Re: [CentOS] running php4 and php5 parallel

[gjgowey]

If you do a manual build as mentioned below (not using the prebuilt rpm's) and 
use both php versions in CGI mode (not as apache modules) then it should be 
possible so long as the php4 is assigned to one directory and the php5 is 
assigned to another.

Geoff

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From: "umair shakil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:03:31 
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Subject: Re: [CentOS] running php4 and php5 parallel


Hi,

Let us suppose, you have PHP4 RPM installation, PHP5 source installation.
you type "php -v" you should get only one output like

PHP5, The PHP Group,

Let us start the apache, and put some php function in a file "phpinfo()" in 
index.php. you will get only PHP5(suppose). I am trying to explain that
your output is one (PHP4 or PHP5).

The question of running both in parallel seems to be difficult in this scenario.
It also says when u will get to know that which version is now u running 


Regards,

Umair Shakil
ETD


On 9/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]   <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  > wrote:Maybe if you custom build 
them from source giving each it's own directory using --prefix you can do it, 
but Umair might still be right about library conflicts.  Not including the 
libraries and binaries in any paths might solve the problem and execution still 
could happen via a shell script for each to append the proper path before 
launch, but this is all just guessing. 

Geoff

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From: "umair shakil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]  >

Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 09:26:25 
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Subject: Re: [CentOS] running php4 and php5 parallel


Dear Salam,

I have not used this thing yet, but i suppose not recommended, may be libraries 
confliction 
occur, some abnormal behaviour may arise.

Regards,

Umair Shakil
ETD



 On 9/20/07, Peter Peltonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]   
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: Is it possible to run 
php4 and php5 parallel in Centos4 somehow? If
the parallel php5 could be installed from rpm also that would be great
also.

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[CentOS] Re: CentOS5 Network Problems

[Tony Mountifield]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Joshua Baker-LePain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 at 5:04pm, semi linux wrote
> 
> > Wicked! that worked... How weird...  I'm going to have to look this up
> > and read about it... it seems weird that the kernel would have it on
> > by default if it's as common as it seems to me.
> >
> > Thanks a million!
> >
> > You don't happen to have any links of where you found this, do you?
> 
> Here's one:
> 
> http://lwn.net/Articles/92727/
> 
> Bottom line is that the behavior is a result of broken routers, and the 
> kernel leaves it enabled because it *should* work.

Would be interesting to know what make/model of router the original poster
is using, that exhibited this problem, and which firmware version.

Unless the problem is in his ISP

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Re: [CentOS] Central file server advice please

[gjgowey]

Exactly how much throughput are you realistically anticipating?  What 
connection are you going to use?  802.11 or 10/100 or gige?  And yes, the chips 
will pretty much always give you better performance with raid.

Geoff

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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:58:27 
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Subject: [CentOS] Central file server advice please


Hi List
I have a Gygabyte GA-7N400 PRO2 with a 2.6 mHz Athlon cpu. I want to set up a
central file storage for 2/3 users using 6/7 machines. A mixture of win2k, XP
and various Linux distros (my home network). It will be used to store files,
(docs, music and DVD ) for all of these machines, print server, (two
ink-jets), mail server and later on  a myth tv set up. Would SAMBA be the
best option for the file and print serving ?
The mother board has 2 X IDE channels, 2 X IDE channels with raid and 2 X SATA
raid channels, that's up to 10 hard drive devices. The IDE raid chip is a
GigaRaid IT8212F chipset. It supports raid 0 or raid 1 and raid 0 + 1 and
JBOD. The SATA raid is a Silicon Image Sil3512. It supports Raid 0 or 1.
Would I get better speed performance using the chips to manage the raid or
using software raid?
Oh and I will be using the CentOS 5 install dvd. Any advice from the list
would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance, John
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[CentOS] Central file server advice please

[John Bowden]

Hi List
I have a Gygabyte GA-7N400 PRO2 with a 2.6 mHz Athlon cpu. I want to set up a 
central file storage for 2/3 users using 6/7 machines. A mixture of win2k, XP 
and various Linux distros (my home network). It will be used to store files, 
(docs, music and DVD ) for all of these machines, print server, (two 
ink-jets), mail server and later on  a myth tv set up. Would SAMBA be the 
best option for the file and print serving ?
The mother board has 2 X IDE channels, 2 X IDE channels with raid and 2 X SATA 
raid channels, that's up to 10 hard drive devices. The IDE raid chip is a 
GigaRaid IT8212F chipset. It supports raid 0 or raid 1 and raid 0 + 1 and 
JBOD. The SATA raid is a Silicon Image Sil3512. It supports Raid 0 or 1. 
Would I get better speed performance using the chips to manage the raid or 
using software raid?
Oh and I will be using the CentOS 5 install dvd. Any advice from the list 
would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance, John
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Re: [CentOS] webmin

[Ralph Angenendt]

Ray Leventhal wrote:
> Hiep Nguyen wrote:
> > hi there, i just insalled centos 4.5 minimal, but want to use yum to
> > install webmin?  anybody know how??
> Webmin is available as
> 
> webmin-1.250-1.2.el4.rf.noarch.rpm

I really, really, really, really, really, really wouldn't recommend
installing that version, as it is really, really, really, really,
really old.

On the other hand I wouldn't recommend installing webmin anyway - but if
you have to take the rpm from webmin.com (if that is installable on
CentOS, no idea there).

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] Central file server advice please

[Jim Wildman]

On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, John Bowden wrote:


(docs, music and DVD ) for all of these machines, print server, (two
ink-jets), mail server and later on  a myth tv set up. Would SAMBA be the
best option for the file and print serving ?


You realize the mythtv setup (if this machine is going to be the
'backend') really should be on a separate box?


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Re: [CentOS] Disk De-Fraging in Linux

[Stephen Harris]

On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 01:48:07AM -0400, Peter Arremann wrote:
> the filesystem doesn't get that full and if you really want to defrag, copy 
> the data off and back on. Its the best way to do it.

This is, in fact, the historically correct answer as well.  Backup, newfs,
restore.  aka "Nuke it from orbit; it's the only way to be sure".

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Re: [CentOS] Disk De-Fraging in Linux

[William Warren]

IME defragging is highly needed in busy servers that use a lot of disk. 
 Every single one of my clients have seen server performance tank when 
fragmentation goes over 15% or so..including the workstations.  In vista 
it's still necessary.


John R Pierce wrote:



you're in luck cause you don't defrag an ext2/3 partition at all. defrag
is for windows file systems. Ext file systems are a different animal
all-together.



Why?  What's different between NTFS and ext2/3 that defragging is
needed in one but not the other?
  



IMHO, defragging is highly overrated in NTFS too.  it was the old 
FAT/FAT32 file system that suffered from horrible performance when 
heavily fragmented.




that said, the best way to defrag a file system is to dump it to 
external media, delete then recreate the file system and restore the dump.



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Re: [CentOS] webmin

[Jack Bailey]

I really, really, really, really, really, really wouldn't recommend
installing that version, as it is really, really, really, really,
really old.

On the other hand I wouldn't recommend installing webmin anyway - but if
you have to take the rpm from webmin.com (if that is installable on
CentOS, no idea there).


Me neither.  I once found this on a guy's server:

Advisory : 
http://securitydot.net/vuln/exploits/vulnerabilities/articles/17885/vuln.html 


Coded by joffer , http://securitydot.net
*/ 


$host = $argv[1];
$port = $argv[2];
$http = $argv[3];
$file = $argv[4];
// CHECKING THE INPUT
if($host != "" && $port != "" && $http != "" && $file != "") {
[snip]



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[CentOS] logrotate /var/log/maillog

[Thomas Antony]

Hi,

I want to create a new log /var/log/maillog for postfix each day and so 
i created a new logrotate config for the log and removed it from 
/etc/logrotate.d/syslog.


~]# cat /etc/logrotate.d/maillog
/var/log/maillog {
 daily
 rotate 31
 start 1
 compress
 create 0600  root
 postrotate
 /etc/init.d/postfix reload > /dev/null
 endscript
 }

After /var/log/maillog has rotated, postfix doesn't log anything to the 
new log file till i restart syslog. It doesn't matter if i reload or 
restart postfix.

Is this a normal behaviour with this log file and if yes why?



Thomas
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Re: [CentOS] logrotate /var/log/maillog

[Thomas Antony]

Stephen Harris schrieb:

On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 01:06:06PM +0200, Thomas Antony wrote:
After /var/log/maillog has rotated, postfix doesn't log anything to the 
new log file till i restart syslog. It doesn't matter if i reload or 
restart postfix.


You don't need to restart syslog, merely send it a SIGHUP


Is this a normal behaviour with this log file and if yes why?


Yes.

Postfix doesn't write to the file directly, it sends its messages to
syslog which writes according to the mail.* entries in syslog.conf

Check the existing syslog logrotate entry.



Thank you!

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Re: [CentOS] Migrating from ancient Fedora (was Fedora Core 5 EOL on 2007-06-29)

[Jim Perrin]

On 9/21/07, Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> WRT SELinux, just disable it is my suggestion. Or perhaps
> switch to another distro which is not yet infected.

Why yes, ignoring security or bypassing it alltogether rather than
learning how to protect your systems is an EXCELLENT idea. I highly
recommend the 'head in the sand' approach. After all, if you can't see
the bad guys poking you're server, they're not actually doing it,
right?

Selinux is complicated, but it's getting far more easy to use than
earlier versions (FC2 anyone?) and in combination with other tools, it
can provide a rock solid security system.

For webservers, the belt+suspenders combination of mod_security and
selinux is damn near unbeatable.

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Re: [CentOS] logrotate /var/log/maillog

[Stephen Harris]

On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 01:06:06PM +0200, Thomas Antony wrote:
> After /var/log/maillog has rotated, postfix doesn't log anything to the 
> new log file till i restart syslog. It doesn't matter if i reload or 
> restart postfix.

You don't need to restart syslog, merely send it a SIGHUP

> Is this a normal behaviour with this log file and if yes why?

Yes.

Postfix doesn't write to the file directly, it sends its messages to
syslog which writes according to the mail.* entries in syslog.conf

Check the existing syslog logrotate entry.

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Re: [CentOS] Central file server advice please

[Ted Miller]

John Bowden wrote:
I have a Gygabyte GA-7N400 PRO2 with a 2.6 mHz Athlon cpu. I want to set up a 
central file storage for 2/3 users using 6/7 machines. A mixture of win2k, XP 
and various Linux distros (my home network). It will be used to store files, 
(docs, music and DVD ) for all of these machines, print server, (two 
ink-jets), mail server and later on  a myth tv set up. Would SAMBA be the 
best option for the file and print serving ?


Probably

The mother board has 2 X IDE channels, 2 X IDE channels with raid and 2 X SATA 
raid channels, that's up to 10 hard drive devices. The IDE raid chip is a 
GigaRaid IT8212F chipset. It supports raid 0 or raid 1 and raid 0 + 1 and 
JBOD. The SATA raid is a Silicon Image Sil3512. It supports Raid 0 or 1. 
Would I get better speed performance using the chips to manage the raid or 
using software raid?


Some digging on Google seems to show that the IT8212F chipset is a 
"halfway" hardware RAID that offers some performance improvement over 
software RAID.  The Sil3512 chipset appears to be pure "fakeraid", in which 
case you are better off putting it in non-RAID mode (in your BIOS) and 
using software RAID.


Oh and I will be using the CentOS 5 install dvd. Any advice from the list 
would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance, John


The other consideration is migration.  If your motherboard dies some night, 
you can take Linux software RAID disks, transplant them onto another 
motherboard, jump through the setup hoops, and be back in business (because 
the RAID is tied to Linux, not the motherboard).  If you use the 
motherboard chips for RAID at all, that will not transfer to another 
motherboard (except possibly if you get another motherboard with the same 
chipset and BIOS).  Even if you migrate in a non-failure situation, you 
will not be able to move the drives to another motherboard (mobo) until you 
either

1. copy the data to another drive somewhere
   install old drives on new mobo
   set up drives on new mobo in new RAID array
   re-sync drives
   copy data from temporary drive back onto array
or
2. Set up new mobo with new drives
   Do initial setup/sync on new array
   copy entire drive contents from old machine to new machine over network

Compared to connecting drives to a new mobo and having a new install of 
Linux recognize the array and set it up for you, there is quite a bit of 
difference in convenience.


My cursory Google search did not give me any data about how much 
performance improvement you would get from the hardware in the ITF8212F 
chipset, as opposed to an all software solution.  If mass throughput is not 
your primary goal (e.g. serving multiple video streams at once without any 
glitches), software RAID may take a little longer to set up at first 
(though I believe you can do it as part of your install, if you answer the 
questions right), it may be easier to live with later on.


Ted Miller
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[CentOS] CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 31, Issue 9

[centos-announce-request]

bstring-5.1.6-15.el5.x86_64.rpm
2edc9c2d1fbdab2733219a8b489e1899  php-mysql-5.1.6-15.el5.x86_64.rpm
1cfb3883e77dd3aba741805cc61d22eb  php-ncurses-5.1.6-15.el5.x86_64.rpm
95ee6bc62edcc6acb2518f1b04246a41  php-odbc-5.1.6-15.el5.x86_64.rpm
830a50196707c8f42fff70dccb290a3b  php-pdo-5.1.6-15.el5.x86_64.rpm
e0d1c560e970b090f8e6b7fbcf847929  php-pgsql-5.1.6-15.el5.x86_64.rpm
7b18fd25d832a131d574c1703af1582a  php-snmp-5.1.6-15.el5.x86_64.rpm
22397663c3abee8920813ab7cd94cf5a  php-soap-5.1.6-15.el5.x86_64.rpm
c59948576315e58022ea96244c45c208  php-xml-5.1.6-15.el5.x86_64.rpm
1972cf62a7c91497b39eca666e4fead9  php-xmlrpc-5.1.6-15.el5.x86_64.rpm

Source:
47184967ecc6e616442fa4775f797a61  php-5.1.6-15.el5.src.rpm


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Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 05:54:35 -0500
From: Johnny Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2007:0845 Important CentOS 4 i386
libvorbis   - security update
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CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2007:0845

https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2007-0845.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing
to the mirrors:

i386:
libvorbis-1.1.0-2.el4.5.i386.rpm
libvorbis-devel-1.1.0-2.el4.5.i386.rpm

src:
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CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2007:0845

https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2007-0845.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing
to the mirrors:

x86_64:
libvorbis-1.1.0-2.el4.5.i386.rpm
libvorbis-1.1.0-2.el4.5.x86_64.rpm
libvorbis-devel-1.1.0-2.el4.5.x86_64.rpm

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Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 05:55:18 -0500
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Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2007:0848 Important CentOS 4 i386
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CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2007:0848 Important

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2007-0848.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently
syncing to the mirrors:

i386:
openoffice.org-1.1.5-10.6.0.2.EL4.i386.rpm
openoffice.org2-base-2.0.4-5.7.0.2.0.i386.rpm
openoffice.org2-calc-2.0.4-5.7.0.2.0.i386.rpm
openoffice.org2-core-2.0.4-5.7.0.2.0.i386.rpm
openoffice.org2-draw-2.0.4-5.7.0.2.0.i386.rpm
openoffice.org2-emailmerge-2.0.4-5.7.0.2.0.i386.rpm
openoffice.org2-graphicfilter-2.0.4-5.7.0.2.0.i386.rpm
openoffice.org2-impress-2.0.4-5.7.0.2.0.i386.rpm
openoffice.org2-javafilter-2.0.4-5.7.0.2.0.i386.rpm
openoffice.org2-langpack-af_ZA-2.0.4-5.7.0.2.0.i386.rpm
openoffice.org2-langpack-ar-2.0.4-5.7.0.2.0.i386.rpm
openoffice.org2-langpack-bg_BG-2.0.4-5.7.0.2.0.i386.rpm
openoffice.org2-langpack-bn-2.0.4-5.7.0.2.0.i386.rpm
openoffice.org2-langpack-ca_ES-2.0.4-5.7.0.2.0.i386.rpm
openoffice.org2-langpack-cs_CZ-2.0.4-5.7.0.2.0.i386.rpm
openoffice.org2-langpack-cy_GB-2.0.4-5.7.0.2.0.i386.rpm
openoffice.org2-langpack-da_DK-2.0.4-5.7.0.2.0.i386.rpm
openoffice.org2-langpack-de-2.0.4-5.7.0.2.0.i386.rpm
openoffice.org2-langpack-el_GR-2.0.4-5.7.0.2.0.i386.rpm
openoffice.org2-langpack-es-2.0.4-5.7.0.2.0.i386.rpm
openoffice.org2-langpack-et_EE-2.0.4-5.7.0.2.0.i386.rpm
openoffice.org2-langpack-eu_ES-2.0.4-5.7.0.2.0.i386.rpm
openoffice.org2-langpack-fi_FI-2.0.4-5.7.0.2.0.i386.rpm
openoffice.org2-langpack-fr-2.0.4-5.7.0.2.0.i386.rpm
openoffice.org2-langpack-ga_IE-2.0.4-5.7.0.2.0.i386.rpm
openoffice.org2-langpack-gl_ES-2.0.4-5.7.0.2.0.i386.rpm
openoffice.org2-langpack-gu_IN-2.0.4-5.7.0.2.0.i386.rpm
openoffice.org2-langpack-he_IL-2.0.4-5.7.0.2.0.i386.rpm
openoffice.org2-langpack-hi_IN-2.0.4-5.7.0.2.0.i386.rpm
openoffice.org2-langpack-hr_HR-2.0.4-5.7.0.2.0.i386.rpm
openoffice.org2-langpack-hu

Re: [CentOS] A special kernel for linux as guest os

[Akemi Yagi]

On 9/21/07, Scott McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 15:46 -0700, Akemi Yagi wrote:
> > On 9/20/07, Yuji Tsuchimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Dear Yagi-san,
> > >
> > > > I heard from the horse's mouth that the CentOS team is working on the
> > > > 100Hz centosplus kernel. I think your request triggered the action :-)
> > > >  They want make people happy.
> > > That sounds nice!
> > > This TIPS, CONFIG_HZ=100, is one of FAQs. It will make most of us happy.
> > >
> > > Now we can get kernel-vm package on dev.centos.org.
> > > Is it a test release of the special kernel?
> > > I installed the kernel-vm. Its change-log shows HZ=100.
> > > And the kernel seems better for clock interval on VMWare.
> > > Thanks a lot.
> > > Yuji
> >
> > Tsuchimoto-san,
> >
> > Yes, they are in testing.  Some of us have been running the 100HZ
> > kernel for more than 2 months and have not seen any problem so far.
> > If you wish to know more details about the development of the
> > virtualization-optimized kernel, please take a look at:
> >
> > http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=2189
> >
> > And feel free to add any comments you have on that report.
> >
> > Akemi
> > ___
>
> Will the only deviation from the base/updates kernels be the decreased
> number of timer interrupts?  Thanks.

Yes, that is the only difference between the standard kernel and
kernel-vm.  We do have a CentOS 5 i686 UP version which gives slightly
better performance than the default SMP. But this is not an official
version.

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Re: [CentOS] Disk De-Fraging in Linux

[Brian Mathis]

On 9/20/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That or run buzzsaw (win)  which is a continuous defragmenter (well,
> when the system is idle that is) that runs in the background and only
> costs $10.  Pagedefrag from sysinternals doesn't hurt either (and it's free
> off ms' website).  And no, I'm not affiliated with either I just like the
> products.
>
> Geoff

On 9/21/07, William Warren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> IME defragging is highly needed in busy servers that use a lot of disk.
>   Every single one of my clients have seen server performance tank when
> fragmentation goes over 15% or so..including the workstations.  In vista
> it's still necessary.
>

Last I checked, CentOS was Linux?
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Re: [CentOS] A special kernel for linux as guest os

[Scott McClanahan]

On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 15:46 -0700, Akemi Yagi wrote:
> On 9/20/07, Yuji Tsuchimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Dear Yagi-san,
> >
> > > I heard from the horse's mouth that the CentOS team is working on the
> > > 100Hz centosplus kernel. I think your request triggered the action :-)
> > >  They want make people happy.
> > That sounds nice!
> > This TIPS, CONFIG_HZ=100, is one of FAQs. It will make most of us happy.
> >
> > Now we can get kernel-vm package on dev.centos.org.
> > Is it a test release of the special kernel?
> > I installed the kernel-vm. Its change-log shows HZ=100.
> > And the kernel seems better for clock interval on VMWare.
> > Thanks a lot.
> > Yuji
> 
> Tsuchimoto-san,
> 
> Yes, they are in testing.  Some of us have been running the 100HZ
> kernel for more than 2 months and have not seen any problem so far.
> If you wish to know more details about the development of the
> virtualization-optimized kernel, please take a look at:
> 
> http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=2189
> 
> And feel free to add any comments you have on that report.
> 
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RE: [CentOS] xorg-x11

[Barton Callender]

Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 09:32:27 +0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: centos@centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] xorg-x11

Dear Salam,

Please install Xorg-deval package and xorg-depereciated package too. They are 
available in YUM repository.

Regards,

Umair Shakil
ETD


On 9/20/07, 
Barton Callender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:







> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:43:56 -0400
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: 
centos@centos.org
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] xorg-x11
> 
> On 9/19/07, Barton Callender <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  Greetings,
> >
> >  Are there any xorg-x11-devel or xorg-server-devel rpm for centos 5?
> 
> Yes and no. The packages for xorg have been renamed slightly (a change

> inherited from upstream) and the number of packages involved in the
> xorg suite has exploded.
> You probably want the xorg-x11-server-sdk package, though there are
> some others which you may also need.

> 
> You can run the following command to see them all:
> yum list xorg-x11\*
> 
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Hi,


Thank-you for the response, I have xorg-x11-server-sdk package installed.  I am 
trying to rebuild fluxbox source from kbs-Centos repos.  I get this error 
message: -

xorg-x11-devel is needed by fluxbox-0.9.13-1.i38


Thank-you

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I tried installing those packages, my yum repository did not find them.

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[CentOS] RPM for mod_php

[Tom Brown]

Hi Guys

I am trying to find an rpm for CentOS 4.5 and mod_php but i cant seem to 
find one - Am i going my the wrong name?


thanks for any pointers

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Re: [CentOS] RPM for mod_php

[Tom Brown]

'yum list php\*'

  


thanks but i still dont see what i need

Available Packages
php.i386 4.3.9-3.22.9   
update 
php-acid.noarch  0.9.6b22-1.2.el4.rf
dag
php-adodb.noarch 4.81-1.el4.rf  
dag
php-devel.i386   4.3.9-3.22.9   
update 
php-domxml.i386  4.3.9-3.22.9   
update 
php-eaccelerator.i3864.3.9_0.9.3-4.2.el4.rf 
dag
php-gd.i386  4.3.9-3.22.9   
update 
php-imap.i3864.3.9-3.22.9   
update 
php-jpgraph.noarch   1.19-1.2.el4.rf
dag
php-jpgraph-docs.noarch  1.19-1.2.el4.rf
dag
php-ldap.i3864.3.9-3.22.9   
update 
php-mbstring.i3864.3.9-3.22.9   
update 
php-mmcache.i386 4.3.9_2.4.6-7.el4.kb   
kbs-CentOS-Extra
php-mysql.i386   4.3.9-3.22.9   
update 
php-ncurses.i386 4.3.9-3.22.9   
update 
php-odbc.i3864.3.9-3.22.9   
update 
php-pear.i3864.3.9-3.22.9   
update 
php-pear-excel.noarch0.9.0-1.el4.rf 
dag
php-pear-log.noarch  1.9.3-1.2.el4.rf   
dag
php-pear-mail_mime.noarch1.3.1-1.2.el4.rf   
dag
php-pear-ole.noarch  0.5-2.2.el4.rf 
dag
php-pear-phpunit.noarch  1.3.1-1.2.el4.rf   
dag
php-pecl-fileinfo.i386   1.0.4-1.el4.rf 
dag
php-pecl-mailparse.i386  2.1.1-1.2.el4.rf   
dag
php-pecl-memcache.i386   2.1.2-1.el4.rf 
dag
php-pecl-session_mysql.i386  1.9-1.el4.rf   
dag
php-pecl-sqlite.i386 1.0.3-1.2.el4.rf   
dag
php-pgsql.i386   4.3.9-3.22.9   
update 
php-rrdtool.i386 1.0.50-3.el4.rf
dag
php-snmp.i3864.3.9-3.22.9   
update 
php-sqlite.i386  1.0.2-3.2.el4.rf   
dag
php-syck.i3860.55-4.el4.rf  
dag
php-xmlrpc.i386  4.3.9-3.22.9   
update 
phpldapadmin.noarch  0.9.8.3-1.el4.kb   
kbs-CentOS-Extra

phpmyadmin.noarch2.11.0-1.el4.rfdag


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Re: [CentOS] RPM for mod_php

[Jim Perrin]

On 9/21/07, Tom Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Guys
>
> I am trying to find an rpm for CentOS 4.5 and mod_php but i cant seem to
> find one - Am i going my the wrong name?

'yum list php\*'

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Re: [CentOS] RPM for mod_php

[Jim Perrin]

On 9/21/07, Tom Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > 'yum list php\*'
> thanks but i still dont see what i need

The php package is what you need to use php with apache as a module.
The other packages there (php-mysql, php-snmp, etc) are there to add
additional functionality to the core php package. For a basic LAMP
server, you're mostly going to want php, php-mbstring, php-pear,
php-mysql, and php-gd. After you have installed the php package(s)
you'll need to restart httpd so that the module is loaded.


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Re: [CentOS] Central file server advice please

[Joshua Baker-LePain]

On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 at 10:58pm, John Bowden wrote


I have a Gygabyte GA-7N400 PRO2 with a 2.6 mHz Athlon cpu. I want to set up a
central file storage for 2/3 users using 6/7 machines. A mixture of win2k, XP
and various Linux distros (my home network). It will be used to store files,
(docs, music and DVD ) for all of these machines, print server, (two
ink-jets), mail server and later on  a myth tv set up. Would SAMBA be the
best option for the file and print serving ?


Samba for file serving, CUPS for print serving -- both Win2K and XP can 
handle IPP.



The mother board has 2 X IDE channels, 2 X IDE channels with raid and 2 X SATA
raid channels, that's up to 10 hard drive devices. The IDE raid chip is a
GigaRaid IT8212F chipset. It supports raid 0 or raid 1 and raid 0 + 1 and
JBOD. The SATA raid is a Silicon Image Sil3512. It supports Raid 0 or 1.
Would I get better speed performance using the chips to manage the raid or
using software raid?


Without digging out the specs of those cards, I'd lean heavily towards 
software RAID, mainly for ease of management and compatibility.


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Re: [CentOS] Central file server advice please

[Les Mikesell]

John Bowden wrote:

I have a Gygabyte GA-7N400 PRO2 with a 2.6 mHz Athlon cpu. I want to set up a 
central file storage for 2/3 users using 6/7 machines. A mixture of win2k, XP 
and various Linux distros (my home network). It will be used to store files, 
(docs, music and DVD ) for all of these machines, print server, (two 
ink-jets), mail server and later on  a myth tv set up. Would SAMBA be the 
best option for the file and print serving ?
The mother board has 2 X IDE channels, 2 X IDE channels with raid and 2 X SATA 
raid channels, that's up to 10 hard drive devices. The IDE raid chip is a 
GigaRaid IT8212F chipset. It supports raid 0 or raid 1 and raid 0 + 1 and 
JBOD. The SATA raid is a Silicon Image Sil3512. It supports Raid 0 or 1. 
Would I get better speed performance using the chips to manage the raid or 
using software raid?
Oh and I will be using the CentOS 5 install dvd. Any advice from the list 
would be appreciated.


If you are interested in an appliance-like setup for serving files, 
printers, email and some other things, you might like the SME server 
from http://www.contribs.org. It's based on centos code but with a 
kickstart install and completely web based administration. It will 
automatically install as raid1 if it sees 2 disks, or as a 'broken' raid 
set if you only have one so you can easily add the mirror later (a very 
nice trick).  Since the configuration is all built by web/perl scripts 
it is hard to do additional customization, but in a multiple machine 
setup you might find it easy to take advantage of its features.


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Re: [CentOS] Central file server advice please

[Von Landfried]

My one piece of advice, coming from experience, is to buy a hardware  
RAID card from a reputable manufacturer, i.e. 3ware, Adaptec, LSI. I  
personally recommend 3ware, and have 10+ in various servers here in  
the office. The $200-$600 dollars you will spend will be well worth  
it if something ever should happen. You can swap out cards, and the  
raid array will be recognized, you can swap out drives on the fly,  
and they all support the newer RAID 6 for even better redundancy (I  
like RAID10, but I am paranoid). 3ware has amazing utilities for  
monitoring the array, either via the linux CLI, or via a secure web  
interface (nice when you use SSH port forwarding). It will send you  
an email when any errors occur (configurable detail levels) so this  
helps provide peace of mind. I can't stress how important a dedicated  
hardware RAID card is, regardless of the brand.


Just my .02


On Sep 21, 2007, at 11:06 AM, Joshua Baker-LePain wrote:


On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 at 10:58pm, John Bowden wrote

I have a Gygabyte GA-7N400 PRO2 with a 2.6 mHz Athlon cpu. I want  
to set up a
central file storage for 2/3 users using 6/7 machines. A mixture  
of win2k, XP
and various Linux distros (my home network). It will be used to  
store files,

(docs, music and DVD ) for all of these machines, print server, (two
ink-jets), mail server and later on  a myth tv set up. Would SAMBA  
be the

best option for the file and print serving ?


Samba for file serving, CUPS for print serving -- both Win2K and XP  
can handle IPP.


The mother board has 2 X IDE channels, 2 X IDE channels with raid  
and 2 X SATA
raid channels, that's up to 10 hard drive devices. The IDE raid  
chip is a
GigaRaid IT8212F chipset. It supports raid 0 or raid 1 and raid 0  
+ 1 and
JBOD. The SATA raid is a Silicon Image Sil3512. It supports Raid 0  
or 1.
Would I get better speed performance using the chips to manage the  
raid or

using software raid?


Without digging out the specs of those cards, I'd lean heavily  
towards software RAID, mainly for ease of management and  
compatibility.


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[CentOS] Re: CentOS5 Network Problems

[Scott Silva]

semi linux spake the following on 9/20/2007 4:59 PM:

On 9/20/07, James A. Peltier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

semi linux wrote:

I have a very odd problem connecting to some websites from my CentOS 5 box

Target websites:
www.connecttech.com
www.3ware.com
(two of my HW vendors)

I can usually get some kind of response, but if the content (download
or page itself) is larger in size (downloads never pass 100K), then it
hangs...

When I fire-up wireshark, I get a lot of ougoing highlighted Checksum
Errored packets but I don't know what's causing it...  Here's what
I've eliminated thus far:

- Websites are up and responsive
- Cable(s) is fine
- Network drop is fine
- I put myself behind a firewall to make sure it wasn't my network
- Network card has been switched
- Driver has been switched
- Removed any firewall
- wget has problems as well
- Other computers on the same network work fine.

Sites like maps.google.com work just fine...  I'm open to any
suggestion at this point.

I'm completely lost.

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When you say network drop is fine does that mean from the switch to your
computer?  Have you tried a different port on your switch?


I've used my laptop on the same network drop...
I've changed from port A to B in this cube and I've tried A and B in
the cube next to me... all four ports produce the same result with the
system but work fine with my laptop.

`   
Then it has to be the hardware/driver interactions. Or the box has some kind 
of interference problem. Do you have a power supply you could try? It could be 
a faulty earth ground on the box or in PS that is causing stray EMF. Your 
lappy would be OK because it is separated from the ground problem. Since you 
moved the box, I doubt it is the bldg. wiring.


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[CentOS] Re: Central file server advice please

[Scott Silva]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] spake the following 
on 9/21/2007 2:43 AM:
Exactly how much throughput are you realistically anticipating?  
What connection are you going to use?  802.11 or 10/100 or gige?  
And yes, the chips will pretty much always give you better performance with raid.


Hardware raid gives better performance. Both of those are "fakeraid".It won't 
perform any better than software raid.







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Re: [CentOS] Re: CentOS5 Network Problems

[semi linux]

On 9/21/07, Tony Mountifield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Joshua Baker-LePain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 at 5:04pm, semi linux wrote
> >
> > > Wicked! that worked... How weird...  I'm going to have to look this up
> > > and read about it... it seems weird that the kernel would have it on
> > > by default if it's as common as it seems to me.
> > >
> > > Thanks a million!
> > >
> > > You don't happen to have any links of where you found this, do you?
> >
> > Here's one:
> >
> > http://lwn.net/Articles/92727/
> >
> > Bottom line is that the behavior is a result of broken routers, and the
> > kernel leaves it enabled because it *should* work.
>
> Would be interesting to know what make/model of router the original poster
> is using, that exhibited this problem, and which firmware version.
>
> Unless the problem is in his ISP
>
> Cheers
> Tony

It's further up the line... remember, some websites work, others
don't... I suppose it depends on the amount of data coming from the
remote site, but everything internal works great and the bigger sites,
like google, yahoo, mapquest, etc. all work fine... it's the smaller
sites that I had problems with...  Believe me, I wish I knew when this
problem was but I don't think it's any of the networking gear here in
the office...

Thanks to everyone who replied... I would have been searching for
weeks on this one.

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Re: [CentOS] webmin

[John Hinton]

Ralph Angenendt wrote:

Ray Leventhal wrote:
  

Hiep Nguyen wrote:


hi there, i just insalled centos 4.5 minimal, but want to use yum to
install webmin?  anybody know how??
  

Webmin is available as

webmin-1.250-1.2.el4.rf.noarch.rpm



I really, really, really, really, really, really wouldn't recommend
installing that version, as it is really, really, really, really,
really old.

On the other hand I wouldn't recommend installing webmin anyway - but if
you have to take the rpm from webmin.com (if that is installable on
CentOS, no idea there).
  
Webmin fully supports all versions of CentOS natively. This is likely 
done via a RHEL alias of some sort or perhaps even backwards... as in 
CentOS might even be the OS where testing is done and the outcome might 
be ported to RHEL. :) The bottom line, it will recognize your OS and set 
itself up according to the normal standards within that OS like the 
name of the apache service and where it lives and where the conf files 
are and any includes. This is done for almost everything. You will find 
you'll need to point it in the right direction for some modules.. but 
the ability is built in.


And yes, it is not as secure as a non-gui server without a control 
panel, but it does make life a whole lot easier. It does take a fair 
amount of time to configure each module you use to make sure it outputs 
as you wish. Really this should be considered an aid to those that are 
used to doing all the configs by hand first and then wrap Webmin into a 
state that does it the way you want it done.


As far as security is involved, you should for sure run webmin under 
secure server. You can set webmin to run on any available port instead 
of the default 1 and you can set it to only accept connections from 
certain IP addresses or networks. Those are a good first line of 
defense. From there more can be done but is really not pertinent to this 
list. Webmin is a very active project and it's very easy to contact the 
author on the webmin mailing list.


A big positive for webmin... for me so far it really doesn't care if you 
do some configurations by hand and some from within its interface. In 
other words it makes use of the standard conf files in reading and 
writing. This is very much unlike anything else I have looked at.


Best,
John Hinton

Cheers,

Ralph
  



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Re: [CentOS] Central file server advice please

[John R Pierce]

John Bowden wrote:
The mother board has 2 X IDE channels, 2 X IDE channels with raid and 2 X SATA 
raid channels, that's up to 10 hard drive devices. ...



Sometimes those IDE channels w/ raid only support 1 drive per channel.   
anyways, putting two devices on one IDE channel w/ raid isn't a very 
good idea, if either device fails in certain modes, it can take out the 
IDE channel.


WhateverI'd configure it all as JBOD, and implement raid-1 
(mirroring) or raid1+0 (stripe/mirror) in Linux.


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Re: [CentOS] 3Ware 9550SX and latency/system responsiveness

[Simon Banton]

At 17:34 +0800 14/9/07, Feizhou wrote:

.ohdo you have a BBU for your write cache on your 3ware board?


Not installed, but the machine's on a UPS.


Ugh. The 3ware code will not give OK then until the stuff has hit disk.


Having now installed BBUs, it's made no difference to the underlying 
responsiveness problem I'm afraid.


With ports 2 and 3 now configured as RAID 0, with ext3 filesystem and 
mounted on /mnt/raidtest, running this bonnie++ command:


bonnie++ -m RA-256_NR-8192 -n 0 -u 0 -r 4096 -s 20480 -f -b -d /mnt/raidtest

(RA- and NR- relate to kernel params for readahead and nr_requests 
respectively - the values above are Centos post-installation defaults)


...causes load to climb:

16:36:12 up 13 min,  2 users,  load average: 8.77, 4.78, 1.98

... and uninterruptible processes:

 ps ax | grep D
  PID TTY  STAT   TIME COMMAND
   59 ?D  0:03 [kswapd0]
 2159 ?D  0:01 [kjournald]
 2923 ?Ds 0:00 syslogd -m 0
 4155 ?D  0:00 [pdflush]
 4175 ?D  0:00 [pdflush]
 4192 ?D  0:00 [pdflush]
 4193 ?D  0:00 [pdflush]
 4197 ?D  0:00 [pdflush]
 4199 ?D  0:00 [pdflush]
 4201 pts/1R+ 0:00 grep D

... plus an Out of Memory kill of sshd. Second time around (logged in 
on the console rather than over ssh), it's just the same except it's 
hald that happens to get clobbered instead.


Now that the presence or otherwise of a BBU has been ruled out along 
with OS, 3ware recommended kernel param tweaks, RAID level, LVM, slot 
speed, different but identical-spec hardware (both machine and card), 
what's left to try?


I see there's a new firmware version out today (3ware codeset 9.4.1.3 
- driver's still at 2.26.05.007 but the fw's updated to from 
3.08.02.005 to 3.08.02.007), so I guess I'll update it and push the 
whole thing back up the hill for another go.


If there's anyone out there with a 9550SX and a two-disk RAID 1 or 
RAID 0 config on CentOS 4.5 who can give the above bonnie++ benchmark 
a go (params adjusted for their own installed RAM - I'm benchmarking 
using 5x my installed amount) and let me know if they also have the 
same responsiveness problem or not, I'd seriously appreciate it.


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Re: [CentOS] Disk De-Fraging in Linux

[Mark Weaver]

Brian Mathis wrote:

On 9/20/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

That or run buzzsaw (win)  which is a continuous defragmenter (well,
when the system is idle that is) that runs in the background and only
costs $10.  Pagedefrag from sysinternals doesn't hurt either (and it's free
off ms' website).  And no, I'm not affiliated with either I just like the
products.

Geoff


On 9/21/07, William Warren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

IME defragging is highly needed in busy servers that use a lot of disk.
  Every single one of my clients have seen server performance tank when
fragmentation goes over 15% or so..including the workstations.  In vista
it's still necessary.



Last I checked, CentOS was Linux?


thank you. I'm glad someone said it cause I was starting to wonder what 
list I was reading.


In answer to "what's the difference between NTFS and ext2/3?" Friggin 
night and day brother! Night and DAY.
But I digress. I think what is needed here is a tried and true RTFM. 
That is the response I was expecting would
find it's way into this thread, but I've not yet seen it. Maybe further 
down the thread perhaps.  :)


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Re: [CentOS] Disk De-Fraging in Linux

[Mark Weaver]

umair shakil wrote:

Dear Salam,

Well i have used the command on shell "updatedb" it will allow you to 
make fast

searching.

Regards,

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um... what?

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Re: [CentOS] posting a message

[gjgowey]

Er... Um... Problem solved?

Geoff

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I have difficulties in posting a message to the mailing list. I think this is 
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[CentOS] posting a message

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I have difficulties in posting a message to the mailing list. I think
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Please tell me what to do to post a problem to the group for get a help 
 
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Re: [CentOS] Migrating from ancient Fedora (was Fedora Core 5 EOL on 2007-06-29)

[Mike McCarty]

Jim Perrin wrote:

On 9/21/07, Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



WRT SELinux, just disable it is my suggestion. Or perhaps
switch to another distro which is not yet infected.



Why yes, ignoring security or bypassing it alltogether rather than
learning how to protect your systems is an EXCELLENT idea. I highly


Sarcasm is unbecoming. I suppose you are unaware of the
long and bitter discussions on Fedora about SELinux?


recommend the 'head in the sand' approach. After all, if you can't see
the bad guys poking you're server, they're not actually doing it,
right?


SELinux does not prevent nor report people "poking your server".


Selinux is complicated, but it's getting far more easy to use than


SELinux is complicated, FULL STOP. It's a wrong-headed approach.


earlier versions (FC2 anyone?) and in combination with other tools, it
can provide a rock solid security system.


Any security system which is not already rock solid is not going
to be made any more secure from attack by adding SELinux. It might
possibly suffer somewhat less damage, though that's debatable.


For webservers, the belt+suspenders combination of mod_security and
selinux is damn near unbeatable.


You have personal experience with SELinux "saving" your system?

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Re: [CentOS] Migrating from ancient Fedora (was Fedora Core 5 EOL on 2007-06-29)

[Jim Perrin]

On 9/21/07, Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jim Perrin wrote:
> > On 9/21/07, Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>WRT SELinux, just disable it is my suggestion. Or perhaps
> >>switch to another distro which is not yet infected.
> >
> >
> > Why yes, ignoring security or bypassing it alltogether rather than
> > learning how to protect your systems is an EXCELLENT idea. I highly
>
> Sarcasm is unbecoming. I suppose you are unaware of the
> long and bitter discussions on Fedora about SELinux?

I'm aware of them, and I'm on the side supporting selinux, however it
doesn't make much sense for desktop systems. Servers on the other hand
can very much benefit from selinux.


> SELinux does not prevent nor report people "poking your server".

Depends on how you define poking. Mine may be different but I consider
portscans and such "The cost of doing business online". If someone's
trying an apache/php etc exploit, that's a poke. And selinux does
report the ones which attempt to read/write places where it's not
supposed to.

> SELinux is complicated, FULL STOP. It's a wrong-headed approach.

Complicated doesn't mean that it's wrong headed. it simply means it's
complicated. By this logic people shouldn't use sendmail either (okay,
I dislike sendmail but you get my point).


> Any security system which is not already rock solid is not going
> to be made any more secure from attack by adding SELinux. It might
> possibly suffer somewhat less damage, though that's debatable.

This just isn't correct. Keeping programs from accessing things they
don't need access to is ALWAYS better than not. With traditional DAC
owner/group/world permissions, this just isn't possible once you start
adding complexity.

> > For webservers, the belt+suspenders combination of mod_security and
> > selinux is damn near unbeatable.
>
> You have personal experience with SELinux "saving" your system?

Yes, actually. We have a few systems here which run older versions of
insecure php applications. SELinux keeps folks from dropping shell
scripts into place on the system (a fairly common attack) and
mod_security keeps the sql injections out. Added system security
features help, but on the older (RHEL3 boxen) attackers can mostly
just walk right in.
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Re: [CentOS] Migrating from ancient Fedora (was Fedora Core 5 EOL on 2007-06-29)

[Craig White]

On Fri, 2007-09-21 at 14:54 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
> Jim Perrin wrote:
> > On 9/21/07, Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>WRT SELinux, just disable it is my suggestion. Or perhaps
> >>switch to another distro which is not yet infected.
> > 
> > 
> > Why yes, ignoring security or bypassing it alltogether rather than
> > learning how to protect your systems is an EXCELLENT idea. I highly
> 
> Sarcasm is unbecoming. I suppose you are unaware of the
> long and bitter discussions on Fedora about SELinux?
> 

and I am rapidly losing all respect for you as you seek another forum to
pollute with your rant regarding SELinux - now on Fedora-list running
120+ messages

Anyone who continues this topic on this list is doing so needlessly
because they can simply subscribe to fedora-list and save yet another
list from being bogged down.

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[CentOS] named & rndc

[Craig White]

I've done something a while back that has messed with my named.conf and
prevents me from restarting named service normally...

My problem...
# service named restart
Stopping named:[FAILED]
Starting named: named: already running [FAILED]

nothing gets logged in /var/log/messages

obviously, I can do this to restart it...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# ps aux|grep named
named26598  0.1  0.3  72168  3732 ?Ssl  15:41
0:00 /usr/sbin/named -u named -4 -t /var/named/chroot
root 26687  0.0  0.0   3880   696 pts/18   S+   15:43   0:00 grep
named
[EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# kill 26598
[EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# service named restart
Stopping named:[FAILED]
Starting named:[  OK  ]

and the pid of named seems to be where it belongs...
# ls -l /var/named/chroot/var/run/named/named.pid
-rw-r--r-- 1 named named 6 Sep 21
15:43 /var/named/chroot/var/run/named/named.pid

if I try...
# service named status
rndc: connection to remote host closed
This may indicate that the remote server is using an older version of
the command protocol, this host is not authorized to connect,
or the key is invalid.

but looking at my named.conf, I'm directly including rndc.key
# grep rndc named.conf
inet 127.0.0.1 allow { localhost; } keys { DYNAMIC_DNS_KEY;
rndc.key; };
include "/etc/rndc.key";

and obviously, I am running named-chroot...
# tail -n 3 /etc/sysconfig/named
ROOTDIR=/var/named/chroot
OPTIONS=-4
ENABLE_ZONE_WRITE=yes

# rpm -qa|grep bind
bind-chroot-9.3.3-9.0.1.el5
bind-9.3.3-9.0.1.el5
bind-libs-9.3.3-9.0.1.el5
bind-utils-9.3.3-9.0.1.el5

what did I do to break it?

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Re: [CentOS] named & rndc

[Robert Spangler]

On Fri September 21 2007 18:50, Craig White wrote:

>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# kill 26598
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# service named restart
>  Stopping named:[FAILED]
>  Starting named:[  OK  ]

After you have killed named start it with 'start' not 'restart'.

>  if I try...
>  # service named status
>  rndc: connection to remote host closed
>  This may indicate that the remote server is using an older version of
>  the command protocol, this host is not authorized to connect,
>  or the key is invalid.
>
>  but looking at my named.conf, I'm directly including rndc.key
>  # grep rndc named.conf
>  inet 127.0.0.1 allow { localhost; } keys { DYNAMIC_DNS_KEY;
>  rndc.key; };
>  include "/etc/rndc.key";

This doesn't look right.  My control section in named.conf is :

controls {
inet 127.0.0.1 allow { any; }
keys { rndc-key; };

No need for 'include '.  Your rndc.conf should also be located in your 
chroot /etc dir.

Take notice to what is in between {} in the keys statement.  This has to match 
what is in your rndc.conf file.


server localhost {
key "rndc-key";
};


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Re: [CentOS] named & rndc

[Craig White]

On Fri, 2007-09-21 at 20:56 -0400, Robert Spangler wrote:
> On Fri September 21 2007 18:50, Craig White wrote:
> 
> >  [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# kill 26598
> >  [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# service named restart
> >  Stopping named:[FAILED]
> >  Starting named:[  OK  ]
> 
> After you have killed named start it with 'start' not 'restart'.

yeah, I know, I'm lazy and just up arrow/return

> 
> >  if I try...
> >  # service named status
> >  rndc: connection to remote host closed
> >  This may indicate that the remote server is using an older version of
> >  the command protocol, this host is not authorized to connect,
> >  or the key is invalid.
> >
> >  but looking at my named.conf, I'm directly including rndc.key
> >  # grep rndc named.conf
> >  inet 127.0.0.1 allow { localhost; } keys { DYNAMIC_DNS_KEY;
> >  rndc.key; };
> >  include "/etc/rndc.key";
> 
> This doesn't look right.  My control section in named.conf is :
> 
> controls {
> inet 127.0.0.1 allow { any; }
> keys { rndc-key; };

it makes no difference if I only have 1 'key' in my control section or 2
- I have tried all combinations

> 
> No need for 'include '.  Your rndc.conf should also be located in your 
> chroot /etc dir.

likewise, it makes no difference whether 1 or both keys are stored in
the file itself or 'include rndc.key'

> 
> Take notice to what is in between {} in the keys statement.  This has to 
> match 
> what is in your rndc.conf file.

> server localhost {
> key "rndc-key";
> };

apparently CentOS-5 doesn't include rndc.conf but has a program called
rndc-confgen and I copied over my named.conf/zone files etc from
previous server.

/var/named/chroot/etc/rndc.conf
options {
default-server  localhost;
default-key "rndckey";
default-port953;
};

server localhost {
key "rndckey";
};

include "/etc/rndc.key";

 and then in /var/named/chroot/etc/named.conf

controls {
inet 127.0.0.1 port 953 allow { 127.0.0.1; } keys {
DYNAMIC_DNS_KEY; "rndckey"; };
};

include "/etc/rndc.key";

no probs mate - thanks - it's solved

Craig

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Re: [CentOS] xorg-x11

[umair shakil]

Salam,

I am using CentOs 4.4 here is the list,

yum list | grep xorg-x11

Please have a look  you will find in the bottom these two packages,

xorg-x11-deprecated-libs.i3866.8.2-1.EL.31
update
xorg-x11-devel.i386  6.8.2-1.EL.31  update

Regards,

Umair Shakil
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On 9/21/07, Barton Callender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
>
> --
> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 09:32:27 +0500
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: centos@centos.org
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] xorg-x11
>
> Dear Salam,
>
> Please install Xorg-deval package and xorg-depereciated package too. They
> are available in YUM repository.
>
> Regards,
>
> Umair Shakil
> ETD
>
>
> On 9/20/07, *Barton Callender* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:43:56 -0400
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: centos@centos.org
> > Subject: Re: [CentOS] xorg-x11
> >
> > On 9/19/07, Barton Callender < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > > Are there any xorg-x11-devel or xorg-server-devel rpm for centos 5?
> >
> > Yes and no. The packages for xorg have been renamed slightly (a change
> > inherited from upstream) and the number of packages involved in the
> > xorg suite has exploded.
> > You probably want the xorg-x11-server-sdk package, though there are
> > some others which you may also need.
> >
> > You can run the following command to see them all:
> > yum list xorg-x11\*
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> Thank-you for the response, I have xorg-x11-server-sdk package installed.
> I am trying to rebuild fluxbox source from kbs-Centos repos.  I get this
> error message: -
>
> xorg-x11-devel is needed by fluxbox-0.9.13-1.i38
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Re: [CentOS] RPM for mod_php

[umair shakil]

Salam

please follow the URL

http://hany.sk/~hany/RPM/mod_php.html

Available RPMS

Regards,

Umair Shakil
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> Hi Guys
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> I am trying to find an rpm for CentOS 4.5 and mod_php but i cant seem to
> find one - Am i going my the wrong name?
>
> thanks for any pointers
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Re: [CentOS] Disk De-Fraging in Linux

[umair shakil]

Dear Salam,

No it doesnot slow down the system

Regards,

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On 9/21/07, Feizhou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> umair shakil wrote:
> > Dear Salam,
> >
> > Well i have used the command on shell "updatedb" it will allow you to
> > make fast
> > searching.
>
> and slow down the whole box during updatedb :-)
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Re: [CentOS] named & rndc

[umair shakil]

Salam,

Tell me one thing, you killed the service, means service not running.
when u start the
service then why are u using this command!!!

service named restart

should be "service named start" or /etc/init.d/named start

if you are running  secondary DNS, then your rndc key should be copied to
the other
server as well, actually your rndc key not matching, i worked on DNS more
than year back, faced the  same issue, donot know exactly the files to be
remember please search

Regards,

Umair Shakil
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On 9/22/07, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I've done something a while back that has messed with my named.conf and
> prevents me from restarting named service normally...
>
> My problem...
> # service named restart
> Stopping named:[FAILED]
> Starting named: named: already running [FAILED]
>
> nothing gets logged in /var/log/messages
>
> obviously, I can do this to restart it...
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# ps aux|grep named
> named26598  0.1  0.3  72168  3732 ?Ssl  15:41
> 0:00 /usr/sbin/named -u named -4 -t /var/named/chroot
> root 26687  0.0  0.0   3880   696 pts/18   S+   15:43   0:00 grep
> named
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# kill 26598
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# service named restart
> Stopping named:[FAILED]
> Starting named:[  OK  ]
>
> and the pid of named seems to be where it belongs...
> # ls -l /var/named/chroot/var/run/named/named.pid
> -rw-r--r-- 1 named named 6 Sep 21
> 15:43 /var/named/chroot/var/run/named/named.pid
>
> if I try...
> # service named status
> rndc: connection to remote host closed
> This may indicate that the remote server is using an older version of
> the command protocol, this host is not authorized to connect,
> or the key is invalid.
>
> but looking at my named.conf, I'm directly including rndc.key
> # grep rndc named.conf
> inet 127.0.0.1 allow { localhost; } keys { DYNAMIC_DNS_KEY;
> rndc.key; };
> include "/etc/rndc.key";
>
> and obviously, I am running named-chroot...
> # tail -n 3 /etc/sysconfig/named
> ROOTDIR=/var/named/chroot
> OPTIONS=-4
> ENABLE_ZONE_WRITE=yes
>
> # rpm -qa|grep bind
> bind-chroot-9.3.3-9.0.1.el5
> bind-9.3.3-9.0.1.el5
> bind-libs-9.3.3-9.0.1.el5
> bind-utils-9.3.3-9.0.1.el5
>
> what did I do to break it?
>
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[CentOS] Re: Openoffice 2.3 on centos 5 issue

[beast]

On 20/09/07 10:51 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:47:07 +0700
beast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> took out a #2 pencil and scribbled:


I have just install OOo 2.3 on new centos 5 box. However OO keep
open registration wizard everytime launched, even though i
already select "i do not want to register".

I've been playing with "$HOME/.openoffice.org2/" but still no
luck. This problem did not happen on FC6, so i guess its not OOo
bug.


--beast


Although, I can't give you a resolution to your problem, other than
possibly trying to reinstall (maybe something geeked out?). I also
have OpenOffice on CentOS 5, I do not have that problem. I've not
experienced that issue on either the CentOS 4.5 or 5 series. 


Believe it or not, i've reinstalled 5 times (using kickstart, gnome desktop
but rather minimal pkgs)
I have tried ver 2.2.1 also, but same issue. However it works on other C5
with full install with original OO removed.
I guess it depends on the some pkg which i did not know. I have tried install
tomcat-* but still no luck. 
Any other clue?


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[CentOS] vsftp question ?

[Indunil Jayasooriya]

Hi,

I want to setup vsftp on centos 4.5. 2 types of ftp. they  are active and
pasive. What is the default type ftp type o CentOS ?

Is is PASIVE ftp?

in /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.conf, I found below line. What should I do for below
line?

# Make sure PORT transfer connections originate from port 20 (ftp-data).
connect_from_port_20=YES

Should I COMMENT it out?  I need a very secure ftp service.


YOUR ideas?





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