/or CentOS. Any help would be most appreciated. --Carol Anne > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johnny Hughes > Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 2:42 AM > To: CentOS mailing list > Subject: Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting > > Akemi Yagi wrote: > > On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Carol Anne Ogdin > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Jumping in late here: I sincerely wish that this list was > maintained > >> on any of the quality "bulletin board" or "Forum" tools. It would > >> reduce my eMail load, allow me to zoom in on just the issues of > >> interest to me at the moment, and I can eMail those posts > to myself > >> that are relevant to my own needs for further editing and > documentation. > >> > >> I find the entire USENET and eMail list thing utterly > antediluvian, > >> and wicked hard to use. Often, I can only barely remember that > >> *maybe* something relevant was discussed months ago, but is now > >> relevant to my current issue today. A "forum" is more > practical as a > >> tool for building a collective knowledge of the CentOS community. > >> This eMail list just doesn't cut it for a "knowledge base" > built up of our collective experience. > >> > >> Of course, for those of you who still prefer this medium, > a "forum" > >> can eMail you posts, just like you see them today. But people who > >> would like to search for a solution from a year or so ago could > >> search the central resource. > >> > >> --Carol Anne > > > > I think this post gives us a good message. That is that, just like > > there are many people who hate the forums, there are many users who > > prefer the forums over the mailing lists. > > > >>From what I have been observing by participating in the BOTH worlds > > for the last year or so, the number of people who are being > helped in > > the forums outgrows that of the mailing lists. And if you > do google > > searches, you tend to find forum posts more than mailing > posts. BUT, > > my intention is not to make a comparison -- they just have > different > > audience. > > > > The point I want to make is that if you feel one method is not as > > well-served as the other, efforts should be made to make the other > > method equally good. CentOS provides the two major venues, and we > > should be able to choose whichever the one we feel more comfortable > > without sacrificing the quality of help we get. The "C" in > CentOS is > > the driving force of the whole project. We, community > members, as a > > whole always need to think how best we can help others. > > > > My 2 cents worth, > > I just want to point out that there are forums for CentOS, we > have several moderators and community members who answer > questions there every day and we can akways use more users > there answering questions. > > You can also search and read this list in several places that > are available in a threaded format ... like: > > http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.linux.centos.general > > You can also search the archives using google and the site feature: > > in a google search box, do: > > site:http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/ "Top Posting" > > Regardless, forums, mailing lists and a wiki are all > available for CentOS users ... and each medium is driven by > "CentOS Users" who volunteer to participate for "CentOS > Users" who are looking for help. > We offer all 3 because different users prefer different methods. > > That is what open source is all about ... pick the method you > like and use it :D > > Thanks, > Johnny Hughes > > ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 07:54:26AM -0700, Carol Anne Ogdin enlightened us: > Thanks, Johnny, for your comments. > > Can you post some URLs for CentOS forums you mentioned in your reply? I've > searched high-and-low with no success. > www.centos.org -> Support -> Forums takes you to http://centos.org/modules/newbb/ > The other thing I'd love is a link to a good RSS (or Atom) feed devoted to > RHEL and/or CentOS. Any help would be most appreciated. > http://planet.centos.org/ Matt -- Matt Hyclak Department of Mathematics Department of Social Work Ohio University (740) 593-1263 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting
I actually DO subscribe to this list via gmail. However, I seldom bother
doing so through webmail, because I like my information to come to me,
rather than spending my time logging on, waiting for pages to refresh, etc.
I have long experience in group communication and on-line knowledge
accumulation (see, for example,
http://www.deepwoods.com/transform/pubs/Community.htm). My focus has always
been on the ease and efficiency with which individuals share knowledge with
their peers ("the rising tide lifts all boats"). My experience with
RHEL/CentOS is not as deep, and I'm eager to learn. I'd just like to help
bridge the gap that--to my observation--impedes knowledge transfer.
--Carol Anne
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bart Schaefer
> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 8:31 PM
> To: CentOS mailing list
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting
>
> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Carol Anne Ogdin
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I find the entire USENET and eMail list thing utterly antediluvian,
> > and wicked hard to use. Often, I can only barely remember that
> > *maybe* something relevant was discussed months ago, but is now
> > relevant to my current issue today. A "forum" is more
> practical as a
> > tool for building a collective knowledge of the CentOS community.
> > This eMail list just doesn't cut it for a "knowledge base"
> built up of our collective experience.
>
> Get yourself a gmail account and subscribe this list to it.
> The threaded presentation goes a long way, and a few
> additional minutes with the label setup tool can practically
> create your own personal forum layout, and if there are only
> a few things to catch up on you can quickly scan them under
> "All Mail" rather than having to check each of the different
> categories separately.
>
> I read nearly all my email lists in gmail now ... but,
> increasingly, email user agents like Thunderbird have similar
> features if you don't like a web interface (which given your
> attraction to forums is probably not an issue).
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Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting
Carol Anne Ogdin wrote: > > Can you post some URLs for CentOS forums you mentioned in your reply? I've > searched high-and-low with no success. Eh? www.centos.org -> support -> forums Or wiki.centos.org -> Help Or google -> [centos forums] [x] I feel lucky > The other thing I'd love is a link to a good RSS (or Atom) feed devoted to > RHEL and/or CentOS. planet.centos.org And please edit your mails. Cheers, Ralph pgpjlTbvAJRqw.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 7:59 AM, Matt Hyclak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 07:54:26AM -0700, Carol Anne Ogdin enlightened us: >> Thanks, Johnny, for your comments. >> >> Can you post some URLs for CentOS forums you mentioned in your reply? I've >> searched high-and-low with no success. > > www.centos.org -> Support -> Forums takes you to > http://centos.org/modules/newbb/ > >> The other thing I'd love is a link to a good RSS (or Atom) feed devoted to >> RHEL and/or CentOS. Any help would be most appreciated. > > http://planet.centos.org/ > > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Carol, Just for your information. The CentOS forum has an RSS too. Scroll to the bottom of the forum page Matt referred to. Akemi ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Re: tar spanning
> http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Anne+Wil son&word2=Jim+Perrin > > :-) > > Anne > Isn't there a fairly famous "Anne Wilson" from the 70's/80's-current? (Heart..., Ann Wilson, actually, but it's frequently misspelled.) That's not you, by chanceis it? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting
Les Mikesell questioned, "...who would go there to post any answers?" The answer is the same people who share here...and probably many more who find this sparse medium harder to navigate. There's a thriving community I helped create and nurture, which I've described at http://www.deepwoods.com/transform/pubs/Community.htm When there's value provided, many people will rise to the challenge of adding even more value. And, yes, I know there's an archive of posts to this forum, but the question is one of focus: Do you hold more value for a lively (virtual) meeting with lots of participants, or a quiet library where information is archived? This medium feels to me more like the latter. --Carol Anne > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Les Mikesell > Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 8:12 PM > To: CentOS mailing list > Subject: Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting > > Carol Anne Ogdin wrote: > > Jumping in late here: I sincerely wish that this list was > maintained > > on any of the quality "bulletin board" or "Forum" tools. It would > > reduce my eMail load, allow me to zoom in on just the issues of > > interest to me at the moment, and I can eMail those posts to myself > > that are relevant to my own needs for further editing and > documentation. > > If people only looked for questions when they were interested > in an answer, there wouldn't be any answers. > > > I find the entire USENET and eMail list thing utterly antediluvian, > > and wicked hard to use. Often, I can only barely remember that > > *maybe* something relevant was discussed months ago, but is now > > relevant to my current issue today. A "forum" is more > practical as a > > tool for building a collective knowledge of the CentOS community. > > But who would go there to post any answers? > > > Of course, for those of you who still prefer this medium, a "forum" > > can eMail you posts, just like you see them today. But people who > > would like to search for a solution from a year or so ago > could search > > the central resource. > > Huh? > > >> http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > > This is on the bottom of every message. Click it sometime > and follow the link there that says 'CentOS Archives'. But > Google is the place to search since it has the list contents > and a lot of other resources. > > -- >Les Mikesell > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Re: tar spanning
> But...if it were not for the sister-rock band Heart, would > that be the case? Namesake and all. > ;-) > > -R > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos DOH. Note to selfRead the whole thread before looking like a dufus ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting
Dear Mr. Singh: I understand you prefer this medium. I have practical experience with alternatives that have offered measurable and definite benefits to the communities they serve. Your opinions are louder than your putative experience. Unfortunately, in 51 years in the computer industry, I've sometimes had to cope with behaviors like yours. It still makes me sad to experience such unhappy people who think that attack is the best way to enrich a collaboration. --Carol Anne > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karanbir Singh > Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 6:07 PM > To: CentOS mailing list > Subject: Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting > > Carol Anne Ogdin wrote: > > Jumping in late here: I sincerely wish that this list was > maintained > > on any of the quality "bulletin board" or "Forum" tools. It would > > reduce my eMail load, allow me to zoom in on just the issues of > > interest to me at the moment, and I can eMail those posts to myself > > that are relevant to my own needs for further editing and > documentation. > > > > I find the entire USENET and eMail list thing utterly antediluvian, > > and wicked hard to use. Often, I can only barely remember that > > *maybe* something relevant was discussed months ago, but is now > > relevant to my current issue today. A "forum" is more > practical as a > > tool for building a collective knowledge of the CentOS community. > > This eMail list just doesn't cut it for a "knowledge base" > built up of our collective experience. > > > > Of course, for those of you who still prefer this medium, a "forum" > > can eMail you posts, just like you see them today. But people who > > would like to search for a solution from a year or so ago > could search > > the central resource. > > > Excuse me for being caustic, but you sound delusional. I'd > guess you have heard of this thing called 'search' ? it works > best on text, that is context specific and goes with you in > the list archive. > > Besides, Forums are a total and complete waste of time for > me. I cant be asked to go clicking around all over the place > looking for posts here and there in various websites and > pages while on the other hand I can aggregate the list feeds > that interest me into a common resource that is available to > me on th move or whenever I might need. > > And I know that this is the state of play with a large number > of people who dont have the time going out looking for > things, but prefer letting info / content come to them. Most > forums are populated by drive-by posters, since they have a > lower barrier to entry and an ever lower barrier to exit. > While is quite the opposite to the lists. The info comes to > you once you are subscribed, and an easy search digs up > relevant content when you need it. > > One of the reasons I have such high regard for the few people > who stick it out in the CentOS Forums working and helping the > people who come posting there is because I know just how much > work it is and just how much time is taken up by it. I, for > one, cant put in that effort. > > Anyway, if you dont like the lists, you can unsubscribe from > them ( subscription info is included in the headers of each > email sent form the list), and move to the forums on > www.centos.org. Why are you even here wasting your time ? > > I'd give you 40 technical reasons why forums are not nearly > as productive as lists, but I cant be asked really. > > -- > Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 08:00:59AM -0700, Carol Anne Ogdin wrote: > I actually DO subscribe to this list via gmail. However, I seldom bother ... Hi Carol (and all the other top posters), if you keep top posting, please could you at least DELETE the mail you are replying to? Tru -- Tru Huynh (mirrors, CentOS-3 i386/x86_64 Package Maintenance) http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xBEFA581B pgpsy0SwXKLhx.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Anyone configured two CentOS5 with shared storage forOracle 10 R2 HA/failover?
>Christopher Thorjussen wrote:
>> I've gotten the task to setup a two server/node system for Oracle
10R2
>> with HA/failover. I've got a SAN connected to both servers. Any hints
>> and tips? I've found the Cluster Suite Overview/Administration docs
at
>> http://www.centos.org/docs/5/.
>>
>> /Christopher
>>
>Something like this:
>http://www.idevelopment.info/data/Oracle/DBA_tips/Oracle11gRAC/CLUSTER_
10.shtml ???
>
>
>--
>CL Martinez
>carlopmart {at} gmail {d0t} com
Exactly something like that :D Thanks a bunch.
/Christopher
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Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting
On May 16, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Carol Anne Ogdin wrote: Can you post some URLs for CentOS forums you mentioned in your reply? I've searched high-and-low with no success. http://www.centos.org in the navbar, look for Support->Forums. or pick the *very first hit* from a Google: http://www.google.com/search?q=centos+forums or look at the "GettingHelp" page on the CentOS wiki: http://wiki.centos.org/GettingHelp please search slightly higher and lower :) -steve -- If this were played upon a stage now, I could condemn it as an improbable fiction. - Fabian, Twelfth Night, III,v ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Building NFS server with LVM and snapshots enabled
On Friday 16 May 2008 19:50:37 carlopmart wrote: > - Is it possible to do some type of scripting to do data snapshots every > day and then copy to a remote server?? Some example, please?? > - How can I restore snapshot data on the production server if I need to > recover it?? > Openfiler or FreeNAS isn't an option to do this task (customer > requeriment). This is a script to backup LVM using snapshot from Zimbra. Pls take a look at it and you can easily adjust it to your needs. http://www.arinet.org/zimbra-backup-lvm.sh.txt HTH, -- Fajar Priyanto | Reg'd Linux User #327841 | Linux tutorial http://linux2.arinet.org 22:32:39 up 39 min, 2.6.22-14-generic GNU/Linux Let's use OpenOffice. http://www.openoffice.org The real challenge of teaching is getting your students motivated to learn. zimbra-backup-lvm.sh Description: application/shellscript signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting
On May 16, 2008, at 11:14 AM, Carol Anne Ogdin wrote:
Your opinions are louder than your putative experience.
Unfortunately, in
51 years in the computer industry, I've sometimes had to cope with
behaviors
like yours. It still makes me sad to experience such unhappy
people who
think that attack is the best way to enrich a collaboration.
hmm. perhaps we should put some of that 51 years of experience to
use in evaluating this particular situation? while i can't see
inside your head, i can refer to the policies you yourself have
published (http://www.deepwoods.com/transform/pubs/DDB.htm).
The "core" participants can be identified by seeing how many other
people
("core" or not) refer to them by name. The named people are the
"core" group.
Make sure you remain sensitive to their concerns, for they
implicitly speak
for the entire population of participants.
by any definition, Karanbir is one of the core participants of this
forum and of the CentOS project. have you lurked here a while? if
so, i'm surprised you don't know this. on the CentOS website, please
check Information->The CentOS Team->Members and see if some of those
names look familiar. please treat him with the respect he is due.
If the boundaries are not clearly established, differing
expectations will
ensure that somebody feels the boundaries have been crossed. That's
why it's
important to have some published guidelines for behavior.
the CentOS project does, in fact, have such published guidelines for
mailing lists, available here:
http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=16
(that's Support->Mailing Lists off the main page). issues concerning
posting and quoting are covered there, quite unambiguously. please
respect the published guidelines of this forum, *as you yourself
recommend*.
Of course, the newcomer might immediately and inadvertently violate
some
local cultural norms, sort of like walking through the flower bed on
the
way to the front door. In this case, it's usually best to take the
process
of new party education off-line, into e-mail. Chastising people in
public
for not reading the published guidelines, or for doing something
they shouldn't
almost guarantees they'll never participate again.
ok, make up your mind; which do you want to be? are you a "tentative
participant" who doesn't know how to behave and needs to be
acculturated to this forum's norms, or are you a seasoned
professional with 117,000 messages worth of experience in community-
building? if you're the first, please stop telling everyone else how
to behave; if you're the second, please stop making newbie mistakes,
since you should know better.
thank you.
-steve
--
If this were played upon a stage now, I could condemn it as an
improbable fiction. - Fabian, Twelfth Night, III,v
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Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 8:08 AM, Carol Anne Ogdin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Les Mikesell questioned, "...who would go there to post any answers?" The > answer is the same people who share here...and probably many more who find > this sparse medium harder to navigate. I, for one, would be unlikely to go there to post answers. (Not that I'm a font of answers here, but see for example the zsh mailing lists). All forum software that I've used (which clearly doesn't include all forum software that exists) amplifies two of the most significant problems with asynchronous group communications: (1) failing to start a new thread when one should be started, and (2) starting a new thread when one should not. This happens on mailing lists too, of course, but at least with email I'm entirely in control of how I organize it, so I can re-group messages at will. Using forum software I'm forced to accept whatever (dis)organization the moderators or originator of the message chose. (If someone knows of forum software that doesn't have this problem -- that gives every user control over how his view of the postings is organized -- I'd be thrilled to hear about it. But if you want to tell me on-list, start a new thread. :-) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting
And, yes, I know there's an archive of posts to this forum, but the question is one of focus: Do you hold more value for a lively (virtual) meeting with lots of participants, or a quiet library where information is archived? This medium feels to me more like the latter. --Carol Anne It's a pretty rowdy library, as the archives might indicate. If I might engage in generalism, it gets much more lively when we're not really talking about CentOS. I'd guess that a large set of the folks subscribed to this list aren't here to be social, and aren't really interested in being excruciatingly social in a, "Hi, I just dropped by the list to say 'Hi!'" sort of way. I don't see this as a meeting with many virtual participants. I don't really think many here do, nor would I expect that the majority would even see meetings as anything more than time wasting when they could be getting something technical done. I'm not sure what the CentOS Leadership envision, but I'm pretty sure that the uber-for-the-users-ubuntu-facade isn't really what they're aiming for. The general tone as I perceive it is more of a "If you're here, you should already mostly know what you're doing. We were all newbs once, and we'll answer beginner questions grudgingly, but if you didn't bother to do your homework, we don't have much use for you." And that might not be such a bad place to be. If you haven't used Google before you ask on the list, you're missing a good bet. Since the mailing list archives and forums are both searchable via Google, and probably permanent fixtures on the internet (as permanent as anything is on the internet), Google to me acts as the central repository of all the accumulated knowledge on this particular topic. My guess is that most folks do something similar. I recommend it as a course of action. Emailing the list with the expectation that someone else is going to do your thinking for you will likely be met with an extra dose of caustic and grump, for that is, at best, begging, and, at worst, outright theft. Sincerely, Jacob Leaver Sr. System Administrator ReachONE Internet ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] samba & samba-common installed then erased, but by whom?
I saw this in Logwatch today for one of my servers: - yum Begin Packages Installed: samba-common.i386 3.0.23c-2.el5.2.0.2 samba.i386 3.0.23c-2.el5.2.0.2 Packages Erased: samba-common samba -- yum End - No one, including myself, has even logged into this box in the past few days (verified by asking the only other two people who have access and also looking at the last & secure logs). And neither /var/log/yum.log or /var/log/rpmpkgs shows samba at all being installed/erased/present. I ran both chkrootkit and rkhunter, and both turned up clean. Since this box is behind a firewall with only a few IPs given access to it, I'm thinking that it's not been rooted, but I can't seem to find any other explanation for this. The only thing that runs on this server is httpd and jetty. Everything else is done manually including yum updates. And nothing that runs on this machine would ever need samba. Has anyone ever encountered something like this? johnn ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting
On Fri, 2008-05-16 at 02:06 +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote: > Carol Anne Ogdin wrote: > > Jumping in late here: I sincerely wish that this list was maintained on any > > of the quality "bulletin board" or "Forum" tools. It would reduce my eMail > > load, allow me to zoom in on just the issues of interest to me at the > > moment, and I can eMail those posts to myself that are relevant to my own > > needs for further editing and documentation. > > > > I find the entire USENET and eMail list thing utterly antediluvian, and > > wicked hard to use. Often, I can only barely remember that *maybe* > > something relevant was discussed months ago, but is now relevant to my > > current issue today. A "forum" is more practical as a tool for building a > > collective knowledge of the CentOS community. This eMail list just doesn't > > cut it for a "knowledge base" built up of our collective experience. > > > > Of course, for those of you who still prefer this medium, a "forum" can > > eMail you posts, just like you see them today. But people who would like to > > search for a solution from a year or so ago could search the central > > resource. > > > Excuse me for being caustic, but you sound delusional. I'd guess you have > heard > of this thing called 'search' ? it works best on text, that is context > specific > and goes with you in the list archive. > > Besides, Forums are a total and complete waste of time for me. I cant be > asked > to go clicking around all over the place looking for posts here and there in > various websites and pages while on the other hand I can aggregate the list > feeds that interest me into a common resource that is available to me on th > move > or whenever I might need. > > And I know that this is the state of play with a large number of people who > dont > have the time going out looking for things, but prefer letting info / content > come to them. Most forums are populated by drive-by posters, since they have > a > lower barrier to entry and an ever lower barrier to exit. While is quite the > opposite to the lists. The info comes to you once you are subscribed, and an > easy search digs up relevant content when you need it. > > One of the reasons I have such high regard for the few people who stick it > out > in the CentOS Forums working and helping the people who come posting there is > because I know just how much work it is and just how much time is taken up by > it. I, for one, cant put in that effort. > > Anyway, if you dont like the lists, you can unsubscribe from them ( > subscription > info is included in the headers of each email sent form the list), and move > to > the forums on www.centos.org. Why are you even here wasting your time ? > > I'd give you 40 technical reasons why forums are not nearly as productive as > lists, but I cant be asked really. Common thread to all of this, is that we are all individuals with different work flows that work better for us. What puzzles me, is why people are so religiously fanatical and disrespectful of the views of others, preferring to chastise and even go as far as you have here, to call her view and choice to be here, regardless of her preference, as a waste of her time. We should all remember, that the very policies that we have, came from the free flow exchange of ideas and beliefs, in a respectful manner, that they are not written in stone, and absolutely should be challenged continually, as the tools, technologies, and environment changes, which is constant. It is these free flow exchange of beliefs and ideas, that will pave the way for us to the future. You don't have to agree with someone else, you are allowed to do and use what works best for you, and to share with everyone your own beliefs about such, but you do have to respect each others right to their belief, and agree to disagree. I think both of you are right on your technology preference here, because you know what works for you most efficiently. There is no place for this belittlement and chastising, and name calling for that matter (which happened to me on this subject), amongst professionals. That is all very childish IMHO. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: tar spanning
On Friday 16 May 2008 16:05, Dennis McLeod wrote: > > http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Anne+Wil > > son&word2=Jim+Perrin > > > :-) > > > > Anne > > Isn't there a fairly famous "Anne Wilson" from the 70's/80's-current? > (Heart..., Ann Wilson, actually, but it's frequently misspelled.) > That's not you, by chanceis it? > Sorry, no :-) Changing the search to cannewilson brings up a mere 13,800, though. Anne ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] samba & samba-common installed then erased, but by whom?
Johnny Tan wrote: I saw this in Logwatch today for one of my servers: - yum Begin Packages Installed: samba-common.i386 3.0.23c-2.el5.2.0.2 samba.i386 3.0.23c-2.el5.2.0.2 Packages Erased: samba-common samba -- yum End - No one, including myself, has even logged into this box in the past few days (verified by asking the only other two people who have access and also looking at the last & secure logs). And neither /var/log/yum.log or /var/log/rpmpkgs shows samba at all being installed/erased/present. I ran both chkrootkit and rkhunter, and both turned up clean. Since this box is behind a firewall with only a few IPs given access to it, I'm thinking that it's not been rooted, but I can't seem to find any other explanation for this. The only thing that runs on this server is httpd and jetty. Everything else is done manually including yum updates. And nothing that runs on this machine would ever need samba. Has anyone ever encountered something like this? johnn ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos If I may refer you to this thread, I believe your observations are similar to mine earlier this month: http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2008-May/098839.html and the cause is likely similar. Checking /var/log/yum.log for entries 1 year ago should confirm this. Regards, Ned ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] samba & samba-common installed then erased, but by whom?
On 16/05/2008, Johnny Tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And neither /var/log/yum.log or /var/log/rpmpkgs shows samba at all being > installed/erased/present. It might be worthwhile checking how often / at what size you yum.log file gets rotated. It could be that you are seeing the entry in /var/log/yum.log from a year ago . . . Alan. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Re: has something happened to grep
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jerry Geis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Do you have a file name that starts with a "-" in your directory? > > > > Mogens > > Yes I do actually. There is a -f filename of which I dont need. > > I tried rm *f and it is not removing it. No what? Ouch! That may well have deleted any other files with a name ending in f, while leaving the file -f still there! [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]$ touch ./-f ae af ag be bf bg [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]$ ls -f ae af ag be bf bg [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]$ echo *f -f af bf [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]$ rm *f [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]$ ls -f ae ag be bg Easiest way to remove the file -f is: rm ./-f Cheers Tony -- Tony Mountifield Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.softins.co.uk Play: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://tony.mountifield.org ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] samba & samba-common installed then erased, but by whom?
Ned Slider wrote: and the cause is likely similar. Checking /var/log/yum.log for entries 1 year ago should confirm this. Ned/Alan: You guys hit it on the head. Thanks. I wasn't aware of this little oddity. Thanks, johnn ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] samba & samba-common installed then erased, but by whom?
Johnny Tan wrote: Ned Slider wrote: and the cause is likely similar. Checking /var/log/yum.log for entries 1 year ago should confirm this. Ned/Alan: You guys hit it on the head. Thanks. I wasn't aware of this little oddity. Thanks, johnn You're welcome :) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Forums
Bart Schaefer wrote: On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 8:08 AM, Carol Anne Ogdin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Les Mikesell questioned, "...who would go there to post any answers?" The answer is the same people who share here...and probably many more who find this sparse medium harder to navigate. I, for one, would be unlikely to go there to post answers. (Not that I'm a font of answers here, but see for example the zsh mailing lists). All forum software that I've used (which clearly doesn't include all forum software that exists) amplifies two of the most significant problems with asynchronous group communications: (1) failing to start a new thread when one should be started, and (2) starting a new thread when one should not. This happens on mailing lists too, of course, but at least with email I'm entirely in control of how I organize it, so I can re-group messages at will. Using forum software I'm forced to accept whatever (dis)organization the moderators or originator of the message chose. (If someone knows of forum software that doesn't have this problem -- that gives every user control over how his view of the postings is organized -- I'd be thrilled to hear about it. But if you want to tell me on-list, start a new thread. :-) There is software that can gateway between forum views and email lists pretty much transparently but it doesn't fix any problems you might have with either view of things - like making neat threads out of a conversation that drifts over more than one topic. Some samples here: http://www.backupcentral.com/phpBB2/ -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Forums
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 09:41:12AM -0700, Les Mikesell wrote: > There is software that can gateway between forum views and email lists > pretty much transparently but it doesn't fix any problems you might have > with either view of things - like making neat threads out of a > conversation that drifts over more than one topic. > > Some samples here: http://www.backupcentral.com/phpBB2/ I think the OpenSolaris forums do this with their setup. Messages seem to show up on both their forums and their mailing lists. However they are doing it seems fairly effective. As long as the forums enforce some formatting guidelines to ensure that posts look "correct" when they show up on the mailing list, and we're not seeing a lot of funky forum usernames, this could possibly work. Probably not a real need however. :) Ray ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting
Carol Anne Ogdin wrote: Les Mikesell questioned, "...who would go there to post any answers?" The answer is the same people who share here...and probably many more who find this sparse medium harder to navigate. There's a thriving community I helped create and nurture, which I've described at http://www.deepwoods.com/transform/pubs/Community.htm I don't really want a community in my mail box. I want answers to technical problems and if I happen to have an answer someone else needs, I'll post it. When there's value provided, many people will rise to the challenge of adding even more value. And, yes, I know there's an archive of posts to this forum, but the question is one of focus: Do you hold more value for a lively (virtual) meeting with lots of participants, or a quiet library where information is archived? This medium feels to me more like the latter. When everything works right, there should be no traffic on this list at all. No news is good news in the technical problems department. If you are looking for instructions on something that works and is documented, this is the wrong place to start. If following the documentation didn't work, you are doing something new, or you are surprised by your results, then bring it on and you are likely to find someone who just solved the same problem. Or if you are just confused you'll probably get a friendly pointer to the right starting point, but that's not what I think of as a community and it's mostly not discussion for discussion's sake. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Re: [CentOS-announce] Impact of the Debian OpenSSL vulnerability
[please CC me on replies] On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 08:08:39PM +0200, Daniel de Kok wrote: > Questions on how this may affect CentOS users should be directed to > the CentOS users list. List subscription information is available > from: In addition to the fixed OpenSSL packages, Debian also released an update to OpenSSH that includes a blacklist of the weak keys. With this update, any connections attempting to authenticate with a weak key are rejected. There's also a utility which searches through user ~/.ssh directories for blacklisted keys. This blacklist would help in securing non-Debian systems as well. Are there any plans to include this ssh update in CentOS? -- Chris Butler Zedcore Systems Ltd UK tel: 0114 238 1828 We have moved to: Lydgate House, Lydgate Lane, Sheffield S10 5FH ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting
Carol Anne Ogdin wrote: And, yes, I know there's an archive of posts to this forum, but the question is one of focus: Do you hold more value for a lively (virtual) meeting with lots of participants, or a quiet library where information is archived? This medium feels to me more like the latter. with ~ 60-70 messages since midnight last night?!? 100+ email messages/day is a fairly busy email list by any standards. but, yes, I'd rather go to the library and read a well written book than hang out at a party where 300 people are all small-talking at once. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] CentOS-DS
Hey all, I am looking at deploying a directory server in a small network. Currently looking at Fedora-ds and I noticed that CentOS is currently working on one. Does anyone know if the CentOS-DS is working well at this point? I noticed a how to is up on the wiki and was wondering if maybe it was preferable to Fedora-ds at this point. Thanks, Jason Ross smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] phenom anyone B3 stepping of course
I was considering getting a Phenom 2.4G and B3 stepping (cheap $219). I was wondering if anyone has been using it with centos 5.1 x86_64 and found them stable now. Jerry ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 10:01 AM, John R Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > with ~ 60-70 messages since midnight last night?!? 100+ email messages/day > is a fairly busy email list by any standards. > > but, yes, I'd rather go to the library and read a well written book than > hang out at a party where 300 people are all small-talking at once. > (w.r.t. this whole thread, including my own "contributions") Well, there goes my social life. mhr :-) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting
Thanks, Steve. I dunno how I missed that source. --Carol Anne > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Huff > Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 8:19 AM > To: CentOS mailing list > Subject: Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting > > > On May 16, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Carol Anne Ogdin wrote: > > > Can you post some URLs for CentOS forums you mentioned in > your reply? > > I've searched high-and-low with no success. > > http://www.centos.org > > in the navbar, look for Support->Forums. > > or pick the *very first hit* from a Google: > > http://www.google.com/search?q=centos+forums > > or look at the "GettingHelp" page on the CentOS wiki: > > http://wiki.centos.org/GettingHelp > > please search slightly higher and lower :) > > -steve > > -- > If this were played upon a stage now, I could condemn it as > an improbable fiction. - Fabian, Twelfth Night, III,v > > > > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Convert a real system in a DomU
Hi, I was a server running Fedora 6. I want to migrate it to Xen on a Centos 5.1. Can I make something like dd if=/dev/sdaX of=fedora6.img (on FC6) and then on Centos 5.1 dd if=fedora6.img of=/dev/sdaX Could I run this system into Xen? Thanks in advance! -- -- Open Kairos http://www.openkairos.com Watch More TV http://sebelk.blogspot.com Sergio Belkin - ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting
Jason Pyeron wrote: I just wish I could configure my outlook ... Configure it? Don't you know how to move the cursor? The point is that you are supposed to delete the irrelevant context as you move down, replying underneath the parts you leave so it lands it the right place conversation-wise. I know that, but it was a lot easier in pine. I'm not sure I've ever seen the words 'easy' and 'pine' used in the same sentence before. Pine has to have the most counterintuitive interface known to man. I usually hold the shift key down while using the down-arrow to move over the parts to remove which will select/highlight it, hit delete at the end of the irrelevant part, arrow on down past the relevant context to add my response below it, repeating if there is more than one section continuing in the conversation. Seems natural to me, works in just about every GUI-type mailer and the cursor moves down as fast as I can read so it doesn't slow anything down. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] OT: Top Posting
On Fri, 16 May 2008, Les Mikesell wrote: I'm not sure I've ever seen the words 'easy' and 'pine' used in the same sentence before. Pine has to have the most counterintuitive interface known to man. I usually hold the shift key down while using the down-arrow to move over the parts to remove which will select/highlight it, hit delete at the end of the irrelevant part, arrow on down past the relevant context to add my response below it, repeating if there is more than one section continuing in the conversation. There's the problem, Les !! -- the pine (now, alpine) editor, pico, does not work that way. Fortunately, [al]pine will honor an EDITOR environment variable for those preferring a different editor, so one can go nuts, and even, say, use emacs. - Russ herrold ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting
On Fri, 16 May 2008, R P Herrold wrote: There's the problem, Les !! -- the pine (now, alpine) editor, pico, does not work that way. Fortunately, [al]pine will honor an EDITOR environment variable for those preferring a different editor, so one can go nuts, and even, say, use emacs. I love alpine. It works with UTF-8 so you can read spam in the original Hebrew or Chinese, but it's text-only so you avoid NSFW images. You get foreign language practice in an HR-acceptable manner. Woohoo! -- Paul Heinlein <> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <> http://www.madboa.com/ ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Paul Heinlein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I love alpine. It works with UTF-8 so you can read spam in the original > Hebrew or Chinese, but it's text-only so you avoid NSFW images. You get > foreign language practice in an HR-acceptable manner. Woohoo! Yes, alpine makes a huge difference for me (a long time user of pine). I can read/write in my native language Japanese. I used to have to use a separate mail client when communicating in .jp, but now I don't have to. Akemi ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Convert a real system in a DomU
"Sergio Belkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > dd if=/dev/sdaX of=fedora6.img (on FC6) of course, you can't do this if you are booting off /dev/sdaX- boot into a rescue disk or something. > and then on Centos 5.1 > > dd if=fedora6.img of=/dev/sdaX > > Could I run this system into Xen? assuming you sized things correctly, yes. Personally I find it easier to just make .tar.gz files of the entire system. A few things you need to do to the fc image before you start. you want to install the xen kernel and make an entry for it in PyGrub before you move to step 1. fix the /etc/fstab to match what you call your disks in the xm config file. make sure the initrd you make has --preload xenblk make sure you run a getty on the console (for CentOS, the console is xvc0 I assume it is the same for fc) so add xvc0 to /etc/securetty and run a getty on it in /etc/inittab after this you can make the image as above. your config file needs to be something like this: bootloader = "/usr/bin/pygrub" memory = 512 name = "fc_test" vif = [] disk = [ 'phy:/dev/sdaX,sda,w' ] it should 'just work' ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] symbolic linking
I have a number directories under /opt on computer jack. I want some (not all) of them to appear in /opt on computer jill. I have the /opt directory on jack mounted on jill under /mnt/jack If I go into the /opt directory on jill and do this: ln -s /mnt/jack/opt/files . I get /opt/files/files on jill. What I want is /opt/files and I can't see what I'm doing wrong. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting
William Warren wrote: > Beyond casutic...who's slaging here karanbir? He expressed his opinion > and last time i checked there wasn't a rule against that. While your > reply was inflamatory you also have the right to fire back..however > saying it's not ok to do something that wasn't against any of the rules > of this forum is just being caustic for being caustic's sake. > > Karanbir Singh wrote: >> That does not mean you go slaging off one communication medium in >> another. If IRC is the only thing that works for you, that does not >> mean its OK to go farking off in the lists and forums. I think you need to read the posts again, I am not being caustic for the sake of being caustic at all. My point is simply that if the lists dont work for you, leave. But if you intend to hang around you are expected to make an effort at being in sync with what the other longer term users on these lists expect. eg. trimming posts and not top posting is a good start. Two very basic things, trivial to handle and execute, yet so many users dont bother to do. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting
Doug Tucker wrote: >> I'd give you 40 technical reasons why forums are not nearly as productive as >> lists, but I cant be asked really. > > Common thread to all of this, is that we are all individuals with > different work flows that work better for us. What puzzles me, is why > people are so religiously fanatical and disrespectful of the views of > others, preferring to chastise and even go as far as you have here, to > call her view and choice to be here, regardless of her preference, as a > waste of her time. Doug, if you reread my post you will notice that I am not fanatical about any single form of communication and quite openly acknowledged the work done by other people in other communication venues. All you are doig is re-iterating my point : different people have different needs and uses. Some are here on the list since thats what works for them and the lists come with some guidelines. We ( the CentOS Project ) expect users in these lists to make an effort to adhere to these rules and guidelines. I see nothing unreasable in that whatsoever. Anyway, as has already been said quite a few times - if the lists dont work for you, leave. Subscription info is included in each email sent from the list. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: has something happened to grep
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Jerry Geis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Somehow the VIM start screen is in the -f file... Not sure how that happened > but glad its gone. What do you mean? When you type "vim" on the terminal it tries to open the file named "-f"? If that's the case, check the ".viminfo" file in your home directory. It saves the state of the last vim session and re-opens it when you execute vim again. Maybe you still have a reference to the offending file there. HTH, Filipe ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting
Hi, Carol Anne Ogdin wrote: > Dear Mr. Singh: > > I understand you prefer this medium. I have practical experience with > alternatives that have offered measurable and definite benefits to the > communities they serve. Which is quite fair, and the point I was making as well. However, the poit I was also making ( and have now repeated about 4 times ) is- this is the lists not the forums. We have some guidelines and the moderaters will make an effort to implement them. > Your opinions are louder than your putative experience. Unfortunately, in > 51 years in the computer industry, I've sometimes had to cope with behaviors > like yours. It still makes me sad to experience such unhappy people who > think that attack is the best way to enrich a collaboration. ok, so you are > 51 years old. Which was good to know. I'll respect you for your age. Apart from that you've made no real contribution to the conversation here. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OOM condition with file-4.17-9.0.1.el5
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 8:30 AM, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We just encountered several serious Out of Memory Problems caused by the > file 4.17-9.0.1.EL5 utility on our mail Gateway. CentOS 5.1 kept it self > alive by killing it parent process Amavisd-new. Manually restarting > Amavisd-new and flushing the mail queue caused same problem. Disabling file > for the moment, caused Amavisd-new to fail, and also defer all mail. I cannot understand it. On which situations would the "file" utility be causing OOM issues? "file" is not a daemon or something that is running all the time. And to generate an OOM situation, you have to exhaust all the memory on your machine. Could you give more details here? How much memory does the machine have? How much swap space does the machine have? Why do you believe "file" is the offending application? Who is using "file" on a regular basis? What types of files are being tested for type with the "file" utility? Can you produce a specific file which causes "file" to allocate a lot of memory? Can you produce the output of "ps" or "top" which shows "file" using a lot of memory just before a crash? If you don't give us such details, it's really hard to believe that "file" is what is causing your issue. Please back your statement. Filipe ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] samba & samba-common installed then erased, but by whom?
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Ned Slider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Johnny Tan wrote: >> I saw this in Logwatch today for one of my servers: > > Checking /var/log/yum.log for entries 1 > year ago should confirm this. As this bit me once and I've just seen two people bitten by it again, I've taken the matter upstream: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=447021 I hope they'll accept the suggestion. Thanks, Filipe ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] clustered mail server?
Karanbir Singh wrote: Rudi Ahlers wrote: I'm looking for a working HOWTO / Tutorial / sample setup of setting up a clustered email server. I know I can setup a CentOS cluster with Heartbeat & drbd, but I'm not 100% convinced it will work for the email as well. What problem are you trying to solve ? Cyrus-imapd has native replication for example. - KB ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos I don't have a problem to solve, but I don't know which mail server to use either. But, like I said, ideally I'd like to use one of the groupware type mailserver (POP3, SMTP, IMAP, calendar, address book, etc) -- Kind Regards Rudi Ahlers CEO, SoftDux Web: http://www.SoftDux.com Check out my technical blog, http://blog.softdux.com for Linux or other technical stuff, or visit http://www.WebHostingTalk.co.za for Web Hosting stuff ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] samba & samba-common installed then erased, but by whom?
Filipe Brandenburger wrote: On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Ned Slider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Johnny Tan wrote: I saw this in Logwatch today for one of my servers: Checking /var/log/yum.log for entries 1 year ago should confirm this. As this bit me once and I've just seen two people bitten by it again, I've taken the matter upstream: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=447021 I hope they'll accept the suggestion. Thanks, Filipe Thanks Filipe, as one of those bitten I've subscribed to the bug. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS-DS
Jason Ross wrote: Hey all, I am looking at deploying a directory server in a small network. Currently looking at Fedora-ds and I noticed that CentOS is currently working on one. Does anyone know if the CentOS-DS is working well at this point? I noticed a how to is up on the wiki and was wondering if maybe it was preferable to Fedora-ds at this point. it is a rebuild of rhds 8.0 ... it seems to work as well as that does from all the testing I have done. However, if I were you, I would look at freeipa: http://freeipa.org/ Thanks, Johnny Hughes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] kernel-2.6.9-67.0.15.plus.c4.i586.rpm
Are there plans to release kernel-2.6.9-67.0.15.plus.c4.i586.rpm ?? Thanks, Barry ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] samba & samba-common installed then erased, but by whom?
And another pet peeve of mine with logrotate: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=447022 Once after an unclean reboot I got a corrupted /var/lib/logrotate.status, and after that logrotate just stopped working. The thing was that the server generated hundreds of megs per hour of log, and without logrotate very quickly we had a multi-gigabyte log in our hands. Let's see if they will make this a more robust tool than it is today. Filipe ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Top Posting
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Karanbir Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Carol Anne Ogdin wrote: >> Dear Mr. Singh: >> >> I understand you prefer this medium. I have practical experience with >> alternatives that have offered measurable and definite benefits to the >> communities they serve. > > Which is quite fair, and the point I was making as well. However, the > poit I was also making ( and have now repeated about 4 times ) is- this > is the lists not the forums. We have some guidelines and the moderaters > will make an effort to implement them. > >> Your opinions are louder than your putative experience. Unfortunately, in >> 51 years in the computer industry, I've sometimes had to cope with behaviors >> like yours. It still makes me sad to experience such unhappy people who >> think that attack is the best way to enrich a collaboration. > > ok, so you are > 51 years old. Which was good to know. I'll respect you > for your age. Apart from that you've made no real contribution to the > conversation here. I think the thing that's annoying about top posting is explained with this example (grabbed from a Boston Linux & Unix Group signature). I'll have to admit when I'm not thinking about it, there have been a few times where I've top posted (bad habit from the corporate world), but if people would take 5 minutes to read a complete thread backwards with comments inserted in between other comments, it gets very confusing. Bottom posting or posting in between comments makes sense. A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- -matt ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] clustered mail server?
Rudi Ahlers wrote: >>> I'm looking for a working HOWTO / Tutorial / sample setup of setting >>> up a clustered email server. I know I can setup a CentOS cluster with > I don't have a problem to solve, but I don't know which mail server to > use either. But, like I said, ideally I'd like to use one of the > groupware type mailserver (POP3, SMTP, IMAP, calendar, address book, etc) Well, I am sure you have some reason to setup a cluster. Is it for failover / redundancy ? or is it for higher performance ? or is it to distribute load geographically ? distribute load by service ? You need to first work out what you want to do. What setup and howto set it up will depend on what you are trying to achieve ( = what problem you are trying to solve ). However, keep in mind that anything more than small to small medium setups for mail storage usually end at Cyrus. - KB PS: try trimming your replies to remove unneeded content -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: [CentOS-announce] Impact of the Debian OpenSSL vulnerability
Chris Butler wrote: > In addition to the fixed OpenSSL packages, Debian also released an update to > OpenSSH that includes a blacklist of the weak keys. With this update, any > connections attempting to authenticate with a weak key are rejected. There's > also a utility which searches through user ~/.ssh directories for > blacklisted keys. > > This blacklist would help in securing non-Debian systems as well. Are there > any plans to include this ssh update in CentOS? Dag pointed out that Suse is also considering setting up a blacklist of this nature. I dont mind looking at something like this within CentOS if someone wants to make a case for it. Would it be better to just have some tool ( Daniel already brought that up! ) that could audit setups instead of running such a blacklist ? Imho, the CentOS team would be open at looking at anything that helps improve security for the users. And lets also keep an eye on what comes down from upstream. But till such time as there is an upstream release to address this issue ( if at all ) nothing stops us from providing the resources required. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS-DS
Johnny Hughes wrote: >> I am looking at deploying a directory server in a small network. >> Currently looking at Fedora-ds and I noticed that CentOS is currently >> working on one. Does anyone know if the CentOS-DS is working well at > However, if I were you, I would look at freeipa: > http://freeipa.org/ Just adding to what Johnny already said, the CentOS-DS is a rebuild of the commerical Redhat Directory Service, and it does work. And yes, its a good time to start looking at freeipa.org as well - but if you do, its also a good time to start working on some binary packages for freeipa that work with CentOS-4/5 and getting a wiki page up with a howto :D -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Centos Freezing
On Thursday 15 May 2008 21:51, Karanbir Singh wrote: > Hi Robert, > > Robert Spangler wrote: > > For some reason at different times Centos will freeze and not allow me > > to do anything. This doesn't happen while I'm working on the system but > > after I have locked my session and then return. It could goes days > > without a lockup and then the next time I try to log in it'll be frozen. > > > > I would like to know if anyone else has seen this or knows of a fix or > > where I could start to look to find out if there is a process or > > something causing this. > > Not me, have not had such an issue. make sure you are completely > yum-updated for a start. Always. Done nightly. :) > > I normally have the same programs running so I don't think it could be > > caused by me starting and then leaving something new running. > > I guess the reason why no one has replied to your post so far is that its > hard to work out or even think about such issues without some more context. > Do you have proprietary drivers installed for anything ? ndiswrapper for > wifi ? grfx drivers for nvidia or ati ? Could there be a network issue ? Only thing I'm running that isn't in the repo's is the nVidia driver for my Geforce FX550. Oh, Thnx for the reply!! -- Regards Robert Smile... it increases your face value! Linux User #296285 http://counter.li.org ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] clustered mail server?
I don't have a problem to solve, but I don't know which mail server to use either. But, like I said, ideally I'd like to use one of the groupware type mailserver (POP3, SMTP, IMAP, calendar, address book, etc) What you want is a centralised and yet distributed user information database whether mysql, postgresql, ldap and centralised but yet distributed mail storage. Just about any MTA that can be installed on Centos will support the first be it qmail, sendmail, postfix or exim. IMAP/POP3 wise, dovecot or courier-imap can also support the first. The second is best to hide from the application layer by implementing it at the file system level with say GFS. Address book can be plain old ldap. Calendar...sorry that is even more integrating. You might want to try JES (Java Enterprise System) besides the others that you have mentioned. Thunderbird has calendar support. Oh, happy integrating and interface buliding/modifying for this lot. If you are looking for a server solution for outlook, please just go and either get Exchange or go trouble the guys running OX and so on because Centos has zero solutions that support Outlook with all its features in force. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS-DS
Karanbir Singh wrote: Johnny Hughes wrote: I am looking at deploying a directory server in a small network. Currently looking at Fedora-ds and I noticed that CentOS is currently working on one. Does anyone know if the CentOS-DS is working well at However, if I were you, I would look at freeipa: http://freeipa.org/ Just adding to what Johnny already said, the CentOS-DS is a rebuild of the commerical Redhat Directory Service, and it does work. And yes, its a good time to start looking at freeipa.org as well - but if you do, its also a good time to start working on some binary packages for freeipa that work with CentOS-4/5 and getting a wiki page up with a howto :D There is also Sun Directory Server which is completely free. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
