Re: [CentOS] D-Link DFE-580TX

[Bernd Bartmann]

On 8/4/07, Andreas Rogge wrote:
> As of CentOS 4, the sundance driver is in the centosplus kernel.
>
> I've seen strange behaviour with kudzu when using sundance with that
> D-Link adapter (i.e. on every bootup kudzu tells you the NICs were
> removed and that four new NICs were installed). That might be the issue
> why RH decided to disable the driver in their kernel. However, disabling
> kudzu solved the issue.
>
> I use that Adapter in a Firewall-Box at one of my customer's sites and
> we only had one issue in the last two years: one day one of the ports
> suddenly stopped working. However, a reboot solved the issue.

Andreas, you're right we also had the kudzu problem. First I got
eth0-eth3, after reboot eth4-eth7, after reboot again eth0-eth3, ...
For me disabling kudzu also solved the issue. I just forgot about this
fact.

Best regards,
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Re: [CentOS] D-Link DFE-580TX

[Louis Lagendijk]

On Sat, 2007-08-04 at 10:32 +0200, Bernd Bartmann wrote:
> On 8/4/07, Andreas Rogge wrote:
> > As of CentOS 4, the sundance driver is in the centosplus kernel.
> >
> > I've seen strange behaviour with kudzu when using sundance with that
> > D-Link adapter (i.e. on every bootup kudzu tells you the NICs were
> > removed and that four new NICs were installed). That might be the issue
> > why RH decided to disable the driver in their kernel. However, disabling
> > kudzu solved the issue.
> >
this sounds similar to the problems I had with a Sun quad card:
depending on the bios, the system may have problems accessing the option
rom on the card. I solved that setting the mac address in the options
in /etc/modprobe.conf. (this card uses the sunhme driver).

> > I use that Adapter in a Firewall-Box at one of my customer's sites and
> > we only had one issue in the last two years: one day one of the ports
> > suddenly stopped working. However, a reboot solved the issue.
> 
> Andreas, you're right we also had the kudzu problem. First I got
> eth0-eth3, after reboot eth4-eth7, after reboot again eth0-eth3, ...
> For me disabling kudzu also solved the issue. I just forgot about this
> fact.
> 
see above Setting the start mac address solved the issue. The
sundance driver unfortunately does not support that option I
believe.
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Re: [CentOS] Data corruption on external hard disk

[Niki Kovacs]

Daniel de Kok a écrit :

On Sat, 2007-08-04 at 07:09 +0200, Niki Kovacs wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/disk/Films] $ ls -l
total 692996
-rw-r- 1 678756852  34537972 148381783526817280 avr 28 01:01 Cinema
drwxr-xr-x 3 kikinovak kikinovak   4096 mai  9 10:07 Anime
drwxrwxrwx 4 kikinovak kikinovak   4096 mai 10 12:25 Series

Notice that the file size is something like petabytes :oD

Is there any way to repair this obviously corrupt data?


Looks like a broken inode (or incorrect directory entry). I'd make a
backup image of the disk first (if that works without serious errors)
with dd. After that, run a badblocks check, and a fsck.

Argh. Looks like a complete data loss. Well, not complete. Fortunately I 
had most of it on another PC. I just lost all my films. (Gasp! David 
Lynch gone, Hitchcock gone, Cronenberg gone...)


Now I reformatted the HD with ext2, and badblocks is currently chugging 
away for the next few hours probably.


How do broken inodes happen? I'm a bit reluctant - for obvious reasons - 
to entrust data to that disk again. Can it be that overheating creates 
read/write errors, without actually corrupting the disk?


Cheers,

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Re: [CentOS] new CentOS 5 install, 'Network is unreachable'

[Robert Spangler]

On Fri August 3 2007 23:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>  I've a new CentOS 5 minimalist install; this will be the name server
>  from my prior thread.  I have configured eth0 during setup with the
>  static IP the unit will have when in production.  During this setup
>  phase, selinux is set to permissive.
>
>  Setting up on a different network, I did this:
>
>  dhclient eth0 and successfully got a private address; I also validated
>  that the resolv.conf file was created by the dhclient-script and it was,
>  accurately pointing to my gateway and listing a domain name server by IP.
>
>  That's where the fun stops.  Even pinging an IP, so as not to rely on
>  name resolution, I get the dreaded 'Network is unreachable' error.

OK if everything is setup correctly then I would first look to see if the 
firewall, on that system, is blocking  then check the routing to ensure it is 
properly setup.


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[CentOS] problems with sendmail

[Daniel Bruno]

Hi all,

 I have a problem with Sendmail in CentOS 5. I want use authentication for
external access. I configure my sendmail.mc:


TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`EXTERNAL DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN')dnl
define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS', `EXTERNAL GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5
LOGIN PLAIN')dnl


But when send a message, show this message:

Relaying denied. Proper authentication required.

Any idea of the error?

Thanks,

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS things to mod for VMware server

[Jim Perrin]

On 8/3/07, Yiorgos Stamoulis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> XFS allegedly handles large files better than ext3/reiserfs.
>
> and we all know that vmx files can be  . . . . big!
>
> Has anyone run any benchmarks on xfs / ext3 / reiserfs to establish
> which is better suited for holding virtual machines?

The only reason I'd avoid xfs here is for x86 systems. XFS still
doesn't play well with kernels using 4k stacks. This has improved, but
it still can leave you with crashes/corruption. For x86_64 systems the
problem isn't nearly as bad, as this kernel uses 8k stacks, so xfs is
a bit more reliable.

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Re: [CentOS] Re: Can't print PDFs or PSs in CentOS 5.0

[Lanny Marcus]

On 02 August 2007, "Mark Hull-Richter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting
Mark, possibly something there that will help you. Lanny

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Re: [CentOS] problems with sendmail

[Feizhou]

Relaying denied. Proper authentication required.

Any idea of the error?


Logs are very bad. They are always telling and everybody hates tellers.
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[CentOS] CentOS vs RedHat releases

[Scott Ehrlich]

In comparing CentOS to RedHat releases, it seems to me CentOS is the 
Desktop/Workstation class distro from RedHat.   Does the CentOS project 
then not have a Server class distro, or am I missing something?   Granted, 
most any operating system can act as a server, but there are some 
fundamental components of a server-class OS that help is stand out versus 
a workstation version.


Thanks for any insights.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS vs RedHat releases

[Scott Ehrlich]

On Sat, 4 Aug 2007, Scott Ehrlich wrote:

In comparing CentOS to RedHat releases, it seems to me CentOS is the 
Desktop/Workstation class distro from RedHat.   Does the CentOS project then 
not have a Server class distro, or am I missing something?   Granted, most 
any operating system can act as a server, but there are some fundamental 
components of a server-class OS that help is stand out versus a workstation 
version.


Thanks for any insights.

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thought about CentOS instead, but when I realized there was only one 
CentOS distro, figuring it was desktop-oriented, I opted out.   There are 
some elements of RHEL5 server I need.


Thanks again for any clarification.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS vs RedHat releases

[Chris]

On Sat, 4 Aug 2007 10:43:12 -0400 (EDT)
Scott Ehrlich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sat, 4 Aug 2007, Scott Ehrlich wrote:
> 
> > In comparing CentOS to RedHat releases, it seems to me CentOS is
> > the Desktop/Workstation class distro from RedHat.   Does the CentOS
> > project then not have a Server class distro, or am I missing
> > something?   Granted, most any operating system can act as a
> > server, but there are some fundamental components of a server-class
> > OS that help is stand out versus a workstation version.
> >
> > Thanks for any insights.
> >
> > Scott
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> 
> I have been working on installing RHEL5 64-bit Server on a machine,
> and thought about CentOS instead, but when I realized there was only
> one CentOS distro, figuring it was desktop-oriented, I opted out.
> There are some elements of RHEL5 server I need.
> 
> Thanks again for any clarification.
> 
> Scott

With the CentOS 5 DVD, you HAVE the option to install "Server" just
as you do "Workstation" etc.

Though I have not taken the "Server" option, I assume it's LAMP.

That ought to clear things up for you mate.



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Re: [CentOS] CentOS vs RedHat releases

[Marko A. Jennings]

On Sat, August 4, 2007 10:35 am, Scott Ehrlich wrote:
> In comparing CentOS to RedHat releases, it seems to me CentOS is the
> Desktop/Workstation class distro from RedHat.   Does the CentOS project
> then not have a Server class distro, or am I missing something?   Granted,
> most any operating system can act as a server, but there are some
> fundamental components of a server-class OS that help is stand out versus
> a workstation version.
>
> Thanks for any insights.
>
> Scott

Your question is answered in the CentOS FAQ: 
http://www.centos.org/modules/smartfaq/faq.php?faqid=31
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS vs RedHat releases

[Karanbir Singh]

Scott Ehrlich wrote:
In comparing CentOS to RedHat releases, it seems to me CentOS is the 
Desktop/Workstation class distro from RedHat.   Does the CentOS project 
then not have a Server class distro, or am I missing something?   
Granted, most any operating system can act as a server, but there are 
some fundamental components of a server-class OS that help is stand out 
versus a workstation version.


not quite true.

the CentOS-5 distro combines all the various RHEL products into 1 distro, so you 
get Server, Workstation, Client, Virtualisation Cluster, ClusterStorage all 
rolled into 1 distro with options at install time as to what all features you 
would like to install with. And post install the yum package manager to help 
maintain, add, remove and manage packages.


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS vs RedHat releases

[Johnny Hughes]

Scott Ehrlich wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Aug 2007, Scott Ehrlich wrote:
> 
>> In comparing CentOS to RedHat releases, it seems to me CentOS is the
>> Desktop/Workstation class distro from RedHat.   Does the CentOS
>> project then not have a Server class distro, or am I missing
>> something?   Granted, most any operating system can act as a server,
>> but there are some fundamental components of a server-class OS that
>> help is stand out versus a workstation version.
>>
>> Thanks for any insights.
>>
>> Scott
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> Let me clarify -
> 
> I have been working on installing RHEL5 64-bit Server on a machine, and
> thought about CentOS instead, but when I realized there was only one
> CentOS distro, figuring it was desktop-oriented, I opted out.   There
> are some elements of RHEL5 server I need.
> 
> Thanks again for any clarification.

Then you OPTED wrong :D

CentOS has only ONE repo because we are not trying to sell stripped down
versions at reduced price.

Desktop is just a reduced set of packages from server.  They charge
Big$$$ for server, and less$$$ for workstation/Desktop.

CentOS contains everything in both Server and desktop in one repo ...
because we don't charge $$$ for anything.

So, actually, CentOS has all packages in Server and Workstation/Desktop
and you get to pick what you want to install.  You don't have to provide
any Install numbers to unlock any extra repos ... it is just all there
available to you at install time.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS vs RedHat releases

[John R Pierce]

Scott Ehrlich wrote:

On Sat, 4 Aug 2007, Scott Ehrlich wrote:

In comparing CentOS to RedHat releases, it seems to me CentOS is the 
Desktop/Workstation class distro from RedHat.   Does the CentOS 
project then not have a Server class distro, or am I missing 
something?   Granted, most any operating system can act as a server, 
but there are some fundamental components of a server-class OS that 
help is stand out versus a workstation version


I have been working on installing RHEL5 64-bit Server on a machine, 
and thought about CentOS instead, but when I realized there was only 
one CentOS distro, figuring it was desktop-oriented, I opted out.   
There are some elements of RHEL5 server I need.


what 'elements' are those? AFAIK, the only thing in RHEL thats not 
in CentOS are a few binary-only wireless drivers which aren't open 
source and require onerous licensing that the centos group doesn't want 
to deal with.  As others have answered already, CentOS5 has all the 
components of all the RHEL variants and no artifiicial multi-processor 
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Re: [CentOS] Data corruption on external hard disk

[Johnny Hughes]

Niki Kovacs wrote:
> Daniel de Kok a écrit :
>> On Sat, 2007-08-04 at 07:09 +0200, Niki Kovacs wrote:
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/disk/Films] $ ls -l
>>> total 692996
>>> -rw-r- 1 678756852  34537972 148381783526817280 avr 28 01:01 Cinema
>>> drwxr-xr-x 3 kikinovak kikinovak   4096 mai  9 10:07 Anime
>>> drwxrwxrwx 4 kikinovak kikinovak   4096 mai 10 12:25 Series
>>>
>>> Notice that the file size is something like petabytes :oD
>>>
>>> Is there any way to repair this obviously corrupt data?
>>
>> Looks like a broken inode (or incorrect directory entry). I'd make a
>> backup image of the disk first (if that works without serious errors)
>> with dd. After that, run a badblocks check, and a fsck.
>>
> Argh. Looks like a complete data loss. Well, not complete. Fortunately I
> had most of it on another PC. I just lost all my films. (Gasp! David
> Lynch gone, Hitchcock gone, Cronenberg gone...)
> 
> Now I reformatted the HD with ext2, and badblocks is currently chugging
> away for the next few hours probably.
> 
> How do broken inodes happen? I'm a bit reluctant - for obvious reasons -
> to entrust data to that disk again. Can it be that overheating creates
> read/write errors, without actually corrupting the disk?

Normally, unplugging external drives without unmounting them is the
culprit on an external USB device.  Also, just powering off the drive
without unmount it if it is an externally powered drive.  On internally
mounted drives, usually turning off the system without shutting it down,
loss of a power supply and / or loss of power to a live system.

Sometimes a bad driver can cause problems for certain devices.

I would use an ext3 file system as it has a journal ... and journals can
recover data from the journal.

Thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] Asterisk

[Patrick]

On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 20:02 -0700, Kenneth Porter wrote:
> Is an RPM for Asterisk (the PBX system) available for CentOS 5? It looks 
> like RPMforge is supposed to have one, as I can see dependent packages like 
> asterisk-sounds, but the base package seems to be absent from the 
> repository.

There are Asterisk 1.2 (S)RPMs at http://www.laimbock.com/asterisk/
They are not the most recent version but the latest 1.2.23 release will
be available somewhere next week.

Regards,
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[CentOS] Distro clarification thanks

[Scott Ehrlich]

I want to take a moment to thank everyone who responded to my inquiry. 
The education is most appreciated, and well-received.


This is list is wonderful.  Simply lurking, I, along with many others, no 
doubt, pick up so much.


A great support team.

Again, thanks to all.

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[CentOS] Latest Pidgin update problem

[fredex]

A while back I added the pidgin repo to my yum configuration and installed
pidgin. it has automatically updated itself a time or two since without
trouble.

but now that Pidgin 2.1.0 is out, it won't update properly. Yum finds
a couple of libpurple packages to update as well as pidgin-devel, but
not the pidgin package itself:

--> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait.
---> Package libpurple.i386 0:2.1.0-0.el4 set to be updated
---> Package pidgin-devel.i386 0:2.1.0-0.el4 set to be updated
---> Package libpurple-devel.i386 0:2.1.0-0.el4 set to be updated
--> Running transaction check
--> Processing Dependency: pidgin = 2.1.0 for package: pidgin-devel
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: Missing Dependency: pidgin = 2.1.0 is needed by package pidgin-devel

Anybody else seen this? It seems odd that the official pidgin repo
would have 3 of the four necessary packages but not the fourth.

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RE: [CentOS] Data corruption on external hard disk

[Ross S. W. Walker]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johnny Hughes
> Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 11:21 AM
> To: CentOS mailing list
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Data corruption on external hard disk
> 
> Niki Kovacs wrote:
> > Daniel de Kok a écrit :
> >> On Sat, 2007-08-04 at 07:09 +0200, Niki Kovacs wrote:
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/disk/Films] $ ls -l
> >>> total 692996
> >>> -rw-r- 1 678756852  34537972 148381783526817280 avr 
> 28 01:01 Cinema
> >>> drwxr-xr-x 3 kikinovak kikinovak   4096 mai  
> 9 10:07 Anime
> >>> drwxrwxrwx 4 kikinovak kikinovak   4096 mai 
> 10 12:25 Series
> >>>
> >>> Notice that the file size is something like petabytes :oD
> >>>
> >>> Is there any way to repair this obviously corrupt data?
> >>
> >> Looks like a broken inode (or incorrect directory entry). 
> I'd make a
> >> backup image of the disk first (if that works without 
> serious errors)
> >> with dd. After that, run a badblocks check, and a fsck.
> >>
> > Argh. Looks like a complete data loss. Well, not complete. 
> Fortunately I
> > had most of it on another PC. I just lost all my films. (Gasp! David
> > Lynch gone, Hitchcock gone, Cronenberg gone...)
> > 
> > Now I reformatted the HD with ext2, and badblocks is 
> currently chugging
> > away for the next few hours probably.
> > 
> > How do broken inodes happen? I'm a bit reluctant - for 
> obvious reasons -
> > to entrust data to that disk again. Can it be that 
> overheating creates
> > read/write errors, without actually corrupting the disk?
> 
> Normally, unplugging external drives without unmounting them is the
> culprit on an external USB device.  Also, just powering off the drive
> without unmount it if it is an externally powered drive.  On 
> internally
> mounted drives, usually turning off the system without 
> shutting it down,
> loss of a power supply and / or loss of power to a live system.
> 
> Sometimes a bad driver can cause problems for certain devices.
> 
> I would use an ext3 file system as it has a journal ... and 
> journals can
> recover data from the journal.

I would mount all USB drives with the 'sync' or 'dirsync' option,
if they auto-mount via Gnome or KDE then make sure which ever
config file stores the default mount options for auto-mount it
includes the 'sync' or 'dirsync' option for USB devices.

The 'sync' makes sure all io is done synchronously, the 'dirsync'
makes sure that only directory io is done synchronously which
should provide more performance than 'sync', but with less
integrity assurance.

If you need the performance you can umount the auto-mount and
then re-mount it manually without the 'sync' or 'dirsync' options.

Using a file-system that is less prone to corruption (simpler) can
also help, that is why most USB storage devices ship with FAT, that
and that FAT partitions are pretty much universally compatible.

-Ross

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Re: [CentOS] Latest Pidgin update problem

[Johnny Hughes]

fredex wrote:
> A while back I added the pidgin repo to my yum configuration and installed
> pidgin. it has automatically updated itself a time or two since without
> trouble.
> 
> but now that Pidgin 2.1.0 is out, it won't update properly. Yum finds
> a couple of libpurple packages to update as well as pidgin-devel, but
> not the pidgin package itself:
> 
> --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait.
> ---> Package libpurple.i386 0:2.1.0-0.el4 set to be updated
> ---> Package pidgin-devel.i386 0:2.1.0-0.el4 set to be updated
> ---> Package libpurple-devel.i386 0:2.1.0-0.el4 set to be updated
> --> Running transaction check
> --> Processing Dependency: pidgin = 2.1.0 for package: pidgin-devel
> --> Finished Dependency Resolution
> Error: Missing Dependency: pidgin = 2.1.0 is needed by package pidgin-devel
> 
> Anybody else seen this? It seems odd that the official pidgin repo
> would have 3 of the four necessary packages but not the fourth.

Is it possible that the pidgin that you have installed has an epoch > 0.

Also, try:

yum clean all

Then try again, as maybe something is cached in metadata that does not
show the latest pidgin.

Also, if you have priorities (or protectbase) enabled, you will need to
use this in the base and updates repo sections of
/etc/yum.repos.d/CentOS-Base.repo to get things to be updateable by 3rd
Part repos:

exclude=pidgin* libpurple*

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Re: [CentOS] Data corruption on external hard disk

[Niki Kovacs]

Johnny Hughes a écrit :


Normally, unplugging external drives without unmounting them is the
culprit on an external USB device.  Also, just powering off the drive
without unmount it if it is an externally powered drive.  On internally
mounted drives, usually turning off the system without shutting it down,
loss of a power supply and / or loss of power to a live system.

Sometimes a bad driver can cause problems for certain devices.

I would use an ext3 file system as it has a journal ... and journals can
recover data from the journal.

Well, I reformatted the drive (ext2 first) and did a 'badblock -v' on 
it. Looks like half of the disk is damaged, so it's clearly a hardware 
failure. The guy at the store told me that with the actual heat it's not 
a surprise.


Anyway: thanks to anybody for the detailed advice!

Cheers,

Niki Kovacs
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[CentOS] How to replace ntfs by ntfs-3g?

[Olaf Mueller]

Hello,

I can write to an ntfs partion if mounting it by hand with 'mount -t
ntfs-3g /dev/sdf5 /mnt/xp'. But if I use the mount option from the kde
Storage Media panel applet (kdebase-3.5.4-13.6.el5.centos) then the
partion will be mounted without write support. So how to say kde and
CentOS to use ntfs-3g and not ntfs? Maybe by changing some links?
Thank you very much.


regards
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Re: [CentOS] How to replace ntfs by ntfs-3g?

[Ralph Angenendt]

Olaf Mueller wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I can write to an ntfs partion if mounting it by hand with 'mount -t
> ntfs-3g /dev/sdf5 /mnt/xp'. But if I use the mount option from the kde
> Storage Media panel applet (kdebase-3.5.4-13.6.el5.centos) then the
> partion will be mounted without write support. So how to say kde and
> CentOS to use ntfs-3g and not ntfs? Maybe by changing some links?

Does  (written by
Akemi Yagi) help you?

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] Re: Can't print PDFs or PSs in CentOS 5.0 - SOLVED

[Mark Hull-Richter]

Thanks for all the input - the HPLJ4 driver "supplied by" Minolta (with
CentOS 5) solved my problem.

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[CentOS] Re: Asterisk

[Axel Thimm]

On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 08:02:38PM -0700, Kenneth Porter wrote:
> Is an RPM for Asterisk (the PBX system) available for CentOS 5? It looks 
> like RPMforge is supposed to have one, as I can see dependent packages like 
> asterisk-sounds, but the base package seems to be absent from the 
> repository.

There are packages for asterisk at ATrpms, which if you like can be
considered an unofficial member of rpmforge. ;)
-- 
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Re: [CentOS] Latest Pidgin update problem

[fredex]

On Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 11:57:55AM -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> fredex wrote:
> > A while back I added the pidgin repo to my yum configuration and installed
> > pidgin. it has automatically updated itself a time or two since without
> > trouble.
> > 
> > but now that Pidgin 2.1.0 is out, it won't update properly. Yum finds
> > a couple of libpurple packages to update as well as pidgin-devel, but
> > not the pidgin package itself:
> > 
> > --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait.
> > ---> Package libpurple.i386 0:2.1.0-0.el4 set to be updated
> > ---> Package pidgin-devel.i386 0:2.1.0-0.el4 set to be updated
> > ---> Package libpurple-devel.i386 0:2.1.0-0.el4 set to be updated
> > --> Running transaction check
> > --> Processing Dependency: pidgin = 2.1.0 for package: pidgin-devel
> > --> Finished Dependency Resolution
> > Error: Missing Dependency: pidgin = 2.1.0 is needed by package pidgin-devel
> > 
> > Anybody else seen this? It seems odd that the official pidgin repo
> > would have 3 of the four necessary packages but not the fourth.
> 
> Is it possible that the pidgin that you have installed has an epoch > 0.
> 
> Also, try:
> 
> yum clean all
> 
> Then try again, as maybe something is cached in metadata that does not
> show the latest pidgin.
> 
> Also, if you have priorities (or protectbase) enabled, you will need to
> use this in the base and updates repo sections of
> /etc/yum.repos.d/CentOS-Base.repo to get things to be updateable by 3rd
> Part repos:
> 
> exclude=pidgin* libpurple*
> 

Thanks, Johnny!  The exclude=... statement did the trick. I find it
curious that I haven't needed it before this.


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Re: [CentOS] KStars on CentOS 4.4?

[Lanny Marcus]

On 03 August 2007, "Lamar Owen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> currently use KDE-RedHat with several CentOS 4 installs, to get KStars
> for us to do telescope control.
> The KDE in CentOS 4 is quite old, and kstars has improved by leaps and
> bounds since then.

Lamar: I found a very easy way to do it. I found that for CentOS 4.4, I
could install the kdeedu RPM, from the Fedora Core 3 Install DVD,
without any problem. And for CentOS 5.0, I installed kdeedu from the FC6
install DVD. That installed a lot of other stuff too Thank you for
posting! KStars is both powerful and elegant. I am going to put FC7 on
my daughters box and let my wife try the latest KStars there. Lanny

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Re: [CentOS] How to replace ntfs by ntfs-3g?

[Olaf Mueller]

Ralph Angenendt wrote:

Hello Ralph,

> Olaf Mueller wrote:
>> I can write to an ntfs partion if mounting it by hand with 'mount -t
>> ntfs-3g /dev/sdf5 /mnt/xp'. But if I use the mount option from the
>> kde Storage Media panel applet (kdebase-3.5.4-13.6.el5.centos) then
>> the partion will be mounted without write support. So how to say kde
>> and CentOS to use ntfs-3g and not ntfs? Maybe by changing some
>> links?
> Does  (written
> by Akemi Yagi) help you?
I'm afraid not. I can mount ntfs with write enabled by the console
command above. But kde (Storage Media panel applet) always mounts the
partion with ntfs module and never uses ntfs-3g. I think it's an kde
problem but I don't know how to solve this. If I remove the ntfs
module then kde still ignores ntfs-3g and doesn't mount the partition
with an "unknown file system" error any more.


regards
Olaf

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[CentOS] CentOS vs RedHat packages

[Scott Ehrlich]

Hello Once Again:

Another learning experience question - it is my understanding that CentOS 
essentially IS RedHat but with any commercial connection removed.   That 
being said, is there any difference in the included, or quality of 
packages between the two distros?


I've got some basic issues with a critical server I'm about to set up, and 
if I cannot get beyond said issues, I may opt to try CentOS.  Seeing that 
CentOS is free (can't call RedHat for support), I'm wondering if I should 
try and make the case for CentOS over RedHat.  Once the choice is made, it 
may be next to impossible to revert to the other version (RH vs CentOS).


Thanks for your insights.

Scott
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS vs RedHat packages

[Daniel de Kok]

On Sat, 2007-08-04 at 16:31 -0400, Scott Ehrlich wrote:
> Another learning experience question - it is my understanding that CentOS 
> essentially IS RedHat but with any commercial connection removed.   That 
> being said, is there any difference in the included, or quality of 
> packages between the two distros?
> 
> I've got some basic issues with a critical server I'm about to set up, and 
> if I cannot get beyond said issues, I may opt to try CentOS.  Seeing that 
> CentOS is free (can't call RedHat for support), I'm wondering if I should 
> try and make the case for CentOS over RedHat.  Once the choice is made, it 
> may be next to impossible to revert to the other version (RH vs CentOS).

CentOS aims to be 100% binary compatible with the upstream product.
Additional or changed packages are included in the extras or plus
repositories. E.g. CentOS plus provides a modified kernel with more
options enabled, and extras the heartbeat clustering software.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS vs RedHat packages

[Shawn Everett]

> I've got some basic issues with a critical server I'm about to set up,
> and if I cannot get beyond said issues, I may opt to try CentOS.  Seeing
> that CentOS is free (can't call RedHat for support), I'm wondering if I
> should try and make the case for CentOS over RedHat.  Once the choice is
> made, it may be next to impossible to revert to the other version (RH vs
> CentOS).
>

Hi Scott,

If you explain the "basic issues" you are having we might be able to help 
you out.

I have installed Oracle 10g and Veritas Netbackup on CentOS servers with no 
problem at all.  I've been 100% happy with how things have worked.

If this really is a critical server, I would suggest going with the vendor 
supported distribution.  Running an (untested to you) distribution that 
you are not completely familiar with (on a critical server) is a recipe 
for disaster.

Shawn
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS vs RedHat packages

[Scott Ehrlich]

On Sat, 4 Aug 2007, Shawn Everett wrote:


I've got some basic issues with a critical server I'm about to set up,
and if I cannot get beyond said issues, I may opt to try CentOS.  Seeing
that CentOS is free (can't call RedHat for support), I'm wondering if I
should try and make the case for CentOS over RedHat.  Once the choice is
made, it may be next to impossible to revert to the other version (RH vs
CentOS).



Hi Scott,

If you explain the "basic issues" you are having we might be able to help
you out.

I have installed Oracle 10g and Veritas Netbackup on CentOS servers with no
problem at all.  I've been 100% happy with how things have worked.

If this really is a critical server, I would suggest going with the vendor
supported distribution.  Running an (untested to you) distribution that
you are not completely familiar with (on a critical server) is a recipe
for disaster.


The basic issue I have encountered is, after freshly installing RHEL5 
64-bit Server on a Dell Poweredge 2950, everything is fine.  After logging 
in for the first time, I configure services as I want via 
system-config-services. But after doing so, and rebooting, at first the 
filesystem claims there is a system error and prompts for the root 
password for a fsck, or control-D to reboot.


I opt to reboot, and the system then complains of python errors, but there 
are no more system errors.  But, when I revisit system-config-services, I 
immediately experience python errors.


To try and potentially help resolve this problem, I recently updated the 
BIOS and some of the firmware.   I then performed a fresh install again.
I then downloaded RH's Enterprise 5 Supplement ISO, along with Dell's 
OpenManage ISOs for Enterprise 5.   I'm hoping something among this back 
of changes will help solve the python configuration problem.


If not, I may opt to see how well CentOS 5 handles things.

I'm mostly interested in the PostgreSql and Java pieces.

If it comes down to it, I could always place a trouble call with Dell and 
RedHat and see if either of them has a helpful solution.


Anyone on the list experience the same kind of problem, and find an 
answer?  If so, what was it?


The server is not connected to the Internet, and likely never will be - 
strictly out-of-box CDs.


Thanks for any insights.

Scott



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Re: [CentOS] How to replace ntfs by ntfs-3g?

[Akemi Yagi]

On 8/4/07, Olaf Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ralph Angenendt wrote:
>
> Hello Ralph,
>
> > Olaf Mueller wrote:
> >> I can write to an ntfs partion if mounting it by hand with 'mount -t
> >> ntfs-3g /dev/sdf5 /mnt/xp'. But if I use the mount option from the
> >> kde Storage Media panel applet (kdebase-3.5.4-13.6.el5.centos) then
> >> the partion will be mounted without write support. So how to say kde
> >> and CentOS to use ntfs-3g and not ntfs? Maybe by changing some
> >> links?
> > Does  (written
> > by Akemi Yagi) help you?
> I'm afraid not. I can mount ntfs with write enabled by the console
> command above. But kde (Storage Media panel applet) always mounts the
> partion with ntfs module and never uses ntfs-3g. I think it's an kde
> problem but I don't know how to solve this. If I remove the ntfs
> module then kde still ignores ntfs-3g and doesn't mount the partition
> with an "unknown file system" error any more.
>
> regards
> Olaf

This is apparently a kde problem and you may have better luck on their
mailing list.  I've found this in the kde bug tracker:

http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139587

but I do not see a fix for the problem.

Akemi
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS vs RedHat packages

[Shawn Everett]

> Anyone on the list experience the same kind of problem, and find an
> answer?  If so, what was it?
>

A couple of follow up questions:
- How much disk space is on the server and how is it partitioned?  How many 
logical disks in the RAID controller (if any) are made?

- Have you noticed any programs mysteriously stop working after the reboot?

Personally I never use the system-config-* scripts.  I do 90% of the 
configuration by hand.  That's a throwback to my Slackware days and that 
way I know things work.

Shawn
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS vs RedHat packages

[Scott Ehrlich]

On Sat, 4 Aug 2007, Shawn Everett wrote:


Anyone on the list experience the same kind of problem, and find an
answer?  If so, what was it?



A couple of follow up questions:
- How much disk space is on the server and how is it partitioned?  How many
logical disks in the RAID controller (if any) are made?


About 200 GB total, using RH's default layout.   More than emough.   One 
logical disk on the RAID.




- Have you noticed any programs mysteriously stop working after the reboot?

Personally I never use the system-config-* scripts.  I do 90% of the
configuration by hand.  That's a throwback to my Slackware days and that
way I know things work.



I would have no problems doing it by hand, too, but when I use a 
system-supplied option, I expect it to work, particularly out-of-the-box, 
and this simple tool breaks right after it is put to use.   Makes me 
wonder why, and what else might be breaking.


Scott


Shawn
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