[CentOS] [T-dose-announce] Screenshots of your fav opensource software or desktop ( high resolution - 1002-768 ) for slide show on t-dose (fwd)

[Dag Wieers]

Hi CentOS users,

The centos-promo team is looking for your help.

Is anyone interested in creating nice CentOS screenshots ?

We can have them on the wiki as well for future articles or presentations.

A good screenshot should:

  + Be clear on what it is showing
- applications like eg. inkscape should have a file opened
- files opened in applications should make clear what the application
  does
- try not to show off too many things at once, in order to not
  overwhelm or confuse

  + The CentOS logo (and name) should be clearly visible
- possibly by using the content in applications
  eg. inkscape could open the SVG CentOS logo with some text
  or Open Office could show an important CentOS slide that also holds
  the major advantages of CentOS
- or making the background visible with CentOS theme

Please let me know if you are interested to contribute in this fashion.

Thanks for your help !
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Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 09:38:19 +0200
Subject: [T-dose-announce] Screenshots of your fav opensource software or
desktop ( high resolution - 1002-768 ) for slide show on t-dose

Hello all, i am putting together an slide show for t-dose , wich will be
presented on an screen during the event,
in continu play, please send your fav screenshot of the desktop / and
software to me, and i will add it to the show,
thank you and untill then , bye bye

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[CentOS] Postgres Config File (eg: PGDATA)

[Ow Mun Heng]

Hi guys,

need some clarification on whether there is a config file sourced by the
init script to determine where PGDATA is located.

Right now, it seems like it's not sourced from anywhere by located on
the init file itself.

Appreciate if you guys can let me know if this is the correct place for
altering it.
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Re: [CentOS] Postgres Config File (eg: PGDATA)

[Marko A. Jennings]

On Tue, September 25, 2007 3:34 am, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> need some clarification on whether there is a config file sourced by the
> init script to determine where PGDATA is located.
>
> Right now, it seems like it's not sourced from anywhere by located on
> the init file itself.
>
> Appreciate if you guys can let me know if this is the correct place for
> altering it.

Multiple instances of Postgres database will have separate init scripts. 
The location of the config file for each init script is

/etc/sysconfig/pgsql/

For example, for the default init script (/etc/init.d/postgresql) that
gets installed with Postgres, the config file is
/etc/sysconfig/pgsql/postgresql .  Although the /etc/sysconfig/pgsql
directory gets created when Postgres is installed, you will not find any
config files in it initially.  In order to change the default PGDATA
(and/or PGPORT) values, you sill need to create appropriately named config
file that will look like this:

PGDATA=/data/pg
PGPORT=3456

You don't need to set both values in it if you are changing only one
default value.

I hope this helps.

Marko
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Re: [CentOS] Zoneminder-1.22.3-6.fc7.i386.rpm has dependency errors on Centos5 server-how to fix?

[Dag Wieers]

On Mon, 24 Sep 2007, Ken Sedlacek wrote:

> Running Centos5 server software.
>
> Running ALL software except virtualization and server cluster.
>
> Patched this server software via yum updates as of 9.24.2007
>
> Downloaded the webcam software for FC7 from:
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=10106

> Zoneminder-1.22.3-6.fc7.i386.rpm
> When YUM tried to install this version of Zondminder, finds this 1
> missing dependency:
>
> Missing Dependency: perl(Device::SerialPort) is needed by package
> zoneminder
>
> Question: how do I resolve this missing dependency?
>
> I have never compiled a kernal or anything else.
>
> Please lead me to a direction to resolve this.

Look at:

http://wiki.centos.org/PackageManagement/Yum/Priorities
http://wiki.centos.org/Repositories/RPMForge

If you have enabled the RPMforge repository, you can simply run:

yum install perl-Device-SerialPort

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Re: [CentOS] Re: Central file server advice please

[John Bowden]

On Monday 24 September 2007 12:33:39 William Warren wrote:
> I mistyped..hardware raid is the way to go.  FRIAD will perform worse
> than Linux software raid most times..:)
>
> Feizhou wrote:
> > William Warren wrote:
> >> actually it'll perform WORSE in many cases than Linux software raid.
> >
> > Used to (bar buggy firmware, incompatibilities). Most hardware raid
> > cards nowadays not only have sufficient processing power, they also come
> > with decent sizes of RAM cache which helps swing things a lot in their
> > favour.
> >
> > If the load goes beyond what the card can handle, then yes, Linux
> > software raid is the way to go.
> >
> >> Scott Silva wrote:
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake the following on 9/21/2007 2:43 AM:
>  Exactly how much throughput are you realistically anticipating?
>  What connection are you going to use?  802.11 or 10/100 or gige?
>  And yes, the chips will pretty much always give you better
>  performance with raid.
> >>>
> >>> Hardware raid gives better performance. Both of those are
> >>> "fakeraid".It won't perform any better than software raid.
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What can I use to benchmark the different raid set ups. I could do an all 
software raid trial and then an all hardware raid set up, (fresh install each 
time) and find out which is the best for my set up. Bear in mind I still 
think of myself as a Linux newbie (and a CentOS virgin), but keen to learn 
and the best way of learning is to roll up my sleeves and get my hands dirty.

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Re: [CentOS] vmware 1.0.4 lock up on install

[Tru Huynh]

On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 05:29:52PM -0400, Von Landfried wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks again for the links, these will be useful.
> 
Hi,

I am currently uploading the latest versions.
I had to delete the former ones (disk space issue
on the server).

Cheers,

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[CentOS] mail server

[Mark Quitoriano]

Hi All,

what can you recommend for mail server. I'll be needing mail server with
tls,ssl and virtual domains with web ui management, im doing this for a
client of mine.

Thanks!

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Re: [CentOS] Formatting a large disk

[Peter Kjellstrom]

On Monday 24 September 2007, Rajeev R Veedu wrote:
...
> I got a Gparted live CD and tried to create a partition for 3tb but still
> the maximum size of partition I could create is 0.75gb.

Just using parted or gparted is not enough, you need to use a gpt, not a 
traditional "dos"-style, partition table.

Worth noting, you can't (easily) boot from a gpt drive...

/Peter


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Re: [CentOS] mail server

[Thomas Antony]

what can you recommend for mail server. I'll be needing mail server with 
tls,ssl and virtual domains with web ui management, im doing this for a 
client of mine.




Hi Mark,

I would recommed you postfix as MTA and dovecot for POP3 and IMAP.
The web ui management software depends on what features do you need.
On my next mail server i will install postfixadmin.

Here is a good howto for courier-imapd and dovecot.
http://postfix.wiki.xs4all.nl/index.php?title=Virtual_Users_and_Domains_with_Courier-IMAP_and_MySQL

Thomas



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Re: [CentOS] Re: CentOS 4.5 system doesn't boot after installing latest updates

[Alfred von Campe]

Out of interest, is this something that is always required when  
upgrading Grub?


i.e. should one always manually run "grub-install" /dev/XXX" after  
doing so?


No, it shouldn't.  But in my case, I didn't "upgrade grub".  I simply  
did a "yum update" which installed, among other things, a new kernel,  
so a reboot was needed.  And when I rebooted, grub wouldn't start.   
So I booted into rescue mode from the CentOS CD #1, and did a "rpm -e  
grub kernel" followed by "yum install grub kernel".  This did not fix  
the problem.  I had to boot into rescue mode again and do a "grub- 
install /dev/sda".  The big question remains, what happened on my  
system that corrupted the MBR.  I could have been anything at all  
since the last time I rebooted (about a month ago) and not  
necessarily the "yum update".


Alfred

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Re: [CentOS] mail server

[Tom Brown]

what can you recommend for mail server. I'll be needing mail server 
with tls,ssl and virtual domains with web ui management, im doing this 
for a client of mine.


i have been using this for about 3 years now

http://www.techie.org/TNMailServer/TNMailServer.php

its great and has a gui front end for adding domains etc.

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[CentOS] Samba and TCPWrappers

[Bob Chiodini]

Good Morning,

I have a Centos 4.5 (x86_64) server running samba to share data with 
windows users.  We've been going through a security audit and the 
following log entries were noted:


[2007/09/24 09:37:29, 0] rpc_server/srv_util.c:get_alias_user_groups(206)

 get_alias_user_groups: gid of user bendew doesn't exist. Check your 
/etc/passwd and /etc/group files

[2007/09/24 09:37:29, 1] rpc_server/srv_util.c:get_domain_user_groups(298)

 get_domain_user_groups: primary gid of user [nobody] is not a Domain group !

 get_domain_user_groups: You should fix it, NT doesn't like that

[2007/09/24 09:37:29, 0] rpc_server/srv_util.c:get_alias_user_groups(206)

 get_alias_user_groups: gid of user nobody doesn't exist. Check your 
/etc/passwd and /etc/group files

[2007/09/24 09:37:29, 1] rpc_server/srv_util.c:get_domain_user_groups(298)

 get_domain_user_groups: primary gid of user [mark] is not a Domain group !

 get_domain_user_groups: You should fix it, NT doesn't like that

[2007/09/24 09:37:29, 0] rpc_server/srv_util.c:get_alias_user_groups(206)

 get_alias_user_groups: gid of user mark doesn't exist. Check your /etc/passwd 
and /etc/group files

I am using tcpwrappers and have blocked the subnets that should not 
access my server.  The IP of the auditor is within one of the blocked 
subnets, but still seems to be getting through.  Is samba integrated 
with tcpwrappers.  ldd smbd does not show a reference to libwrap, should it?


Bob...
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Re: [CentOS] NFS issue

[Count Of Dracula]

> Good answer but I can't agree on the NIS part.. NIS is plain text over the
> network and is deprecated for a long time. Sun is talking about dropping
> support, HP the same and even in the Linux camp there is some talk about
> taking NIS support out of the standard distributions.
> Add to that the fact that ldap is becoming easier and easier to set up, you
> should probably look that way...
>
> Peter.

I could not agree more.NIS must die.Use LDAP.There is no reason to use
NIS or NIS+ in the enterprise.Google will provide plently of good
result to integrate NFS with OpenLDAP and automount.

Joy
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Re: [CentOS] Zoneminder-1.22.3-6.fc7.i386.rpm has dependency errors on Centos5 server-how to fix?

[Akemi Yagi]

On 9/25/07, Dag Wieers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Look at:
>
> http://wiki.centos.org/PackageManagement/Yum/Priorities
> http://wiki.centos.org/Repositories/RPMForge
>
> If you have enabled the RPMforge repository, you can simply run:
>
> yum install perl-Device-SerialPort
>
> Kind regards,
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Always nice to get help from Dag :), but you can find which package to
install by the command:

yum provides "perl(Device::SerialPort)"

with the rpmforge repo enabled.  This will return (for example):

perl-Device-SerialPort.x86_641.003001-1.el5.rf  rpmforge
Matched from:
perl(Device::SerialPort) = 1.003

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Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 05:22:05 -0500
From: Johnny Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2007:0883 Important CentOS 4 i386 qt -
security update
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CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2007:0883

https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2007-0883.html  The following

updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the
mirrors:

i386:
qt-3.3.3-13.RHEL4.i386.rpm
qt-config-3.3.3-13.RHEL4.i386.rpm
qt-designer-3.3.3-13.RHEL4.i386.rpm
qt-devel-3.3.3-13.RHEL4.i386.rpm
qt-MySQL-3.3.3-13.RHEL4.i386.rpm
qt-ODBC-3.3.3-13.RHEL4.i386.rpm
qt-PostgreSQL-3.3.3-13.RHEL4.i386.rpm

src:
qt-3.3.3-13.RHEL4.src.rpm

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CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2007:0883

https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2007-0883.html  The following

updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the
mirrors:

x86_64:
qt-3.3.3-13.RHEL4.i386.rpm
qt-3.3.3-13.RHEL4.x86_64.rpm
qt-config-3.3.3-13.RHEL4.x86_64.rpm
qt-designer-3.3.3-13.RHEL4.x86_64.rpm
qt-devel-3.3.3-13.RHEL4.x86_64.rpm
qt-MySQL-3.3.3-13.RHEL4.x86_64.rpm
qt-ODBC-3.3.3-13.RHEL4.x86_64.rpm
qt-PostgreSQL-3.3.3-13.RHEL4.x86_64.rpm

src:
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Re: [CentOS] mail server

[Alain Spineux]

On 9/25/07, Mark Quitoriano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> what can you recommend for mail server. I'll be needing mail server with
> tls,ssl and virtual domains with web ui management, im doing this for a
> client of mine.


You should take a look at http://www.kolab.org

If you install it on centos, take a look in the wiki about the fedora
6 workaround

kolab install itself (6H of compile time on a 1.8Ghz P4) in /kolab
directory using its own pagaging system (Openpkg) that work the same
on all *nix platform.

Regards
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> Thanks!
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Re: [CentOS] /boot partition or not on C5

[Alain Spineux]

Do you have multiple disk ?
Can you search on all your disk for grub's files ?

On 9/25/07, mark pryor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hello,
>
> the last 3 times I installed C5, the MBR was unchanged and nothing was
> written into /boot/grub except splash.xbm.gz
>
> there were no stage* files, nor a menu.lst
> I know how to fix that.
>
> Would I have better luck using a partition mounted as /boot?
> Anyone succeded with Grub that way? I prefer not having to do surgery to get
> C5 to boot :)
>
> --
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> New Packages for C5
> -
> dkms-et131x-1.2.2-el5.noarch.rpm  (gigabit ethernet driver)
> http://www.tlviewer.org/c5repo/web/agere
>
> kchm-el5   (CHM client with io-slave)
> http://www.tlviewer.org/c5repo/kde/
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>  Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search.
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Re: [CentOS] mail server

[CentOS List]

what can you recommend for mail server. I'll be needing mail server with 
tls,ssl and virtual domains with web ui management, im doing this for a 
client of mine.


I have been using Qmail. http://www.qmailrocks.org/ This site has everything 
you will need. 


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Re: [CentOS] DNAT PREROUTING issue with iptables

[Alain Spineux]

Without all the rules, it's not easy to reply.
Your NAT rules looks fine but some filter are missing (I thing).  FW1
should also accept to FORWARD port 25

If you use rules including --state NEW, you must have other rules like

iptables -t filter -A INPUT/FORWARD -m state --state
ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT


The best way for you is to troubleshot you firewalls using tcpdump.
Open 2 terminal on each of your firewall, run
# tcpdump -n -i eth0 port 25
and
# tcpdump -n -i eth1 port 25

Then make some telnet on port 25 to understand what is happening.
Verify packet are going through your firewall and their are well NAT
and DNAT.


On 9/25/07, Indunil Jayasooriya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have an DNAT ISSUE with PREROUTING.
>
> This is my setup.
>
> I have 2 firewalls running iptables.
>
> Pls asume 1.2.3.4/29 is the internet interace of FIRST firewall.
> 2.3.4.5/29 is the internet interface of SECOND firewall. it has DMZ zone. in
> that DMZ zone, mail server runnig @ 192.168.100.3
>
> Now I want to DNAT port 25 of FISRT firewall ( i.e  -  its ip address -
> 1.2.3.4/29) to the internet ip address ( 2.3.4.5/29) of SECOND firewall.
> That firewal DNATs port 25 to mail server @ 192.168.100.3 in DMZ zone.
>
> These are rules I have added.
>
> FIRST firewall (its internet ip address - 1.2.3.4/29) I have addes below
> rule.
>
> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -i eth0 -d 1.2.3.4 --dport 25 -j DNAT
> --to-destination 2.3.4.5:25
>
> That should forward port 25 to SECOND firewall. in SECOND firewall, I have
> added 2 below rules.
>
> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -i eth0 -d 2.3.4.5 --dport 25 -j DNAT
> --to-destination 192.168.100.3:25
>
> iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp -d 192.168.100.3 --dport 25 -m state --state NEW
> -j ACCEPT
>
> Now, it should forward port 25  to  mail server  @  DMZ Zone.
>
> I think I have added these rules properly. But, It does not work.
>
> I checked from outside world . I telneted to port 25 of first firewaal.
> Then, It should forward to mail server @ DMZ zone.
> But, no responce.
>
> WHY is that?
>
> YOUR IDEAS?
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [CentOS] Zimbra vs. Scalix vs. et. al.

[Count Of Dracula]

On 9/1/07, John Hinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, I stumbled onto zimbra
>
> I have a Scallix system built, but still have some rough edges to try to
> smooth. Like the way it works with sendmail, no dnsbl's will work as
> sendmail sees all mail as coming from locohost (scalix). Still battling
> that one which is when I ran across Zimbra.
>
> So, this made me start wondering.
>
> Are there other exchange server-like products out there?
>
> Has anyone dealt with Scalix and Zimbra (or another from the question
> above) and would you care to post pros and cons to each?
>
> Some of the cons to me with Scalix.
>
> It uses it's own directory structure which is non-sensical to any admin.
> Each seems to be assigned on a numbering system.. finding who has what
> where is not fun and I fear will be a nightmare in the future. Sendmail
> milters work fine to a point, but there is the limit of filtering using
> dnsbl's and it appears it will require setting up sendmail as the
> receiver, passing to scalix, passing back to sendmail, passing back to
> scalix and the user mail boxes... adding an extra loop.
>
> Shared folder are nice.. shared calendars are pretty good although I
> don't see a way to sort by user are even really see immediately for
> which user the event exists. You can drag and drop from Outlook IMAP a
> file directly to the server, but internally we don't use outlook... but
> for other clients this could be nice.
>
> So, how are those Zimbra installs going and what's the scoop?
>
> Thanks,
> John Hinton


To add my bones in the fire also have a look at opengroupware.

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Re: [CentOS] parted - is there a problem

[Alain Spineux]

On 9/25/07, Gregory P. Ennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Everyone,
>
> I recently added a 300gig Seagate sata drive on a Centos 5.0 and have a
> couple of questions.
>
> The drive was recognized with the device as /dev/sdc.  The system came
> with some SCCI drives that are labeled as /dev/sda and /dev/sdb.  I was
> surprised that the sata drives used sdc.  Are the sata drives considered
> more like SCCI or IDE drives?

Yes ATA drive look more like SCSI than old IDE

>
> The real problem occurred when I tried to partition the drive with
> parted.  I used he command mkpart to form one partition of 300 gigs
> which created /dev/sdc1, and then after 'quiting' parted used mkfs.ext3
> to create a file system. Everything went as expected with the ability to
> mount the file system and copy files into it.  However, /dev/sdc1
> disappeared when I rebooted.  After the reboot /dev/sdc1 was missing and
> CentOs obviously could not recognize the partition.  The error is
> probably related to my lack of experience with parted so I tried it 2
> other times with the same results.
>
> I finally gave up and used fdisk which  has worked without a problem.
>
> By way of observation I could not find a 'write to disk' command in
> parted like what is present in fdisk.  Is there a problem with parted or
> I am just lacking in knowledge of some of the parted commands.
> Certainly could not find any write like statements in the man pages or
> the info pages.
>
> Are there others of you that use parted?  What did I do wrong?

I dont see anything wrong.
maybe sync will help the OS to write the new partition on the disk.
# sync

also You could use partprob to reread partition from disk and verify
chnages are flushed on disk.


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Re: [CentOS] mail server

[Steve Huff]

On Sep 25, 2007, at 8:16 AM, CentOS List wrote:



what can you recommend for mail server. I'll be needing mail server  
with tls,ssl and virtual domains with web ui management, im doing  
this for a client of mine.


I have been using Qmail. http://www.qmailrocks.org/ This site has  
everything you will need.


in this vein, i'd recommend Nick Hemmesch's QmailToaster (http:// 
www.qmailtoaster.com/); it's a turnkey qmail+vpopmail+ezmlm-idx  
solution that:


* is RPM-based (though you have to compile the RPMs yourself, to  
comply with djb's license)

* is extensively tested on CentOS
* stores its configuration in a MySQL database
* provides you with virtual domains, spam blacklisting and filtering,  
web-based administration, mailing list management, and a host of  
other features

* is actively developed and supported

the QmailToaster is set up according to the qmailrocks guidelines;  
the packages just take some of the drudgery out of it.


-steve

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RE: [CentOS] NFS issue

[Ross S. W. Walker]

Peter Arremann wrote:
> 
> On Monday 24 September 2007, Steven Haigh wrote:
> > Quoting Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > NFS uses the user ID of the user (UID) for permissions. You 
> will need
> > to have the correct permissions on each system, and the correct
> > username associated with the same UID on each machine.
> >
> > If you are running multiple systems, I would suggest 
> looking into NIS.
> > This will allow you to create the accounts in NIS and have them use
> > the same details on each machine.
> 
> Good answer but I can't agree on the NIS part.. NIS is plain 
> text over the 
> network and is deprecated for a long time. Sun is talking 
> about dropping 
> support, HP the same and even in the Linux camp there is some 
> talk about 
> taking NIS support out of the standard distributions. 
> Add to that the fact that ldap is becoming easier and easier 
> to set up, you 
> should probably look that way...

NIS doesn't have to contain passwords, you can use Kerberos for
authentication and still use NIS for user information, if you are
worried about user names and uids going across in the clear you can
use NIS+ and TLS.

Improperly secured LDAP can have the same security issues as NIS.

I would use whichever method works best for you, NIS or LDAP. You will
find that a lot of the LDAP implementations are highly customized to
each site, so figuring out what to use and what not to use can be a
challenge, while NIS is pretty much standardized.

I would use Kerberos for passwords though irrespective of the choice
to use LDAP or NIS.

-Ross

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RE: [CentOS] 3Ware 9550SX and latency/system responsiveness

[Simon Banton]

At 13:35 -0400 24/9/07, Ross S. W. Walker wrote:

Ok, so here is the command I would use:


Thanks - here are the results (tried CentOS 4.5 and RHEL5, with tests 
on sdb when configured as both RAID 0 and as RAID 1):



Sequential reads:
disktest -B 4k -h 1 -I BD -K 4 -p l -P T -T 300 -r /dev/sdX


CentOS 4.5, RAID 0:
| 2007/09/25-14:26:58 | STAT  | 13944 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Total 
read throughput: 50249728.0B/s (47.92MB/s), IOPS 12268.0/s.

| 2007/09/25-14:26:58 | END   | 13944 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Test Done (Passed)

CentOS 4.5, RAID 1:
| 2007/09/25-14:20:06 | STAT  | 13807 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Total 
read throughput: 44994150.4B/s (42.91MB/s), IOPS 10984.9/s.

| 2007/09/25-14:20:06 | END   | 13807 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Test Done (Passed)

RHEL5, RAID 0:
| 2007/09/25-11:07:46 | STAT  | 2835 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Total read 
throughput: 2405171.2B/s (2.29MB/s), IOPS 587.2/s.

| 2007/09/25-11:07:46 | END   | 2835 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Test Done (Passed)

RHEL5, RAID 1:
| 2007/09/25-11:35:53 | STAT  | 3022 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Total read 
throughput: 2461696.0B/s (2.35MB/s), IOPS 601.0/s.

| 2007/09/25-11:35:53 | END   | 3022 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Test Done (Passed)


Sequential writes:
disktest -B 4k -h 1 -I BD -K 4 -p l -P T -T 300 -w /dev/sdX


CentOS 4.5, RAID 0:
| 2007/09/25-14:28:19 | STAT  | 13951 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Total 
write throughput: 66150946.1B/s (63.09MB/s), IOPS 16150.1/s.

| 2007/09/25-14:28:19 | END   | 13951 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Test Done (Passed)

CentOS 4.5, RAID 1:
| 2007/09/25-14:21:52 | STAT  | 13815 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Total 
write throughput: 53170039.5B/s (50.71MB/s), IOPS 12981.0/s.

| 2007/09/25-14:21:52 | END   | 13815 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Test Done (Passed)

RHEL5, RAID 0:
| 2007/09/25-11:13:44 | STAT  | 2850 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Total 
write throughput: 66031616.0B/s (62.97MB/s), IOPS 16121.0/s.

| 2007/09/25-11:13:44 | END   | 2850 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Test Done (Passed)

RHEL5, RAID 1:
| 2007/09/25-11:36:36 | STAT  | 3031 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Total 
write throughput: 56870229.3B/s (54.24MB/s), IOPS 13884.3/s.

| 2007/09/25-11:36:36 | END   | 3031 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Test Done (Passed)


Random reads:
disktest -B 4k -h 1 -I BD -K 4 -p r -P T -T 300 -r /dev/sdX


CentOS 4.5, RAID 0:
| 2007/09/25-14:28:59 | STAT  | 13958 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Total 
read throughput: 504217.6B/s (0.48MB/s), IOPS 123.1/s.

| 2007/09/25-14:28:59 | END   | 13958 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Test Done (Passed)

CentOS 4.5, RAID 1:
| 2007/09/25-14:23:14 | STAT  | 13822 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Total 
read throughput: 549570.2B/s (0.52MB/s), IOPS 134.2/s.

| 2007/09/25-14:23:14 | END   | 13822 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Test Done (Passed)

RHEL5, RAID 0:
| 2007/09/25-11:16:21 | STAT  | 2875 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Total read 
throughput: 273612.8B/s (0.26MB/s), IOPS 66.8/s.

| 2007/09/25-11:16:21 | END   | 2875 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Test Done (Passed)

RHEL5, RAID 1:
| 2007/09/25-11:39:20 | STAT  | 3042 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Total read 
throughput: 546816.0B/s (0.52MB/s), IOPS 133.5/s.

| 2007/09/25-11:39:20 | END   | 3042 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Test Done (Passed)


Random writes:
disktest -B 4k -h 1 -I BD -K 4 -p r -P T -T 300 -w /dev/sdX


CentOS 4.5, RAID 0:
| 2007/09/25-14:29:34 | STAT  | 13965 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Total 
write throughput: 1379532.8B/s (1.32MB/s), IOPS 336.8/s.

| 2007/09/25-14:29:34 | END   | 13965 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Test Done (Passed)

CentOS 4.5, RAID 1:
| 2007/09/25-14:24:15 | STAT  | 13829 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Total 
write throughput: 782199.5B/s (0.75MB/s), IOPS 191.0/s.

| 2007/09/25-14:24:15 | END   | 13829 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Test Done (Passed)

RHEL5, RAID 0:
| 2007/09/25-11:19:21 | STAT  | 2894 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Total 
write throughput: 1377894.4B/s (1.31MB/s), IOPS 336.4/s.

| 2007/09/25-11:19:21 | END   | 2894 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Test Done (Passed)

RHEL5 RAID 1:
| 2007/09/25-11:40:08 | STAT  | 3049 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Total 
write throughput: 798310.4B/s (0.76MB/s), IOPS 194.9/s.

| 2007/09/25-11:40:08 | END   | 3049 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Test Done (Passed)

I'm not sure what to make of it, mind you.

Cheers
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Re: [CentOS] NFS issue

[Dan]

Thanks for all the suggestions!  As this is for a simple home rollout  ldap
and NIS are a little over the top.  If it were a big picture item I would
definitely choose ldap.

I found in order for this to work I had to cp the /etc/passwd and /etc/group
to the local machine that is connecting to the NFS server share.

Again thanks for all the info!

Dan

On 9/25/07, Ross S. W. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Peter Arremann wrote:
> >
> > On Monday 24 September 2007, Steven Haigh wrote:
> > > Quoting Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > NFS uses the user ID of the user (UID) for permissions. You
> > will need
> > > to have the correct permissions on each system, and the correct
> > > username associated with the same UID on each machine.
> > >
> > > If you are running multiple systems, I would suggest
> > looking into NIS.
> > > This will allow you to create the accounts in NIS and have them use
> > > the same details on each machine.
> >
> > Good answer but I can't agree on the NIS part.. NIS is plain
> > text over the
> > network and is deprecated for a long time. Sun is talking
> > about dropping
> > support, HP the same and even in the Linux camp there is some
> > talk about
> > taking NIS support out of the standard distributions.
> > Add to that the fact that ldap is becoming easier and easier
> > to set up, you
> > should probably look that way...
>
> NIS doesn't have to contain passwords, you can use Kerberos for
> authentication and still use NIS for user information, if you are
> worried about user names and uids going across in the clear you can
> use NIS+ and TLS.
>
> Improperly secured LDAP can have the same security issues as NIS.
>
> I would use whichever method works best for you, NIS or LDAP. You will
> find that a lot of the LDAP implementations are highly customized to
> each site, so figuring out what to use and what not to use can be a
> challenge, while NIS is pretty much standardized.
>
> I would use Kerberos for passwords though irrespective of the choice
> to use LDAP or NIS.
>
> -Ross
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Re: [CentOS] Zimbra vs. Scalix vs. et. al.

[Patrick]

Hi John,

On Fri, 2007-08-31 at 16:27 -0400, John Hinton wrote:
> Well, I stumbled onto zimbra

I tried the demo a long time ago when it was first launched. Quite
impressive although it was painfully slow.

> I have a Scallix system built, but still have some rough edges to try to 
> smooth. Like the way it works with sendmail, no dnsbl's will work as 
> sendmail sees all mail as coming from locohost (scalix). Still battling 
> that one which is when I ran across Zimbra.

A while back I was investigating Scalix. There are documents on the
Scalix wiki that explain how to use postfix instead of sendmail:
http://www.scalix.com/wiki/index.php?title=HowTos/Postfix
http://www.scalix.com/wiki/index.php?title=HowTos/Complete_Postfix

> So, this made me start wondering.
> 
> Are there other exchange server-like products out there?

I'm only aware of the ones already mentioned by others. Obviously there
are commercial alternatives like Kerio.

> Has anyone dealt with Scalix and Zimbra (or another from the question 
> above) and would you care to post pros and cons to each?

Nope, I have no experience with either apart from looking at the Scalix
docs and the Zimbra demo.

> Some of the cons to me with Scalix.
> 
> It uses it's own directory structure which is non-sensical to any admin.
> Each seems to be assigned on a numbering system.. finding who has what 
> where is not fun and I fear will be a nightmare in the future. 

Doesn't sound very manageable. Here is a link to a doc explaining howto
use an already deployed openldap server:
http://www.scalix.com/wiki/index.php?title=HowTos/OpenLDAP_User_Management
Quess it should also be possible to use the Red Hat/Fedora Directory
Server and iirc there is also a doc about Scalix and Active Direcory.
See the howto section on the Scalix Wiki.

> Sendmail 
> milters work fine to a point, but there is the limit of filtering using 
> dnsbl's and it appears it will require setting up sendmail as the 
> receiver, passing to scalix, passing back to sendmail, passing back to 
> scalix and the user mail boxes... adding an extra loop.

See what you mean. I'd replace sendmail with postfix any day.

> Shared folder are nice.. shared calendars are pretty good although I 
> don't see a way to sort by user are even really see immediately for 
> which user the event exists.
>  You can drag and drop from Outlook IMAP a 
> file directly to the server, but internally we don't use outlook... but 
> for other clients this could be nice.
> 
> So, how are those Zimbra installs going and what's the scoop?

Found a few links comparing Zimbra, Scalix and Open-Xchange:

http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8722
http://www.dotmedia.co.za/web/opensource/mail-collaboration/
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/730879.html
(look for the post from MistaKa0s)
http://techrepublic.com.com/2415-1035_11-92919.html
http://downloads.techrepublic.com.com/abstract.aspx?docid=302289
http://www.open-xchange.org/cgi-bin/simpleforum.cgi?fid=01&topic_id=1143150870 
(look for the post from Paul Sterne and BoP)

Regards,
Patrick

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Re: [CentOS] vmware 1.0.4 lock up on install

[Tru Huynh]

On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 11:05:09AM +0200, Tru Huynh wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am currently uploading the latest versions.
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Re: [CentOS] vmware 1.0.4 lock up on install

[Akemi Yagi]

On 9/25/07, Tru Huynh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 11:05:09AM +0200, Tru Huynh wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am currently uploading the latest versions.
> done
>
> Tru

Thanks, Tru, for all the hard work.

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Re: [CentOS] Re: Central file server advice please

[Mark Foster]

John Bowden wrote:
What can I use to benchmark the different raid set ups. I could do an all 
software raid trial and then an all hardware raid set up, (fresh install each 
time) and find out which is the best for my set up. Bear in mind I still 
think of myself as a Linux newbie (and a CentOS virgin), but keen to learn 
and the best way of learning is to roll up my sleeves and get my hands dirty.
  
I recommend bonnie++ and spew, both of which are available in the 
rpmforge repo.


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RE: [CentOS] 3Ware 9550SX and latency/system responsiveness

[Ross S. W. Walker]

Simon Banton wrote:
> 
> At 13:35 -0400 24/9/07, Ross S. W. Walker wrote:
> >Ok, so here is the command I would use:
> 
> Thanks - here are the results (tried CentOS 4.5 and RHEL5, with tests 
> on sdb when configured as both RAID 0 and as RAID 1):
> 
> >Sequential reads:
> >disktest -B 4k -h 1 -I BD -K 4 -p l -P T -T 300 -r /dev/sdX
> 
> CentOS 4.5, RAID 0:
> | 2007/09/25-14:26:58 | STAT  | 13944 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Total 
> read throughput: 50249728.0B/s (47.92MB/s), IOPS 12268.0/s.
> | 2007/09/25-14:26:58 | END   | 13944 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | 
> Test Done (Passed)

Ok, this is a 2 disk RAID0? If so then this is ok, not the fastest
config (60MB/s for fast drives) but mid-level SATA performance.

> CentOS 4.5, RAID 1:
> | 2007/09/25-14:20:06 | STAT  | 13807 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Total 
> read throughput: 44994150.4B/s (42.91MB/s), IOPS 10984.9/s.
> | 2007/09/25-14:20:06 | END   | 13807 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | 
> Test Done (Passed)

Statisically equivalent to RAID0, which is a good sign, as it means the
3ware is doing striped reads off a RAID1.

> RHEL5, RAID 0:
> | 2007/09/25-11:07:46 | STAT  | 2835 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Total read 
> throughput: 2405171.2B/s (2.29MB/s), IOPS 587.2/s.
> | 2007/09/25-11:07:46 | END   | 2835 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | 
> Test Done (Passed)

Ok there is a problem here with the driver on RHEL5, are you running
the latest version off of 3ware's site?

Can you send the output of a modinfo ?

> RHEL5, RAID 1:
> | 2007/09/25-11:35:53 | STAT  | 3022 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Total read 
> throughput: 2461696.0B/s (2.35MB/s), IOPS 601.0/s.
> | 2007/09/25-11:35:53 | END   | 3022 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | 
> Test Done (Passed)

Same bad result here too... at least it's consistently bad, definitely
points to a bad driver.

> >Sequential writes:
> >disktest -B 4k -h 1 -I BD -K 4 -p l -P T -T 300 -w /dev/sdX
> 
> CentOS 4.5, RAID 0:
> | 2007/09/25-14:28:19 | STAT  | 13951 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Total 
> write throughput: 66150946.1B/s (63.09MB/s), IOPS 16150.1/s.
> | 2007/09/25-14:28:19 | END   | 13951 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | 
> Test Done (Passed)

Good write performance here, the BBU cache is definitely helping.

> CentOS 4.5, RAID 1:
> | 2007/09/25-14:21:52 | STAT  | 13815 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Total 
> write throughput: 53170039.5B/s (50.71MB/s), IOPS 12981.0/s.
> | 2007/09/25-14:21:52 | END   | 13815 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | 
> Test Done (Passed)

Also good write performance here with the BBU cache, RAID1 is
going to be slower by nature as it writes twice for each write,
but the BBU cache is minimizing the hurt.

> RHEL5, RAID 0:
> | 2007/09/25-11:13:44 | STAT  | 2850 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Total 
> write throughput: 66031616.0B/s (62.97MB/s), IOPS 16121.0/s.
> | 2007/09/25-11:13:44 | END   | 2850 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | 
> Test Done (Passed)

Write performance on RHEL 5 doesn't seem to be affected here,
maybe it's only read performance, maybe the BBU cache is hiding
the problem.

> RHEL5, RAID 1:
> | 2007/09/25-11:36:36 | STAT  | 3031 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Total 
> write throughput: 56870229.3B/s (54.24MB/s), IOPS 13884.3/s.
> | 2007/09/25-11:36:36 | END   | 3031 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | 
> Test Done (Passed)

Same thing here, good write performance.

> >Random reads:
> >disktest -B 4k -h 1 -I BD -K 4 -p r -P T -T 300 -r /dev/sdX
> 
> CentOS 4.5, RAID 0:
> | 2007/09/25-14:28:59 | STAT  | 13958 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Total 
> read throughput: 504217.6B/s (0.48MB/s), IOPS 123.1/s.
> | 2007/09/25-14:28:59 | END   | 13958 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | 
> Test Done (Passed)

And here is where the difference between a 15K drive and a 7200
RPM drive appears, though with RAID0 one would expect to see
around 1MB, what chunk size does it use 64K?

> CentOS 4.5, RAID 1:
> | 2007/09/25-14:23:14 | STAT  | 13822 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Total 
> read throughput: 549570.2B/s (0.52MB/s), IOPS 134.2/s.
> | 2007/09/25-14:23:14 | END   | 13822 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | 
> Test Done (Passed)

This is the correct performance of a RAID1 for 7200 RPM drives.

> RHEL5, RAID 0:
> | 2007/09/25-11:16:21 | STAT  | 2875 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Total read 
> throughput: 273612.8B/s (0.26MB/s), IOPS 66.8/s.
> | 2007/09/25-11:16:21 | END   | 2875 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | 
> Test Done (Passed)

This also shows a serious performance degradation here, the numbers
should be similar to RHEL 4.5 numbers.

> RHEL5, RAID 1:
> | 2007/09/25-11:39:20 | STAT  | 3042 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | Total read 
> throughput: 546816.0B/s (0.52MB/s), IOPS 133.5/s.
> | 2007/09/25-11:39:20 | END   | 3042 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | 
> Test Done (Passed)

This is an oddity, and is inconsistent. I would have expected this
number to be low too, but it is showing normal throughput for this
configuration. I wouldn't put any faith in this and if you ran it
3 times in a row it will probably post slow numbers 2 out of the 3
times.

> >Random writes:
> >disktest -B 4k -h 1 -I BD -K 4 -p r -P T -T 300 -w /dev/sdX
> 
> CentOS 4.5, RAID 0:
> | 2007/09/25-14:29:34 | STAT  | 13965 | v1.2.8 | /dev/sdb | To

Re: [CentOS] Re: CentOS 4.5 system doesn't boot after installing latest updates

[Phil Schaffner]

On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 10:08 +0930, Michael Kratz wrote:
> On 25/09/2007, at 6:41 AM, Scott Silva wrote:
> 
> > Alfred von Campe spake the following on 9/24/2007 1:59 PM:
> >>> Today I decided to install all the latest updates (including the  
> >>> -06 kernel).  The "yum update" seems to have run just fine (no  
> >>> errors), but when I rebooted the system it just sits there with  
> >>> the word "GRUB" in the upper left hand corner.  I booted from the  
> >>> CentOS 4.5 install CD into rescue mode, did a "chroot /mnt/ 
> >>> sysimage" and reinstalled grub and the latest kernel, but it  
> >>> still gets stuck in the same place.  It's not that I can't boot  
> >>> the new kernel; I can't even get to the grub screen!

I have seen this behavior before when the BIOS device order does not
match what is seen by the running system.  Seems that in such cases,
running GRUB from the boot media also sees different device/controller
ordering than the running system and can lead to GRUB being confused
about where to find the stage1 part of the GRUB code.  Either changing
the device order in the BIOS settings (if that is an option) or changing
the order controllers are found in /etc/modprobe.conf seems to help.  In
any case, check /boot/grub/device.map and assure that it matches what
GRUB sees at boot time.  Can check this with the GRUB shell "find"
command.

> >> I'll answer my own question.  In addition to re-installing grub, a  
> >> "grub-install /dev/sda" was required to get the system to boot.  I  
> >> thought that reinstalling grub via yum/rpm would take care of it,  
> >> but apparently it didn't.  Lesson learned, panic averted.
> >> Alfred
> > That is what most of us probably thought you meant when you said  
> > you re-installed grub.

The reinstall of GRUB seems to have been a noop in this case.  Helping
the boot-loader part of GRUB find the /boot/grub/stageX files by running
grub-install was the fix.  What is still open to question is what
changed on the system to make GRUB lose its pointer to the /boot/grub
directory.  Usually takes a change in BIOS settings or actual hardware
configuration to change the device order.

> Out of interest, is this something that is always required when  
> upgrading Grub?
> 
> i.e. should one always manually run "grub-install" /dev/XXX" after  
> doing so?

AFAIK that should not be necessary.

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[CentOS] Re: Zoneminder-1.22.3-6.fc7.i386.rpm has dependency errors on Centos5 server-how to fix?

[Karanbir Singh]

umair shakil wrote:
Well, i havenot faced such kind of issues. Its about months i am running 
applications

and their performance also seems to be good enough.


cpan isnt going to satisfy rpm depends, so isnt really going to help at all.

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Re: [CentOS] /boot partition or not on C5

[Phil Schaffner]

On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 14:13 +0200, Alain Spineux wrote:
> Do you have multiple disk ?
> Can you search on all your disk for grub's files ?
> 
> On 9/25/07, mark pryor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > hello,
> >
> > the last 3 times I installed C5, the MBR was unchanged and nothing was
> > written into /boot/grub except splash.xbm.gz
> >
> > there were no stage* files, nor a menu.lst
> > I know how to fix that.
> >
> > Would I have better luck using a partition mounted as /boot?
> > Anyone succeded with Grub that way? I prefer not having to do surgery to get
> > C5 to boot :)

I remember having the nearly-empty /boot/grub directory before but
memory fails me as to the exact circumstances.

Have installed C5 with/without a /boot partition, but having a /boot
seems to be the safer bet.  If / is LVM a /boot is required as GRUB
doesn't seem to be able to deal with LVM - thus the "standard"
configuration one gets with a default install/partitioning.  (Following
the link within the link below may bring back memories of some very
extended threads for some on the list.  :-)

http://www.silug.org/lists/silug-discuss/200412/msg00104.html

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Re: [CentOS] NFS issue

[James A. Peltier]

Peter Arremann wrote:

On Monday 24 September 2007, Steven Haigh wrote:
  

Quoting Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
NFS uses the user ID of the user (UID) for permissions. You will need
to have the correct permissions on each system, and the correct
username associated with the same UID on each machine.

If you are running multiple systems, I would suggest looking into NIS.
This will allow you to create the accounts in NIS and have them use
the same details on each machine.



Good answer but I can't agree on the NIS part.. NIS is plain text over the 
network and is deprecated for a long time. Sun is talking about dropping 
support, HP the same and even in the Linux camp there is some talk about 
taking NIS support out of the standard distributions. 
Add to that the fact that ldap is becoming easier and easier to set up, you 
should probably look that way...


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411, etc that you should investigate.  RHEL 5 includes RedHat Directory 
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Re: [CentOS] /boot partition or not on C5

[James A. Peltier]

mark pryor wrote:

hello,

the last 3 times I installed C5, the MBR was unchanged and nothing was 
written into /boot/grub except splash.xbm.gz


there were no stage* files, nor a menu.lst
I know how to fix that.

Would I have better luck using a partition mounted as /boot?
Anyone succeded with Grub that way? I prefer not having to do surgery 
to get C5 to boot :)


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Re: [CentOS] /boot partition or not on C5

[Bart Schaefer]

On 9/25/07, Phil Schaffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Have installed C5 with/without a /boot partition, but having a /boot
> seems to be the safer bet.  If / is LVM a /boot is required as GRUB
> doesn't seem to be able to deal with LVM

My one experience with installing CentOS 5 with / on a USB drive is
that I had to put /boot on the "regular" IDE drive.  That might be
because I wanted to dual-boot to Windows XP, though.
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Re: [CentOS] Re: CentOS 4.5 system doesn't boot after installing latest updates

[James A. Peltier]

Phil Schaffner wrote:



I have seen this behavior before when the BIOS device order does not
match what is seen by the running system.  Seems that in such cases,
running GRUB from the boot media also sees different device/controller
ordering than the running system and can lead to GRUB being confused
about where to find the stage1 part of the GRUB code.  Either changing
the device order in the BIOS settings (if that is an option) or changing
the order controllers are found in /etc/modprobe.conf seems to help.  In
any case, check /boot/grub/device.map and assure that it matches what
GRUB sees at boot time.  Can check this with the GRUB shell "find"
command.
  




It's interesting that you mention this as it jogged my memory to a case 
that happened to me when I tried Fedora 8 recently.  Since my system is 
quite a hodgepodge of drives when I booted F8, it detected the drives in 
an odd order.  The OS installed fine but wouldn't boot afterwards.  Upon 
booting into rescue mode I was able to make adjustments to the device 
map to get it to alter the way the system booted to match the way F8 saw 
it at install.  It was very hit and miss and I just attributed it to 
being a beta.  Anyways, my suggestion is to check all the drives in your 
system for said files as mentioned.  If they are there, but not where 
grub is looking for you may have to make changes.

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RE: [CentOS] mail server

[Robert - elists]

> 
> I have been using Qmail. http://www.qmailrocks.org/ This site has
> everything
> you will need.
> 

Maybe a little too general and/or enthusiastic

;->

Qmailrocks has not been maintained for about 1 to 2 years

If you use qmailrocks.org, you must also consult http://qmail.jms1.net and
several other places or you will waste a lot of your time

This is not a two second mail server although once fully understood and
properly implemented it is one of several good choices.

You should be a solid linux or unicie administrator before you even consider
doing it.

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Re: [CentOS] Re: Zoneminder-1.22.3-6.fc7.i386.rpm has dependency errors on Centos5 server-how to fix?

[Jim Perrin]

On 9/25/07, Karanbir Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> umair shakil wrote:
> > Well, i havenot faced such kind of issues. Its about months i am running
> > applications
> > and their performance also seems to be good enough.
>
> cpan isnt going to satisfy rpm depends, so isnt really going to help at all.

But after you use cpan you can use --force with rpm to install it..
right? That's safe isn't it?

I should start writing down a 'bad admins 101' guide


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RE: [CentOS] NFS issue

[Ross S. W. Walker]

James A. Peltier wrote:
> 
> Peter Arremann wrote:
> > On Monday 24 September 2007, Steven Haigh wrote:
> >   
> >> Quoting Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> NFS uses the user ID of the user (UID) for permissions. 
> You will need
> >> to have the correct permissions on each system, and the correct
> >> username associated with the same UID on each machine.
> >>
> >> If you are running multiple systems, I would suggest 
> looking into NIS.
> >> This will allow you to create the accounts in NIS and have them use
> >> the same details on each machine.
> >> 
> >
> > Good answer but I can't agree on the NIS part.. NIS is 
> plain text over the 
> > network and is deprecated for a long time. Sun is talking 
> about dropping 
> > support, HP the same and even in the Linux camp there is 
> some talk about 
> > taking NIS support out of the standard distributions. 
> > Add to that the fact that ldap is becoming easier and 
> easier to set up, you 
> > should probably look that way...
> >
> > Peter.
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> There are many alternatives to NIS that are more secure, 
> Kerberos, LDAP, 
> 411, etc that you should investigate.  RHEL 5 includes RedHat 
> Directory 
> Server (IIRC) which makes it easy to setup a LDAP server and 
> administer it.

Kerberos only does authentication and not authorization, so it
only provides 1/2 (or 1/3) of the AAA puzzle. You still need
some authorization service such as LDAP or NIS or 411 to provide
the authorization information and it is not secure to house or
provide authentication information in NIS or LDAP or 411, though
a lot of people use LDAP to house Heimdal Kerberos secrets it
is not considered a fully secure implementation.

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Re: [CentOS] Re: Zoneminder-1.22.3-6.fc7.i386.rpm has dependency errors on Centos5 server-how to fix?

[Steven Vishoot]

--- Jim Perrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 9/25/07, Karanbir Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > umair shakil wrote:
> > > Well, i havenot faced such kind of issues. Its
> about months i am running
> > > applications
> > > and their performance also seems to be good
> enough.
> >
> > cpan isnt going to satisfy rpm depends, so isnt
> really going to help at all.
> 
> But after you use cpan you can use --force with rpm
> to install it..
> right? That's safe isn't it?
> 
> I should start writing down a 'bad admins 101'
> guide
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Re: [CentOS] Re: Zoneminder-1.22.3-6.fc7.i386.rpm has dependency errors on Centos5 server-how to fix?

[Akemi Yagi]

On 9/25/07, Jim Perrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 9/25/07, Karanbir Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > umair shakil wrote:
> > > Well, i havenot faced such kind of issues. Its about months i am running
> > > applications
> > > and their performance also seems to be good enough.
> >
> > cpan isnt going to satisfy rpm depends, so isnt really going to help at all.
>
> But after you use cpan you can use --force with rpm to install it..
> right? That's safe isn't it?
>
> I should start writing down a 'bad admins 101' guide

I can contribute to that guide - how about using csh as the default shell ?
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[CentOS] Re: parted - is there a problem

[Scott Silva]

on 9/24/2007 3:42 PM Gregory P. Ennis spake the following:

Everyone,

I recently added a 300gig Seagate sata drive on a Centos 5.0 and have a
couple of questions.

The drive was recognized with the device as /dev/sdc.  The system came
with some SCCI drives that are labeled as /dev/sda and /dev/sdb.  I was
surprised that the sata drives used sdc.  Are the sata drives considered
more like SCCI or IDE drives?  


The real problem occurred when I tried to partition the drive with
parted.  I used he command mkpart to form one partition of 300 gigs
which created /dev/sdc1, and then after 'quiting' parted used mkfs.ext3
to create a file system. Everything went as expected with the ability to
mount the file system and copy files into it.  However, /dev/sdc1
disappeared when I rebooted.  After the reboot /dev/sdc1 was missing and
CentOs obviously could not recognize the partition.  The error is
probably related to my lack of experience with parted so I tried it 2
other times with the same results.

I finally gave up and used fdisk which  has worked without a problem. 


By way of observation I could not find a 'write to disk' command in
parted like what is present in fdisk.  Is there a problem with parted or
I am just lacking in knowledge of some of the parted commands.
Certainly could not find any write like statements in the man pages or
the info pages.

Are there others of you that use parted?  What did I do wrong?

Greg Ennis

Do you remember what command you used to create the partition?
Should be something like mkpart primary ext2

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[CentOS] Re: Zoneminder-1.22.3-6.fc7.i386.rpm has dependency errors on Centos5 server-how to fix?

[Scott Silva]

on 9/25/2007 8:56 AM Jim Perrin spake the following:

On 9/25/07, Karanbir Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

umair shakil wrote:

Well, i havenot faced such kind of issues. Its about months i am running
applications
and their performance also seems to be good enough.

cpan isnt going to satisfy rpm depends, so isnt really going to help at all.


But after you use cpan you can use --force with rpm to install it..
right? That's safe isn't it?

I should start writing down a 'bad admins 101' guide



Sure Luke ... use the --force..
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[CentOS] Re: /boot partition or not on C5

[Scott Silva]

on 9/24/2007 10:29 PM mark pryor spake the following:

hello,

the last 3 times I installed C5, the MBR was unchanged and nothing was 
written into /boot/grub except splash.xbm.gz


there were no stage* files, nor a menu.lst
I know how to fix that.

Would I have better luck using a partition mounted as /boot?
Anyone succeded with Grub that way? I prefer not having to do surgery to 
get C5 to boot :)


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(mid 90's) that nothing used to boot on a partition over 1024 cylinders, not 
grub, not lilo. Once you find something that works, you tend to keep using it.

Call me old and stale!  ;-P


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[CentOS] Re: Samba and TCPWrappers

[Scott Silva]

on 9/25/2007 4:23 AM Bob Chiodini spake the following:

Good Morning,

I have a Centos 4.5 (x86_64) server running samba to share data with 
windows users.  We've been going through a security audit and the 
following log entries were noted:


[2007/09/24 09:37:29, 0] rpc_server/srv_util.c:get_alias_user_groups(206)

 get_alias_user_groups: gid of user bendew doesn't exist. Check your 
/etc/passwd and /etc/group files


[2007/09/24 09:37:29, 1] rpc_server/srv_util.c:get_domain_user_groups(298)

 get_domain_user_groups: primary gid of user [nobody] is not a Domain 
group !


 get_domain_user_groups: You should fix it, NT doesn't like that

[2007/09/24 09:37:29, 0] rpc_server/srv_util.c:get_alias_user_groups(206)

 get_alias_user_groups: gid of user nobody doesn't exist. Check your 
/etc/passwd and /etc/group files


[2007/09/24 09:37:29, 1] rpc_server/srv_util.c:get_domain_user_groups(298)

 get_domain_user_groups: primary gid of user [mark] is not a Domain group !

 get_domain_user_groups: You should fix it, NT doesn't like that

[2007/09/24 09:37:29, 0] rpc_server/srv_util.c:get_alias_user_groups(206)

 get_alias_user_groups: gid of user mark doesn't exist. Check your 
/etc/passwd and /etc/group files


I am using tcpwrappers and have blocked the subnets that should not 
access my server.  The IP of the auditor is within one of the blocked 
subnets, but still seems to be getting through.  Is samba integrated 
with tcpwrappers.  ldd smbd does not show a reference to libwrap, should 
it?


Bob...
I don't think it is. You set up which subnets samba listens to in its own 
config file, but you will still get some log chatter about the ignored addresses.


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[CentOS] mdadm problem.

[David Mackintosh]

So I'm trying to RAID-1 this system which has two identical disks
installed in it, and it isn't working for some reason.

I started by doing a CentOS-4 install on /dev/sda1 as root, and with
/dev/sda2 as my swap.

I finish the install, yum update, and then I want to make the mirrors.

I copy the partition table from one disk to the other:

# sfdisk -d /dev/sda | sfdisk /dev/sdb

I create my metadevices:

# mdadm -Cv -l1 -n2 /dev/md1 /dev/sdb1 missing
# mdadm -Cv -l1 -n2 /dev/md2 /dev/sdb2 missing

I create my filesystems:

# mkfs.ext3 /dev/md1
# mkswap /dev/md2

I change the /etc/fstab to use /dev/md1 for / and /dev/md2 for swap.

I change the /etc/grub.conf to use /dev/md1 for the root= parameter on my 
kernel.

I build myself a new initrd for the kernel I want to boot.

I copy the contents of / over to the one-armed mirror:

# cd /
# mnt /dev/md1 /mnt/md1
# tar cfpl - . | ( cd /mnt/md1 ; tar xfp -)
# umount /mnt/md1
# sync

I run grub just in case:

# grub
> device (hd0) /dev/sda
> root (hd0,0)
> setup (hd0)

I reboot, expecting that the system will find /dev/md1 and use it as
its root... but it doesn't.  Digging around in hobbled mode (changing
the root= parameter in grub to /dev/sda1 instead of /dev/md1) shows
that /dev/md1 doesn't get assembled, therefore it doesn't get mounted.

Can anyone tell me what I've done wrong?

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[CentOS] Re: mdadm problem.

[Scott Silva]

on 9/25/2007 9:44 AM David Mackintosh spake the following:

So I'm trying to RAID-1 this system which has two identical disks
installed in it, and it isn't working for some reason.

I started by doing a CentOS-4 install on /dev/sda1 as root, and with
/dev/sda2 as my swap.

I finish the install, yum update, and then I want to make the mirrors.

I copy the partition table from one disk to the other:

# sfdisk -d /dev/sda | sfdisk /dev/sdb

I create my metadevices:

# mdadm -Cv -l1 -n2 /dev/md1 /dev/sdb1 missing
# mdadm -Cv -l1 -n2 /dev/md2 /dev/sdb2 missing

I create my filesystems:

# mkfs.ext3 /dev/md1
# mkswap /dev/md2

I change the /etc/fstab to use /dev/md1 for / and /dev/md2 for swap.

I change the /etc/grub.conf to use /dev/md1 for the root= parameter on my 
kernel.

I build myself a new initrd for the kernel I want to boot.

I copy the contents of / over to the one-armed mirror:

# cd /
# mnt /dev/md1 /mnt/md1
# tar cfpl - . | ( cd /mnt/md1 ; tar xfp -)
# umount /mnt/md1
# sync

I run grub just in case:

# grub

device (hd0) /dev/sda
root (hd0,0)
setup (hd0)


I reboot, expecting that the system will find /dev/md1 and use it as
its root... but it doesn't.  Digging around in hobbled mode (changing
the root= parameter in grub to /dev/sda1 instead of /dev/md1) shows
that /dev/md1 doesn't get assembled, therefore it doesn't get mounted.

Can anyone tell me what I've done wrong?
The partitions need to be type fd (raid autodetect) to work properly on boot. 
It is much easier to set this up in the initial install.


You can migrate, but it takes a few more steps to be sucessful.
Look at the raid howto, I think it has all the steps to migrate.

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RE: [CentOS] 3Ware 9550SX and latency/system responsiveness

[Simon Banton]

At 10:36 -0400 25/9/07, Ross S. W. Walker wrote:

Post the modinfo  to the list just in case somebody
else knows of any issues with the version you are running.


This is from RHEL5 - it's the driver that comes built-in:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# modinfo 3w-9xxx
filename:   /lib/modules/2.6.18-8.el5/kernel/drivers/scsi/3w-9xxx.ko
version:2.26.02.007
license:GPL
description:3ware 9000 Storage Controller Linux Driver
author: AMCC
srcversion: 029473DD729D96D687985E4
alias:  pci:v13C1d1003sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v13C1d1002sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
depends:scsi_mod
vermagic:   2.6.18-8.el5 SMP mod_unload 686 REGPARM 4KSTACKS gcc-4.1

The overall responsiveness of the system under benchmarking when 
running RHEL5 is somewhat better than that when running CentOS 4.5.


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Re: [CentOS] Re: mdadm problem.

[David Mackintosh]

On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 09:56:34AM -0700, Scott Silva wrote:

> The partitions need to be type fd (raid autodetect) to work properly on 
> boot. It is much easier to set this up in the initial install.

/me slaps head
 
That's even in my notes, but I skipped it because I thought "I don't have
to mess around with fdisk any more because I can use the sfdisk trick!"

My own fault for going too fast.

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RE: [CentOS] 3Ware 9550SX and latency/system responsiveness

[Ross S. W. Walker]

Simon Banton wrote:
> 
> At 10:36 -0400 25/9/07, Ross S. W. Walker wrote:
> >Post the modinfo  to the list just in case somebody
> >else knows of any issues with the version you are running.
> 
> This is from RHEL5 - it's the driver that comes built-in:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# modinfo 3w-9xxx
> filename:   
> /lib/modules/2.6.18-8.el5/kernel/drivers/scsi/3w-9xxx.ko
> version:2.26.02.007
> license:GPL
> description:3ware 9000 Storage Controller Linux Driver
> author: AMCC
> srcversion: 029473DD729D96D687985E4
> alias:  pci:v13C1d1003sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
> alias:  pci:v13C1d1002sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
> depends:scsi_mod
> vermagic:   2.6.18-8.el5 SMP mod_unload 686 REGPARM 
> 4KSTACKS gcc-4.1
> 
> The overall responsiveness of the system under benchmarking when 
> running RHEL5 is somewhat better than that when running CentOS 4.5.

Off of 3ware's support site I was able to download and compile the
latest stable release which has this modinfo:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] driver]# modinfo 3w-9xxx.ko
filename:   3w-9xxx.ko
version:2.26.06.002-2.6.18
license:GPL
description:3ware 9000 Storage Controller Linux Driver
author: AMCC
srcversion: 7F428E7BA74EAFF0FF137E2
alias:  pci:v13C1d1004sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v13C1d1003sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:  pci:v13C1d1002sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
depends:scsi_mod
vermagic:   2.6.20-1.2320.fc5smp SMP mod_unload 686 4KSTACKS

I compiled it on a fc5 box, but that shouldn't matter.

As far as the "responsiveness" is concerned, the 2.6.18 kernel made
some substantial improvements to the "cfq" io scheduler that helped
with interactive user experience. If you are using the box as a
server though I would try the "deadline" or "noop" scheduler with
this card as you may see substantial performance improvements with
these schedulers and this card.

Try setting the io scheduler to "deadline" and re-run the benchmarks
to see what I mean.

-Ross

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[CentOS] Thermal/Heat

[Simon Jolle \"sjolle\"]

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Can you please say me what this output exactly mean? Anything in
relation to fans/cooling? What does "active" and "ok" mean? Which values
are healthy?

# acpi -tBSc
 Thermal 1: active[3], 50.0 degrees C
 Thermal 2: ok, 47.0 degrees C
 Thermal 3: ok, 45.0 degrees C
 Thermal 4: ok, 28.0 degrees C
 Thermal 5: ok, 35.0 degrees C

Didn't found any useful docs about this.

thanks

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Re: [CentOS] mdadm problem.

[Alain Spineux]

On 9/25/07, David Mackintosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I copy the contents of / over to the one-armed mirror:
>
> # cd /
> # mnt /dev/md1 /mnt/md1
> # tar cfpl - . | ( cd /mnt/md1 ; tar xfp -)

??? you made a copy of /mnt/md1 into /mnt/md1/mnt/md1 ???
use
# tar cfpl - --one-file-system .  | 
instead

> # umount /mnt/md1
> # sync
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[CentOS] Re: mdadm problem.

[Scott Silva]

on 9/25/2007 10:25 AM David Mackintosh spake the following:

On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 09:56:34AM -0700, Scott Silva wrote:

The partitions need to be type fd (raid autodetect) to work properly on 
boot. It is much easier to set this up in the initial install.


/me slaps head
 
That's even in my notes, but I skipped it because I thought "I don't have

to mess around with fdisk any more because I can use the sfdisk trick!"

My own fault for going too fast.

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[CentOS] Network routing

[Hapia IN]

Hi, guys!

We need to setup our both network device on centos-4.5 as follow:

eth0: IP: 192.168.1.0/24 GW 192.168.1.1

eth1: IP: 192.168.10.0/24 GW 192.168.10.1

We don't know how to create our setup files for both network (eth0,
eth1 and their routes)?

Help us, please.

Thx

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Re: [CentOS] Network routing

[Craig White]

On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 15:37 -0300, Hapia IN wrote:
> Hi, guys!
> 
> We need to setup our both network device on centos-4.5 as follow:
> 
> eth0: IP: 192.168.1.0/24 GW 192.168.1.1
> 
> eth1: IP: 192.168.10.0/24 GW 192.168.10.1
> 
> We don't know how to create our setup files for both network (eth0,
> eth1 and their routes)?

only 1 'default' gateway

put gateway address in /etc/sysconfig/network and make sure that there
are no gateway addresses in
any /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ethX

# cat /etc/sysconfig/network
NETWORKING=yes
NETWORKING_IPV6=yes
HOSTNAME=your_hostname.your_domain.your_tld
GATEWAY=192.168.1.254
GATEWAYDEV=eth0 #this is probably a good idea too

if you need more advanced routing, we need more details to be of help

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Re: [CentOS] Network routing

[Ken Price]

First, some light reading:
http://lartc.org/howto/

Secondly, take a look at how RedHat/CentOS uses network startup scripts:
http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-4-Manual/en-US/Reference_Guide/pt-network-services-reference.html

Thirdly, READ THIS ENTIRE DOCUMENT.  Seriously.  Not kidding.
/usr/share/doc/initscripts-7.93.29.EL/sysconfig.txt

... paying close attention to this section:
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/route-


You cannot configure a RedHat/CentOS box with more than one *default*  
route in it's basic networking configuration.  You can, however,  
create two custom routing tables, create different default routes on  
THOSE tables, then use "ip rule" and IPTABLES mangling to tell packets  
where to go.  See the above documents for reference.



Regards,
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Hi, guys!

We need to setup our both network device on centos-4.5 as follow:

eth0: IP: 192.168.1.0/24 GW 192.168.1.1

eth1: IP: 192.168.10.0/24 GW 192.168.10.1

We don't know how to create our setup files for both network (eth0,
eth1 and their routes)?





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[CentOS] MP3 plugin for XMMS media player - CentOS 4.4

[Andrew Allen]

Where can I find the best XMMS player plugin for MP3 files please,
compatible with CentOS 4.4?

Thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] MP3 plugin for XMMS media player - CentOS 4.4

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--- Andrew Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Where can I find the best XMMS player plugin for MP3
> files please,
> compatible with CentOS 4.4?
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> Thanks,
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I just did an install of CentOS 5.0 and got the
plugin's here

http://dag.wieers.com/rpm/

I suppose that 4.4 is covered, too.



  

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[CentOS] XMMS on CentOS 5

[Manuel E. Chavez Manzano]

I would like to know why CentOS doesn't have xmms.

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Re: [CentOS] MP3 plugin for XMMS media player - CentOS 4.4

[Andrew Allen]

On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 12:57 -0700, Barry Schiffman wrote:
> eers.com/r

Thanks Barry,
I've downloaded and installed mpg123 etc i386.rpm for rhel 4 (CentOS
4.4), but still can't play MP3 files - any idea what I have to do next
to get it working?

Thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] XMMS on CentOS 5

[Matthew Miller]

On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 04:43:04PM -0400, Manuel E. Chavez Manzano wrote:
> I would like to know why CentOS doesn't have xmms.

Because RHEL doesn't.


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[CentOS] CentOS-5 Hardware Probe

[James B. Byrne]

I installed CentOS-5 on a test machine, a P4 1.8 Ghz Compaq Evo D510
series.  This was a clean install onto a new disk drive and everything
went well.  After updating with YUM and installing Postgresql, Rails for
Ruby, Firefox-2 and Thunderbird I shutdown and restarted the system
several times without incident.

I then pulled the CD-ROM and replaced it with an LG-DVD DVD-RAM/RW device.
I also swapped the PS/2 Kb and mouse for USB versions. When I rebooted the
system I entered the bios setup and reconfigured for the new device.
However, subsequently, Centos bootup has now entered an endless loop. 
Pluse neither the USB nor the PS/2 kb seem to work after a certain point.

On Centos-4 I recall doing exactly the same thing and all that happened
was that Kudzu ran during the boot procedure, prompted for the
configuration changes and everything went on swimingly. I just verified
this behaviour by swapping in a CentOS-4.5 disk on this machine and Kudzu
came up, reported on all the config changes, accepted the responses and it
booted with the DVD and USB devices installed

What is happening in CentOS-5? Is there no hardware probe at startup?  Is
there some switch that I need to set?  I can boot from the CD-ROM on this
machine using the LG-DVD but not from the hard drive.  Switching back to
the original CD-ROM device did not alleviate the problem either so I am at
a loss as to what is happening.

As I am a digest subscriber the favour of a direct copy of any reply to
the list is requested.

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Re: [CentOS] MP3 plugin for XMMS media player - CentOS 4.4

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On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:44:37 +0100
Andrew Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> took out a #2 pencil and
scribbled:

> On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 12:57 -0700, Barry Schiffman wrote:
> > eers.com/r
> 
> Thanks Barry,
> I've downloaded and installed mpg123 etc i386.rpm for rhel 4
> (CentOS 4.4), but still can't play MP3 files - any idea what I
> have to do next to get it working?
> 
> Thanks,
> Andy

What you are looking for is xmms-mp3 from rpmforge. It is located
on that same site you were given before. Dag's site. You can also
add the rpmforge to your yum repo list to get access without havin'
to browse about. That's up to you and off topic though.

I do not recall if you need to actually enable the plugin within
xmms though. You can do so by right clicking the xmms main window
and left clicking "Options" and then Preferences. You'll be greeted
with a new window and you'll make note of the first tab "Audio I/O
Plugins". Select (click one time) MPEG Layer 1/2/3 Player 1.2.10
[libmpg123.so] The version number may be different for you. Click
the "Enable Plugin" check box or button. Click Okay and then you
should be good to go.

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Re: [CentOS] Re: CentOS 4.5 system doesn't boot after installing latest updates

[Alfred von Campe]

Anyways, my suggestion is to check all the drives in your system  
for said files as mentioned.  If they are there, but not where grub  
is looking for you may have to make changes.


My system started its life with one drive and CentOS 4.3, and has  
been "yum updated" and is now at CentOS 4.5.  I also added one  
additional drive to it over the last 18 months.  The only time it has  
failed to boot was when I accidentally initialized the /boot  
partition.  I believe this was an anomaly (something corrupted the  
MBR).  I will soon find out when I do the "yum update" to the other  
27 CentOS systems I manage if the update is indeed the culprit (I  
doubt it).


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Re: [CentOS] Re: parted - is there a problem

[Gregory P. Ennis]

On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 09:12 -0700, Scott Silva wrote:
> on 9/24/2007 3:42 PM Gregory P. Ennis spake the following:
> > Everyone,
> > 
> > I recently added a 300gig Seagate sata drive on a Centos 5.0 and have a
> > couple of questions.
> > 
> > The drive was recognized with the device as /dev/sdc.  The system came
> > with some SCCI drives that are labeled as /dev/sda and /dev/sdb.  I was
> > surprised that the sata drives used sdc.  Are the sata drives considered
> > more like SCCI or IDE drives?  
> > 
> > The real problem occurred when I tried to partition the drive with
> > parted.  I used he command mkpart to form one partition of 300 gigs
> > which created /dev/sdc1, and then after 'quiting' parted used mkfs.ext3
> > to create a file system. Everything went as expected with the ability to
> > mount the file system and copy files into it.  However, /dev/sdc1
> > disappeared when I rebooted.  After the reboot /dev/sdc1 was missing and
> > CentOs obviously could not recognize the partition.  The error is
> > probably related to my lack of experience with parted so I tried it 2
> > other times with the same results.
> > 
> > I finally gave up and used fdisk which  has worked without a problem. 
> > 
> > By way of observation I could not find a 'write to disk' command in
> > parted like what is present in fdisk.  Is there a problem with parted or
> > I am just lacking in knowledge of some of the parted commands.
> > Certainly could not find any write like statements in the man pages or
> > the info pages.
> > 
> > Are there others of you that use parted?  What did I do wrong?
> > 
> > Greg Ennis
> Do you remember what command you used to create the partition?
> Should be something like mkpart primary ext2

after entering parted in interactive mode I gave the command
"mkpart" this was followed other questions :

(parted) mkpart
Partition type?  primary/extended? primary
File system type?  [ext2]?
Start? 0
End? 300G  

When this is done /dev/sdc1 was created; it was mountable; and I could
copy files to it.  However when I rebooted /dev/sdc1 was absent and of
course nothing was mountable.

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Re: [CentOS] parted - is there a problem

[Gregory P. Ennis]

On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 15:02 +0200, Alain Spineux wrote:
> On 9/25/07, Gregory P. Ennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Everyone,
> >
> > I recently added a 300gig Seagate sata drive on a Centos 5.0 and have a
> > couple of questions.
> >
> > The drive was recognized with the device as /dev/sdc.  The system came
> > with some SCCI drives that are labeled as /dev/sda and /dev/sdb.  I was
> > surprised that the sata drives used sdc.  Are the sata drives considered
> > more like SCCI or IDE drives?
> 
> Yes ATA drive look more like SCSI than old IDE
> 
> >
> > The real problem occurred when I tried to partition the drive with
> > parted.  I used he command mkpart to form one partition of 300 gigs
> > which created /dev/sdc1, and then after 'quiting' parted used mkfs.ext3
> > to create a file system. Everything went as expected with the ability to
> > mount the file system and copy files into it.  However, /dev/sdc1
> > disappeared when I rebooted.  After the reboot /dev/sdc1 was missing and
> > CentOs obviously could not recognize the partition.  The error is
> > probably related to my lack of experience with parted so I tried it 2
> > other times with the same results.
> >
> > I finally gave up and used fdisk which  has worked without a problem.
> >
> > By way of observation I could not find a 'write to disk' command in
> > parted like what is present in fdisk.  Is there a problem with parted or
> > I am just lacking in knowledge of some of the parted commands.
> > Certainly could not find any write like statements in the man pages or
> > the info pages.
> >
> > Are there others of you that use parted?  What did I do wrong?
> 
> I dont see anything wrong.
> maybe sync will help the OS to write the new partition on the disk.
> # sync
> 
> also You could use partprob to reread partition from disk and verify
> chnages are flushed on disk.
> 
> 

Good thoughts !!!  I had no knowledge of 'sync' sounds like a real
possibility, but I am surprised that parted would need sync.
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[CentOS] Why glibc-profile doesn't show up in Centos 5 ???

[Robinson Tiemuqinke]

Hi,

 Anyone know what are the reasons behind that
glibc-profile packages doesn't come with Centos 5
distribution which has version 2.5 glibc? Some
colleagues around have been asking for the glibc
profiling functions to be available continuously... 

 I could change the glibc source RPM/spec file to
disable '--disable-profile' option and recompile the
core glibc packages. But I am not sure whether this is
the correct way. Nevertheless, the glibc-profile may
have a unknown strong reason not to show up in Centos
5.

 Please help. 

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[CentOS] hosting panel

[Michael Kress]

Hi there,

what's your favorite (OS) hosting panel for centos5 ?
What's most interesting for me is the usability by others i.e. users who 
don't know the tool very much, so it has to be very simple. Second is of 
course security.

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Re: [CentOS] hosting panel

[William Warren]

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Michael Kress wrote:

Hi there,

what's your favorite (OS) hosting panel for centos5 ?
What's most interesting for me is the usability by others i.e. users who 
don't know the tool very much, so it has to be very simple. Second is of 
course security.

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Re: [CentOS] hosting panel

[John Hinton]

William Warren wrote:

virtualmin pro

Michael Kress wrote:

Hi there,

what's your favorite (OS) hosting panel for centos5 ?
What's most interesting for me is the usability by others i.e. users 
who don't know the tool very much, so it has to be very simple. 
Second is of course security.

Greetings & TIA Michael



To me, unfortunately, Webmin, Virtualmin and Usermin are a bit too geeky 
for the Joe Average user. If you're talking about admin users, OK, but 
simple end users who can't even set up their email client... they can 
get into trouble very easily.


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Re: [CentOS] hosting panel

[gjgowey]

What those types of users need is either a simple curses driven menu (if you 
want to be elaborate and give them graphics that is) or maybe lynx set to start 
up at a local html page and all the href's are file:// with lynx set to autorun 
file://  if you're dealing with users logging in with X then use firefox 
instead of lynx.

Geoff
 
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From: John Hinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 19:44:01 
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Subject: Re: [CentOS] hosting panel


William Warren wrote:
> virtualmin pro
>
> Michael Kress wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> what's your favorite (OS) hosting panel for centos5 ?
>> What's most interesting for me is the usability by others i.e. users
>> who don't know the tool very much, so it has to be very simple.
>> Second is of course security.
>> Greetings & TIA Michael
>>
>
To me, unfortunately, Webmin, Virtualmin and Usermin are a bit too geeky
for the Joe Average user. If you're talking about admin users, OK, but
simple end users who can't even set up their email client... they can
get into trouble very easily.

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Re: [CentOS] hosting panel

[gjgowey]

Important note: I'm talking about users logging in via SSH to get to these 
menus and not via an external webpage.  

Geoff

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What those types of users need is either a simple curses driven menu (if you 
want to be elaborate and give them graphics that is) or maybe lynx set to start 
up at a local html page and all the href's are file:// with lynx set to autorun 
file://  if you're dealing with users logging in with X then use firefox 
instead of lynx.

Geoff
 
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Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 19:44:01 
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Subject: Re: [CentOS] hosting panel


William Warren wrote:
> virtualmin pro
>
> Michael Kress wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> what's your favorite (OS) hosting panel for centos5 ?
>> What's most interesting for me is the usability by others i.e. users
>> who don't know the tool very much, so it has to be very simple.
>> Second is of course security.
>> Greetings & TIA Michael
>>
>
To me, unfortunately, Webmin, Virtualmin and Usermin are a bit too geeky
for the Joe Average user. If you're talking about admin users, OK, but
simple end users who can't even set up their email client... they can
get into trouble very easily.

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Re: [CentOS] Why glibc-profile doesn't show up in Centos 5 ???

[Jim Perrin]

On 9/25/07, Robinson Tiemuqinke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>  Anyone know what are the reasons behind that
> glibc-profile packages doesn't come with Centos 5
> distribution which has version 2.5 glibc? Some
> colleagues around have been asking for the glibc
> profiling functions to be available continuously...
>
>  I could change the glibc source RPM/spec file to
> disable '--disable-profile' option and recompile the
> core glibc packages. But I am not sure whether this is
> the correct way. Nevertheless, the glibc-profile may
> have a unknown strong reason not to show up in Centos
> 5.

Mostly, because it's not in the upstream software that centos follows.
I'm not sure what reasons they may have for keeping it out of the OS.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS Plus PHP5 upgrade.

[Guillermo Garron]

On 9/24/07, David Mackintosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 01:25:21PM -0400, David Mackintosh wrote:
> > I have some users who have a 64-bit CentOS 4.x install (current),
> > which was installed with @Everything and then some annoying packages
> > strategically removed (mrtg, pegasus*, mailman...) and they have
> > decided they have a need for php5.
>
> So I browsed back through the previous day's CentOS list traffic, and
> I find an email that sounds suspiciously close to my problem, with
> advice to check out
>
>   http://wiki.centos.org/Repositories/CentOSPlus/CentOSWebStack
>
> So I have followed those recommendations about the
> yum-priorities-plugin and now I'm in a deeper hole than I was when I
> started:
>
> --> Finished Dependency Resolution
> Error: Missing Dependency: php = 4.3.9-3.22.9 is needed by package php-pear
> Error: Missing Dependency: perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.8.8) is needed by package 
> perl-DBD-Pg
> Error: Missing Dependency: perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.8.8) is needed by package 
> perl-DBD-MySQL
>
> If anyone has any advice about either situation I'd appreciate it but
> I may have to resort to uninstalling everything and starting again.

Check this out
http://www.go2linux.org/selectively-update-from-centos-plus-repository

but what I had to do, was to put the same priority to CentOSPlus, run

yum install perl

and then back the priority to 2 again, and then install the rest of
packages I needed.

let me know if that helps.

regards,

Guillermo
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Re: [CentOS] hosting panel

[Matt]

> what's your favorite (OS) hosting panel for centos5 ?
> What's most interesting for me is the usability by others i.e. users who
> don't know the tool very much, so it has to be very simple. Second is of
> course security.
> Greetings & TIA Michael

Directadmin.com

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Re: [CentOS] XMMS on CentOS 5

[Paul]

On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 16:52 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 04:43:04PM -0400, Manuel E. Chavez Manzano wrote:
> > I would like to know why CentOS doesn't have xmms.
> 
> Because RHEL doesn't.
> 

Because it uses the GTK 1.x for it's toolkit and it's not really
maintained anymore.  There is some work on XMMS2, but AFAIK it's not
even close to being done. BMP (Beep Media Player) is also an offshoot of
XMMS that was being updated to GTK2.

Fedora does not have it anymore in core ... it got shoved off to extras.
Other distros have dropped it also as it's gotten so out of date with
requirements for old libs.

I XMMS was a favorite of mine as I was an old WINAMP user, but I finally
gave up and use Totem or Rhythmbox instead.

Paul

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS Plus PHP5 upgrade.

[gjgowey]

I hate to say this, but when it comes to apache and php I find building them 
from the source on apache.org and php.net to be a lot less painful because of 
the dependency problems that seem to plague php.  The final straw was when 
Nessus said one of them was vulnerable and no updates were on the repositories. 
 Depending on how elaborate a web server you're planning to run (and mine is 
very elaborate) it might serve you well to not use yum for this.

Geoff

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Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:14:24 
To:"CentOS mailing list" 
Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS Plus PHP5 upgrade.


On 9/24/07, David Mackintosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 01:25:21PM -0400, David Mackintosh wrote:
> > I have some users who have a 64-bit CentOS 4.x install (current),
> > which was installed with @Everything and then some annoying packages
> > strategically removed (mrtg, pegasus*, mailman...) and they have
> > decided they have a need for php5.
>
> So I browsed back through the previous day's CentOS list traffic, and
> I find an email that sounds suspiciously close to my problem, with
> advice to check out
>
>   http://wiki.centos.org/Repositories/CentOSPlus/CentOSWebStack
>
> So I have followed those recommendations about the
> yum-priorities-plugin and now I'm in a deeper hole than I was when I
> started:
>
> --> Finished Dependency Resolution
> Error: Missing Dependency: php = 4.3.9-3.22.9 is needed by package php-pear
> Error: Missing Dependency: perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.8.8) is needed by package 
> perl-DBD-Pg
> Error: Missing Dependency: perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.8.8) is needed by package 
> perl-DBD-MySQL
>
> If anyone has any advice about either situation I'd appreciate it but
> I may have to resort to uninstalling everything and starting again.

Check this out
http://www.go2linux.org/selectively-update-from-centos-plus-repository

but what I had to do, was to put the same priority to CentOSPlus, run

yum install perl

and then back the priority to 2 again, and then install the rest of
packages I needed.

let me know if that helps.

regards,

Guillermo
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[CentOS] General question about PHP

[Wei Yu]

Hello,

Is that possible to disable running of PHP on certain directories?
I am running a server which provides personal homepage service. However, not
every user are familiar with security, some may upload some PHP scripts with
bugs/holes. I do not want them to be executed on the server.
I can enable the safe_mode, but I have some other PHP scripts which need
safe_mode to be disabled.
Any suggestions?

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Re: [CentOS] General question about PHP

[gjgowey]

This is just an off the cuff guess, but you can associate the .php file 
extension so that it's treated like .htm in those select directories.  You 
would have to do this in your httpd.conf and on a specific per directory basis 
or, if you're using virtual hosts, you can put the assignment in the config for 
the vhost that you want php disabled.

Geoff

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Hello, 
  
Is that possible to disable running of PHP on certain directories? 
I am running a server which provides personal homepage service. However, not 
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I can enable the safe_mode, but I have some other PHP scripts which need 
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Re: [CentOS] XMMS on CentOS 5

[jarmo]

Paul kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika keskiviikko, 26. syyskuuta 2007 
05:35):

> Fedora does not have it anymore in core ... it got shoved off to extras.
> Other distros have dropped it also as it's gotten so out of date with
> requirements for old libs.
>
> I XMMS was a favorite of mine as I was an old WINAMP user, but I finally
> gave up and use Totem or Rhythmbox instead.
>
> Paul

I have installed XMMS to centos 5 and it's working fine...
For nostalgy or some other reasons... Totem and Rythm... Per-
sonally don't like... Amarok yes, but as long XMMS works,
using that...

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Re: [CentOS] Network routing

[umair shakil]

Salam!!!

Dear the information you are giving is not enough. describe what do u
want

>From my understanding u have two LAN Cards with two different Subnets...
Now what do u want plz explain

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Umair Shakil
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> Hi, guys!
>
> We need to setup our both network device on centos-4.5 as follow:
>
> eth0: IP: 192.168.1.0/24 GW 192.168.1.1
>
> eth1: IP: 192.168.10.0/24 GW 192.168.10.1
>
> We don't know how to create our setup files for both network (eth0,
> eth1 and their routes)?
>
> Help us, please.
>
> Thx
>
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RE: [CentOS] General question about PHP

[Miskell, Craig]

> Hello,
>  
> Is that possible to disable running of PHP on certain directories?
> I am running a server which provides personal homepage 
> service. However, not every user are familiar with security, 
> some may upload some PHP scripts with bugs/holes. I do not 
> want them to be executed on the server.
> I can enable the safe_mode, but I have some other PHP scripts 
> which need safe_mode to be disabled.
> Any suggestions?
Yes.  In you httpd.conf, you can include:

php_flag engine off


Which disables php processing for the directory /var/www/sheep/html/tmp
.  You could probably just include 
php_flag engine off
In an .htaccess in the directory in question, assuming you've set
AllowOverride to an appropriate value, and don't mind the slight
performance hit of doing it that way. 

We use the former method to protect areas where users are permitted to
upload files to (mediawiki in this case), stopping a user uploading
something malicious which would then execute in the context of the
webserver

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Re: [CentOS] XMMS on CentOS 5

[umair shakil]

Dear,

Why not u go for xmms source package means tar.gz. i have installed and
used xmms once
when i used Redhat 9 as desktop.

I am suggesting u people to uses UBUNTO (www.ubunto.com) as your desktop.
Its apt-get
repository is almost have everything

Regards,

Umair Shakil
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> I would like to know why CentOS doesn't have xmms.
>
> --
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> Un esfuerzo total es una victoria completa".
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Re: [CentOS] XMMS on CentOS 5

[Manuel E. Chavez Manzano]

thanks for the advise but no, I use centos since ever, since I star
using linux, I had tried ubuntu and i don really like it.

and I have xmms from rpmforge repos
 I just want to know why it is not in CentOS 5
thanks anyway for all

El mié, 26-09-2007 a las 10:31 +0500, umair shakil escribió:
> Dear,
> 
> Why not u go for xmms source package means tar.gz. i have
> installed and used xmms once
> when i used Redhat 9 as desktop.
> 
> I am suggesting u people to uses UBUNTO (www.ubunto.com) as your
> desktop. Its apt-get
> repository is almost have everything
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Umair Shakil
> ETD
> 
> On 9/26/07, Manuel E. Chavez Manzano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would like to know why CentOS doesn't have xmms. 
> 
> --
> "Nuestra recompensa se encuentra en el esfuerzo y no en el
> resultado.
> Un esfuerzo total es una victoria completa".
> Mahatma Gandhi
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Re: [CentOS] XMMS on CentOS 5

[Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams]

On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 10:31 +0500, umair shakil wrote:
> I am suggesting u people to uses UBUNTO (www.ubunto.com) as your
> desktop. Its apt-get
> repository is almost have everything

Except ISV support, of course. You know, just in case running business
apps actually *matters*...

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