[CentOS] shrink LV with ext3 filesystem

2007-09-04 Thread Thomas Antony

Hi.

I want to make a snapshot from a logical volume and noticed that there 
must be enough free disk space in the volume group. Actually there is no 
  free disk space left.
How do i shrink online /var without losing any data or restore from 
backup? I do not have physical access to the server.



Specs:

Dell PE SC1430 with a 5/i RAID Controller
one RAID 1 array from the Dell RAID controller
2 partitons (boot and LVM)
1 VG
3 LV (swap, /var (/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol02) and / formatted with ext3)
/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol02 211G   39G  162G  20% /var


Thank you in advance.

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Re: [CentOS] shrink LV with ext3 filesystem

2007-09-04 Thread Luciano Rocha
On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 12:40:24PM +0200, Thomas Antony wrote:
>  Hi.
> 
>  I want to make a snapshot from a logical volume and noticed that there must 
>  be enough free disk space in the volume group. Actually there is no   free 
>  disk space left.
>  How do i shrink online /var without losing any data or restore from backup? 

You can't shrink ext2/ext3 filesystems online. You'll have to schedule a
downtime.

Another solution is to remove and use a file for swap (swapoff ... &&
lvremove ...), or reduce it (swapoff ... && lvreduce ... && mkswap && swapon).

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Re: [CentOS] strange chgrp behavior

2007-09-04 Thread Tomas Ruprich
Thanks for your reply and your time,
i've reported it to centos bug tracking system. I will try it also on
RHEL and if it occurs, i'll sent it also to the RH.

> ISTM it's a bug and should be reported on both CentOS and RH tracking
> systems. Two errors are apparent. One may be difficult to correct.
> 
> As you originally discovered, the user ID is being change during
> execution of the command to change a group. And it is using the ID from
> the symbolic link owner, as you later noticed.
> 
> The 2nd bug is a recursion into the original directory via the symbolic
> link when dereference is not suppressed. IMO, recursion should not
> occur, but I know from a programming background that it takes a little
> foresight, thought and intense effort to avoid this sort of trap.

I think, that dereferrence should occure (at least for my coreutils
version); man chgrp:
--dereference
affect the referent of each symbolic link, rather than the symbolic 
link itself (this is the default)

> As an afterthought, how valid is it to have user control files that are
> supposed to be contained in an "invisible" directory in the user's
> $HOME? This presents a "non-standard" structure that offers increased
> opportunities for mishaps of various types.
> 
> --
> Bill
> 

Well, that's another point, but that's not my job here :( I realized
this behavior on shared home directories server. These homes are
used by Win domain in classrooms, on terminal services, etc. It's not my
business to control, if some users (or local administrators) create symlink 
to their home directory... But maybe i should write some little audit
scrip, which would search for these...

thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] Re: OT: Suggestions for RAID HW for 2 SATA drives in

2007-09-04 Thread Phil Schaffner
On Mon, 2007-09-03 at 15:31 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote:
> On 31 August 2007, Phil Schaffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Message: 21
> > 
> > > As discussed recently on-list, VMware CPU requirements to support
> > > virtualization are not nearly so rigorous as for Xen.  You are
> > > probably OK with VMware on most any relatively modern x86 or x86_64
> > > CPU.
> > > http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2007-August/085796.htmlg.
> 
> http://www.vmware.com/products/server/?urlcode=yahoo_ssp
> 
> Phil: That's very cool! The largest free space I have on my HD is about
> 5.3 GB. Can I create a new partition there and try VMware Server? TIA,

No new partition is needed.  VMware virtual disks are created as files
within the hosts OS.  That's not a lot of free space to play with, but
enough to experiment with.  Here's a sample of a directory of assorted
VMware VMs:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] vmware]$ du -sh *
23G C5_64
4.0GCentOS_3_9
4.7GCentOS-QA
6.7Gfedora-7-i386
4.1GPCLinuxOS_2007
21G W2K_Pro
22G XP


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Re: [CentOS] shrink LV with ext3 filesystem

2007-09-04 Thread Thomas Antony

Luciano Rocha schrieb:

On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 12:40:24PM +0200, Thomas Antony wrote:

 Hi.

 I want to make a snapshot from a logical volume and noticed that there must 
 be enough free disk space in the volume group. Actually there is no   free 
 disk space left.
 How do i shrink online /var without losing any data or restore from backup? 


You can't shrink ext2/ext3 filesystems online. You'll have to schedule a
downtime.

Another solution is to remove and use a file for swap (swapoff ... &&
lvremove ...), or reduce it (swapoff ... && lvreduce ... && mkswap && swapon).


Hi.

Is it possible that i log into the server with ssh and umount only /var 
and then resize the logical volume?



Thomas

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RE: [CentOS] shrink LV with ext3 filesystem

2007-09-04 Thread Ross S. W. Walker
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Antony
> 
> Luciano Rocha schrieb:
> > On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 12:40:24PM +0200, Thomas Antony wrote:
> >>  Hi.
> >>
> >>  I want to make a snapshot from a logical volume and 
> noticed that there must 
> >>  be enough free disk space in the volume group. Actually 
> there is no   free 
> >>  disk space left.
> >>  How do i shrink online /var without losing any data or 
> restore from backup? 
> > 
> > You can't shrink ext2/ext3 filesystems online. You'll have 
> to schedule a
> > downtime.
> > 
> > Another solution is to remove and use a file for swap 
> (swapoff ... &&
> > lvremove ...), or reduce it (swapoff ... && lvreduce ... && 
> mkswap && swapon).
> 
> Hi.
> 
> Is it possible that i log into the server with ssh and umount 
> only /var 
> and then resize the logical volume?

Maybe in single user mode, but /var is needed for multi-user
mode to function.

Remember: if shrinking, shrink filesystem first then LV, if
expanding then expand the LV first then the filesystem.

-Ross

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Re: [CentOS] shrink LV with ext3 filesystem

2007-09-04 Thread Sebastian Walter
Thomas Antony wrote:
> Is it possible that i log into the server with ssh and umount only
> /var and then resize the logical volume?
>
Try it. Most probably the system will tell you that the disk is in use.
What you could do then is booting from a live CD and resize it from
there (System will be offline, of course).

Regards
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Re: [CentOS] shrink LV with ext3 filesystem

2007-09-04 Thread Luciano Rocha
On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 03:26:53PM +0200, Thomas Antony wrote:
>  Luciano Rocha schrieb:
> > On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 12:40:24PM +0200, Thomas Antony wrote:
> >>  Hi.
> >>
> >>  I want to make a snapshot from a logical volume and noticed that there 
> >> must  be enough free disk space in the volume group. Actually there is no  
> >>  free  disk space left.
> >>  How do i shrink online /var without losing any data or restore from 
> >> backup? 
> > You can't shrink ext2/ext3 filesystems online. You'll have to schedule a
> > downtime.
> > Another solution is to remove and use a file for swap (swapoff ... &&
> > lvremove ...), or reduce it (swapoff ... && lvreduce ... && mkswap && 
> > swapon).
> 
>  Hi.
> 
>  Is it possible that i log into the server with ssh and umount only /var and 
>  then resize the logical volume?

Yes, but you'll have to stop a lot of daemons and other processes that
run with files opened in /var.

You can find the processes accessing /var with lsof or fuser:
# fuser -mv /var
# lsof /var

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[CentOS] Re: Using HTTP proxy for yum

2007-09-04 Thread Scott Moseman
On 8/28/07, Scott Moseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > proxy=http://hostname.domain.com/
> > > > proxy_username=domain\myusername
> > > > proxy_password=mypassword
>
> Perhaps the problem is that its a web -filter- and not really a -proxy-?
> Maybe I should try bypassing the corporate -filter- and use my -proxy-
> at home to see what happens.
>

For those interested, the cause of the problem is the corporate filter
requires NTLM authentication -- and Yum does not support NTLM.

Our filter/proxy vendor suggested... http://ntlmaps.sourceforge.net/

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[CentOS] RAID + LVM Addition to CentOS 5 Install

2007-09-04 Thread Nick Webb
Hi All,

I have what I believe to be a pretty basic LVM & RAID setup on my
CentOS 5 machine:

Raid Partitions:
/dev/sda1,sdb1
/dev/sda2,sdb2
/dev/sda3,sdb3

During the install I created a RAID 1 volume md0 out of sda1,sdb1 for
the boot partition and then added sda2,sdb2 to a separate RAID 1
volume as well (md1).  I then setup md1 as a LVM physical volume for
volume group 'system'.  I left the sda3,sdb3 partitions available for
future use.

Next I created swap, /, /usr, /var, etc. logical volumes in the system
volume group and continued with this install as normal.  Everything
went fine.  I was able to use the system, reboot, etc., without
problems.

I then discovered that I needed more space in my /var volume than was
available in the system volume group.  So, I created another RAID
device, /dev/md2 (using sda3,sdb3), and created an LVM physical volume
on top of that.  Finally, I extended the system physical volume to
contain this new physical volume and expanded the size of the /var
volume.

This worked fine, but on reboot I get a ton of errors from LVM saying
that volume with id --... was not found and the system
automatically reboots.  This seems to happen for all volumes, not just
the ones I changed.  This error even happens for a separate volume
group (called 'extended') that is on a separate set of disks and was
existing prior to the CentOS 5 install.

Any idea on some step I missed?  I know things are still fine on the
disks, as when I boot with the CentOS DVD with the 'linux rescue'
option all RAID & LVM volumes are available for use.  So from this it
seems I need to update some CentOS config file?

Here are some config files:
http://pastebin.com/m6d5075dc

Thanks!
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Re: [CentOS] RAID + LVM Addition to CentOS 5 Install

2007-09-04 Thread Alain Spineux
Hi
You have all the history of your lvm volumes in /etc/lvm/archive|backup
search for the missing id in the archive to understand what append !

Does raid synchronization was ended before your have created your new
PV or before to reboot. It should not change anything, but just an
idea.


On 9/4/07, Nick Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I have what I believe to be a pretty basic LVM & RAID setup on my
> CentOS 5 machine:
>
> Raid Partitions:
> /dev/sda1,sdb1
> /dev/sda2,sdb2
> /dev/sda3,sdb3
>
> During the install I created a RAID 1 volume md0 out of sda1,sdb1 for
> the boot partition and then added sda2,sdb2 to a separate RAID 1
> volume as well (md1).  I then setup md1 as a LVM physical volume for
> volume group 'system'.  I left the sda3,sdb3 partitions available for
> future use.
>
> Next I created swap, /, /usr, /var, etc. logical volumes in the system
> volume group and continued with this install as normal.  Everything
> went fine.  I was able to use the system, reboot, etc., without
> problems.
>
> I then discovered that I needed more space in my /var volume than was
> available in the system volume group.  So, I created another RAID
> device, /dev/md2 (using sda3,sdb3), and created an LVM physical volume
> on top of that.  Finally, I extended the system physical volume to
> contain this new physical volume and expanded the size of the /var
> volume.
>
> This worked fine, but on reboot I get a ton of errors from LVM saying
> that volume with id --... was not found and the system
> automatically reboots.  This seems to happen for all volumes, not just
> the ones I changed.  This error even happens for a separate volume
> group (called 'extended') that is on a separate set of disks and was
> existing prior to the CentOS 5 install.
>
> Any idea on some step I missed?  I know things are still fine on the
> disks, as when I boot with the CentOS DVD with the 'linux rescue'
> option all RAID & LVM volumes are available for use.  So from this it
> seems I need to update some CentOS config file?
>
> Here are some config files:
> http://pastebin.com/m6d5075dc
>
> Thanks!
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RE: [CentOS] RAID + LVM Addition to CentOS 5 Install

2007-09-04 Thread Ross S. W. Walker
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Webb
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I have what I believe to be a pretty basic LVM & RAID setup on my
> CentOS 5 machine:
> 
> Raid Partitions:
> /dev/sda1,sdb1
> /dev/sda2,sdb2
> /dev/sda3,sdb3
> 
> During the install I created a RAID 1 volume md0 out of sda1,sdb1 for
> the boot partition and then added sda2,sdb2 to a separate RAID 1
> volume as well (md1).  I then setup md1 as a LVM physical volume for
> volume group 'system'.  I left the sda3,sdb3 partitions available for
> future use.
> 
> Next I created swap, /, /usr, /var, etc. logical volumes in the system
> volume group and continued with this install as normal.  Everything
> went fine.  I was able to use the system, reboot, etc., without
> problems.
> 
> I then discovered that I needed more space in my /var volume than was
> available in the system volume group.  So, I created another RAID
> device, /dev/md2 (using sda3,sdb3), and created an LVM physical volume
> on top of that.  Finally, I extended the system physical volume to
> contain this new physical volume and expanded the size of the /var
> volume.
> 
> This worked fine, but on reboot I get a ton of errors from LVM saying
> that volume with id --... was not found and the system
> automatically reboots.  This seems to happen for all volumes, not just
> the ones I changed.  This error even happens for a separate volume
> group (called 'extended') that is on a separate set of disks and was
> existing prior to the CentOS 5 install.
> 
> Any idea on some step I missed?  I know things are still fine on the
> disks, as when I boot with the CentOS DVD with the 'linux rescue'
> option all RAID & LVM volumes are available for use.  So from this it
> seems I need to update some CentOS config file?
> 
> Here are some config files:
> http://pastebin.com/m6d5075dc

Did you PV /dev/sda3 and /dev/sdb3 instead of /dev/md2 either before or
after the RAID set was created?

-Ross

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Re: [CentOS] RAID + LVM Addition to CentOS 5 Install

2007-09-04 Thread Nick Webb
On 9/4/07, Ross S. W. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Webb
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I have what I believe to be a pretty basic LVM & RAID setup on my
> > CentOS 5 machine:
> >
> > Raid Partitions:
> > /dev/sda1,sdb1
> > /dev/sda2,sdb2
> > /dev/sda3,sdb3
> >
> > During the install I created a RAID 1 volume md0 out of sda1,sdb1 for
> > the boot partition and then added sda2,sdb2 to a separate RAID 1
> > volume as well (md1).  I then setup md1 as a LVM physical volume for
> > volume group 'system'.  I left the sda3,sdb3 partitions available for
> > future use.
> >
> > Next I created swap, /, /usr, /var, etc. logical volumes in the system
> > volume group and continued with this install as normal.  Everything
> > went fine.  I was able to use the system, reboot, etc., without
> > problems.
> >
> > I then discovered that I needed more space in my /var volume than was
> > available in the system volume group.  So, I created another RAID
> > device, /dev/md2 (using sda3,sdb3), and created an LVM physical volume
> > on top of that.  Finally, I extended the system physical volume to
> > contain this new physical volume and expanded the size of the /var
> > volume.
> >
> > This worked fine, but on reboot I get a ton of errors from LVM saying
> > that volume with id --... was not found and the system
> > automatically reboots.  This seems to happen for all volumes, not just
> > the ones I changed.  This error even happens for a separate volume
> > group (called 'extended') that is on a separate set of disks and was
> > existing prior to the CentOS 5 install.
> >
> > Any idea on some step I missed?  I know things are still fine on the
> > disks, as when I boot with the CentOS DVD with the 'linux rescue'
> > option all RAID & LVM volumes are available for use.  So from this it
> > seems I need to update some CentOS config file?
> >
> > Here are some config files:
> > http://pastebin.com/m6d5075dc
>
> Did you PV /dev/sda3 and /dev/sdb3 instead of /dev/md2 either before or
> after the RAID set was created?
>
> -Ross

I don't think so, the partition types are 'fd' and if I boot from the
rescue CD, everything seems to be working fine.

sh-3.1# fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 18.2 GB, 18210036736 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2213 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *   1  32  257008+  fd  Linux raid autodetect
/dev/sda2  331122 8755425   fd  Linux raid autodetect
/dev/sda311232213 8763457+  fd  Linux raid autodetect

Disk /dev/sdb: 18.2 GB, 18210036736 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2213 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdb1   *   1  32  257008+  fd  Linux raid autodetect
/dev/sdb2  331122 8755425   fd  Linux raid autodetect
/dev/sdb311232213 8763457+  fd  Linux raid autodetect

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Re: [CentOS] RAID + LVM Addition to CentOS 5 Install

2007-09-04 Thread Nick Webb
Hi Alain,

On 9/4/07, Alain Spineux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
> You have all the history of your lvm volumes in /etc/lvm/archive|backup
> search for the missing id in the archive to understand what append !
>
> Does raid synchronization was ended before your have created your new
> PV or before to reboot. It should not change anything, but just an
> idea.

I will check that.  I found those files before, but had no direction on them.

Anyone have an idea on how to capture the output of LVM on boot?  It
goes by pretty fast then reboots, I have only 1 or 2 seconds to write
it down before it reboots.  Took me 2 or 3 reboots just to get the
gist of the message last time.

I've tried using a serial console (append options to grub:
console=tty0 console=ttyS0,38400), but the errors don't show up on the
serial console only on the real console.  If I could get it to output
to the serial console, it would be much easier to track down the
volumes with errors.

Nick

>
>
> On 9/4/07, Nick Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I have what I believe to be a pretty basic LVM & RAID setup on my
> > CentOS 5 machine:
> >
> > Raid Partitions:
> > /dev/sda1,sdb1
> > /dev/sda2,sdb2
> > /dev/sda3,sdb3
> >
> > During the install I created a RAID 1 volume md0 out of sda1,sdb1 for
> > the boot partition and then added sda2,sdb2 to a separate RAID 1
> > volume as well (md1).  I then setup md1 as a LVM physical volume for
> > volume group 'system'.  I left the sda3,sdb3 partitions available for
> > future use.
> >
> > Next I created swap, /, /usr, /var, etc. logical volumes in the system
> > volume group and continued with this install as normal.  Everything
> > went fine.  I was able to use the system, reboot, etc., without
> > problems.
> >
> > I then discovered that I needed more space in my /var volume than was
> > available in the system volume group.  So, I created another RAID
> > device, /dev/md2 (using sda3,sdb3), and created an LVM physical volume
> > on top of that.  Finally, I extended the system physical volume to
> > contain this new physical volume and expanded the size of the /var
> > volume.
> >
> > This worked fine, but on reboot I get a ton of errors from LVM saying
> > that volume with id --... was not found and the system
> > automatically reboots.  This seems to happen for all volumes, not just
> > the ones I changed.  This error even happens for a separate volume
> > group (called 'extended') that is on a separate set of disks and was
> > existing prior to the CentOS 5 install.
> >
> > Any idea on some step I missed?  I know things are still fine on the
> > disks, as when I boot with the CentOS DVD with the 'linux rescue'
> > option all RAID & LVM volumes are available for use.  So from this it
> > seems I need to update some CentOS config file?
> >
> > Here are some config files:
> > http://pastebin.com/m6d5075dc
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Nick
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Re: [CentOS] RAID + LVM Addition to CentOS 5 Install

2007-09-04 Thread Shad L. Lords

This worked fine, but on reboot I get a ton of errors from LVM saying
that volume with id --... was not found and the system
automatically reboots.  This seems to happen for all volumes, not just
the ones I changed.  This error even happens for a separate volume
group (called 'extended') that is on a separate set of disks and was
existing prior to the CentOS 5 install.

Any idea on some step I missed?  I know things are still fine on the
disks, as when I boot with the CentOS DVD with the 'linux rescue'
option all RAID & LVM volumes are available for use.  So from this it
seems I need to update some CentOS config file?


Did you re-create the initrd after adding the new raid group?  Not 100% 
about this but my guess would be that the initrd isn't starting md2 and thus 
can't find the pv on that raid device.


-Shad 


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Re: [CentOS] RAID + LVM Addition to CentOS 5 Install

2007-09-04 Thread Nick Webb
On 9/4/07, Nick Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 9/4/07, Shad L. Lords <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > This worked fine, but on reboot I get a ton of errors from LVM saying
> > > that volume with id --... was not found and the system
> > > automatically reboots.  This seems to happen for all volumes, not just
> > > the ones I changed.  This error even happens for a separate volume
> > > group (called 'extended') that is on a separate set of disks and was
> > > existing prior to the CentOS 5 install.
> > >
> > > Any idea on some step I missed?  I know things are still fine on the
> > > disks, as when I boot with the CentOS DVD with the 'linux rescue'
> > > option all RAID & LVM volumes are available for use.  So from this it
> > > seems I need to update some CentOS config file?
> >
> > Did you re-create the initrd after adding the new raid group?  Not 100%
> > about this but my guess would be that the initrd isn't starting md2 and thus
> > can't find the pv on that raid device.
> >
> > -Shad
>
Hi Shad,

That solved it!

Thanks so much for the help.  Awesome group on here, BTW, 4 responses
within a hour or two of my post, and a solution!

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Re: [CentOS] Performance Issues

2007-09-04 Thread Joshua Baker-LePain

On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 at 8:11am, Dan Dansereau wrote


We have a DELL6850 with 8Gbytes of memory,  four 3.2Ghz CPU's , perc 4
raid controller, with fourteen 300Gbyte 10Krpm disk on a powervault
220s, And a powervault 124T  LTO-3 tape systems on a separate
160Mbyte/sec adaptec SCSI card.


Which card and driver?  ISTR folks having issues with adaptec cards and 
LTO3 drives.  Might you have a spare LSI SCSI card (ultra320, preferably) 
about that you could test with?



The disks are configured as two 2Tbyte raid 0 partitions using the perc
4 hardware.

The problem is - reading from the disk, and writing to the tape is
pathetically slow.
The specs say I should get around 80Mbyte/second - in reality - is about
500 Kbytes/second


Have you benchmarked the disks to make sure you get decent performance out 
of them?



Writing just to tape, using /dev/zero as input and dd to write, I can
get up to 60Mybte/second, indicating that the tape drive and scsi card
is functional from a hardware perspective. Since I can read and write
data to the disks - I assume that they are functional.
The files are 80Mybtes for the minimum size that I am writing to tape.


80MB total or lots of 80MB files?  If the former, you really need to test 
with, IMO, at least 2X RAM (preferably 4X) sized data to get a reliable 
speed estimate.



Is there a standard disk / tape IO test package that could test the
speed/performance of the disks and /or tapes?


bonnie++ is somewhat standard for testing disk sequential read/write 
speeds.


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Department of Biomedical Engineering
Duke University
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Re: [CentOS] recompiling httpd

2007-09-04 Thread Matthias Leopold

Akemi Yagi schrieb:

On 9/3/07, Matthias Leopold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

sorry, centos version is 5.

problem appears with
httpd-2.2.3-6.el5.centos.1.src.rpm and
httpd-2.2.3-7.el5.centos.src.rpm (updates)

Matthias Leopold schrieb:

hi,

i'm trying to recompile the httpd rpm on a x86_64 system. all i've
changed in the spec file is the "--with-suexec-docroot" configure
option. the error message i get from the "rpmbuild -ba SPECS/httpd.spec"
command is "ln: creating symbolic link
`/var/tmp/httpd-root/etc/httpd/logs' to `../../usr/var/log/httpd': No
such file or directory". so what do i do now?


If you do not make any changes, does it compile normally?  And if that
is the case, what did you change the "--with-suexec-docroot" to?

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i get the same error with the original spec file

matthias

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Re: [CentOS] recompiling httpd

2007-09-04 Thread Jim Perrin
On 9/4/07, Matthias Leopold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> i get the same error with the original spec file

How is the build environment configured?
Does this box have any i386/i686 packages on it, or is it entirely x86_64?

I can assure you that the original src.rpm as we ship it builds just
fine in a proper environment.

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Re: [CentOS] recompiling httpd

2007-09-04 Thread Akemi Yagi
On 9/4/07, Jim Perrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 9/4/07, Matthias Leopold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > i get the same error with the original spec file
>
> How is the build environment configured?
> Does this box have any i386/i686 packages on it, or is it entirely x86_64?
>
> I can assure you that the original src.rpm as we ship it builds just
> fine in a proper environment.

In fact, I was able to build it using the original spec on my x86_64
machine. I have nearly 300 i386 packages on it.

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Re: [CentOS] recompiling httpd

2007-09-04 Thread Matthias Leopold

Jim Perrin schrieb:

On 9/4/07, Matthias Leopold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


i get the same error with the original spec file


How is the build environment configured?
Does this box have any i386/i686 packages on it, or is it entirely x86_64?

I can assure you that the original src.rpm as we ship it builds just
fine in a proper environment.

removing all i386|i686 rpms (including hp management software...) 
doesn't make a difference, for better debugging i'll post the last few 
lines before the build stops (german locale error messages are irrelevant)


+ install -m 644 /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES/centos_index.html 
/var/tmp/httpd-root/var/www/error/noindex.html
+ find /var/tmp/httpd-root/var/www/manual '(' -name '*.xml' -o -name 
'*.xml.*' -o -name '*.ent' -o -name '*.xsl' -o -name '*.dtd' ')' -print0

+ xargs -0 rm -f
+ set +x
+ rmdir /var/tmp/httpd-root/usr/etc/httpd/logs
+ mkdir -p /var/tmp/httpd-root/usr/var/log/httpd
+ ln -s ../../usr/var/log/httpd /var/tmp/httpd-root/etc/httpd/logs
ln: Erzeugen der symbolischen Verknüpfung 
„/var/tmp/httpd-root/etc/httpd/logs“ zu „../../usr/var/log/httpd“: Datei 
oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden

Fehler: Fehler-Status beim Beenden von /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.98951 (%install)


since i don't know a lot about building rpms i'll post the output of 
"rpmbuild --showrc" (which wasn't modified at all), hope it's not to long...


# rpmbuild --showrc
ARCHITECTURE AND OS:
build arch: x86_64
compatible build archs: ia32e x86_64 noarch
build os  : Linux
compatible build os's : linux
install arch  : ia32e
install os: Linux
compatible archs  : ia32e x86_64 athlon noarch amd64 i686 i586 i486 
i386 fat

compatible os's   : linux

RPMRC VALUES:
macrofiles: 
/usr/lib/rpm/macros:/usr/lib/rpm/ia32e-linux/macros:/etc/rpm/macros.*:/etc/rpm/macros:/etc/rpm/ia32e-linux/macros:~/.rpmmacros

optflags  : -O2 -g

Features supported by rpmlib:
rpmlib(VersionedDependencies) = 3.0.3-1
PreReq:, Provides:, and Obsoletes: dependencies support versions.
rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) = 3.0.4-1
file name(s) stored as (dirName,baseName,dirIndex) tuple, not 
as path.

rpmlib(PayloadIsBzip2) = 3.0.5-1
package payload can be compressed using bzip2.
rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) = 4.0-1
package payload file(s) have "./" prefix.
rpmlib(ExplicitPackageProvide) = 4.0-1
package name-version-release is not implicitly provided.
rpmlib(HeaderLoadSortsTags) = 4.0.1-1
header tags are always sorted after being loaded.
rpmlib(ScriptletInterpreterArgs) = 4.0.3-1
the scriptlet interpreter can use arguments from header.
rpmlib(PartialHardlinkSets) = 4.0.4-1
a hardlink file set may be installed without being complete.
rpmlib(ConcurrentAccess) = 4.1-1
package scriptlets may access the rpm database while installing.
rpmlib(BuiltinLuaScripts) = 4.2.2-1
internal support for lua scripts.


-14: GNUconfigure(MCs:)
  CFLAGS="${CFLAGS:-%optflags}" ; export CFLAGS;
  LDFLAGS="${LDFLAGS:-%{-s:-s}}"  ; export LDFLAGS;
  %{-C:_mydir="`pwd`"; %{-M: %{__mkdir} -p %{-C*};} cd %{-C*}}
  dirs="`find ${_mydir} -name configure.in -print`"; export dirs;
for coin in `echo ${dirs}`
do
  dr=`dirname ${coin}`;
if test -f ${dr}/NO-AUTO-GEN; then
 :
else
 macrodirs=`sed -n -e 's,AM_ACLOCAL_INCLUDE((.*)),1,gp' < ${coin}`;
( cd ${dr};
  aclocalinclude="${ACLOCAL_FLAGS}";
  for k in ${macrodirs}; do
if test -d ${k}; then
  aclocalinclude="${aclocalinclude} -I ${k}";
##else
##  echo "**Warning**: No such directory `${k}'.  Ignored."
fi
  done
  if grep "^AM_GNU_GETTEXT" configure.in >/dev/null; then
if grep "sed.*POTFILES" configure.in >/dev/null; then
  : do nothing -- we still have an old unmodified configure.in
else
  test -r ${dr}/aclocal.m4 || touch ${dr}/aclocal.m4;
  echo "no" | gettextize --force --copy;
  test -r ${dr}/aclocal.m4 && %{__chmod} u+w ${dr}/aclocal.m4;
fi
  fi
  if grep "^AM_PROG_LIBTOOL" configure.in >/dev/null; then
%{__libtoolize} --force --copy;
  fi
  aclocal ${aclocalinclude};
  if grep "^AM_CONFIG_HEADER" configure.in >/dev/null; then
%{__autoheader};
  fi
  echo "Running automake --gnu ${am_opt} ...";
  %{__automake} --add-missing --gnu ${am_opt};
  %{__autoconf};
);
  fi
done
  %{-C:${_mydir}}%{!-C:.}/configure %{_target_platform} 
--prefix=%{_prefix} --exec-prefix=%{_exec_prefix} --bindir=%{_bindir} 
--sbindir=%{_sbindir} --sysconfdir=%{_sysconfdir} --datadir=%{_datadir} 
--includedir=%{_includedir} --libdir=%{_libdir} 
--libexecdir=%{_libexecdir} --localstatedir=%{_localstatedir} 
--sharedstatedir=%{_sharedstatedir} --mandir=%{_mandir} 
--infodir=%{_infodir} %* ;

  %{-C:cd ${_mydir}; unset _mydir}
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[CentOS] SysVinit guidance, please

2007-09-04 Thread Robert
I have experienced a couple of power failures since installing CentOS 5, 
both while I was working on the system.  The first time, several weeks 
ago, I thought there was some "feature" that I had never seen before but 
couldn't really put my finger on it.  The power came back on after a few 
seconds and I never missed a beat.  I also shrewdly forgot about the 
anomaly that I had almost noticed.


I had a real power failure 2 days ago and tried to be more observant.  
What had gotten my attention earlier is that the once-familiar banner 
displayed on about everything except my room's ceiling was missing.


After some red herrings and blind alleys (hey, you don't have to worry 
about mixed metaphors when you're an illiterate old coot!) I decided 
that the missing banners and the fact that the power was killed while a 
graphical page was displayed was what I saw.


Anyhow, it seems that these extinct banners were a function of the 
/bin/shutdown routine in SysVinit because banners happen in CentOS 4.x 
whether the shutdown command is issued by fingers or by a UPS monitoring 
daemon.  And I have since found that they're gone from CentOS 5, no 
matter how shutdown is invoked.   

After all of this, my question boils down to one of replacing the 
current SysVinit package, SysVinit-2.86-14.i386.rpm  with the one from 
CentOS 4.x, SysVinit-2.85-34.3.i386.rpm

Would that be courting disaster?







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[CentOS] dvb modules not in CentOS plus kernel for target=i686

2007-09-04 Thread Tony
I'm just trying to setup my hauppauge nova-T freeview card under
Centos 5. It works on the same hardware under CentOS 4.x using the
CentOS plus kernel.  Having installed the latest CentOS Plus kernel
for CentOS 5.0 (2.6.18-8.1.8.el5.centos.plus) I've found that various
kernel modules are missing- specifically dvb_core cx88_dvb and cx22702
that were used by my system under CentOS 4.x

I've downloaded the srpm and had a bit of a hack. I note with interest
that the source file kernel-2.6.18-i686.config has the line "#
CONFIG_DVB is not set" whereas in kernel-2.6.18-ia64.config it is
switched on: with CONFIG_DVB=y and there is also
CONFIG_VIDEO_CX88_DVB=m amongst various other references to DVB in
there.

Does anyone know the background to this- do the DVB modules fail to
build under i686 and are therefore deliberately turned off?  I guess I
may have a hack at the config file and then leave my machine to do
some serious rpm building.

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Re: [CentOS] shrink LV with ext3 filesystem

2007-09-04 Thread Thomas Antony


 Is it possible that i log into the server with ssh and umount only /var and 
 then resize the logical volume?


Yes, but you'll have to stop a lot of daemons and other processes that
run with files opened in /var.

You can find the processes accessing /var with lsof or fuser:
# fuser -mv /var
# lsof /var



I stopped all services except sshd and fuser and lsof doesn't show me 
any files, but i still can't unmount /var :-(


# umount /var
umount: /var: device is busy
umount: /var: device is busy

Ayn ideas?


Thomas
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RE: [CentOS] shrink LV with ext3 filesystem

2007-09-04 Thread Ross S. W. Walker
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Antony
> 
> >>  Is it possible that i log into the server with ssh and 
> umount only /var and 
> >>  then resize the logical volume?
> > 
> > Yes, but you'll have to stop a lot of daemons and other 
> processes that
> > run with files opened in /var.
> > 
> > You can find the processes accessing /var with lsof or fuser:
> > # fuser -mv /var
> > # lsof /var
> 
> 
> I stopped all services except sshd and fuser and lsof doesn't show me 
> any files, but i still can't unmount /var :-(
> 
> # umount /var
> umount: /var: device is busy
> umount: /var: device is busy
> 
> Ayn ideas?

/var is required for multi-user mode.

Try bringing the system to single-user mode 'init 1' and then try it.

-Ross

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Re: [CentOS] shrink LV with ext3 filesystem

2007-09-04 Thread Thomas Antony




/var is required for multi-user mode.

Try bringing the system to single-user mode 'init 1' and then try it.

-Ross



Hi.

single-user mode is a problem because i don't have physical access to 
the server

I will try to get some remote hands.
Thank you everybody for your help!

kind regards,
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[CentOS] CPAN error

2007-09-04 Thread Mark Quitoriano
Hi all im not sure if this is the right mailing list but im using centos
anyway. i run CPAN by perl -MCPAN -e shell and got through  the first time
configuration and after selecting the mirror sites i got this error and i
can't get any modules to be installed. I haven't encountered this before and
not very familiar with cpan.



Constant subroutine __USE_POSIX undefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/features.ph line 8, 
line 33.
Constant subroutine __USE_POSIX2 undefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/features.ph line 9, 
line 33.
Constant subroutine __USE_POSIX199309 undefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/features.ph line 10, 
line 33.
Constant subroutine __USE_POSIX199506 undefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/features.ph line 11, 
line 33.
Constant subroutine __USE_XOPEN undefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/features.ph line 12, 
line 33.
Constant subroutine __USE_XOPEN_EXTENDED undefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/features.ph line 13, 
line 33.
Constant subroutine __USE_UNIX98 undefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/features.ph line 14, 
line 33.
Constant subroutine __USE_LARGEFILE undefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/features.ph line 16, 
line 33.
Constant subroutine __USE_LARGEFILE64 undefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/features.ph line 17, 
line 33.
Constant subroutine __USE_FILE_OFFSET64 undefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/features.ph line 18, 
line 33.
Constant subroutine __USE_BSD undefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/features.ph line 19, 
line 33.
Constant subroutine __USE_SVID undefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/features.ph line 20, 
line 33.
Constant subroutine __USE_MISC undefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/features.ph line 21, 
line 33.
Constant subroutine __USE_GNU undefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/features.ph line 22, 
line 33.
Constant subroutine __USE_REENTRANT undefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/features.ph line 23, 
line 33.
Constant subroutine _POSIX_SOURCE undefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/features.ph line 48, 
line 33.
Constant subroutine _POSIX_C_SOURCE undefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/features.ph line 50, 
line 33.
Constant subroutine _XOPEN_SOURCE undefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/features.ph line 52, 
line 33.
Constant subroutine _XOPEN_SOURCE_EXTENDED undefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/features.ph line 54, 
line 33.
Constant subroutine _LARGEFILE64_SOURCE undefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/features.ph line 56, 
line 33.
Constant subroutine _LARGEFILE_SOURCE undefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/features.ph line 98, 
line 33.
Constant subroutine __USE_ISOC99 undefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/features.ph line 102, 
line 33.
Constant subroutine __GNU_LIBRARY__ undefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/features.ph line 147, 
line 33.

cpan shell -- CPAN exploration and modules installation (v1.7602)
ReadLine support enabled


Can't ioctl TIOCGETP: Invalid argument
Consider installing Term::ReadKey from CPAN site nearby
at http://www.perl.com/CPAN
Or use
perl -MCPAN -e shell
to reach CPAN. Falling back to 'stty'.
If you do not want to see this warning, set PERL_READLINE_NOWARN
in your environment.
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[CentOS] NIS/Samba update

2007-09-04 Thread Scott Ehrlich
My test setup consists of Enterprise 5 server running NIS and Samba, and 
dual-boot XP and CentOS 5 clients.


On my test setup, I'm able to create new samba accounts and change samba 
passwords with no problems.


NIS still gives me problems, though.  I am unable to change passwords no 
matter what.  Also, ypwhich on the client returns localhost.


I have reviewed everything, including configs of other networks that are 
live, and cannot figure out where the problem is.


I believe that once I can password changed effortlessly on the NIS side, I 
can implement this on the live system.  Until NIS account passwords can be 
changed at-will, this setup won't go to production.


So, what might I be missing?   Why can't I change passwords?

Also, what would cause the client, when issued ypcat passwd, to not show 
the newer accounts create by the server, even after a /var/yp make has 
been issued?


Both client and server have been rebooted many times.

Thanks.

Scott
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Re: [CentOS] CPAN error

2007-09-04 Thread Jim Perrin
On 9/4/07, Mark Quitoriano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all im not sure if this is the right mailing list but im using centos
> anyway. i run CPAN by perl -MCPAN -e shell and got through  the first time
> configuration and after selecting the mirror sites i got this error and i
> can't get any modules to be installed. I haven't encountered this before and
> not very familiar with cpan.

CPAN is a horrible way to install software on a centos box, as it
completely bypasses the package management system. Because of this,
you can end up with unmet dependencies when things are really
installed, centos updates to perl may break because cpan updated a
core component, etc.

Mostly, just don't do it. Use rpmforge or other 3rd party repositories
to install perl modules.

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Re: [CentOS] recompiling httpd

2007-09-04 Thread Akemi Yagi
On 9/4/07, Matthias Leopold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> removing all i386|i686 rpms (including hp management software...)
> doesn't make a difference, for better debugging i'll post the last few
> lines before the build stops (german locale error messages are irrelevant)
>
> + install -m 644 /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES/centos_index.html
> /var/tmp/httpd-root/var/www/error/noindex.html
> + find /var/tmp/httpd-root/var/www/manual '(' -name '*.xml' -o -name
> '*.xml.*' -o -name '*.ent' -o -name '*.xsl' -o -name '*.dtd' ')' -print0
> + xargs -0 rm -f
> + set +x
> + rmdir /var/tmp/httpd-root/usr/etc/httpd/logs
> + mkdir -p /var/tmp/httpd-root/usr/var/log/httpd
> + ln -s ../../usr/var/log/httpd /var/tmp/httpd-root/etc/httpd/logs
> ln: Erzeugen der symbolischen Verknüpfung
> „/var/tmp/httpd-root/etc/httpd/logs" zu „../../usr/var/log/httpd": Datei
> oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
> Fehler: Fehler-Status beim Beenden von /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.98951 (%install)

The only difference I find between your log and mine of this
particular part is that I am building in my own directory.  You are
probably doing this as root as judged from the
/usr/src/redhat/SOURCES directory.  Although that should not cause the
error you are getting, it is dangerous to do building as root (general
advice).

Akemi
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RE: [CentOS] CPAN error

2007-09-04 Thread Dan Dansereau

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jim Perrin
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 1:13 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] CPAN error

On 9/4/07, Mark Quitoriano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all im not sure if this is the right mailing list but im using
centos
> anyway. i run CPAN by perl -MCPAN -e shell and got through  the first
time
> configuration and after selecting the mirror sites i got this error
and i
> can't get any modules to be installed. I haven't encountered this
before and
> not very familiar with cpan.

CPAN is a horrible way to install software on a centos box, as it
completely bypasses the package management system. Because of this,
you can end up with unmet dependencies when things are really
installed, centos updates to perl may break because cpan updated a
core component, etc.

Mostly, just don't do it. Use rpmforge or other 3rd party repositories
to install perl modules.

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revolutionary act.
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Is this true for adding perl components not in CENTOS??
If so - what is your correct way to add a package ?
Dan

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Re: [CentOS] CPAN error

2007-09-04 Thread Jim Perrin
On 9/4/07, Dan Dansereau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is this true for adding perl components not in CENTOS??
> If so - what is your correct way to add a package ?
> Dan

Yes. Use rpmforge or kbs for perl modules which aren't included in the
base distro. See wiki.centos.org/Repositories for details.


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Re: [CentOS] shrink LV with ext3 filesystem

2007-09-04 Thread Luciano Rocha
On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 08:18:18PM +0200, Thomas Antony wrote:
> 
> >>  Is it possible that i log into the server with ssh and umount only /var 
> >> and  then resize the logical volume?
> > Yes, but you'll have to stop a lot of daemons and other processes that
> > run with files opened in /var.
> > You can find the processes accessing /var with lsof or fuser:
> > # fuser -mv /var
> > # lsof /var
> 
> 
>  I stopped all services except sshd and fuser and lsof doesn't show me any 
>  files, but i still can't unmount /var :-(
> 
>  # umount /var
>  umount: /var: device is busy
>  umount: /var: device is busy
> 
>  Ayn ideas?

Are you using chrooted BIND?

Do a cat /proc/mounts, search for var, and unmount anything in use.

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[CentOS] rootpw and graphical mode?

2007-09-04 Thread semi linux
Is there some kind of caveat to using the rootpw --iscrypted directive
and then specifying a graphical install?

I always seem to get the prompt coming up...
If I remove the graphical and do a text install, it works fine and if
I remove the --iscrypted  and put a plain-text password in there, it
works as well.

Any suggestions?

- G
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[CentOS] Re: rootpw and graphical mode?

2007-09-04 Thread semi linux
Sorry, should have specified - I'm using kickstart to load my machine(s).

On 9/4/07, semi linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there some kind of caveat to using the rootpw --iscrypted directive
> and then specifying a graphical install?
>
> I always seem to get the prompt coming up...
> If I remove the graphical and do a text install, it works fine and if
> I remove the --iscrypted  and put a plain-text password in there, it
> works as well.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> - G
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Re: [CentOS] shrink LV with ext3 filesystem

2007-09-04 Thread Thomas Antony


 # umount /var
 umount: /var: device is busy
 umount: /var: device is busy

 Ayn ideas?


Are you using chrooted BIND?

Do a cat /proc/mounts, search for var, and unmount anything in use.


# cat /proc/mounts | grep var
/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol02 /var ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0

I can't unmount var.
I think it is like Ross already wrote, that /var can't be unmounted in 
multi-user mode.
It would be nice if someone could explain why /var is unmountable, even 
when "fuser -mv /var" and "/lsof /var" doesn't return any files.



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RE: [CentOS] Hard-set network via ifup scripts...

2007-09-04 Thread Robert - elists
> 
> Anyone know off the top of their head the "right" way to hard set a
> link automatically to 100Mbps Full Duplex, etc using the ifup or ifcfg
> files?
> 
> Don't see options in the scripts that might cover this, but maybe
> there's a more elegant way to do it than to do something in rc.local or
> hack up the ifup files myself...
> 
> Ray

Ray,

this in what we put in the /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 or
other similar files

ETHTOOL_OPTS="speed 100 duplex full autoneg off"

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Re: [CentOS] Hard-set network via ifup scripts...

2007-09-04 Thread Les Mikesell

Ray Van Dolson wrote:

Anyone know off the top of their head the "right" way to hard set a
link automatically to 100Mbps Full Duplex, etc using the ifup or ifcfg
files?

Don't see options in the scripts that might cover this, but maybe
there's a more elegant way to do it than to do something in rc.local or
hack up the ifup files myself...


You can add a line like:

ETHTOOL_OPTS="speed 100 duplex full autoneg off"

to the /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth? files.  But note that 
if you hard set one side of a link you must do the same on the other 
(switch) side or it will take the lack of negotiation to mean that it 
must assume half duplex.


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[CentOS] Hard-set network via ifup scripts...

2007-09-04 Thread Ray Van Dolson
Anyone know off the top of their head the "right" way to hard set a
link automatically to 100Mbps Full Duplex, etc using the ifup or ifcfg
files?

Don't see options in the scripts that might cover this, but maybe
there's a more elegant way to do it than to do something in rc.local or
hack up the ifup files myself...

Ray
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[CentOS] X11 virtual screens on centos 5

2007-09-04 Thread Jerry Geis
When the you select an X11 virtual screen (1 of 4) with the mouse on 
default centos 5

what command gets executed to show screen 1, screen 2 etc...

Basically, I want to have a command or know the command
to execute to show the desired virtual X11 screen.

Thanks,

Jerry

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[CentOS] CPAN Question

2007-09-04 Thread Al Sparks
Maybe a little off-topic.  But using cpan, I tried to install 
IO::Compress::Base 2.006.

I already had 2.005 installed.  For the life of me, I couldn't get it to 
upgrade.

It finally occurred to me to download the ".tgz" file, and install it that way.
That worked.

But does anyone have any hints on how to force cpan to upgrade?  I even tried
the "upgrade" command, and that didn't work.
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Re: [CentOS] CPAN Question

2007-09-04 Thread Jim Perrin
On 9/4/07, Al Sparks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maybe a little off-topic.  But using cpan, I tried to install 
> IO::Compress::Base 2.006.
>
> I already had 2.005 installed.  For the life of me, I couldn't get it to 
> upgrade.
>
> It finally occurred to me to download the ".tgz" file, and install it that 
> way.
> That worked.
>
> But does anyone have any hints on how to force cpan to upgrade?  I even tried
> the "upgrade" command, and that didn't work.

You're going to make me drag out my soap box, broken record, and dead
horse aren't you

CPAN is bad on systems with package management like centos. The reason
is because cpan doesn't inform the package management utility that
it's installed anything. CPAN can also upgrade chunks of code which
are provided by the perl rpm shipped by centos.

This may not seem like a big deal until you attempt to install a
package which requires a perl module you installed via cpan and yum or
rpm tells you that it's not installed. Your options here are to force
the installation, or install a copy via yum/rpm. This will result in
either a code conflict, or multiple copies of something on your
system. Either way things can slowly snowball and go wrong.

The best method for installing perl modules is via package management.
3rd party repositories like RPMForge have dozens of perl modules which
plug right into the centos perl packages and work like a champ. If all
else fails and you can't find the particular perl module you need via
one of these repositories, you should use cpan2rpm, or another
packaging utility to create an rpm suitable for your system.

Using package management features like this gives you reliability (you
can install the package on multiple machines instead of hoping it
builds identically on each one), and a 'paper trail' to follow for
what's on your system (you can query rpm to see where a file is or
what package owns it instead of guessing) and best of all, you can
easily remove something without resorting to 'find /somepath -name
something | xargs rm'  or some other hack.

Let your package manager do the heavy lifting.


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Re: [CentOS] Re: rootpw and graphical mode?

2007-09-04 Thread Jeremy Rosengren

semi linux wrote:

Sorry, should have specified - I'm using kickstart to load my machine(s).

On 9/4/07, semi linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

Is there some kind of caveat to using the rootpw --iscrypted directive
and then specifying a graphical install?

I always seem to get the prompt coming up...
If I remove the graphical and do a text install, it works fine and if
I remove the --iscrypted  and put a plain-text password in there, it
works as well.

Any suggestions?

- G



If you're installing via kickstart, why do you need graphical mode?

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Re: [CentOS] CPAN Question

2007-09-04 Thread Gary Richardson
The alternative that I prefer is to install a custom perl for your
application in another location (like /opt/bin). This keeps it separate from
your system perl, so your os patches work fine and patching won't break your
application.

On 9/4/07, Jim Perrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 9/4/07, Al Sparks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Maybe a little off-topic.  But using cpan, I tried to install
> IO::Compress::Base 2.006.
> >
> > I already had 2.005 installed.  For the life of me, I couldn't get it to
> upgrade.
> >
> > It finally occurred to me to download the ".tgz" file, and install it
> that way.
> > That worked.
> >
> > But does anyone have any hints on how to force cpan to upgrade?  I even
> tried
> > the "upgrade" command, and that didn't work.
>
> You're going to make me drag out my soap box, broken record, and dead
> horse aren't you
>
> CPAN is bad on systems with package management like centos. The reason
> is because cpan doesn't inform the package management utility that
> it's installed anything. CPAN can also upgrade chunks of code which
> are provided by the perl rpm shipped by centos.
>
> This may not seem like a big deal until you attempt to install a
> package which requires a perl module you installed via cpan and yum or
> rpm tells you that it's not installed. Your options here are to force
> the installation, or install a copy via yum/rpm. This will result in
> either a code conflict, or multiple copies of something on your
> system. Either way things can slowly snowball and go wrong.
>
> The best method for installing perl modules is via package management.
> 3rd party repositories like RPMForge have dozens of perl modules which
> plug right into the centos perl packages and work like a champ. If all
> else fails and you can't find the particular perl module you need via
> one of these repositories, you should use cpan2rpm, or another
> packaging utility to create an rpm suitable for your system.
>
> Using package management features like this gives you reliability (you
> can install the package on multiple machines instead of hoping it
> builds identically on each one), and a 'paper trail' to follow for
> what's on your system (you can query rpm to see where a file is or
> what package owns it instead of guessing) and best of all, you can
> easily remove something without resorting to 'find /somepath -name
> something | xargs rm'  or some other hack.
>
> Let your package manager do the heavy lifting.
>
>
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> revolutionary act.
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